What’s the Snark on Harry Jowsey?

21 Aug 2025 · 1 h 4 min · 29 chapters

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In short

The Snark Bait episode covers who Harry Jowsey is, how he became a reality-TV/influencer star, and the controversies around his dating/behavior, framed through his traumatic upbringing and alleged “clout-chasing fuckboy” persona.

Guest backgrounds

The episode is hosted by Christy and Sophie (with producer Jordan). No outside guests are interviewed in the provided transcript.

Key claims

Jowsey rose to fame on Netflix’s Too Hot to Handle (2019; aired 2020), later expanded into Perfect Match, Dancing with the Stars, and multiple business ventures. Hosts allege he gaslights, love-bombs, cheats, and uses women for attention/clout. They connect his behavior to an upbringing involving an abusive, alcoholic father and his role protecting his mother, suggesting avoidant attachment patterns.

Notable examples

Heartbreak Island (2018) win; Too Hot to Handle rule-breaking kiss with Francesca Farrago and alleged gaslighting; Perfect Match secrecy with Jessica “Jess” Vestal and alleged love-bombing; Dancing with the Stars pairing with 18-year-old Riley Arnold while allegedly dating Jess; OnlyFans claims (hosts allege it’s mostly shirtless content); controversies including using an F-slur for James Charles and leaked OnlyFans.

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Chapters

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Reflecting on the Podcast Journey

0:00 to 0:30

Christy and Sophie discuss their growth and experiences since starting the podcast.

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Reflecting on the Podcast Journey

0:34 to 1:25

Christy and Sophie discuss their growth and experiences since starting the podcast.

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Reflecting on the Podcast Journey

1:54 to 3:56

Christy and Sophie discuss their growth and experiences since starting the podcast.

“How are you on this beautiful Friday afternoon?”

The Retreat Planning and Excitement

3:56 to 5:48

The hosts share their excitement for an upcoming retreat and their plans for it.

“Also, I was just, it's making me think back to that time period because it was a really stressful time in my life.”

Hotel Experiences and Requests

5:48 to 7:43

Christy and Sophie compare their approaches to hotel stays and requesting services.

“Like I asked for everything and they delivered because the West Hollywood edition is a stunning hotel.”

Introducing Harry Jowsey

7:43 to 9:28

The hosts begin discussing Harry Jowsey's background and rise to fame.

“I was like, Oh, we can go to CBS for my razor.”

Harry Jowsey's Reality TV Career

9:28 to 12:29

A deep dive into Harry Jowsey's reality TV journey and controversies.

“And so I'm excited to learn more about him because what I know about him is very surface level.”

The Evolution of Influencer Culture

12:29 to 14:00

Discussion on the influencer landscape and Harry Jowsey's unique position in it.

“He's dated so many influencers and been connected to some bigger names.”

Harry Jowsey's Rise and Work Ethic

14:00 to 15:24

Explore Harry Jowsey's relentless work ethic and multifaceted career.

“And he's always wanting to get some new opportunity.”

Harry's Troubled Upbringing

15:24 to 18:03

Delve into Harry's childhood and the impact of his father's abuse.

“He says that him and his brother, they really didn't get along.”
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Attachment Styles and Relationships

18:03 to 20:03

Discuss how attachment theory relates to Harry's behavior and relationships.

“They went into the barn and his dad was like laying on the ground passed out with like a bottle of empty vodka like on the ground.”

Harry's Reality TV Journey

22:00 to 24:40

Follow Harry's transition from reality TV to social media stardom.

“When he was 21, he first appeared on a New Zealand dating show called Heartbreak Island in 2018.”

The Evolution of Harry's Brand

24:40 to 28:00

Examine Harry's branding efforts, including merchandise and OnlyFans.

“And I bet you they still have boyfriend dick part of their merchandise line.”

Harry Jowsey's Reality Show Relationships

28:00 to 37:39

Explore the complex relationships and dynamics of Harry Jowsey in various reality shows.

“No, but now I want to because we have so many people from Love is Blind UK and Love is Blind US.”

Harry Jowsey's Reality Show Relationships

37:57 to 39:04

Explore the complex relationships and dynamics of Harry Jowsey in various reality shows.

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Harry Jowsey's Reality Show Relationships

39:10 to 40:27

Explore the complex relationships and dynamics of Harry Jowsey in various reality shows.

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Harry Jowsey's Reality Show Relationships

41:09 to 41:38

Explore the complex relationships and dynamics of Harry Jowsey in various reality shows.

Harry Jowsey's Relationship History

41:38 to 42:00

A look into Harry Jowsey's past relationships and the patterns of his dating life.

Harry Jowsey's Relationships and Gaslighting

42:00 to 45:30

Explore the tumultuous dating history of Harry Jowsey and insights into his behavior.

“He was also dating another Too Hot to Handle co-star named Madison Wyborny in 2019.”

Controversies and Public Image

45:30 to 50:40

Discusses various controversies surrounding Harry, including his statements and public behavior.

“I think they're both just very clout chasey and love attention and want to use each other to get clicks and views and will shamelessly do it.”

Cheating Allegations and Media Response

50:40 to 56:05

Analyzes the cheating allegations against Harry and his responses to them in media.

“things like for the plot or just to say you did or to get more clout or fame.”

Harry Jowsey's Relationships Unpacked

56:05 to 58:26

Discover the tumultuous relationships and controversies surrounding Harry Jowsey.

“And I was listening to an episode of the fucking Vile Files, which it was disgusting of him on it.”

Controversial Moments and Feuds

58:27 to 1:02:19

Explore Harry's public feuds and the controversies that shape his persona.

“And Harry's never shared any details about this.”

The Complexity of Harry's Persona

1:02:20 to 1:04:20

Analyze the complexities of Harry Jowsey's character and the impact of his upbringing.

“Like if you even go on TikTok and type his name, infinite number of podcasts that he started, infinite number of thirsty clips, thirsty TikToks, things with multiple women.”

Skincare and Personal Branding

1:04:21 to 1:05:46

Discuss Harry's ventures into skincare and the implications for his brand.

“Like I think a lot of people who are in this industry just want to phone it in and expect like great results.”

Skincare and Personal Branding

1:06:35 to 1:07:32

Discuss Harry's ventures into skincare and the implications for his brand.

“I've been a diehard TaskRabbit stan long before they were a sponsor.”

Skincare and Personal Branding

1:07:53 to 1:08:59

Discuss Harry's ventures into skincare and the implications for his brand.

“Having something that's lightweight, breathable, cool, and easy to sleep in no matter how hot it gets is so freaking important.”

Skincare and Personal Branding

1:09:08 to 1:10:22

Discuss Harry's ventures into skincare and the implications for his brand.

“Now available in Canada and the UK, too.”

Skincare and Personal Branding

1:11:09 to 1:11:27

Discuss Harry's ventures into skincare and the implications for his brand.

“I'm talking bold styles, cool kicks, backpacks, and even dorm room essentials.”
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Transcript

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1:28Christy Noel:Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Snark Bait. I'm Christy. I'm Sophie. And today we are covering Harry Jowsey. There's a lot to say about him. We are talking about his upbringing, his background, who he is, his reality TV career. It's prolific, by the way. His controversies, relationship history, and everything in between. So I guess let's get into it. Are you ready, Christy? Let's do it.

