In short
The episode is a conversation between Claude and Chance (friends/hosts) about friendship as “hope,” plus personal stories and light games. They start with ads (PayPal app/purchase protection/biometric security) and quick food/brand mentions (King’s Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites, Sweetgreen fall harvest). Topic highlights: coming out stories (one guest describes coming out as gay in Syracuse at Dinosaur Barbecue; another describes coming out publicly on Facebook as bisexual, then being outed by a high school hookup), friendship gifts (a “gift of hope” theme; one friend replaces a disliked couch and adds plants/art), and everyday life (being on time vs late, a stressful Uber lane mix-up that led to missing a meeting, and a typing-speed test).
Notable examples
the “Flying pig” miniature metal pig gift; the Syracuse “frat party” coming-out conversation with dad; the Uber driver yelling then taking a “happy birthday” call.
Guests
Claude (host/guest; musician/producer, moves to New York, writes music, smokes weed occasionally, doesn’t drink) and Chance (host/guest; musician/writer, fast typist, discusses coming out and friendships, lives in/near New York).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMonday Blues and Snacks
0:03 to 0:45
A light-hearted discussion about Mondays and sweet snacks.
“The new PayPal app is like that, but for your money.”
Sweetgreen's Fall Harvest
0:45 to 1:21
Hosts discuss Sweetgreen's seasonal menu and favorite dishes.
“Maple glazed, roasted, and edges perfectly caramelized.”
Adorable Dynamics
1:24 to 2:26
A humorous exchange about the hosts' physical differences and adorable quirks.
“I bought a pot that I'm not even sure like is kitchen safe.”
Chicago Family Visit
2:26 to 3:38
Caleb shares experiences from a family visit to Chicago during Lollapalooza.
“And chicken and Diet Coke is like, honestly, I'm alive because of it.”
Performing with Family
3:38 to 5:00
Caleb recounts performing with his mother at Lollapalooza.
“My family's in Chicago, and it was Lollapalooza, and I had a lot of friends playing.”
Rug Shopping Adventures
5:00 to 6:02
A conversation about a trip rug shopping and singing favorite songs.
“do you know what annie and i were singing i made annie go rug shopping with me yesterday annie de russo friend of the pod where'd you go industry city you're like oh yeah like like South, South Brooklyn.”
Coming Out Stories
6:02 to 8:00
Caleb and Claude share their coming out experiences with humor and honesty.
“You could ask me almost anything and you'd probably get away with it.”
Memorable Gifts
8:00 to 12:20
A heartfelt discussion about the best gifts received and given.
“And I, and at first I was like, man, crazy.”
Friendship and Support
12:20 to 14:02
Caleb reflects on a supportive gift from a friend that transformed his space.
“It was sad when they went out of business.”
The Best Gifts
14:02 to 15:12
Reflecting on memorable gifts given and received.
“You can't say the gift of hope via our friendship.”
Show all 29 chapters
The Challenge of Giving
15:12 to 16:20
Discussing the stress of gift-giving and personal expectations.
“I infuse it into all my friendships, and I think that that's probably the biggest gift I give.”
Cities: A Game of Preferences
16:20 to 17:28
Playing a game of 'Fuck, Marry, Kill' with cities.
“I didn't say LA because I wanted to be different, but it has to be LA.”
College Memories
17:28 to 18:37
Sharing nostalgic stories from college experiences.
“Wait, where did you go to college again?”
Life Lessons from Parents
18:37 to 20:02
Discussing humorous yet insightful life advice from parents.
“The people you meet in college are the ones that you know forever?”
Artistic Aspirations
20:02 to 22:10
Talking about music writing and creative processes.
“And I was like, no, I don't have time to nap today.”
The Highs and Lows of Being High
22:10 to 24:43
Discussing personal experiences with marijuana and its impact.
“I have a lot of clarity on planes, I'm realizing.”
Navigating Friendship Changes
24:43 to 30:21
Exploring how friendships evolve with life changes.
“This is how I am when I'm not hungover, too.”
Navigating Friendship Changes
30:24 to 30:50
Exploring how friendships evolve with life changes.
“The new PayPal app is like that, but for your money.”
The Art of Decision Making
30:50 to 31:59
Discussing the importance of accepting consequences in decision making.
“And there's always something I forget to say and then I really don't forgive myself.”
An Uber Adventure
32:00 to 35:38
A humorous story about an Uber ride gone wrong and the chaos that ensued.
“And then I was like, my response was like, I can't handle it when I make the wrong decision, which is why I can't make a decision.”
The Importance of Punctuality
35:38 to 37:45
Debating the significance of being on time and the frustrations of lateness.
“Like my whole body starts like freaking out.”
Typing Speed Test Challenge
37:45 to 42:01
Engaging in a typing speed challenge while sharing personal anecdotes.
“They're like, I'm impatient and I can't read a clock.”
Chance's NYC Move and Life Updates
42:01 to 44:30
Chance shares his experiences and feelings about moving to New York City.
“Chance, how are you feeling about your New York City move?”
The Struggles of Daily Life
44:31 to 46:06
A light-hearted conversation about daily chores, stress, and enjoying life.
“Okay, so that's tricky because lately I am really busy.”
The Importance of Kitchenware
46:07 to 47:19
Discussion about kitchen essentials and the excitement of setting up a new home.
“And I've actually only ever used one or two of them.”
Rug Shopping Experiences
47:20 to 49:18
Caleb and Chance dive into the challenges of buying rugs and the absurdity of prices.
“it topples over but the pan matches that's nice and that topples too okay that's not good you got the toppling set but it was so exciting to buy it yeah it is fun to do that stuff so fun i have some plates of my own.”
Canceling Plans and Social Etiquette
49:19 to 51:48
Exploration of how to gracefully cancel plans and social expectations among friends.
“Honestly, I bet a lot of people have it.”
True or False Game Segment
51:49 to 56:01
A fun and rapid-fire true or false game with trivia questions.
“I just also feel like if someone does it to you enough and you're annoyed by it, you can stop inviting them to things or whatever.”
Casual Conversation and Personal Insights
56:01 to 57:00
Listen to a light-hearted chat where Claude shares personal anecdotes and insights.
“The world's longest coastline is in China.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This episode is brought to you by PayPal. You know how a mom's bag has everything? Sunscreen? Snacks? A stapler? The new PayPal app is like that, but for your money. Shop, pay, manage your account, and earn rewards all in one place. And with purchase protection on eligible items, biometric security, and pass keys, you're protected at every step. Download the new PayPal app to get started. See paypal.com slash protection terms. Ugh, I hate Mondays. King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Swirl Bite? Taylor Hanson? Sure, I'll try one. Mmm. Hey, let's get back to work, please. But Taylor Hanson's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites.
0:44Taylor Hanson? Nice. Try one. Mmm.
0:51King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites. There's nothing like it. Sweet swirly is all good.
