In short
Maggie Winters (comedian) talks about being overwhelmed by online comments, living in the “real world” vs screen-mediated discourse, and the mental/emotional toll of touring. She also covers travel habits (food, water, exercise), hotel/booking frustrations, body/health experiences (eczema, heartburn from KFC), and her creative process and affirmations while filming in Chicago and starting a new podcast.
Guests
None. The episode is a conversation with Maggie Winters and her co-host/other speaker (not identified by name in the transcript).
Guest backgrounds
Not applicable (no named guest). Maggie Winters is a stand-up comedian and podcaster; she’s filming “Trash Mountain” in Chicago and has a new show called “Literally Life Changing with Maggie Winters” on Stapleview.
Key claims
Online commenters police identities and are “unreal people,” while real-life friends talk differently; touring “away life” becomes the real life if you don’t maintain habits; brands should stop sending random swag; affirmations help her manage circumstances; she’s focusing on process over outcomes.
Notable examples
KFC “timeout” after Nashville Hot Nuggets + ranch caused severe heartburn; eczema mistaken for ringworm; hotel issues (reservation under someone else’s name; accounts shut off for spending); “17,000 children died today” news doomscrolling; “stay at a four-star hotel” advice; she and her dad debate politics; she wants to make a grounded end-of-the-world-ish movie script.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction of Marguerite Winters
1:32 to 3:01
Hosts discuss names, nicknames and personal anecdotes.
“And I called them and I said, I'm not allowed to donate money to charity.”
Exploration of Gender and Relationships
3:01 to 3:52
Discussion on older women and their friendships and relationships.
“Oh, it was - Maybe the name was like - I'm getting it wrong, but it was a woman they called Van.”
Eczema and Skin Conditions
3:52 to 5:06
Hosts share experiences with eczema and the impact of skin conditions.
“I am a gold member at the Weber grill, honey.”
Traveling and Eating Habits
5:06 to 6:57
Discussion on unhealthy eating habits while traveling for work.
“And I, we had like, I got like a steak and like sides.”
Fast Food and Cravings
6:57 to 8:07
Hosts share their experiences with KFC and fast food cravings.
Mental Health and the Reality of Life on the Road
8:07 to 9:32
Hosts discuss the emotional challenges of being on the road and managing mental health.
“Every fat person has a thing that they've had to put themselves on timeout for.”
Affirmations and Self-Improvement
9:32 to 11:28
Discussion on affirmations and the pursuit of happiness.
“One of the first times I got stoned out of my mind was in Amsterdam.”
Creative Process and Current Projects
11:28 to 14:00
Maggie discusses her current project and the creative process involved.
Choosing Happiness and Creative Process
14:00 to 16:40
The discussion revolves around the importance of choosing happiness and being creatively engaged in one's work.
“Why don't you just call my dad once a day?”
Hotel Experiences and the Importance of Amenities
16:40 to 20:30
A humorous exploration of hotel experiences, emphasizing the differences in service and amenities across hotel star ratings.
“And they're like, well, you're not Connor Wood, so you can go to hell.”
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Dealing with Hotel Check-in Challenges
20:30 to 21:50
The hosts share personal anecdotes about frustrating hotel check-in experiences and the absurdity of policies.
“And I was stopped right next to her on my bike.”
Social Media Disconnect and Real Life
21:50 to 25:50
A conversation about the disconnect between online social interactions and real-life friendships, discussing people's reactions to online jokes.
“But Taylor Hanson's making my day way better with these new soft and swirly King's Hawaiian cinnamon bites.”
The Disconnect in Online Identity
25:50 to 26:50
Understanding how people's online identities can lead to misunderstandings and reactions to humor.
“And I really don't like, so much of I think watching TV, like really, like being good at keeping up with something is watching TV alone.”
Excited for the Live Chat
28:00 to 29:10
Discussion about an upcoming live chat event, excitement and logistics.
“We'll also be live chatting about it in a WhatsApp group chat.”
Love for Music and TV
29:10 to 31:23
Hosts share their current favorite music and reminisce about pop culture.
“The thin people are always trying to get a like, wow, change skinny to fat here and see if you like it.”
Maggie's New Podcast
31:23 to 32:55
Maggie introduces her new podcast and discusses its purpose and fun aspects.
“I had poke for the first time in Hawaii.”
The Process of Podcasting
32:55 to 35:08
Maggie and Caleb discuss their experiences and surprises in podcasting.
“And now it's become like – Is it doing okay?”
Navigating Social Events
35:08 to 36:00
Conversations about social outings and the pressure of attending multiple events.
“Those have a lot more sticking power than the more times that you go to something and it turns out to be awesome.”
Creative Projects and Family Dynamics
36:21 to 42:00
Maggie shares a creative project idea involving her family dynamics during the election.
“All the time on tour, not so much anymore, but we'd be like, go to a really fun bar, meet cool people, and they'd be like, come to this.”
Reflections on Political Identity
42:00 to 43:31
The hosts discuss past political affiliations and their evolving perspectives.
“I had an I'm with her shirt that I wore every day that I could.”
Creative Projects and Aspirations
43:31 to 44:59
Maggie shares her aspirations for film projects and artistic direction.
“bored and going like yeah i guess i'll download the epstein victims book it's like that's crazy i know and then now i feel kind of a guilt where i'm like i have to read it because she told her story.”
Indie Film Revival
44:59 to 46:24
A discussion on the need for a resurgence in indie films and storytelling.
“We get to hang out with Nicole and Chance.”
Food Choices and Personal Habits
46:24 to 48:09
The hosts share their food preferences and experiences with fast food.
“we need a chef on site because we don't want to be eating the fried stuff we need a chef on site because if we don't have one, we will forget about the concept of vegetables.”
Boundaries in Daily Life
48:09 to 50:34
Maggie discusses instances where personal boundaries were crossed.
Fame and Communication
50:34 to 52:45
Discussion on how fame affects communication and personal interactions.
Quiz Segment with Maggie
52:45 to 56:00
Caleb quizzes Maggie on true or false statements for fun and prizes.
“Yeah, I mean, do you change your email if you like reach a point of fame?”
True or False Game with Maggie
56:00 to 57:18
Maggie participates in a rapid-fire true or false game with Caleb.
“I was on this live, so don't think I don't know.”
Reflections on Guest Performance
57:18 to 58:34
Caleb shares humorous insights on guest participation and the pacing of the game.
“You know, it's like they've just like looked around the room and it's like, okay.”
Evolving Podcast Segments
58:34 to 59:54
Caleb and Maggie discuss potential and failed segments for the podcast.
“We had some more segment ideas when we started this podcast.”
Art and Podcasting
59:54 to 1:02:38
A dialogue on the artistic aspects of podcasting and personal anecdotes.
“And one of the things she did was that she, in like maybe the 70s, she did like a big billing of like, oh, I'm going to have a solo show at this museum.”
Transcript
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1:39And they said, well, we consider this amount unusual. And I said, I am unusual. I am unusually kind.
1:52Marguerite. Bonjour. Bonjour. Hi, Viv. Oh my God, you marguerited me right away. Marguerite. Well, you know, I just think it's fancy. I like it. It is fancy. If I was in a different place in life, I'd probably go by it. By Marguerite? Yeah, I didn't when I lived in France. Because my team, my team, the people, the family I lived with. Calling your host family your team. I hate the word team so much that it was in my head. But it was harder for them to say Maggie because as French people, they'd be like, Magui. Magui. But Marguerite. Marguerite. Was like easier. That's so beautiful. But they called me that, yeah.
