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32:35And she said that she fell into a depression when she moved to New York to go to college and that there are negative people in her life. And she was dating someone who she was just in a very unhealthy relationship with and it pushed her over the edge. And she was in New York for like eight months and then called Lisa and was like, I got to go home. Flew back to L.A. and then immediately went to rehab for two weeks. And then she, I guess, decided again to go back a couple months later in 2019 for 60 days. And she revealed this via like a very, very long notes app kind of declaration on Instagram of kind of going through the whole journey of what happened.

33:18And this this like last paragraph and it stood out to me um and it's she says saying no is okay do only things that make you happy and make you feel good about yourself don't let another individual take over your life and tell you who you are or how to be take control of your own life and get rid of all the negative people and energy that may surround you i guarantee this will lead to a happier life even if it's hard in the moment so obviously she's like hinting that someone like really messed her up in this way. And at the time, she was rumored to be dating someone named Khali Smoller. Are you familiar with this person?

33:54No, I'm going to look him up in case his face rings a bell. Yeah, look at his face. But he was, I guess he was well known in the fashion circles and he was a longtime personal assistant for Gigi Hadid. Wow. Another connection. Yeah, it all comes back to the hadiths which is yes so weird and people you know online were like she's trying so hard to be gg she like dated her assistant was like the the online chatter when this was happening that's i mean i can see why people said that yeah unfortunately yeah so and fast forward to 2021 um her panic attacks start becoming really severe and so she decides that it's time to seek out medication.

34:43And the story is a little bit confusing in the way she tells it. She posted like a very, very long Instagram video that was like 30 minutes where she claims that a doctor overprescribed her medication, but also she overdosed on beta blockers, but it was also because of the COVID vaccine. So we'll break it down a little bit, but this is all basically leading up to her publicly saying that she... overdosed. And Lisa, I believe, has come forward about this too and said this. But in the video, she says that in the beginning of that year, she got her COVID-19 vaccine. She got the second vaccine and got really sick.

35:26She said she felt like her bones were breaking. And then she just started kind of spiraling from there. And she was flying home from the UK to get her second dose because it wasn't available over there. And she just had a really bad panic attack when she arrived home. And she called her housekeeper for help and not her parents, which is interesting. That is very telling. And she says that the vaccine caused an autoimmune response in her body and that it triggered a flare up and like all these autoimmune diseases that she now has were triggered by the vaccine. She started to get really, really sick, like she had the flu, getting migraines, panic attacks, was constantly in fight or flight.

36:08So she starts going to different specialists, see what's going on, and ended up seeing a psychiatrist for her panic attacks. And then she says she was over-prescribed medication by this psychiatrist. This is a direct quote. He over-prescribed me with one medication that one of my friends takes like 10 milligrams, and he gave me like 20 milligrams three times a day, and then he gave me three milligrams of Xanax a day. So my body got dependent on Xanax, number one, And number two, I overdose. I didn't mean to at all. I overdose on this one medication called propranolol, which is beta blockers, everyone.

36:43Beta blockers. I took Benadryl with it for some reason. It ended up in the hospital. So it's a little unclear. Oh, my God. You can definitely overdose on propranolol. But also, it's probably a combination of taking all these drugs, I'd assume. Right. Like Benadryl, Xanax, and beta blockers. No, that's not just Wes and Amanda at the Summer House reunion. That is a dangerous combination. I'm sure. Like those are three downers. Yes. Like heart rate. And I know that beta blockers also, we've had so many conversations about beta blockers and how beta blockers aren't like a drug that makes you feel high.

37:17It just slows the effects of like anxiety or reduces the effects of anxiety, the physical effects. But still, I feel like that in some capacity would be considered a downer. Totally. I mean, it's it's it physically slows your heart rate. That's really the gist of what it does. So that combined with like whatever neurological effect Xanax has on you, it's like your body is like just telling itself to like not beat its heart. And that's not good. Right, right. So, yeah, like we said, what's interesting here is that and people have commented online about this, that she didn't call her parents because she knew they wouldn't come, but instead called her housekeeper to come and stay with her.