1:00Brussels clean up nicely at Sweetgreen. Maple glazed, roasted, and edges perfectly caramelized. Sweetgreen's fall harvest is back on the menu, and the season's most overlooked little green vegetable is dressed to be devoured. You know what to do. Order on the Sweetgreen app.
1:20This is a HeadGum podcast. I bought a pot that I'm not even sure like is kitchen safe. It has like a cute like round red lid with like a blue circle. And like you can't sit really on the stove without balancing. It kind of topples over. Yeah. But it's so cute. So one of the worst qualities for a pot is that it topples over.
1:51Claude
1:55Claude you're so cute I low key love you so much The only way I can sit on this couch Without like Like fully going toddler mode Is if I sit a little bit forward Well you're small I'm small You're small And that's really adorable And honestly perfect about you Thanks And it's what makes us a really funny pair To see out in public That's true You just couldn't be smaller and I couldn't be bigger. And together we form a hilarious odd couple. We're perfect together. We're perfect. When people see us on city bikes, they're like, look at those two people who shouldn't know each other. Father, son. Father, son.
2:28And you're the dad, by the way. Yes. And I'm your giant son. I just love you. How you been? I've been good. Will you tell me about your heart? My heart? Your heart and your soul? My heart and my soul is good. I just came back from Chicago. Chicago. It was like It was Lollapalooza But my whole family And when I'm back in Chicago I feel it Another version of me I do love that song I mean it's such a good song Yeah but your family's there You were saying Yeah Okay I'm hyper I just had a Diet Coke And some chicken And I'm like ready to go Like an espresso shot Truly when you have chicken After you've been hungry for a while It does feel like you've been infused With energy from God Right Right, but turkey puts you to sleep.
3:14Turkey, not something to fuck with. But chicken, we're so up. And chicken and Diet Coke is like, honestly, I'm alive because of it. I mean, that powered a lot of people for a long time. I think that was like how they did the covered wagon rides. I think that's how they must have done it. They settled the West on Diet Coke and chicken. You've heard it here first, folks. But your family's in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My family's in Chicago, and it was Lollapalooza, and I had a lot of friends playing. and so I went to visit family and I went to Lollapalooza and I got my mom like an artist wristband and she was running around backstage you got on stage I did Shelly performed with Clara well performed is generous we like danced we danced it was like sometimes I'll sing with her but this particular day was like there were flight delays and she got in really last minute and like there was just like we just got our headphones on like right before getting onto the stage like singing was like impossible like it would have been so i would have sounded terrible caleb yeah that's okay you wouldn't have wanted to hear that sometimes that happens i always sound terrible when i sing and i do it anyway for love of the game you're so good at singing no i'm truly around the house you should hear me it's insane can we hear a couple bars yeah what do you want me to sing um i don't know there's a song called end of beginning and when i'm back in chicago i feel it another version of me really good that was so good actually hit yeah that was amazing do you know what annie and i were singing i made annie go rug shopping with me yesterday annie de russo friend of the pod where'd you go industry city you're like oh yeah like like South, South Brooklyn.
5:10South, South Brooklyn. It's like Restoration Hardware Outlet, West Elm Outlet, Design Within Reach Outlet. All of them are within a block of each other. I keep looking directly into the camera. It's fucking Rug City. Look in the cameras. That's what they're there for. The audience loves it. They're like, I can't. You're a handsome young man with a beautiful smile. Look into our cameras. We put three of them here to capture you. I made Annie go rug shopping with me, and we were singing, and I don't want the world to see me. That is the best song. Iris? Yeah. Because I don't think that they'd understand.
5:44Sorry, name a better song. Name a better song, Iris. No one writes it like that anymore. There was a moment in the 90s where music got made. Before and since, there has been very little music being made. It's like you and three of our friends. I feel like a lot of music is being made No, it's you and three of our friends and no one else is making music anymore That's it, it's me, Kevin and Annie Your three musician friends My three musician friends, I only have three and there will be no one that listens to this podcast Katie Crutchfield is going to send me a furious text You and four of your friends Yeah, so I have four musician friends Yeah, that's it though Something about laying back on the couch is making me feel very silly.
6:30You could ask me almost anything and you'd probably get away with it. I feel really comfortable right now. Yeah? This is power. How did you come out?
6:43As gay? Yeah. We actually have a really good story about it. Oh my god, I'm so glad you asked. Hang on. You bouncing around on this couch! I'm just trying to get comfortable. so I was visiting
7:01I was well I mean I feel like it you know it always happens many different ways yeah wait should I actually tell you was that I wasn't sure if that was a rhetorical question no I'm having fun okay well I went to visit Syracuse with my dad where I ended up going and I was like you know visit weekend for accepted students whatever and And we got dinner that night at Dinosaur Barbecue. Of course. There's only two places to eat in Syracuse. Yeah. Dinosaur Barbecue and Positabilities. Exactly. No, it's true. I forgot about Positabilities. It's the only two restaurants, the Red Sauce at Positabilities and Dinosaur Barbecue.
7:41That's it in Syracuse. It's really that. Those are the two best. I had to film a movie in Syracuse. I know. You were just there for a very long time. And so I know a lot about the town now. Okay. I love it there. Yeah. You had, you, I went for college. You went for work. I have a complicated relationship with Syracuse, New York. So that's tricky. That's tricky. Yeah. They had us staying in a hotel off the highway. And I, and at first I was like, man, crazy. They're putting us at a hotel off the highway. And then you look around Syracuse and you go, I don't know that they had much of a choice. There's not, there's not, there's not a four seasons, but did I like Syracuse?
8:14It doesn't matter. Did I, did I enjoy a couple of meals at dinosaur barbecue? Yes, I certainly did. and that is where it came out
8:25I had like one sip of my dad's beer and I was like I have to tell you something and I was like I was like I think I had hooked up with one person one time and I like told my dad I was like I'm seeing someone I was not seeing anyone Yeah, yeah, yeah. What'd your dad say? He was like, so does this mean when you go to Syracuse and then you go to a frat party at Syracuse, does that mean you're not interested in the guys there? And I was like, yes. That's exactly what that means. It was like how, like, it was like such a sweet way to phrase it without having to be like, I think I'm gay. You know, it was just like, when you go to a frat party, like, who are you interested?
9:19First off, no one because it's a frat party. First of all, I'm not there. I'm not there. I've never been to one. Well, you know I was in a fraternity all four years. I forgot. People do forget this about me. Thank God. What? Thank God they forget this. I feel like you would have been like social chair. Were you social chair? Close enough. President? No, I was the - Treasurer? I was the pledge educator. CEO? What's the pledge educator? Yeah. I think we were technically called new member educators by the school, But it was like when people joined the fraternity, I was in charge of like making sure they pass all of their like membership requirements, like tests about the fraternity and getting their community service hours and doing all the requirements to join the fraternity.
