In short
A comedian-hosted conversation with Chris Fleming about travel mishaps and cultural misunderstandings (Italy/Barcelona/Catalan; Amsterdam tour stories), creative life updates (studio upgrades, furniture sponsors), and comedic philosophy (bombing, clowning, podcasting choices). They also trade personal anecdotes about Europe, boba/food habits, pets, and neighborhood problems (woodpeckers damaging a house), plus sports/health history (knee surgery from football; dance background). They end up riffing on public figures and politics (McConaughey/Chris Pratt wanting to run for president; Marquis de Sade) and on relationships/cheating as a “hot in fiction” concept.
Guests
Chris Fleming (comedian; known for stand-up clips that are often blurry from constant jumping; says he’s getting praise as a favorite comedian). The other main speaker is the host (not named in the transcript) who visits Fleming’s studio and discusses set design and studio staff (Nicole, Katie, Quinn, etc.).
Key claims
Fleming didn’t know what Catalan was and worried about being “canceled” after saying it in a Barcelona restaurant. He describes a Dutch tour guide’s “consequence” cadence and a dark Amsterdam story. He says he avoids many podcast appearances because it would add too many hours. He claims boba is his dependency/crutch and jokes about a “boba-less” uprising. He argues clowns teach comfort with bombing.
Notable examples
A one-person European show that was “one hour of screaming” (stopped only when the performer drank milk). A French class exchange student named Pauline who taught explicit sex topics. A “one-eyed tile guy” named Joey who was polyamorous. Woodpeckers smashing into a house; neighbor warns about prevention discs. A Krispy Kreme detour during a road trip that led to vomiting.
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Chapters
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1:12 to 3:06
A humorous conversation between Caleb and Chris about their lives and experiences.
“I gained, I think, 11 pounds when I visited Italy when I was younger on bolognese.”
Chris's Unique Podcast Ideas
3:06 to 4:52
Discussion on podcasting and Chris's humorous take on potential concepts.
“Why don't you have a podcast, by the way?”
Cultural Observations in Spain
4:52 to 7:20
Caleb shares a funny story from his recent trip to Spain, including a language mishap.
“Oh, but it's like bumping mics or we do shoe fives.”
Tour Guide Adventures
7:20 to 9:18
A comedic recount of Caleb's experiences with a quirky tour guide in Amsterdam.
“I went on a date in Barcelona, and the guy goes, oh, I'm learning Catalan.”
Funny High School Memories
9:18 to 14:01
Chris reminisces about his high school experiences with an exchange student.
“I had a really fun tour guide who, he had the same cadence.”
Unexpected Guests: The Woodpecker Chronicles
14:01 to 15:36
Listen as Chris shares a humorous account of dealing with woodpeckers and quirky neighbors.
“Which I'm sure is like, I could see that being a rom-com that Justin Long is in.”
Raccoons, Brownies, and Pest Control
15:37 to 17:52
Chris recounts his experiences with raccoons and offers a funny anecdote about his neighbor's advice.
“It's always fucking something with this house.”
Road Trip Memories and Podcast Dictatorship
17:53 to 19:50
Caleb recalls a memorable road trip and the debate over listening to podcasts versus music.
“I think once on a road trip, I got really mad, actually.”
The Absurdity of a One-Person Show
19:51 to 24:14
Caleb describes a bizarre one-person show experience dominated by screaming.
“fewer than 15 threads i'm trying to keep track of yeah because i want to know right what's supposed to be happening.”
Clowning Around: The Dark Side of Comedy
24:15 to 27:33
A comedic discussion about clowns, their absurdity, and the challenges of performing.
“I thought he was a little more fanciful.”
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Friendship and Performance Dynamics
27:34 to 28:00
Chris and Caleb reflect on their friendship and a unique performance experience with fellow comedian Natalie.
“Do you remember the first time you were asked earnestly if you were taking clown classes?”
Clowning and Comedy
28:00 to 28:35
The discussion explores the unconventional paths comedians take to find their niche.
“But I'm saying a lot of them, the reason they've come to clowning is because they looked at every possible talent, saw none of it in themselves, and said, I can roll around.”
After Party Anecdotes
28:35 to 30:15
A humorous recount of an awkward attempt to attend an after party.
“She was just, imagine just seeing Natalie.”
Car Troubles and Advice
30:15 to 31:29
They share stories about car issues and helpful tips from a stranger.
“There was a lady who was at the stage door who wanted to tell me that I bought her car.”
Surgery Stories
31:29 to 32:50
Discussion on past surgeries and the unexpected outcomes of sports injuries.
“You know, this is my comedy leg, and this is the leg I tore my meniscus.”
Comparative Experiences
32:50 to 34:24
The hosts compare their high school experiences and surgeries related to sports.
“I can't think of something more delineating between the two of us than that both of us had surgery in high school.”
Declining Invitations
34:24 to 36:48
They talk about how often they decline invitations to events and the absurdity of some requests.
“Well, if you don't have one, you don't have to make one.”
Declining Invitations
38:47 to 39:55
They talk about how often they decline invitations to events and the absurdity of some requests.
“and be sure to select show true when prompted to unlock your 80 % off.”
Declining Invitations
39:59 to 41:10
They talk about how often they decline invitations to events and the absurdity of some requests.
“when you're looking for an exciting new snack to try, True Fur is making that choice easier than ever.”
The Importance of Free Time
41:10 to 42:01
A light-hearted discussion about the benefits of having unscheduled time.
“You're really good at preserving, I think, yourself, probably.”
Cheating and Its Allure
42:01 to 43:10
Explore the complexities and allure of cheating in relationships.
“You take a cloth and you tie it around a stick.”
Boba and Dependency
43:11 to 44:41
A humorous discussion on boba tea consumption and its implications.
“Trying and failing to cheat, I think there is.”
Cultural Observations on Coffee
44:42 to 46:19
Comparison of coffee culture between America and Europe, highlighting differences.
“I mean, I would write a manifesto day one of not being able to have boba.”
Encounters in Amsterdam
46:20 to 47:47
A funny anecdote about a coffee shop experience in Amsterdam.
“And I go, hey, some of the other people who work here have been hooking me up with an ice vanilla latte.”
The Fragility of Ego
47:48 to 49:35
A candid conversation on self-perception and the fragility of ego.
“I feel like you're so impervious to that sort of thing.”
Political Awareness and Family
49:36 to 50:50
Discussing the importance of political awareness and family check-ins.
“And I have to check in every once in a while.”
Personal Insights on Travel and Experiences
51:55 to 54:00
Reflections on the experiences of traveling and feeling out of place.
“I think we can base a lot of what the stories, you know, I see the girlies.”
Hot Tubs and Health Risks
54:01 to 56:00
A light-hearted discussion on hot tubs, health risks, and personal anecdotes.
“When we were in Madrid, we stayed in a hotel that had a 24-hour indoor pool.”
High School Hot Tub Tales
56:00 to 56:58
Learn about the dangers of unclean hot tubs and a shared experience of hot tub folliculitis.
“around who had the hot tub in high school yeah of course I want to get one you ever got hot tub folliculitis?”
Life Expectancy of Horses
56:58 to 58:09
Explore the surprising life expectancy of horses and amusing birthday plans.
“You know, oh, the horse is going to colic if I don't throw it a carrot.”
Reflections on Turning 30
58:09 to 1:00:00
Discuss the relief and change in perspective upon turning 30.
“I have to grace the green carpet When you turn 30 Tell me about it, what happened?”
Prince and His Legacy
1:00:00 to 1:01:18
Delve into Prince's unique persona, his life choices, and his impact on music culture.
“I thought you were saying Prince didn't count his birthdays.”
A Cult of Personality
1:01:18 to 1:02:42
Discuss the dynamics of running a cult and the challenges of communal living.
“Yeah, right now I'm still locked in on boy.”
Fan Interactions and Celebrity Life
1:02:42 to 1:04:04
Explore the complexities of fan interactions and the pressures of celebrity.
“I don't find that part surprising at all.”
The Nature of Fame and Memory
1:04:04 to 1:10:01
Reflect on the fleeting nature of fame and the loss of memory in comedic contexts.
“Yeah, I'm just going to turn you a little more to your camera just because it's a halfway visual medium.”
The Dynamics of Online Fame
1:10:01 to 1:10:56
Explore the strange experiences comedians have with audience memories.
“People quote things I've said to me that I do not remember.”
Self-Love and Comedic Identity
1:10:57 to 1:11:58
Comedians discuss their relationship with their own humor and persona.
“I will laugh so fucking hard At my own little That's the key to happiness I love hanging out with me I have a blast with that guy You're like the couple from The Notebook How do you mean?”
Fashion Aspirations and Style
1:11:59 to 1:12:56
The conversation shifts to the idea of becoming a 'shirt and tie guy'.
“Oh, click that one right below that one, Nicole.”
Touring Responsibilities
1:12:57 to 1:13:46
Discussion about the pressures of performing and dressing for shows.
“I want to be a shirt and tie guy though.”
Theater Dreams and Playwriting
1:13:47 to 1:15:08
The hosts contemplate doing a play together, referencing favorites.
“I read plays just because it's faster than books.”
Celebrity Culture and AI Relationships
1:15:09 to 1:17:19
A humorous take on celebrity relationships, particularly with AI.
“I just told Mateo Wayne that I would do a musical with him and then when it kind of circled back around I said I didn't mean it.”
Women's Perspectives in Media
1:17:20 to 1:18:48
Discussion about the themes in a popular show and women's storytelling preferences.
“Yeah, we need someone taking a nine iron to a windshield.”
Living with Illness and Jet Lag
1:18:49 to 1:20:26
Chris shares his experiences in dealing with jet lag and illness during travel.
“I don't know that I understand this show.”
Flight Experiences and Interactions
1:20:27 to 1:24:00
A comedic recount of their flight experiences and interactions with flight attendants.
“But I just was surprised I saw a photograph.”
Flight Attendant Anecdotes
1:24:00 to 1:25:07
Discussion about experiences with flight attendants and flight discomfort.
“It's like you take them at the right times.”
Food Cravings and Boba
1:25:07 to 1:26:30
Exploration of favorite foods, including a love for boba and bolognese.
“I have a horrible relationship with flight attendants.”
Travel Tales and Connections
1:26:30 to 1:27:48
Sharing stories about travels and romantic encounters in Europe.
“They were not enjoying my attempts at Spanish at all.”
The Challenges of Dating
1:27:48 to 1:28:28
Discussing the complexities of love life and relationships.
“I mean, if you catch a flight that long.”
Truth or False Game Setup
1:28:28 to 1:30:13
Preparing to play a game of 'Truth or False' with lighthearted banter.
“I think I got booted off the stage when we did this live.”
Playing Truth or False
1:30:13 to 1:33:38
Engaging in a game of 'Truth or False' with various statements.
“She like high fives one and he like crumbles.”
Reflections on School Experiences
1:33:38 to 1:34:24
Nostalgic talk about school, grades, and teacher interactions.
“I would be in directed study if I took this in a high school class.”
Reflections on School Experiences
1:35:26 to 1:35:54
Nostalgic talk about school, grades, and teacher interactions.
“Apply today and earn a welcome offer of$1 ,500 cash back after you spend$50 ,000 in qualifying purchases on your new card within the first six months of card membership.”
Reflections on School Experiences
1:35:56 to 1:36:21
Nostalgic talk about school, grades, and teacher interactions.
“It requires the right pieces, coming together with purpose.”