2:26Can I call you that? Yeah, of course. I'll just go, guys, this next comic, I've known her for years. She's an absolute killer. Please welcome to the stage, Marguerite Winters. I come out, everyone's like, isn't that Mag, just Maggie? Yeah, they're like, I think that's Magdog. Not Magdog, please. I saw her in a gutter off Malort last night. I don't think that's Marguerite. Oh my God, Magdog. My grandma's name was Marguerite, but they called her Madge. Madge, that's really cool. Is it? Wait, what was one I heard the other day that I really liked? Oh, I meant to write this down. Oh, God. It was - For Marguerite?
3:02No. Oh, it was - Maybe the name was like - I'm getting it wrong, but it was a woman they called Van. Okay. Like her name - They were like, oh, that's Van. But her name was like Evangeline or something. Oh, that's cool. And I was like, Van's a fun nickname for that. Yes, yeah. I feel like - Was she gay? Well, you know, all older women kind of are. Yeah, I'm learning that. Don't you feel that? I'm kind of learning that everyone is obviously a little gay. All women in their 70s and 80s, you talk to them or you hear them talked about and it's like, oh, that's Madge. Her and her husband had nothing in common.
3:37Her greatest joy is when he went on a work trip and she got to be alone for a week. Her deepest, most important relationships with a woman in her life. They were the only ones that knew how to hold her when she was upset. It's like, that's a gay woman. Honey, they just weren't allowed, you know? Yeah. They really didn't know they could go there. god that was made it so hot though when it happened when they're 70 years old yes yes i talked to my mom about now my mom's too tired she's she's always laying down your mom's and i and i went oh my god she she is she's one of the funniest people in the world without meaning to be my skin is so dry that it's like falling apart welcome to chicago i know eczema i'm home is that eczema no it's just well i guess what's the difference between eczema and dry skin a lot I was going to say Honey a lot I don't want to upset the eczema community I'm part of it It's okay guys Are you?
4:26Yeah Oh wow I've had it since I was born I have new Mueller eczema too Which is It looks like a ringworm Which is awesome Because people will be like Oh you have ringworm I go no no no I have new Mueller eczema It's called eczema And they're like well Check it out People are saying Oh you have ringworm to you They're pointing at me Ma 'am ma 'am ma 'am ma 'am ma 'am You're disgusting You have ringworm Yeah you have ringworm You need to get out of this Weber grill. I am a gold member at the Weber grill, honey. No, I've never been. You haven't? Would you go? What's funny is I visited Chicago in high school and it was like the first major like US city I'd ever visited.
5:00Like I'd never, major city at all. I'd never, I'd been to like Kansas City. Yeah. But I haven't been to like a big, big city. And we went to the Weber grill in downtown Chicago that has the grill hanging off of it. Of course, iconic. And I, we had like, I got like a steak and like sides. And I remember being like, this is the fanciest restaurant in the world. like I left being like Weber grill is like the height of dining and I and I genuinely was like we left and I was like I can't believe we did that I can't believe we were at the Weber grill do they do they cook the steaks on a Weber grill there I don't know I would love to know I wish they did Weber grill reach out please dm me and let me know it's funny the podcast has gotten to a place now where when we mention stuff they do reach out it used to be a joke to be like to be like oh you know Hershey's reach out and then they're in my dms being like can we send a hat and it's like hold on.
5:48Hershey's. First of all, yes. And second of all, honestly, here's one thing I want to say. Say it. Brands need to stop sending shit. Yeah. Unless it is extremely cool. Yes. But when they're just sending you like a water bottle and a hat, it's like, hey, so that's more shit that I'm either throwing away or is sitting in my closet that I don't have room for. Yes. Stop sending shit. Stop. Unless it's something I need. Unless it's something I need. Yeah. Call me. Call me on the phone. Say, what do you need? Those closet kill, what do you need? How could Hershey's serve you? and if they're not sending the thing that they make like if they're sending you a hat and not chocolate it's like what the hell send chocolate please send chocolate and honestly even if you're not a chocolate brand then chocolate bows yeah oh my god both send chocolate bp oil send chocolate everybody send chocolate bucket of oil you're like what the hell is this god i'm trying to eat better oh my god how's it going yeah my girl daisy hooked you up yeah i i'm trying to eat better here's the thing yeah say it this is the realization i had and i wonder if you feel similarly okay because you are you've been on the road for so long now with connor and like doing all these shows and i basically what happened was there was a period of years there where my career was starting out and i would be gone sometimes yeah and it was like oh my away life is like this fake free time where i can do whatever i want and i would eat fried food at two in the morning and i would smoke weed and like fuck off and not exercise and not drink water yeah and i'd be like that's fine because it's my away life it's fake and now i have i have realized my home life is fake and my away life is life yeah and so i'm like actually if every time you're staying somewhere else you don't move your body and drink water and eat one singular vegetable yes that actually is just your life yes and then at home i'm like i'm like eating salads and stuff and being like oh it's so good to be home and it's like yeah you have to do this elsewhere you have to do this all the time you have to add vegetables into the rotation is what they say or is key but it's tough because away life used to be just like a fake little game that didn't exist no i a thousand percent agree do you know what i mean yes i had to have this conversation with myself because for a long time the airport meant like an airport drink and an airport snack yeah about 40 and then i had to be like this is actually for work yeah so i'm gonna bring myself a granola bar and i'm not gonna look at auntie ann's or whatever the hell yeah yeah well it's hard because at a certain point like when you travel for work as much as we do going to the airport kind of becomes like catching an uber yes like you're like oh if i don't get on that flight i'll just get on the next one like right it really becomes such a rote thing that you do have to like check your habits and be like yes oh i can't actually eat garbage at 8 a.m no because it's gonna ruin my whole day i was buying flips you know flips chocolate covered pretzels oh yeah and i was going we don't need to be buying flips every time we're at the airport yeah like yeah literally we were I was like, it triggered my brain.
8:32I was like, where are the airport? Where are the flips? Every fat person has a thing that they've had to put themselves on timeout for. Yes. Last year, I had to put myself on a KFC timeout. Yeah. Which was... No! What were you getting? I had to go on a KFC break. This is so horrendous, Maggie. I'm just going to say something. Say it. I was getting the Nashville Hot Nuggets from KFC. Yes. Dipping it in their ranch. Of course. They're like prepackaged. and getting a kind of heartburn that doctors don't even yet understand. There are certainly lines in my heart, lungs, and stomach lining right now from that.
9:10And I was doing it enough. I probably did it like, in my defense, I did it like four times in two weeks. Yeah. Which isn't psycho, but it is certainly crazy. Like in the levels of what you should. Yeah. And I literally, I had to, I'm not kidding when I say I looked myself in a physical mirror and said, no more KFC. No more KFC. Stop it. Delete the, yeah. Yeah, KFC's about to reach out and be like, we want to look you up. Can we sit chocolate? Oh, my God. One of the first times I got stoned out of my mind was in Amsterdam. Yeah. My 21st birthday. Because I was like there and I was like, I can drink.
9:41And everyone was like, you can drink here when you're 10. So like, get over it. So smoke. So they're like, yeah. So I had a space cake and I was so high and I saw KFC. Yeah. I remember eating it and being like, there's no greater food in the world. KFC is special. But then the next day I was like, and it was in Amsterdam though. I was like, what is my problem? Nothing. I truly knew that nothing would ever stop me from eating garbage when there was an, I was like big on KFC in college when I was really depressed. Yeah. And I saw like a, there was like one of those articles that was like, like dead mouse found in KFC bucket of chicken.
10:10And they had accidentally like breaded and fried the mouse and ended up in a bucket. And I saw that and I was like, that's someone else's problem. There's never been one in my bucket. I wish that the hair in my food. I'm like, I actually don't care. I'm still eating this. I wish I could have, I have friends who are like, oh my God, this, something looks off. and I'm like, I wish I had that inside of me. I have friends. I wish things could look off to me. Put that in me. No, I have friends that are like, oof, can we not eat there? That place has like a B health rating. I'm like, I don't fucking care.
