In short
The episode is a chaotic conversation centered on Hayden Johnson’s life and comedy, with side tangents on polyamory, partying/drugs, sexuality, politics, and trans identity. Hayden jokes about “icon status” for TV actors (discussing Lisa Kudrow/Phoebe and comparisons to other performers), then shifts to his own “revolution” persona: he describes arriving with limousine/Coke/cash and claims cocaine “levels him out” like “warm milk.” He discusses going out 1–2 times a month, enjoying warehouse/dark-room sex parties, and being “strictly gay” despite wanting to be attracted to women; he contrasts dating girls after transitioning and says women are attentive (“does that hurt?”). He explains his poly setup: two boyfriends (one primary, one cohabiting) plus additional partners, rejecting the word “thruple.” He also critiques progressive politics’ “performing cool,” praises Zoran (handshakes/charisma), and debates Ohio gubernatorial polling. Notable examples include “Crime Town/Crime Island” jokes, Madden gameplay with muted strangers and sad-folk Spotify, and a story about Otis Redding’s plane crash inspiring a tribute song.
Guests
Hayden Johnson (trans comedian, touring/working on a first stand-up hour) and a co-host/interviewer (name not provided in transcript).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCultural Icons and Recognition
1:31 to 2:18
Discussion on the evolution of cultural icons in entertainment and their recognition.
“Carly Rae Jepsen played soccer in college.”
The Shift from Characters to Individuals
2:18 to 4:34
Hosts talk about the transition of actors from being known for roles to their personal identities.
“you're a legend, you're an icon, you're mother.”
The Party Scene and Personal Experiences
4:34 to 6:10
Conversations about the party lifestyle, experiences, and the dynamics of social interactions.
“Yeah, I mean, yeah, but like good shows.”
Relationships in a Polyamorous Context
6:10 to 7:30
Exploring the complexities and dynamics of polyamorous relationships.
The Concept of Throuples
7:30 to 10:00
Discussion on the term 'throuple' and the nature of non-monogamous relationships.
“I can't ever tell if I'm upset when a gay guy doesn't want to hook up with me or not.”
Living Arrangements and Bed Sizes
10:00 to 12:30
Hosts discuss living arrangements in polyamorous setups and unique bed sizes.
“I know you're, how many relationships are you in at the moment?”
Dreams of a Hedonistic Lifestyle
12:30 to 14:00
Exploration of desires for a hedonistic lifestyle and the challenges faced.
“But Oh, it's called like an Atlantic King or something like that.”
Exploring Personal Relationships and Travel
14:00 to 17:19
The hosts discuss their perspectives on relationships, travel, and personal desires.
“if I put mirrors on the ceiling, those are going to fall.”
Reflections on Language Learning
17:20 to 18:42
A conversation about language learning experiences and educational disappointments.
“Well, I signed up when I was going into high school.”
Perspectives on Ohio Politics
18:43 to 20:48
Discussion on political dynamics in Ohio and the Republican Party's current state.
“It's not the worst, but it's also not the best.”
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Cultural Commentary on Suicide Notes
20:49 to 22:35
The hosts humorously discuss the nature of suicide notes and their implications.
“This is what I said the last, when Trump got elected this most recent time, is I was like, yes, I am sick about it, of course.”
The Dangers of Helicopter Travel
22:36 to 23:42
Discussion about the risks associated with helicopter travel and celebrity incidents.
“That way, if it ever happens, I want you guys to know I'm not playing games with my suicide note.”
Domino's Pizza Promotion
23:43 to 26:04
The hosts promote Domino's Pizza and share their thoughts on its offerings.
“but maybe like William Bell or something.”
Domino's Pizza Promotion
27:32 to 28:27
The hosts promote Domino's Pizza and share their thoughts on its offerings.
The Evolution of Comedy Preferences
28:27 to 29:12
A discussion on how comedy preferences evolve with age and experiences.
Smoking Culture and Personal Experiences
29:14 to 30:45
Reflecting on the culture of smoking and its social implications.
“I would have thought sooner just because you seem good at it.”
The Highs and Lows of Gaming
30:46 to 32:31
Exploring gaming experiences and humorous interactions while playing.
“I have friends who work at gas stations and jobs where I'm like, yeah, sure, get fucking blitzed for that.”
Imagining Crime Town
32:33 to 37:54
A humorous take on creating a community for undesirable behaviors.
“I play one video game only on Xbox, and it's unfortunately Madden.”
Politics and Authenticity
37:55 to 42:00
Discussing the importance of authenticity in political personas.
“He's a fucking brain-dead belligerent moron and Karen Bass is useless.”
Exploring Gender and Identity in Comedy
42:00 to 45:31
Gain insights into the evolving perspectives on gender identity and how comedians navigate these discussions.
“and more me being like, fuck you, fuck you fuck you and I really like that You have some of my favorite jokes about gender You have, there are two jokes of yours in particular that I think about a lot.”
The Role of Community in Comedy
48:01 to 56:00
Discuss the importance of support and mentorship within the comedy community and the experiences of comedians.
“Apple Pay is the simple, secure, and fast way to pay.”
The LA Lifestyle Debate
56:00 to 56:39
Discussion on the appeal and pitfalls of living in LA versus other cities.
The Quest for Community
56:40 to 57:58
Exploring the desire for community and shared living experiences.
“is like, it's like staying in Atlantis because you like being above water.”
Politics and Artistic Life in Missouri
57:59 to 59:47
A conversation about the challenges of living in Missouri as an artist.
“Whenever I'm here, somebody invites me out every single night.”
Revolutionary Thoughts and Patriotism
59:48 to 1:01:08
Debating the complexities of love for country amidst political struggles.
“Unfortunately, it's not looking like fascism's gonna end with us all kind of praying.”
Embracing Furry Culture
1:01:09 to 1:06:39
A humorous yet thoughtful defense of the furry community and its role in society.
“It's like hard to care about like a thing, like a country because like what is a country?”
Cooking and Connections
1:06:40 to 1:10:03
Light-hearted discussion about cooking and personal relationships.
“for what they're spending on these costumes.”
Spicy Curry and Friendships
1:10:03 to 1:10:55
The hosts discuss plans for meeting and making curry while hanging out.
“If you made spicy curry for me, I would go crazy.”
True or False Game
1:10:55 to 1:13:47
Hayden participates in a game where he answers true or false to various statements.
“And baby, if you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 US dollars.”
Carly Rae Jepsen Discussion
1:13:47 to 1:14:41
The conversation shifts to Carly Rae Jepsen and her college sports involvement.
“You could have asked me anything about her and it would have been pretty 50-50 if I'd get it.”
Supporting Hayden Johnson
1:14:41 to 1:15:16
Hayden shares how fans can find and support him on social media and during his tour.
Upcoming Series and Snap Judgment
1:15:46 to 1:16:42
The hosts transition to discussing upcoming shows and a new series from Snap Judgment.
“May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.”
Transcript
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1:54Lisa Kudrow is in the same camp. There's a big camp of these people. I feel, but Laurie Metcalf is also one of them where it's like, there's many years of just playing like a pretty funny character on TV. And there's no real, like, at least to my knowledge, there's no real like lauding or accomplishments or like, there's no mother allegations. There's no, there's no like icon status. And then seemingly kind of overnight, but also over the span of 30 years, it's like, you're a legend, you're an icon, you're mother. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I really, I, I'm not interested in friends at all.
2:27Yeah. but Comeback is maybe the greatest TV show that's ever existed. Lisa Kudrow has been amazing for so long, and now I feel like she's getting this icon status. I'm like, maybe it's always been there, but I just feel like, I don't know, I'm noticing things. Were you a Friends person? I was not a Friends person. Okay, I think that's, because I think people did think she was an icon, but I just don't. I never watched that. See, I thought that they thought that she was more of a circus clown. She did recently say that they were very mean to her. But I think people liked her. Like the audience.