Transcript
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1:00Apply today and earn a welcome offer of$1 ,500 cash back after you spend$50 ,000 in qualifying purchases on your new card within the first six months of card membership. Terms apply. Learn more at go.amex.com. Wave. I gained, I think, 11 pounds when I visited Italy when I was younger on bolognese. You rendered... And four cheese pizzas. Quattro fomaggi. Pizzas. Yeah. What'd you say? You speak another language? Un poquito. Un petit peu. We'll go with no.
1:34Chris, what the hell's going on, brother? Check one, check one. Check one, check one, check one, check one. Check one, check one. How you doing? Oh, I'm well. How are you? Cold today. You're cold? Yeah. Oh, because it's cold in New York. Yeah, I'm fragile. I thought you meant in here. You are so small. No, no. In here, and again, this is... I've been complimented. Caleb was angry that I didn't compliment the studio when I first came in. I went to the bathroom and I heard him passively aggressively saying and the studio's really coming together. I was complimenting Nicole because they'd been working so hard on it while I'd been out of town.
2:03No, and it is gorgeous. And then Chris turns around and goes, I'm so sorry I haven't said something. It looks amazing in here. Well, because you used to record where they would do Trap Noodle Return. Yeah. You used to record in a Greyhound bus station bathroom and now you're doing IMAX cam. I saw a clip of you. You look like Mel Robbins. I thought it was the Mel Robbins podcast. Yeah, let them. Actually, she stole that from me. Let them. I'm the first one who said that. Yeah. Do you think her family would recognize her if she took her glasses off? How does she get famous? Do you know? I have been trying, you know, those podcast scams where someone emails you and is like, you want to go on this podcast?
2:39Yeah. I'm always getting invited to go on the Mel Robbins podcast. That's how I found out about Mel Robbins. That could be real, Chris. No, it's like, it's clearly. It's like 1269 ampersands at the devil.com. That could be her producer. They want you. Yeah. That's all I know about Mel Robbins. But no, this is such a gorgeous. You have come such a long way. I've done simply nothing. Katie and Quinn and Nicole and Chance and Michelle are doing so much on it. Why don't you have a podcast, by the way? Because I think that something awaits for me in the divine for resisting. you think you're going to be rewarded in the afterlife for not falling for this just key lime pies non-stop one of those egg if i had if i had a podcast it would be you know uh those you know that place by chloe with those chain egg chairs of course i don't what yeah there's like these there's a place called by chloe that has some preposition and yeah chloe and there's these egg chairs by these brutal like roadhouse chains and it's just all these like 39 year olds like swinging smashing in them.
3:48You got the boucle chairs, I would have the egg, the four Chloe chairs. People would watch this, Chris. My favorite thing that you ever post is stills of you doing stand-up. You're somehow, you're like you're 10 feet in the air and you're like a blur on the screen. Yes, it's always blurry. You can't stop jumping. There's a lot of me kind of collapsed onto the ground. Yeah. Face down on the ground. That's when I'm photographed the most. Yeah. Is when I'm just kind of like fully like Yeah. Yeah. Assuming the position. Yeah. Yeah. What? You got to keep moving. Do you feel like you're getting so much praise lately?
4:27I feel like you're getting really like people are really every time I talk to someone they're like Chris filming is my favorite comedian. They keep that from me. Do they? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not. I tell you all the time that you're my favorite comedian. You do. I do. I can't stop. I compliment you all the time. You don't. You refuse. You came here today and you said you're looking a little fat and ugly, which was kind of mean, but I was like, it's funny because it's Chris. Oh, I'm trying out Roast Battlestar. We should start a Kill Tony show, me and you. Yeah. Oh, but it's like bumping mics or we do shoe fives.
4:55Yeah. Let's do it. You're sporting the Uggs, I see. Well, I've become an Ugg guy. You know this. Me too. Have you? The jacket I was wearing, it's like the margarine colored jacket. Yeah. You didn't notice? No, I noticed it was a yellow jacket, canary yellow. You're wearing a canary yellow jacket. Yes, it was for my sister. I gave it to her, and she said, no. She said, I'm all good, man. Yeah. Yeah, thank you, though. Thanks. That's Ugg? That's Ugg. I didn't fully, I did not know they made jackets. I don't know if anyone else knew that they made jackets. They make everything, granny panties. When I'm behind closed doors, I'm in tip-to-tail Ugg.
5:32Really? Yeah. I believe it. You're very chic. Well, I like the soft. Yeah. And you got, I mean, this is, you got the couch over there like this. This is all. Oakley. It is. And room and board sent all this to us. They sent it to us, room and board. The furniture company. Do you know them? No. Well, they're fabulous. They sent me all this furniture. Yeah. We love them. Shout out to them. Where are our cameras? Yeah. Well, that's me. And these are both you. They're just on different ones. One's really tight on just your mouth. Yeah. And then the other one's kind of a wide on you. Yeah. Oh, and I brought a guy who's up.
6:08Yeah. Your guy's up there. He has a rifle, which is scary, but makes sense. He's got a harpoon gun. Oh, my God. Chris, there's something I wanted to tell you. Yeah, yeah. I just got back. I was from Spain. I was in. Well, I was all over there. I was all over there. I was in Dublin, Amsterdam, Spain. Caleb will text you. He'll be like, hey, are you going to be in Norway tomorrow?
6:31And then say, I never see you. I never get to see you. Well, come around where I'm at. Are you going to be in the Fiji Basin yesterday? No, Caleb. I have at least three dogs. You have so many dogs. Sorry, but we'll get into that. We'll get into your dogs. After we stop. What was I going to tell you? Okay, I'm not going to say the city where this happened, because I don't want to embarrass this person. Bartholomew? No, not... Well, maybe. Okay, here's what happened. Tejikogolpa? One more time? I learned it from where in the world is coming. Tejikogolpa? Where's that? Chris, what if you're getting canceled right now as we speak?
7:06What if this moment is what brings you down right now? Tejikogopa is every consonant imaginable. It's TG. I forget. It's somewhere in Central America. It's a place. Oh, yeah. It's a capital. I don't know things. No, no. You do. I don't. Here's what I'm going to tell you. I went on a date in Barcelona, and the guy goes, oh, I'm learning Catalan. And I go, oh, yeah. What is that? Catalan? Catalan. Do you know what Catalan is? Sounds like a board game. Do you know what it is? Catalan? I didn't either. I was like, what is that? He was like, it's the language of this region. And I was like, oh. Yeah, I was like, I didn't know that.
7:44I thought they spoke Spanish. He was like, they do, but they also speak Catalan. And I fully know that I'm a dumb guy. I'm a dumb American guy. No, no, you're not. No, you're very civically engaged. Not about stuff over there. Okay. I know stuff here. You still ask me questions about other places. Yeah. People be like, oh, you know the conflict. Don't be so sure. How do you say this? Catalan? Catalan. It's a language. And it's not Spanish. And I said out loud in this restaurant that I don't know what it is and he literally goes people here are very sensitive. People here are very sensitive about it.
8:10He speaks like six languages. I go sorry I'm American. Big smile. I'm American everybody. I love being American. There's something about us. Totally. We're loud. We're fat. We're big. I like us. I go over there and I'm like I'm American. We're poorly read. We're poorly read. I haven't read anything. I don't know anything. I don't. I'm smart in America and that's what's beautiful to me. I keep just opening the Al Pacino autobiography and closing it. Yeah, I don't think that's one that you need to read. But it's the only one I'm drawn to. Yeah. So when he was, you told him you didn't know Catalan.
8:43I didn't even know what it was. Is the word cattle in it? C-A-T-A-L-A-N. Catalan. Yeah. The language of a region in Spain. We are going to get eviscerated. Oh, people are going to be very mad. They're going to Google it. And they're going to share facts that they just found out. Yeah. How dare they? How dare you not know Cattle Inn? How fucking dare they? Well, it probably died off. Like, I'm sure there's some, like, colonization factor. I had a really fun tour guide in Amsterdam. Yeah. Who, mostly I have stories to tell you about being in Europe. That's going to be my contribution. Yep. And then I'll ask about your dogs and everything you're coming up to as well.
9:17I'm going to ask all the stuff about you. And my humidifier. Your humidifier, your jackets. Yeah. I had a really fun tour guide who, he had the same cadence. for everything. And he was telling us, he was like, so this guy wanted to be king and he told the Amsterdam government if you make me the king, I will do your bidding. And so they make him the king. And guess what he don't do? The bidding. So the Amsterdam government killed his family in front of him and then killed him. And so the consequence, he is no longer the king and still to this day they are under Dutch rule. And so the moral of the story, if you tell your boss you will do something, you have better do it.
9:56Moving on, like it was just so like I was obsessed with him It was like a mad TV audition Yes and he continued to say the consequence And so this painter Was never famous when he lived But when he died, the consequence He'd become very famous In death He just would say the consequence all the time And I was like I'm kind of addicted to you I love you It's very hypnotic even what you're saying And so the consequence Oh ask Ali I've been walking around saying it Isn't that a beloved character, that cadence I'm trying to place what that is Are people laughing or stifling? People are not laughing.
10:33People are very serious. There was an older man in my group from Pennsylvania or New Jersey around there. He was shooting his hand up every time a question came up. Oh, Jesus. To answer it. Oh, yeah. Guy would be like, who thinks they know the purpose of the painting? And the guy would be like, oh, love. He was so locked in on answering the questions. And I was grateful because I didn't want to do it. I had a Dutch exchange student named Pauline. who wanted to teach me all about sex in high school. We were in French class, and she says, Chris, you need to know about sex. Hold on. I think she was like 31.
11:09Hold on. Yeah. She was an exchange student to your school. Yes. Not to your home. No. And she wanted to teach you about sex. When you were doing that accent, I was like, why does it sound for me? I thought it was a beloved character, but just in my life, you were doing Pauline. Pauline. Yeah. Pauline was whispering explicit sex tricks. She was like Cosmo, but this foreign exchange student named Pauline. Blonder than you could ever imagine. Like, look like, you know Ted Danson in that new, you know how poorly lit that new show is on Netflix? You can like see his gallbladder. It's like he's fully trans.
11:43You know how Netflix is shot? I don't want to talk bad about Netflix. It's not much longer that we're going to have anywhere else to go. Please don't talk about Netflix right now. I'm sorry. We need to be very careful, Chris. You're right. They're going to own this podcast like next week. No, no, Pluto's going to own this podcast. I'm actually interested in Mubi. Mubi, hit me up. There's one where you can watch the Oscars and it's free, but if the second the Oscars end, it's an$80 a day subscription. Do you know what I'm talking about? I think it might be Fubo. Yeah, Fubo. Yeah. Fubo. Paramount Plus just emailed me.
12:14They're raising prices. They said, we're raising your subscription. I had it for sports or something. Yeah, for Yellowstone. I have all of them. Wait, did you sleep with the Pauline? No, no, no, no, no. She was selling it in an educational way. She wanted to fuck you. She was so playful about it. I don't know even where she was staying. This was also a class where I would just say, in French you can say bon weekend, to have a good weekend, and I would just write that as the answer to every on the tests. And Madame McHale loved that, and so I would get 100 % on every exam. That's not good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
12:56You shouldn't have been passing that class. She lived four hours from the school and so if it ever snowed, she'd sleep in the nurse's office. If there was ever a chance of flurries, Madame McHale, you would go in in the morning and she's just drool coming down. Never set foot in the movie theater. I'm not kidding. She'd never been to a movie. Mrs. McHale fucking rock so imagine Mrs. McHale I'm trying to get Mrs. McHale to gossip so we don't have to do French I'm like hey Mrs. McHale what do you think about the principal and Pauline's like and then a handjob an outdoor handjob wait why didn't you sleep with her you weren't attracted this was my junior year I didn't even it took me a long time to understand when that somebody was flirting with me.