2:10Christy Noel:Hey, Sophie. How are you on this beautiful Friday afternoon? Evening for you. Yes, it is Friday evening, August 8th. And yeah, this is what I do on Friday nights now. So this is my and we're having a marathon night where we are banking a couple episodes. So, yeah, I'm all settled in and work has just been crazy this week. So I am very excited. It's the weekend. How are you doing, Christy? There's nowhere I'd rather be than with you, Jordan, our producer and the beautiful, cool, smart baby snarks. and yeah I was just thinking we were kind of commiserate not commiserating that's not the right word we were thinking and talking about on earlier this morning when we were recording our patreon episode that it's been nearly in a year of snark bait I know it makes me like emotional it's so crazy it is really crazy to to think about we've come so far and there's still so much road ahead of us.

3:17Christy Noel:And it's really just crazy to think about how much has changed over the last year. Like we went from one episode a week to two episodes a week. Now we're recording three episodes a week. I was texting Sophie. I'm like, do we need to record more minisodes? Yeah. You guys, if you've been a day one baby snark, if you listened to our first episode when we dropped it, let us know in like the Spotify comments on our Instagram, or if you discovered us and you binged all of our episodes. I just want to know if you guys have like listened to our early episodes. I'm so curious. Who's OG? I wonder what percentage of our current listener base is OG versus not.

3:58Yeah. Also, I was just, it's making me think back to that time period because it was a really stressful time in my life. So it was a perfect time to launch a podcast. I was in the middle of moving and also in the middle of wedding planning. And then I got married and then And I remember when I came back from getting married and you're like, how are you doing? Like anyway. And I was like, Christy, are you going to ask about my wedding? Like I literally just got married this weekend. You were like, oh yeah.

4:25Christy Noel:I was like, oh yeah, that. No, but at that point, like you and I weren't as close, which is crazy. It's so crazy how you were at my wedding. It makes me really upset. No, it is really weird. And I don't know if a lot of people know this and we've talked about this on a couple episodes, but Sophie and I have met two times. Once. When I once when we went to L.A. for the photo shoot. OK, you're right. And now we're going to be together again next week, which I'm very excited about. Christy has been planning our retreat and made a little itinerary. I was like she was like anything else I should add.

4:58So I'm still kind of reading it. But it says serve cunt for like the dress code. And I was like, how much cunt do you want me to serve? Because cunt can be served. You just have to tell me on like a scale of one to ten, because like how much?

5:11Christy Noel:By the time this episode comes out, we will have already had our LA retreat. We had Rachel, Jordan and Olivia come to LA. So we are in the past right now. But you were my inspiration because when we were discussing your Portugal trip a couple weeks back, you go, you know, I told my brother in law I wanted to serve. Oh, yeah, I told my brother in law I wanted to serve cunt and you know he was like come again what did you say he didn't know what that meant so funny so I was like playing around with some of the words and you and Rachel and Olivia are more the marketers me and Jordan are a little bit more BTS but I was like god does this sound stupid and I was like you know what that sounds just about right enter perfect yeah so I am very excited there's some goodies in the back if you guys are watching on YouTube that Jordan our producer cannot see because it's for the girly pops and I am so excited to see you for the second time and oh my god I just remembered too Sophie and I first met it was the first time we met since we started this show since we've ever met actually and when we were I think we've talked about this but when we were at the West Hollywood edition I kept calling the front desk because like we needed things I was like we need a steamer we need a clothing rack like we need waters everything you could think of.

6:32Christy Noel:We needed like a fucking ice pack. We need a cooler. Like I asked for everything and they delivered because the West Hollywood edition is a stunning hotel. And when I was at the Drift Nashville with Shannon McNamara of Fluently Ford, the amount of times I was texting the front desk and I sent it to Sophie. It's like, I'm back, baby. Oh, yeah, because I was like, Christy, like you never let them rest. And I think maybe it's like I've talked about how I feel like people on the Coast, the coastal elites are very different from like Midwesterners in terms of I get like a little a little shy about asking for things.

7:06I'm like very, oh, excuse me. I'm so sorry to bother you, which might be surprising if you listen to this podcast. It is surprising. Yeah, but it's true. But Christy like has no qualms about being like, I need a razor stat room 431. And yeah, she she sent me a screenshot of her just like nonstop texting the people from last weekend when she was in Nashville.

7:27Christy Noel:So who are you? Are you a Christy or Sophie? Yeah. Are you a Christy or Sophie? Do you, do you bother the fuck out of the hotel you're staying at because you need so many different things and you have no qualms about asking for them? Or are you just like, Oh, I can deal. I'll go to CBS. Like that was my plan. I was like, Oh, we can go to CBS for my razor. Christy was like, why would you go to CBS? They have them here. You just have to ask. it's like oh my god no like this is the hack if you are traveling and you don't want to like sometimes i find okay i'm just gonna say this is a dark energy object and i know it's not to say when i travel i don't like packing my toothbrush it grosses me out because it's like wet oh it gets wet and like you feel like it's like moldy yeah yeah no no exactly no thank you i completely get that i still do it yeah because you never know for sure if the place you're going will 100 % have a toothbrush, the nice place as well.

8:18Christy Noel:Yes, exactly. But usually if I'm staying at a nice place, I just know I will not bring my toothbrush because I'm like, they'll have a dental kit on site.

8:28Christy Noel:Oh my God. Are you seriously calling them again? Like, why are you doing that? You're calling them again? She would not let them rest. I had it. Thank God we didn't have a phone. So Shannon didn't know I was texting the front desk all night. But in any case, I'm really excited to be talking about this influencer today. This, I don't even know if you want to call him like an influencer or celebrity because he's really ascended across influencership, whether or not you want to admit it or not. We're talking about the one and only Harry Jowsey. And ahead of the recording, we were talking with Jordan and Sophie.

9:01Christy Noel:And I was like, God, I hate to say it, but I kind of like him. And they were like, ugh. I know. And Christy was like, can I say what you said? Yeah. Christy was like, this is why I'm single because these are the fucking guys that I go for. And I was like, seek help for that. Yeah, it's like, I'm unhelpful, to be very clear. I'm excited to learn more about him because you have listened to a bunch of podcasts that he's been on. You have like really dug deep into his upbringing. And so I'm excited to learn more about him because what I know about him is very surface level. Like he's a fuck boy. Yeah, and I think he's kind of been able to build a career off of the backs of women, honestly, which is not great.

9:43Christy Noel:That is what I do not like about him. I think he's really been able to clout chase his way to the top. But because he's tall and objectively handsome, he has an Australian accent. He's gotten so much clout independently now. So who is Harry Jowsey? If you are unfamiliar, you might know him as the crazy rule breaker bad boy. Originally on Netflix's Too Hot to Handle, which filmed in 2019. It was the first season of Too Hot to Handle. And it aired during the pandemic in 2020. That's when I was first introduced to him and Francesca Farrago. Did you watch Too Hot to Handle? No, I never. And I love what is Henry doing?

10:20I'm sorry. Henry just got home. So I told him to close the door. Oh, did I watch Too Hot to Handle? No, I did not.

10:28Christy Noel:OK, well, I'm glad you didn't watch Too Hot to Handle because it was it was horrible. Basically, that's what I heard. It's stupid. The premise of the show was there's this Alexa type of app that her name is Lana. and she instructs the people on the show to do these activities or challenges. But the whole thing of the show is Lana would instruct these contestants on the show to do these challenges. But the whole premise of the show was there was a$100 ,000 prize pot at the end. And in order for them to collect the entire prize pot, I think it was 100 ,000 across like 12 fucking members. So it wasn't that much at the end of the day.

