Gavin Matts Got Scammed

0:01This is a HeadGum Podcast. No, yeah, but I have a lot of regrets and mistakes that I've made. What are they? What's your biggest regret? And be so honest. I can't.

0:2585-inch TV for football games? Come on. Not bad. That's really good. I need a much better TV than I have. What do you have?

0:38That's the thing. You don't even know. It's been so long that it doesn't even register. You know what I mean? You don't even appreciate it. There's been times where I've gone through and been like, oh, yeah, let me look at new specs. What are new specs doing? What are the new specs of what's going on? But I don't have anything to compare it to. I just know that sometimes I can see a light that's on in the TV, and that makes me so mad. That's not, should not be happening. When we were shopping for TVs for in here, the guy at Best Buy was like, yeah, the difference, the extra$600 on this one is, there's just more lights.

1:09And I guess that makes the picture quality better or something, but I was like, you need to sell me a little bit better. Yeah, I need to understand. Just there's more lights, did not really, it didn't move me. Yeah, I don't get it. Anyway. They could trick me easy. You could get tricked easy? Yeah, I could go in there and they could just say anything. You think you're scammable? Mm-hmm. I'm deeply not. I've been scammed. Are we rolling? I assume so. Just like in person once. Yeah. Yeah. How'd you get scammed? Just like one of the top things that if you Google, is that a scam? They're like, yeah, that's a scam.

1:43Just like a classic money order scam in person just felt bad for someone. Yeah. Went to the ATM with them. I don't know why. You went to the ATM with a stranger. Please walk me through this. You met a stranger on the street. Yeah. And his name was like Henry Glover, which is not real. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Which is not real. I looked that up with the number. He said, my name's Trustworthy Mick. And you said, let's go to the ATM, brother. Yeah. And there's a bit of a story and, you know, everything going on at the time in the world really clarify. Just so much. just so much stuff i was personally feeling guilty about yeah you know what i mean yeah with like things when they happen just in regards to things you know what i mean when someone tells you something and you're like oh but usually you're at home and reading about that yeah but this was somebody in person and you're like this is why i stay home it's so much easier to do nothing yeah about the world you know yeah when i read about atrocities i go oh that's horrible but it's so far away i just won't do anything i guess yeah and you know when you're retelling a story about something you've done.

2:53Kidding, kidding. Yeah. And people are like, ugh. No, wait, what? They're being like, ugh, you did that? Wait, what'd you do? Gave a man money. Oh, I thought you were talking about something to be ashamed of. This is a cool thing you did. You come off good in the money story. No, but I got scammed, though. Yeah, but you come off good because you... Really, when you tell that story, you have to understand you look sweet because you did something nice and someone took advantage of you. Yeah. Unless an insecurity of yours is being dumb, and then I guess it's a little... I never got taken advantage of for, like, bad shit.

3:25What? Like, no one's ever, like, convinced me to do something bad. No one's ever been, like, be a flunky in my crime ring. And you've gone for it. Yeah, okay. I'm like, oh, no. Wait, how much money did you give this guy? Yeah, like, um, like, like,$800. USD? Yeah, so, like, whatever. That's not bad. I know people that have been scammed for more, like, off the phone. Yeah, but they're usually in their, like, 70s. You got scammed out of 800 as a young man Yeah, I mean, this is a couple years ago That's really cool of you I know, I actually heard that thing happens Consistently all the time to a lot Most people Getting scammed?

4:03Yeah Not most people Really? It's a pretty rare I think it's kind of up there, actually Getting scammed, especially from a guy named Henry Glover on the street I only asked him his name once I was handing over the money And then I also took down his number In case there was any issues with his money order Which there was, really If you turned it over, there wasn't really a signature there. Can I say something? And I don't want this. This is not coming from a judgmental space. It doesn't sound like you got scammed. It sounds like you just gave a guy$800. Like, where's the scam? Usually a scam has some form of tomfoolery or trickery, an angle that's like, oh, I'm going to send it back to you.