10:38I don't give a shit. The government's not going to tell me where to eat. No, we don't have those kind of ratings in Chicago. Yeah. Which the bear season one, they kind of did the ratings thing. Oh, did they? So calling on them out on that. Yeah, go ahead. Call out the bear. One of the first scenes, he's like putting a C and we go, we don't do that. That's not us. That's not us actually. Make us sick. Make us sick. Make us sick. Make us sick. Mr. Beef, I want it. If I don't walk in and I don't see dirt on the ground, I'm like, I don't want it. Why am I here? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I really, I did put myself on a KFC timeout.
11:06Oh, my God. How are you doing mentally and emotionally? Oh, God. Actually, oh, my God. What if I start sobbing? That's okay. Maggie, that's okay. For real, that's okay. The episode got really weird. No, this podcast is many things. I think being on the road a lot is, like, so hard. and like the food the the trying to move my body but then i'm so tired from like the travel part of it they like get to my hotel and i'm like i would just love to lay here for hours but then actually that doesn't feel good yeah and then i have to like go do a comedy show yeah but then i'm like i have to be the clown tonight i know yeah i have to put on my nose and then you like open your phone and the internet's like 17 000 children died today and you're like great no i wanted to see that yeah i was hoping for that no that's good yeah and also someone i hate is on vacation yeah and someone else booked and i didn't um yeah every time i every time you open your phone it's like hey two big things you didn't book and someone else did 17 000 children are dead and it's like okay and then all of a sudden you're like let's see what's up at kfc yes and then you're like you know what i said no to that i'm gonna go back to that yeah i am and the thing about when i when i don't book is like i'm always like i think i'm gonna get this part and then i like open my fun and it's like Meryl Streep booked it I'm like oh right it was me or her it was me or her I think I think those are the most frustrating ones where like you later learn like oh they were waiting to hear back from the person they wanted that's not offer only yeah and in the meantime they collected tapes and I stupidly killed myself trying to do good I was literally like telling people like I think that something big's coming yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely not how are you doing mentally emotionally if i could sum it up for you in an anecdote yeah uh two days ago i downloaded an affirmations app okay to create affirmations for me yes i'm working on i've kind of moved away from the idea that i can control any circumstances in my life yeah and i've moved towards the idea of i'm over that i'm not gonna worry about circumstances anymore it's no longer my i'm not focused on that now i'm trying to make my brain so strong that i can handle anything that ever happens to me yeah and so i've moved into affirmations which is 100 a cry for help yeah like i'm like to be that's what everyone says is the thing to do like be delusional i'm trying to be i'm genuinely trying to tap more into delusion i moved away from it briefly i was delusional for a long time and then i checked in on reality too hard and now i'm trying to move back to delusion yeah so i'm reading affirmations and i'll follow you there just pick me up and we'll get there i'll tell you one it gave me yesterday i have to delete it because i think they're using ai um so i have to delete the app and find a new way to get my affirmations um but the one they made me yesterday it says i am in charge of how i feel and today i am choosing happiness that's the kind of stuff i'm working on that's the kind of stuff i'm in charge of how i feel and today i'm choosing happiness that is crazy because that's like shit my dad used to say to me when i was younger 100 100%.
14:02Why don't you just call my dad once a day? I will, first of all. I'll be like, get off the bicycle and let's chat. Let's go, Willie. What's crazy is I am in a place in my life where reading that moved me almost to tears. You're so right. I was like, yeah, why didn't I choose happiness? Stupid, stupid. I was like, you should have chosen happiness, you fool. You idiot. That was there all along. No, I'm good. I'm making this movie right now. We're in the beautiful city of Chicago because I'm filming Trash Mountain. And it's so exciting. Yes. But, yeah, it's been a year of, like, working really hard and making stuff.
14:40And it's been so cool. And I feel really creatively tapped into something that I've never been tapped into. Yeah. Not never, but I've been creatively tapped. I've been tapped into creativity before. But I feel right now tapped into, like, an obsession with process that feels so good. to be like i am actually not focused on outcome right now and i've talked about this a lot but i am actually genuinely focused on process at the moment and i love it yeah and also i am really tired yeah you know yeah so the affirmations are like needed yes and i'm drinking a bunch of water oh come on for two reasons right here my body needs it yes i've heard and also number two i've been uh training a lot to be able to cry on camera oh my god you need the water for this movie and one of the things that came up in like my research and and like process building was like you need to drink a fuck ton of water because you're about to get it out it needs to expel that makes sense to me it does to me too but why did i didn't think of that so now i'm like a guy who carries a water bottle around yes oh i have one of those like the juggy it's a hydro drug it's like this it's huge yeah and i'm like walking around like yeah hello you guys in my hotel like on tour i'll be like where's the ice in the water yeah and what's crazy to me is if you stay like a nicer like a four-star hotel they're like every floor has ice and water you stay at a three they're like you you should go down the block and kill yourself we don't have water here are you out of your mind yeah my favorite is when you stay like a well here's my big hotel yeah uh thing that most people listening to this are going to find unlikable and unrelatable okay okay and that's just where things are right now yeah i'm sorry but that's where things are right now but the best thing to do it the best place you can stay is a four-star hotel yeah a two and one are obviously just like not even in the conversation for me at this point i've had that chapter of my life and it's i hope it's gone forever threes are threes are like that it's just like no amenities the room is usually pretty nice but like they don't care that you're there no and then you think like oh what about a five star actually no actually no because those are usually like 120 years old yeah they haven't renovated the toilet they haven't like the shower's not gorgeous yeah and they do they will do amenities really nice like if you call the front desk at a five-star hotel and you're like i need a chocolate cake now they'll find you one yeah but it's too much money for not being as nice as a four star four star yeah so i just want to tell you guys for anyone who's able to partake in this conversation that's my take yeah stay at the four star if you can the three star just know that when you check in they're gonna be pissed that you're there they're mad they're yeah oh my god every time they're mad your room is not ready no by the way yeah by the way they sometimes don't have your reservation as well oh as an opener i sorry and shout out to my openers out there you get because my name is sometimes under Connor's name.
17:17I'll be like, oh, it's for Connor Wood. And they're like, well, you're not Connor Wood, so you can go to hell. And I'm like, I'm going to get him on the phone. I'm like, what is it? What do you think I'm trying to stalk him? Probably. There's people out there. I've had this issue so many times where I've bought a hotel room for someone that works with me and that the hotel is like, he needs to come in here in person and look us in the eyes. I'm like, what 1800s business contract is this? They have my card, my social, my name. What stranger off the street would guess that I'm staying here and then have the confirmation number.
17:47Somebody is going to watch this and be like, I'm figuring it out. They shut down my Chase credit card, shut down all of my accounts the other day because I spent too much. Not over the limit. They just didn't like that I spent. And you know what? I'll tell you what I did. I don't care. I don't care. I'll tell you what I did. I donated a lot of money to a charity. Let's go. And I called them and I said, I'm not allowed to donate money to charity. and they said well we consider this amount unusual and I said I am unusual I am unusually kind and turn my shit back on the person on the phone's like what the hell I am unusual unusually generous turn my shit on now I'm gonna be donated again and I'll do it again don't clock it and I did the next day I donated again oh my god do a different thing but I was like you guys can't just turn my shit off no that yeah the hotel thing is very real and also I want to say like me getting distracted by I don't know a piece of chip on the floor someone the other day in one of my shows was like so you have ADHD right?