10:00Because, you know, you pledge for a semester. Right. So their first semester, it was a lot of their first semesters of college. And it was actually really cool because a lot of them had just started college. And I kind of became like a de facto like counselor for them. I feel like you would be really good at that. It was nice, actually. I mean, in other fraternities, it's like, this is the guy who hits you and makes you drink. Right. But I was like, and don't forget to call your parents, you know? Because you were gay. Yeah, of course. Yeah. How did you come out? To whom? Like, what's the best story you've got?
10:31The best story I've got, I... Did you come out in college? I came out publicly in college after my freshman year. Okay. I came out in a Facebook status as bisexual.
10:47I came out to my mom the day she dropped me off at college and then I immediately went and hooked up with a guy a residence advisor what's the funniest way I came out probably I was hooking up with a guy friend of mine in high school and he really wanted to come out but I didn't and so then he outed me to like three of our close friends no that's horrible and then I was like I could either deny this or just run with it I was pissed and devastated of course shout out but he's a very good friend of mine to this day and I don't blame him by the way it's like I should have just come out to them we were all very close It doesn't mean he should have done it, but it's fine that he did.
11:19But then to the girls that he kind of added me to, they were like, is this true? This is what he's saying. And I was like, yeah, I guess if he's saying that, it's true. And they're like, okay, why didn't you tell us? And I was like, I don't know. And they're like, okay, well, anyway, do you want to go to Applebee's? Right. And I was like, yeah. Right. Right. And then we went to Applebee's, which is fully where I worked. Right. You worked at Applebee's? Oh, yeah. I was a neighborhood expert. Wow. Yeah. That's sick. Did you ever drop in high school? Yeah, I worked at a toy store. Fuck yeah. You'd be so good at a toy store.
11:48I worked at a toy store called Tales and Toys. Knock it off. And it went out of business as I was working there. Yeah. Which I think makes a lot of sense. Did you get free toys? I didn't get free toys. Fuck. It was such a cute store. That's where I got my toys when I was a kid. My toys came from that place and even had the same wrapping paper from when I was a kid. So when I would be like wrapping presents, the paper was so nostalgic for me. Yeah. That's so sweet. I know. It was sad when they went out of business. It's a big toy. What's the best present you've ever got? As a kid? Or in life in general.
12:26What's the best gift anyone's ever given you? And you can't say the gift of hope from our friendship.
12:34You can't say the way that our friendship has gifted you with hope. You have to say something different. Okay. What's second on my list? Right behind hope from our friendship. Yeah. The gift of hope. from our friendship? I have given you the gift of hope via our friendship. What is the second best gift you've ever gotten? Okay, okay, okay, okay. I know, I know. When I was growing up, there was this store in, I have no idea where it was, somewhere in Chicago. And it had all these little yard metal little statues at the store. And I wanted one so bad. And my dad's like, you don't have a yard. And I was like, I really want one.
13:14And I think for my birthday that year, he got me a miniature metal pig with wings, and I put it in my room. Oh, my God. I put it in my room. No. Fuck. I wonder if he does, though. It really is really hard to hang on to. It's kind of clunky, and you really do need a yard for it. Yeah, I was in my room next to my bunk bed. I was like, this is the best thing anyone's ever gone to me. That's a really sick gift. Slept next to it. I loved it. What did you name it? Flying pig. Of course. I think I just referred to it. Flying pig. Where's my fucking head? What am I talking about? So yeah, the gift of hope that I've given you via our friendship and then the flying pig from your dad.
13:54And then flying pig, yeah. That's beautiful. Two best gifts. What do you think is the best gift you've ever given? The gift of... You can't say the gift of hope via our friendship. The gift of hope via our friendship. I go like this. Yeah, I can tell that sitting is a real challenge. She was on the couch. That's fine. It's not our couch. She was on the couch. Yeah, it's fine. Don't even sweat it. Okay. Best gift I've ever given? Come back to me. Easily. Anyone else in the room? What's the best gift I've ever given? I'm not good at giving gifts. I don't give gifts, and I don't really like giving them.
14:31I'm trying to think the best gift I've ever gotten.
14:38You know what? What? When I was on tour most recently, my friend Carly, Carly Kane, friend of the pod, shout out. Carly went over to my apartment, got rid of my couch that she knew I didn't like, and brought in a new one that I had picked out. Put it in there for me, and then hung up some artwork and brought in some plants. I kind of spruced up my apartment while I was gone, and I came back. That's so nice. It was the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me. That is so nice. Probably, yeah. That's so thoughtful. Yeah, really nice. I really love that. That's really sweet. And gifts I've given, probably just the gift of hope that I give to all my friends.
15:12Right. Yeah. Well, it's a very generous gift. Yeah. I infuse it into all my friendships, and I think that that's probably the biggest gift I give. Wait, you don't like giving gifts? I just don't like getting gifts, so I don't participate in giving gifts that often. I find it very stressful when people are really into birthdays and gifts. That just really stresses me out because I don't care if you do it for me, so I just want you to love me the way that I love you. That's really sweet. You know, which is to not be stressed out about gifts. I love giving gifts. That's beautiful. I like, if my gift is ready a couple weeks before I'm supposed to give it, I'm like, I want to tell you.
15:49That's so sweet. Let me tell you. That's really sweet. I love that. I love giving gifts. You've never given me one, which is okay. It's no big deal. The gift of hope. Just the gift of hope from our friendship. Isn't that enough? That is enough, actually. What do you think is the least hopeful you've ever been? That one's a joke. Don't answer that. Don't answer that one. Don't answer that one. No. Okay. Let me ask you this. Fuck, marry, kill. Chicago. New York. Atlanta. Don't say. Chicago, New York, Atlanta. Yeah. No. That's too easy. I didn't say LA because I wanted to be different, but it has to be LA.
16:31I know. It has to be LA. Fuck, marry, kill, Chicago, New York, LA. No. You have to answer. I don't want to. Boston, Chicago. New York. I was in Chicago, New York. Okay. Uh, I feel like I'm going to get like, so I feel like there's no right way to answer this. Cause everyone's going to be mad. No, I would. Oh yeah. You two are also. I know. Don't answer this. You actually tour. I tour too, but comedians can be mean to places they tour and get away with it. I've never tried to be mean to the places you've never tried to be mean. I don't think in general, I've tried to be mean. Really? Yeah, I think so.
17:02Well, when you left the room earlier and you told everybody to be nice to me, I said you could say whatever you want I'm still going to tell him you were mean that was mean that's really nasty of you and then I said just kidding
17:20like immediately this couch is tough right because I'm not quite comfortable it's just not really off the ground at all do you need this pillow no thank you though I think maybe I'll just do like this I look bad hold on I'm going to stand up real quick don't cut any of this you look amazing well it's just like the thing of it is this feels really comfortable actually stand no we can't everyone's gonna get mad because the cameras oh but i'm gonna try sitting like this okay this is better for me is this good yeah my back just hurts really yeah but i think that's just because i've been moving and then now i've been sitting for a long time because we did z-ways episode right before this okay and so now my body's like what's going on are you active or are you lazy make a choice right it's retaliating what's the laziest you've ever been uh summer always every summer yeah it's a lot of summer i'm like it's summer it's lazy time i'm on the couch and sleeping a lot my laziest era was for sure my last semester of college i like truly did nothing i moved i moved never i laid him i was so depressed i laid in bed i took my meals in bed like a victorian woman who was dying.