4:37Or what was the scam? Oh, hey, like, I can't put this in on my, like, card. Like, would you be able to? And you can have it to put in, like, the money order. Yeah. So it was a money order, and I, of course, know what that means. It's like a check, but it's from one of these check cashing places. Okay, yeah, yeah. So already, it's like, yeah, I wasn't really paying attention. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So he took you to a check cashing place, and then you just gave him an$800. Well, I went to an ATM that was just down the block. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got$800 out of your own account.

5:13Yeah, in Park Slope, Brooklyn. In Park Slope, Brooklyn, United States. And then you walked. I paid my fee to be there. That's a real broker fee. Yeah. You paid your community service? Yeah. I'm allowed to be here. Double wide stroller. And then you went to a money order place and did what? No, he had the money order and gave it to me. But this was a faulty. This is not a thing. If I had looked at this for like one second, you know what I mean? Yeah, it was basically written in crayon. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to get a big old new TV. Yeah. yeah yeah so basically i deserve that i think it's sweet to give away 800 to that guy i think that's nice that you did that regardless of you not really meaning to and i think you should do more stuff like that yeah you know you're doing good like get out there give away some money yeah yeah it's fine when you look at it that way yeah yeah it's really nice actually when you think about it like that no yeah because you know nice people are dumb so it's like oh for sure yeah so Yeah, I would never do that.

6:18Be nice. I would never be nice. I'm evil and shrewd. Yeah, but wow, the intelligence on you. Yeah, but that's because I'm smart. Have you seen the discourse about... There's a discourse right now about transplants needing to do community service. Have you seen this? Did that. That was you. We just talked about it. That was you with the money order. No, but I haven't, but that's very funny. Do you feel dumb for coming to America? Yeah.

6:48Yeah, I feel dumb. Yeah, totally. Yeah, but can't really leave right now. Green card processing. Yeah, so you're really locking in, actually. That's so funny. No, fully, and the door is closed behind me. Wait, you can't go back to Canada? And it's to a basement. And I'm shaking. It's you. You're in the glass box and you. Yeah. Can you really not go back to Canada? No, I can't. I have travel authorization. I actually have to go next month to Vancouver and then Toronto for shows. and I am worried about the... Let me back in. You get to the border and they go, hey, man, it's not personal, obviously, but you're not coming back over here.

7:27Fuck. You have a really happy life in Canada, though. No, my life is here. No, I have nothing there, actually. No, I'm not moving back to Canada. No, I don't want to go there. Actually, my life is here in the US. Yeah, you could not pay me to go back. You're a staple in Park Slope. We need you over there. Yeah. Do you like... I'm out there. I'm giving you money. Hey, you're giving me money. Yeah. You're getting... I really do hesitate to even call it a scam. I'm over there. I'm at OS Cafe. You're getting asked for money and then just giving it to someone. Yeah, that happened. And another time, somebody yelled at me, and then I gave them$20, and then he yelled at me again, and then I gave them another$20.

8:07Dude, this happened... Okay, I was at a restaurant in Bushwick, and this guy came up on the patio. and he was like talking to my it was me in a table full of women and he was like he was like excuse me everybody and being like a little aggressive and i was like i was like hey come over here i'll talk to you and so we like stepped away and i was like what's up and he was like i need i need uh i need 24 dollars and i was like i was like okay he was renting the materialist yeah i was like he's gonna get it in hd i said okay i've got let me see what i have i have a 20 i was like here i I have a 20.

8:41What's your name? We chatted for a second. And then he was like, you know, it's my birthday. And I was like, oh, happy birthday. And then he was like, I had given him the 20. And he goes, you really don't have four more dollars?

8:56And I was like, look, I really respect that. But no, I have one. I don't carry cash. I'm not a 1920s businessman. I have one$20 bill and I gave it to you. That is so funny that you had given him the money and he was like, well, you know, you gave me this because it's my birthday. Yeah. Yeah. No, we had a full conversation. I was like, oh, where are you from? Are you from around here? We're chit-chatting. And then he just kind of in a pause in the conversation goes, you really don't have four more dollars? He was disgusted with me. And did you or not? I really didn't. I mean, I guess I could have gone to digital means.