11:01Christy Noel:It's still a lot, don't get me wrong, but not something humongous. But every time they would physically touch one another of a person they were interested in at the quote unquote villa, money would be deducted from the prize pot. So him and Francesca Farrago became like breakout stars from the show because they were, I guess, objectively maybe the most attractive and the biggest couple to come out of the show. And they later dated. But that's how he first got his shot at reality television and his relationship with Netflix, honestly. He later parlayed his reality TV success into Perfect Match, Dancing with the Stars and various other reality shows.

11:34Christy Noel:And now, of course, in 2025, he's about to be the star of this show that's going to be produced by Netflix and the Unwell Network called Let's Marry Harry. He has multiple businesses. He has a merch line called Naughty Possums. He used to be and still kind of does OnlyFans, though I've heard from audiences that it's kind of like a scam. He doesn't really do much on OnlyFans. He doesn't do full frontal. Yeah, it's like shirtless pics. He has a skincare line called Pash, P-A-S-H, and he now has a podcast under the Unwell network called Boyfriend Material. And he currently touts over 4 million followers on Instagram, over 5 million on TikTok and a little under 200k on YouTube.

12:17Christy Noel:He's had many a controversy such as calling James Charles the F slur. He had a leaked OnlyFans. He's had multiple, multiple cheating scandals. And just overall, as you mentioned, he's a general fuckboy. He's dated so many influencers and been connected to some bigger names. I just mentioned Francesca, Georgia Hassarotti, who was also his contender on Too Hot to Handle, Jessica Vestal, who was on Love is Blind and later did a stint on Perfect Match with Harry. He was rumored to have been linked with Tana Mongeau, Stassi Baby, who's Kylie's best friend, Larsa Pippin, most recently Lucy Hale and Sia, LOL.

12:54Christy Noel:well. And there's been a lot of allegations about his hookups with potentially Miley Cyrus, although he said that's not true. And Nikita Dragon, who is a transgender woman. I think the really interesting thing about Harry Jowsey's career that's unlike a lot of these like thotty hype house type boys in LA, I think the influencer market was so saturated in 2020. We had the hype house, we had Addison Rae, we had Charlie D 'Amelio, like those kinds of young, teeny bopper people. and a lot of them have kind of faded I don't want to say faded into oblivion but they kind of all I don't know what they're doing now like Josh Richards I guess does BFF's podcast Bryce Hall is kind of like still a tiktoker where did Charlie D 'Amelio go I mean I don't know and I wasn't really following her to begin with maybe she's still kind of is around but yeah I don't know I know that Addison Rae now has her music career and like kind of a cult following that people that like sleaze and people like ironically like her but then some people unironically like her but charlie d 'amelio i know that she is doing broadway and stuff but she kind of there was a point where she was literally everywhere and i think that her crazy parents made like a series of bad decisions yeah and unfortunately so did addison's ray's father remember that and she kind of went into hiding for years and now she's come back up but you have all these young people that came up kind of faded a bit into oblivion but harry has only just ascended and i wonder what that's about i don't know if it's because he dips his feet into so many different endeavors not only is he a netflix reality star he was on dancing with the stars he's like bffs with alex cooper i've heard from like many podcasters who have worked with him people in the industry he is like really fucking he works really fucking hard say what you want about Harry Jousey, his work ethic is like bar none, like very fucking strong.

14:46Christy Noel:And he's always wanting to get some new opportunity. Call it thirsty, call it clout chasey, but like the guy hustles. And I think he really cares about his brand and launching into new business endeavors. And I don't think he necessarily rests on his laurels. And we'll talk more about where I think that stems from. And I think a lot of his, the way that he behaves today, I think is very much informed by his upbringing and his very, very significantly traumatizing relationship with his father, who actually just passed away less than a year ago as we sit here today in August 2025. So let's get into it.

15:26Christy Noel:What is his background? He is an Australian native. He has one full brother. He says that him and his brother, they really didn't get along. Like growing up, he wasn't close really at all with any of his siblings. He has one brother and four half sisters. So his father was originally married to one woman. They had four daughters together. They divorced. Then Harry's father married Harry's mother. They had Harry and his brother. When he talks about his siblings, it's very much like, yeah, I'm not close to them at all. Yeah, I don't really like them. And it's like, huh, that's really interesting.

15:56Christy Noel:And I get the sisters thing. He says that his sisters are much older than him. And I get like when you're growing up in different households and you're totally different ages, that 100 % makes sense. And I also think the fact that they had different moms, it may have just been like a little bit more of a distant relationship. This brother, he describes that his brother was always like kind of a nerd, was into musical theater, was really athletic. Harry, on the other hand, was just a troublemaker in school, which like totally is unsurprising. He went to a boarding school, I think, in New Zealand at one point because he got kicked out, expelled from his school in Australia.

16:28Christy Noel:Wow. For just being a menace. And he didn't always describe himself as being like this player, like hotshot. He was just a fucking menace. And he was stirring up a lot of trouble. And he describes his childhood as like he knows he came from like a bit of a more fortunate family. I don't gather that he's like super wealthy. But I think his family like did well enough to be able to support like six children or his father did. And he describes his father's work ethic as being like really, really strong. And he's like, my father is a piece of shit. He said this before his father passed away on multiple podcasts that I've listened to, but he's like, I admire the one thing about him is his work ethic.

17:03Christy Noel:And I think that's what's really been passed down to me. But interestingly enough, or sadly enough, Harry's father divorced his first wife where they had the four daughters because his dad was a severe alcoholic. Struggled severely with addiction, with painkillers, with medication, like abusing medications, alcoholism, with sufferings from cirrhosis. I'm not sure exactly what the diagnosis was that ultimately killed his father in like his 80s, I think. But he just had a lot of demons. And not only was he an alcoholic and a struggling alcoholic, but he would beat the shit out of his wives. So Harry said with his first wife, he beat the shit out of her.

17:42Christy Noel:The daughters hated him for beating the shit out of their mother. He divorces the first wife, gets married to Harry's mom. He said that it was so traumatic sometimes that his mom would, he would wake up. his dad would yank him out of bed and just start allowing harry to watch his father beat the shit out of their mother he even said there was one time that he would wake up harry and his brother and he started beating the shit out of his brother with a log like he got a log and beat the brother and he said this very nonchalantly on violet benson's i think that's her name daddy issues on her podcast and he goes he says it so like flippantly and like just nonchalantly and violet Benson goes oh my god that sounds really traumatic he's like I mean yeah it's just part of my story and he said you know my dad suffered so heavily with alcohol abuse as well so he was always in and out of rehab and sometimes he would like escape rehab or sometimes he would be admitted into the hospital for like cirrhosis and he would make friends with a nurse and then he'd like take out all the IVs and just like run away he was like oh my god and he said one time they thought that his dad was in rehab and I guess they went into the barn because they lived on this like huge acreed farm with like pigs and chickens and horses or whatever.