37:59again like that says everything to me and at the mind you this is also like still covid times it's early 2021 um and so she was taking a job in the uk um and people are kind of blaming lisa for that for telling her things like no matter what like you go and you work and so she took a job out of the country during all this also suffering from many issues and during right So just a recipe for disaster. Ay, ay, ay. God, this makes me so sad for both of them. Yeah. It is really, like, depressing. It's not as, like, juicy. It's not as— We'll look at the juicier parts, but, like— There are juicier parts coming.

38:40It's heavier. But, yeah, this is a heavy one. Sorry, guys. Yeah. Yeah, once again, just imagine Lisa Rinna being your mom. Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. So after this, she goes to a treatment center in Arizona. for a couple weeks, but she, like, can't do the full program because she's considered a medical risk. Because in addition to pandas, she's had Lyme disease, Epstein-Barr virus. Another Hadid parallel. And just, like, the collection of multiple diseases and issues. And, like, could it be because we're not nourishing ourselves? Right. Perchance. Perchance. Right. Right. And also, like, let's remind everyone really fast.

39:29Lisa Rinna's famous feud with Yolanda Hadid was about Manchowson's. And not to insinuate that that is what's happening here, but I do think there are just so many parallels with, you know, what we're seeing with Bella Hadid right now on Instagram. and it's like yeah I think the lifestyle that these girls are being pushed into the modeling and the being thin and all of that is definitely not helping totally it's like let's choose the most like horrible career path for someone who's suffering from mental illness or anything like that like the worst yeah you have to be in a great mental state to to be successful in that and be mentally okay.

40:15And it's like basically impossible in the modeling industry. So it's not the best for folks with these kinds of issues, I'd assume. And yeah, so she has all these other diseases that kind of overlap with each other in terms of like how you can get it because they're all like dysregulating the immune system, which leads to encephalitis, which can lead to seizures and things like that. And so because she was like a huge risk, she was asked to leave. And again, also similar to Bella Hadid, like kind of almost trauma dumping on her followers every time something happens medically. Right. Medically, quote unquote.

40:56And then probably like asking for privacy. Right. Yeah. Also, like, have you seen all of these pictures lately of like Sarah Pidgeon and Joe Alwyn and Zoe Kravitz and Harry Styles? And they're all like in a field in like the UK. Like everyone is like frolicking in these like fields and with like tall, long grass. It's like no wonder every celebrity apparently has Lyme disease. They're going to get ticks. Exactly. Yeah. Those who grew up in cornfields know. Yeah, like we're both from the Midwest. So I feel like we are just both hyper aware. And now everyone's talking about the Lone Star ticks that are now on the East Coast.

41:34So now I'm telling like my East Coast like in-laws and stuff. I'm like, be careful. Be careful. Gotta check for ticks after frolicking. You literally do. Oh my God, I remember picking a tick off of myself once at camp. Oh. And they're impossible to kill because they're so like flat. Yeah, and like hard. Yeah, ugh. No, I had a weird tick bite me once and I had a really weird fever. It was like Rocky. It was a, no, it was a weird spider. It was like Rocky Mountain spotted fever that my mom was like, you know, deep in the Web and D and like diagnosed me with. And then the doctors were actually like, wait, yeah, it is this.

42:10And I was like, oh, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Shit like that happens in the country all the time, you guys. So don't be frolicking. Don't be frolicking. Don't be precaution. Yeah. And so, yeah, similar to Bella, she goes hops on Instagram, of course, which is what you do after leaving any medical facility and basically asking her followers like, hey, they kicked me out. And do you know of any doctors I can reach out to, like holistic medicine people, et cetera, et cetera, because I don't know what to do. And she had at the time was dating Eyal Booker, the guy from Love Island and just with her family at home.