9:26I could have gotten PayPal involved or something. But then I'd end up probably in your shoes. Yeah. Giving away$800. I should have given him$800. Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it. It was hard. I only had$20. but I did have a student once I was when I interned in New York I worked with high school students when I was in college there was like a college prep program and we would like show them around New York City and I had this we were walking through Times Square and it's really hard because I've got like 20 they're mostly international students so varying degrees of some of them English first language some second and some really good and some it's a little tougher but I was really hard because I've got 20 students who speak varying degrees of English and I'm taking them through New York City one of them like straggled off and I saw him from just far enough away start to talk to a guy selling his uh mixtape and i was like hey don't know and then he comes over and he's like i bought a cd and i was like how much did you spend on the cd and he was like he was like well this guy's like an upcoming rapper he's like he's got like a he's got like a record deal coming up and he's like he's like gonna be really big he might be on like billboard next month or so he's like telling me the pitch basically my student and i was like how much did you spend he's like i gave him four of these and they were hundred dollar bills that he didn't understand the currency conversion because he is not from here.

10:40I gave him four of these, and I was like, don't, please, please don't do that. And don't tell anyone that that happened. I got scammed in Beijing, too, so it evened out. It does even out, yeah. Yeah, the tea scam. What happened? What? I went to tea with these girls, and I had to pay. I got scammed in Beijing. It was the tea scam. I know. I was only there for 18 hours. It sounds like you just went on a date. no they like picked me up outside of mao i was saying what's up to the whatever leader over there yeah of course at the city hall or whatever yeah yeah of course the china city hall yeah you know the the big yeah so i was at city hall and then they asked to go to tea because they wanted to practice their english and i was just like all right but i was young too i thought i was you know what i mean yeah i didn't realize it was a scam i was like wow traveling connecting with people which is what that international student thought yeah you know and then the scam on that one was that you just ended up buying two girls tea no but the it was really overpriced oh and i didn't realize also the conversion until later and i was like oh wow i just spent like you know five hundred dollars yeah oh you can't put it a canadian canadian at the time oh so that's what i was working through were with yeah you spent 500 canadian dollars on tea with these girls Yeah, and it was my first time traveling.

12:02And it was like the first day I'd ever traveled. And I was like 21. It was the first day. It was a really bad day. Because I stayed at an airport hotel at the Beijing airport because I was actually going to Japan. But the ticket from Vancouver that was really cheap was like a long layover in Beijing. It's kind of nice because you get to see Beijing then, yeah. Yeah, but then the airport hotel was not really the airport. and it was really hard to get to just because no one would take me because it was like just far enough yeah yeah and then you had the t-scam of course yeah and then the t-scam was a major thing that's happened so what do you think the scam is on that one that the girls maybe get a kickback from the place yeah they're getting like they're getting like yeah they're kind of like a agent manager kind of like 10 kind of vibe yeah like hey if you bring in some guy who's it's his first day ever traveling yeah yeah we'll give you a percentage of whatever yeah i was they how did they find me i was just looking around like this place crazy are you i'm gonna say this with love and i mean it with love you know you're my boy you do look like an easy mark you've got sweet eyes and you've got a vibe that says this guy will take me to tea yeah i think the problem is is my thing is that it feels like i've always like just like taken out an air like air pod or something yeah yeah like but that's my like general like of what's going on yeah um but once you get to know me i'm like really i'm mean and true yeah you're harsh yeah yeah i've said that about you for years now really i've said yeah i've said this guy seems sweet seems like a nice guy uh you get to know him villain fucker he's a fucker he's a fucker he's a scary guy meet the fucker he's a fucker and he's like i've said like he'll scam people i've said that about you he's he's a scammer you heard that yeah chance knows this is how i talk about you before you came in today.

13:54No, yeah, but I have a lot of regrets and mistakes I've made. What are they? What's your biggest regret? And be so honest. I can't.