18:49I was like what? because I just get just like during a show someone stands up and is like I'm gonna say I'm gonna talk about it. Yeah. And they're like you have ADHD? I was like I don't think so I've never been diagnosed and she goes well there's seven kinds so oh my god. Damn. Who is this? Were you speaking with a medical doctor? Yeah they had a white coat on in the middle of the show and I was gonna Halloween show. She puts a sethicle on her chest. She goes, breathe in for me. Yeah. Like, what's going on? You have ADHD. I had to have a physical the other day. Ooh, yeah. For the movie, like, to clear me for insurance or whatever.
19:19And the guy came to set, and he was really nice. He was really sweet. But he was, like, every time I would do something, he would, like, praise me in a way that felt like, either you think I'm stupid or you're, like, shocked that a fat person can stand up. Oh, my God. But he was, like, stand on one leg for me. And I have really good balance, actually. And I stood on one leg for, like, kind of a long time. and he was like, okay, show off. And I was like, do you not think I can stand? No, people think that fat people can't do anything. I know, it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, this is obviously classic, but I remember getting a burger without, I got a lettuce-wrapped burger, and this girl at my old job, she was like, good for you.
20:01I was like, I'm about to order a fucking baguette to this room. To this room. Fuck you, yeah. Yeah. Don't comment. Do not. Yeah. I had a moment like this recently where I was biking in New York and I stopped at a, it was like, there was like construction on a four way. Yeah. And so they had like, you know, like staff, not staff, but like whatever, like I'm thinking of MoDOT, which is Missouri Department of Transportation, but like whatever the transportation people are out there, like guiding traffic. Yes. And there was an older like Caribbean woman in a thing, like stopping people. And I was stopped right next to her on my bike.
20:34So we're, you know, like this. And I was like, hey, how's your day going? and she was like pretty good not bad i won't do the accent and i know you i know you guys want me to but i'm not going to and by the way it's not because i wouldn't kill at it but i was like hey how's your day going and she's like she's like pretty good it's been like nice weather and stuff i was like oh cool is everyone being nice and she's like yeah yeah and i was like god it's a beautiful day and she was like it is and you're getting some exercise and i'm not getting you i went oh sure am i was like i was like and then the thing turned for me to go and i was like well have a good day and she was like you too oh my god but she was like an older caribbean like yeah it was like a nice thing to say and i was like i am getting some exercise it's not untrue she's about to go home and be like you guys i saw a miracle today she's like i saw a man change his life today i think i encouraged him on like a normal bike ride i take all the time yeah oh my god no i yeah just leave me alone actually leave me alone is like a big sentiment that i have yeah yes that i go just leave me alone if you're yeah leave me alone on the internet big time but that's not gonna happen what's happening to you on there i mean not just me i just feel like everyone like you can't you can't like post anything without like some you can you can't post like i could post just whatever hello i just absolutely help me no you could post like um hey guys I'm I'm unusual I'm donating to charity today yeah and people would be like you have insane hands or something you're like well what the hell is that about yeah they're coming for you they actually come from my nostrils all the time I talk about it a lot you've told me you've told me that this is a all the time or just like in general I like you go to someone else's video and then like the first comment is like nothing to do with the video and you're like this person I guess we all just need therapy.
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23:25i don't know yeah do you think so maybe i don't know i think that um i'm just worried about people everyone's mean i am too people are mean and people are not um we're just not connected no we have we need to it's a lot of anti-social behavior that i'm like and also even people i like like people that you know sometimes um i don't want to talk too much about like the internet but some people that that comment things to me were like like when i make a joke about like lesbians or something. Yeah. And like lesbian, like 10 lesbians will comment and be like, thousands of people love the joke. Yes.
23:56And then 10 people will be like, I don't like that he feels comfortable speaking on people this way. I know. And it's like the disconnect that you're having is that I have actual friends in real life. And, but you live your, your whole identity plays out on the internet. Yeah. And the disconnect that we're having and the reason you feel so genuinely and righteously and confidently upset Yeah. is because your whole dynamic takes place with unreal people through screens. Yes. And I am living in the real world with real actual people. And this is how real people talk to each other. Yeah. Real friends feel comfortable speaking on each other's identities and stuff like that.
24:29A thousand percent. Because we're actual friends. Yes. And you're living a screen mediated life that the only thing that gives you power and connection is like policing and likes and upvotes and comments. Yes. And that's the disconnect we're not having. The disconnect we're having is not actually a moral one. No. It's actually like a, I don't even know how to say it, but it's actually like a, I live in the real world and you don't kind of thing. And that's not to say that you're stupid or anything. I think they're usually quite smart. I'm just like, we're living two different lives. And the reason I don't care about what you have to say is because I don't want to live like you.
25:03No. Do you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. The policing thing is great. Everyone's like, ACAB. And then they're like, you said Sherbert was gay seven years ago. Right. And it is a little gay. And it is a little gay. Why would it be those colors? Why would it be those colors? It could taste that way without being those colors. That's pretty obvious to me. We need to bring back the show The Real World, I think, and get people off from the internet on it. Did you ever watch it? I feel like I saw some of it. That's disgusting. The Real World? Yeah. They would go to different cities and all live in a house together?
25:31I remember the cities. Seven people picked to live in a house. There were strangers that are telling it like it is. Telling it like it is. I feel like I've seen viral. I've seen clips. Yeah, yeah, clips. But I never really sat down and watched it, I don't think. I was never a big TV guy. Bring it back. What? Bring it back. You don't like TV? I watched, there was like a couple things I watched, but I've never been a big TV guy. What do you do? I listen to music a lot. Yeah, you actually are a music freak. I listen to music a lot. And I really don't like, so much of I think watching TV, like really, like being good at keeping up with something is watching TV alone.
26:03Yeah. And I don't like hanging out alone that much. Oh, yeah, that's me. So I like to, I like, or if I am hanging out alone, I like to go to a coffee shop and like write or like work on something. No, not like that. You know what I mean? Like, I feel I get really bored. I listen to music. I donate to charity. It's kind of different for me. I'm just like listening to music and like seeing people. Honey, I'm watching TLC, the Learning Channel. I'm watching A Thousand Pound Sisters. Are you? Absolutely. They're the funniest. I just think it's like such a, what'd you say? I said, fuck yeah. It's one of my favorite shows.
26:33It's one of the best shows. I think people, you know, they're like a little, like 600 pound life is, what's the word? Exploit? Exploitative? Thank you so much. yeah i did go to a state school so i don't really know that kind of stuff um it's just like they're just the funniest people in the world and they're so like they're so joyful and you know and i just also think it's like a good middle of the country like let's get to know it's not just east coast west coast come on yeah they're funny um do they live in missouri no they live in kentucky kentucky kentucky same difference yeah no and they're there's they actually lost they both lost a ton wait they're crazy as hell tammy came out as pansexual and her family her whole family was like what the hell a pan like it was amazing that is really yeah absolutely that is really fun yeah and like but yeah they're they're awesome they make some of the most disgusting food you've ever seen like just genuinely trying though yeah one time they were like making she was making alfredo sauce but she was like i'm gonna put chocolate in it to do like a white chocolate to make it like a mole and people were like i don't think so i said good for her for trying and her whole family goes, this is the worst thing we've ever had.
27:41God forbid a woman in STEM experiment. She had an idea. She went with it. Like, what the hell? What's so wrong with that? Well, folks, I have some pretty exciting news. After I went on her show, me and Kylie Kelsey got to talk. Oh, it's Kylie. Okay. Me and Kylie Kelsey got to talking and we came up with something I think y 'all are going to like, and that's watching a dang football game together. Kylie and I are not just watching the Chiefs versus Colts game together on Sunday, November 23rd. We'll also be live chatting about it in a WhatsApp group chat. I'm really excited about this one actually I love her so much and you can join to see what we're saying with the chat from Whatsapp and Offball spots will be limited so stay tuned on the SoTrue social accounts for the sign up link and thank you Virginia in advance for posting those I watch a lot of TV I'm just like you know chill and watch TV not dating I listen to music actually yeah I listen to music I listen to is there anything you're big on right now any music you're like really big on at the moment well I'm loving Lily Allen's album obviously so good Audrey Hobart's album this year was like I listened to it nonstop.
