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25:24Snark Bait Hosts:so here are some of her post disney career acting credits i would love to hear if you have seen any of these knowing me i've seen all of them yeah probably uh notable roles include blended with adam sandler 2014 the duff 2015 she won the teen choice award for movie villain that was designated ugly fat friend the movie about the duff yes when we're we're covering hailey Beck, who is Noah Beck, TikTok influencer sister, who's being investigated for being grooming her student, her 15-year-old student at the time. She's a 27-year-old. And I saw this creator on TikTok refer to Haley Beck as the Duff.

26:03They said, disgusting, ugly family member. Because like, whatever, I can talk shit on Haley Beck. She's literally a predator.

26:09Snark Bait Hosts:In the text, which we will talk about on Patreon, we haven't recorded this yet, But in the text, he is calling her disgusting to her face. He's literally telling her that she's disgusting, that she is like a whale. The things that he's saying to her are, you know, it seems like he was trying to get her to leave him alone. And she wouldn't because she was so desperate. It's so embarrassing and disgusting. She referred to herself as a beluga whale. Haley herself referred to herself as a beluga whale. And he's like, yeah, you were. And it was like a kink that she enjoyed. but she enjoyed people will get into it on page one, obviously.

26:44But students in the classroom said that sometimes they would hear him call her names like fat and she would like get off on it. She wouldn't like she was happy for any attention, positive or negative.

26:54Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah. Very disgusting. Anyway, sorry for that quick aside. We will talk about that on Patreon. The Babysitter 2017, Assassination Nation 2018, Midnight Sun 2018, Infamous 2020, and Girl 2020 called her quote unquote best performance to date. I personally loved the movie You Get Me, which was in 2017, I guess. And I think it's still on Netflix. I love that movie. It's very Lifetime movie-esque. She plays a psycho. She's like this new girl that moves to town and she hooks up with a guy and has like a one night stand with him and he's like the hot guy at high school. She like ends up stalking him and becoming obsessed with him.

27:33Snark Bait Hosts:And he's like, leave me alone. Really, really, really good movie. So love that one. She also was in the episode Drive of American Horror Stories in 2022. And American Horror Stories, to be clear, is different than American Horror Story. It's the anthology series where every episode is a different little spooky story. Kind of like grown-up Are You Afraid of the Dark, actually. I mean, kids will never understand. What is the current version of Are You Afraid of the Dark? Black Mirror. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Black Mirror, American Horror Stories. I love even like the Twilight Zone with Jordan Peele a couple years ago.

28:07Snark Bait Hosts:Like I love any show that has like little spooky stories, starting with Goosebumps and Are You Afraid of the Dark? I was going to say Goosebumps. I loved. Da, da, da, da, da. Goosebumps. Viewer beware. You're in for a scare. Oh, my God. Wait, it just came to me. Yay. Oh, my God. I loved Goosebumps and Are You Afraid of the Dark. The fingers as eyes. Something was wrong with me. Like something was so wrong with me. my sister and my cousins were like, why do you want to watch like, like fucked up? Like, are you afraid of the dark? I don't want to watch this. It's scary. And I was like, this is why you and I are so close.

28:40Like every Saturday, Oh, 48 hours mystery. I must go to the TV. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It was television.

28:47Snark Bait Hosts:I will say that her episode of American horror stories, I wouldn't say she was like the strongest actress from what I remember. I think that she's really good in certain roles. I think that in this role, it was, I wasn't, she wasn't embodying the role enough for me. But I think in certain projects, she is really good. Like I said, that movie You Get Me, I thought that she was really good. I haven't seen any of these, shockingly. Yeah, but... So I have nothing to say about her acting career. I just simply know her as an influencer, content creator. So of the 2020 movie Girl, Bella accused Mickey Rourke, her co-star, of bruising her genitals during filming and said it was one of the all-time worst experiences of her life.