14:12I actually can't really. Actually, you know what? Forget that. I've actually been reckoning with that for a while and I haven't come to grips with what I've done. But to everybody, I am sorry to all involved. But know that I'm the most affected by it. Yeah. In all situations I've been involved in, everyone just takes solace in the fact that I'm the most affected. Yeah, because you have lives. You've moved on. But me, I'm kind of stuck in that. Yeah. You kind of look back like, what was that? Yeah. But me, I'm still there, you know? Yeah. I'm trying to think of my regrets. So apologize to me. I will.

14:48And I'll tell other people too as well. thank you so much yeah that'd be such a weight i start going i start going around town being like do you know gavin mats could you shoot him an apology i've never been in a room with this many men before i don't think it's straight up we've got the everyone in the room right now is a man i assume i i fellas i like that kind of shit

15:13i like shit like that i fucking actually love shit like that yeah you're you're a boy Yeah. I'm a boy. I'm a boy. I'm a boy's boy, but I have sisters. You know what I'm saying? A bad guy trying to seem good. Seriously, I've said, do you have sisters? Do you have sisters for real? I know you do. Yeah, three. The two sluttiest things that a straight man can do is have a sister that he loves and post pictures with a puppy. When straight men post pictures with puppies, it's like you're fucking up to something. Guilty.

15:47Lock me up. I'd be doing photos of my dog in a bag. I know. That's what I'm saying. And that's so, that is slutty. And I love my younger sisters. That's really, yeah. It's good. But it's like there is something about it to me that really rings as like, that guy's a little untrustworthy. You know? Like if you hated your sister, I'd be like, now that's a guy. But younger sisters. Older sister, I'm not as, you know what I mean? What? I'm not Well I love She just visited me So that was nice And I knew this I'm just surprised So like Yeah Yeah Hell yeah She's cute as hell The niece? Yeah What's her deal?

16:31She's just like Starting to talk Bangs You know what I mean? Three year old with bangs Yeah Awesome Really cool when they do that Yelling a lot more Sweating What? Yeah Is she okay? I caught FaceTiming her the other day She was just like yelling help and like pretending to be hurt. It was awesome. I was like, that is number one top favorite bit so far. You? That I've seen over FaceTime. How do you do be funny over that? You saying, yeah, my niece is so cute. She has bangs. She's always sweating and yelling for help. Like what? You know what I mean? Real kid shit. That is cool. I do wish, I wish I had an opportunity to be distressed more often.

17:14Yeah. In like a funny way, you know? I wish I had more flustered. What I mean by that is I wish I was carrying 17 pizzas on one roller skate. I don't have any slapstick moments. And when's the last time you were frazzled? I don't get frazzled. I'm like this. I'm real even. Well, I get upset. That's not the same as frazzled. No. I get pissed off. You need to be on your Pink Panther. Steve Martin, I'm talking. What do you think we're going to do about men and boys? What's going on with them?

17:49what is yeah what are we gonna do like well look you know i feel like i'm in like a good place emotionally with my friends pretty vulnerable guy but then at the same time we are like playing like a we all got a video game together that we're playing and it's like a right wing uh like police game what's the game it's called like ready or not and it's like you have to stop like terrorists and stuff what yeah so it's like yeah we're like tell each other that we love each other but then it's also like we're 30 years old and we're um uh trying to stop pedophiles in a bad in a video game yeah you're you're playing police and we're like slowly being like we're creating a new like kind of red pill where it's like it's like a combination of like red and blue or it's like a purple pill.

18:42You know what I mean? And that's kind of how we're fighting back is like we're blending the two sides. Yeah. I asked you kind of jokingly what we should do about men and boys and you told me that you and your boys are creating a new red pill. So yeah, it's kind of like it's like Rothko. It's like a new color. It's like, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's a square, but it's beautiful because it's detailed. So to answer your question, I don't know. I don't know. Wrong person to ask. I gathered that really quickly. I thought you might be the right person to ask, but now it turns out you're playing the police in your free time.