42:51I remember this, actually. I remember when she was dating him. He was so cute. He was cute. I'm sure he still is, but you know. Yeah. So to top it all off, she's also revealed in the same year that she has scoliosis and posted this picture of her back saying that she's visiting these doctors to help her with her chronic pain and trying to avoid major surgery, wearing a brace, things like that. So really just like every chronic illness, disease issue is happening to her simultaneously. And then as of recent, last year, so this ends actually on a happy note, which is happy year note, which is good, that she was diagnosed with endometriosis and she underwent surgery, which basically in this type of surgery that she had was a less invasive procedure where they just cut out.

43:43Yes. Thank you. Cut out the remove the entire root of deep tissue endometriosis rather than destroying the surface, which helps with pain relief, can still preserve fertility and reduces likelihood of things coming back. Um, and she talked about all of this on a podcast and realized that she discovered this endometriosis was linked to her seizures. And she's been having these bad cramps since high school, which would cause her to pass out. And for years, doctors just kind of dismissed her complaints as like other issues, more benign issues. Um, and yeah, she realized this is kind of cute. She realized her symptoms might be related to endometriosis after hearing pop star Halsey share her own diagnosis on social media.

44:29So thank you, Halsey. Oh, my God. Lena Dunham also had endometriosis, among other issues that she talked about in FameSick, and also Olivia Culpo, who also had a laparoscopy. And it's such an under-researched disease. So it's good that celebrities are so open about it, because if you've had severely painful periods and stuff, and you've been told your whole life that, oh, that's normal, it's not. It's like not normal to have super painful periods. The thing that sucks is that the only way to diagnose it definitively is with a laparoscopy, the surgery. So, yeah. I just read that chapter in her book of like, yeah, and doctors just putting fertility basically before the human being type of thing.

45:13And there's a lot of highlighting going on. Let's just say that. Um, yeah, it's I'm sure it was very difficult and frustrating to be like saying it's something else when when it could be this. So luckily now, like it's really helped with her pain. And she said it also helped a lot with her depression and anxiety and her dependence on substance because she wasn't in pain. So she didn't want to take the or wasn't having mental health as big of mental health issues. So she didn't want to take these medications or didn't need to. And so is now sober and an advocate for issues like this. So at least there's a happy-ish ending here.

45:55Amazing. She's been through. Yeah, totally. Okay, now let's get to a more fun-ish topic. Amelia and Scott Disick in 2021. As we know, she was 19. He was 37. They were 18 years apart when they were together. What are your initial thoughts on this relationship? Do you think it was real? Do you think like PR? What are our feelings in reflection? I never thought it was like PR. I guess it could have been. But Scott Disick always loved a younger woman. I mean, other than Courtney, but like he had previously dated Sophia Ritchie, his Bella Thorne situation. this seemed very organic to me because here we have a teenager who doesn't have a lot of parental oversight and uh nearly not to say 37 is nearly middle-aged but he's up there look that's basically how old i am at this point he's up there though he looks middle-aged okay and he has a penchant for teenagers so yeah this seemed this seemed organic to me unfortunately life yeah um so they were first linked together uh halloween 2020 and like we said he had previously like had just split from sofia richie two months prior and then they started posting like they started like soft launching each other basically via each other's instagram of like i'm i'm eating at this restaurant and this is a picture of my plate and then like his instagram has the same plate or whatever and people start to connect the dots it's a great way to just get the people talking um she posted about him on thanksgiving thankful for these people blah blah blah started like commenting flirty things on each other's posts and then like there's obvious backlash of the age difference and everyone was kind of talking about that and she posted on instagram kind of a clapback, if you will, of a selfie of herself and basically saying, people are extra weird and judgmental these days.