28:37It made me feel like a teenager. Do you remember, I mentioned this to someone recently and they gave me kind of crazy eyes. Am I the only one who remembers in Pitch Perfect the puppets to the Lily Allen song? Oh. Fuck you. Fuck you very, very much. I don't remember the puppets. This is starting to become like a Monopoly guy's monocle thing. Yeah. Mandela effect where I'm like, am I the only one who remembers the puppets? They were puppeting to that song. They're called the Socapellas. yeah oh they were like competition but it was like a it was like an interstitial it was like yeah they just it was like a one cutaway gag chance you moved off the screen christ you're showing me a blank screen and i was like one job and he can't like pull up the picture maggie i'm so sorry that yeah oh good for them oh they're actual sock puppets too the way he totally tuned me out just trying to recover it's about to bounce back your microphone matches your shirt it's kind of nice you guys can't see it's pink and pink he's representing women today um because pink is girl boy sorry are you okay maggie why do you have a blue mic big news i had i actually i'm a strong she her and sometimes i feel bad about it really yeah why is that well i wish i could you know gender bend but i'm kind of like girl top vice girls inside of me you're megan trainer she follows me on tiktok so do not talk bad about my friend megan trainer megan trainer yeah what was her song all about that bass about that bass and then she said that was a hit what was the one that was like if there was like a line that was like if you're fat or something about like oh that you gotta focus sorry i do have adh j you for sure um she had some lyric that was like people were like going crazy about it they're like you're making fun of skinny people it's like for once yeah i don't care no i don't care at all i have never once cared.
30:32The thin people are always trying to get a like, wow, change skinny to fat here and see if you like it. It's like, no, I won't. And shut the fuck up. I'm told to eat a cheeseburger a lot. I'm like, that would be, if someone told me that, I would feel happy. Do you know what I would do if someone told me to eat a cheeseburger? What? I would. And I'd have a great day. You like smash or you like big? Oh, I like smash burgers. I don't like when a burger is like huge. Oh, like a Mondo burger from. Yeah, one of my big complaints actually is when they do sandwiches too much yes if i can't if i can't grab it like this i can't get the mouth around and take one bite with just my regular mouth yeah if i'm having to like unhinge my jaw like a fucking anaconda to get in there your sandwich is too big your sandwich is way too big it's not cool that you did that let's get it down yeah let's get it down and let's have a good sauce to veggie to meat ratio oh my gosh yeah if there's my mouth is watering oh my god i'm hungry i haven't had lunch we got waters i'm gonna hook it up no you know there's a poke place near here that i like Oh my god.
31:29Maybe I get poke after this. I had poke for the first time in Hawaii. Did you like it? I loved it. I love poke. I got into seafood last year. Lobster, crab. What's the shrimp? Thank you. What's the shrimp? Hold on. I'm coming. I'm coming up with it. Shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp. And then I had poke and it was amazing. I'm trying. But when people are like, do you want fish? I'm like, ooh, let me think about that. Yeah. Like a Branzino or something. Yeah. Oh, I like a Branzino though. I'll get there. You'll get there. I'll get there. I'm nervous. It's fun to order for the table. My dad loves fish and he's always like, come on.
32:03Fish is great. Try the fish. Fish is one of those, seafood in general is one of those things that like I can eat a filling amount and not feel bad afterwards. Yes. Which is nice. Yeah. Shrimp cocktail changed my life. Shrimp cocktail is everything. Dip. Come on. Come on with a dip. Shrimp cocktail. Dip. Come on. Maggie. Yeah. What's going on? You just started a new podcast. I did. Tell the people about it. It's called Literally Life Changing with Maggie Winters. And it's on Stapleview. It comes out every Wednesday. Please listen if you want. But if you don't want to, that's no problem at all. We got to get you on it sometime.
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32:37I would love to come on. But why are you saying don't listen if you don't want to? Don't you need people to? I want people to make their own choice and live their life. No, listen, please. Actually, if you listen and you're like, I don't love this, just play it and walk away. Yeah. Yeah, I need that right now. Yeah, do the same for us, by the way. Oh, yeah. Come on. How's it going? It's fun. Yeah. I was at first like obviously I talked to you I was like I don't know podcasting I don't know there's so many podcasts um do I do they need my voice but I'm like you know fuck it I'm gonna do it someone else's staple view is amazing producing it so it's like I just show up rock out with your cock out with my cock out um yeah I'm gonna have uh in following your footsteps have my dad on it I know your mom on it yeah my mom I said my dad's gonna be on my mom goes what the hell like one day girl she goes what the hell yeah and you go who taught you that she said that i would die she goes what the hell yeah that's so funny yeah um yeah the pot i'm gonna film some here so i'm in la all over the damn place what's been your favorite and least favorite part of since starting it since starting it yeah like what is the thing you've loved is there a thing you've been surprised about is there a thing you've been like that you've kind of hated that you didn't expect like tell me about the process of doing it because i think it's so it's it's interesting because when I started mine, when I started this one, it was kind of like, oh, we'll just see if it takes or not.
33:55And now it's become like – Is it doing okay? It's doing okay. Do people know about it? It's accidentally become like the most vital part of my creative life actually. Yeah, I'm seeing kind of it next to soap cutting videos every day. That's good for us. Yeah. Yeah, we like that. But what about – how has it been for you? What have you learned so far? The thing I – yeah, I think it's interesting to like – I was filming some in New York and to have to like go somewhere to do something is always hard. Yeah. And you're like, oh, I have to get up and I have to go. And then I get there and the guest is always a blast and I'm always laughing, laughing, laughing.
34:26The internet part of it is hard. Your team obviously is like, we want to get the clips going. We want people to love the clips. And then you, again, share a clip and the internet is always weird about everything. So that's like the harder part. But getting to like laugh with people, getting to laugh with people, write this down, guys. Getting to laugh with people is amazing. Put this in your notes, y 'all. Come on. Put this in your affirmations. Yeah, it's fun. It is fun. I'm excited to see where it goes. You know, I don't know. Yeah. But also what you were saying about showing up anywhere that you have to be is a nightmare.
34:55A nightmare. Yeah. Even if I, and then I get there, I'm like, this is awesome. Why was I upset? Almost every time. Yes. But here's what I'll say in our defense. Yeah. Those few times that you didn't want to go to something and you powered through and then you ended up being right and it sucks. Oh, that's, yeah. Those have a lot more sticking power than the more times that you go to something and it turns out to be awesome. Yes. It's a more visceral feeling of like. God damn it. Yes. I didn't trust myself. Yes. So there's a sticking power with that. Yeah. When, what's the last time you showed up to something and you were like, this sucked?
35:29Um, usually for me, it's when I. You're like, today? I'm like, what? No, usually for me, it's when I agree to go to a second or third bar. Oh, always. I never regret going to the first one. I almost always, the first one is like, good for you. You got out, you saw people, you said hello. It was really nice seeing everybody. You loved it. You felt energized by it and inspired. And it was fun to see your friends. when I agree to go to the second or third place, it's usually about seven minutes into that that I go, you should have fucking called it. Yeah, it should have been over. You should have just called it.