18:31Wait, where did you go to college again? Missouri State. Go Bears. Go Bears. M-I-S-S-O-U-R-I State. We love it. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. Wait, you went there too? That's where we met. Wow. Yeah. That's so nice. Yeah. The people you meet in college are the ones that you know forever? Is that the saying? Yeah. Chances are kind of like a... Do you know when you receive a parasite that you can't get rid of? That's what Chance has been to me. It's just like that. But you do begin to love the parasite because you don't know yourself without it and it's causing you to lose weight or whatever.
19:09You find things to like about the parasite. Chase, that's so nice. Chance. Chance? I know. It's the weirdest thing. I'm so sorry. Don't be. He loves it. This is only our second time meeting. I'm so sorry, Chance. But that's one too many times. Do you think it's so weird, though? I'm not kidding. I have never in my life experienced something with The name Chance, people cannot get it. Don't be. It's Chase every time. I always say Chase the Rapper. No, it's the name. I'm telling you. It's not the guy. It's the name. I'm kidding. Oh, do you not? Because people really do have a problem with that. I come from a really long line of people who, one, get names wrong, and two, get phrases wrong.
19:50Yeah. Like yesterday I was walking, not to keep talking about my dad, but I was like, oh, I'm so tired. and you know, Lollabluza. Yeah. And he was like, do you have time to nap today? And I was like, no, I don't have time to nap today. He goes, well, when you get older, you'll die. And I was like, do you mean you'll sleep when you're dead? But hear him out. When you get older, you'll die. But hear him out. That's what he said. In his, in his incorrectness, he made a brilliant point. When you get older, you'll die. And you will. It was really like shell shocking to hear that. I was like, what dad?
20:27You're like, I'm a little sleepy late. He's like, we're all going to die. You're like, fuck. Okay. But he meant to say you'll sleep when you're dead. You'll sleep when you're dead. Yeah. That's really funny. He was close. Chic. Yeah. You should have him on. He's kind of my diva. Like some people have pop divas. Your dad's like my diva. Yeah. He's like kind of like you're like, what? Beyonce? Yeah. Or my like Madonna or something. Right. You're Madonna. Yeah. He's like the diva that inspires me. My North Star diva. He's your Waxahachie. He's my Waxahachie. Dadahachie. yeah Waxadadji there we go yeah what's his name Todd Todd Ahatchie I told him I was told him I was going on a podcast today he told me to kick ass I think you are I think you're totally kicking ass it's not a soccer game it's not a soccer game but you're totally kicking ass in a way thanks don't you feel yeah this is only the second podcast I've ever been on what was the first I don't know if that's true but the second one I remember being on what was the first girls rewatch podcast oh nice what did you talk about well what episode did you do did you do do they do specific episodes we were on broad city which broad city is like my favorite show ever and so which i was really excited to do and it was the shania twain episode fun and like rupaul's first appearance on the show really it was a really good episode really fun and wanda sykes first appearance on the show wow big episode it was a huge episode those two are great And I still just managed to talk about myself the whole time.
21:57Yeah. Instead of Abby and Alana. That's okay, though. Sometimes we're just supposed to talk about ourselves on podcasts. That's kind of the point. Really? They can be whatever we want them to be. Really? Yeah. Huh. Are you working on any music right now? I'm trying to. How's it going? It's good. Like, it's good. I have a lot of clarity on planes, I'm realizing. Like, I'll be writing for weeks, and then I'll take a plane ride, and I'll be like, this is terrible. This is amazing. Like, it's just, it's so clear to me for some reason when I'm on a plane. But when I'm writing, I'm like, it's like very cloudy.
22:31I just don't know what's going on. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. What about you? Are you writing music? Are you? Yeah. Can I produce your album? Yeah. Are you kidding? If I made an album for real, you could definitely produce it. Really? Yeah. I don't see why not. I'll tell you something. I'm being really good today. I'm moving. I'm packing. I'm doing all the things I'm supposed to do. I'm being very responsible. tonight I'm going to get a type of high on marijuana that they frankly might outlaw soon like I I'm going to get comatose high on marijuana tonight in a way that you can't even almost believe I'm gonna FaceTime you tonight and screen record it and then post it and put it into this episode yeah we're gonna retroactively edit it into this episode right you edit it right here yeah I don't get do you get high?
Read the full transcript
23:17not really I smoked a lot in high school and I think that See, I didn't. I'm opposite. Do you know that theory of like you only have like 11 good smoking years in you or something? That really scares me. Nine? Seven? That really scares me. Eleven? Sorry. Which one? I don't know. I think it might be seven because 11 feels like a lot. Seven. Or maybe even four. I did those seven, I would say. I didn't start smoking weed until I was 26 or seven years old. Oh, really? Maybe 27, yeah. Wow. I never did before that. oh you missed like smoking weed in high school and like going to 7-eleven and getting a slurpee i think that's really good that i missed that it was so fun i know but i didn't need it i think it was good that it didn't find me then we would see like a cop in the 7-eleven and be like
24:05just getting our slurpee sir and we're allowed to by the way that's so fucking funny oh my god oh my god oh my god that's so funny no now i'm just getting Now I say I get high like maybe twice a week. That's a good number. It feels okay. What do you do? Do you watch a movie? Sometimes. Watch a movie. Go on a walk. Go out to a bar with a friend. Hang out. Hang out. I don't drink. That's over for me. I'm not drinking anymore. Okay, cool. Drinking's got to be over. Totally. I think we might need to end drinking in general. As I'm hungover right now, I would agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, today you're on board.
24:40I was out until three in Chicago last night. You're hungover on my podcast. I'm really sorry. I didn't want to say it. Claude. I know, but it's fine. It is. I'm doing amazing. It really is. You never would have known. You're kicking ass. This is how I am when I'm not hungover, too. I will say you seem very normal to me. I didn't really drink that much. You seem like yourself. Hungover from the night of just being awake. That's just the gift of hope you get from friendship. Being up too late. Exactly. The gift of hope you get from friendship is the theme of the episode I've decided. Can we title it that?
25:11The gift of hope you get from friendship. Too long. Too long? Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. What'd you say?
25:23Chance, I don't know if the mic will pick it up, but Chance just off in the corner of the room going, it is a gift. Shut up. One time, one time, one time that was me. I was on mushrooms and I was, I had a duplex apartment. It was like two bedrooms. I had three roommates. It was like two bedrooms on the top floor, then a staircase that went like right into the living room kitchen and then two bedrooms on that floor. And I was on mushrooms and I was sitting on the top of the stairs and my two of my roommates were like having a conversation in the kitchen. And they were talking about like. This these people we knew from college and like the guy was like always leading the girl on.
