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35:26He released his first record in 2014 and played at the Electric Zoo Festival that year. in 2015 he signed a record deal with island universal records and yeah that's about it didn't even know that loser actual record record label fucking loser okay so let's talk about his relationship with violetta violetta and ansel were high school sweethearts they started dating in 2012 and ultimately split in 2022 i believe when they started dating he was 18 and she was 16 which in another thing in retrospect it's like okay is that kind of weird maybe but like they're in high school so it's like yeah yeah it's like they're in high school teenagers um she is a professional ballerina and also danced for one of his music videos i mean he had a music video yeah he did question mark question mark and i cannot tell you how much they were goals in their heyday i was obsessed with their relationship even though i was not like a fan of his acting career i like barely cared about him i cared about like that i was like invested in their relationship like I thought they were so cute and from this era I remember this is like my personal recollection they lived in I think like a gorgeous brownstone in Brooklyn together and I was like goals they were always in the Hamptons like rollerblading and being cute and like his sister Sophie Elgort who's a photographer was always taking like really dreamy like film photos of them he was obsessed with her and would constantly do interviews hinting about how much he respected her craft ballet and how sexy it was he would always comment like very sexual i remember that on her photos yes and this is like okay so i this buzzfeed article is so funny because this was like so buzzfeed and i think this was 2017 when they published this i'm starting to think ansel elgort is really fucking obsessed with his girlfriend the proof is in the grams and it shows some of violetta's instagrams and his comments one of his comments says i want to lick you everywhere.

37:21Very sexual for Instagram. Yeah, that's keep it in the text. That's a little bit. Yeah. Like if if Henry commented that on my Instagram. Oh, can you imagine? No, I can't. And my parents seeing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. So he would comment sexual things, which I think, again, is one of those things like in retrospect, people are like, okay, he was weird for that. Like there's one picture of her in like a tutu. She's topless, but like covering her boobs because she's a professional ballerina he goes silky smooth perfect and then another picture of her like at you know the dance studio and he comments damn and then you know perfect girl like always commenting like just like kind of sexual I took like 20 million screenshots these were just some that I included on the doc but um he also made weird comments about wanting to be in an open relationship with Violetta in 2019.

38:12In an interview with the Sunday Times, he said he and Violetta are clear they want to feel open to fall in love with other people. He said the pair are sexually exclusive, adding that the two things don't have to go hand in hand. When asked what he envisions for himself in the next five years, he opened up about his interest in exploring love with other people. He said, I'd like to have done a few plays and perform my music. I'd also like to find a lot more love it doesn't need to be sexual I could be done sexually with my girlfriend girlfriend I think we've been pretty clear that I want to feel free to fall in love with people and that option should be open but sexually it can be closed off like what what is that I don't think it can work like that yeah like what are you talking about again this is just one of those things in retrospect where it's like yeah you're such a fucking weirdo like what are you even talking about and it's also like he's doing this interview I highly doubt that Violetta was like yeah go fall in love with people but like I don't know maybe everyone's relationships are different but like i don't know it's one thing to have this conversation behind closed doors and being comfortable with your partner doing this but then just publicly speak on it like this it just and like to say that usually i mean i don't know much about open relationships but my assumption and you guys can correct let me know if this is incorrect is that usually you can be your monocle like you can be emotionally together with a person but also be sexually um with others and you can have your partner be sexually with others why is he saying that sexually i want to be closed off with other individuals i can be sexually closed off with violetta but i want to have emotional relationships yeah like that's worse that's worse yeah agreed agreed so i don't know i just that just seems backwards and the opposite of what i believe an open relationship to be but i've never been in one so yeah me neither but to each their own yeah um like i said they split in 2022 no one knows exactly why they split the allegations against him were in 2020 maybe it had something to do with the fallout from that.

39:56I could see, you know, finding out that not only was your longtime boyfriend cheating on you and sexually, like he said, he's like, I, you know, sexually, no, I'm just talking about falling in love with people. He was like being sexual with not only other women, but underage girls. So yeah, I could see why that would end a relationship, but who knows? There were many blind items throughout the years about him cheating on her unsurprisingly, constantly flying to some weird Washington coastal town called Ocean Shores, and also flying to Asia a lot. And unique underscore ad 8935 said on Reddit, I went to the same high school as them.