29:25Snark Bait Hosts:So again, abuse at the hands of a man, you know, as part of the Hollywood machine. She recounted how she and the Oscar nominee were sharing a scene in which she was kneeling with her hands zip tied around her back. He's supposed to take a metal grinder to my kneecap and insisted he use it on my genitals through my jeans, hitting them over and over again. I had bruises on my pelvic bone. Working with him was one of the all-time worst experiences of my life working as an actress. And she also shared a screenshot of a post on X in which she alleged that he separately rubbed an engine and covered her completely in dirt for another scene.

29:59Snark Bait Hosts:And she said, I guess he thought it was funny to humiliate me in front of the entire crew. And mind you, the crew is all watching and I'm hoping someone stood up for her, but I'm assuming not just based on the way that she's describing these two events. Yeah, she has just been put through the wringer by so many men in Hollywood, it seems like. Mickey Rourke is so fucking gross. He's also ugly. He's also ugly. So to remind you guys, he used to be really good looking and then got like a bunch of plastic surgery and a facelift that made him look botched. And he's like so disgusting now. So pick a struggle.

30:31Snark Bait Hosts:Pick a struggle. You can't be both. Disgusting, ugly, and an asshole. Pick a struggle. And abusive. I'm going to start using that. Pick a struggle. I can't have it all. She starred in Freeform's Famous and Love for two seasons. This ran from 2017 to 2018. I remember watching like three episodes of this, and then I gave up. And she plays like a celebrity, like a movie star. Yeah, I'm like, who was? I definitely remember this. And I'm looking at the cast. Literally, who? Yeah. Who is it? Like, she's the only notable name. But I remember this one. Yeah, I remember. I was like, oh, interesting. Love a good Freeform original.

31:08Snark Bait Hosts:Bella Thorne famous. Yeah, the premise was that she was like a movie star who gets like, you know, she's OK, wait. Paige Townsend, an ordinary college student, gets her big break after auditioning for the starring role in a Hollywood blockbuster and must now navigate her new star studded life and undeniable chemistry with her co-lead and her best friend. Okay, yes. Sure. Sure. I remember being like, ooh, interesting. And then I gave up. Yeah. She appeared as Swan on The Masked Singer, season three in 2020. Our favorite show, Masked Singer. Shout out to Ashley Simpson, who won it this year. Oh, yeah.

31:43Snark Bait Hosts:Shout out our girl, Ashley Simpson. So most of Bella's filmography consists of low budget, direct to digital releases. She told SiriusXM that she was disappointed by almost every movie that she's been in, which is really sad. She needs to get a better, like, manager or something. Yeah, he's kind of putting her in a little bit of low-budget films, it seems like. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't sound like her, you know, acting career. It never really took off, which I think is why, again, she has gotten into directing and OnlyFans and influencing and so many different, you know, reinventions of herself.

32:17Snark Bait Hosts:And speaking of which, her music career. She released her debut single, Watch Me, in 2011 with Zendaya, which I had no idea that they released a song together. It peaked at number 86 on Billboard Hot 100. She signed to Hollywood Records. Her planned debut album, Call It Whatever, was canceled because she wasn't happy with auto-tuned bad music. She founded her own label, Filthy Fangs, in 2018. The debut studio album, What Do You See Now?, was never released. She said, I'm not trying to be worthy of a Grammy right now. It's not the career that I want. I'm an actress. I'm a writer. So she just decided that she actually didn't want to go into music.

32:51Snark Bait Hosts:um her 2020 diss track aimed at tana mojo stupid or tana mojo tana everyone yelled at me for saying tana i'm like i don't know i don't like watch yeah you're not a consumer of her and also like publications some people pronounce it like that tana mojo stupid fucking bitch was widely mocked that's what the diss track was called stupid fucking bitch i wasn't calling i was like whoa no no i was not calling anyone a stupid fucking bitch that's what her diss track Yeah, I remember we covered this and it was causing a huge rift because they were in a relationship and then they had some beef publicly because of the song.

33:25And then Tana released a diss track against Bella. It was like she said she said.

33:30Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah, exactly. So she released her poetry book, The Life of a Wannabe Mogul, Mental Disarray, Volume 1, in July 2019. And it was written in two weeks on a typewriter, deliberately unedited, published by Rare Bird Books. We don't know. Was this a joke? Was this supposed to be serious? It's a collection of short poems. One of them, for example, is the untitled, Life's a Big Dump. Just flush it. Don't forget to use toidal paper. It's supposed to say toilet, but it says toidal paper because it can make your ass sore. That's such a visual that I don't really want to hear at 6.31 a.m. Do you know what I mean?