18:50Christy Noel:They went into the barn and his dad was like laying on the ground passed out with like a bottle of empty vodka like on the ground. Just like really traumatic. And he describes that the reason he's so close with his mom is because all he wanted to do was protect his mom from his abusive father. That makes sense. Have you ever read the book Attached? Or do you are you familiar with the attachment styles like secure? Yes. Okay. Yes, I am familiar. I never read the book, though. What they say about avoided attachment styles. And if you guys are unfamiliar, like secure people are usually with secure people.

19:21Christy Noel:And because they are secure in their love and our attachment styles, they're typically out of the dating pool. And the people that are left in the dating pool are typically avoidant attachment styles and anxious attachment styles. And a lot of the reason you become a certain type of attached is your upbringing. And it makes a lot of sense why Harry would display a lot of avoidant attachment styles because they say avoidance typically were like caregivers of usually a parent at a young age. And because he felt almost put into a situation where he, of course, he was had to be a caregiver for his mom who was being perpetually abused by his father.

19:54Christy Noel:As they grow older, they don't want to be constrained by anything because they were so constrained to be a caregiver at a young age that they just want to avoid, avoid, avoid any form of love. So I think it makes so much sense why he has this fuckboy persona, because all he did was just be this almost like not a father figure, but like a husband figure to his mom almost out of necessity. And so it makes sense why if he wasn't given like a childhood, he wants to act out and be alone forever. It made so much sense to me when I was hearing about his childhood. I'm like, oh my God, that's exactly why he is the way he is.

20:24Christy Noel:And I'm not excusing his behavior and the way he's treated many a girlfriend on TV and how he's been absolutely like mentally abusive to a lot of these women. But what I'm just saying is you kind of understand where that comes from. Yeah, definitely. It definitely informs how he is now. Yeah, exactly.

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22:03Christy Noel:When he was 21, he first appeared on a New Zealand dating show called Heartbreak Island in 2018. And he won the season with a contestant named Georgia, and they split the 100k prize. And then of course, he had his big breakout season on Too Hot to Handle. Again, like the premise of the show is you have to stay celibate and not touch anyone in a sexual way. Otherwise, the money is deducted. And like, and it's basically like they're so hot and they're all single. So it's like so hard to resist. Yes. That's the premise. Right. And I remember the episode that kind of made him blow up as a reality star was him and Francesca decided to make out, obviously, against the show's rules.

22:41Christy Noel:And when it came out that they had kissed, Harry completely gaslit the entire rest of the cast and said, no, no, no, Francesca kissed me. And Francesca kept saying like, what are you talking about? You kissed me. But he was lying so openly. and freely and so confidently. And that's when everyone was like, dude, this guy's a psychopath. Like we literally all just saw what we all saw on our screens. Obviously the contestants didn't see that, but that's our first taste of Harry just being a lying, cheating freak. Oh my God, I feel like I need to watch it now. I know that I'm like late to the game, but this sounds fun.

23:13Christy Noel:No, it's not good. It felt really low. I wouldn't waste your time. But he and Frankie left as the biggest stars and they left as a couple, but they were off and on. They broke up in June, 2020. They were long distance. She lived in Vancouver. He moved to LA to become a huge star on social media and the rest is history. So post Too Hot to Handle, he was a huge star. And he started a YouTube and a podcast called Tap In with Harry Jowsey. And the log line of this podcast was relationships, advice, sex, drama, gossip. Harry interviews his best friends in the world and some of the most interesting people.

23:50Christy Noel:And obviously that podcast was later rebranded to Unwell's boyfriend material. He had this hoodie on his merch line called Naughty Possums and the hoodie read BF Dick. Who's wearing that? Why? Like, is it the boy that's wearing it? Well, I guess it would be the boy, but that's such a weird thing to don. Boyfriend Dick. So it's like boyfriend material, but like boyfriend Dick. Yeah, but what differentiates boyfriend Dick versus... It's just very strange. Yeah, like I don't even get... I don't get it. I don't get it either. I think that's why I never heard about his merch line until the research for this episode.

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24:30Christy Noel:But in 2021, obviously, he became this kind of well-sought-after male in the reality TV show scene. Wait, can I just say one thing? The fact that Unwell Network now sells his merch. Oh my God. She fucking would. She would. And I bet you they still have boyfriend dick part of their merchandise line. I'm sure. I'm not going to check. Not going to check. I'm not going to give the website clicks. I'm not giving them clicks. I'm also on my work computer. Can you imagine? Oh, my God. Boyfriend, dick. In 2021, he joined OnlyFans. And by 2022, he claimed that he made$3 million from it. And he said that he once made$100K in 24 hours on OnlyFans.

25:09Christy Noel:And allegedly, this was due to a video that filmed him having sex with a woman. Oh, my God. I know. Again, a lot of people say that it's a scam, that he only posts shirtless pics. There's this Reddit user called Ladder Professional 13 saying, I've heard many times from people that purchase his OnlyFans that it's 100 % a scam. And even the private photos that say XXX that require you to pay money are just shirtless pics. I'm ready for him to be done with OnlyFans altogether. But I guess now he's phased out of OnlyFans to focus on acting. And a couple of the podcast episodes I've listened to, he like really wants to be a serious actor.

25:43Christy Noel:He's like, I want to dedicate mindfulness and true art to the craft. I don't want to make a mockery of it. So I really want to become an actor. I have a question. Have we ever, because I feel like I hear about this a lot. Reality stars often because they're so, they become obsessed with being on TV, you know? Yes. They're like, I want to be an actor. Like Carl Radke from Summer House had like a phase where he like maybe wanted to be an actor. I feel like Nick Vile at one point, it's still, I think Nick Vile to this day. Has there ever been one instance of, and I'm not talking Kyle Richards who did acting before she was on reality TV.

26:20Christy Noel:I'm on Halloween 1982. Yeah, like literally. Has there ever been a successful transition for a reality star from reality TV to like the silver screen or even just acting? I want to say Addison Rae when she did She's All That and she did some like kind of campy horror film. But she was like a TikToker, not like a reality star. True, true, true, true. reality star? Oh my God. I can't think of it at the top of my head, but I'm actually curious. There's probably one that we're not thinking of. Kim Kardashian, maybe, because she's getting more into acting. But still, it's like, that's different because it's Kim K.

26:59But it's like, once I feel like people, you're a reality star, like people know you too well. You can't disappear into a role anymore. Like we know you. We watch you as who you usually are as a person.

27:11Christy Noel:That's a great point. Like if we say we've seen Leo in every single one of his movies, that are like Oscar worthy, whatever. But we don't know who Leo really is. Like we know the blinds and everything, but you know what I mean? He doesn't show his personality. Imagine Leo on Too Hot to Handle. Harry Jowsey could do The Revenant, but Leonardo DiCaprio could not do Too Hot to Handle. I would love to see Leo on a reality show just to see how he interacts with women because like he's had steez obviously since he was like 15, but I'm sure he's like actually so awkward. Oh yeah, I can totally see that.

27:45Christy Noel:But fast forward to 2023 and Netflix became this big player in the reality television, like dating space. Before we only had The Bachelor. Now we have Love is Blind. We have the chat, not the challenge, but different, like perfect match. All these other dating shows where you take people from various shows, put them on a single show and you have yourself the show that is the perfect match. And did you ever watch the show? No, but now I want to because we have so many people from Love is Blind UK and Love is Blind US. And I watch all Love is Blind. Yeah. So I'm like, I feel like I should watch it now.