40:34He has been cheating on her literally the whole time they were dating. In 2018, Crazy Days and Nights posted a blind item saying this vowed up a list, mostly movie actor who had one franchise and probably has a second cheated on his girlfriend while they were We're on vacation together two weeks ago. Everyone was drunk and she passed out and he hooked up with another party guest. And that was revealed to be about Ansel Elgort. Allegedly. That's horrible. Like I said. You're on vacation together and then you shoot on her while she's asleep? Yeah. Yeah. What a piece of shit. Piece of shit. So again, these are some of the weird things in retrospect where you're like, okay, so you were making hypersexual comments on Instagram.

41:10You were apparently cheating on her. You were talking about having an open relationship and falling in love with other people. and just like a strange, strange person. So let's get into the allegations. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. It's really graphic. Yes. In June 2020, a Twitter user named Gabby alleged that Ansel had sexually assaulted her in 2014 when she was 17 and he was 20. She claimed that he had been DMing her since she was only 15 and that he was fully aware of her age. She also alleged that he solicited nude photos and proposed a threesome involving another underage person. And she posted a very long statement on Instagram and also posted a selfie of them to kind of corroborate.

41:59And this was before AI. So we can, this is what pisses me off about AI because now anyone accused of anything can be like, that's just AI. This is before AI. It's very clear that they were literally taking the selfie together. and she posted a long statement essentially saying that she was sexually assaulted by Ansel. She said that she was a fan of his. And this was the thing that's also so disturbing about this is that like he was such a teen heartthrob at this time and he abused that power because he knew that these teen girls would be obsessed with him and would be like, oh my God, Ansel Elgort is DMing me.

42:37Like obviously they'd be excited about that. I was, you know, how old? I'm trying to think. In 2020, I was in my late 20s. I'd be like, oh my God, what? Like this hot Hollywood actor is DMing me? Oh yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah, it's not even. Yeah. It's no surprise that she would respond and get excited about this. But you don't ever expect the worst thing to happen. You're just stoked that a Hollywood actor is talking to you. Yes, exactly. She said that she didn't think he'd ever see her DM. She DMed him. I was just a kid and was a fan. She said that when they met up, she said that this was my first time having sex and she didn't want to, but he forced himself on her.

43:18And she said she was sobbing in pain. And she also alleged that Ansel told her she would be a beautiful young lady when she was older and said he asked for nudes and proposed a threesome with a friend of hers who was allegedly also underage. She added that she now suffers from PTSD and panic attacks and is in therapy. And she said, finally, I'm ready to talk about it and finally heal. And she said that she wanted other girls who had gone through the same experience with Elgort to know they were not alone. He denied the accusations. He responded online saying, I cannot claim to understand Gabby's feelings, but her description of events is simply not what happened.

43:51He says they had a brief, legal, and entirely consensual relationship. And 17 is New York's legal standard for consent. The issue is that either way, he was not only allegedly soliciting nudes from her when she was underage and knew she was underage. Right. But also forced himself on her sexually. She was begging. What did she say? She said sobbing in pain, sobbing in pain. And yeah, I want to. And the actor went on to apologize for the way it ended, admitting that he just stopped responding to her and disappeared. So basically like trying to make her out to be a scorned woman being like, oh, she's just bitter that I ghosted her.

44:26Like, shut up. In any case, Gabby's accusation was a it caused a ripple effect. It led to a lot of other women to come out with similar accusations that he had DMed them knowing they were underage. Another user shared screenshots of Elgort allegedly messaging her from his private Snapchat account to tell her he had never hooked up with a fan before. She claimed that Elgort had known that the age of consent in Georgia was 16, which was how old she was when she went on two dates with him. Also on the same day, another person posted that Ansel Elgort sent her dick pics on Twitter when she was in eighth grade.