13:47I'm just processing how badly this girl wanted to sleep with you and kind of feeling for every day she's showing up thinking of new sex facts to tell you, hoping that you'll use one of them. No, I think that she was sensing such a hopelessness to me that she was trying, it was like a tutoring thing. Yeah. Which I'm sure is like, I could see that being a rom-com that Justin Long is in. Yeah, that I would watch, by the way. Oh, totally. With like Bernadette Peters, like someone much older. When you say you don't know where she was staying. Yeah. We never really... Take it from the top. Do me a favor.
14:24Kick your bobo over on the rug, please. I'm losing so much money in Airbnb security deposits from just simple syrup.
14:37You wouldn't believe how sticky my habitats are. Because, Chris, what? What do you mean you don't know where she stayed? She didn't have a host family? I don't know. And then we had two Germans named Marlene. There's a table if you want it. No, that's too far. If I don't have it in my sight. Right. Ooh. Yeah. Katie Birmingham, mind you. Who's Katie Birmingham? Katie designed this. She designed my HBO special. She did the set design from HBO special, and she did this. She's working on this whole set, her and Quinn. She tiled this? She did. She did. It's so nice. You don't know if she had a host family?
15:14I had a one-eyed tile man. I'm not even kidding. Chris, I'm begging you. So everything curved. It sounds like a street joke. It's not. What do you mean? You hired a one-eyed tile guy? Polly. Stop. At which place? Tight ponytail. This is your place in the mountains? No. This was two, three places ago. The place in the mountains. Have I told you about the woodpeckers coming in? No, but last time we... It's always fucking something with this house. The last time we talked you told me the chandelier exploded. Yeah. But I was warned by a ghost by that. There's a door that swings open. Anyway, we'll get back to that.
15:49No. Get back to what? Woodpeckers are getting in. Where? How? Woodpeckers are just, they come every morning as soon as I leave. Smash their heads into the house. Yeah. And they're getting closer and closer into the house. And my neighbor is this guy who I call Barb because I can't remember his name. But he's got an earring. He's like a libertarian. It's like an earring, belly button, but homophobic. I knew all that. Yeah. I guessed all that from the jump. He's like, he keeps giving me discs to put up to prevent he's like, those woodpeckers, they're gonna be in your house in a matter of weeks if you don't stop this.
16:24And I'm like, if they get in, it's theirs. Do you feel bad that you didn't put up the discs? No. I had a neighbor tell me once at my house in Kansas City, he said he didn't talk much to anybody in the neighborhood. He would talk to me sometimes. And I took him brownies when I moved in. I took him brownies when I moved in. So we developed a little bit of a friendship. I thought you were saying you stole brownies from him. No, I took him brownies. I took him brownies and I ate them. And I ate them brownies. It's like an old, it's like an old folklore tale. Or it's like, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like a mom's Mabley punchline.
16:59He said, put, you need to, he said, you need to put a raccoon protection around that part of your house right there. Cause they're digging over there. They're trying to get in there. Yeah. And, um, I didn't. And they got in, they got, they got in, they got into the space under the house and it caused a lot of problems. They were making crazy noises under there. With their little burlesque hands? Yes. They got in and I called a pest guy and I was like, you know, if I don't do something about it, he was like, it's going to cost this much money. I was like, if I don't, he goes, well, one of them is going to die in there and that's going to be a way bigger problem.
17:25That's the problem. Yeah. So you can't let the woodpeckers get in there, Chris. Oh, no, no, no. What's done is done. They're in. You're letting them in? I'm telling you, they're like that close to getting all the way through. Yeah. So just pecking the side of your house away? Yeah. Remember when Mark Maron's podcast was all about, the first 17 minutes was all about the skunk or the raccoons that got under his house? Do you remember that period? Oh, you were probably in middle school. I've never listened to Maron's podcast. I'm sorry to him. I have never listened to Maron's podcast. I think once on a road trip, I got really mad, actually.
17:56My college improv team and I road tripped from Missouri to New York to do a free improv show at UCB because we thought it would help us get somewhere. Yeah. A mental illness on a level that you actually can't imagine unless you've been in it. Oh, I've been in it. I used to do bringer shows. And on like our, we did straight, we drove straight and on, and we slept on a guy that I'd never met's floor who was a graduate of my fraternity in Bed-Stuy. You were in a fraternity. Go ahead and work on all that. No, no. There's a lot. I mean, call, I'm still on college improv team. On like hour 17 of the drive, the guys were insistent that we listened to Mark Maron podcast.
18:27They're like, we need to listen to Maron. I was like, for what? They're like, it's just something to do. I was like, music is something to do. And so is being quiet. I did not. I was so pissed. I was pissed that we had to listen to a fucking podcast and they accused me of being a dictator, which I am. There is a pill that you can take to put you down for the first 17 minutes and then you wake back up after he's done and then the guest is on. The Marin pill? Yeah. I took a 17 hour drive from Chicago to Boston and I wanted to go to a Krispy Kreme with my friend Hartford that was added two hours to the trip.
18:57Yeah. And I we got there and I had the Krispy Kremes and he was reading me the ingredients of the Krispy Kremes. It's like aluminum. Yeah. Arsenic. Seagulls. your loved ones and I'm just I'm not talking he's listening I pull over to a rest stop I don't say anything I get out and I just casually vomit I just spew you know like spitting up you made yourself vomit? no no the Krispy Kremes I drove after driving two hours out of the way I had to pull over to a rest stop and just yeah just let him out while he's wearing the Krispy Kreme hat yeah then i get back in and keep driving we also totaled that van because he backed me the guy tried to back me and he was backing me into a dumpster yeah and harford didn't want to my friend didn't want to override that guy's authority yeah and so i just i hit a dumpster going maybe 15 there are there are at this exact moment in the conversation yeah there are no fewer than 15 threads i'm trying to keep track of yeah because i want to know right what's supposed to be happening.
20:03I think right now the one that's coming to mind is One-Eyed Tile Man. Oh, yeah, Joey. Joey, okay, of course. Yeah. I had a landlord who he was trying to evict us, and he would be drunk at night, and he'd call me, and he'd be like, that's it! You're out! And then he'd pause and he'd be like, you ever see Steely Dan live? Oh, wait, he fucking rocks. And then he'd be like, can you send Joey your video about polyamory because he was Joey, the tile guy, was polyamorous. Yeah. A one-eyed tile guy named Joey who's polyamorous. Do we know where he is now? Yeah, he's still in LA. Oh, nice. Driving around the coolest old truck.
20:46They always do. I don't know if he's still poly. Poly people, not one-eyed people. Yes. Yes. You don't know if he's still poly, but he still drives around the little truck. Oh, yeah. And it's like a McConaughey thing. That's a beautiful life. Yeah. McConaughey trademarked all right, all right, all right. Did you see that? when he went down all right all right and they did you read this no mcconaughey trademarked all right all right all right and it specifically says like whereas the all is lower pitched and the second right is higher pitched they've trademarked the cadence jesus christ he says it's to protect against ai so i kind of got on board with it you know i i i shamefully i'm okay with with mcconaughey does i think i the one my one problem is he is like um he's using too much contrast in his photos of himself yeah well you know all those guys are like they're taking their roles right now based on whether or not they think it'll affect their run for the presidency like him chris pratt they're all right now they're all coordinating roles what they do and don't take based on how will this look when i run for president that's what they're all building mcconaughey and the rock want to be president so bad mcconaughey would you vote for him yeah no Yeah.
21:57No. What do you think he, which party? I can tell you that none of them would be rocking with the platform I'm trying to do. No, no. I can tell you that none of them are going to put on a platform that I go, all right. Yeah. I'm not going to see Chris Pratt's platform and be like, you know what? Yeah. Catholicism does need to make a comeback. You really think Chris Pratt would run? I think they all want to. Isn't he like on an island in the Pacific Northwest right now? Is he? Yeah. I think he's like, I think he's full Christian, full just like living reclusively. He's totally full Christian. I support all of them running.
22:27I think anything would genuinely be better than what we have going on. But I just think it's funny that you get to a certain level of being a that guy movie star, and you go, I've got to be fucking president, I think. Oh, totally. Something just clicks in your head where you go, it's time to be president. Well, it's a Marquis de Sade situation. A who? When he had every pleasure available to him, he had to start doing fucked up stuff. Who is this? Like hunting. Marquis de Sade? The Marquis de Sade, yeah, yeah. It's like when you have access to everything, you've got to start getting fucked up. Is this like a tale?
22:56Who is Marquis de Sade? I told you I was kind of a dumb guy. No, you're not. I'm coming out as a dumb guy lately. How so? I'm a smart guy in certain realms, but I don't know what you're talking about right now. It's like the Catalan thing all over again. Marquis de Sade was like this incredibly wealthy guy. When? Probably 1400s. And he really lived? Cape. Paul Bunyan thing or real guy? More Paul Bunyan than real guy. Do we think? What do you think? Nicole, can we Google Marquis de Sade, real guy, Paul Bunyan? He started, he became, he was like one of the first perverts. He was a French writer.
23:31Oh, he was real. He was a real guy, nobleman, best known for his libertine novels and imprisonment for sex crimes.
23:41Yeah. Yeah, okay. So that's what I'm saying, like McConaughey, it's like, what stone is left unturned? The Oval Office. Yeah. Once you have everything. What do you get for the man who has it all? The presidency. The presidency. Yeah, of course he was doing sex crimes. I'm looking at a photograph of him and he almost had no choice. I don't know if we call that a photograph. I'm looking at a photograph of this man. I don't know that he had a choice but to do sex crimes. Yeah. Some people were just born for it, you know? That's obviously not true. And I want to just say on the record that I'm kidding.
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24:10He looks so rough. Yeah. He does. Oh, in the painting. No, he still looks pretty. Yeah. He looks like Hans Zimmer in that one. Now, why'd they do a fat one of him? They always do a fat one. Why is he fat in that one? That's got to be someone else. Yeah. I thought he was a little more fanciful. Like, yeah, I imagine like a lot of cool outfits. Oh, God. A pillar of the French establishment. I mean, I've never. I don't know. I don't. Why were we talking about him? Who's McConaughey running? Yeah. Everyone wants to be president. I don't know. It's very funny to me. Oh, what I was going to tell you.
24:41Yeah. I went to a one person show. Yeah. In one of these cities in Europe. Oh, OK. OK. I was pretty stoned. I got pretty stoned. Yeah. Out of my mind. You were abusing marijuana. I was abusing marijuana as I am want to do. I went to this one person show. It was, you're going to think I'm exaggerating when I say this, Chris. You're going to think, oh, Caleb's being silly. He's doing it for effect. It was one hour of screaming. Are you being silly? Are you doing this for effect? It was an hour of screaming. The only time that the screaming stopped. It is a black box theater, pretty full. One person on the stage screaming.
25:16Oh, you don't. Screaming. Not screaming words. No. We're not talking Bobcat Goldthwait. Yeah. Screaming. Okay. You stayed? Stopped. Had to. Couldn't leave. It was a hard way to leave. You'd have to walk through the scream. It was screaming, screaming, screaming. Walk through the scream. The only time that the person stopped screaming was to drink a glass of milk in front of us. Stopped screaming. Walked into the room to start the show. Sat down a glass of milk. Stepped back. Began screaming. Screamed and screamed and screamed. Guttural screams. Moans. Body twisting. Screaming, screaming. me stopped drank the milk in front of us for maybe 30 seconds one of these big one of those back to screaming scream the whole time i'm laughing hysterically yes yes i don't know if it's what they wanted yes but i will say at one point i was laughing so much that they laughed a little bit the performer like they in the middle of the screen i was laughing so hard that i don't think they had a choice yeah like they in the middle of the screen they were like this they're Like, they laughed a little bit at my laugh.