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36:25All the time on tour, not so much anymore, but we'd be like, go to a really fun bar, meet cool people, and they'd be like, come to this. Sometimes they'd be like, come to our apartment. And then we'd walk in the apartment and I'd go, these people are 22. I'm about to get, not that anything's happening, but it's like I'm about to be on a TV show. like yeah 35 year old woman is in a 22 year old woman's house why yeah it's just how it feels i'm like i need to go actually it's like that it's like that uh snapchat screenshot of that woman where it's like so there's a 56 year old woman here yes i just saw that that's me i'm like in the corner like it's just it's just not and especially like as i get older i'm like i need to just go to bed like it's not it doesn't feel good anymore yeah except if i do stay out if i stay out to like two or three it's like whatever if i stay out like till 6 a.m or something i'm like this is the craziest craziest night of my life and i'm not even doing drugs yeah i want to make that clear yeah audience but what's like i must have been having the time of my life you must have been it happens in new york a lot you stay out is crazy i know it's funny i wondered if living there i would be out a lot more yeah and i will say there there are more often nights in New York that I have been out and I look at the time and I go, oh my god, it's 3am.
37:42Now, I'm not one of these New York people that's like, oh my god, the sun's coming up. I'll catch it before then. But it is just easier to be out late on accident. Yeah, exactly. In a fun way. You're having a blast. Look at your phone. What the hell? I will say, I lived in LA for four years and I will say every time I thought that, I'd be like, oh my god, it must be like midnight. I check my phone, it's 7.30. yeah oh everyone in LA is like oh we must have to go to bed now and you're like we just got here we just ordered the appetizers yeah like no it's time it's really tough out there I gotta get up and hike and drink juice they do they do they love it I don't like that stuff so much I have tried like I did the hikes a few times and it's just like so funny I'm like I could do this and then I get to the top I'm like my friends are like wow like I'm like Jesus Christ I don't feel empowered by that then for one week I like I'm like I feel empowered for a week of like I did that yeah then i'm eating kfc nashville too they're good i would be lying if i said i wasn't feeling it right now oh i used to get the um when i was in high school they had like the mini slider sandwiches oh i don't know those why are they called like twister bites or something crazy i'd be like get me through the drive let's go with the twister bites yeah that's so and they had fries too oh they're wedges they had wedges fries i they their wedges their seasoned wedges were good yeah no they don't rest in peace fuck fuck we have a question for you oh i can't wait to hear it if you if someone okay if someone came to you right now some like rich person okay ethical ethical millionaire ethical okay ethical millionaire came to you and they were like we have we'll say three million dollars okay we have three million dollars you have to spend it's kind of a brewster's million situation you have to spend every cent of it on one creative project Oh.
39:29What would you make with it? Like, what would you spend? It doesn't have to be, like, it could be anything. But what would you spend$3 million on? So I can't, like, buy a house. This is like a. No, you have to spend it on a creative project. And what it can be is if you're like, oh, I have an idea for a movie that would probably only cost a million. Yeah. You can just pay everyone. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. What would be your thing? I would make a movie for sure. What would the movie be? Oh, my God. Are you going to give me$3 million today? He's like, let me think about it. Depends on how good this pitch is.
39:58Oh, my God. I wasn't prepared. I have a TV show idea, but I need to think of a good movie idea. Yeah. I have one because I moved in with my parents this year. Shout out. And last year, actually. And it was during the election. But it's weird because my dad is liberal. But it was like being 35, living back at home with my dad who talks about Trump every single day. I think it would be a fun movie. Yeah. Yeah. And just like our relationship. that i wonder if your dad is like my grandpa my grandpa is like a iowa lifelong railroad guy yeah you would never expect it he fucking hates trump oh yeah and he hates him to the point where we're like all right man like oh we hate him too but he brings it up so often it's like we're actually we hate him in a way where we're trying not to think about him yeah it'll be in the middle of dinner there's like too long of a pause and he'll be like at goddamn crook trump and it's like no we know and we agree and thank god you feel that way the exact same.
40:54My dad, today at breakfast, I'm sitting there, he's like, guess who was on 60 Minutes last night? I was like, who? He goes, Trump. So I didn't watch it. I'm like, okay, why are you telling me that? I was like, what was he talking about? He goes, I don't know. I didn't watch it. I'm like, what? He talks about it. And I actually called him out one time. I was like, you talk about Trump. He's like, so does your mom. I'm like, what? No, she doesn't. Your mom loves him though, right? She's obsessed with him. She's voted for him six times. Did you do the math? No, no. She has a pin on her bag right now that says he's an idiot.
41:24love doesn't say the word trump just says he's an idiot she's like i want people to point it out queen i know they want she wants him to go who and she goes trump trump who's an idiot donald trump the the liar in chief yeah no literally i know i love it though i love like we part of i think part of our national healing is gonna have to be re-embracing cornball yes like Democracy Now lives. We're going to have to bring them back into the fold and actually be proud of them. RBG tote. We're going to have to be proud of them again. Photo of me at 22 features female. Nasty woman. I had an I'm with her shirt that I wore every day that I could.
42:07I was in southern Missouri and I wanted people to know I'm not like these motherfuckers. Guess what? I'm with her. I'm unusual. I'm with her. I loved that shirt. Oh my God. Yeah. And I was with her. Yeah, I was in a lot of ways with her, you know, I was with her and I, and it's funny cause now I look back and I'm like, if I knew now what I know now, if I knew then, if I knew then now what I could have known then for now. Yeah. If I now knew then, yes, no, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have been with her so hard. But at the time I didn't know so much about like, I didn't know so much about like, um, like neo con yes war hockey like i didn't know so many things that i know now so i was just like oh my god she's a woman who likes gay people i'm with her and she's in politics yeah you know it's a beautiful time when i didn't know who jeffrey epstein was you know didn't know who jeffrey epstein and i did make a huge mistake the other day of downloading the um victim's book onto my kindle on the plane because i panicked and i didn't could have had my airpods and i said let me just download a book a nonfiction and then it's the most i mean it's obviously it's just most scary i'm on the plane going screaming my head off really it's really scary stuff it's obviously not funny you want me to bring this up on the it's just like the idea of you getting kind of bored and going like yeah i guess i'll download the epstein victims book it's like that's crazy i know and then now i feel kind of a guilt where i'm like i have to read it because she told her story.
43:42I have to read it. Every page, my eyes are bleeding. It's terrific. What would you do if you could make a project at any project right now? Well, I am making it, actually, with Trash Mountain, which is really nice. Wow. If someone came to me with a fresh$3 million and I couldn't invest it into Trash Mountain, and was like, what would you make? I have this idea for a script that I don't want to spoil, but I have this movie idea. It's sort of a... Seeking a Friend for the End of the World meets her five minutes in the future type movie. That's pretty grounded in our current reality, but just a little bit pushed forward.
44:22And it's a script I've been really... I haven't written it yet, but I've outlined the entire thing in my head. And I've talked to some friends about it. And I've gotten some really good feedback. And I would probably make that. I hope that somebody sends you a box of chocolate with$3 million. Warner Brothers message me, can we send chocolate? Like, no, I need money. No, I need money. You're an idiot. You're not an idiot. Sorry, you guys are amazing. No, you guys are awesome. Please. I'm kind of in a headspace lately of just being like, I just want to do, because I do this, and this is like my, the podcast is kind of like my job.