48:05People can embrace however they feel fit for them and at that moment in time. People can embrace themselves however they feel fit for them at that moment in time. I don't know what it means. Sure, whatever. People grow, period. People learn to love themselves more and more. So I guess that was a clapback, allegedly. I'm not sure. or just i don't know um so she's clapping back at the haters okay she's aware of the criticism happening they go instagram official valentine's day um sources say that they're that courtney and family were supportive at this time of their relationship they really like the two of them together and think amelia is a great influence on scott a source says um they're in a really good place and love and respect each other why is she a great influence on him she's a teenager exactly what is she influencing like if anything it should be maybe the other way around but even then it really that shouldn't be the dynamic in your relationship like yeah god i remember like hating scott disick at this point in time when he went like it was like like i said bella thorn Sophia Richie, Amelia Gray.

49:15I'm like, stay away from the teenagers, you fucking creep. No, it's so disturbing. And there's one photo in particular he posted that really like made me want to throw up. If you remember that picture he posted of her like basically nude in her underwear, like reaching for something on a top shelf. So you can like literally see under her cheeks. You can like see her vagina. It's like, and she is 19. So gross. In this photo. It's so gross. I'm disturbed by just like looking at it. Like I shouldn't be even looking at it. It's gross. And like just, yeah, really bad. Caption a little higher, almost there.

49:56So cheeky, like a little disgusting. Ew. And this was also kind of talked about on Beverly Hills. and Lisa also publicly said like she would make jokes about it and be like, well, we both seem to share the love of bucket hats. He he he. Or like he's much more handsome in person, which is just like, OK. And that was like one of her storylines also, right? The fact that her daughter was dating Scott Disick. Mm hmm. God, that again, like that was just another added to the list of why we were like, get Lisa Rinna off this fucking show. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like trying to it's almost using it as like her own personal clout.

50:37Like, yeah, my daughter's in the mix, too. Like, Kyle, you may know the Kardashians, but like I kind of do, too, now. Blah, blah, blah. And it's like. Totally. So embarrassing. So embarrassing. yeah um and then in september 2021 they split and it was rumored that this was because of these leaked dms that are like one of courtney's exes eunice oh i love this era by the way courtney and eunice like i thought they were so hot together and also like her style was the best when she was dating Eunice. Yeah. But apparently, or he did like post these DMs where Scott was basically chirping Travis Barker and Courtney being like, what are they doing like out in the middle of Italy?

51:24Because they were super, super PDA heavy. And I guess Eunice somehow got a hold of that and posted that. And the rumor is that Delilah was super embarrassed by this. Or Amelia, you mean. I mean, sorry. Amelia was super embarrassed and like, which I'm like, There's plenty of things to be embarrassed about. I know. That was your breaking point. When he goes, yo, is this chick okay in the middle of Italy? Bro, what is this? And like obviously still in love with her and like sass with her. Yeah. And she posted this selfie afterwards with a tank top that read, don't you have a girlfriend? And then she allegedly broke up with him.

52:01so and then she posted something in december like reflecting on her year as one does and said that this was the year she completely lost her sense of self not knowing that i would reclaim it even more authentically so it seems like she it does not look back on this relationship fondly um i just want to like i just want to take these girls under my wing like i feel so bad that they like don't have parental oversight. They're a broken bird. They're literally broken birds. Like they literally are like, yeah, of course. Like she, you know, probably looks back on her relationship with Scott and is like, yeah, like I was a teenager and this was like an almost 40 year old man.

52:47Like that was not normal. Yeah. That's, you know, that could be considered grooming depending on how you look at it. Like that is not a good dynamic. Oh, no. And it's all public. every single bit of it and it's like she doesn't know any better that's all she knows basically okay now moving on to delilah's relationships um like we mentioned she was with a y 'all booker um for for quite some time for a couple years they um first connected in 2019 after she was a well she's a big fan of love island still is and she slid into he his dms and was basically like you're sexy in all capital letters. And they and she just happened to be in London afterwards.