3:02Yeah, that's what I'm saying is I think there's this thing of like, it goes beyond being liked into like, I mean, I don't want to say being respected. But it's like, Laurie Metcalf on Roseanne was like very popular. She was like a high paid, like seriously, like very, I think audiences loved her. But I don't know that the industry was going, you're a legend, we bow down to you. And they should have been the whole time because she has been amazing. but now she's like yeah she's one of those girls yeah it probably goes from like you're a character to like you're you yeah like you're known for your character you're known for who is Lisa Kudrow Phoebe Phoebe you're Phoebe yeah and now it's like that's Lisa Kudrow and now you're Lisa you go from Jackie to Lori well this is what Taylor Ortega and I were just referring to as stepping from your big red clown shoes into your Louboutins wow and I love Taylor that's beautiful I love Well, she just stepped into her Louboutins with big mistakes.
3:56Yeah, she's like famous. That's like maybe the first friend I've had that I've won. Well, there's just, I don't know. That feels like a really huge step from, I met Taylor and she was being so mean to men at open mics at like 1130 at night. Yeah. That was kind of how I knew Taylor. Yeah. And now, biggest star on Netflix. That's kind of crazy. That's really crazy. Right? But you're very famous, too. But I didn't know you. No, it's just stunned. I didn't know you in your humble era. Yeah, you did. No, I didn't. In L.A.? Barely. Oh, Hayden, I was humble in L.A. You were seeing me at shows in L.A.?
4:44Yeah, I mean, yeah, but like good shows. You saw me at my lowest. I was doing backyard shows in L.A. How? By the way, something I miss and loved. I was about to say. Not something that was low at all. I was about to say. I guess I thought that was a really treasured experience. I guess I thought that maybe that was the point. I thought you were a part of beautiful and beloved community, I guess. Yeah. No, I completely loved it. I thought hanging out with your friends in the backyard was kind of all we could ever hope for. It was never about that for me. It was always about the limousines and the Coke and the cash.
5:15Yeah. And that's kind of what you're doing now. That's what I'm doing now. I took a limousine here. I did Coke. I was counting cash. I fired three people on the way here. They didn't even work for me. Yeah. I said, driver, stop. Roll down the window. I said, you're fired. Can I say, right before we walked over here, I've never seen someone do that much cocaine. Yeah. That was really crazy. Well, it just levels me out. Yeah. It's how I'm able to just be like this. Yeah, you were really hyper, and then you did all that cocaine, and you calmed right down. Yeah, it brings me down. It's like warm milk for me.
5:42Wow. Yeah, cocaine. It's because I've done so much of it. I'm such a party boy. Yeah, it's like a cigarette before bed or whatever. Exactly. Are you partying? Are you doing the out till 5am thing? Not out till 5am But I definitely am I mean I'm trying to I feel like there are people who take it really seriously There are people who are Like warehouse parties And stuff I love those but they take like a lot of I don't know It's like a constant Going out, being in that scene Being at every party Because there's always a party There's a party every night of the week I try to do it like once or twice a month That's really good Yeah But that does feel It's like an intense form of going out I think Where it's like you're getting naked Sorry Okay stay on the podcast No I love that Okay You're getting naked at parties Well yeah In dark rooms and stuff Oh that's beautiful I don't go in there They're really fun I highly recommend I think they're like friendlier than I guess they're friendlier than you would expect I think gay guys are so scary completely right gay guys are so scary you guys get it gay guys are completely, oh they know the big villain in all of their lives is one gay guy sitting right here don't laugh so hard
7:18but it's like it's like i expect to go in there and they're like get this bitch out of here you know like because it's like i'm a little different right sure but you're a girl yeah right but they're having fun that i'm having fun it's great it's so beautiful i'm really happy to hear that it's because if i found out that they were being mean to you in their head and i i shudder to think of what i would do it it was a fear i was like that's that would really suck to like to like stripped down for strangers and for them to be like, hey, not here, not here. Get out of here. Sexual freedom, but not for a girl.
7:55Not for you, baby girl. You got to go. That's crazy. I would have gotten it, though. I would completely hate that. I can't ever tell if I'm upset when a gay guy doesn't want to hook up with me or not. Because on the one hand, you're a gay guy. So, yeah. So, yeah, you like guys. On the other hand, I'm like, grow up, you know? I think it could be fun. I don't know. Yeah. I think, I think, no, I'm sorry. I don't want to say that. I don't want to say I think everyone should be more bisexual. I think everyone could be more bisexual. Why not? I think, I mean, I really think so. I don't want to like knock people for their sexualities, but I really think it would be nice.
8:39If everyone was a little more, a little more pan, a little more bi. Yeah. I mean, do you ever see these stories and it's like, oh, this femme twink and this butch lesbian thought each other was the opposite gender and they almost hooked up. Yeah. I'm like, they should have hooked up. They totally should have hooked up. They totally should have hooked up. Completely. They saw each other from across the bar. They fell in love and then they said no because of some rule. I think that's crazy. I would give anything to be attracted to women. I mean that. It would mean the world to me to be more bisexual.
9:13I suffer from being a strictly gay guy It's a complete nightmare, it's a humiliation It's an embarrassment, it's almost conservative At this point I see that, yeah I don't give anything to be into women Do you know how many women in my life I would be so happy with If I could just get that part figured out? Yeah, I mean they're really great They're the best I was gay boy for a long time And when I transitioned I started dating girls Sometimes And they're really nice Y 'all are great, I'm loving what you're doing over there They're really lovely They're like, hey how are you? You know, they're checking in.
9:47They're being like, does that hurt? Like, that's not something that I ever got from a gay man. Yeah. You know, they remember my name. It's really nice. It's really crazy how much better it probably is over there. I mean, yeah, I think it would be great. I wish that that was happening for me. I'm very happy for you. I know you're, how many relationships are you in at the moment? Committed? Yeah. Two. What about uncommitted? but hell yeah what's the situation tell me about the setup well so i have my two boyfriends um i live with one of them um he's like my primary and then um we have another boyfriend um who's really lovely too um and we see him together uh the two of us only together um no separately and together like we're we're all kind of like a little thruple sort of thing but i hate that word It's kind of a nasty word.
10:41That makes sense. It really is kind of embarrassing to say that. It feels heterosexual to me. I don't know. Thruple is like, I don't know, but there's not a better word to describe it. It feels binding. Yeah, it feels like a legal kind of designation. Yeah, and that's kind of the whole point of polyamory is to not do that. Yeah. But so then, and then there are like, you know, some sweeties that I see and I really enjoy. I feel like I've got like somebody for everything. You know what I mean? I would fucking hope so. I think that's also the point of polyamory for me. It's like, oh, I can like, you know, like, what?
11:18It's like, I don't want to wait. I guess I just like take out menus. No, come on. I'm like, oh, what would be really good tonight? That's beautiful. Yeah. I have a lot of criticism of the polyamory community. Yeah, that was one of the last things that you said to me. What did I say? Before you left LA. Which is, I guess, why I thought you weren't in your humble era. Because you were like, oh, I was talking to somebody and I was talking about my partners. And then you were like, I have to forget that you're polyamorous in order to respect you. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, that's awesome. I love that.