34:03Snark Bait Hosts:Also, I understand not wanting an editor to, you know, if this is supposed to be a brain dump, I understand, like, being like, you know what? I want my raw thoughts to stay as raw and unfiltered as possible. But you can still like spell check. Like the fact that toilet is misspelled. Like, I'm sorry, that doesn't add anything that takes away from the experience of reading the poetry. Jezebel wrote a review of this kind of scathing. Mogul is baddie not only because it's lack of proofreading. The book reads like a series of blog posts, a collection of erratic musings, chronicling Thorne's thoughts on life-changing events.

34:39Snark Bait Hosts:I'd graciously describe it as a non-linear memoir, but the eclecticism of the format, scribbles, Xerox, Polaroids, haikus, mini-essays, and free-verse poetry make it easy to envision Mogul as a Tumblr page of bad teenage poetry, easily scrolled through. That's partially its charm. Her language is a jumble of nebulous apostrophes about death, inside jokes about her ex-boyfriend, Maude Son, and her ex-girlfriend, Tana Mojo, and diaristic admissions. The writing isn't sharp, but is purposefully erratic, like she's trying to offer intimacy by publishing the unedited drivel coming from her brain. Yeah, just a hot mess.

35:11Just a bunch of slop, it sounds like.

35:13Snark Bait Hosts:So she actually has some celebrity blurbs on the back of the book. Zendaya said, You'll always be the CC to my Rocky. Diplo said, Hey, I didn't read this book. Bella gave it to me and I left it on an airplane. Marilyn Manson said, I just became illiterate after reading this, but the nude photographs were still very interesting. Bella has pivoted to directing. She's directed more serious things, but her directorial debut was actually for a Pornhub original called Her and Him. It was part of Pornhub's Visionaries Directors Club. It's a narrative adult short starring Abella Danger and Smallhand with Smallhands.

35:53Snark Bait Hosts:Smallhands. Wes Wilson. Yeah. Craig Conover. Yeah. With music by then-boyfriend Maude Son, originally conceived as a Christmas-themed horror film before morphing into erotica. It actually, excuse me, it actually won a Pornhub Vision Award. So that's not nothing. Something that she said about the movie, she goes, The process of shooting was quite interesting because we had real-life fucking on set, which I had never shot before at all. Well, yes, that's, you know, what pornography is. Right. So her OnlyFans saga in August 2020, and this is probably one of the biggest controversies surrounding her career.

36:28Snark Bait Hosts:And I would love to know your thoughts if you haven't heard of this scandal. So Bella joined OnlyFans on August 24th, 2020, charging$20 a month. She made$1 million in her first 24 hours, which was a platform record. $2 million within the first week. Then she offered$200 pay-per-view content marketed as nude that turned out to be lingerie photos similar to her Instagram content. People wanted refunds. It was kind of like false advertising, I guess. OnlyFans responded with policy changes that devastated sex workers because Bella Thorne, you know, not to say that she wasn't a quote-unquote real sex worker.

37:07Snark Bait Hosts:She was a celebrity. She had other streams of revenue. So many sex workers, OnlyFans was their main source of revenue. And she was fucking it up for everyone, for the people who actually needed the platform. Their policy changes were PPV capped at$50. So that's pay-per-view content capped at$50, tips capped at$50 to$100, which I feel like would be a huge deal to sex workers because so many of their biggest fans probably tipped them a lot. So to cap tips and cap pay-per-view content at, you know,$50 or$100, it was probably devastating. I mean, it was devastating for them. And the payout processing extended from 7 days to 30 days.

37:52Snark Bait Hosts:So they ended up getting paid later because of all of the people that requested refunds for Bella Thorne's false advertising. OnlyFans denied it was about Bella. I think two, you know, kind of saved face. But people put two and two together, and sex workers were extremely angry. OnlyFans creator Rebecca Madison said, the pandemic pushed me out of one job already. And again, this is during the pandemic. So a lot of sex workers that were working in person were now, OnlyFans was their main source of income. Now Bella Thorne's behavior has pushed me out of another. The concept of digital gentrification was coined from it, which again, Bella Thorne is already a rich celebrity.