53:30And they met up and started really dating from there. They're seen at Coachella, kissing everywhere. But they were long distance. She was in L.A., he was in London. And this was also during COVID. So it was really hard to see each other, things like that. But they're both models and they're both, you know, public figures. So they bonded over things like that and they there's the relationship seemed pretty serious like the one little scene they had on beverly hills like they seemed really cute and like i feel like they were going in the direction of maybe marriage and family and things like that um and he was also like a really strong figure for her while she was suffering throughout 2021 with her issues and um but they they ended the relationship and people say the sources say that it just ran its course but i'm like i feel like something had to i don't know something had to have happened but maybe maybe not but i just feel like there has to be more to the story because they were like so perfect yeah what's the t does anyone know the t let us know right and it's like it was also right after she went public about all her health issues um and so just the timing is interesting and maybe yeah maybe focusing on sobriety, things like that.

54:50Maybe, yeah, there was something there in terms of he wasn't her priority at that point. Yeah. Not to bring up fame sick again, but I think also like being with someone who is dealing with chronic illnesses or recurring illnesses or whatever it is, is not easy. Yeah. And Jack Antonoff was not up for the challenge, as Lena Dunham recounted in her memoir. Right. So it definitely can put, you know, so much stress and tension on a relationship for sure. Not speculating that that's exactly what, well, I am speculating, but yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a great point. And because a lot of like these chronic illnesses are invisible or like people don't believe you and it's just sometimes a burden to other people because they can't conceptualize.

55:38She has a great line in there of like, no one will ever be able to actually feel your pain they can empathize they you can describe it to them but your body is the only thing that can actually feel the pain you're experiencing so it's so hard to like for anyone else to understand what you're going through yeah exactly um and then she started dating henry eikenberry in mid 2023 who's an actor and model played derrick on euphoria do you remember this person on euphoria euphoria season two which is yeah you know that was like 10 years ago yeah um who the fuck was no who was he in euphoria henry eikenberry because you didn't watch euphoria did you i feel like i did watch some episodes i feel like i watched he must have been like a background character yeah he's cute he's definitely cute yeah i feel like that model yeah bad boy look kind of thing going on um and then now she's currently dating nick mayo who's also a love island alum love island australia um loves her islanders yes i wonder if it happened in the same way that she just slid into the dms and i'm gonna like assume that it did yeah i'm like i mean that's kind of amazing that that has worked for her yeah um so shoot your shot people but uh apparently he was people say he was super cringy on the show um he recently like buzzed his hair and bleached it um and people think he looks odd and don't like it and making fun of him but who's I don't know.

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1:00:57She is the ultimate cool girl goth model who became like so. I think she just became famous from social media. I could be wrong. She would do cooking videos. And now she's engaged to Maddie Healy. And she is like the ultimate, like, just like very cool goth with like, you know, the interesting makeup and the eyebrows. And she has a very distinct, yeah, she has a very distinct look and a very distinct style. So it's not a coincidence that Amelia all of a sudden started like looking exactly like her, in my opinion. Right. Like she's been this girl for a long time. She was on a reality show years ago because she was in like this all girl rock group.

1:01:38and she was the lead singer and the drummer. Yeah, 2019. Oh, I didn't even know that. And this was when she, before she decided to go the modeling route. So she looks, her body looks differently, but she still has the same vibe of like dark hair, lips lined, tats, things like that. Super edgy. And then she's gotten to the food blogging and was, she's the internet starlet that Taylor refers to on Chloe, Sam, Sophia, or Marcus, and also is referenced in Charlie XCX's 360 or 365, I'm Gabriette, you're so inspired. And someone was inspired, and that person is Amelia. She started making her, she also has, Amelia has the most gorgeous eyebrows ever, and she started thinning them out to the max.