19:15Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, I went from ACAB to like, you got my six. Yeah, you got my six. Yeah. Yeah. You're doing this. I only, I play, I play one video game. You probably don't even want to know what it is. Yeah. You already knew that. See, not a football. Canada. Well, that's the Canada. We have it. Yeah, but come on. It's even bigger there. What? The field. Okay. The field is huge. Yeah, I don't... What's a Canadian football team? BC Lions. I've never heard of that in my life. G. Roy Simon. What? Watch the highlights. Is it 8-man or 11-man? I don't know, but the field is so big, it looks like I could do it.

20:07You think... Because they're so much – they look tinier. Yeah. Because the field is bigger. Yeah. You know, it's like 20 yards every other side. What? Yeah, it's like – and the field goal thing is like close to the – you know what I mean? So people can run into it. Yeah. Wait, what? Yeah, because it's at the front of the end zone. The field goal is at the front of the end zone? Yeah, so you could be like – you could like YouTube like Canadian football running into the field post, like the field goal post. Yeah. And, like, you know, a wide receiver cutting across the middle, hitting the post. Really?

20:40Getting blown up. That's crazy. Yeah. Do you guys not feel like that's a liability? I think they should add more stuff to the field. Yeah. Trapdoors. Actually, this would be sick. Ball pits. Ball pits. A spring. Shoot them way high up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, like, they should have jetpacks. Yeah. The guys should wear jetpacks. And then only, like, once, maybe, once every couple plays, you can use your jetpack, but not all the time. Yeah. obviously i like that you love football it's like a nice thing about you you think so yeah i think it's like you know it's like it's like another extra layer it's like if you were like good at math yeah yeah okay yeah you know like if you're like really good at math i think i'm pretty good at math give me a problem i see i don't know enough you know you don't know enough about math you don't know enough about math to give me an equation yeah i seriously kind of tuned out at long division.

21:34Do you know your time stables? Like 12 times 12? Yeah, that. Yeah. What's 12 times 12? No, it's 144. Nice. See, don't play with me. You know what 12 times 12 is. I needed a second. Yeah, for sure. It's been a minute. You know what I mean? For sure. I haven't stretched in a while. Kind of tight. I got really serious about time stables when they dropped those. When you got to the point in school where it was like, okay, we're doing speed, race time stables. I got real into that. Oh, my problem was I was in a 3-4 split. What? So when they dropped that, I was like kind of, I was too young really to, you know what I mean?

22:10What's a 3-4 split? Like half the class is grade three, half the class is grade four. What? So I was grade three. Is this a thing we do in the US? No, that's probably Canada. Why is the class half and half? Does that make sense? You know, you get some full classes, but then you get some, you know? That's why I like older women. No, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, say that. say that that's no that's probably no why wait because i need to be like stable emotionally i'm not gonna actually be able to get past it the the half the class is third grade half is fourth grade for what reason probably due to like uh amount of kids like it would like equal that of like you know there's like two and a half full classes of like you know uh 30 kids in one 30 kids in one and then there's only 15 other kids but then there's also 15 left over so it is math yeah this is really good yeah yeah yeah i'm really confused by that but i love it actually yeah because yeah and i've i've really been thinking about class sizes a lot lately because i saw weapons and in mrs gandy's class you know what i mean there's only 18 kids i go this is america like this looks great like what is this neighbor yeah what is this maybrook school district is really great.

23:24Yeah. Unless, of course, you know. Until 2.17 a.m. or whatever. Yeah. Every kid. They ran out of the class. Did that actually happen? In real life? The weapons thing. Did that actually happen? No. Nice. No. Wouldn't that be cool? That'd be much better than what happens for real. What do you mean?

23:48What do you mean by that?

23:53oh did you guys understand that and i didn't he was talking about like the fact that we have mass shootings in the united states yeah i didn't understand you're not supposed to say it out loud mass shootings yeah it's a secret thing that happens every day you're not supposed to talk about it don't bring that up it's our thing that happens every day that we keep yeah you're like what's the list of things going on right now and then for some reason it's like oh we're not going to talk about the other mass shooting that happened today yeah we have a lot of those huh yeah like no every day i've been thinking about getting a gun yeah i can't i can't you can't have a gun because you're in no because if i hear the the the the default iphone alarm okay this is what we're talking about default iphone alarm makes me yeah it triggers something in me that i can't even really describe to you it makes me so angry and ill yeah And people just have it.

