Emergency Press Conference: Danielle Bernstein (Ms. What) Ends Engagement

18:35Danielle Bernstein:I mean, yeah, I can imagine why the sister and sister-in-law would not like her, because everything about her is so disingenuous. from her brands to the clothing that she makes because it's literally copied from Black, Indigenous people of color. Her engagement party speech, like you just mentioned, was fully plagiarized from a TikTok creator. And that's something else that people were bringing up. If your love was, in fact, so pure and so true, why did you need to copy and paste someone else's speech to describe your feelings for your husband, fiance?

19:05Snark Bait Hosts:It was verbatim. Like, it's actually so creepy. If you guys don't know what we're talking about, we definitely posted it on our Instagram. I will re-bubble it back up so you guys can see what we're talking about if you don't remember. But crazy. And it's so true. It's like, if your love was genuine and real, Maddie Pruitt, why would you have to plagiarize a random... And that was also a wedding speech. This was just a fucking engagement party.

19:33Danielle Bernstein:Yeah. And speaking of some of the allegations leading up to the dissolution of this engagement, so people were also saying that Danielle allegedly disallowed his parents from inviting their friends to their wedding. So she was super controlling over the guest list. And part of me is thinking, okay, based on what I've read about Mini Coop, it sounds like he comes from a pretty nice, wealthy suburb of New Jersey. So it probably like his parents come from some wealth, but I can imagine Danielle being so much of a control freak as she is, having and desiring full control over everything wedding related.

20:07Danielle Bernstein:So even if there's one guest that is not DB approved, she would probably ax it. And I'd be willing to guess, too, she would want to fund it herself just so she has that creative control. I have no idea. This is true. This is just my speculation.

20:20Snark Bait Hosts:Well, remember the engagement party invitation with the dress code? Oh, my God. And the affiliate links. Yeah, yeah. So I think that she was so obsessed with everyone matching the aesthetic. She said, I want you guys to dress old money. So for men, that means black jeans, maybe? Yeah, she said black jeans, yes. because black jeans just the definition of old money.

20:43Danielle Bernstein:I mean, she would know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, agreed. She needed full creative control to the point that she not only wanted her guests to dress up in black tie, but she wanted you to shop her affiliate link so she could receive affiliate commission off of her engagement party. She, I guess, continued to call the apartment that she shared with Mini Coop her apartment. She never referred to the apartment as their apartment, which to some extent I do understand And if it is her apartment, then it is her apartment. Like she bought it. Yes. There were some allegations that allegedly the straw that broke the camel's back was a bit of a Karamo and his mom in the hot mic moment where Karamo's mother heard the queer-eyed guys talking shit about her son.

21:23Danielle Bernstein:Something similar, I guess, happened at the engagement party whereby they were looking at B-roll footage of the engagement party. And Mini Coop was caught on hot mic talking about how fake Danielle Bernstein was. And she caught wind of that post-party.

21:38Snark Bait Hosts:That is so crazy. Okay, so I saw this too. And again, who knows the veracity of this? These were like multiple different people on Reddit who claim to be inside sources, but obviously take it with a grain of salt. But like, it sounded real. Like, imagine you are like editing videos from your engagement party. Obviously, you know, the bride and the groom are mic'd up because they gave speeches or whatever it is. And to hear your fiance talking shit about you, it's got to sting. Yeah. It's got to sting. Also, like, I don't know. It's sad. Like, I know that we shouldn't feel bad for her. I'm an empath.

22:22But like, I hate when people say that,

22:25Snark Bait Hosts:by the way. I'm kidding. But like, I do feel a little bit bad for her because it's like your own fiancé is talking shit about you at your engagement party.

22:35Danielle Bernstein:Not only do you have to hear it from the entire internet and Reddit pages, but now your own fiancé is saying this shit.

22:40Snark Bait Hosts:Exactly. It's like everyone on the internet talks shit about you all the time for various reasons, whether it's deserved or undeserved. Obviously, she deserves a lot of flack she gets. I think, you know, people are extra vicious when it comes to her. Not that I—am I being too nice? No, no, no.