44:58You know what I mean? It's like, I love doing it. I get to chit chat with buddies. We get to laugh. We get to hang out with Nicole and Chance. And like, it's a really nice gig. Then I'm like, okay, so then when I'm making movies and stuff, I just really want to make like cool weird artsy shit yes yeah that's kind of where i'm at with it where i'm like i actually don't have any desire to be in like i don't want if i'm making it i'll go and be in like i'll be like a number seven like funny side character in one of in a big huge studio movie five for sure i would go and do something silly and something like that but for my projects i'm like i used to think i would write like big studio comedies for myself to start yeah i'm like actually i kind of think at least for the next couple of years if not maybe forever i want to make like sub five yes yeah uh like indie stuff freaky stuff yeah yeah like fun stuff that has like we need art we need art you know we need an indie film revival oh my god we do yeah we need it bad we there used to be like sundance and like all the the festivals used to like there used to be this awesome type of indie movie that came out all the time yeah that we like rarely see anymore like what that i'm like missing yeah like even something like um you think about like a little miss sunshine oh my god where it's like something like that where it's like where are those kind of movies really anymore let us make them well we should make them we're not scared to we should we're not scared to a lot of people are saying i'm looking down the barrel we're not scared to make any movies me and maggie yeah we're not scared to work crazy days for uh weird amounts of money weird amounts of money we need a chef on site because we don't want to be eating the fried stuff we need a chef on site because if we don't have one, we will forget about the concept of vegetables.
46:36I will be eating Taco Bell in a way that is not right. I wish I could make everyone listening to this understand the kind of self-satisfaction I feel when I order a side of fruit. Oh, my God. At breakfast this morning, he was like, do you want garlicky fried home fries or do you want a side of fruit? And I was like, that's easy. I'll have the side of fruit. And I felt so crazy. he wrote that down he said good for him he was like he starts cheering up he's like awesome man chefs are gonna love that hey good shit dude yes he like kind of gives me a little noogie yeah yes he's like i'm really proud of you yes yes i oh my god why did he just give me the finger that'd be crazy if he did chance is really antagonistic with the guests um if i i love My dad was like so, he's just like beyond.
47:30Like, can't even like put a little butter in something. Really? He's so, he's like, today he's making chickpea orzo stew. And I had to go, okay, yeah. Yeah. I'd love to hear that. Sounds cool for you and mom. Yeah. I'll be picking up KFC on the way home. If I walked into my house with KFC, I think my dad would call the cops. I'm serious. Really? Yeah. Oh, no. He's like. He's a health guy. He never, we never like, we got local fast food, but we never got like chain fast food growing up yeah and then when i was like on my own i was like you're like i need to see what this is all about when i discovered taco bell i said my life is over you know i don't have the thing with taco bell that a lot of people have i know taco bell feels like people have a real affinity yeah they're like locked in on it oh yeah i think it's cool i enjoy it sometimes are you pissed at me for locking in on taco bell no not all i just wish i felt you know what taco bell is for me like when it when you're like talking with a group of friends like two in the morning after a night out and we're like what should we order yeah for me i'm always like mcdonald's is more the vibe okay but everyone always feels like it's what talk about and i will say taco bell is the best for just like throwing 75 things in the car yes and then spreading it on a table with like 10 of your friends and being like kind of it doesn't matter who got what just grab something you know what i mean yeah it's like we just get like 20 soft shell tacos here come on guys you know kind of that yeah that's true i have a very specific order though i was about to say what's your tea bell order i get the grilled cheese burrito with chicken the side of avocado ranch oh other avocado ranch is good oh my god yeah and when they forget it i'm i'm spiraling you can't believe the way i've reacted when i when i do order mcdonald's yeah if it's you know it's like later i need like a really quick meal and they forget my hot mustard oh i could put my head through a window i'm like how i literally out loud in my apartment alone have said to myself like how hard is it how hard is it don't forget the sauce put the sauce in the bag yes yeah i get i'm like god damn i get so enraged you don't think i don't want sauce what am i eating this dry i'm gonna eat dry french fries like a fucking like a hamster yeah like a hamster ew oh i do that i get angry yeah i get really pissed that's so not right no yeah i i'm trying to eat less of it though of course fast food yeah because on the road it's so easy you know what like late night like if i have like two glasses of wine and then i'm like a little taco bell but it's like and then i'm going to sleep heartburn to hell acid reflux waking up like four in the morning with like oh my god am i gonna it's not worth it anymore am i gonna die yeah i'm gonna die yeah not for me yeah i i stopped eating i pretty much don't eat fast food on the road anymore for the most part sometimes obviously good for him good for him but the reason is because i i started to like part of my travel packing started to be bringing tums oh i know yeah hey probably a different solution to this yes then like having to travel with tom heard was like stop having ipsy nashville hot nuggets at 11 p.m yes maggie winters what's so true to you oh my god well i was gonna say i earlier we kind of already said it was a so what's so true to me is leave me alone
50:34like unless you want unless it's with kindness but like if you just leave me alone with the other stuff yeah leave us all like just leave everyone alone so can you give me an instance recently of when you haven't been left alone that someone should have left you alone and not on the internet but i'm talking like in real life in real life well i think the adhd girl was kind of like leave me alone like anything you don't need to diagnose me no or like i had an uber driver who was like you he was just i don't know like you have to be taking ashwagandha and i was like hello he was like he's like let me write it down for you i was like no i know the word ashwagandha like you don't need easy you have to be taking it leave me alone i don't have to be taking anything drive me to my place leave me alone with maggie winters the maggie winters leave me alone with maggie winters leave me alone that would be my negative podcast after dark leave me isn't that great ashwagandha and then he like wrote down some other thing i said i don't need this yeah but of course no i didn't say that i was going thank you yes of course yeah please write it down throw it away yeah he like looked back at his mirror he was like oh god she needs ashwagandha what does it do ashwagandha and he told me every single thing i i locked it all out i don't even know what it does health and happiness yeah it is an herb stress maybe that is commonly promoted for stress and anxiety reduction uh leave me alone chance i'm kind of like maybe i need to take ashwagandha on accident i'm like no leave maggie alone but maybe hit me up i might need to hear the pitch as it turns out like my mom is like constantly like she she whenever someone else gets a brand deal she comes to the room she's like connor just did a heinz commercial i'm going leave me i what do you want she's like did you even call heinz and ask if they wanted you oh yeah she used to tell me my brother she's like you should email steven colbert did you oh well what's his email steven at steven colbert.net oh my god one crazy thing i can't remember if this has come up on the podcast before or not but one crazy thing is like famous people's emails are what you think they are.
52:32Reese Witherspoon at gmail.com. It's literally like Reese.Witherspoon at yahoo.com. Like they literally are like famous people's emails. I'm about to get a season assist. Almost every time I see a famous person's email, I'm like, really? It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, do you change your email if you like reach a point of fame? Yeah, I've definitely noticed. I've noticed that there's a certain level of famous where, first of all, they're not even on the threads. When you get to a certain level of famous, it's like you're never emailing with them directly. Yeah. And then when a very famous person has emailed with me directly, then their email becomes like, it's like, it's like whistle jump one, two.
53:08It's like, it's smart. Yeah. It's like not even a name. It's nothing you can think of. Do you think Taylor Swift like texts? For sure. For sure. Yeah. I just think about that. I'm like, you know, people are like, like I would be, did she have the time? I don't save anyone's. I had a famous person recently give me their phone number and they, when they texted me, they were like, they're like, what's your phone number? I'm going to text you. And I gave them my phone number and they texted me like a version of their name. I don't want to put this person on blast, so I'm not going to say, but they texted me a version of their name that was like only we would know that it was them.
53:39Like if someone else had seen it on accident. And I, in that moment I was like, oh no, I have every famous person's number saved in my phone as like first and last name. Yes. So I'm like, that would be really bad. Remember when I, when you, I remember when you first like were fame, fame and fortune. I was like, can you put me in a group text with me? you Phoebe Bridgers and Paula Pell and you were like yeah that would be awesome to do did I do it no but you were like wouldn't that be funny I'm so sorry no I mean obviously if you did that they would be like what's wrong with you but it was like the idea of being in like you adding like me to a group talks with these people hey guys just saying what's up also the idea of the four of us yeah the idea of the three of us or the four of us talking about sort of anything is so funny yeah that'd be fun that is really fun I should do that today yeah I would just put that just any famous person maybe after that phoebe and paula if you're watching um let me know if it's okay that i put you in a group text with maggie they watch they're watching this episode they don't know no what if they were both what if they were both listening to this right now and they were like oh my god they call me start the group text start the group text i would cry i would cry joy you know who will be listening to this episode who waxahatchie oh obsessed she listens to every episode she'll text me she'll text me like two hours after an episode has come out and been like loving this one.