26:18Yeah, that's clowning. Clowns, they're going to marry you. Clowns, I can't get into today. Oh, I know. I know. You obviously know that's going to be a trigger for me. I know. I can't get into it with clowns today. There's six clowns in LA that if given the chance, I would put them behind bars. Oh, yeah. When the Hulu series comes out about the fucking clown scene. There's six clowns in LA that I would put behind bars. Oh, my God. Instantly. Really, it just, clowning, it just teaches you to be comfortable bombing is really all that is. Being okay wasting an audience's time. And they're really confident when they do it.
26:55Yeah, because that's the whole practice.
27:05Chris, I'm begging you.
27:11And obviously the beard is bouncy. It is the most cubic beard. They're naked for no reason. The clothes have to come off when the clowns do their thing. Sometimes in a way that you're like, it could have never enhanced the bit. Well, the clown master always suggests the hotties get nude. Yeah, of course. I think your clown might be naked. Some of the uggos are getting naked as well, though. You have to admit, Chris, I've seen some ugly naked clowns. Do you remember the first time you were asked earnestly if you were taking clown classes? Has this happened to you? Yes. They try to claim me. They say, you got it in you.
27:49Hey, kid, you got it in you. They try to claim me. No, because you write. Yes. You couldn't clown because you write. That's right. Not all clowns don't write. There are some clowns that write. Natalie Palomides writes. Oh, she's different. She's great. Yeah. There are some of them that write. But I'm saying a lot of them, the reason they've come to clowning is because they looked at every possible talent, saw none of it in themselves, and said, I can roll around. And that's how they got there. And so, of course, you're not going to end up there. Yes. That's a lot of the clowns. Completely. Natalie is also the only performer, the only comedian who has ever, during my set, but we've been on a lineup together, I was doing stand-up, and the audience starts laughing at something that I'm not doing, and I look around, and Natalie's on stage with me.
28:35I want to do that at one of your shows. It is the funny. She was just, imagine just seeing Natalie. Why'd she come out? Did you beckon? She had me be a deer in her thing. Yeah. And so she thought it was a two-way street. Which I get. I mean, I get. I mean. Wait, can I tell you something that you might not know about our friendship? Yes. Mine and yours' friendship? Oh, yeah. I came, I was in Chicago when you taped your special, and I tried to come to your after party. I heard about this. You went to the blind barber. I ended up, so I went to the first after party location and it was like a club.
29:11It was like a cage fight, right? It was a club with like teenagers waiting to get in. Yeah, I think there was a really wealthy man who was hunting people. Yeah. I walked up and saw the line and I said, this can't be the place. And it was. Yeah. And then I got text messages that said, go to this other place. I went to a hotel. I walked in the hotel and I go, I'm here for the after party. And they go, ah, one moment. Ramon, a man named Ramon comes over and walks me down a staircase into a basement. That guy was the fucking worst. I escorted into a speakeasy. He turned me away. What? Yeah. Well, how'd you get in?
29:45I forget. I was so out of it. Yeah. Anyway, but you were there. I go to the speakeasy. You're not there. Let me, for the record, I did not select a speakeasy. I go to the speakeasy. I am so against speakeasy. It was the backup venue because your first place didn't work. Yes. And then I ended up in the speakeasy. I'm bad at places. If it were up to me, it would be a field. And I wasn't there for long. Because I said, Chris is not coming. I convinced myself you weren't going to come. I was like, this is some kind of bit. This is some sort of performance piece. There was a lady who was at the stage door who wanted to tell me that I bought her car.
30:23I just shot the special two shows. So I'm a complete scout. Husk, yeah. I'm just like, huh? And there's a woman who's like, you bought my car. Please believe me. And you need to do this to the battery. Because she was right. The battery, I was needing to get the car jumped every morning. I need to turn the battery. Because it's this car. It's like a six-pound car. It's true. Like a meep meep. This is the one that's like European. It drives on the wrong side. Japanese. I drive on the wrong side. And don't you keep getting pulled over? Cops are like, cops drive by. and they're like, should we shoot the tire?
31:01You know what, we got bigger fish to fry. But I'm almost getting, I'm almost going away for a long time in that thing. Yeah. Every single day. And she told you a trick about the battery that worked? Finally. Well, then good that she found you, right? I thought that you could get roadside assistance by Geico for free, but if you jump it continually, you wouldn't believe. And also, it's already hiked up because I won't get into what I've done on the road. I treat my neighborhood like it's my driveway Yeah So I do a lot of rolling stops You know You're not stopping fully at stop signs In your neighborhood Of course, it's your neighborhood Yeah That's okay It's considered a rolling stop On a Vespa Yeah I use my legs a lot to drive Because my legs That's good There's more My legs and knees are more dexterous than these God gave you legs for a reason Yeah Drive with them God gave me the ladies for a reason Yeah, the girls Yeah, as I call them You do.
31:56I said, where are the girls? And you come skimpering in. Yeah. Madam, mademoiselle. Exactly. You know, this is my comedy leg, and this is the leg I tore my meniscus. Irish step dancing when I was in high school. Did you have to? In my bedroom. I can't. Did you have to have surgery? Oh, of course I did. I had to have surgery. They told me I'd never dance again. And I had to recover under. I printed out a tiny, there's a tiny little clipping of Michael Flatley, Lord of the Dance. I don't know who that is. He has every cluster B personality disorder. Okay. Okay. I had a little clipping of him, and I'm recovering in my bed underneath this, and he was just out of arm's reach.
32:32I couldn't tear him down, because I was trying to be like Michael Flatley in my bedroom. Have you danced since? Oh, yeah. Socially, yeah. Okay. No, I was a dance minor in college, almost. Really? Dance like concentration. You were almost a dance minor in college. I met the choreography class. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, what did you get surgery for? I had football. Forget it. I can't think of something more delineating between the two of us than that both of us had surgery in high school. Connecting piece. Yeah. Both of them were on our knees. Yes. Which knee? Right. Yeah, me too. You know something crazy?
33:04House left? Put your fingers right here where mine are. I thought you'd never ask. And then get your foot off of my foot. Sorry. He's boundaried. Hold on. Hold on. You better not be doing a party trick right now. No. What is it? It's because I turned my angle weird. Hold on. I'm going to untangle from you. Hold on. Okay. Hold on. What am I feeling for? Hold on. Oh, I'm hearing something. Hold on. You better not be doing Pilates right now. It's legit not doing it anymore. Oh, there it goes. Okay. Here. Yeah. I'll bring you up like this. You ready? Yeah. The way this is going to go viral on Tumblr.
33:37Oh! You felt it. You felt it. What is that? Well, that's my fake, my fake, my thing from my surgery. Yeah. My cartilage in between the two bones had gotten like this bone and this bone were rubbing against each other and snapping off on the ends. And my coach told me to stop being a pussy and play through it. And I did. And then I had to get surgery. And then after I got surgery, I was like 15. My mom was like, you can keep playing football if you want, but I would recommend finding something else to do. And I did. I started doing student council. That's much better. Did you get along with the football people?
34:15Is there anything that it'll do or no? I'm trying to think. No fun pops or anything? I mean, nothing predictable. Well, if you don't have one, you don't have to make one. If you grab both of these and you start swinging me around, like an old laundry basket, I'll start to scream. Oh. Yippee! Let's do it later. Miss Pat picked me up like that once and I'm on a panel. I love being here with you. Who? Miss Pat. Oh, I've heard of her. I love being here with you. I don't know her. Oh, she's wonderful. I've only heard of her. Oh, she's amazing. She seems great. So funny. Yeah? She picked me up truly like a picnic basket.
34:50Why did she pick you up? It was in context. But she grabbed me by... I guess I'm asking what the context is. I can get really small. Oh, we were just on a panel. You can get really small. I can get super small. I'm like an octopi. You know how octopi can go down the drain? Yeah. That's you? Yeah. You were on a panel and she had to pick you up. Yeah. Yeah, we were carrying the panel because it was a lot of quiet. people were kind of just being quiet and we were just saying shit and not understanding each other and I think it was a punitive measure. How often are you getting invited to something and saying no?
35:25What would you think? I'm in like the hundreds per day at this point. You say no. I love saying no. I'm not talking interpersonally. There would be no valor in turning down like hanging out with friends. I'm talking like work events. Some of the things that they come up with to invite you to. I mean don't you just find it's like it gets crazier every day completely like the sticky awards would really love to have you show face on the green carpet the sticky they need you to show up on the green carpet they need you they need you there and it's in buffalo and it's in buffalo and it's in buffalo and a comedian you don't like is hosting yes just so you know and they'd love for you to come they do not have a budget it's weird you it's it's never adjacent to what you to like the taste that you think would like you either yeah it's it i don't know how it how it happens yeah i i often uh forget to respond to things that's okay and um that's that's i feel like you say no a lot i feel like you're i i start i live at no and i have to be dragged out of it with a knife to my throat yeah i would say is how i would describe my approach to going to things like events or like doing things work events like like even like or even guesting on podcasts i'm sure you're saying know to i don't go on a lot of podcasts i go on my friend's podcasts i'll go like when i'm promoting something i'll i'm sure the next time i have to promote something i'll go on a bunch but that's not because i'm better than it or anything it's just because i spend so much time doing my own podcast that if i say yes to all these other podcasts all of a sudden 12 hours a week i'm podcasting well if you do the wrong podcast you truly feel like you're at the gynecologist the way that they're it's really bad yeah it's really really bad yeah it shaves six to eight months off my life.
37:06Yeah. Doing the wrong ones. 100%. And you know the second it starts you go, oh I made a big mistake. Yeah when it's like, oh yeah I just I get really really scared. Chris why are you the way you are? Oh god. Well answer them. Chris hold on answer them.
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41:14You're really good at preserving, I think, yourself, probably. Well, I need to be hanging out most of the time. Yeah. That's part of my... That's so smart. We need to be having nothing to do most of the time. Don't you think? Yeah. A day where there's something on my calendar is tyranny. Same. I feel like no one has ever gone through anything worse than what I have to go through if I have a 4 o 'clock, 20-second call. Yeah. No, for real. I truly am like, this is... I've long said this. This is Dust Bowl era. Yes. Me and my hound. Yeah, yeah. I have my... Going from town to town. What's it called?
41:52Rucksack. Yes, but there's another one. Catalan? No, you put it over your shoulder. My bendel. You know bendel? Bendel? Bendel. It's a bisexual kindle? No. Okay. You take a cloth and you tie it around a stick. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know a bendel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know a bendel. Donald Duck would use it when he'd fall on hard times. Yeah. When Daisy would kick him out. The ant. For cheating. Do you think he cheated? I know he cheated. Have you ever cheated? No. No. Me neither. but I'm fascinated by it. By cheating? Yeah, because it is hot. In fiction, it's hot. You know, don't you think people are probably having a really hot time?
42:31Here's what I'm saying. Do I cheat? No, I'm not a cheater. I've always been of the mind that if you're not enjoying someone, you should just leave them and go do what you wanted to do. However, I think people who are cheating are having a very hot time. Yeah. Don't you think when they're cheating, they're going, fuck, this is so hot that I'm cheating right now. I think that's why they do it. I think, yes. I think this is a lot of what you see at a certain type of bad restaurant. You see a lot of people cheating. A lot of bald guys in their 50s. I'm scared. I think that whenever you see a guy in blazer and jeans, he's at least trying to cheat.
43:04He wants to cheat. He's open to cheating. Or the Seinfeld sneakers with suit trying to cheat. Wow. Yeah. That's really scary to think about. Trying and failing to cheat, I think there is. If you hit your chin on the pool and don't pull it off, I think there is a ring of hell for that. Yeah. That's a really good point. Airport bars. I got really scared when you said bad restaurant because I think you might be talking about some of my favorite places. Well, I have terrible... You know I've never given a restaurant recommend. No one's ever come to me for restaurant recs. That makes sense to me. People don't want to know where I eat.