12:00It's not true. I say these things. Yeah. Thank you. I do wonder about your guys' lifestyle. It's really fun. We have a big bed. How big? biggest you can get? California King. California King. There's a bigger one, you know. Really? Yeah. And I know this because I know a gay guy thruple in Manhattan that special ordered this bed so they could all live together in the bed. Wow. And I won't say any more about that for protection of their privacy, but I have more to say off camera about the bed. I was in it once. It was fabulous. Platonically. Sorry. I know. I would sleep with those guys. Hey, guys, hit me up.
12:37But Oh, it's called like an Atlantic King or something like that. There's a Wyoming King, an Alaskan King, and a Texas King. Alaskan King. Alaskan King is humongous. Yeah, I've heard about like, I've had a couple gay guys who have money be like, oh, like we're thinking about like getting a custom bed for, because you can also just get a custom bed for a room and just get like a room that's basically a bed. You can get circular. You can get heart-shaped. That sounds so fun. I think that's how I would like to start. I move so responsibly and boring with my money. I think I would really like to start moving crazy, annoying gay guy style.
13:18I think you should. Have you ever? Okay, this is. Did you watch Elton John? Do you watch Rocket Man? I'm afraid to say I have not. Okay. Well, Rocket Man is a fine movie. But there's so many scenes in it. of the guy who plays Elton John, I can't remember his name, Taron Egerton, but they're just doing hedonistic gay sex in this mansion, and there's mirrors on the ceiling and big beds and pillows everywhere, and I'm like, yeah, that's kind of what the point of trying to be close to famous is for me, is to get closer to that, to put mirrors on the ceiling. Because right now, if I put mirrors on the ceiling, those are going to fall.
14:03can't afford to have them installed properly to get to a place where I can afford to install them properly that would be really cool that's the goal that's the dream that's what this is all about I think so I think that's completely beautiful yeah fuck art it's all about mirrors on the ceiling fuck art I've been saying for me the mirror situation has never been like I'm not interested in seeing like multiple angles of the fucking I'm really content to just be looking at the person I'm fucking. I'm also content to just be fucking one person. I'm pretty boring in that way. It is a lot to fuck multiple people.
14:39Look, I've been involved. It was fine. I almost had a threesome in Lisbon a couple weeks ago. Wow. And, you know, it came time to make a decision, and I said, that just sounds like so much work. Was it going to be like a German threesome? How do you mean? Wait, sorry. What language do they speak in Lisbon? Where's Lisbon? Oh, it's in Portugal. Cut that, cut that, cut that. We'll cut that, we'll cut that. We'll cut that, we'll cut that. We'll cut that. No, no, come on, it's fine. People know that I'm done. And I have so much respect for you, by the way, legitimately, that I, in my head, was like, oh, Hayden knows about something I don't know called a German threesome.
15:22Which is like, I don't know, where one stands in the corner and takes notes on your performance or something. Yeah, one stands in the corner and makes... Be careful. No, I'm fine. Oh, that was nice. That was nice. That was very respectful of the German culture. I'm looking around the room to kind of figure out... Who's German? Who's German? And maybe what the culture is. Every room I'm in, I try to find the exits and who's German. Yeah. I want to know what I'm up against. Just in case. Just in fucking case. In my defense, I've never... I've only traveled out of the country once in my life. I'm not well traveled or worldly at all Where to and do you have any desire to travel more outside the country?
16:00I would love to travel more outside the country I went to Montreal for JFL Of course But that's the only time And it's only been in that one little city And I was only surrounded by every comedian Everyone I've ever met Everyone I've ever met So it wasn't really Basically family vacation to Canada Yeah family vacation to Canada But with a bunch of people I would also choose not to bring I guess it's family vacation but yeah I would love to I would love to travel more I just I don't know because I don't know where Lisbon is and that feels like a problem. That makes complete sense to me and also Montreal I would say of Canada it's one of the more international I would say it's the most international Canadian city to go to I like that one.
16:39I've not been to Montreal actually It is really really beautiful and they were all like I don't know it was cool to meet people who spoke French. Do you speak any other languages? No. Me neither and I really, really, really want to, just not enough to work very hard at it. Same with music. That's how I feel about both of those. I mean, I took Latin in high school. Did you take a language? I took Spanish, but it was like I went to a school district that treated it like a joke. They were like, we're gonna eat tacos and give each other different names. It was fucking stupid, and I'm furious because had they taken it seriously, I was such a good student, I'd probably be really good at Spanish now.
17:18But they didn't give a fuck and so I didn't give a fuck and that's on me too. Well, I signed up when I was going into high school. They were like we're going to have Mandarin and that's what I signed up for. I signed up to take Mandarin and then they dropped Mandarin and put everyone who signed up for that in Latin and so I just learned I went from learning the language that might be the most useful. Exactly. To least I'll never use it and I don't remember it. Yeah, it's completely dead. It's pointless. And everyone was like, oh, you can use that to become a doctor. I wasn't going to become a doctor Hey, that's not happening for me That wasn't going to be me You grew up in Ohio?
17:54How was it? Did you love it? You know No, but I have a lot of love for Ohio I think it's a beautiful place And there's lots of beautiful parts of it It just, I wish I had Agency there I think that was the thing I don't know why, but for a second I thought you were saying I wish I had agents Yeah, my biggest problem with Ohio is I guess that I couldn't get agents when I was a child. Didn't have representation there? That was really upsetting? It was like, you had to drive so far to find the nearest person who did headshots.
18:30Like, I feel like had I been able to be in a part of Ohio that was really beautiful and that I really liked and have my own friends and stuff, like, that would have been great. But Ohio was just... But that wasn't the case. That wasn't the case. And it's like, I don't know. It's kind of scary. A little bit. It's like kind of mid. It's not the worst, but it's also not the best. They're having a gubernatorial election right now, are they not? I think Vivek is right. Yeah, Vivek. That awful, awful piece of shit. I think he's going to lose, isn't he? I don't know. Chance, pull up Ohio gubernatorial.
19:04I think it was looking like it was going to go for him for a second. Well, he just won the Republican primary. Yeah. Right. That was always going to happen. What are the polls against his competitor? Got it right here. So these are the primary results. Amy Acton is the Dem frontrunner. Was this election like last night? It was recently, it looks like. They don't have, let's. Search Vivek Acton head-to-head polls. I want to know for me. We might cut this.
19:39I want to see what's going on in Ohio. Yeah. I care about it. I definitely care about it. Plus one in Ohio is crazy. You're not going to be able to do more, Chance. You don't have a New York Times subscription. Well, they're fake news. I think that's good. And by the way, that's a good thing. That is good. That is completely good. Okay, it's kind of neck and neck here. Wow, this is good. That'd be really cool. I mean, I think like, I do think Ohio Republicans are like a little disillusioned with, Just judging from, like, my family and, like, the people that I know there, I think they're not MAGA, certainly.
20:19They were never MAGA. Right. They were always kind of like, well, we just sort of care about, like, Christianity and that kind of thing. They were more like John Kasich types, right? They were very John Kasich. Yeah, it was like polite Midwesterners that were like, oh, we can't go in for all that spending. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, okay. I was the kind of Republicans, and I'm like, you know what? Like, I miss y 'all. Yeah. Yeah, and then it got like really, it's gotten so crazy to the point that I think they are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like they are getting a little bit freaked out.
20:47100%. People are having buyer's remorse on the whole deal. I think so. This is what I said the last, when Trump got elected this most recent time, is I was like, yes, I am sick about it, of course. And I don't, I don't, there's no part of me that feels like this isn't going to be very, very bad for a lot of people. and also I do think if there is any silver lining I think this is going to be the death of that whole movement because he is going to not deliver on anything and way overplay his hand and completely blow all the goodwill that he had with a certain section of people and that's exactly what he's done.