1:02:27To look like Gabriette. Also, I feel like Gabriette is probably like the one girl that Taylor Swift is like most insecure about. Because first of all, Maddie Healy, I think, is the guy that she like will never quite get over fully. And then also the fact that Gabriette is so effortlessly just like this cool girl. And that's, I think, Taylor's biggest insecurity that Taylor is never like the cool girl. She's more of like the cringe girl. I have the same one-sided beef with Gabriette for those same reasons. I love Maddie Healy so much. But I was literally like upset when they got engaged. But now I've come around and I've been like, I just have to accept this as an extension of him.

1:03:07So now I like her. That's what happened to me with like Timothy and Kylie. I was like, I just have to accept it. Like all that matters that Timothy is happy and Kylie makes Timothy happy, then sure. Yeah, I know. We live hard lives having one-sided boyfriends. Parasocial relationships with male celebrities that will never know who we are. It's hard. You know, my heart goes out to you. So she, yeah, like we said, eyebrows super thin, over lining the lips, plumping them up. Jawline got super chiseled and like gaunt like Gabriette. Gabriette also went through like a huge weight loss. And she was like basically told people, I'm going to lose weight so I can be a model.

1:03:51And that's kind of that's what she did. um so and she was also extremely extremely beautiful before doing that so that kind of makes me sad too and yeah and mostly the eyebrow crime upsets me because Amelia has the best eyebrows ever um I think she still goes through phases of like kind of growing them out but that was yeah like she also I mean it's very like you said like she was so naturally beautiful and the eyebrows and all of that, obviously. But there is so much, like, I don't even, I'm not a plastic surgery expert, but it's very obvious that she has had whatever procedures done, whether it's buckle fat removal or a fox eye procedure or whatever it is.

1:04:33Like, there is something very, very distinctly different about her appearance. And it's been progressive throughout the years. But it's like, when you look at old photos of her, she is so different looking. Yeah, yeah. And people, yeah, definitely point this out and she's clapped back before um and she also like was very annoyed by these comparisons to gabriette because people were like really tearing her apart online of like you're copying gabriette but you'll never be as cool as her because gabriette is that girl and you're just like trying to be her um and she she responded to someone on tiktok um because people would i remember this time people would just comment on her tiktoks being like gabriette you look so cute here just like as if she were in a joke ironically saying she was gabriette and she finally responded to one being like no but i'm so over this i'm over this whatever um well like what do you expect you're literally copying and pasting someone's entire face and look and i think i like would watch her videos and just thought it was gabriette and be like oh my god this is amelia as in the renna's daughter daughter to tell the difference her daughter yeah it was like this is it was actually kind of creepy, kind of scary.

1:05:43How, yeah, just how much she transformed and how similar they were looking. But fast forward to this year, because these people have been saying this for a couple of years now, that they did a Marc Jacobs campaign together. They had like a twin campaign and basically leaned into the whole like twinning thing, copycat thing. And they did this campaign together, photographed together, and there was a runway show with the campaign that they walked together in. And then, like, kind of were in each other's content, appearing to be friends. I don't know if it was because of the campaign itself. She wasn't, like, on Gabriette's bachelorette trip or anything like that.

1:06:22But they were leaning into, like, basically the people making fun of her. I don't know how Gabriette might feel about that. But, I mean, it's honestly, like, the best move she could make on a millionth part for sure. Imitation is a form of flattery. Maybe Gabrielle is flattered. I would be annoyed probably, but like maybe she's flattered. I mean, yeah, she's so inspired as Charlie said. So yeah, I guess things are good on that front. Which by the way, we talked about this on our Hot Takes Patreon episode that we recorded yesterday, how Charlie XCX's Wuthering Heights album, you said was amazing.

1:07:00So I listened to almost all of it during my walk yesterday. And then I watched Weathering Heights finally because it's on HBO Max. Loved it, by the way. I know that everyone kind of hated it because it's so different from the book, but I had a lot of fun, so. Really? What do you think of the music? I thought the music was amazing. Like, I thought it really fit the vibe. It's very, like, you know, artsy and gothic and, like, it's not supposed to be a serious movie. Like, it's not taking itself seriously. So it makes sense that, like, charlie xcx and you know it fits i like yeah my sister said if i go into it just viewing it as a very long music video i will like it yes i think that's very good advice yeah you need to do that speaking of music there's a new pop girly on the block and delilah is trying her hand at um at some pop tunes and i did not know this until i obviously was just researching these girls but it hasn't come across my desk that she just released a new song.