43:36Yeah. You know I'm mostly... I do, but I don't want to go. I'm post-food. I'm mostly drinking stuff. I know. I'm really actually starting to get... I know it's been like a thing we've talked a lot about in our friendship and it's been kind of a recurring theme when you come on the show. I am approaching a point where I'm worried about your boba consumption. Malnourish. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your boba consumption is getting out of control. Well, there's a theory that I metabolize sugar like alcohol, so I might be getting fucked up. I may have just... When I was drinking, it may have just been the mixers that were fucking me up.
44:04I think I've told you this. Yeah. Okay, yeah. You said there's a theory that, and by that you just mean you've kind of thought maybe... People DM me, hey, I think this is what's happening. Like a lot of like... I hope they're medical people, but there's like a way that sugar can be metabolized. They're not. just so you know. With all my love, they are not. They are not medical people. Maybe, yeah, you might be right. But no, I should cut back on Boba. I'm just worried about your dependency on it. Not because I care about what you put in your body. I don't worry about that kind of stuff. I just mean what's going to happen someday if you don't have access to Boba?
44:41I thought about like a yellow jacket situation. Exactly like that, yeah. I'd go crazy. Yeah. I mean, I would write a manifesto day one of not being able to have boba. I would occupy a state building the second. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're going to see me on the roof in a muumuu. Yeah. Yeah. Occupying a state building because you don't have boba. Please. I really do. I'm concerned about the day this happens. What's your crutch? My crutch? Oh, everything. I eat whore. I love to have a good time. Yes. I love to have a good time. Keep the party going, too. Carpe diem. I like to have a Dr. Pepper. I like to have a big iced vanilla latte.
45:19I'll tell you something about Europe. They think they got a lot of things figured out. Their buildings may be older Their languages may be more beautiful But America is the greatest fucking country on earth because we have iced vanilla lattes on every corner They don't do vanilla They won't figure out how to do ice in the lattes a lot of them And they're small, right? It's like little Well, they're tiny and they think they're just so much better than us because they're all thin and cultured and they've been to a million countries And they resolve their issues with each other if they have interpersonal stuff.
45:44It just makes me upset Yeah, it just makes me upset. I love traveling. I get really angry when I go there To Europe? Oh, yeah. Well, I have a beautiful time looking at the museums, but the coffee situation is out of control. You know I'm coming over here. Make me one. Totally. I found a vanilla syrup plug in Amsterdam. What? The young ladies who worked at the coffee shop I was staying next to in Amsterdam, vanilla is not on the menu. But I went in. I said, is it possible for me to get an iced vanilla latte? I know. I know. Kill me. Shoot me dead. And they go. They laughed. And they said, it's not on the menu, but we have some that we keep just for us.
46:16We'll give you some. and every day I was in Amsterdam and I went and they made me an ice vanilla latte. Except for on the fourth day, I go in there, new girl working. And I go, hey, some of the other people who work here have been hooking me up with an ice vanilla latte. I don't know if you'd be interested in perhaps doing the same. Throw me a bone. She goes, we don't have vanilla on the menu. Right. I go, no, no, I know. I just, I know that right in that little fridge over there. She was a company man. She was a company man. And it's sick. And she would inform on me in a Nazi situation, by the way.
46:45Oh, yeah. She's a component of the state of Kong. Just keep cupping the balls of the man. You know who that is? That's someone who retweets SNL videos. Yeah. Just corporate. Doing grassroots organizing for Lorne Michaels. I said, I know, but there's a bottle back there. And she goes, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, okay, I'll have just a latte, ice latte. I'll put sugar in it. I'll put some of that brown sugar in it that doesn't dissolve. That's what I'll do. Sounds good. I'm pissed. We were talking about it before the episode. I'm mad. Yeah. I saw you punching the drywall. I had a bad coffee every day.
47:16You could. I had an old boss at a coffee shop who would smuggle ABBA records into Iran back in the day when it wasn't allowed. You could do this with vanilla syrup. Yeah. Into Amsterdam. They have it. They have access to it. They just don't want to use it. It's a private stash. It's a private stash. They don't want to use it for the customers. They don't want Americans to come around, I think. Yeah. I think they don't like us, which isn't fair. I'm not the government. I'm just Caleb. It's tough to be disliked. I freak out the second someone dislikes me. Really? Oh, yeah. I feel like you're so impervious to that sort of thing.
47:51Do you have a fragile ego? Oh, so fragile. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Very much so. Really? But I'm usually pretty tolerated. Yeah. People haven't. Well, I just downright love you. People haven't had a hard time with me. Yeah. Typically, it's like, okay. You get away with murder, actually. Oh, yeah. You say things about people that I'm like, if I did that, I would be in trouble. Oh, but it only makes them wilder for me when I say it. Yeah. Or bigly, it won't stop ringing me. Yeah. Have you said things about Mike? Oh, so many things. Yeah. I can't stop talking about them. You really get away with these things.
48:24I don't know how. Yeah, I think it's a kink people have. Yeah. Yeah. They want you to talk about them. Yeah. I did this about someone recently where someone was like, you can't do that. Really? Yeah, I forget who it was. Wait, they hit you up, the person you were talking about? No, my friends were like, hey, hey, hey. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'd love if you did a bit about me. I mean that. I could never. I would love if you did. No. I recently convinced a musician friend to put me in a song. Album's not out yet, but I'm in there. I'm low in the mix. My name is low in the mix. It's like a background vocal?
48:57Yeah, I wouldn't say background. In what context? My name is low in the mix. Key loon. Almost. Who's the musician? I can't say. You're always hanging out with, you're like popping up with like the harps. a chord player from Florence and the Machine. You ever been to church? Oh, yeah. Catholic church. Really? You were Catholic? Oh, yeah. Still are? Yeah. You're Catholic? Yeah. Are you really? Oh, yeah. Do you go? I would occasionally. You believe in the Catholic God? Yeah. I didn't know this about you. And you're going or no going? I go with my family occasionally on holidays. Yeah. Out of fear.
49:34We go out of fear. You being Catholic is really sending me. Oh, Massachusetts, man. But still to this day, Catholicism I'm very surprised by that He's listening right now I guess I don't know much about your politics
49:50We're pretty good friends I feel But I don't know much about your politics actually Huge Jeb Bush woman myself Big Jeb voter I clapped I was really bad at history So what I do is I just get my politics From my most progressive friends And that's where I go off of You know, my mom is a really sweet lady who is not political. Yeah. And I have to check in every once in a while. We had a check in this morning. I checked in about ice. I was like, just want to make sure you know what's going on and want to make sure you're up to date and you hate this and you feel really like this is a bad thing. Yeah.
50:23Because I'm sure she and she does. And of course she does. Yeah. And she was like, yeah, she was like, this is so fucked up. I'm so upset about it. Yeah. And I was like, good. But you just she's a nice enough Midwestern lady. Yeah. That like if a really loud person in a room says something convincingly, she doesn't go along with it or believe it. Yeah. But she'll scratch her head a little bit. From athletic stuff like a full court pickup game, swish, to athletic-ish stuff like a half mile stroll. Get those steps in. Head to Sierra or Sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all.
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52:00I'm like, okay, I'll follow the girlies. This is where we're going. Yeah. This is where things are headed. When the girlies post about, I'm like, okay, this is where I stand on this. That's where you get things. I'm politically very, very stupid. Are you? Yes. Yes. Wow. History, I could never, cause and effect, I can't understand why the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand led to World War I. And you could sit me down. I didn't know he had passed.
52:27I'll have to send something. That's so sad. To the Ferdinands. Yeah. They're family friends. I know. We have a Sherlock house. It's a long story. I know. You saw the chicks with them. Yeah. Well, I've never seen the chicks. No? Do you know that? I keep getting robbed. What do you mean? I've seen the chicks. It keeps getting stolen from me. I keep meaning to go, and then I got tickets to the chicks, and then I had a job I had to go do. My friends went to the chicks without me on my tickets, my seats. On your dollar? Yes. Well, not my dollar. They were given to me. But, well, maybe I did pay for them.
53:00But the point is, I've never seen the chicks live. They're my favorite band. Yeah. But I've always missed them. I was supposed to see them in Kansas City with a friend. Couldn't be there. Had to be off for work. Have you communicated with them? The chicks? Yeah. They don't speak to me. They don't reach out. And I know that they've heard of me because I talk about them so much. It has to have gotten to them. Yeah. They don't reach out. I think that's really good for them. I think that's wise. Yeah. I want to someday meet all of them on... One of them just opened a laundromat. I'm very proud of her.
53:25Cool. I believe it was Emily. I went to one of those and I was like, I want this for a closet. Laundromat? Like how big all those things are. You know what I'm talking about? The moving thing? I'm afraid I don't. Oh, dry cleaner. Yeah. You're talking about the dry cleaner. I'm thinking about a dry cleaner. That's beautiful. I think that you should have that in your closet. That's what I want. I was just in a hotel with a walk-in closet. That didn't feel like I should be in there. A Sex and the City walk-in? Not quite. Okay. Not quite, but it was nice. Yeah. It was nice and I felt like I shouldn't be.
53:51When I'm in nice places sometimes I go, they know that I shouldn't be in here. Oh, same. Yeah. They go, you should have never come here. No. The way I'm watched in every nice building I'm ever in. Yeah. And they make sure I check out. My check out time is like 7 a.m. They give you a special one. Yeah, 6 a.m. You have to check out at 7. Check out at 6. Yeah. Yeah. And check-ins at 9 p.m. Yeah. When we were in Madrid, we stayed in a hotel that had a 24-hour indoor pool. we were the only ones using it, and we went crazy on it. I crunch these numbers in hotels. There's probably a billion people in the hotel.
54:29Yeah. At any given time. Zero goose egg in the pool. Yeah. No one's enjoying the pool. The only place they enjoy the pool is at a hotel like The Line, and it's on the rooftop, and it's not even meant to swim. It's three feet deep. Yeah. It's meant to overdose. It's for hot people to like. It's to Richard II die in after too many mimosas. Yeah. It's for hot people to get a little wet and chat with each other. That's what they're for. Yes. I'm here to swim. I want a big-ass body of water. So straight up, I want to race. I ask people to race in the pool all the time. Yes. You're racing? Oh, I want to race.
55:02I want to race from this side to that side. I'm here to swim. You're doing handstands? I'm doing handstands. I want to do belly flops and shit. I'm here to play around. My cousin has a pool, and she's got these little kids, five-year-old, and one was on my back. Little kids talk to me the same way that, you know when you go viral outside of your fan base, the way people comment on your shit? Yeah. That's how kids talk to me. He's on my back. I'm swimming through this pool. Yeah. He whispers in my ear, you even have the neck of a woman.
55:36Well. Are we in jail? That's a beautiful compliment. That's a beautiful compliment. That's like a true quote from Deliverance. Women have beautiful necks. And no one hears. he knows to whisper that and none of the adults hear that he's aware he knows he shouldn't be saying that out loud but anyway yeah any opportunity for a pool I'm in it I love to swim hot tubs? I used to base social circles around who had the hot tub in high school yeah of course I want to get one you ever got hot tub folliculitis? come again? so if they don't clean it out you can get a bacterial infection called hot tub folliculitis and I actually have a Spotify playlist that's really good called hot tub folliculitis because me and all my friends, we were like, hey, is anyone else's nipples sore?