28:16Christy Noel:Yeah, I would say it's definitely better than Too Hot to Handle. But the reason Harry caused so much chaos on that show was because he was a breakout star from Too Hot to Handle. Jess from Love is Blind from the Charlotte, North Carolina season was a breakout star of her season. They get together on this show. And interestingly enough, what I need to point out is during the filming of Perfect— Wait, which one? Jessica? Yeah, the one who lost to the guy who dated Chelsea who said she was Megan Fox. Yes, yes. I think Jessica, yeah. Jessica, yeah. She was like the stunning, like Kardashian-almost looking.

28:44The mom. She had a, yeah.

28:46Christy Noel:Yeah. So she was like the biggest star from Netflix, I think almost ever, besides Harry. And interestingly enough, when they were filming Perfect Match, she had already obviously filmed Love is Blind. So they picked her out of Love is Blind, plopped her on Perfect Match. But when they were filming Perfect Match, Love is Blind had not even aired yet. In fact, months after Perfect Match wrapped filming, they still hadn't aired Love is Blind. So Harry and Jess were in this secret relationship while he was filming Dancing with the Stars, which obviously we'll get into his Dancing with the Stars in just a moment here.

29:18Christy Noel:But the whole issue with him on that show, which was heavily problematic, was he love-bombed her to the nth degree. He kept telling her how much he wanted to be with her in the long haul. He wanted to show respect for her because he knew that Jessica's daughter would be watching this. As we all know, as Sophie just mentioned, Jess has like a 12 year old or 13 year old daughter. And he kept alluding to how proud he wanted to make Jess's daughter without ever meeting the daughter. And people found that to be a little bit love bombing. Like, why do you keep referring to this woman's daughter, a daughter of whom you've never met and you've just met this woman for like all of two weeks?

29:52Christy Noel:But he was very into her and it was very clear that she was into him. But Jess knew the M.O. that Harriet had. And on the show, Harry had mentioned there's so many Netflix reality stars are going to be coming through that door. It's kind of like Love Island. He's like, I fucked every single reality star there is. Who else is there that's going to walk through the door? Because I know for a fact that I've already had sex with them. Like, he admits this openly. Yes. And like, those were his words. It's gross. There's nothing wrong with being sexually liberated, but it makes me feel like he has like Jax Taylor volcano dick.

30:24Christy Noel:I have no doubt. on Perfect Match, there was a day where they had the guy separated from the women, and they put in this new flood of women on Guys Day. And there was a contestant named Melinda Melrose, and Harry admits - That's a fake name. Melinda Melrose? That's not a real person. It does sound kind of like an OnlyFans name, huh? Yeah, it does. It does. She was this woman from another Netflix reality show. And Harry admits that that day on the guys day where the new flock of girls come in, he's like, I got so fucked up. And Harry is interesting with his relationship with alcohol. He's discussed in podcasts how much he detests alcohol because of the way that it made his father behave around his mom and how every time he drank, he was scared that he was going to basically relive all the traumatic memories from his father and have history repeat itself.

31:16Christy Noel:So he often on podcasts will say, oh, I've been sober for 13 months. And then he'll say, oh, I just started drinking again. I've noticed that in like many of podcasts that I've listened to. He has a very interesting relationship, which understandably with alcohol. But on this particular scene, he got fucking hammered. And in the scene, he lifts up Melissa and her legs are wrapped around his waist. Melinda. But yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Melinda. And they make out and it's shown on camera. and a couple of the girls, the new flock of girls that had come in that day, basically tell Jess that, hey, just letting you know, yesterday this happened and Henry's going to tell you it's a lie, but we're all telling you it's true.

31:57Christy Noel:And Melinda, she's a black woman and she's like, look at the footage. There was dark makeup all over his face. Like you cannot deny that we were making out. And Jess kept saying, Henry, tell me the truth. And he's like, no, nothing happened. He was so pushy about it never having happened, gaslighting everyone who had seen it, including Melinda, who was like, are you joking? Like, your tongue was in my throat. And you kept saying, like, I want to, he was saying nasty things to Melinda on the show. Like, I want to fuck you right now. Oh, my God. Crazy things. And Jess broke up with him on the show, but they later got back together.

32:30Christy Noel:And this is when they had to keep their relationship a secret. And this is what I'm saying. Love is Blind had not yet aired. And so they had to keep their relationship a secret because, again, Love is Blind hadn't aired. And neither had Perfect Match. So right after Perfect Match, Harry gets this gig to go on Dancing with the Stars in 2023, late 2023. And he was paired with 18-year-old Riley Arnold, who's one of the real dancers on the show that's paired with a celebrity. 18. 18. 18. And she's a cute little blonde girl. They clearly had a lot of chemistry on the dance floor. Just they seem to be really compatible and really suitable for one another.

33:07Christy Noel:And I remember when all this was going down, thinking they were in a relationship and thinking, oh, my God, they're dating. And it really went to a head when he was spotted with Riley at a Tate McRae concert in 2023 while they were filming Dancing with the Stars. And obviously, like, I remember when Alexis Ren was on Dancing with the Stars back in, like, 2018, 2019. And she, too, was publicly paired with her partner. I think his name was Ellen. Thank you, Jordan. When people think you're in a couple, they're more likely to vote for you. So it's very likely that both he and Riley were doing this for clout.

33:38Christy Noel:It's still very unclear whether or not, like, they actually were together. but behind the scenes this entire time while he was filming Dancing with the Stars, he was in a full-blown relationship with Jess because he had just got off of Perfect Match. Once Perfect Match aired, we find out that Jess had broken up with him on the show. They had gotten back swiftly together after they left the Perfect Match Villa but she was heartbroken because she had to watch him play her on national TV and she couldn't say a thing because no one knew they were together at that time. And she said, you know, I would ask him, I would love to come to fly out to LA.

34:09Christy Noel:I want to meet Riley. I want to hang out with you. and he would say, yeah, yeah, yeah, come. And then like last minute, sorry, you can't come. Or just like make excuses. And they were fully together. He was like, I want to marry you. I want to have kids with you. Oh my God. Can you imagine? It's publicly humiliating and to not be able to say anything either must be horrible for Jess. Oh my God. It's just very messy. Just like fucking psycho. Yeah. And he gets away with it because again, this is just his MO. He uses, abuses, when I say abuse, like mentally abuses, uses and mentally abuses women, gaslights them, love bombs them.

34:48Christy Noel:And then he goes on a date like the next hot thing. Because he has clout. This relationship also kind of reminds me of Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney. Remember? It was like, well, we're doing this because it's good. You know, it's good for the movie. It's good for the show. Oh, exactly. Exactly. It's the more I mean, PR relationships are a tale as old as time. Like this has been happening since like the 80s and 90s. I remember listening to a Dumois podcast with Jerry Maguire and he was talking about a red carpet he did in the 80s. And he explained that one of his publicists forced him to walk the carpet with one of his co-stars.

35:27Christy Noel:He's like, and we knew what it was for. Who's Jerry Maguire? No, sorry, not Jerry Maguire. Oh, my God. Are you talking about Jerry? Jerry Maguire is that movie. Yeah, Jerry O 'Connor's the first. Oh my God. Dumb and dumber, you guys. It's been a long fucking day. I feel like I know who you're talking about. Jerry O 'Connell. It's like the guy that looks like Tom Cruise. Jerry O 'Connell? Fuck, I don't remember, honestly. But in any case, he, yeah, let's just pretend it's Jerry O 'Connell. I don't know who it is. But he basically said that he was forced by his publicist to go walk a carpet with this woman he was not interested in.