54:55Wait, that's so sweet. She's up on it, dude. That's amazing. She's put on a new record. What is it called? The project is called Snow Caps. Okay. It's her and her sister, Allison, who I love. You introduced me to them in New York. Yes, at Kevin's, was it the baby's show that we went to? Yeah, I was shaking. Yeah, Katie and Allison and Jake, or MJ Linderman and Brad Cook both played on it. Oh, I can't wait to listen. It's really good. Yeah. Snow Caps, it's out now. Go check out Snow Caps right away. And then my podcast after. And then so it's in order. It's watch and listen to this whole thing.
55:29Subscribe to my sub stack. Check out the bonus content with Maggie on sub stack. Then you can go listen to the full snow caps album. And then if you have time, you can listen to Maggie's podcast. Thank you so much. Which I haven't gotten to be on yet. But when I do, it'll be really good. It'll be good. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, we're going to do like a kind of a after dark one with you. We're going to do a leave me alone. It's going to be it's going to be leave me alone with Cale Heron and Maggie Winters. Perfect. Yeah, I can't wait for that. You know that I have a segment for you. Of course, the questions.
55:58Which I did pretty well on the live one. I was on this live, so don't think I don't know. In Indianapolis. Yeah. Maggie, I'm going to read you 15 statements. Yeah. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false. I'm going to set up for this. And if you get 10 or more correct, Maggie, we are going to give you 50 US dollars. Don't believe it. Okay. You ready? Time Magazine was first published in 1899. True. False, 1923. The Cincinnati Bengals have won two Super Bowls. False. False. They've won zero. The human heart beats around 100 ,000 times a day. False. True.
56:32Okay. Lyft is older than Uber. True. False. The original Goose Island brewery location was in St. Louis, Missouri. False. False. The Chicago. The corporate headquarters for Taco Bell is in Irvine, California. True. True. It takes two years for a single pineapple to fully grow. True. True. Beaver's mate for life. False. True. There are five Austin Powers movies. False. False. Three. Spirit Airlines was originally called Charter One Airlines. False. True. The mascot for Illinois State University is Reggie Redbird. True. True. That's where I went to school. Maggie Winters was an American sitcom starring Beverly D 'Angelo.
57:04False. False. Faith Ford. Napoleon Bonaparte was actually average height for his time period. True. True. Squirrels can't burp. True. True. Lin-Manuel Miranda has six pet birds. False. False. How'd she do? Ten. Wah! and can I just say pace was incredible a pace queen people take their time a lot in a way that sometimes borders on insanity there's two things on this show that I find funny about our guests and I love all of our guests equally there's two things taking so much time in the true or false doesn't make me mad just makes me laugh because we set it up as being quick and then you I actually don't know what to do at this point about I don't know if we'll ever figure out how to fix this one people refuse to plan a so true I would say 95 % of guests who come on this show just simply we ask only one thing of our guests and it's that they lightly think of a so true for them refuse so when it comes to it they're just like I don't know I can't tell you the number of times we've come to it and had to cut for five minutes take a bathroom break let them think on it and the audience never sees this come back and then go so what was your so true and then the thing they've come up with is like curtains should be brighter.
58:20You know, it's like they've just like looked around the room and it's like, okay. Oh my God. Crazy. Yeah, that's nuts. It's like, who cares? But it really does make me laugh because I'm like, it is the only thing we ask for. It's the name of the podcast. It's the name of the whole podcast. Maybe they don't know. We had some more segment ideas when we started this podcast. I mean, we still do voicemail sometimes. It's harder when we're traveling like this. Yeah. I'm trying to think of other... At one point, I think we were going to like... One of the failed segments for this show was that we were going to read guests headlines and show pictures with headlines and be like, do you think this is a real headline or a fake headline?
58:57Oh, that's fun. We were going to bring the news into it. That's work, though, for Chance. Well, Chance is addicted to not working, so we can't do involved things like this. Oh, man. Oh, brother. Oh, brother. He works really hard. But no, we didn't end up doing that one. I mean, yeah. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. I'm thinking I'm going to add and remove segments. I really view this show as a living organism. In two years, it might look totally different. Who knows? It's art, people. Podcasting is art. Yeah. Oh, my God. Write that down. Let's make merch. So true merch. Podcasting is art.
59:29Write it down. Somebody write it down. So true. With a So True logo. Podcasting is art. So true logo underneath it. Oh, my God. Send me one. Write that down. Send me one. I did the other day get really addicted to the idea of doing a So True museum exhibit at some point. Oh, my God. I'm not talking like, oh, the chair that we filmed the show in. I'm talking like a weird, like nothing to do with the show. So I went to the Yoko Ono exhibit at the Contemporary. Oh, how's that? It was fine. The Contemporary did a great job on it. I'm like here or there on Yoko. But some of the stuff was really cool.
59:59And one of the things she did was that she, in like maybe the 70s, she did like a big billing of like, oh, I'm going to have a solo show at this museum. And then there wasn't one. And so then the show itself was actually interviewing people who showed up to see it and found out that it was the show. So the show was the interviews. Okay, she's tricking people out a lot. And they were interviewing and people were like, yeah, there's no fucking show, so we're pissed. And they were like, but doesn't that seem interesting? And they were like, no. No. And the interviews were fabulous. Oh, my God. You should do It's So True exhibit.
1:00:31And then people walk in and it's like, the Joe Rogan experience. Whoa, and it's Joe sitting in a cage. The real Joe. like you he's sitting in the you box yes and everyone's like what and they get to tap on the glass yeah but he's got like weights in water and stuff in there yeah he's happy he's got a cold plunge he's happy yeah he's good Maggie it was such a delight to have you this was a dream in Chicago too where we met well no that's not true we met in Missouri for the first time oh I guess we did I forgot about that and then we became friends in Chicago where Caleb used to gchat me do you like girls yet and i well i didn't know we would use all of our friends had like office jobs at that time and so google chat was how we all talked to each other at our respective office jobs and i had so many different google chat friendships but yours and mine was definitely just me checking in on gay i would just in the middle of work day be like what's up with you and girls yet and you'd be like i'm not gay at all and i'd be like we'll see sorry you took a pandemic to figure it out i've dragged a lot and still women don't want to date So I don't know what's going on.
1:01:34Yeah. And I've dragged a lot of high girls into lesbian. I haven't yet converted a gay person to straight. And someday I'd like to try. Yeah. Just to see. Yeah. But. I could. Do you want to work on you? On me? Yeah. It would. The thing. The way I know I'm not straight. Yeah. Is that my life would be so immeasurably easier. Yes. Like every woman I meet. I have a deep soul level connection with. And most men I meet. If I could get away with it. I would kill on the spot. Yeah. remember when my friend tucker we first started hanging out and my friend tucker told our friend he was like i think maggie doesn't know that that guy's gay like she thought i had a crush on you and didn't know that you were gay she keeps bringing him around like something yeah literally that is so funny i know shout out um i love you so much thanks for being here please tell people where they can find you and at saggy splinters unfortunately saggy with an ie uh literally life-changing the podcast everywhere you can find podcasts youtube of course um and you can find me in chicago kind of hanging around hanging around yeah love you love you dude bye that was a hate gum podcast fall never arrives all at once first the air then the light and slowly the things you love begin to find each other.
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