21:21Yeah, and he's even getting rid of his own base by not following the conspiracy theories. Right. They were all in on the Epstein stuff, on the vaccine stuff. It just feels like they're not really Tapping into any of that I don't know I mean what happened with the Epstein stuff They did that fucking photo shoot with the influencers and the binders And then they just did nothing And they know who's in there And they're doing nothing Yeah did you see his note The Jeffrey Epstein's note or whatever That they just published They published his suicide note But it just kind of said like what a wild ride And it was like Jesus Christ Well had some crazy days some crazy nights.
22:03Better be on my way now. I think it ends up being like, this was not worth it or whatever. And I'm like, that's what you leave with? He's like, I guess if I had to say one thing, it's that Donald Trump had nothing to do with my crimes. Well, it was like, if you're going to write a suicide note, I think it's like, leave on a big swing. Yeah. You know? Oh, take some people down. Say something. If I ever kill myself, you better believe my suicide note will be long and impressive. And mine will be filled with lies, by the way. Sure, I don't give a fuck. All the people who've wronged me. That is really funny, but I do want to say on the record, mine will be only the truth.
22:39That way, if it ever happens, I want you guys to know I'm not playing games with my suicide note. I will tell the complete truth about everybody. And everything. I want you guys to know that. I do not plan on killing myself. I think I'm going to die in a crazy freak accident. Like many, many years from now. Yeah, I see that for myself. Do you? Yeah. I don't think it will be natural causes. I tell you what it won't be for me, and that's a helicopter crash. I'm not getting in one. They scare the fuck out of me, and I don't want to go up there. I think that's a real big thing for me right now is, like, how in L.A.
23:12can we get rid of the helicopters? Yeah. Because it's crazy. And they're not doing anything. They just send the police helicopters up there to just fly around and fucking freak people out. It sucks. Yeah, that is what they're doing. They're menacing on purpose. It's so fucked up. And then also they're crashing. crashing every other day. It feels like we lose another beloved celebrity every other day because they were in a helicopter. Helicopter, small plane crash. You know what I was reading the other night? There was this musician. God, I can't remember his name, but maybe like William Bell or something.
23:45But I was listening to this song that came out. It was like a 70s soul song. And I was like, who is this guy? This is great. I wonder what kind of career he had. It was stoned. So I started going down a fucking research rabbit hole. and it turns out he was like best friends with Otis Redding and Otis Redding died in a plane crash and he was actually meant to be on the flight that Otis Redding died on but his show, he was supposed to perform in maybe Chicago and they had really bad weather so his show was cancelled so he didn't take the flight and then he lived and then one of his biggest hits was actually writing a tribute song about Otis after he died and I was like what the fuck?
24:21Could you imagine? You're supposed to be on a plane with your friend and then it crashes and he dies and then you write a beautiful tribute song about him and it's your best work. Crazy. Yeah, all Seth MacFarlane did was like, make more Family Guy. And you're saying that like that's not something, but Family Guy, I will go to the fucking grave for.
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28:27i love i fucking love family guy so much it uh it meant a lot to me when i was 13 yeah and you gave it up in adulthood yeah i mean i gave it up pretty quick i think like into like later in to high school i was like this is gonna make this is not gonna make me a better person but i liked american dad for a while yeah that seems to be the dichotomy my journey with all of that was that in high school like when everyone was watching things like family guy i was like you guys are fucking morons i'm not interested yeah and that's because they were all smoking weed and i wasn't like it was a whole thing yeah and then i avoided it avoided it and then basically in like my mid-20s i was like actually family guy fucking rocks and then i started smoking weed and then it really was like it was all over.
29:13I started smoking weed when I was like 27. Really? Yeah, just a couple years ago. Wow. Yeah. I would have thought sooner just because you seem good at it. That means the world to me. I mean, I don't know. There are people who do it in a cool way. I feel like I can't be around people and be high. And I think that that I do notice when other people can do that and not be crazy. Do you know what i am always shocked by the number of my friends that are getting like 40 milligram fucking blitzed before like a work event like literally going to work like that it's crazy i remember when i moved to la like you know it was such like comedian culture to like you know smoke cigarettes and whatever outside and i was like oh like i don't want to smoke a cigarette for you like i could like bring a joint and then i could like just go outside and smoke a joint that's I'd be like hanging out.
30:09Yeah. And then I would just get so fucking weird and annoying. I would get so annoying. And it's also like it is a little intense. Maybe it just felt like that at that time, but it is a little intense to walk up to people who are smoking a cigarette and start smoking a joint right next to them. Yeah. Like, oh, Jesus. Enjoy your light, Buzz. I'm about to go to a different fucking planet right next to you, bitch. Yeah. And I have to take like multiple hits to hang out. Yeah. You know? I'm smoking half a joint at the open mic, and then I'm going up. I'm bombing. That is so fucking funny. Yeah, I don't understand.
30:45It's one thing. I have friends who work at gas stations and jobs where I'm like, yeah, sure, get fucking blitzed for that. Friends who are public figures that their job is to speak and be normal, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? That is crazy. I can imagine you do get to a point, though, where you're just so tired of it that you're just like, I don't fucking care anymore. Oh, I'm there. I just can't, I can't be stoned. I won't do well. Yeah. I'm definitely at the point where I'm like, I don't care. I, uh, I just, um, I was just hanging out with someone and I, I saw their, their, they're like an actor and they had like all their weed stuff and then a bunch of eye drops right next to it.
31:24So, and I think to me that alluded to, they're smoking in the morning, they're putting in the eye drops and they're going to set. I think, I mean, like, look, I would love to get to a place where I can be stoned for like all my daily activities. I really want to start experimenting with it. I just am not sharp when I'm stoned. I'm not, I mean, obviously, I'm like literally like dumb, like drooling. Yeah. Like begging for cheeseburgers. Like I'm literally like fiending. I'm being so insane and weird. It's like, no, I don't think I would do good at my job. Yeah, it's not helpful for that kind of thing.
31:55I don't even really know what it is helpful for. It's helpful for chilling the fuck out. In my life, I'm like, weed is really for when like, I don't smoke a ton, but weed is for when I like do not have another thing. Sometimes I'll smoke a little bit when I'm out. Like I smoked a little bit when I was out last night, like two hits and I was fine. But mostly weed is for when I'm like, I have arrived at home. I don't have anything to do for 15 to 26 hours. And I'm going to get as stoned as imaginable and just like zone out. Yeah, that's like 10 o 'clock. I'm going to watch a movie. That's going to be the rest of my night.
32:29I'm going to play, we got a Switch. I really love the Switch. You play video games at all? I play one video game. I play one video game only on Xbox, and it's unfortunately Madden. Whoa. I know. It's so humiliating. It's kind of like if it feels almost as if I was like, yeah, I play like one game, and it's like Quidditch. It's like it just feels like you going online and playing Madden could only result in a harmful language being thrown at you. Oh, I don't. So that's a great point. and I do play against strangers on there. But what I do is, this is kind of the fun for me. I mute them immediately so I can't hear a word they're saying.
33:11Then I turn off, on Xbox you can like replace the game sounds with Spotify. Whoa. You're listening to like Vibe R &B while you play football? Yes. And I'm listening to like folk. I'm listening to like Waxahatchee and Nathaniel Reitliff and Kevin Morby. I'm literally listening to like sad folk songs while I fucking dust these teenagers. I'm hanging like 75 points on some fucking 13-year-old in Wisconsin listening to the saddest country song you've ever heard in your life. They're on the other side going. You just can't hear it. You're blissed out. Meanwhile, the lilacs drink the water. I'm fucking.