22:58Danielle Bernstein:I mean, I do think people are specifically very intense when it comes to Danielle Bernstein. She has a cult hate following. I think that most influencers do not. But I think it's deservedly so is not the right word. But you understand why there is so much vitriolic hate towards her because of the way that she is. You can't help but look away because it's such a train wreck. But she is so blissfully almost unaware because she is so narcissistic that she can't see past her own bullshit. Right, right. Perfect way to put it.

23:31Snark Bait Hosts:So the other straw, potential straw that broke the camel's back was the prenup, allegedly. A lot of whispers that they could not agree to terms on a prenup. And apparently he may have wanted like a cut of her social media money if he was going to be featured because obviously, you know, a wedding is going to get a lot of engagement. It's going to bring in a lot of money for her. He should get a cut. I don't know the actual terms or if that actually was the aspect of the prenup that was not agreed on. What I think is interesting is that people can't decide if Mini Coop is a fame whore clout chaser wannabe sugar baby that was using her for money or he's the victim in all of this.

24:17Snark Bait Hosts:I think it's I don't get the vibe that he cares about being famous that much because his Instagram was private and he clearly didn't like being in her content that much. I don't know if you saw her most recent story that he was featured in. I can't remember him being featured after this happened. It was a couple of weeks ago. She posted an Instagram story where she was talking to the camera from their temporary apartment because of the renovations happening at their quote unquote forever home. Or her home. Yeah. Her home. But there was a point when she was saying our place. There was. I swear to God.

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31:09Snark Bait Hosts:Anyway, she posted an Instagram story from their temporary apartment explaining, you know, guys, we're in our temporary apartment. and blah, blah, blah. And he goes, who are you talking to? And she goes, the internet, honey. And then he goes, did you just... And he goes, did you just film me? Oh! And it was like so mean. It was crazy that she even posted it, but it like made me feel bad for her that he was talking to her like that. He clearly, moral of the story, did not seem that interested in being on her social media. so I don't know how true it is that he was like using her for fame or for clout or for money

31:50Danielle Bernstein:I I don't know it's hard to back those rumors up when you see how he was on social is what you're saying I I don't know her content well enough to be honest I don't I don't follow her I just see what I see on the reddit snark pages but I do want to double click into the prenup issues because there were allegations that he potentially wanted to split some of the earnings that she would receive from the wedding content the engagement party the wedding all the photos he's like listen you're getting paid by these from these brand deals give me a cut and i actually low-key do understand this from his perspective without minicute there would be no content for her to monetize to begin with now does it mean that they should split it 50 50 probably not to me but i do think that this is a partnership this is a marriage what's mine is yours depending on which state you're in.

32:37Danielle Bernstein:But I do think that it is fair for her to portion some of the funds that she earns to him. How much is appropriate, that is up to them. But if she were to tell him, sorry, like, I'm the one who's editing these videos. I'm the one that's curating these photographers and videographers. I'm helping edit. You don't get a cut. I do think that's a little unfair, but I don't think he's deserving of 50-50 if that's what he was asking for. What are your thoughts on him desiring to potentially split the commissions?

33:03Snark Bait Hosts:I don't think it's totally unfair. And again, like this is purely speculative. We don't know if this is actually what they were arguing about. If he was trying to get 50-50 of her social media money, I don't think that's a fair amount. But for him to ask for a cut of, you know, their wedding earnings because she's going to earn a lot of money from the engagement and all of the money from the wedding content. Yeah, because there would be none of that without him. Maybe he felt like he was just being plugged in, like it could have been any guy. And he was like, this is just, you know, for content.

33:44Danielle Bernstein:Yes. He probably at some point, because I could imagine anyone who is a part of her content, does almost feel like a propter. Trust me, there are people that I know that are like this, that will do anything or purchase anything or go on a trip literally exclusively for the social media. I think it's not even unfair for people to take these types. I mean, that's work at the end of the day. But I think for her, it's particularly intense. Yeah. She will do anything for whatever she posts on her Instagram and you lose touch with what the difference is between reality versus social.