1:08:00I guess she had released Delilah had released one like a couple years ago but now released one called Modeled and Lisa has been posting videos of herself dancing to it, etc. Her musical style is ethereal pop and she premiered the new music video in Paper Magazine. But we thought she was better. apparently she had a seizure on the set after an hour of filming so i'm like girl oh god i when we thought things were okay maybe like performing and you know this whole lifestyle maybe is just not for her like maybe she needs just a boring remote email job like me she needs to be a sales rep or something yeah but even that could be like too high pressure yeah um because you have to like perform for, you know, the client.

1:08:55Like maybe she just needs an email job. Right. But in any case, obviously wish her well. That's really scary. Yeah. Yeah. Seizures are very scary. Yeah, definitely. Totally. And like, yeah. So, right. And this is just her first kind of stint moment of putting out music and this is already happening. It's like being careful. But in any case, Modeled has premiered. I took a little peek at the music video. It's very, the aesthetic is very brat-coded. It's very reheating of the nachos. Indie sleeves. Yes. Even down to the font that, like, as she's singing, there's, like, font that comes on the screen.

1:09:32Oh, yeah. I see the screenshot that you put on the doc. Oh, my God. And reminiscent of things that we've been seeing. Definitely. So, give it a listen, everyone. I don't know. It's not bad. It's not horrible. It's stream-modeled. It's very, yeah, just poppy and kind of just more of a vibe than a catchy kind of tune, I guess. Interesting. Yeah. And also something I discovered in researching the girls, the daughters, was another relationship from Amelia that I did not know about. But apparently she was dating this other model, Lali Bahia, who is now with Rosalia. Have you heard about this? Oh, I did not know that she had dated a woman.

1:10:22I think it was like she never publicly came out and said it. But people kind of put the pieces together that they were quietly dating and now are both in very public relationships. But Lolly is a French model and actress who's 23. And I guess they were in a lot of each other's content and then just with each other all the time. And then they suddenly stopped posting about each other. and um amelia posted like screenshots uh of whatever with like we are never ever getting back together on her story and just kind of like subtweeting her at the same time she followed or unfollowed lolly who she was rumored to be with and there was just like a lot of online mess going on um and just re like it was very like amanda batula coded of like posting songs or retweeting or re-tiktoking videos that were very much like I just got dumped and now I'm sad kind of thing.

1:11:26Wow. Coming out and saying it. Wow. Very interesting. And this is all people speculate that they were together but this was all kind of just an online putting the pieces together type of relationship and things like that. And apparently it was all over TikTok at the time but I completely missed this. And now it's like everything is gone. Yeah, that was not on my FYP. Yeah, same. Oh, it seems like it was good tea and juicy. So if anyone knows or if anyone saw these TikToks, let us know what like the real tea is because now it's like I can't it's like all removed or something. Yeah. And now so like like Lolly is now publicly with Rosalia and they have a very public relationship.

1:12:09And now Amelia is dating Nikolai Marciano or Marciano, the Guests, Inc. heir and director. So get that coin, girl. And she said they had known each other for like 15 years and that Nikolai was actually Amelia's or Delilah's classmate way back in the day growing up in L.A. And he's more age appropriate. He's 29. So they've known each other for a long time and she's very public about their relationship like you know recently she had a birthday so she's posting all this stuff of um all the presents and things and balloons that he did for her so very much obsessed she's very much obsessed with him which good age appropriate good for her yeah love that and an heir to the guest inc throne doesn't sound too bad yeah um and we've touched on her like speculative plastic surgery for a while amelia specifically just because her look has really drastically changed there's a picture here that really just shows just how different her face looks and also delilah too but like amelia is definitely more drastic but it's it's both of them for sure yeah um i mean again lisa rinna is their mom like they're not gonna you know not get lip fillers right and she has a very intense look to her and like a iconic look to her that it's like yeah there's no way these girls were gonna get by with looking normal for sure it's just so unfortunate because she's only 25 i just like i can't get over that like she looks so much older because of the work that she's had done and like yeah everything that she's been through or doing to herself it affects her health and longevity and that's just scary and she's young.