33:50I'm blissed out. I'm stoned. I'm running it up. That's so beautiful. I love that, actually. That makes me like it more. My favorite thing to do is to start, and for any Madden heads out there, nobody who listens to this show has ever played Madden. I like to, very first play, run a Hail Mary because I have a specific route that I can hit every time. It really scares my opponents. I think the worst thing about Madden, and this is the last thing I'll say about Madden, on the game podcast, is it really makes you want Michael Vick. What do you mean? Cut that, cut that, cut that. Well, no, no, no, because maybe Madden's not like this anymore, but when I was playing it, it was like Michael Vick is a 100 player.
34:42He's the fastest guy ever. He can throw all the way across the field. He's perfect. He can do everything. And it was crazy to me that they kind of kept that, even despite the dog stuff. Yeah. And I do think that was fucked up. Skill is skill. You can't lie on the game. He's still that good, even with the dog stuff. I guess the dog stuff doesn't affect how good of a player he is, but it feels like there should have been some alluding to that. He loses some charisma points or something. Yeah, like, yeah. Like, maybe they'll make the character, like, handsome or something. Like, I don't know. That's really funny.
35:17Because he did, like, a social ill, we have to, like, make him a little ugly in the game at least. Well, we have to do something because it's like... He went to prison.
35:28We did do something. He went to prison. Yeah, but I don't want to say that's the thing that should happen either. Of course, I understand that. God, my politics are so confusing. Conservatives would have a field day with this moment. Well, he should be punished, but I know that I can't say prison, so. God, so we have to make his character in Madden really ugly? That is so fucking funny. I would love to see you in charge of the law for a little bit. It would mean the world to me. I think I have good politics. I'm just too dumb to figure out how to do stuff. I don't think you're dumb at all. I think you have great politics.
36:05I would love to see you in charge for a couple weeks. I think I could make some real good changes. I mean, I would just get rid of it. I would just destroy everything. I think really what I see is I want to send us back to pre-industrial revolution. How do you mean? Like, people will die a little bit earlier in life. Totally. But we'll farm together and stuff. Yeah. And, like, we'll kind of have everything that we need within, like, our little communities. That's beautiful. Local. Yeah, yeah. Everything localized. And we'll live in kind of, like, you know, we already have what we have. And so, you know, we can kind of, like, make little, like, artist houses out of, like, the skyscrapers and stuff.
36:46Yeah. Do you have any plan for all of the murder and assault that was going on in those societies? Yeah. so I think that like if we just kind of like talk to each other a little bit more and just say hey guys even if you want your neighbor's land you can't kill them you can't kill them yeah I mean I think that we do have to I think ultimately like there should be a lot of really cool places and then there should be like one bad town yeah and then we and then like everybody that like wants to do murders and stuff it's like we send them all to the bad town yeah and it's not prison like they can run that town how they want but they're all doing their shit over there and then maybe they figure out how to work together and how to be in community Crime Town sounds beautiful Crime Town I think is a really good idea Crime Island, we're sending you to Crime Island Crime Island does start to get a little bit prison-y I mean, Crime Island is Australia Oh, now that it's an island I think when you but there's something there somebody who's, again, smarter than me will be able to take Crime Town and figure out how to make it into something Somebody I will have a crime town advisor Yeah I well that's I really think I could be a great I was like watching Zoran I was like I feel like I could do the like The TikToks and then like Oh yeah you could walk down the street and shake hands Yeah and then like I could figure out I think I'd be a really good judge of like who could Who could come in and like The Zoran thing is so funny I love him obviously I'm like thrilled that he won I don't vote here but I would have Very happily voted for him I would also if I lived in LA be voting for Nithya For the record if you're voting in LA vote for Nithya.
38:21Spencer Pratt needs to go to crimetown. Yeah, he needs to go to crimetown. He's a fucking brain-dead belligerent moron and Karen Bass is useless. But I think it's so funny the way that you kind of can't control the vibes assessment that you get from the general public in politics. Zoran will do something. He'll walk down the street and shake hands with people and people will just be like foaming at the mouth ravenous for how cool he is and he is. But then if like if Kathy Hochul did the same thing, they'd be like, they'd be ready to kill her. Like there's just a, and it's, and I also agree with that and feel the same way, but I'm like, how do you, I guess it's just being genuinely cool.
39:00I think it's being genuinely cool. I think there's a certain level of charisma and then also just like being pretty normal. Yeah. I think like a big problem that I feel like I'm seeing a lot of progressive politicians run into is like, they're trying so hard to perform cool. Right. If they were just, like, earnest and kind of having fun, like, Zoran's kind of awkward. He's kind of, like, dorky. And I think that, like, if people, like, kind of stopped trying to, like, I don't know, like, sell a personality, I think they could do better. Not that Zoran's not doing that, but, like. Well, they really thought they were going to get him.
39:36It's so funny. All the times they thought they were going to get him, and then they just boosted his profile by, like, a million. Like, when they put out, they were like, oh, my God, look at this humiliating rap that he did where he was, like, 23 and shirtless and a whole all cart. and I was like, he looks so fun and pretty hot. Yeah. Yeah, he should be the mayor. It was like every time they tried to get him, they just showed him being a normal guy. Yeah. And I think that's also something that I think we're missing a lot. They did the same thing to AOC. Do you remember when they put out that? They were like, look at this video of her dancing on a rooftop.
40:08That was crazy. She looks so hot and fun. Now every day RFK Jr. is dragging a dead deer across the way. I swan. Bringing it in front of a bunch of kids and just fucking stabbing it open. I'm going to have to be like, oh, yeah, when she danced, that was crazy.
40:30Oh, shit. That's so funny. What are you looking forward to? What are you excited about? What's going on with you? I don't know. I'm, like, touring. I have, like, my hour and stuff, and I'm excited to do that more. I really, really like doing shows. I like doing stand-up a lot. That's a lot of what I look forward to. How's the hour going? How has building it been? Like, have there been parts of it that you were... Is this your first hour? Yeah, this is my first hour. Have there been parts of it that you were surprised by? Like, what... Tell me about building the hour. I think, like, it really started from, like...
41:08It's been interesting. I think it's also just, like, evolved throughout my, like, transition and also like I think my political perspective. Like I think when I started I was a lot more like kind of like, I wouldn't say they're hacky trans jokes, but they were just like pretty basic about like how I was perceived and stuff. Yeah, finding voice, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now like now where I'm at with it is I feel so confident in who I am that it is what I'm saying is crazy. and I'm like screaming and I'm going nuts about I don't know, kind of in like a I don't know, like a bash back sort of way or whatever like it's less about me being like, oh I hope that people see me as a girl and more me being like, fuck you, fuck you fuck you and I really like that You have some of my favorite jokes about gender You have, there are two jokes of yours in particular that I think about a lot.
42:13You have, and I'll butcher them in front of you and I don't care. Hell yeah. I don't feel embarrassed. I'm going to butcher your own jokes in front of you. There's the one that you have about being like, about being like, when I was non-binary, I was like, gender's fake. It's completely invented. We don't have to think about this. Like, grow up. Yeah. And then when I transitioned to being a woman, I was like, I'm a girl. I'm actually just a girl. I'm actually just like a girl. Oh, it's funny. I feel like that's a thing that like trans people do a lot because it's like, it's like, and that's not what like non-binary is not soft launching transgender.