34:16Snark Bait Hosts:There's also a world where like maybe part of the prenup was you can never post our kids on social media. And she didn't want to agree to that. It's like we don't know exactly what it was in the prenup that they couldn't agree on. Yeah. It does sound like the prenup was an issue. It's just the specifics of that. I don't know. I think there's a world where like, maybe they both suck. Like, I don't think he's the victim. I don't think he's like a gold digger either. I think they just, they both were just not right for each other. And it's good they realized that before the wedding. I think if Danielle was the one to end it, I personally don't think she was.

34:55Snark Bait Hosts:I think she would have gone forth with the wedding no matter what. In my opinion, I think that her calling off the wedding after this massive engagement party is really embarrassing. Yes. If she was the person to call it off, I have so much respect for her because I know how hard of a decision that must have been. I just, I can't even imagine. I personally, if I had to guess, I would think that he walked away. But, you know, obviously her statement, And she was like, it was mutual. It's love intersect. But that's what they're always going to say, you know. What do you think?

35:26Danielle Bernstein:And every publication is saying Danielle Bernstein called off the engagement, not Danielle Bernstein's engagement is called off.

35:32Snark Bait Hosts:Also asking for privacy, but then like immediately calling Page Six and like People Magazine and Us Weekly.

35:38Danielle Bernstein:Yeah. No, I mean, that's just her whole brand. It surprises me. Not one iota. But I don't know. I do think that for her, and I think honestly, I'm not even trying to shame her at all. There are a lot of people that will go through it with marriages knowing full damn well it is not the right decision, but just to go through the motions of taking that next step. And for her, not only is she so consumed by what people think and that she has this perfect life and this perfect house and this perfect husband and this perfect marriage and this perfect wedding, perfect engagement party, she wouldn't have given that up, I don't think, if it weren't up to her to have made that.

36:13Danielle Bernstein:Like, I don't think she made that decision. Like, genuinely. And I think ultimately we'll never know. people have said something similar about, although I think this is less stakes, Kristen Cavallari and Mark Estes. Kristen Cavallari made it seem like she was the one who decided to call off the relationship. And I remember watching a podcast episode that she had done with him weeks before they had publicly broken up. And she was begging him to have babies and marriage. And you could tell he was really uncomfortable. And then I found it interesting that a couple weeks after the fact, Kristen was like, you know, me and Mark, we've decided to end the relationship.

36:46Danielle Bernstein:And I think he's a great guy. He's such a great guy. But, like, genuinely, we are not for each other. We're at different points in our lives. And isn't this so funny?

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37:00Danielle Bernstein:No, and, like, the thing is, the way I do Kristen Cavallari is how I do you two. Like, I have the Sophie man voice. No, no, but Kristen sounds like her. That's the difference. You know what's crazy is I think I do Dorit pretty good, too. I've been doing Dorit lately of me and PK. when we go to Florida,

37:18Snark Bait Hosts:the kids want to see my grandparents. That's a really good job, too. I'm very impressed. But PK, he just shows up when he wants to.

37:26Danielle Bernstein:He goes to London, to LA. No, it's pretty good, huh?

37:30Snark Bait Hosts:Wait, I love how you're like, I've been doing Dorit a lot. In what context? Because it's not like you're doing it on the podcast. Where are you doing this? Just in your everyday life with your coworkers?

37:42Danielle Bernstein:In my everyday life. Lucy, you ready for that minute? I'll be there in a second. TK. TK. I like, Beverly Hills is so fucking horrible this season, guys. But I can't help it. I love Beverly Hills so much. Because she's so blissfully unaware and kind of dumb. It's so interesting to watch. But okay, sorry. Getting us a little off track. But Kristen Cavallari. Mark Astis. Okay, I don't even know where we were. She's a liar.