38:30Snark Bait Hosts:She didn't need to invade the space and then ruin it. That's literally gentrification. A tweet read, a white Disney star fucking up a platform that allowed sex workers to earn safely and with autonomy is basically the snapshot of white women co-opting spaces for the marginalized. And it seems like between OnlyFans, and not to defend her in any way here because this is extremely fucked up, but I feel like between directing porn and her OnlyFans debut, it seems like she's a pattern of wanting to reclaim power and control and her own sexuality after years of feeling exploited yeah it's her way of reclaiming the power after not having power i'd imagine for so long and i think i understand why these creators are upset because with her platform she can create her own subscription base yeah platform for her fans to come direct to her post it to her instagram hey if you guys want exclusive content go to bellathor.com and i'll share that you know whatever but it's like it's the platform on what you're doing which makes it quote unquote gentrified and you're taking away from other creators that are actually needing the money desperately.

39:37I understand why they are upset about it. At the same time, Bella seems to be acting in ways of, like I said, like it's a, it seems like she's trying to rewrite, not rewrite history, but yeah, take the control in her own hands because she never had the chance to do so the majority of her life.

39:51Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah, exactly. And speaking of which, like creating her own platform, she ends up launching her own OnlyFans management company called Content X. Rolling Stone reported that it was a hot mess. Former clients reported declining earnings, being pushed toward more risque content, and called it just profiting off of the backs of sex workers. So also not great. By 2021, she was reportedly OnlyFans' second highest earner at$11 million per month, which is obviously crazy. So in terms of her other business ventures, she launched Forbidden Flowers, a cannabis brand, in 2019 with Glasshouse Group in California.

40:26Snark Bait Hosts:It's currently available at 57 plus dispensaries and it's her biggest revenue stream. So this is actually one successful business venture. She has a couple that were not so successful, including Filthy Things makeup palettes sold for$50 to$60, sold out on launch day, but were later criticized for their steep pricing and accused of copying indie brand Juvia's Place. This brand, Filthy Things makeup does not exist anymore. Yeah, I've never even heard of it. Yeah. Then there was Thorne by Bella, another cosmetics line with products named Fuck Me Fire Trucked and DSL. Why were all makeup brand for so long better than sex mascara, like orgasm blush?

41:07Yeah. It is really weird. I always feel self-conscious because I'm actually wearing orgasm blush right now. It's a great blush.

41:13Snark Bait Hosts:I really do like it. It's so funny how everything was sexual in the 2010s with makeup. Yeah. She also had products for cystic acne, suffers. And she's been very open about the fact that she has struggled with her with her skin over the years. This brand also doesn't exist anymore. And Slash has rebranded what does exist of it now. It's actually Bella by Thorne now instead of Thorne by Bella. And it's jewelry and smoking accessories. So another, you know, business of hers, quote unquote, is her Instagram. Like you said she is an influencer she has 20 million plus followers she reportedly charged 60k to 100k per sponsored post and told vogue she bought a house entirely with instagram earnings in 2018 at 20 years old which is obviously incredible annual estimate is one to two million dollars from social media alone so between her like only fans earnings and her social media earnings she really doesn't need to act.

42:14No. Oh, my God. I feel like it would just be a sunk cost. She should, yeah, she should divert all of her attention towards her 20 million followers. I didn't realize she had that many. Yeah. That's like more than Alex Earl.

42:24Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, Alex Earl is still so new in the grand scheme of things. Like all of these celebrities like Bella Thorne, you know, I know she's not on the same levels like Zendaya or like Demi Lovato or Selena Gomez, but kind of those tweenie bopper stars that kids grew up with always have so many freaking followers yeah um so from 2025 or this is her later career so this is actually um yeah this is 2025 she wrapped her feature directorial debut color your heart starring christopher ecklisten and tiffany haddish it was based on her 2024 short unsettled her short won holly shorts best rising director award also written produced by thorn color your heart this is from deadline follows a young gay man struggling for self-acceptance in a hostile community.