56:23And it was hot tub folliculitis? We all got this thing called hot tub folliculitis in 2019 from this decrepit, because the amount of care that a hot tub almost bankrupted my friend's family in high school because they used to get this guy called the Aquaman to come over, like nightly, to fix this thing. Otherwise, you get a step above black mold. You get like generational mold. from hot tubs if you don't take care of them. Yeah. So be careful if you get one. Get the cedar kind. It's why I haven't gotten one so far is I know how much work they are. And I neglect my things. It's like owning a horse.
56:54Yeah, okay. How do you mean? Just to care. You know, oh, the horse is going to colic if I don't throw it a carrot. If I don't do brain teasers with the horse. Our horse is known to be high maintenance. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. They live well into their 70s, I think. Do they really? Can we Google that? Life expectancy horse. Life expectancy horse. I would say maybe 48. It's okay. 25 to 30. So we Googled it. It's 25 to 30. Rent a car. Yeah. Oh, ponies might live into their 30s or 40s, though. So wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Don't go. Don't go anywhere, Nicole. Would you bring it back? A 40-year-old horse.
57:35Living conditions can push lifespans with records exceeding 50 years. Okay, so the record is like the 50s. I feel like I'm a 40-year-old horse. Do you? How old are you? 38. No one knows for sure. 38. It's not recorded anywhere. The doctors believe 38. Yeah, we think. Yeah. Based on the rings. You're 30. I turn 31 next week. I forgot. We're Aquarii. We are. When's your birthday? 29. Oh my god! Happy birthday almost. And you're having your birthday party in the Arctic Tundra. I can't, but I... Where do you have to be? I got the doll. The stickies. You have the sticky awards. The stickies are in Buffalo.
58:12I have to go. I have to grace the green carpet When you turn 30 Tell me about it, what happened? 30? Best year of my life I exhaled for the first time Chris, I'm dead serious I felt a relief Do you know when someone needs to be stabbed a little bit To let some blood out? That you have to let blood? Do you know? When you have an infection Like a really big infected leg in a war movie And they have to stab it Did you grow up in the 1910s? the Ferdinands my family friends I think I know what you mean I felt like that I felt like I let loose I was like when I turned 30 I was like oh because there was so much pressure in my 20s I felt to be like I am young and I'm living my best life and I'm 20 something and I turned 30 and I was like well I'm still young but I feel like ah my 20s are over I accomplished them it's the first time I ever stayed still you wouldn't believe I don't believe that you stayed still I in terms of not if you think I move around a lot now.
59:13Me in my 20s, truly like a true cryptid. The amount of the ground I was covering, never stopping. I was famous at parties for the second I would make someone laugh. I'm out of here. That's great though. I'd be every, I would never be in the same place. And then 30. You've relaxed a little bit. I love that and I feel the same way. Yeah. I'm turning 31 next week. What about, do you remember anything about your 31st year of life? And be honest, for once. No, I don't. I don't. No? No. I mean, I don't. It doesn't matter anymore. No, no, no. It stops mattering. It doesn't matter. Prince didn't count his birthdays.
59:54Rest in power. One more time. Prince didn't count his birthdays. Rest in power. Well, I still didn't get it. I'm so sorry. Prince. Prince. Didn't count his birthdays. I thought you were saying Prince didn't count his birthdays. And I thought we were talking about the institution, Prince. Don't get me started on Prince didn't count his birthdays. He didn't? No. He was a weird guy. Prince, I'm not mad that he didn't count his birthdays, but he was always up to something. The fucking symbol. He was an imp. When I learned about the symbol, it pissed me off. Oh. Just be Prince. My mom, I think, punched through glass when that wound up in our house.
1:00:30But he was Christian. He was Jehovah's Witness. And he was straight. Oh, yeah. You just could never see anything coming with that guy. You know, he opened for the stones, and he got pelted with Michelob Ultra bottles. Really? So much so that he flew back to Paisley Park, which looks like a Macy's if you ever go to it. Yeah. And he flew back that night. He was like, never again. Wow. He was in like bikini bottoms. Yeah, they didn't like the way that he presented clothing-wise. And Keith Richards says he was behaving like a king even though he was just a prince. That's why he got pelted with the bottles, you think?
1:01:01According to Keith Richards. Yeah, I don't think that's probably why. I think it's because he looked gay at the Rolling Stones show. I think it was the gender bending. Yeah. Don't gender bend. Yeah. Don't bend gender. if you want to open for the Rolling Stones. It's probably the headline. Don't open for anybody. I'm going to be in gender, I think, in my 40s. Oh, yeah? Yeah, right now I'm still locked in on boy. I think I'll do they. I think I'll do like a gender freak thing situation in the 40s. Long one? I'll freak it a little bit. Yeah, like maybe a rat tail with some beads in it. That'll be the beginning.
1:01:30That, of course, won't be the extent of it. I'm not. That wouldn't be the extent of my gender freaking. 40s are, for me, I'm going to do the crop tops. You're going to crop top in the 40s? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. You're turning 39 next week, a week or so from now? Yeah. We're almost to crop tops. 39. Oof. How do you feel? I don't think about it. You don't think about it? No. I feel good. I feel good. I was freaking out like a couple years ago, but now I'm feeling like. You were freaking out a couple years ago about your age? Yeah, and not accomplishing as much as I was hoping to. And then I feel like, you know what?
1:02:00I actually feel like expressed and like at peace with. Where I'm at age-wise. What did you want to have accomplished that you didn't at that time? Oh, probably global superstardom. Don't piss me off. Yeah. Is that really it? Yeah. You wanted to play stadiums or something? Oh, I'm totally Machiavellian for a while. Are you being completely serious with me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That doesn't feel like you at all. I'm accidentally niche. I mean, I was...
1:02:27I didn't want this. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't want to have to be here. No. You didn't want to be on the So True podcast. You wanted to be like... You wanted to be the guy. I wanted to be here, but yeah, I wanted Regis Philbin. I looked up to a lot in middle school. I used to wear his ties. Really? I don't find that part surprising at all. Now what it is, I get recognized in a lot of Buffalo exchanges. Yeah, that makes sense. And Whole Foods, a lot of husbands glaring at me because their wife follows me. Yeah. I've never clicked on a wife and it's not said follow back. Yeah. I cannot tell you the number of, it's 50-50 whether a straight guy is going to come up me and be like my biggest fan in the entire world or my wife or girlfriend and he won't admit to also liking my stuff it's really insulting when they tell you someone else likes you yeah yeah like but what about you you know yeah what do you think of me they don't they can i get a picture for my girlfriend i'm like i guess what's that gonna do i guess yeah you must be like getting getting it everywhere uh airports yeah it's it's been it's been a lot more in the last couple years I mean, yeah, that makes sense, I guess.
1:03:34I guess so. I try not to think. I like, you know in Men in Black when they do the thing and it wipes your memory? Well, they did it to me, so I don't remember. But yeah. I try to do that after every like, can I get a picture interaction? To yourself. Yeah, I try to just pretend it didn't happen. Because you don't want to build that. I don't want to become like a monster. And I fear that I would if I really held on to that. For me, it just cures my posture a little bit more every time. You get a little bit more upright. Yeah, I get, yeah, yeah. I uncurl a little bit. Yeah. Every time I get a little bit of that.
1:04:03How are your joints and bones? I'm very loose jointed. Yeah. So they're pretty good. Have my dogs been out the whole time? Yeah, I'm just going to turn you a little more to your camera just because it's a halfway visual medium. You and I have been slowly turning towards the fireplace the entire episode. Have I just been like a villain the whole time? Back to just seeing the back of my head? Yeah, it's been like your voice is going to be like this in the episode. Like you're informing on somebody. Yeah. Do you think you would ever fall prey to a cult? uh no i uh i would want to run it i believe that i will start one same i believe that i will start one yes on a farm in portugal i believe and i'm looking up properties i believe i will start a cold on a and i don't want to is the thing yeah i just don't think i have a choice what would it be like i think things will get weird enough it wouldn't be sexual i can tell that not at all and it wouldn't be either it would be sexual only in the way that everyone gets to sleep with whoever they want and you don't have to yeah i wouldn't do any of the stuff where you have to sleep with someone or you can't sleep it's normal life normal world rules on sex i could see you branding but calling it a tattoo 100 yeah yeah i think things will get weird enough in the states that all buy some property in portugal yep that seems imminent you love property i'm like not i don't think i'm as low on the list of state enemies as i would like to be at the moment i think i'm probably on there somewhere and i think it's only going to get weirder the more they start to eliminate people ahead of me.
1:05:29Yes. And then I'll buy some property in Portugal. I'll invite a bunch of people to hang out because I'll be bored. And then they'll be like, well, why don't you guys just live here? And they'll be like, we can't afford it. And I'll be like, I'll pay the bills. Communal living. Yeah. You guys just work on the vegetables and I'll pay for the house. Anytime. Women can do that. Women can do communal living. Anytime a man gets involved, that's when the cult starts. You think so? Always. Women understand community. We don't. We understand power. And the women can do that. Am I crazy to think that I understand community?
1:05:59No, you understand. That's how the cult starts. That's how the cult starts. That's it. Yeah, we can't understand community. But it's about power, really. We're too ego-driven. That's so scary. You might be right. I like to think I understand community, but I guess maybe underneath it is about power. Maybe I really would. But this is what I'm saying. It would turn into a cult. I know that it would. Everyone moves to Portugal. They can't go home because things have gotten weird. Who would be your Maadon Sheila? Holmes. Yeah. Holmes. Yeah, because that is the hardest position in the cult. because you just kind of can do that.
1:06:31Yeah. Yeah. Holmes has to do the executive functioning stuff. Executions and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, executions. Well, eventually there'll be executions. I can't stress enough. I don't want there to be. I don't want it to be a cult. I'm just saying, yeah, eventually I'm going to be like, that person's really getting on my nerves. And then Holmes is going to be like, I'll handle it. And then they're going to wind up dead. I don't want it to, but that's of course where things are headed. That's a much more optimistic vision for your future. year i have two visions for my future when i'm eventually canceled for dead naming myself i i think that when i'm eventually canceled for dead naming myself i think that i will end up for me what i see is uh a couple things um giving bath bomb reviews from a low security jail yeah i see that or finding myself in a misery situation which one uh the uh debates or the guy the guy oh yeah i feel bad that i don't remember his james con james con you have it have you looked in the eyes of a supporter of yours and been like they would misery me i i actually and i'm not kidding i just told a close friend the other day i'm almost certain i'll get killed by a fan same i've talked about this i'm not kidding i've met i've met one in particular where i was like well that's how i'm gonna go and there's a piece in that it's like it's like when you meet a friendly when people truly have ghost interactions yeah they're not they're like yeah yeah yeah oh yeah there's a tap dancing woman upstairs.
1:07:55That's how you feel when you meet the person who will kill you. Yeah. You know. I want to be the fan that kills you. I want to do it. A mercy killing? Yeah. Just when the time is right. I don't want to do it too soon. My parents considered mercy killing me. Really? No. Sorry. Because what if? Sorry. As a child, I saw this. When you got your knee surgery, they're like, we got to just end it now. It's only going to get weirder. You got to. I do. I do not want to kill you, but if someone has to. Do you know what I mean? Totally. Cuckoo's Nest. Yeah. You would, you know, in the end of Cuckoo's Nest.
1:08:28Oh, you don't want to give spoilers. Yeah, don't spoil. If I get lobotomized or like if I start doing too much SponCon. Yeah. Cuckoo's Nest me. Depends on how much you make and I need to see the figures. Well, remember I was going to do that thing I told you about, but that fell through last year. I don't remember it now. I'm so sorry. I was going to be a Peter Pan for a certain type of company. You were going to be a Peter Pan. They were going to get me a horse. I was going to get to ride in Dallas. You did not tell me this. You did not tell me this. Yeah, it was going to be a life-changing sum of money.