38:13Snark Bait Hosts:Kristen implied that she was the one who broke it off. Or outright said she was the one that broke it off. Yeah, she did. And reality is that she wouldn't walk away from that relationship. Kind of similarly to how we feel probably about Danielle and Mini Coop. Even though, you know, if she was the one to pull the plug herself, amazing. And by the way, all of these articles, there's no real, like, reason given. The prenup is mentioned, but there's no like tea really in these articles. So it's all on read. Yeah.

38:47Danielle Bernstein:Just, you know, all. Yeah, exactly. But I don't know.

38:53Snark Bait Hosts:I just I really think you'd have to pry her bridal area out of her cold, dead hands. Yes. A hundred percent.

39:01Danielle Bernstein:I have no doubt that he ended it because of that exact reason. She is far too narcissistic and cognizant of what the public thinks about her. She would never do this on her own volition. I heard some tea on Reddit from user east-friendship-5886. Just looked up Coop's apartment that he was renting before moving in with DB. It has not been relisted since he signed the lease in 2019. I'm assuming he kept his place this whole time. And someone goes, how do you know where he lives? This group never ceases to shock me. And someone goes, because I used to see him. So people were saying, I've read also theories that he's been living in hotels, why they've been taking time apart, but maybe he's never not had his apartment to begin with.

39:42Danielle Bernstein:Who's to say? I mean, just some random tea. Who's to say? This is all Reddit speculation.

39:47Snark Bait Hosts:Because she made it very clear that he moved in with her. Oh, did she? Okay. Yeah, she made it very clear that they were living together. She did like one of those things. It's like, yeah, he-he, we've been living. She did like a Q &A and someone was like, are you and your boyfriend living together? And she goes, he-he, yeah, I just didn't announce it. But yeah, he has been for a while. Like, they moved in together after less than a year. By the way, they got engaged after less than two years together. Depending on who you ask, you could say that is quick. I mean, completely depends who you ask.

40:16Snark Bait Hosts:She is a woman in her 30s. He's younger than her, too.

40:20Danielle Bernstein:I think he's 31. He's younger.

40:21Snark Bait Hosts:He is three years younger. I believe their age difference. I think she's 33 and he is 30, I think. Yeah, I read 30 and 31. Regardless. Same shit. Regardless. But so who knows what if he kept his apartment the whole time? I'd be surprised by that because he would have to be paying two rents. But it seems like he comes from some money. Maybe. If I had to guess, he was probably living with some roommates and they gave his room to another person. So they didn't relist it. Like a sublease situation. Yeah. Like who freaking knows? But she definitely made it clear they were living together. And then with this temporary apartment thing, because their forever home was getting renovated, that video that I referenced where he was mean to her in the background about filming him, they seem to have moved into that temporary apartment together.

41:21Snark Bait Hosts:But apparently, yeah, he's been living in hotels and wasn't living there for very long with her.

41:26Danielle Bernstein:yeah i am so curious what was the like breaking point because there were no thanksgiving posts of them together no hanukkah posts no new year's eve mention of him like he was not with her during these huge events so like we always say about celebrity breakups too whenever you hear that a couple has broken up more likely than not they've been separated or divorced for at least like eight weeks at this point like minimum so who's to say this could be old news but she's just releasing this now. I have no idea.

41:57Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah. And I mean, the fact that that was a huge red flag for me on New Year's, by the way. And I think I may have mentioned this on the podcast. Yeah. I was like the fact that she didn't post a making out video and then also say 2026 best year yet. He he with like a ring emoji. Oh, she said that.

42:14Danielle Bernstein:She's so disingenuous, dude.

42:16Snark Bait Hosts:No, no, no, no. She didn't. She didn't say that. That's what I'm saying. The fact that she didn't say that was a red flag because any other year she would post a making out video with her boyfriend and especially getting married, she'd say, best year yet. He he.

42:32Danielle Bernstein:She's like so triggering to me because I can see right through her. I genuinely think she suffers from histrionic personality disorder. And if you guys aren't familiar with what this is, it's a mental health condition marked by excessive emotionality and attention seeking where individuals constantly need to be the center of attention, use dramatic and seductive behaviors, have rapidly shifting emotions, and often perceive relationships as more intimate than they are. They said that there's a lot of you're uncomfortable when you're not the center of attention. You act dramatically or provocatively to secure focus from people.