42:49I mean, both are non-binary people are trans, but like, um, I don't know. It is really funny when you go from non-binary to binary trans because it's like gender's made up. And then it's like, but I'm maybe a little bit more like this one. But if I had to pick, yeah. Yeah, I love that joke Well, it's such a funny thing to me about The older trans people that I'm friends with Is that they have a real A lot of them a real fucking gripe with non-binary Because they love the binary They're like, no, I was a boy And now I'm a girl And they're very intense about it That's really something I've been running into a lot Is like, I don't know Trans people have such a Diverse array Of opinions about like transness and like how they should be perceived and also like what we should be doing as trans people it feels a lot like leftists to be real it's like so many people have a different idea of it and they get so mad if someone is doing it the wrong way i kind of think that that the whole point of like leftism and transgenderism is being like oh you can kind of do whatever you want that's the point we're fighting for you to just do however you want to do it but you just can't tell anyone else how to do it but yeah i'm like meeting older trans people and they're like talking to me about like i don't know sometimes i'll be like oh like so like did you get like just talking about like work getting work done or whatever and it is a little bit like um yeah we don't really do that anymore all right well and we do and we do but like maybe we don't just kind of spring that on people anymore.
44:28Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I think if I've learned anything from the older queers in my life in general, it's sort of sad and sort of beautiful, but it's the idea that truly everybody, no matter who they are, every group is susceptible to the idea of aging just makes you more conservative. Like, I'll talk to older queer people across the spectrum, and almost every single one of them will say something that I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? Yeah. But it's like, yeah, they, I, I don't know. This is a person who was born in like 1966. Like. Totally. And also it's like, it's very real that like, I don't know, whatever you feel will help you survive.
45:10Especially like, I don't know. It's like trans people like giving me advice, even if it is unsolicited and I don't like the advice that they're giving me. It's like that is coming from a real place of their experience and like what they think. And I, and I do respect it. And I take it and I go, well, it's not for me, but I don't know.
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49:33I'm very grateful that I get to know older trans people. I didn't think that that would ever be a thing for me. yeah like that's crazy um i didn't even really know that that was gonna be a thing like a period but like let alone that like i get to like talk to them i don't know yeah that makes total sense um yeah i think we would uh all of us in general just benefit more from like the thing you're saying of being like yeah someone can tell me something and i can just go that's not for me but thank you it was nice to talk with you about that i think we all would benefit more from just being like oh yeah i don't feel that way it's okay that you do yeah i mean i think then that feels like security and your identity to me is being like oh yeah like you can say something and i don't feel the same way or like i don't want to receive that but like that that doesn't affect me like i don't sure legit no worries yeah no worries i kind of i kind of got my shit down yeah um and you got your shit down and that's okay we don't have to change each other's minds um i mean like be respectful and stuff but that's really all i asked just do whatever you want i just yeah i'm like i don't care do whatever you want i'm gonna do what i want i'm having a great time yeah you can tell me anything you want to tell me and i'm just like yeah i think my favorite people are people that are just like self-aware and non-plussed like i just love people that are like oh yeah i know i'm like this and that's this is a thing i'm willing to try and change this thing i'm not like just very aware of what's going on with them i like that yeah and it's It's really comforting because it is, like, I don't know, it's overwhelming when you're trying so hard to be so many different things the right way.
51:09And I think when you let go of that, it is, like, a very nice feeling to be like, oh, I'm just, like, going to be me and, like, do this my own way. And your way might be, like, some way that I would totally hate. But, like, do it. Yeah. You can do it. Getting back to the hour, because there was a question I wanted to ask you that I forgot about. when you were building your hour did you did you look at it in terms of like any particular spacing like were you like oh I'm going to build two half hours and meld them or I'm going to build four 15 minutes like was there any particular way that you built it out or did you just kind of like vibe it yeah it's kind of like like 20 minutes about like me 20 minutes about like how I grew up and then maybe like 20 minutes about just the world around me and the world either reacting to me or me reacting to the world.
52:04I don't think that was like super intentional, but like I think that that helped me in terms of like putting it together and being like, okay, like what do I want to get across if like somebody's coming and like seeing me and it's like probably my perspective, my experience, and whatever I think is funny right now. and yeah I think it's working really well I just did it last night it was really really fun where'd you do it? I did it for the Netflix as a joke festival you were in LA last night? I was in LA last night when did you get here? this morning oh my god Aiden are you so exhausted? I'm doing 10 out of 10 I said I don't know where Lisbon is and I think that they should make Michael Vick ugly in the games I'm doing 10 out of 10 Did you at least have a direct flight overnight?
52:54Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, thank God. Yeah. That's sick. Where did you run it? What venue? It was at Lyric. Lyric. I love that place. I'm really excited. I think I'm going to get to go. I've had on my calendar for months, and I really think I'm going to get to make it. Next weekend, Steve Hernandez is recording his special there. Oh, my God. And I think I'm going to get to be there for it. I'm really excited. I love Steve Hernandez. He's a fucking legend. So much. Isn't he the best? He's the best. Yeah. I think like maybe the, I would say like maybe number one straight guy that I, or sorry, not straight guy.
53:27Um, number one, but I, what am I trying to say? But I know exactly what you mean. I'm like, I'm like. Number one, like cis, like masculine. Like number one masculine guy. Yeah. Like I, I don't think I've ever met a more positive masculine figure. Yeah. But me being like, oh, the best straight guy is like bisexual. Bisexual and polyamorous. Yeah. Yeah, bisexual players. Yeah, I don't know. He's second. He's so funny. I fucking love Steve. He is, like, one of the most unexpected. Like, when I moved to L.A., I knew Steve from the internet before I moved to L.A. because he and Amy Miller were truly, like, so fucking nice to me.
54:05Like, when I was in Chicago and I had, like, a little bit of internet attention and, like, I was, like, really starting to pick up and, like, I was still not bad at stand-up, but, like, I was very bad at stand-up at one point. At this point, I was decent, but I was, like, really still figuring out my voice. Yeah. Amy and Steve, Amy Miller and Steve Hernandez, truly took such good care of me. They, like, found out I was coming to L.A. And they were, like, Amy was, like, I'm going to call the Lyric Hyperion and, like, try and get you a show slot. And, like, got me booked at Lyric for a headlining show.
54:32And they put me on their podcast. And Amy, like, Amy was, like, if there's any comics you want to know, like, let me introduce you. And Steve, same thing. Like, Steve was, like, if you decide to move to L.A., like, hit me up. And, like, truly, like, I owe them so much for their, like, help to me at that time. Yeah. And I was just blown away. I think they're both so fucking funny, but I was blown away by Steve's point of view and like perspective. Yeah, I just don't think I'd ever met anyone like, like who, like, I don't know. I talked about that stuff before and like also like talked about it with such, like there's like a masculine bravado to talking about like queerness that I had not encountered before.
55:13And I was like, oh, that's so sick. I love that. Yeah. He's up there being like, come on fellas If you've never been f***ing the ass, you haven't lived He's like He's like slapping a football Being like, man Once a guy's f***ing thick You're not going back I'm telling you It's great I love it Yeah, he f***ing cracks me up And Amy too, Amy's so goddamn funny Yeah, and so sweet Amy Miller is a f***ing killer She's so good she has a joke yeah I won't butcher her jokes to you but they're both just so so so fucking funny LA has a lot of like truly for all the jokes about the LA comedy scene which are all valid and very valid completely valid all true based 100 % in facts and data for all of that there are just like some fucking amazing comics in LA that that are I'm just like oh my god you should be so much more famous than some of the people that are famous for this there's much better yeah it's weird i mean i i don't i i don't know if like it's if the move is to come here and like do more stand-up but like for you you mean well for like i there are a lot of people who i think could be like really really good at stand-up but they want to stay in la so that they can like act and stuff um and like that's totally valid or they just want to stay in la because they want to stay in la i think staying in la to stay in la is valid at this point staying in la because you want to act is like, it's like staying in Atlantis because you like being above water.