43:13Snark Bait Hosts:Haunted by his repressed memories that twist into nightmarish visions, he must navigate a gauntlet of fear, violence, and fleeting beauty on a journey that's as terrifying as it is liberating. So, got pretty good review from what it seems. And some upcoming roles are The Trainer, directed by Tony Kaye, co-starring Paris Hilton and Julia Fox, and Spring Breakers colon Salvation Mountain, which I guess is the Spring Breakers sequel with James Franco and Mike Tyson. James Franco was still working, question mark? Apparently. So yeah, Bella Thorne choosing to work with him is also kind of a question mark.

43:51Snark Bait Hosts:Great. So let's get into her relationship history. Did you know that she dated Charlie Puth? Okay, the only reason I knew about this was because you just want attention. People wonder if it's about Bella or Selena. And I've never been able to determine which one it is about. Yeah, so she actually dated Tyler Posey from Teen Wolf before Charlie Puth. But then her and Tyler broke up, so she started hanging out with Charlie Puth a little bit. Did you ever watch Overcompensating, Benny Drama's show? No, but when you were talking about Tyler Posey, I just have to say, when I was at the VMAs with that one, you know, I talked about this on the Justin Bieber episode last week.

44:28When I was on the red carpet, I saw Tyler Posey and I screamed at him and I was like, Made in Manhattan is one of my favorite movies. And Dylan O 'Brien. He was in that? Yeah, he was the kid.

44:36Snark Bait Hosts:It's been so long. Dylan O 'Brien and Tyler Posey started laughing because I thought it was a fun— Oh, my God. Good job making them laugh. I know. I love Dylan O 'Brien. So, Charlie invited Bella to Jingle Ball in Miami, serenaded her on stage, and they were photographed kissing on the beach. Then Puth saw what he thought was a current article about Bella and her ex-boyfriend Tyler Posey still being together, but he was actually old. Instead of texting her, he posted eight tweets accusing her of cheating, saying no one should have their heart messed with like this. I don't know Tyler personally, but I know he shouldn't be treated this way.

45:12Snark Bait Hosts:She told me she was not with him anymore. This is all news to me. Like, what a fucking loser. Bella's response was, Ty and I have been broken up for over two weeks and Charlie and I aren't dating. We are friends. She received death threats and snake emojis from approximately two million people because Charlie Puth, you know, had all these fans that he basically sent after her. Kiki Palmer publicly defended her. And she said, you know, Charlie and I were hanging out. He saw an old interview and got butt hurt. But instead of texting me and asking about it, he put it on Twitter. In 2025, you know, like almost 10 years later, Bella reignited the drama.

45:47Snark Bait Hosts:She commented on an Instagram post saying he lied to the entire world about me and started a hate train all because I wouldn't do the deed with him. So basically saying that he did this all because she wouldn't sleep with him. Okay, and that's so interesting because I feel like after Charlie Puth sang the national anthem at the Super Bowl this year, he's been having such good press. And I think he's married now. Yeah, I think they had a baby, yeah. Yeah, he just is having really good publicity right now. And I didn't know this. Okay, so now I think attention is about Bella and not about Selena Gomez.

46:18Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah, people speculate that it is. He's, I don't know, he gives me the, but why I asked you if you watch overcompensating is because there's a running gag in overcompensating, which is so funny, by the way. Benny drama show that he wrote and starred in. They're currently filming season two, I believe. And it's a running gag where Charlie XCX is like coming to the college campus to perform. And Adam DeMarco, who plays Mary Beth Barone's boyfriend in the show, goes, she goes, oh, I have work to do for the Charlie concert. And he goes, poof. And she goes, XCX. And it's like a running gag where he goes, poof, XCX.

46:55Oh, my God. So funny.