43:04Danielle Bernstein:You're rapidly shifting. You're shallow, exaggerated emotions, believing relationships are more intimate than they are, using physical appearance to draw attention to oneself, easily influenced by others or circumstances, impulsive, dramatic speech that lacks detail. She's so dramatic and theatrical, and she's so concerned between of what people think. It's like, again, the lines are blurred between reality and fantasy.

43:28Snark Bait Hosts:And that's, and not to like diagnose her. This is just behavior that's been observed from her, what feels like, honestly, like 15 years on the internet. 15 years as a public figure on the internet. But yeah, I think that, you know, the, if I had to guess what pushed Tony, her ex-boyfriend away, was this obsession with presenting herself a certain way on social media when she's not that way in real life. Everything is a facade with her. And it goes beyond just the photoshopping, I think. The photoshopping is just scratching the surface, you know?

44:05Danielle Bernstein:We're just getting started when we talk about that. I mean, that speaks to a large, and large. Something wrong.

44:10Snark Bait Hosts:And everything is like performative. And I think this probably goes, you have to be the right kind of person to sign up for a life with any Instagram or TikTok influencer. Like always having the phone out, not really living in the moment. But like that, some people are okay with that lifestyle. Some people know what they're signing up for. They understand it. They like it. They enjoy it. But it takes, I think, a very specific person. It's not just Danielle, it's all of these influencers. It's like it's so hard to live in the moment when, you know, everything has to be content for your job. It's like, yeah, does being an influencer sound amazing sometimes because you can just post on social media and make millions of dollars a year?

44:50Snark Bait Hosts:Of course. At the same time, you never get to really turn it off. You always have to be on. Yeah.

44:57Danielle Bernstein:Yeah. No, I agree. I don't envy. It's really hard to be an influencer. And I think that in Minnie Coop's case, it's all glitz and it's all glam until you realize like what your day-to-day will actually look like. And just from how she presents herself online, I can't imagine being around that day in and day out. It's just exhausting because like not only is your significant other super veneered and glossy and perceiving something that's not true, it's like you almost have to live that life too. And it just seems very, very disingenuous and sad.

45:29Snark Bait Hosts:yeah and that's why i think maybe like after they got engaged the veneer you know fell apart also the engagement party like maybe he was like yeah this is all fun and games until he saw what this would actually entail and the engagement party was so over the top the amount of content like i said an outfit change getting ready photos videographer like content creator plus photographer like there was just so much it was literally a wedding and this was just the engagement party yeah right like he probably he probably did have if i had to guess a moment where he looked around and he was like i cannot believe this is going to be my life like also it's just so much and i'm

46:10Danielle Bernstein:curious how far along they were into wedding planning as well because were their vendors

46:16Snark Bait Hosts:secure were their locations secure again i don't follow oh apparently apparently uh they did have a venue for next summer. The venue, or in June, I believe. And it was, what's it called? Cedar Woods Estate. Okay. Which actually surprised me because it's kind of like woodsy. It's like, I just didn't picture that for her. But, or Cedar Lakes.

46:40Danielle Bernstein:I think it's Cedar Lakes Estate. I think that's what it's called. I'm thinking of like Tom Schwartz and Katie Maloney when you say woodsy.

46:45Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah. Yeah. It literally was, it gives like Schwartz and Katie, honestly, it's outdoorsy, woodsy kind of like camp, summer camp vibes. Cedar Lakes Estate, I think that's what it's called. And they apparently posted, guys, this never happens. We have a June date open suddenly. And people put two and two together that that was her venue. And someone else posted on Reddit that they shared a wedding vendor and the vendor said that their wedding was delayed. For so long, people were like, the wedding is just delayed. And I'm like, well, if the wedding is delayed, it might as well be called off. Because what do you mean the wedding?