45:01Eighth grade? yeah i didn't realize this i mean all this is disgusting this disgusting disgusting i didn't know about this just absolutely disgusting all of this surfaced uh all of the surfaced an older tweet from a user who asked ansel elgort in french if you remembered sending her the following when she was 15 and he was 21 i want he said i want you to come into my hotel room when i'm in london next i want to kiss you you're so pretty but you can't tell a soul otherwise i could be in so much trouble using his star power to just manipulate like i like you so much but please don't say anything because i'm gonna get in trouble you're gonna get me in trouble yeah relative yeah so and this was an older tweet that had like been there but it never went viral until this happened no one paid attention to it she was 15 and he was 21 that makes no sense and he probably also it seems like he he is like well the legal age of consent in new york is 17 so i can like dm them and stuff when they're underage, but if I'm going to actually meet up with them or like in Georgia at 16 and like she's 16 and blah, blah, blah.

46:04He's probably like, I'm in Europe. Age of consent doesn't matter. Like she was fucking 15. Sick fuck. Uh, where was I? Okay. Apparently this was a huge pattern for him during the Fault in Our Stars era as his star was rising and he was becoming, like we said, kind of this teen idol sex symbol. He was abusing this power dynamic and yeah, he was he was just like this it boy at the time and traveling having access to hotel rooms no supervision tweeting or snapchatting girls in the area yeah like he had all the power at his fingertips it's just so manipulative and controlling and disgusting power yeah another woman on twitter said ansel had sent her pictures of his penis when she was 14 another woman posted a screenshot allegedly showing ansel asking her to send him a picture of something sexy he never addressed the other girl's claims because he knows they're right he has nothing to say to it yeah oh here's the tweet from uh that french girl i know you still follow me do you remember when you sent me this when i was 15 and you were 21 and it's him saying if you tell on me or tell your parents and they get mad i want you to come to my hotel room when i'm in london i want to kiss you you're so pretty but you can't tell a soul otherwise i could be in so much trouble you're too cute wish you were older so gross this is the um this is the dm between him and the uh 16 year old from georgia hi ansel how are you hi are you from atl i am are you planning on doing a show here yeah maybe what grade are you going to be in next year what grade what you're an adult man you're a fucking adult man you sick fuck she says i'm going to be in 11th grade and he says Snapchat me.

47:43It's my secret Snapchat, so don't share it. Smiley face. Disgusting. Another Snapchat screenshot. You ever been with an older guy? The young girl response. No, just no. No. No smiley faces. No. No. Oh my God. Just what a sick fuck. So yeah, this was essentially the end of his rising star. He never addressed the other allegations, but like I said, he denied that there was anything illegal about what he did with Gabby um and yeah like I said Tokyo Vice West Side Story those are his last two roles I don't see him making a comeback what do you think Christy do you think he can come back from this you know I think now in 2026 no I think that he and I almost said Dave Franco James Franco yeah kind of similarly they were on the this rising stardom they were everywhere on every movie and when all these allegations came out against them reasonably so they were canceled for it and i feel like i couldn't see either these two men coming back from it i think our memories about them being such predators are too strong for us to reconcile like any kind of comeback yeah no i i think society has progressed past the need for uh ansel algort or james franco and yeah i mean like like i said ansel algort i was never really like a fan of james franco i used to love james franco he used to be like my ultimate celebrity crush i was like I was so disappointed when all of that came out about him.

49:10And I don't think that there's a need for him to return to the spotlight. Yeah. And I think they're both similar in that they were using their positions of power as actors. And I think with James Franco, he was a professor, I think, at UCLA. And he would teach acting classes and he would kind of groom these women. And they saw him as this acting coach. He's James Franco. And he would instruct them to do very inappropriate things, highly sexual things. And prey on their insecurities, knowing that he was the one in power, not these women. And the same thing with Ansel Elgore. He's traveling the world.