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41:37Christy Noel:so let's talk about his relationship he's had many a relationship and like i'll just briefly touch on them georgia briars as i mentioned he had won that 2018 heartbreak island show with he was with francesca farrago for two years off and on between 2019 to 2021 francesca farrago was a queen she now is married to a transgender man and they have babies and she seems very happy. He was also dating another Too Hot to Handle co-star named Madison Wyborny in 2019. Again, he goes off and on. He flips between women that he's been with to new women and back again to the old women. He was dating her in 2019 and he allegedly broke up with her in February 2020 to get back with Frankie.

42:22Christy Noel:According to him, he just says, oh, we just hooked up a couple of times, but he felt like Madison's friends were testing him and he had to end it because there were rumors being spread by Madison's friends that he was denying them ever being in a relationship. And he's like, we weren't. But her friends were all like, shut the fuck up. Yes, you were. Madison claimed that it was actually Harry that wanted a serious relationship. So again, he just always loves to say, no, the girl was way more into it than I am. And all of her friends are like, no. He's such a gaslighter. Yeah, I think that's a common thread amongst this entire thing.

42:53Christy Noel:Yeah. And he's like a very convincing, like, liar. and the term and adjective I've heard many women on these podcasts describe him as time and time again charming yeah yep can totally see that he's charming also again tall and has an accent yeah one of my friends a couple months ago she was in New York City for a work event and she texted me she goes I think that Netflix reality star is in my hotel lobby and I go oh my god is it Harry Jowsey she's like yeah that's the one is he cute she's like very ordinary looking just like very tall so i see why people pay attention to him yeah it's like austin krull yeah exactly do i like him or is he just tall he also dated julia rose are you familiar with julia rose by the way i don't think so okay so she's very much in the logan paul jake paul like elissa violet kind of group she's an instagram model a podcaster and he dated julia rose in october 2020 before julia cheated on harry with jake paul according to what harry alleges in the bffs podcast in 2021 he says that there was one night that he went to vegas with julia and she wanted to get married to him there they were super fucked up he like professed his love to julia he said i want you to be my girl and then he claims that that very night that he and julia were expressing their love for one another she went and hooked up with jake that night she's like he's like yeah she went and got like railed by jake paul that night so i was pissed and then i hooked up with jake's girl in Miami.

44:20Christy Noel:Him and Jake have a weird thing going on. They have beef. Yes. Julia cheated on Harry with Jake. Then Harry says he went on and hooked up with Jake's next girl, whomever that is. And then Harry also admitted to cheating with Jake's current girlfriend. They just had this like dick measuring contest constantly, which like doesn't surprise me. Loser on loser crime. Who's worse? Harry or Jake? It's hard to choose. It's really hard to choose. I'm just going to say Jake and the only reason I'm saying this is are we going to forget that the FBI raided Jake Paul's house in 2020 and there were like machine guns there correct yeah okay yeah you're right Jake for sure actually that's we need to do a whole Jake Paul episode I know we've done a Logan Paul episode but there's a lot of lore with Jake yeah I feel like we need to give Jake his moment in the sun agreed so this whole Jake v Harry situation set the stage for the Harry and Tana Mojo alliance and Tana as we know was very close with Jake I think that was where I kind of recognized Tana's name was when her and Jake Paul had that fake wedding do you remember this yes I do remember that and I had no idea who these people were I just know they were YouTubers but I was like okay they're getting married but it's like actually fake but whatever Harry and Tana have had this weird friendship and he swears to God as does Tana that they've never hooked up he's like no no like Like I think really they have not hooked up.

45:45Christy Noel:I think they're both just very clout chasey and love attention and want to use each other to get clicks and views and will shamelessly do it. So I actually think they're kind of a match made in heaven if you ask me. Yeah. In 2020, he kind of raised the bar and he was seen with Stassi Baby and Stassi Karin. I cannot say her last name. You guys know who I'm talking about. Kylie Jenner's BFF. and I remember when they were seen leaving a club in LA, like early 2020 or maybe it was in 2021 and this was right after he had split with Francesca Farrago. Their relationship was never fully confirmed because Saucy keeps her dating life pretty private.

46:19Christy Noel:It seems like they were kind of just hooking up but it really shows that Harry keeps upping the ante. First he's seen with like thirsty influencers like Francesca Farrago at the time. Then he's seen with Julia Rose who's like a YouTube elite if you stand against Jake Paul who just from a numbers perspective is YouTube royalty. Now he's getting closer to the Kargeners, which brings you up to a whole other level. Remember when Stassi maybe dated Noah Centineo? Oh my God, how could I forget? So you want to show me how you squirt or what? Why? And who else? No, no, he dated Alexis Ren also, but she has interesting, I feel like, taste.

47:02Yeah, yeah.

47:03Christy Noel:Just fuck boy. But they all kind of have sex with the same people. That same year in 2020, when he was spotted with Saucy Baby, he also was rumored to be hanging out with Larsa Pippin in October 2020. They were spotted having dinner together, Beverly Hills, and makes Larsa 20 years older than Harry, which actually comes to no surprise now when we think about Marcus Jordan, right? Larsa is always at the scene of the crime. Yeah, because it's at this point in 2020, did she have her fallout with the Carter Jenners at this point? I think, yeah, right? I think yes. I want to say their fallout was around like 2018.

47:38I will have to fact check that.

47:40Christy Noel:That sounds right. Because I remember when Benny Joma used to do those Kardashian skits on Instagram. I remember living in San Francisco and watching those skits. And he was like, Larsa, what are you doing here? Larsa? It was actually it does say it was around 2020, actually. But that's when fans noticed. So it probably happened way before that. Yeah. Yeah. In 2021, Harry went on the BFFs podcast and admitted to Josh Richards and Dave Portnoy that, yes, he did hook up with transgender YouTube and YouTuber and model Nikita Dragon. And this came swiftly after this James Charles controversy where he publicly called James Charles the F-slur.

48:24Christy Noel:And so people were speculating, was this a strategic move to save face from his claims of being homophobic? Okay. Can we, I don't remember that happening with James Charles. What was the context of him using that word when talking about James Charles? So in October, 2021, there was audio leaked of Harry using a homophobic slur in an episode of his podcast when he was still doing tap in with Harry Jowsey. And so he was referring to James Charles as the F slur while talking about how James once flirted with him. Okay. This is what it was. So he, he says, James Charles is trying to fuck me. The makeup artist, you don't know who he is then he goes oh he's that f slur and the slur was originally cut from the podcast but it later surfaced online obviously oh my god and this was in 2021 when james charles he i mean he still is big he had 24.5 million subscribers on youtube and at this point the two had likely crossed paths like they're all on that same and la influencer scene and harry had to address it on ig live and in a statement to tmz because you have to remember this was like before dancing with the stars he was kind of still like this too hot to handle random thirsty cloud chaser which he still is but he wasn't at the degree that he was yeah so he said in this ig live stream the person that i the person that i said these things about i did immediately apologize i've mended things in private i just wanted to come on here and say that i am extremely embarrassed about myself my actions and the fact that i let such a word slip out so i wanted to say to james my friend that i said this word about i am deeply sorry we have mended things in private but i just wanted to come on here and say that to the rest of the LGBTQ plus community that I am going to take some time to educate myself on this and apologize.