26:08And I knew these people from eight years ago or whenever. her at least I thought I knew them I actually am not even sure if I really do and I was sitting on top of the stairs and I was like you're right like he does lead her on and I was like crying and I was like it's so true like and she's so sweet and he like I just don't think he even knows he's doing it and then like five minutes later I hear them go hello hello they're like someone there no for five minutes that is so funny oh my god i'm crying i was like responding to their conversation yeah thinking they heard me and i was part of it one time i was uh helping a friend move who was uh on my bad side and so i was talking negatively about them while we were helping them move and i had moved i had moved the mattress a mattress that i was on the front end of carrying a mattress behind me like kind of like this and my other friend was behind and we were carrying it together right out of the house and then we're walking down the street to the car to like put it in there and i start talking shit on the friend that we're helping move not realizing that that friend had taken over the back end of the mattress from my friend so i was talking shit to them about them without realizing it so i was like i was like yeah i just don't know what the fuck he's thinking like god he's like he's like totally like i don't know even what i was saying but i was talking so much shit and then i turn around when we go to put the mattress and he's just like hey and it was so fucking awkward that sucks but also i wasn't wrong so i was just like i literally spent sorry went back and grabbed more stuff from the house what's your friendship like now uh really strong he's but it's complicated because he's um he has a really important job he's um he's the president which is like so random yeah of the country and so it's just like hard because he's like obviously i don't feel like he's switched up but he's just gotten really busy right right like so he's it's been the same as he's always been no he's like still my friend is in there somewhere but it's like he's busy and like yeah he's just been like we don't talk as much on the phone as we used to as much as you'd like i bet that's really hard but i remember the good times and like I have hope that when he's not in this job anymore like we'll like kind of get back to the way things used to be but yeah sometimes you can never go back to the way things used to be right I mean but we used to have so much fun yikes yeah it's hard sometimes really big job and they like I don't want to say he's changed because that doesn't feel fair but like yeah he's just like going through with something right now so like and that happens and that's like sort of the cycle of friendships like yeah but you know when you get on the other side of this your friendship's gonna be stronger than ever i had somebody tell me once that when your friend gets famous you have to give them three years to be really weird i think i know who told you that yeah yeah who grace maybe or did i tell you that because grace told me that someone told me someone in our friend group is spreading this and yeah that's what's happening with um dj okay oh this donald i yeah i just call him dj it's like from back in the neighborhood Right, not totally.
29:21Yeah, I just hope that he'll, I don't know, I just hope he'll come out on the other side of this job, like the guy that I used to know. He's not taking the fame well. No. It doesn't seem like. It's gone straight to his head. It's gone straight to his head, and he's being like, yeah, I don't know, we just used to joke about stuff. We'd be like, oh, you know, whatever, but now it's like he's really doing really crazy stuff. I thought we were kidding, but it turns out he was serious. that's really you thought everything he was saying was a joke yeah like you'd be like oh my god DJ that's hilarious we used to hang out back in the day and he'd be like I'm gonna do mass deportations and I'd be like DJ but then no he straight up is right which is crazy oh Caleb I'm sorry I know it's hard and it's hard but sometimes your friend succeeds and like things change I can't even remember why we started talking about this well that's because it's gone on for so unnecessarily long it's like the podcast is over I think he's going to be like, he cannot still be doing this.
30:19Yeah. Anyway, no, let's change the subject. This episode is brought to you by PayPal. You know how a mom's bag has everything? Sunscreen. Snacks. A stapler? The new PayPal app is like that, but for your money. Shop, pay, manage your account, and earn rewards all in one place. And with purchase protection on eligible items, biometric security, and pass keys, you're protected at every step. Download the new PayPal app to get started. See paypal.com slash protection terms. You're right. I'm very forgetful. Yeah. And there's always something I forget to say and then I really don't forgive myself. Yeah.
30:57Because I really want to tell you things. Maybe instead of trying to be better at remembering, you could get better at forgiving yourself. One time, Caleb, I asked you. Oh, my God. Chance, don't cry. It's okay. Chance is crying now because I'm so profound. Chance. One time, Caleb said to me, One time you were like, I was like, Caleb, you're so good at making decisions. Do you remember this? I was like, you're so good at making decisions. How are you so good at making decisions? And you're like, it's not that I'm good at making decisions. It's that I can handle it if I make the wrong one. Yeah.
31:28I tell a lot of people this in my life. I tell so many people that in my life, too, because you told me. Yeah. Well, that's what it is. People say this to me a lot. I have a lot of friends that are indecisive and struggle with decisiveness. and they asked me the same question of like, how are you so good at making choices? And like, it's not that I never make the wrong choice. It's just that I know that if I make the wrong choice, there will be consequences and I'm prepared to handle them. Right. And that's just what, you just have to get, you don't have to get better at making choices. You have to get better at accepting consequences.
31:58Right. That's all. It's just so good. Thanks. And then I was like, my response was like, I can't handle it when I make the wrong decision, which is why I can't make a decision. that's really fair anyway i'm gonna get into my story yeah tell your story okay so i was it was it was like a really really really hot day and i was the train the trains weren't working and i was running late to a meeting and i had to take an uber to the west village yeah do you know this story yeah i love this story wait how do you know it did i tell you when we were biking oh yeah yeah is it okay if i tell it now of course it's for them not me i'm nobody i'll tell you guys I was in an Uber and I was so I was heading into the West Village from Brooklyn and I was heading up like 6th Ave and 6th Ave turns like one the far left lane goes to the Holland Tunnel which goes to New Jersey and it's always like so backed up and I was in this Uber and the Uber like I was the whole ride was supposed to take like 25 minutes and I had been in the car for like 40.
33:10Jesus. Because he was like kind of not, just he wasn't driving great. Yeah. And so we were in the city and I was like, oh my God, like I've already missed the first like 20 minutes of this meeting. Like this is horrible. And we're sitting on 6th Ave and I'm like, okay, finally. Like it looks like the traffic's like breaking up on 6th Ave. Like the Holland Tunnel lane is like standstill traffic, but there's three other lanes going up 6th Ave that are just like flying. I was like, okay. Like I'm texting like be there soon. and I'm like texting, texting. I look up and I'm like, we're sitting in the Holland Tunnel Lane.