49:38He's a star of Fault in Our Stars. He's in Baby Driver. He's at the Golden Globes. He's winning shit. How can you have these vulnerable young women who can't really advocate for themselves because they see this high-powered guy. Yeah. Who can just tell them and convince them to do anything. It's disgusting. And I forgot. It was James Franco. I think he would – I don't remember. I don't recall if he was grooming underage girls, but he would basically use his position of power. It was like his students. His students, yeah. so professor student yeah it's it's a power dynamic thing yes and i think the same thing i mean obviously what ansel elgort was doing involved allegedly underage girls which is illegal and disgusting i think that even if they were of age there is like a power dynamic thing yes absolutely and they use that to their advantage they use it to their yeah they abuse it and it's just oh it's so gross and it's so sad because i mean i i don't know nothing else to say about this other than I feel devastated for these young women because now they were so young when this happened, their brains aren't fully developed.

50:39They have to walk into adulthood with so much trauma and perhaps like guilt, but it was never their fault. I mean, this is just horrible. They changed and completely altered. He changed and completely altered these young women's lives forever. And I think this Gabby woman or this Gabby, yeah, this Gabby woman, she said that she suffered severe post-traumatic stress, panic attacks. Like she has not been well since this. he's yeah deeply impacted her yeah yeah exactly it's just absolutely disgusting so like christy said he has been back in the news for the first time really since all of this came out and i think when when tokyo vice came out there was a lot of talk about the fact that he was still getting cast and stuff even like gabby uh tweeted about how she was like it's been years why is he still like on my television screen right when i opened like hbo max um so triggering for these girls to see him anywhere and i think it was there was largely a consensus that like we're not gonna watch this show and that's i mean it was canceled after two seasons as good as it may have been um people i think like with james franco it's like we don't need him we don't need him done the damage much was done and it's like so it's such gross disgusting accusations that it's just not something like there are some celebrities that i know have been quote-unquote canceled and are still out there like lewis ck is an example i don't think that lewis jr yeah yeah yeah i don't think which by the way i know someone personally that was assaulted by cuba getting jr like just prolific predator and you know these are people that are still out there like getting roles for some reason just everyone decided that like no ansel elgort is not gonna make a comeback i think because his fan base was the younger generation and the younger generation is less forgiving because um they're more righteous in a lot of ways which is good which is good they have you know they they know the difference between right and wrong it's a different generation where we don't let these things slide anymore yes um but i just remember like there was always so much discourse about Tokyo Vice on like Twitter and stuff.

52:53And when you were actually bringing up, you brought up a really good point of he's on these shows after these allegations. When you open up your streaming services and see his face plastered on your screen. And I can't help but bring up when I watched the Diddy documentary, a lot of his victims came out and said, do you know how triggering it was for us to turn on TV, the radio and hear his voice or see his face? Like I would go into a state of panic. I would vomit. I had like severe physical reactions. Again, And I'm glad Tokyo Voice, it was canceled after two seasons because I don't want these women to be triggered again when they fucking open up HBO Max.

53:27It's not fair. Not fair. I can't even imagine even someone who has been a victim of sexual assault and sees, wait, this is a fucking predator and we're giving him like that's triggering to any victim who knows what he's done. Right. It's just like, yeah. So I remember that being, you know, a topic of conversation when that show was on the air. But my point is, since then, nothing until earlier this year, early 2026, it was revealed that he had become a father. He was spotted with a mystery woman. We don't know her identity. It hasn't been disclosed. But he was packed, walking with her and a baby strapped to his chest.

54:06So this is presumably the mother of his child and current partner, even though we don't know his identity. and just uh yesterday um February wait no we we recorded this I'm trying to think of when he posted this I think it was we're recording on February 12th I think he he posted this on Tuesday the 10th okay he posts on Instagram a little selfie of him with a baby and um he posted fatherhood is exhilarating exhausting it's everything and more the present feels more present and the future brighter. He wakes us up all night and yet I've never felt stronger during the day. He goes from crying to laughing, expressing everything he feels and it's freed me to do the same.

54:47I wanted to keep it sacred just for us, but now I want to share the story with you as it's the brightest, happiest thing I've ever experienced. I hope it brings you happiness too. So much love, Ansel. I hate that he signed it. So much love, Ansel. And we're not here to snark on a baby, obviously. Like we're happy for him that she, this baby seems to be happy, healthy, he's happy. I can't help but think this is kind of giving the Nick Vile edit where, look, I'm a preformed man because I have a child now. Yeah. Everything you've ever heard of me is I'm now exonerated up because I have a child now.