1:08:55Unfortunately, it fell through. I was going to sell out so big. I just had a brand deal fall through. You what? I just had a brand deal fall through. What brand? I don't think I'm allowed to talk about it. Panera? I think they're paying me a certain amount of money, and the part of the deal will be that I don't talk about it. Oh, shit. Is that what I got the kill fee for?
1:09:14I'm playing it safe because I want that check. but yeah they asked me there was a company that asked me to do a commercial for them for a large amount of money and i was like sure and then uh they were like oof we just found out that caleb talks about politics oh change of plans we're not gonna pay him and he's not working and then i was like i think we'll sue you like everyone was like should we sue them and i was like i think we sue them you're suing no we threatened to sue and then they've now they're paying me you're litigious but the it was really funny because i was like how did you not that's like the number one it's the most i imagine when you google me it must be something that comes up in the first two clicks how political you are that i'm talking about politics completely i can't imagine that it's not coming up for you so are they just seeing your followership or maybe they seen one clip i don't know what they saw but i do know that i'm now getting paid to not do anything for them and i'm pretty pleased about it isn't that weird that we have no idea what people are seeing like because when like your stuff gets put on tiktok that's not even through you like Like, people are seeing shit that we don't even know about things that we've done or said.
1:10:16Yeah. It's so weird. People quote things I've said to me that I do not remember. All the time. I black out. When I'm on So True, I black out. For me, the really embarrassing thing is people will say that and I'm like, ah! You laugh? And they're like, you said that. They're like, that's your joke, Chris. And I was like, that's funny shit. You are good. That makes sense. It's hard to remember the things that you say. Nobody likes my jokes more than me. Same. I love my jokes. I think that's the best part of it I think my little bits are really fun They are really fun I really enjoy them And by the way I'm not even really talking about my jokes I'm talking about when I'm hanging out with friends And I have some stupid little Verbal tick that I keep doing I will laugh so fucking hard At my own little That's the key to happiness I love hanging out with me I have a blast with that guy You're like the couple from The Notebook How do you mean?
1:11:08You're that in one it's like a romantic thing in love with myself that's the image that I had James Garner and Rachel McAllen's older do you James Garner I don't I'm pretty sure it was Ryan Gosling oh we're talking when they're old is that the old guy's name James Garner can we google old guy notebook name he was also in Maverick with Jody with Foster Noah Calhoun by James Garner. Thank God. Will you click James Garner? I'd like to see a little about him. Oh, he's great. Oh, wow. He's been acting for a long time. Look at that. He's 86 years old. Are we still with us? No, he's not. Oh, no. No, he passed.
1:11:56He's very much not. Yeah. Passed quite a while. Oh, he passed when he was 86. Oh, that's terrible. But he was, you ever see Maverick? You would love Maverick. Oh, he was married for a long time. 1956 to 2014, he was married. He died married. Oh, boy. Click his wife. You know what? Lois Clark, as in Lois and Clark? I'd watch. Yeah, they're cute together. I like them. Oh, click that one right below that one, Nicole. Put this one up. Put this picture up when we put the episode out. Put this picture up when we put the episode out. Okay, now, come on. That's us. That's us. Yeah, that's me on the left.
1:12:32I was going to say, it's pretty clear who's who. Yeah, I don't need to say. You know what? What? I don't know if this will happen or not. I don't think it will based on my entire vibe and how I am. Okay. But I did consider becoming a shirt and tie guy. Like a guy who wears shirts and ties a lot. This occurred to me about a week and a half ago. If you did that around New York, the Safdies would put you in something like that. Well, they're putting like people from Shark Tank in movies. Like I don't think that's prestigious anymore. They're going in the sewers for their casting. They're grabbing guys from the bodega.
1:13:01I want to be a shirt and tie guy though. I'm considering it. That's a really good idea. Like just on a Tuesday, just out for dinner. I feel like you got to... Here's what it is. Say it. Your style, and this is the thing about style, if you like something, it's like the joy that you feel about an article of clothing. You have good style because you like the things that you wear, I presume. And if you want to do shirt and tie, you want to do poodle skirt. It doesn't matter what you're doing. You want to do hazmat suit. It doesn't matter. If you like it, that's going to be style. I mean, you would wear suits on the road, remember?
1:13:32I did the last tour. I felt like I had to. yeah playing theaters i just felt so like i felt such a massive responsibility it's i was like i can't believe you guys are paying for this and driving there to like i was like you're coming like i was like i need to like yeah i need to do good i must wear a tie you can't show up in your pjs like you're gonna take the sat's i might next time yeah the tie thing got afforded that the tie and the jacket thing got old quick i would say night four of the like 27 night tour i said this was a mistake i got a picture you're looking like willie lowman backstage i don't know who that is.
1:14:02Death of a salesman. He's a character? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen it. It's a play. I read plays just because it's faster than books. You read plays? Yeah. Chris, you're so... No, no, no, no. It's a cheat. I'm not smart. Caleb, you are just... I need to be like you. No, you got the brain that I don't have any access to. You got the civics brain. I do have politics brain. You're right. But I want to have reading a play brain. What are you talking about? You're doing that just for fun? I just love plays. What's your favorite one you've ever read? Oh, Burn This. Would you ever do a play with me?
1:14:39Yeah. Oh, we could do Burn This. What's Burn This? Oh, I could play the coked out guy that John Malkovich played. And then, oh my God, and you would be the friend. This is brilliant. I don't think I want to be the friend. You're like, I'll play the interesting guy who's coked out. The friend is the lead. you would be the lead and I come in occasionally. I don't enter until I think even act two. Yeah. And then I burn bright fast and then I'm out. But you would be carrying it. I just told Mateo Wayne that I would do a musical with him and then when it kind of circled back around I said I didn't mean it.
1:15:16No. Because the way the light's going to hit those biceps. Yeah. You can't. I'm not going to. It's like having an animal on stage. You can't compete with that. Yeah. That's right. But that's the same with you. I'm not going to be able to compete with your energy. Yes you are. Your energy and your gorgeous locks. I'm going to be bald by then and they're going to be tired of my energy. That's where you come in. No, I felt like I think we had a good thing on stage together. Me and you? Yeah. Oh, I feel that we do. Yeah, we definitely do. Then we just need a woman. Oh, let's not do it. I don't want to.
1:15:47What woman would we hang out with? I can't think of one. Do you know any? Nicole? Nicole, will you do it? I do it. Perfect. It's done. The other lead. Friend of the friend. I forget her name. Wait, what woman would we cast in it? Let's make it a woman we don't know. Okay. Give me two qualities of the woman. Alicia Vikander. Yeah, it's done. Yeah, it's done. I want that house so bad. House? And the Ex Machina house? I haven't seen it. Oh, yeah. Ex Machina. Alicia Vikander is a robot that lives in the most exquisite house you've ever seen. She's a robot with a house? Mm-hmm. Or she belongs to the house?
1:16:24She was built in the house. She's an AI. She's an AI. Yeah, this was 2016 AI. Yeah. So she's hot as hell. Ex Machina? She's a hot AI who has a house? And the guy Domhnall Gleeson is this classic San Francisco guy who could get catfished by a Waymo, and he falls in love with this... You put fake lashes on the headlights of a Waymo. Yeah. It could catfish any guy in San Francisco. Yeah. He falls in love with this AI, and Oscar Isaac built it, and he's a psycho. You know, I just learned that a famous Hollywood actor has an AI girlfriend. Me too. And we can talk about that after.
1:17:08Right. So what's going on with that? We'll give a clue. Everyone's talking about it. Mr. Tumnus.
1:17:17But what is going on with that? He's bringing it to like... He's telling people about it. And he's bringing it to the restaurant.
1:17:26people are so humiliating yeah but this is good for the culture actually yes we need celebrities to be more insane because it will be so destructive it's gonna the best way to stop something is to sexually turn people off to it yes and this the way that makes me want to sterile get sterilized yeah i but i do i want celebrities to start being insane again i'm tired of i'm bored with them i've said this many times i'm bored with these people they're boring. We need people to be insane again. I want public beef. Yeah, we need someone taking a nine iron to a windshield. Yeah. You know what? I'm going to say it.
1:17:59Jordan Firstman sounding off on the heated rivalry guys over sort of nothing. Absolutely. I loved it. Oh, absolutely. I thought it was awesome. But then didn't he have to bring them like an ice cream sundae? Yeah, they had to like smoke cigarettes at an event together or something. Yeah, because Zasloff was like say you're sorry. Yeah, well they had to because they're all gay guys who work for the company. Have you seen it? I haven't seen a heated rivalry, no. Have you? Oh, yeah. How was it? Unbelievable. Did you find yourself horny? No, I found myself weeping by episode five. So that's not what I've been hearing.
1:18:29Well, I do think it's... I could be wrong. I do think it's more for the feminine sexuality because I think what I've learned from it is the way women talk about it. It's like, I think a woman's biggest kink is time. Yeah. And it's all about like... I don't know that I understand this show. It's all about... Time is the biggest character in this. They play hockey in it. Yeah, but it's mostly about three weeks later, eight weeks later, you wouldn't believe how many time jumps it is and how long it takes for them to... It's a slow burn. Yeah, yeah. Women like a slow burn, I think, from what I've learned about women, and I spend time with several...
1:19:14Long game. They like the long game. Long game, yeah. Yeah, okay. But you should watch it. It is... I've heard it's great. You're going to do the accent nonstop. The Russian one? Yeah. Okay. Hollander. Yeah. Hollander, you do retail fold after we hook up? Yeah. I worked at Aeropostale. Wait, he talks like that? The other one? The other one is like, he's really... Oh, he's like whining? Fine. Oh, so he's the bottom. Hollander, I need you to relax. Is he the bottom? Their verse. Yeah, I think... He's the bottom. Yeah. Right? I mean, I haven't seen it. Thank you, Tony. You're not going to love this.
1:19:47What? The Russian's a clown in reality. The one who plays. Oh, the real guy, the actor. So it did clown in LA. Of course. Everyone has a moment. I mean, of course, I got to a dark enough place. I never took the class, but I clicked around. I clicked in. I saw the details of the clown class. It's like the artist's way. You have to get to a dark enough moment. You have to get to the lowest cavern of your life. You'll find yourself doing morning pages with a gun on the desk. this is what these things are I did the morning pages of course I did them and it did almost nothing for me but I loved it because it was something that other people had done and I thought that was nice completely I was participating you know there's a lot of things that would be cool if this were the 70s and you think the morning pages is one of them clown I'm thinking Jonah Hill's weight loss he got small for that role some role He got small again.
1:20:46Yeah. We're not supposed to talk about it. But I just was surprised I saw a photograph. Yeah. I was surprised by the camo he was in. He was in a lot of camo. He's wearing camo. I haven't seen this. Yeah. Maybe I didn't see because he was just so small. I couldn't believe my eyes. They don't want you to talk. We're not supposed to talk about it. I know that that's not. We're not? Weight loss, we're not supposed to anymore. Okay. I've learned, you know, you're not supposed to talk about it. But I have saw that he got quite small. I'm noticing, you know, when people get smaller, I notice. Yeah. And I wonder, are they on the stuff?
1:21:13the drugs? I like when they get smaller. Shorter? Yeah. I like aging. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. I think I'm going. You think so? What are you, 6 '2"? Yeah. Yeah. You think I'll get smaller? We are. We're getting smaller. Nose is going to keep growing. Ears keep growing, I think. Is that true? Yeah, yeah. Nose keeps growing. You have been in Europe. Is that true that nose keeps growing? The nose. Is that true? The nose keeps growing. Yeah, supposedly. This is Chance's biggest complaint about me. Every time I come back from Europe, I have a new verbal tick. I have a new thing I say. Are you dropping cheers?