33:42Yeah. And I was like, oh no. Like if we go to New Jersey, like my whole day is over. Like I'm in the super for another hour. So I was like, excuse me. God, I cannot imagine you trying to do this. I know. Cause I was like, I know I'm not like, I never say anything ever. Yeah. Other than like, how's your day going? You know? But I was like, excuse me. like I think this is the Holland Tunnel lane and we're already we've been sitting in this lane for so long it's already like the dotted lines are gone like it's a single line like we're about to turn left into the Holland Tunnel and I was like it was a fucking nightmare it's a nightmare it would have added like an hour yeah and I think uber charges me for that so I was like excuse me like I think you might be in the wrong lane and then he just starts like yelling at me and he's like you think i'm in the wrong lane why don't you drive the wheel like well like i will i'm sorry like i'm sorry like get in the passenger seat i'll drive and he's like i'm in the right lane this is the right lane to be in like i was like i'm so sorry i said anything like totally like keep going he's like i can drive the car like i'm gonna drive the car i was like okay okay and then his phone rings and he answers immediately and it goes on the car phone and it's like happy birthday And that was after like 40 seconds of like back and forth.
35:02And then we went to New Jersey. And that was my birthday present to him. It is so funny for him to be screaming at you, get a happy birthday call, and then do exactly what you were worried about. I was like. King. I was like, look what we've done now. Where we ended up. There are people missing me in the West Village right now. I missed the entire meeting. That is so funny. Did you get forgiven about the meeting? Yeah, I was fine. I'm like early. I'm always early. Yeah. And so when I'm running late, it's like a fighter. Like my whole body starts like freaking out. It makes sense. That's not your nature.
35:44No, it's not my nature. I have a problem where anytime I'm early, my friend will inevitably be late. And so that's just my luck in the universe. Yeah, yeah. So it creates these wait times for me that are like 40 minutes. Where like I've come 15 minutes early and they've come 30 minutes late. Right. And it has amounted to me sitting here for 45 fucking minutes. That's tough. And so then I'm more upset with them than I even deserve to be because I exacerbated it by being early. Right, right, right. And the whole thing is just a nightmare. That is really hard. And I'm not European, so I'm not okay with this.
36:15No. I think being on time is really nice. I love being on time. Maybe this is my hot take. Yeah. Being on time is like, I think it's really rude to be late. Yeah. I really do. I think it's so rude to be late. I know. I try not to care so much because things happen, but it's like, man, I really don't. I feel bad when I do it, and I really don't like it when people do it to me. I don't like it. Like, I don't like it. I text people when I'm running four to five minutes late. Yeah. I say like 10 minutes before if I know I'm running like five minutes late. Yeah. I say, I'm so sorry I'm running five minutes late.
36:50Be there soon. To me, it's seven minutes. Seven minutes is the moment where it's - Because that's 10 almost. Yeah, seven's where it's like, now I'm looking around going, where the fuck is this person? Right. Five minutes I go, of course. Seven minutes is when you need to say something. Right. 20 minutes is when you need to be very apologetic. 20 minutes is like, you've done something crazy to me. Yeah, yeah. 15 - You didn't plan correctly. Exactly. Or someone died in front of you. Like, something has to have happened that was crazy. If you're regularly 20 minutes late to stuff, I do feel that you're rude.
37:15I think that's really rude. But some people have really bad time management skills. It's like you're born with it. They just don't know how to get somewhere on time. Yeah. I struggle with empathy for that. Me too. I really do. Because we teach it to kids. We teach it to kids. Sometimes adults tell me things that they struggle with that I'm like, for sure. But you do have to solve that now. Yeah. Like, I'm so sorry that that doesn't come natural to you. But it is time for you to go ahead and solve that. You understand that, of course. You know, it's been 50 years. They're like, I'm impatient and I can't read a clock.
37:51It's like, fix it. Yeah. Read a clock. Fix it. I don't know what to tell you. There's a certain point where like you just need to work on that. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. That's a tough one for me. I could practice more grace though. I can't. I could stand to. I should. Okay. I shouldn't. I should, but I can't. I know that I can't. Yeah. That's crazy. I'm like a ball of fury sometimes. Really? no i'm acting that sounded really adorable i'm acting i just get so rageful if you were ever sincerely mad at me i think i would cry i would cry if you were mad at me i don't get mad i i just get really worked up internally yeah just you know and then i like eat something and i'm fine yeah what do you think is your best quality uh that's such a good question and it can't be like a professional thing it can't be like how good you are at making music because i already know that uh well that isn't i'm i don't know my best quality i can type really fast nice yeah like on i keep seriously yeah i can type and i can do it without looking do we have a computer in here that's not being used chance can you pull up the this episode is brought to you by paypal you know how a mom's bag has everything sunscreen snacks a stapler the new PayPal app is like that but for your money shop, pay, manage your account and earn rewards all in one place and with purchase protection on eligible items biometric security and pass keys you're protected at every step download the new PayPal app to get started see paypal.com slash protection terms WPM test will you do a WPM test for us right now?
39:36I've never done that before it should be really slow Have you not? No, I've never done that before. I just think I can type really fast. Do you want me to do it first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you can do it so you can watch me do it? We are on the podcast going to do a WPM test right now. Chance, did you pull it up? What do you type? You'll see. Sentences? Chance, bring it to me first. I just remember this one time. My mom, I think I get it from my mom because one time I was telling her a story. You have to keep telling the story and narrate while I do this, okay? Wait, okay. One time I was telling my mom a story.
40:04I was like, my teacher is being so crazy, giving us all this homework. And she's like, uh-huh, uh-huh. And I look, and she's going like this. Like, she's sending an email, and she's looking at me. Oh, she's sending an email, and she's looking at me while I'm telling her the story. And I don't think she's listening, because she's sending an email. But she's able to look at me. I thought that was really cool. That is really cool. I was like, when I grew up. One of these days. Yeah, exactly. Do you do home keys? Home keys. Like your fingers are all on the home keys in the middle, and then you just know?
40:38Or is it all just free finger? No, no, no, no. That's crazy. Wow. No, it's planted. Can I see what you're doing? Can I hear it? It's the one-minute version. Oh, my gosh. Am I allowed to say, oh, my God, on a podcast? No. All right, I'm taking over. My name's Caleb. You need to hear me. I'm going rogue. This is so true. Are you going to edit this out? No. This is all... Right, right. That's pretty good. Okay, my turn. All you do is start typing and then the timer begins. In today's increasingly hectic and stressful world, Claude is taking their typing test now. So far, they have gotten through two words.
41:35It's not looking good for their speed. What can I tell you guys about me? Why Claude takes their typing test? Well, we're hoping to get a new studio for the podcast soon, guys. I think that would be really neat. We're going to see if it happens or not. I'm moving into a new apartment at the moment, which is very exciting. The address is... Just kidding. You wish, freaks. Go on. Chance moved to New York. I did. Hello. Welcome to New York. Chance, how are you feeling about your New York City move? I feel great. I really love my place. I'm excited to explore the neighborhood a bit more, but I've just been spending a lot of time inside, setting all my shit up just so I can be free for other things.
42:13Yeah. That's really, really good. Yeah, it's really great. We're really proud of you. Thank you. I got a piece of chicken stuck in my teeth. I'll deal with it later, though. No one worry. Claude is nearly done. Just a couple seconds left here on their test. I believe that they've already beaten me, but we'll see. It's hard. Okay. They got their score. What'd you get? Yeah.