56:45It's like, that isn't happening there anymore. Like, that's over. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. But LA is such a beautiful place to live. It's like, stay because you enjoy living there. It really is. I love LA. LA's so good. You think you'd ever move here? I do think about it. Well, I really want to have that experience. And I really like my quality of life. LA. I really like being in the sun. I really like my people. But God, to miss out on living in New York City. New York, the big apple. New York City. That was kind of why I moved too. I was just like, I was, I'm sure I'll move back to, I was telling someone the other night, like, I imagine in three years I will probably move back to LA for multiple years and then move back to New York.
57:33I feel like I'm just going to ping pong my whole life. Yeah. And then I'll do something fucking random and move to like Amsterdam or something. But I really was about to turn 30 and I was like, oh, fuck. I am not going to want to do this when I'm 40, I don't think. So I better go do it now. Well, I really want to go out more and be around people more. And I'm sure I could make that happen in L.A., but it feels like a lot more work than to do it here. Whenever I'm here, somebody invites me out every single night. And that's so great. And when I'm in L.A., people want me dead. Maybe people don't like me.
58:08but like that's how people just don't want to go and do stuff i think they're tired of driving they don't want to drive people don't want you dead in la they just do not want to leave the house yeah it's very very rare for people to want to leave the house in la i i think that's it i really my dream my absolute dream is i really want to like have like some some land that i like collectively share with a bunch of other people and we can all have little like tiny homes on it or something. Where do you imagine that's going to happen? I don't know. Maybe like the Pacific Northwest or something. I think you'd be the first queer person to ever try and do that in the Pacific Northwest.
58:46I don't, yeah. If I do it in the Well And guess what? I'll be there. And please do. I really think it could be so beautiful. I mean I just like, I miss hanging out. I like want, I want everybody to be hanging out and I think that if we all lived 20 feet away from each other, maybe a little farther, right? Maybe 30, 40. Maybe 30, 40. Yeah. Then I think it would be really easy. I'm down. Unfortunately, I'm trying to make this, this pitch is not working because of the state politics, but I'm trying to make this pitch for Missouri because Kansas City is so great and so easy to get. It's an hour to Chicago.
59:22It's an hour to Atlanta. It's three to New York and three to LA. It's like the perfect place for touring artists in general. And I keep trying to make this pitch and everyone's like, we don't want to live in Missouri due to the Christo-fascist government. I'm like, totally, totally, totally. And I get it. So it's not happening for me where I want it to happen, but I do have the same vision as you. I'll come. I'll get a gun. Come and get a gun. That's what a lot of my trans friends are doing in Kin City. Hell yeah. Yeah, people are getting armed that have never thought about getting guns before.
59:48I'll tell you that. I love that. I think that's so sick. I think it's chic as fuck. I think that we gotta do it. I mean, it's just... It's not gonna be... Unfortunately, it's not looking like fascism's gonna end with us all kind of praying. I do think that it's going to involve some guns at some point And so I don't think it's a bad idea for us to all brush up a bit Yeah I got some, you know I was an Eagle Scout Oh, I can shoot I can shoot I'm a great shot I don't want to Here's the thing though I'll move before I get involved in any sort of gun revolution I'll go somewhere else I love this country up to a point It's not that I love this country But I love revolution No, I'm sorry See, I'm the opposite.
1:00:32I'm in Les Mis. I'm in Les Mis. I'm in Les Mis. I think I can really Les Mis my life. I keep going back and forth about whether or not I love this country. Sometimes I'm like, of course, objectively, I don't. How could I? And then other times I'm like, I really do love this country. I love like, I don't love our government, but I love like the people and my experiences here and it being home. And like, I love like the physical beauty of this country. Like there are things I love about this country. And I go back and forth about what that means. I'm like, am I patriotic? And then I'm like, ooh, is it actually patriotic?
1:01:03Is it patriotic how much I hate this country? I think, I mean, I think it's like, it's like all you can really care about is people, right? And the people that you're around. It's like hard to care about like a thing, like a country because like what is a country? You know, a government or whatever. I've been thinking about this a lot. What is a country? Is it a government? Is it a border? Is it a, I don't think it's a border, but I'm like, that is what would technically define the, space of a country. So I think it's just like, yeah, I love people in my community. I love people that I'm around.
1:01:38I love the beauty in the place that I grew up and drive through or whatever. Yeah. And I would defend that against data centers or whatever it's going to be. Yeah. I think they're going to pretty soon they're going to introduce the big smashing robot that destroys mountains. And I'm ready. I'm pretty sure that's coming soon. I'm ready to kill the robot. Yeah. They're like, oh, the robot that mows down every tree. It's going to be the Lorax soon. I know it's like, oh, ha-ha, jokes, jokes, jokes, but it's going to be the Lorax soon. Very soon. I really think it is. And we're going to have to kill the once-lur.
1:02:19Do you know what, though? I fucking love being American. Like, when Europeans make fun of Americans, and they're like, you guys are so loud and annoying, and, like, you think that your culture is the center of the universe. I'm like... I don't know I kind of just love being American I love being loud as fuck in Paris I love annoying little French people giving me side eye Like I give a fuck what they think I'm like yeah I'm fucking fat and loud and tall And American and I love it Yeah I can't get enough of it Fuck a baguette I love calories and being loud And country music and football My dick I love it I completely love it Wow you are American I love movies.
1:02:59I love everything we do. I love movies. I love the California coast. I love the fruited plains. You should write a country song. This is crazy. This is a shirt. Fuck everybody. I love America in some ways. Yeah. And tell that to the French people. Yeah. I mean, I do think they get a little obsessed with rules. I like what I what I do like about American culture is that I do think there's there's an idea I don't know that we follow it but like that like oh nobody's gonna fuck with us like we're not gonna listen to anybody else's rules you know we're not gonna let anyone step on us or whatever totally and that's when we start doing war crimes and then yeah and I'll say that's where I step off yeah right at our war crimes I do start to step away but if that idea like like if that idea was cool that would be really great of just being like i'm gonna do me fuck you you can't tell me what to do yeah i like that idea i don't like that that involves the destruction of the world for some reason not into that part of it at all into that part at all but i don't know i really feel like there's just there's just a little misaligning where we could really get some people to turn over into being like, oh, wait, I don't think that the government's...
1:04:25It doesn't have to be this way. I guess that's... I think people really feel like it has to be this way. What is so true to you, Hayden? Oh, I have one. Okay. You'll be the first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. And this goes kind of along with what we've been talking about. Okay. I don't... I think that people have to stop making fun of furries. Full stop. Say that. I think that they are amazing. They're sweet people. And also, it's, well, also it's hack. It's hack as hell. It's like, we've heard it. You think they're weird? Bitch, you're weird. Your boyfriend hates you. It's like, I promise you're weird.
1:05:10Also. Also, they're eye doctors. They have a lot going on. Yeah. We're going to need them for the revolution. Yeah, we do. When the revolution comes, we'll need their hacking. It'll come in a tail. Yeah, that's right. When the revolution comes, it'll be wearing ears. It'll come in a tail, yes. And these people have money. Yeah. And when we go up against the American government, we're going to have to do guerrilla warfare. Yes. It's not going to be pretty, but we're going to have to be in the woods and stuff. And who's going to want to be the guerrilla? That's right. That's right. Furries. Yes.
1:05:46Yeah. Well, they're going to be looking for a bunch of people. They're going to be looking for a bunch of people hiding out in the woods. Yeah. They're going to see a bunch of deers and foxes, and they're going to go, well, they're not here. They're going to go, that's so realistic, that fox. That has to be real. That fox must be real. It's so tall and standing on two legs. And then they turn around. That fox has a gun. Hello. That's right. That's just a fox grazing in the forest. Surprise. The fox has a shotgun. You're done. Yeah. You're cooked. I think that's how we win. I think that's beautiful.