47:18Snark Bait Hosts:What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean he wasn't a makeup artist? What do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean the wedding is delayed? Obviously, it's not. Like I said, she made it very clear in her statement that it's not delayed. It's over. The fact that she said it's simply not the right forever. Like that actually made me really sad. And I know we shouldn't feel bad for her for a lot of reasons. But I don't feel sad. I think it's human to feel bad for because this is like such a, you know, that's such a big life thing. thing to call off an engagement and like to think it was her forever and you know to be engaged and to start planning your life together and then it's just like you realize it's not your right forever whatever the reason is that they broke up it's it's sad that sounded so mean it's not that i

48:06Danielle Bernstein:don't feel badly for her it's just that show us some realness and maybe i'll make you oh i'll see you as like a human she just is so veneered it feels almost fake like she's ai generated it's like, oh, my God.

48:17Snark Bait Hosts:I was just going to say, sorry, sorry, sorry. I just thought of one thing that I needed to mention before I forget the fact that she got her eye surgery. Oh, she got an upper bluff. She got a lower bluff for her under eye bags. And she called like she called it a skin pinch, a skin pinch and like a lower bluff. And I was like, there's no way this was early January. I think it was in January. There's no way anyone would get plastic surgery on their face, like, even six months out from their wedding, I feel like,

48:50Danielle Bernstein:it's very risky. It's so risky. Yeah, that's a good point. So, like, maybe even at that point during the surgery, she knew already that it was going to be called off. Yeah. A hundred percent. When she was getting the surgery, I was like, there's no way they're still getting married. Yeah. Good point. Anything else on here? I feel like we covered the biggest parts. Yeah. The story is developing. Hopefully, maybe we'll learn more. So, So perhaps by next week's DET, we'll have more. But again, tomorrow's episode. Yes. Or excuse me, Tuesday's episode, depending on when you're listening, will not include this because we had recorded it before.

49:24Danielle Bernstein:But obviously, Sophie and I had to jump on the mic because I don't think, Sophie, we've ever received so many DMs on Instagram. No. Genuinely.

49:29Snark Bait Hosts:No, never.

49:30Danielle Bernstein:At snarkbaitpod, which also, by the way, a shout out to a baby snark who found me on TikTok. She found my Colton Underwood, Michael Rappaport TikTok, and she's like, oh my God, Christy from Snarkbait. I had no idea what you looked like until then. how are people out here following our podcast and not knowing what we look like? Isn't that crazy to you? I mean, like, there are plenty of podcasts where, like, yes, I do. I've seen those comments.

49:50Snark Bait Hosts:I've seen those comments before where it's like, oh, my God, I had no idea what you looked like. People thought I was blonde.

49:55Danielle Bernstein:Yeah, I think people just have this perception of, like, what we look like. Head on over to Snarkbait Pod on Instagram and you guys can see all of our videos. Our social manager, Rachel, does a really fabulous job and our video editor, Karthik, do a really good job. But, like, go on over there because if you guys think this is fun, our Instagram makes me cackle like it's so funny we have so much shit so it's a developing story obviously if we want to say anything ad hoc we'll post it over there or on tiktok at snarkbait pod same thing but

50:22Snark Bait Hosts:i mean yeah thank you guys for being here and thank you for your patience i know like we said it's going to be a little bit of a change with christy holding down the fort with different hosts this week but again i appreciate being allowed the time to spend with my family And yeah, thank you guys for your patience. I'll be back per usual, regularly scheduled programming next week. But I just know Olivia and Rachel and Shannon killed it alongside Christy, so cannot wait to listen alongside you guys.

51:00Danielle Bernstein:yeah yeah yeah shannon from flintly forward will be on the patreon this week patreon.com slash snarkbait pod bonus content tuesday thursday episodes ad free sub stack.com slash at snarkbait pod youtube.com slash at snarkbait pod at snarkbait pod on ig and

51:15Snark Bait Hosts:everywhere else so if i'm snarkbait pod snarkbait pod snarkbait pod yeah we're everywhere you guys

51:20Danielle Bernstein:so thank you guys so much and we'll see you tuesday for another episode of dark energy you Tuesday. Bye. Bye.

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