1:21:48Oh, cheers. Yeah, I'll do anything it takes. I mean, I just learn things over there. Did you go to England? No. No, I can't go to England anymore. Neither can I. I've been too many times. They're so cold 9 to 5, and then they have their first bottle of wine. And in the streets, they're not talking to me all day. And then the second I go outside when it's dark out, a woman comes up to me. She says, let's have a look at you, love. tears my jacket open. And her husband's just like... Yeah, he's mad. I did go to Dublin. Everybody Irish hates... They're so embarrassed and sorry to be Irish. Really?
1:22:26Have you noticed this? I know one guy who has a lot to say about the homeland. They say, what are you doing in Dublin? Oh, I'm so sorry you have to be here. I'm like, I'm having a decent time. They can't believe that you've come. They made a mistake. They're an interesting people, the Irish. You were just there? I went there before Amsterdam. Ooh. I was there. I had a nice time. Yeah. Went to a castle for New Year's. Had a lovely time. Wait, you were gone that whole time? Yes. You just got back. I got back yesterday, Chris. There's nobody in the world that I would have done a podcast with today other than you.
1:22:59I feel like you also did like a crazy flight last time we talked. And you said it felt like there was a gas leak in the room because you were so tired from the plane. Yeah. What was that though? Was that just coming to LA? Yeah. I think I found out later on after that episode that I had a COVID and something else.
1:23:17I think after that, I was like, oh, I feel so crazy. And then I think I found out like a week later that I had like three illnesses. You kept like, you kept kind of like collapsing into your chair. Yeah. And being like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah. But something's wrong with me. I was very unwell. Yeah. I thought it. Okay. Okay. I thought it was like a combination of me and jet lag. No, I thought there was a gas leak in the room. and then I think I found out that it was a jet lag and I had a couple of illnesses. Me and a handbag of illnesses. Totally. And jet lag. And by the way, getting jet lag going from New York to LA is humiliating.
1:23:51It's like you shouldn't really be that affected by the flight. It's like you slept on the plane overnight. It was red eye. You're fine. Oh, you took a red eye? Or something. You know what I mean? It's like you take them at the right times. Planes fuck me up. Yeah, do they? Oh, so bad. I didn't enjoy my flight here. The flight back was tough. We spent too long on the runway, so my edible wore off. And then I couldn't sleep on the actual flight, so I was just up, and the Wi-Fi was spotty, so I couldn't really get anything done. Yeah. And I had a gay guy flight attendant, and he wasn't charmed by me.
1:24:21You tried to charm him? Always. I love to have the flight attendants be on my side. Usually, if I have an older woman, we'll get on, like, a house on fire. They hate me. Flight attendants. The last one I had, she yelled at me, you had one job to do. What? I was supposed to stay seated to lead an example for no one else to get up what I was at the front of the plane and I got up to do I was tinkering and she yelled at me you had one job when was it expressed to you that this was your job immediately she told you your job is to not stay done I've never been on a flight or something like this has happened it was eerily empty to the flight there was like 30 of us I've never been given a chore when I got on the plane You have a special relationship with strangers because that has never happened to me.
1:25:07I have a horrible relationship with flight attendants. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I usually don't. There's a couple bad eggs. I've talked about it on the show. There's a couple bad eggs. Me and some flight attendants have gotten into it. Mostly we have a lovely time. But gay guy flight attendants, they're either like so gay guy and they know my work and love me. Yes. And they're like, diva, to have you on my flight is a delight. Or they're like a TGI Fridays gay guy. I'm a TGI Fridays gay guy, Chris. No, but when I say that, I'm thinking of a TGI Friday's gay guy. You don't have to walk it back.
1:25:40I'm a TGI Friday's gay guy. If there was a Jack Damler sampler here right now, I would be overjoyed. I have DoorDashed a Chili's triple dipper to my home more than once. Yeah. I love, I love. I am financially ruined by DoorDash. What are you doing on there? DoorDash? What's your go-to? Boba. I guess I do know that. Outside of boba, what else are you doing? Is it literally just boba? Bolognese? It's a meat sauce. From where? Pasta with a meat sauce. Anywhere. If I see bolognese, I'm powerless before bolognese. Really? Oh, yeah. And I try to not eat meat, but if I see bolognese, I gained, I think, 11 pounds when I visited Italy when I was younger on bolognese.
1:26:26You rendered healthy. And four cheese pizza. Quattro famaggi. Pizzas. What did you say? You speak another language? A little. So, un petit peu. We'll go with no. I don't. I don't. We'll go with no. I got my ass kicked in Spain. They were not enjoying my attempts at Spanish at all. You speak it? No. A little, a tiny survival bit, and they were not happy with me. Yeah. Because I'm loud and fat and American. Hey. It makes them mad. No, you're beautiful. When I try stuff. And American. No, you're beautiful and American. Yes. And bad at Spanish. Yeah. Which is true. You were just kind of on a three-week, two-week journey?
1:27:05Three. Popping around, Chris. You're living life. Looking for inspiration. Seriously? Found some. Yeah. Found some inspiration. Yeah. Mostly just had a nice time. Yeah. Had some decent sex. Had some fun sex. Are you going to keep talking to them or what stays in Europe? I think one of them is coming to my birthday party. Okay. Three were invited. A costume party. There were three guys that I hooked up with in Europe that got the invite to the birthday party. One came. That was the next step. I think one of them might come. That sounds almost like a fairy tale. He's welcome to come. I'd love to see him there.
1:27:36Three were given the invite and one took it. I think a few of my situationships will be at my birthday party. Great. And I'm excited to see all of them. I think the one who comes from Europe. That's the prince. I will say if he comes from Europe, he'll be the one that I lock in with. Yeah. For the night. Wow. Maybe. I mean, if you catch a flight that long. Not even the week. No. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not a week This is my problem Chris I really need to get serious about my love life How do you say get out I'll say you need to go
1:28:13No I'll say this was so much fun I need to be alone now You would never No I'm so bad at No I couldn't Chris I got so locked in talking to you That I totally forgot we have a game to play Oh yeah I don't know what this is. Truth or false? Yes, dude. True or false? Let's lock in. Okay, how have you... It's 1 a.m. How have you done on this in the past? Uh, 0%. Okay. I think I got booted off the stage when we did this live. Well, live, everyone was so naughty. They always tried to give the guests the answers. They wanted to see me lose money. Your crowd was incredibly naughty. My fans are rowdy and raucous.
1:28:52A crazy bunch. Yeah. I'm going on tour again. You'll have to come do the show. No way. Yes. Oh, my God. Potentially in the summer. We're waiting to find out. Potentially in the summer. I've been cautioned against... Actually, can I say something real quick about my tour? I'm being told that I should not tour in the summer. If I launch a summer tour, you guys better buy these fucking tickets because I'm fighting to go on tour in the summer. You want to know why I want to tour in the summer? It's warm. Every day I want to swim. I want to wake up, get off the bus, go swimming, and then do the show.
1:29:24I think that'll make it more fun for me. That's a really good idea. I think it'd be nice to swim every day. It's also a low-impact workout. Exactly correct. Yeah. And it'd be fun. Swim in 30 cities? I want to swim in 30 cities. Yeah. Chris, I'm going to read you 15 statements. Okay. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can. Roll some more shit down the hallway. Yeah. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can. Someone's rolling the loudest thing I've ever heard down the hallway. Yeah. There's something wrong with this building. I recently learned that one of the guys who produces Taylor Swift's albums has a studio in this building.
1:29:54Oh, my God. Is it one of those, like, dorky guitar? Sorry, sorry. Chris, please. Chris, please. He's my neighbor. Have you ever seen there's like these guys in their 50s who play guitar for Taylor Swift and they all kind of act like they're the ones that people are coming to see? Oh, I like that. Oh, it's so good. I like that. I am obsessed with those guys. I like that a lot. Yeah. I'm going to read you 15 statements. She like high fives one and he like crumbles. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You know I have to do it. I know. It's part of the show. Okay. I'm going to read you 15 statements. You can tell me as quickly as you can of what I just said was true or false.
1:30:26If you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 US dollars. Wow, okay. Tommy Lee Jones is a Harvard graduate. Yes, he was roommates with Al Gore. Okay, true.
1:30:40The movie The Iron Giant came out in 1999. True. True. There are no reptiles in Sweden. Yeah, I mean, that's a Bob Dylan song, and it's also true. False. Fuck! The Departed won the Best Picture Oscar. Yes. True. Neil Armstrong drank Pepsi on the surface of the moon. No. False. Lance Armstrong's nickname is Big Tex. False. True, it's true. It's false. Which one are you going with? False. It's true. Only four U.S. presidents have visited Antarctica. Dude, I don't know. You got to answer, Chris. I don't know. It's the game. True. False. None have gone. Squirrels mate for life. No presidents have gone?
1:31:22They haven't gone. Even on their own time? They won't go. I'd make a Camp David in Antarctica sorry I got Boba in the mouth I'll make a Camp David in Antarctica you're like totally choking on Boba at this point in the show squirrel's mate for life
1:31:40yeah that's true false a female picks a new mate each year a female squirrel go diva Burger King is older than Wendy's true True. Earth is gradually rotating slower each year. I hope not. False. It's true. Skidmore College's motto is under the shield of divine love. That's false. It's creative thought matters. It's true. What? Since when? Wait, what is the new motto? Under the shield of divine love. Oh my god. Under the shield of divine? That sounds like a meatloaf song. I don't write the facts. Oh my god. But if you think it's wrong, fight chance on it. Last comic standing ran for nine seasons.
1:32:21Yeah, sure. True. Tom Brady was born in California. Tom Brady was born in California? If that were so, he couldn't live in Massachusetts for that long. False. True. Aretha Franklin was the first woman inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Probably. Yes. No, it was Nina Simone. Okay, fine. True, it was Aretha Franklin. Yep. Anteaters. Last one. Anteaters are extinct. No, I've seen them around. I've definitely seen a video of an anteater. maybe like okay maybe the last one died like last night and all of its loved ones are around the bed and it's now finally it's loved ones not anteaters it's loved ones other species yeah just guys yeah yeah it's a bunch of guys what are you going with you're going with um they're not there's no way anteaters are and if they are i'm gonna be super fucking pissed so you're going with false yes It's false.
1:33:19How do you do, Nicole? Oh, nice. Is that good? That's nice. That's nice, Chris. Chris, that's a nice score. Don't worry about it. Now I'm worried about it. I wasn't worried about it until you said that. Six is kind of low. Yeah, it's a 60%, right? Six is kind of low. It's like a D minor. Six out of 15. I would be in directed study if I took this in a high school class. In directed study? Yeah, if you got below a C, you would have to do a course called directed study. but and I obviously got D's in chemistry so I would be put into directed study but my band teacher struck a deal with me and he said if you drum in our I'm not a drummer if you drum in our worst jazz band you can get out of directed study and I said okay only if I can have an unlimited time drum solo at the concert and I'll send you the clip it is funny.
1:34:09Please send it to me and also I love this school that you went to where like all these teachers are insistent on not teaching and are just like striking deals for different little pet projects of theirs. Yeah, that's beautiful. Chris, it was so lovely to have you on the show. So lovely to have you. Is there anything you want to tell the fans? Keep listening to Caleb. He knows best. And get Ugg's stuff. It's soft. We're not sponsored by Ugg's. We just like soft things. Ugg, you should spend some money on the show. Spend some money on the show. We've talked about you very kindly. Anything else? Where the people can find you?
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