1:06:14And I don't think, yeah. I think they're so lovely. I just don't think we should be... I'm an ally to the furry community. Everyone that I've met has been absolutely lovely. I don't want to be personally involved with the costumes, but I love seeing them do their thing. I love that they have entire personalities and personas for them. Yeah. I think it's beautiful and creative and wonderful. Me too. I don't have enough closet space. Otherwise, you know. Or, I mean, the financial investment is crazy. Yeah, it really is. The financial investment is crazy. You could buy a very nice luxury vehicle for what they're spending on these costumes.
1:06:45Yeah, and in a way, isn't that beautiful that they spent it on a handcraft sort of piece of art? More people should do things like that. Yeah. That is absolutely beautiful. We need the furries. We'll need them in the revolution. We will. I send my love to them. Me too. And by the way, they hurt nobody. They hurt nobody. They hurt nobody. They're not recruiting like Christians. No. You're welcome if you want to come, but they're not out firing. No, and if they did, then, you know, we could talk about that. But they're not. They're existing. They're being lovely. They're being kind to each other.
1:07:18Like, their community is mostly, like, free of Nazis, I think. I think it's a totally Nazi-free space. I think there's a couple in there. Are there Nazis in there? There's a couple in there. But they get, like, excommunicated. They're, like, you know, they're really good about keeping the Nazis out. Something that the Christians are historically bad at. Not so big on. Yeah, they elect them. Yeah. Yeah, they really like them. They like keeping them around. I think this is completely beautiful. Do you have a furry in your life? I have a couple. and they're all really nice. That is beautiful. Yeah.
1:07:48I like, I just, I feel like, I also feel like there's a little bit of shame there because for a while it was like, you know, you're in like middle school or whatever and you're like, that's weird. That's creepy. You know, it's like you don't understand it and you want to not be different. I mean, to your point, it's not weirder than being in a loveless marriage of convenience. Yes. That's way fucking weirder and a lot of people do that every single day and we're expected to interact with them like they're fucking interesting and they're not. Yeah, and I think there's something about growing up and also being like, oh, again, with what we were talking about, it's just being like, oh, I can just do whatever I want and I should be allowed to do whatever I want, whatever makes me happy.
1:08:27And if that's furries, furry shit, go off. I think that's so cool. I think that's so cool. I think that's so cool. Shout out to furries and their fursonas. Yes. I love them. I want them to be well, and I do welcome them in the revolution. And I think when the revolution comes, I hope that they'll be out there on the front lines. I don't we don't need them to be on the front lines they need to be on the front lines they need to be on the front lines but I'm gonna be sending love to them from a safe location somewhere far away y 'all start putting vests inside those suits yeah that could be that could be cool I'm gonna be posting on my Instagram story shout out to all the furries in Cleveland today that were a part of the battle I'm on like a terrace yeah I'm on I'm on a terrace in Ibiza yeah on Signal I love it That's so funny Do you have any skills I don't know about?
1:09:20Do you have any useful skills for the revolution or otherwise? God Oh no I know how good you are at comedy Yeah, I'm kind of just like nice to be around Sometimes I completely agree Oh gosh I like cooking, I'm getting into cooking a lot What are you making? I'm making a lot of, I really love breakfast But I'm making a lot of curries. I'm making a lot of salmon. What kind of curries? You know, just like a golden curry. Ooh. Yeah, red curry. I don't know. I really like spicy food. A lot of the people in my life don't like spicy food, so it's kind of. I do. You do? Yeah, I would eat. If you made spicy curry for me, I would go crazy.
1:10:06Okay, well, when you're in L.A. for Steve Hernandez. You won't be back yet, though, will you? Will I? Yeah, I'll be back. I thought you were going to be here for like two weeks. I'll be here for a week. Oh, wow. You'll be back. This is huge. Will you make curry for me for real? Absolutely. Do you mean it? Yes. Can I hang out with your boyfriends? Definitely. I would love for you to meet my boyfriends. Oh, my God. Life is so good right now. Do I get to meet all five or just the two mains? I would say the two mains, but the other three come around sometimes. One of them is not around at the moment.
1:10:35Okay. No worries. Extremely vague and scary, and I actually don't want you to go anymore into that. I'd rather play a game. I'm like, they're in Europe. They're not around right now. They're unavailable. In the woods. Hayden, I'm going to read you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false. And baby, if you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 US dollars. Can I double or nothing? Yes. Great. You're the first person to ever ask. Wait, how do I double or nothing? You're the first person to ask. I don't know what it means, but we'll do it.
1:11:08Okay, great, great, great. Here's what I'll tell you. Okay, so you need to get 10 or more correct to get$50. How about if you get 13 or more correct, I'll give you$150. Work. You ready? Okay. Walk in. Okay, Rugrats ran for nine seasons. True. That is true. The iPhone 5S was released in 2013. False. That is true. Chimpanzees or herbivores? True. That is true. All metals are magnetic. False. That is false. Monroe, Ohio's motto is firmly founded, proudly growing. True. That is true. Jimmy John's was founded in 1983. True. That is true. One light year is a measurement of time. True. False. It's distance.
1:11:54Hey, fuck. Jellyfish are 95 % water. True. True. The Mojave Desert is in Africa. False. False in the U.S. Ohio, is it Mojave or Mojave? Mojave. Thank you. Ohio University's mascot is Randy the Bobcat. False. False. It's Rufus the Bobcat. Hell yeah. All arachnids have eight legs. False. True. It is true. Carly Rae Jepsen played soccer in college. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
1:12:41What? It's a bunch of, like, science and history.
1:12:54I want double or nothing on if Carly Rae Johnson played soccer. True. False. False.
1:13:12That's crazy. Oh, my God. A heptagon has seven sides. True. That is true. Switzerland is landlocked. True. True. Bonnie Raitt has never won the Grammy for Album of the Year. False. That is false. I'm so sorry. I think you got 12. 12. Oh, my God. That's okay. So now you get nothing. Yeah. And all because I hadn't been following what Carly Rae Jepsen was up to in college. You could have asked me anything about her and it would have been pretty 50-50 if I'd get it. Who could know about her? Was she really good? She did not. She didn't play. Oh, wait. Chance just goes into his fucking weird little brain and pulls out something to say.
1:14:05He's a sick... By the way, he gets a lot of them wrong. There's a lot of contesting. Please, please search stuff. Does anyone... Do you have Carly Rae Jemsen's contact? Yeah, you want to call her? I would love to. No, I'm kidding. Could you imagine? I have her number and we call her right now and go, did you ever touch a soccer ball in college? I'm talking one afternoon with friends is all I need. Carly Rae Jemsen, I'm calling on you, please. Once in the park with friends, if you touch the soccer ball, I think I can get this money, please. Oh my god Hayden, tell people where they can find you please And how they can support you Oh my god, yeah You can follow me on Instagram At underscore Hayden underscore Johnson I'm also on Blue Sky I'm trying to get people into Blue Sky I really think we should get into Blue Sky I think Blue Sky is good You gotta get past some of this shit But I think it can be fun over there But nobody's joining It's just me and like 10 weirdos and then I'm touring right now my hour is called Piss Queen I'm in a bunch of cities I don't know when this comes out but you can find them on my Instagram oh yeah rock on thanks for doing it this was great thanks for having me Apple Pay is the simple secure and fast way to pay that's because your credit or debit card is right on your iPhone accepted at millions of places from big box stores to boutiques you can check out with your iPhone anywhere contactless payments are accepted Apple Pay is more secure than a physical card because you authenticate your purchases with Face ID before you pay, and your actual card number is never shared with merchants.
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