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59:30Each post is seemingly submitted by an anonymous student. They said, once I was in class and we were learning about the Niger River, Ansel repeatedly mocked me and said N-word river multiple times. nothing was ever done about it the post reads newsweek emphasized that the post did not explicitly identify him and that there was no proof the allegation was about him well these were just allegations twitter took it and ran with it this was another layer to his cancellation in 2020 um yeah i did not see that but that's just like another add it to the list genuinely add it to the fucking listen it doesn't surprise me no like we know that he's disgusting yeah it's this privileged affluent wealthy white dude who thinks he can walk on water nothing no one can ever tell him that he's doing wrong exactly of course he does this shit entitled entitled white nepo baby predator essentially predator it's emphasis on predator but now he's a dad so so i mean like it's fine now yeah like all is forgiven because he's a dad and like this whole essay on his instagram you know i feel stronger during the day yeah you know this baby has made feel happier.

1:00:37I hope it brings you happiness too. Shut up. Like, please. And he goes, he goes, I wanted to keep it sacred. No, you didn't. You did a pap walk. Let me guarantee you, yeah, the baby was born five minutes ago. No, no, literally. It's been two weeks, Ansel, and you wanted to keep it sacred and you changed your mind. Like, shut up. This is a baby that just came out of the womb. Right. You wanted to keep it sacred. No one is, no paparazzi are following you anymore. And it was so clearly staged. It was so staged. They were so close. They were so close. So clearly staged. DSLR camera, like right into their face.

1:01:08I think her family was like surrounding them. It was so staged. And then he posts on Instagram. Okay. Yeah. It's so sacred. Oh, I have the willies even like thinking about how disgusting this man is. I hate him. He might be the worst person I think we've covered on this show. Well, not the worst. There's been plenty. I don't know. There's been bad. Like I'm trying to think. Dave Pornow, Ashton Kutcher. Ashton Kutcher. It's always a man. Yeah. Ashton Kutcher. It's always a man. he he falls in the same category as i think ashton kutcher and dave portnoy totally um i'm trying to think of who else and the most nefarious part is that sexual assault is horrible and i think sexual sexual assault of a minor you have to be a certain i mean all of it is horrible to be very clear but the fact that he used his power to groom these young young girls 15 14 what is wrong with you And that he kind of skirted around like consent laws.

1:01:58Yeah. Yeah. She's 17. That's legal in New York. And, you know, like that's so he's never technically been charged with a crime. And that's what also sucks so much about like just the burden of proof for something like this. Right. Because he can just say, well, she she consented and she was of age and she's like, I was sobbing in pain. But like she can't she can't prove that. And like, of course, in the moment, so many people can say, you know, you should have reported it right away. You should have gone to the police. So much said. Exactly. Exactly. No, I like you. No idea. Telling your own brain what actually happened.

1:02:35And also when you're young, this was her first time. Like she and this doesn't even count as really her first time having sex. This is not sex. This was assault. Right. But she was a virgin. So in her mind, she's probably like, is this like normal? is this like how it happens like right she was so young like how is she supposed to know i don't know it's just it's so fucking disturbing and disgusting what safe consent what it's hard for you to decipher that point what safe consensual sex looks like when your first time is completely altered by someone who raped you exactly perfectly said and yeah i'm just i'm really happy that he is you know really disappeared from relevance thank god and we're the only ones probably talking about him at all right it pains us that we're even talking about him but it's fine i think it's for the greater good because if you weren't familiar with how disgusting these accusations were now you are and um you know when we talk about the bucket putting him in the same bucket as ashton kutcher and dave portnoy who both have thriving careers still ashton kutcher is in that new fx show the beauty on on hulu that ryan ryan and i watch all of ryan murphy's garbage Don't ask me why.