42:35your accuracy was 96 % 53 words that's bad what was yours? mine was in the 80s and mine was also bad just so you know 53 words per minute? I thought I didn't know like I'm better when it's I'm just free flowing this one had rules this wasn't fair this wasn't fair this wasn't a fair test we should have tested you on your own writing yeah just to see what you could have done yeah yeah i'm coming up with it on my own you're still really fast i would have been really fast if i also if you had a desk and like a setup i just feel like an actual keyboard i know that i personally would have done better in that situation right so i can only imagine what you would have done amazing yeah a hundred probably even more i think i've done in the hundreds before really like i think i've done like a hundred eighteen hundred twenty really fast i was moving i will say that was really bad what I did.
43:26Yeah. The work I did. Yeah, your work there was tough. That's funny. It's also funny that the intro to this was you voluntarily saying that's your best quality.
43:41You volunteered that that was your best quality overall as a person and then did one of the slowest. That's so funny. Oh my God, that's so funny, dude.
43:59Wow, I don't know myself at all. No, I think you do because I think you're faster. I think the circumstances were rigged against you. I feel that. I don't think so. Okay, just say that they were so you come out looking better. It was rigged. Just lie on the podcast. Sorry, I keep moving this couch. No, it's okay. You and the couch have a complicated relationship. I can feel it. How's this looking? You look amazing. Really? Don't ever worry about how you're looking because you look great. Thanks, Caleb. So do you. It's really about whether or not you're comfortable and whether or not you enjoy your life.
44:24I am totally enjoying my life. That's awesome to hear. I think run with that. Keep enjoying your life. What percentage of the time do you think you enjoy your life? Okay, so that's tricky because lately I am really busy. And I find it hard to be busy because I get really stressed out about that. Yeah. I get more stressed when I'm not busy. Opposite. Wow. I have total belief that I will be busy again and that things will come my way. I do not have the thing where I'm like, oh no, I need to be busy. It's healthier. What percent do I think I'm enjoying my life? Percentage of minutes in the day, I would say I enjoy my life 92 % of the time.
45:04That's a lot. Yeah. That's awesome. I think I'm really in the pocket of enjoyment of my life. That's really awesome. Yeah. I try to really only, I try to only do things that I like, but sometimes you got to do the dishes. Sometimes you have to, oh my gosh. Or take out the trash or whatever. I have to do the dishes right now. I know. Like literally, I'm not speaking figuratively. No, I could feel that. I literally have to do my dishes. I could feel that there's a dishes problem going on with you. There is. They're not dirty dishes. Well, they are. I was going to say that. Well, then you do not know what we're talking about.
45:38They are dirty. Yeah. But they're not like, I rinse them and then I don't have a dishwasher. So I rinse them and then I put them in the sink so there's not like food on them. Yeah. But they should be, you know, properly washed. No, having a dishwasher is really tough. It sucks. You're living a really hard life. But I only have three plates, so it's not that hard. That's smart. That's how you have to live when you don't have a dishwasher. You have to limit yourself. I don't have, like, a table. So I never host. So I only need three plates. Yeah, just three plates. And I've actually only ever used one or two of them.
46:10Wow, one plate unused. Yeah. For sale plate, never used. For sale plate. for sale quad plate never use i have a red plate a yellow plate and a blue plate the red one i use the most why are they all different colors well i thought that that was cute it is cute right it is cute i just didn't know if maybe there was some other reason i wasn't thinking of it's very cute primary colors yeah because when i when i moved into this apartment it was my first time like living in my own apartment without roommates and it was the first time i was like i have to buy plates you know because usually i just been using my roommate's plates yeah and now we need clod plates i need my plates so i went to the store and i i had so much free will like i didn't have pots i didn't have pans i bought three plates red yellow blue i bought a pot that i'm not even sure like is kitchen safe it has like a cute like round red lid with like a blue circle and like you can't sit really on the stove without balancing it kind it topples over yeah but it's so cute so one of the worst qualities for a pot is that it topples there really needs to be stuff in it yeah so i do have this pot now the one thing about it is it topples over but the pan matches that's nice and that topples too okay that's not good you got the toppling set but it was so exciting to buy it yeah it is fun to do that stuff so fun i have some plates of my own.
47:37Really? Yeah. What do they look like? Oh yeah, well my ones in Kansas City have a big red set. Oh, I like that. All red. The red plates, coffee mugs, bowls, smaller plates. I feel like you have really great interior design style. That is very kind of you. I've never seen it with my own eyes, but I feel like you really do. I want to thank you for speaking on that, and I don't think that I do. Really? I think I have decent. Okay. But it's not, I just, there's some things I can't figure out spatially. I get that. I can figure out like a couch and a rug sometimes, but sometimes I end up having really basic taste on accident.
48:11Sometimes I'll like something and be like, you're low key basic. With what? Give me an example. Like the things I like. Totally. Like I'll like a rug and be like, that actually is an ugly rug and not in a cute chic way, but in a way where like a woman from Ohio would have this in her house. Like in an Airbnb. Identically correct. Even better than yes. You have Airbnb style? Sometimes on accident. Okay. Like I really will like something because it's, I don't know. Sometimes I just feel that my interior design taste is not what it needs to be. I think I like really pride myself on having stuff that is kind of really random.
48:48Yeah. And I recently went to a friend's house in LA and they had the same rug as me. And I kind of had like an identity crisis. That's really scary. I was like, that's my rug. Yeah. But your rug, my rug, that's my rug. Where'd you get it from? I got it from, well, an ad. I got it from an ad on Safari website. Internet. I got it on the Internet. I got it from an ad on Safari website Internet. Absolutely, brother. Like, really, it's tassel. Honestly, I bet a lot of people have it. Probably. It was probably like some horrible website like rugs.com or something. Rugs USA. it wasn't that because i know that one okay but all those like rugs usa waif bear target even they all have the same rugs if you notice that yeah and they advertise to people like us they advertise to queer people in brooklyn because they're like you don't want to spend three thousand i'm telling you i went rug shopping yesterday some of them were in the seven thousand dollar range that's insane and i said you just have to be kidding it's really crazy obviously i won't do it i had a budget that had a high budget, but I was like, I will never in my life spend even a half of that on a rug.
50:02Rugs are really expensive. They are, it's crazy. And the lower budget you go, the more people have that rug. And the more that the rug actually sucks. It slips, slides. You get a cheap rug and you're like, this is ugly, looks bad, feels bad, slips and slides. I'm sliding all over my apartment with this rug. It follows me into the kitchen.