49:59Christy Noel:This word does not belong in my vocabulary and it should not be spoken about. And then to TMZ, he vowed that he would take time to educate himself, become a better ally. And then of course, really soon thereafter, he talked about his hookup with Nikita with Nikita Dragon. What's interesting about Harry's sexuality is he said on so many podcasts and so many podcast clips have gone viral, he's very open that he's had gay experiences and he's hooked up with transgender women such as Nikita Dragon. In this BFFs podcast clip, when Dave Portnoy was asking Harry, like, what was up with that? Josh Richards and you were out with Nikita Dragon one night.

50:34Christy Noel:Can you just fill me in? He's like, sometimes I don't know about you, man. He's like, I feel like you just do things for, I hate to quote Serena Kerrigan, but almost like you do things like for the plot or just to say you did or to get more clout or fame. So just set the record straight and Harry admitted he's like yeah I've always found Nikita Dragon beautiful I think she's a beautiful woman and we decided to go home one night and we had like a great time and she took a trip to Australia he admitted that Nikita Dragon went down on him so that's all that's all they didn't yeah yeah I think that's all yeah I I guess not but yeah he's admitted outside of Nikita Dragon he has had gay experiences he's never admitted like with whom as far as I could tell from my research but he seems to be very sexually fluid um and i don't doubt that he kind of does remind me of a jacks taylor where he's just like a horny dude and would kind of horny like a hole as a whole kind of kind of guy exactly yes oh my god so many things remind me of jacks taylor i mean about this we could be saying this outline and we could be talking about jacks yeah if we didn't name specific people they basically are like the same kind of person yeah like jacks in his miami early like season one and two Vanderpump years.

51:44And also just like the gaslighting, the, you know, just sleeping with literally everyone, just being a really convincing liar. It's very, very, very similar.

51:54Christy Noel:Yeah, I completely agree. And in 2022, Dumois, back when Dumois was like everything, I feel like she's really kind of waned in relevancy recently, but she shared an anonymous tip that Chloe and Harry were DMing and texting and that Harry picked up Chloe and Bentley, had cards and flowers delivered to her home. And at this point in time, Harry was 24 and Chloe was 38. And Chloe quickly dispelled those rumors. She saw that like blind item on Dumont. She said, absolutely not true in big capital letters. But Harry told TMZ, he's like, listen, I would love to take Chloe out on a date. It would be so much fun.

52:29Christy Noel:But it makes me wonder, was this stage, I feel like Harry sent that tip in himself for clout. This man will do anything for a click, for a view, for clout. Oh, I'm sure. Like I would say confidently, yeah. Right. And I keep thinking he's so, even though he's not friends with Khloe or Kylie or whomever, he's close with all their friends. Like he's hung out with Stassi Baby. He's best friends with Carter. One of Kylie's best guy friends. He's always seen with him. They're like very publicly BFFs. So I'm always curious about that. Like does he ever tell Carter, hey, ask Kylie to ask Khloe about me?

53:08Christy Noel:I always wonder that. Like he technically could. Yeah. And when I listened to him on Alex Cooper, she was saying, oh, does she think it's funny? Have you heard what Chloe thinks about all these thirsty quote unquote DMs you were sending her? And he's like, yeah, I've heard she thinks it's funny, but she's disinterested, which Chloe would never take him seriously. She's too much of a woman. Yeah, he can't handle all that woman. Definitely not. In 2022, he had a really serious relationship with this girl named Georgia Hassarotti. And she was also on one of the Too Hot to Handle seasons and also on Perfect Match season one.

53:44Christy Noel:And honestly, I feel like she was the one that got away. Every time I hear him talking about an ex, whether it be Frankie, whether it be Jess, I feel like he always speaks very fondly about Georgia. And I feel like the relationship really fucked him up. And he just seemed really upset, more so than the other relationships. and in late 2023 after their relationship ended he accused her of cheating on him publicly on call her daddy he said that she was at Coachella and she was bouncing on some guy and Georgia took to TikTok and basically said let me tell you every single damn thing that happened at Coachella she said I was with all my girlfriends that entire weekend I was so stressed because I was texting the area the entire time my friends didn't even want to be around me because I was such a like downer like I was killing the vibe she said that he was every moment theorizing and alleging that she was cheating on him every moment of every day and she's like I would send him pictures everywhere I was just to assure him that this wasn't happening and then he goes on publicly to say that this happened at Coachella when he knows for a fact it did not um Harry I remember this like I remember this drama unfolding right and I think what makes this so scary is he was so confident on the call her daddy podcast on multiple other podcasts yeah yeah i got cheated on and i genuinely i just tend to believe the woman and i genuinely believe georgia because she was so specific she's like ask anyone who i was with we were at a festival with so many people how was there not a single photograph taken of me of me cheating on harry if that's really what happened like give me a break harry posted a notes app statement on his private ig saying that georgia's claims are a misinformation campaign he has this kind of finsta or private account and it says i I don't want to add a feel to the fire about a past relationship that ended four months ago, but this misinformation campaign is really disheartening to see spread, especially by someone that I care deeply about and open my home and heart to.

55:35Christy Noel:Two people here know the truth. I am not going to draw even more attention to completely invalid claims by continuing to discuss them. But I have endless receipts that prove and support what I have always said to be true. I wish only for peace and happiness for this person and hope they'd want the same. This is the last time I will be discussing this matter. and Georgia goes to Sophia Franklin's podcast probably because Harry went and called her daddy and she basically says everything that you know I hated about Francesca at one point because Harry told me all these stories about her ended up being true she's like after Harry and I broke up me and Francesca got on the phone and everything he did to her was something he did to me as like I guess he even proposed to Francesca with a ring remember ring pops those candies oh my god yeah He goes to Francesca with a ring pop.

56:22Christy Noel:I think he did the same with Georgia. He made the same allegations. And I was listening to an episode of the fucking Vile Files, which it was disgusting of him on it. Something about Harry is he will go on any podcast and I bet you he would even come on ours. This man does any podcast that will happen. Oh my God, should we ask him? Should we? We should have him listen to the episode and ask him to dispel the allegations. But he just paints this picture as this wounded bird describes that he never put Georgia first. And every time they would spend time together, he was trying. He's like, you know, I'm so busy, mate.

56:54Christy Noel:And, you know, when I'm not working, I want to make sure that I see Georgia. I don't even know what I'm saying, like how I'm doing this. He wants to see Georgia and he also wants to see his friends. And he said that even though him and Georgia would plan date night, he would invite his friends. And Georgia's like, what the hell? Like, I thought this was going to be a date night for you and I. And she just felt like he was never prioritizing her. And that's ultimately what led to the demise of their relationship. The most interesting relationship that he's shared that quite honestly shocked the hell out of me was his unexpected relationship with Lucy Hale.

57:26Christy Noel:Lucy Hale is five years older than Harry. I think Lucy Hale is 35. And it was confirmed by People Magazine that they were casually dating. And something about Lucy Hale is she's always spotted with random guys. Remember Colton Underwood when they were hiking Runyon Canyon after his Cassie assault thing? Yeah, like what is her deal? She was also seen with that guy from the Scream series. I forgot his name. He's older. He's like probably late 40s to early 50s. She's so weird. I think she's weird too. Something is very dark-sighted about her, honestly. Yes, agree. We should do a whole Lucy Hale episode.