1:03:47I watch all of it. Me too. Me too. Except this one. Except this one. Yeah, me too. I will not watch The Beauty because of Ashton Kutcher being in it. So I think the best thing you can do when you see a disgusting piece of shit man still getting opportunities is to vow to not support them, watch their content. So whether it's Louis C.K. or Dave Portnoy in Barstool, I side-eye anyone who supports any Barstool franchise. eyes honestly I do like I yeah you know I think that um a lot of a lot of people listen to chicks in the office for example I would love for um what are their names Rianne Fran Rianne Fran to go solo and not be associated with Barstool anymore because you know they seem like great girls I know they seem so cool they seem awesome and I know that we have a lot of overlap like yeah A lot of baby snarks listen to chicks in the office.

1:04:44And I just, I can't, I can't get behind anything that Dave Portnoy is associated with. And I think that's the best thing you can do if you don't condone this behavior. Do not, not saying that Rhea and Fran are at all responsible for Dave Portnoy's actions, but I think that they're big enough at this point. I don't know what their contract looks like, obviously. Another call her daddy situation, you know, where they're being like underpaid. I don't know. I don't know what their situation is. I don't know shit. But my point is they are big enough at this point to go off on their own. And I think they should.

1:05:15Yes, I think. And I think maybe because they are the biggest female show, I think, under Barstool. Yeah, 100%. Maybe they're getting paid like very handsomely because they bring in a female, a huge female audience. But yeah, they're better than this. Yeah, there has to be some incentive that Dave Portnoy is using to keep them around. But that's just an example of something that I'm like, oh, I would be interested in checking out that podcast if it wasn't associated with Dave Portnoy. like i'm trying to think who else what other men are still there are so many that i'm probably not remembering that are still out there like performing james franco is has all that disappeared yeah him and ansel have very similar career trajectories where they're off the top of the world and you never hear about them again absolutely um i mean you guys can sound off in the comments of anyone we're obviously missing i know there's i mean there's not a shortage of men that have done problematic predator things.

1:06:06There's not a shortage of disgusting men. But yeah. There's more at the tip of my tongue. I feel like we should know, you know, there should be more that we're sounding off and we're just blinking because it's early. But let us know who we are missing. And if there's anyone that is, is Ansel Al Gore triggering any other celebrities that should be canceled by now, but have not been. I'm curious to see what you guys have to say. But I'm so, I mean, happy for him that he has a healthy baby and he is seemingly in a happy relationship. Happy for Violetta that she was able to get out of this weird relationship where he was cheating on her every second of the day.

1:06:40And I'm happy that we don't have to see him on our movie screens anymore. Oh, Woody Allen. Oh, God. Woody Allen is still making movies. Of course. And he's friends with everyone in Hollywood. Yeah, and people in Hollywood love him. They're like, well, it's Woody. It's all Woody. He's old and he's cool. He's old. He makes great films. Woody Allen is one I'm looking at. There's actually an IMDb list. Hollywood sexual predators on IMDb. Obviously, we have like Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, you know, the classics. Yeah. Casey Affleck is one that I think people can write about. You didn't know this?

1:07:15No. Him and Joaquin Phoenix were accused together when they were making a movie together. No. Stop. Yeah, you need to. I know. And I really loved Manchester by the Sea. And now I can't rewatch it. It was that movie or whatever. And Ocean's Eleven. he's an ocean's 11 right well Manchester by the sea was one of the movies where they were kind of uh banning I mean coming together to assault women that makes me really no no no not when they were making Manchester by the sea that was just yeah it was a movie that him and Joaquin Phoenix did I think it was like some sort of like documentary or mockumentary I'm not even gonna bother to look it up sorry um but yeah they were apparently assaulting women together and Manchester by the sea he ended up winning an Oscar for but during that campaign is when during his Oscar campaign is when it started to come out.