46:56Snark Bait Hosts:Okay. So. I don't know what I would automatically think of if someone said I'm going for the Charlie concert. Like, what would you say? I would say Charlie XCX. Like, Charlie Puth is not relevant in my world. He's not relevant at all. I don't think he's relevant in anyone's world. All the time. But I feel like in the zeitgeist that is pop culture, Charlie Puth is everywhere. Do you know what I mean? No. We're on different internets. like he is not all over like my for you page at all no i feel like he's always in the fucking zeitgeist and i don't know why he's such a loser i'm sorry this really gave me the yuck about him it's char charlie one word is charlie xcx that's why the joke was so funny that is who uh okay so let's talk about the scott disick fling this was in con in 2017 bella who was 19 at the time went on a date with then 34 Scott Disick.

47:46Snark Bait Hosts:Again, this was Scott Disick's first in a long string of very, very, very much younger women. They went on a date in LA, then flew to Cannes for his birthday. Pool photos showed Disick touching her a lot, notably her boobs. She later claimed her nipple popped out of her bikini and he was fixing it. Hours later, Scott was photographed with his ex, Chloe Bartali, while Bella was at an event. She flew home and she told Complex Magazine, I love to go out and have fun, but I just don't party hardcore like that. And it was way too much for me. I was never with him sexually. And Kendall Jenner revealed on Keeping Up with the Kardashians that Scott admitted that he was doing all this to make Court mad and jealous, which I think we all knew at the time that he was still obsessed with Courtney after they broke up in 2015.

48:30A hundred percent. And I remember this quote when she was like, I liked hanging out with Scott, but it became too hardcore for me with the drugs. And I remember, I mean, this is just my own bias when it comes to Bella Thorne. I remember thinking, oh, she doesn't party. Like she's hanging out with Tana and Scott Disick who are like admittedly notably use drugs and alcohol. So I was like, oh, interesting. But yeah, I mean, like I believe her. I just assumed that she was engaging in substances.

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51:46Snark Bait Hosts:So from late 2017 to early 2019, she dated Tana Mojo in Mod Sun, as we discussed on the Tana episode. Tana later said that it was not truly a throuple because they both were dating Bella separately and competing for her attention. In February 2019, Bella split with Tana and then in April of that year split with Maude's son. Both Tana and Maude's son then started dating each other, which infuriated Bella. She accused Tana of breaking girl code. In December 2020, she released her diss track, Stupid Fucking Bitch, with the lyrics, You Wanted Me For Clout and I Should Have Thrown You Out. Tana responded by using the song as a TikTok sound to mock it.

52:25Snark Bait Hosts:And some have accused her of using her bisexuality. You know, they accused her of being performative with it or queerbaiting with it, which I don't know. I haven't seen any real evidence that she is being performative with her sexuality. I think those accusations are actually kind of biphobic. It's like, what makes you think that a woman like Bella Thorne cannot be bisexual? Right. Who's to say what she, what her sexual orientation is? Right. Like, who are you to say that? That's weird. The term queerbaiting always bothers me because it's like, how do you like people say that about Harry Styles?

52:58Snark Bait Hosts:And it's like, what if Harry Styles is closeted? Like, that's his business. Like, how do you know that he's not queer? How do you know that he's not bi? It's like people don't know. Like, you can't accuse someone of queerbaiting when you really don't know what they actually are. And I totally understand why certain celebrities don't speak out about their sexuality because people are fucking weird. Yeah. And I think with Harry Styles, I know that there is the Larry rumors with him and Liam. Yeah. But I think those queerbaiting rumors stem from the way that Harry dresses at concerts. But it's like, and like the fluidity at which he dresses.

53:32Like sometimes we'll dress in a skirt. Sometimes we'll dress in a dress. But like the way that you dress doesn't necessarily inform your sexual orientation. Yeah. So that's what I don't, I agree. What I'm saying is I agree with you. Like I don't understand. And maybe there's other things that he has done and said that make people piss at him. But for me, it's mainly the way he dresses.

53:51Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah, I just think the queerbaiting thing is, I don't know. Again, it's like you don't really, you don't know. Like, how can you say that Harry Styles is queerbaiting when you really don't know his sexuality? He has never confirmed nor denied that he is sexually fluid. I will say someone that I feel like I don't want to say queerbaiting, but Olivia Ponton, who we discussed on our Joe Burrow episode, has said that she's identified as a lesbian before. but she is very famously dating the straightest person alive, Joe Burrow. Oh, really? Yeah, she is. I didn't know that. She is identified as a lesbian.