58:00Christy Noel:Honestly, yeah. Yeah, something about her is very dark-sighted. And I think the fact that none of the girls on Pretty Little Liars ever liked her on the show tells me maybe she was the problem. But I don't know. She talks a lot about that in the Call Her Daddy episode, which we can talk about at a later time. But yeah, her fame is always just a little bit thirsty to me. And I think it's very calculated. And I think this Harry Jowsey thing was no different. They were last seen together in April of 2025. And it appeared that they quietly separated after. And Harry's never shared any details about this.

58:30Christy Noel:And most recently, he was on Call Her Daddy because he goes on Call Her Daddy like every damn week. Yeah. And he asked Alex, have you ever interviewed any of my ex-girlfriends? And she said, yeah, the most recent one. And she goes, she's a good girl. don't break I hope you didn't break her heart and he kind of just brushed it off but I'm like dying to know if that was real or not do you think it was real I don't know I guess yeah I've no reason not to believe it they're both thirsty so I could see she's just covertly thirsty yeah they're both clout chasers yeah in 2024 he had a feud with Nick Viall after Harry was on perfect match fucking over a Jess Vestal Nick commented on Harry's behavior and um when Jess obviously He visited the Vile Files as all reality stars do.

59:16Christy Noel:It's like he monopolizes on all these reality stars coming on the show after their season airs. And Harry made a comment on Instagram with some things to say about Nick. Because someone said, mate, you're getting roasted by at Nick Vile. You should go on his podcast and do an interview. And this is like after Harry had already been on Nick's show two years prior. And Harry responded and completely roasted Nick and says, he can't keep my dick out of his mouth. Crying face, laughing emoji. 50-year-old man gossiping about people in their 20s dating. He should be more focused on his wife cheating on him and repairing that than worrying about me.

59:50He kind of ate that.

59:53Christy Noel:I, for that reason alone, I'm Team Harry now. Indefinitely. Honestly, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Absolutely. Yeah, so I thought that was actually hilarious. And that was a really good clapback on Harry's part. And he left no crumbs. in February 2025 Avery Woods who I feel like we have to do an Avery Woods episode I completely agree people really want us to talk about her but yeah there's a lot to be said about her and one of the most egregious things that she did say recently on her podcast Cheers also under the Ellen Well umbrella Avery tells Harry how she's a milfy mommy and she loves to talk about sex and she asked Harry what his type is and he hoes.

1:00:37Christy Noel:I hope it's me. Just kidding. And she says, who's your celebrity crush? And he tells her it's Sabrina Carpenter. And he goes, she makes it. She says it makes her horny thinking about that. And the most controversial part of this podcast episode was in reference to all this online hate that Avery faced talking about religious mothers, like being upset about her online. She says, you know, whenever someone leaves a hate comment, I go to their page and they're always like, mommy of four, like John 316. They're always like this devout, like Christian woman and pot kettle black. And Avery Woods goes on to say, Jesus is going to spank you, lady, if you keep it up.

1:01:13Christy Noel:He's going to bend you over and fuck your ass. Jesus is going to go poop pirate on your ass. And if you keep up this bullshit, they deserve it with no lube. She is so vulgar and disgusting. Even Harry, when I watched this clip back, was noticeably uncomfortable. He was like, OK, God. He like nothing for Harry. Who's OK? yeah for Harry who literally has admitted to having orgies with both men and women is like oh my god what are you talking about but I think overall Harry Jousey whether you like him or not is here to stay I think above all else we as a society love controversy we love seeing hot people cause mess on our screens and I think Harry always understands the assignment he said publicly that when he was on perfect match and he decided to kiss Melinda behind Jessica's back he's like I always feel on every Netflix reality show, I always have to bring it.

1:02:08Christy Noel:Like I have to be even harder than the next one. And he said, why else did they hire me? Like ultimately, I think it is about a money grab at the end of the day. He wants to increase his relevance. He wants to make sure his name is being talked about. He will frankly get anywhere in order to do so. And I think we can't help but watch. Like if you even go on TikTok and type his name, infinite number of podcasts that he started, infinite number of thirsty clips, thirsty TikToks, things with multiple women. It's just messy. And I think whether you like him or hate him, he's going to be here to continue creating chaos.

1:02:39Yeah, he's definitely done a really good job of becoming like this career reality star. I wouldn't be surprised if he like was on, I know he's not gonna be on the Traders next season, but the Traders eventually.

1:02:50Christy Noel:Oh, he would be a good one actually on Traders. I think he would be. I mean, I literally have never watched him on any show because I haven't watched Too Hot to Handle or Perfect Match or any of those shows. But even though I know I would like them, But from what I've learned about him, I do think that he, like you said, he brings it. And it's like, what more could you ask for from a reality star? You know, like I can't, I can't hate it. I think that where he loses me is with the gaslighting women and being a really convincing liar. It's like, kind of, it creeps me out. It's effortless for him.

1:03:25Christy Noel:And that's where it is genuinely scary. And I think you bring up a really good analogy with Jax Taylor at his age. when Jax Taylor first came on our screens on Vanderpump, he was in his early 30s. Keep in mind, Perry Jowes is only 28. He, I do fear with his traumatic upbringing, I think he had a lot of trauma. And I think, unfortunately, with his father passing, I think there's a lot of wrestling with some demons, like a person that you've admittedly, openly talked about hating has died. And there's a lot of trauma that goes along with a dying parent that you didn't necessarily have like the most love for.

1:03:57Christy Noel:I hope he's like taking care of himself and honestly in therapy. He always touts that he is, but he just seems very troubled. And I think we all understand why a little bit more, but it does not. It does not exonerate him from the really troubling behaviors that we're seeing on screen. I think the reason I was joking about liking him, obviously this man is very problematic and this is not someone you would want your sister or any of your friends dating. But I do think there's something to be said about someone who hustles. Like I think a lot of people who are in this industry just want to phone it in and expect like great results.

1:04:27And I think he really does want to push the push the needle.

1:04:31Christy Noel:I mean, regardless of like how far he's willing to get there, that's another thing. But he does work hard. So that's something to say then like a lot of people. He has a business he's passionate about. And I am curious. I after this, I'm going to look up Pash Pash Reviews, his skincare line. Oh, yeah. I mean, he honestly gives like sweaty, greasy Jax Taylor most of the time. Well, yes. So I don't know what really. He's always red. Yeah. You know how we used to say about Zach, Brian was pink. Pink and compact. Yeah. Like he's like red and big. Red and shiny. Red and shiny. Yeah. So that's all she wrote.

1:05:08Christy Noel:Oh, thank you. Jordan just told us that in Australia, Pasha slang for a passionate kiss or making out. So it makes sense. Maybe the skincare is in an effort to make you feel flush. Like the blood is rushing to your cheeks or something. I don't know. That sounds more like makeup than skincare. Well, thank you guys so much for another episode of Snarkbait. Thank you so much for being here. We do bonus content every Wednesday over on Patreon. So head on over there, patreon.com slash snarkbaitpod. We covered Influencer in the News. We did Idaho 4. Idaho, we do some true crime. And then we also do some fun, funny stuff too.

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10:00 -- Who is Harry Jowsey?: Overview, Background and Early Life (TW)

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