1:08:01And I was really, I was really upset about that because I loved that movie. And I thought he was like really good at it, but now I can't rewatch it. We should do a whole Joaquin River Phoenix episode on Patreon. Oh my God, we should. I went down a rabbit hole because I watched Stand By Me two weekends ago. It's such a good movie. And I think that whole movie is just dark now. Rob Rainier, Casey. Well, it was always like a dark movie, but yeah. Yeah. Like just, it's so sad what happened to so many of the cast or people behind the movie yeah and how that did i tell you that one time i saw cory feldman in a hotel no yeah i like walked past my friend goes was that cory film it was like yeah like i was like oh my god it was but he was just it was at the hollywood rose so random so but um it's also crazy because i watched that too when rob reiner was tragically murdered and um it is a movie about like death and young man and life and yeah and how you know the the circle of life so it is interesting to watch now in retrospect but um it's such a good film such such a good movie and christy and i share the same brain because when we walked past the viper room on um is that on like sunset boulevard yeah yes west hollywood yeah yeah we walked past the viper room when we both stopped we were like river phoenix we're like wait a minute we stopped we literally stopped and paid our respects like yes i'm not exaggerating i'm not trying to be funny no no no literally not even trying to be funny like we literally were like pay our respects tracks and and this is why we are saying if we go with any of our girlfriends that aren't into pop culture they'll be like wait what is this so what are you talking about immediately we like stopped dead in our tracks and we're like we both looked i remember vividly we both stopped looked at each other grabbed each other we were like river phoenix yes and then of course like two blocks later we saw sushi park it was like a hollywood like yeah in the oppenheim group yeah yeah it was like all within five minutes of each other yeah um anyway guys i know this episode is a little on the more disturbing side, but...

1:09:55One of the most, I think arguably one of the most disturbing episodes we've done. Yeah, it is. He's disgusting. Would love to hear your thoughts, opinions in the comments. Let us know what you think of Ansel Algort, any other creditors out there that are still working that we're forgetting to mention. Let's come together and vow not to support them. And yeah, I guess what else? Follow us on Instagram at snarkbaitpod. We also have a good Patreon episode that we dropped yesterday. Yes. So the Nancy Guthrie case is obviously top of mind for everyone right now. And the case is developing. So we dropped it like as most up to date as we could.

1:10:44So if you guys want to learn more about that case, if you're like overwhelmed with everything you're seeing on Instagram, on TikTok, and you're like, I just need a one-stop shop for everything that's happening and the latest developments, go to patreon.com slash snarkbaitpod where we cover all of that. Hopefully we can. We got a lot of DMs about it, about, you know, our thoughts and it's something that has been consuming me. And so we decided to do a little Patreon episode. We are recording this from the past. So right now, I'm sure there have been more developments by the time you hear this, but we recorded this Patreon closer to when it releases, if that makes sense.

1:11:18Sorry, I'm like not making sense. No, it makes sense. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully that makes sense. Yeah. When we record Nancy Guthrie, we'll release it immediately so it will be as current as possible. Yes, as top of it as possible. Yeah, much more current than what we're talking about right now. So it's an evolving case. Every hour we're learning something different. Yeah. Everything is fishy. The Nest camera footage, everything about it. Oh my God, it's chilling. It's so chilling. And people are thinking, was that a woman? The eyes almost looked female. I don't, I mean, like, I personally, I don't see the woman at all.

1:11:44I see a man. Maybe it's because I'm, it's always a man. It's always a man. Yeah. Always a fucking man. Also a woman to be able. Yeah. Wait, what? No, we were talking about how it's like, we're like Dave Portnoy, Ashton Kutcher. Yeah. Dave, it could be. Yeah. I mean, and I do think that a female being able to carry an 80, I mean, even though she's a woman and she's, I don't know how big she is or how tall she is, but it's hard for a woman to kind of transport another human. It creates, I mean, it's strength. It's a lot of strength. Yeah, and it just, it looks like, it looks like a stocky. Stocky build.

1:12:13Yeah, and I'm not trying to be funny. Like, it actually looked like Dave Portnoy's body type. Yeah, don't worry. So by the time, again, by the time you listen to it, I'm sure there will be updates. Maybe you'll even know by now, hopefully. But again, we're recording in the past. And yeah, you can. It's completely in real time. It's crazy. Yeah, it's so crazy. I'm so just confused and have so many questions. But our newsletter link, if you want to sign up for our weekly newsletter, which we have so much fun doing with Bravo recaps and links to things we're loving and just fun little tidbits. What's making us laugh this week?

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