50:22It's a damn rug. This gosh darn rug. thing about rugs is you should do stand-up about your rug thing about rugs is they slide that was that by the way I would laugh at that I'm horrible at stand-up I tried it one time but don't ask but sometimes I feel like I have this recurring dream that like oh no I have to do stand-up like the opportunity it's not even an opportunity it's like I have to do it so sometimes that anxiety comes into my real life so I like have to practice jokes on my partner of course yeah and they are so lucky I'll be like like and then do they like it do they laugh or no I think it's like 70 % that's a good hit rate I know many comics would kill I'm like I am so funny in private I believe you and then you put a microphone in front of me and it's like I have three plates.
51:27And that was your big, yeah. And no dishwasher. Three plates was your big closer. Yeah. Oh, I have a question. It's called what's so true to you. I think that if you're canceling plans, I think we're like past the part. Like, I think we're past the age of like, you don't have to say why you can just say, so sorry. Can't make it anymore. Have fun. Yeah. I don't think anybody should expect a novel of like, why? Oh my God. You know, there's chipmunk you know you can't yeah traffic yeah you know you know squirrels like yeah squirrels are always part of it too that's the hard part i like i don't know i don't it's not helpful to anyone yeah because there's always a lie involved yeah of like oh just had the longest day you know and i don't want to i don't want to get a paragraph about it and i trust my friends enough to be like I can't come and know that it's for a good reason.
52:19Yeah. Or even a bad reason. And that's okay too. Yeah. I just also feel like if someone does it to you enough and you're annoyed by it, you can stop inviting them to things or whatever. But it's like, yeah, I'm with that. I'm like, don't send me a reason. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And if I'm, if we're close enough, I'll be like, why not? Yeah. Yeah. Or like, I'll ask you want to talk about it. Yeah. I'll be like, what's up? Everything cool. Yeah. But I don't think people need to. You're right. I feel like to another thing I'm thinking of, I think you said it. on here once is like the nicest thing you can do is go to someone's birthday party the nicest i really say i think that if you don't go to a birthday party then maybe give a little bit of an explanation yeah it's hard though because everyone's always having one i know think about how many birthday parties you get invited to in a year and only one of the best things ever happens to me is when i get invited to something i don't want to go to and i'm out of town the way i get to text back to that no no get yourself comfortable
53:15I'm really far away Okay I'm ready You feel set? Yeah The way I get to respond to a plan when I'm out of town for it is so gorgeous to me I get to respond so like Oh no I'm out of town I respond like an heiress who's like gonna be I'm like oh darling I so would kill to see you then Right Unfortunately my travels have taken me elsewhere I love the way I get to like a magnanimous like I get to respond like somebody I'm not even. Have you ever responded to a text and then in your head a Theos Ray had been like, oh, I should respond to that text. I'm going to say like, oh, no, I'm out of town. And then you look and you've already responded.
53:51Oh, no, I'm out of town. Yeah. Has that ever happened to you? Yes. I often go back to respond to things that I've ever, and vice versa as well. I often go back to be like, why didn't they ever text me back and realize I had not responded to them? Right, right, right, right. I think I have like automatic brain responses to texts. Yeah. birthday party I'm gonna be out of town it's oh no sad face I'm out of town I hope you have so much fun and I think that's a beautiful response to send but that's like I know that's what my fingers will just start typing yeah it's just gonna happen even when you're in town and you're not sad exactly oh no I'm out of town I have a segment for you Claude what?
54:29I have a segment for you what is it? it's true false I'm gonna read you 15 statements you're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false. Okay, okay. Please use the words true or false. Okay. And then if you get 10 or more correct, I'm going to give you 50 US dollars. Okay. Okay. South America has more nations than Africa. Wait, do it again. South America has more nations than Africa. True. False. The average human body consists of 30 % water. True. False, 60%. West Side Story is based on Romeo and Juliet. False. True. There are five original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
55:07True. False. Four. The ostrich egg is the world's largest bird egg. False. True.
55:17There are always even numbers of rows on corn ears. What? What? There are always even numbers of rows on ears of corn. True. True. Edward Smith was the name of the captain of Titanic. True. True. Syracuse University's mascot is Captain Orange. True. False. Otto the Orange. I went there. The NFL has 30 teams. True. False. 32. Alaska has the most active volcanoes of any U.S. state. That's true. True. My Chemical Romance has released six studio albums. False. False. Four. Justin Bieber was born in London, Ontario, Canada. True. True. The Dewey Decimal System is primarily used in libraries. True. True.
55:59I saw Party Girl. What? Oh, nice. Me too. The world's longest coastline is in China. False. False. It's Canada. Highland Park, Illinois was the headquarters of the Solo Cup Company until 2009. Wait, I'm from there. Did you know that? Oh, that's why. Is that true? No, that can't be. True. True. True. True. True. The Solo Cup? Until 2009 headquarters. Oh, my goodness. How'd they do? Really bad. That's terrible. No, it was a beautiful attempt that was full of spirit. And you really committed to the time, which I thought was beautiful. Thank you. You're quite welcome. Claude, what else do you want to tell people?
56:37Where can they find you? The internet. I have like Instagram and stuff. I have no E at the end of my name, Claude. And sometimes it's like my last name, Claude Mintz. Or sometimes it's Claude.mp3. Is that what I was supposed to say? Yeah, you did great. I hate doing that. You did so great. Thank you so much for doing it. We love you. Thanks for having me, Caleb. We love you, dude. That was a HeadGum podcast. Fall has never looked or tasted this good. Sweetgreen's fall harvest menu is back with seasonal favorites dressed to impress and made to be devoured. Warm roasted sweet potatoes, crisp apples, maple glazed Brussels, and crave worthy flavors in the autumn harvest bowl, maple glazed salmon plate, and roasted bacon Brussels side.
57:24the season's most desirable menu has returned to Sweetgreen, featuring Fall's best dressed. Make your move. Order on the Sweetgreen app. Ugh, I hate Mondays. King's Hawaiian cinnamon swirl bite? Taylor Hanson? Sure, I'll try one. Mmm. Hey, let's get back to work, please. But Taylor Hanson's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly King's Hawaiian cinnamon bites. Taylor Hanson? Nice. Try one. Mmm.
57:55King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites. There's nothing like it. Sweet swelling is all good.
58:24by layer until it finally feels like fall. Find fall your way at Ross.
From the publisher
Welcome! This week’s guest is the talented Claud! Claud and Caleb talk coming out of the closet, the only places to eat in Syracuse, typing speed, rugs, and much more!
Join our Substack for an exclusive post-episode chat with Claud and other bonus content! https://calebsaysthings.substack.com/
Follow Claud! @claud.mp3
Follow the show! @sooootruepod
Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings
Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud
Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/SOTRUE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. #sponsored
Grab an Angry Orchard Cider today. Don’t Get Angry. Get Orchard. Please Drink Responsibly.
If you’re a lawyer who feels called to help protect due process, explore our nation-wide provider map and find an organization near you to get involved: acaciajustice.org/defendkids
About Headgum:
Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com.
» SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1
» FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum
» FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/
» FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum
So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