24:43And sometimes you hear it in public and you just lose it. Yeah. Wait, in public you're hearing it. I've heard it. Like I've heard it like when I've like been on a plane, I've heard it like as somebody's like reminder alarm. You know what I mean? It's just like so depressing. Actually. It's like, Oh, your alarm you're picking is default. Also radar. It's like, it sounds like a bomb shelter, like a fallout. Like, it really sounds like something like there's a bomb dropping as we speak. You need to get underground. Yeah. Chris Evans character in materialists. materialist chris evans is in material oh never mind sorry i was yeah yeah and it was like i think it was like and his character is like poor so it was like i was like oh there she's like it means like that's like the poor alarm that's like the alarm for poor people is like the default iphone alarm i didn't see materialist there's an alarm for poor people no he's poor and the whole thing is rich poor class intersectionality of feminism that movie it sounds good yeah i bought it last night you watched it last night yeah i uh it was$19.99 to rent or$25 to buy so i own it you said you own you own materialists digitally yeah i chance does research on our guests for the show and i was reading the stuff about you before the show today and one of the things it's not on there you won't find it i already threw it away i didn't want you to see it but one of the things that it said was that um and i don't know where chance found this but i guess one time you bombed so hard at stand-up that the next day you watch requiem requiem for a dream oh yeah how was that a weird deep pull that's a really weird deep pull isn't it he pulls the strangest stuff it's that ice cream truck that would be so sick right now actually i'm gonna need the cherry dip in a waffle cone is that your order yeah cherry dip waffle cone the cherry dip is so like waxy and nice that when you break through that layer and you finally get to the ice cream i don't i can't do cherry like that i can do cherry ice cream i can't do like cherry dip like the cherry i don't like i don't like cherry in that way but cherry ice cream with actual no you do no i promise you i don't no you do kevin please because someone else told me this too like they're like i don't like that and it's like you don't know yeah you know what i mean i had not thought about that you know what i mean like yeah when's the last time tried when's the last time try cut word out get to point when's the last time try cherry ice cream topping honestly you that's a really good point you back me into a corner because i would say it's got to be at least years yeah last time try was years taste bud change one more time taste but change taste might change since last time try what do you think you would be if you weren't a comedian that just came to my mind the Rizzler 2 you think you would be the Rizzler 2 part of his whole thing is that he's extremely young I would be like a teacher oh I was kind of hoping for something more crazy I've never really thought about it but I think that's the only job I could do because it's pretty simple.

27:56What kind of teacher would you be? Like something inconsequential like social studies. Something inconsequential? You're going to get so... The social studies teacher community is going to come for you so hard for that. Social studies teachers are on this show. Yeah, but like a socials teacher for like fifth grade or something. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. What's anybody really retaining from that? States. you guys probably didn't have to do this. I know the states. You don't know provinces. I do. Ontario, Quebec. Of course, there's Alberta. Of course. Of course. Of course, there's Alberta.

28:37Of course. And look, they'd like to not be there. Ontario. Ontario. They got mad at me one time for the way I pronounced this. It's Ontario. Yeah. So the second way you said that is probably what they're - That's what I did that got them mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I know that it's Ontario. Yeah, you know when you pronounce a place wrong and then people act like you're doing it to them on purpose? Yeah. Like Louisville. Louisville. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Well, there were freaks about that, though. Yeah, and it's the most complicated way to say it. There were freaks about that because it shouldn't be Louisville.

29:06It should be Louisville because it was named after a fucking King Louis. Right. This is how the Midwest and South in this country is, though. There's a town in Missouri called Versailles. Versailles. They've just decided to pronounce it for sales And how's the How's the Real estate In Missouri And for sales