1:13:57Her brain is literally just finally formed. Okay. But she's like clapping like in January there was an article in Variety of her clapping back about plastic surgery stuff. She said she's opened up. She's been open. Amelia has about getting a nose job in the past and that she also had a breast reduction after a piercing. I'm guessing a nipple piercing caused an infection in 2020 and she was like i gonna get sepsis and like people like how to have emergency surgery and then so after that um she got breast implants but like reluctantly and they were really really big and cost her all these complications and she alludes to the fact that like scott influenced her to get these big boobs oh of course i did i was dating someone older than me and i was younger and I allowed a beauty perception to affect my choices.

1:14:51I decided to get another breast augmentation because I wasn't happy with the scarring. It left for my reduction. So yeah, Jax Taylor style pressuring someone to get giant-ass boobs that are not - Those are my boobs. Again, on another like tiny frame. Yeah, which again, similarly to Brittany, did not need. Yeah. Yeah. And so then these big, big boobs were pushing on her nerves and then she had to have a 14-hour reconstruction surgery. Oh, my God. Mind you, she's still... Like, what? Was she, like, 20 when all this happened in 2020? Yeah. If she was dating Scott Disick at the time, then, yeah, she was probably, like, 20, 21.

1:15:30I feel like all of their... My biggest takeaway from this episode is that the majority of their problems come from their lifestyle of chasing, you know, the modeling and being obsessed with appearances and it's like, how could you not, right? Like it's not their fault that their parents are Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin and you know, they have lived in this Hollywood world and they've been pushed in the spotlight their entire lives but it's like, oh my God, imagine if they had just had like a normal upbringing. They'd be so normal and probably so much happier and healthier. Definitely. And like throwing in all these chronic illnesses that you don't know where they come from.

1:16:09It's like you could have just, they maybe would have been handled much differently had they not been in the spotlight and then getting all these other surgeries on top of it, which if you have chronic illness, Lyme disease, things like that, wouldn't that not be, wouldn't that be counterintuitive to like getting better? Right, right. But yeah, you're right. It seems like a lot of like the snark is really about other people's like influence on them. It's really about, yeah. This is like a what's the snark on Lisa Rinna episode almost. Yeah. Like seriously, I mostly feel sad for them. But, God, again, it's like the perils of pushing your children into the limelight at such a young age, I feel like, has caused them so many physical, emotional issues.

1:16:52And genuinely wishing them the best. Again, it's not their fault that Lisa Rinna is their mom. But, Olivia, thank you so much for walking us through this. You did such an incredible job. Olivia is the best, you guys. Like I said, if you missed it, we did a Patreon hot takes episode with Olivia over on Patreon. And those links are in our show notes per usual, our Patreon, our Friday newsletter, which Olivia also contributes to our newsletter and writes the funniest musings and like reality TV recaps, whatever she's in the mood to write. It is always so funny. So definitely subscribe to that if you are not already.

1:17:35And yeah, I'm trying to think of what else. Hopefully we'll be back to regularly scheduled programming. I know that Christy and I are kind of back and forth with Olivia and with Rachel, but we so appreciate Olivia and Rachel filling in while we deal with other life stuff. I mean, for me, it's going on vacation, but Christy is, we wish her the best. She's spending time with her family right now. And yeah, thank you guys so much for being here. Thank you for listening. And thank you again, Olivia, for doing such a great job. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Bye, guys.

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