54:25Snark Bait Hosts:She's called herself a lesbian, and now she is publicly dating Joe Burrow, which is, people are like, are you really a lesbian? Because you're dating a man. So that is like, you know, you could argue that that is queer, Beatty, because for a while she was like, I'm a lesbian. Right, right. She wasn't even calling herself bi. She was calling herself a lesbian. Right. And now she's dating, you know, the straightest football player guy's guy. So. Yeah. And how dare she? You know, he's ours. He's he's mine. Yeah. OK, so, yeah, like I said, she broke up with Maud's son in 2019 and Maud's son claims they got engaged, married and divorced in 15 months.

55:01Snark Bait Hosts:But the wedding was apparently not legally binding. And he actually broke up with her on April 15th, the anniversary of her father's death, which is really sad. And Maud's son was 32 and she was 21 at the time. Weird. Also, this guy's breaking hearts left, right and center, hanging out with Tana and Bella. I know. And he's like not cute. There's nothing to sneeze about. So she has had a few other engagement eras. Benjamin Mascolo, they connected over Instagram in 2019 before meeting in person at Coachella. They went Instagram official in June of that year, and they were actually age appropriate.

55:36Snark Bait Hosts:He was 27 and she was 23. And he's actually won half of the Italian pop duo Benji and Fede. Fede? Fede? and um like palo and isabella yeah yeah in october 2019 while still with him bella announced a new girlfriend alex martini in a polyamorous arrangement benjamin was supportive apparently commenting you girls are cute but that fizzled by november 2019 benjamin proposed in march 2021 on the set of their film time is up with a pear-shaped diamond ring she actually bought him an engagement ring back but they broke up in june 2022 due to conflicting schedules She is currently engaged to Mark Ems, who is a 45-year-old British producer and entrepreneur.

56:18Snark Bait Hosts:She is 28, so not a great age gap there. He is CEO of Ems Productions, producer of Netflix's Bad Vegan, co-owner of NYC Bar, The Mulberry, etc., etc. They actually met at Cara Delevingne's birthday party in Ibiza in August 2022. Bella told Vogue it was love at first sight as the sun rose. Oh, to be at Cara Delevingne's birthday party in Ibiza. As the sun is rising. As the sun is rising. I'm assuming, yeah. Yeah. He proposed in May 2023 with a reportedly 10-plus-carat emerald-cut diamond. In August 2025, she proposed back to him. No wedding date is set, but she wants a countryside wedding at an English manor with vintage Schiaparelli or Dior gowns.

57:01Snark Bait Hosts:So, other scandals. And I wouldn't even categorize this one as a scandal, really. but in 2019 when she was 21 she posted on twitter that someone was threatening her with her own nudes so she posted a topless picture of herself and like i said i feel like she so often is trying to like reclaim the narrative reclaim her power and she said she was releasing the pictures because it's my decision and now you don't get to take yet another thing from me i can sleep tonight better knowing i took my power back you can't control my life you never will uh then whoopi Goldberg got involved. She was talking shit on The View and basically saying that you shouldn't have taken these pictures in the first place.

57:42Snark Bait Hosts:You're stupid for taking nude photos if you're a woman. Bella responded saying her comments were disgusting, wrote a huge thing on her Instagram stories. Whoopi Goldberg is high key a huge misogynist. She has the wrong take like 99.9 % of the time, I would say. I think she needs an episode. She has so many wrong takes and so many like just backwards views i would say yeah and this was recently no this was in 20 2019 yeah um really not like yeah i don't get but i don't give a shit what you're doing in your own spare time in your private life do whatever you want like yeah it's so unless you're not hurting anybody like who cares who gives a fuck yeah who literally who gives a fuck and it's so like you're blaming the woman here when she's the one that was getting blackmailed like why like she was getting blackmailed.

58:31Snark Bait Hosts:It's not like, oh God, whoopee Goldberg. She actually was due to go on The View after this, but she said she didn't feel like being beaten down by a bunch of older women. I don't blame her. She said, I don't want you guys talking about your views to young girls because I would not want my daughter to learn that. I would never say that to her. Yeah, good. Good for her. She was allegedly kicked out of a hotel in Park City for smoking weed in 2018, which is funny because 2018 was such a different time. It was. And I am always shocked when I travel to different states in the U.S. where marijuana is not legalized because it's so normalized in California.

59:06Yeah. And same with New York. Yeah, same with New York. And so I'm always just shocked. But it is no surprise that Park City, Utah...

59:14Snark Bait Hosts:Is Utah strict with weed? Like, I guess that makes sense. Like, are they still? I know this was 2018. I think it's heavily Mormon. And, you know, they don't even drink caffeine or coffee, rather. Park City, Utah legalization of marijuana. But that would make sense. It's against the law. It says like under... Yeah, even if you have less than an ounce, it's... Guys, I'm... It's only allowed for, under current Utah law, possession of as little as an ounce or less of marijuana can result in a six-month jail sentence. It's only allowed for medical purposes. Wow, I'm so curious, guys. Like, what U.S.

59:49Snark Bait Hosts:state are you in? It's just crazy to hear that some U.S. states it's still legal because they feel like it's so legal. But it's not, clearly. So let us know if you're in a U.S. state. Is it illegal where you are? I'm very curious. Yeah. As for my closing thoughts on Bella Thorne, first of all, I have heard from multiple people that have met her in person that she is extremely nice. I can totally see that. She is lovely. Absolute sweetheart. Like so many of my friends have met her just at like events in New York City, like just multiple people. And they all say the same thing, that she's so sweet, so warm.

1:00:23Snark Bait Hosts:She, like, gave her phone number to one of my friends and was like, I need new friends. Like, let's hang out. Like, she seems very nice. I also feel bad for her. Like, no one really takes her seriously as an actress slash director. I feel like the internet laughs at her a lot. But she's had, like, this very traumatic life and upbringing. And it makes me feel sad. Yeah. I think that she had a lot of really bad cards dealt to her. and to no fault of her own. Like she was literally born into poverty. Her mom was shoving her into the limelight along with all of her other siblings. She was forced to be the breadwinner at a very young age.

1:01:02She was sexually assaulted by pedophiles in the industry time and time again. Like how can you really be quote unquote normal with all those circumstances that you're given? Like she had no choices in those matters. She was a child when all that was happening to her. So I think she's doing her absolute best to make a name for herself and to be taken more seriously. And I'm genuinely rooting for her. Like, she's doing things that are maybe not conventionally, like, not a conventional way to earn money, being a director of a Pornhub movie, doing OnlyFans, things like that. People judge her for that.

1:01:33But it's like, it seems like that's the industry that she feels, again, the most comfortable in, oddly enough, because she's trying to take back control of what she didn't have control over.

1:01:43Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah, absolutely. And she was constantly, she was surrounded by predators from birth. Correct. Her, including her mom, her mom, she was sexually assaulted as a child. She was preyed on by people in, by men in Hollywood as a child. And like I said, I feel like this, it makes sense why she has tried to reclaim power with OnlyFans, with porn, with directing, etc. etc and it does seem like she's constantly reinventing herself and trying to find success in different arenas and it doesn't always stick but um maybe her pivot to director is going to be the one that finally sticks i don't know but i'm rooting for her i really am same she gives me good energy like i can just i can sense energy even on a page who she is she radiates just good vibes like a very damaged individual given what she's gone through but still she shows she tries to show up on top every time.

1:02:37Snark Bait Hosts:Yeah, I completely agree. So yeah, that is the tea on Bella Thorne. Like I said, she has a lot of lore and so many different traumatic, interesting things that have happened in her life. I really feel like she just has been through so much, like I said. So rooting for her. I really am. I came out of this liking her more than I did before I knew as much about her. Me too. I knew the top line stuff about Scott Disick, Tana, but not really all this other stuff. So you did a really good job walking us through it. And yeah, you guys, yesterday on Patreon, like we said, we talked about Haley Beck and her disgustingness being a predator to her high school student.

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