In short
Mary Beth Barone discusses dating, love, jealousy, body image, and social media anxiety, including her evolving stance on open relationships vs monogamy, plus her views on weddings and public “thinness” culture. She also addresses backlash from past podcast clips about gun control and her decision to stop engaging with TikTok personally.
Guests
Mary Beth Barone (comedian/performer; hosts her own podcast; stand-up Netflix special on March 19; appeared at the Golden Globes; known for activism/comedy and for prior viral controversies).
Key claims
She practices morning “delusions” like “best things are yet to come” and “I am a loving person in a world that loves me back,” but says she struggles to feel joy consistently. She’s annoyed by strangers speculating about Ozempic/GLP-1 use. She argues people should keep body commentary private (group chats/close friends) and not publicly. She’s experimenting with a “suffocating” love model: deep commitment with no touching others, even if tempted later. She believes “it girls” shouldn’t post weddings publicly and should consider phone-free ceremonies.
Notable examples
Egg Shop in Williamsburg closing; her “Madonna and whore” framing for standup/personal life; TikTok absence affecting sleep; right-wing outlets spinning her “melt all guns” satire; “He Knows Where Home Is” as a past relationship chapter.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONavigating Perceptions and Intent
1:21 to 3:15
Discussing the challenges of presuming positive intent in social interactions.
“But I do think that I'm starting behind the eight ball, as they say with people.”
Meditation and Future Joy
3:15 to 4:34
Exploring the concept that the best experiences are still to come.
“I just, I think I have a lot of gratitude.”
Gratitude and Self-Perception
4:34 to 5:00
Examining the role of gratitude and the struggle with personal joy.
“You're getting a million DMs a day from twinks.”
Relationships and Social Media Dynamics
5:00 to 6:30
Comparing the types of DMs received and their implications.
“It's just 17 million lesbians asking where I got my sweater.”
Standup Comedy Journey
6:30 to 8:00
Discussing the preparation for an upcoming Netflix special and challenges faced.
“and that's what I'm trying to do with both my standup and my personal life.”
Online Presence and Public Perception
8:00 to 9:10
Conversations about the impact of social media on mental health and identity.
“One is you and I talking about guns and I said that we should melt them all and there'd never be another shooting.”
Body Image and Public Discourse
9:10 to 12:00
Addressing the discomfort surrounding body comments and societal standards.
“And it's a tough thing you're going through.”
Navigating Conversations on Body Image
12:00 to 14:00
The importance of being mindful of comments about others' bodies.
“I'm in private being like, she's gotten busted.”
Navigating Social Media and Relationships
14:00 to 15:00
Explore the complexities of sharing personal lives on social media.
“And also, I've put too many, like, I used to at least be able to talk about my love life on close friends.”
Dating Expectations and Meet Cutes
15:00 to 17:30
Discuss the expectations around dating and the concept of 'meet cutes'.
“And they're seeing pictures of my dog days before I post the same pictures of my dog on me.”
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The Challenges of Open Relationships
17:30 to 20:00
Examine the nuances of open relationships and the expectations involved.
“and I'm going to look back on those bits that I did, be it one-sided or not, and I'm laughing.”
Exploring Radical Love Concepts
20:00 to 21:40
Contemplate the idea of unwavering commitment in relationships.
“This is something I'm experimenting with and as we know everything I say on this podcast is subject to pretty immediate disavowal.”
The Love for Gay Men and Community
23:40 to 28:01
Discuss the appreciation for gay men within the LGBTQ+ community and the nuances of relationships.
“And I feel that you have a deeper love because you don't have to date them.”
Reflections on Responsibility in Podcasting
28:01 to 30:19
The hosts discuss the role of podcasters in today's society and the importance of authentic conversations.
“Don't bite the hand that holds the mirror, sugar.”
Reflections on Responsibility in Podcasting
30:23 to 31:42
The hosts discuss the role of podcasters in today's society and the importance of authentic conversations.
“I did a really fun event in SF at the Super Bowl with my girl, Kylie Kelsey.”
Reflections on Responsibility in Podcasting
31:46 to 31:58
The hosts discuss the role of podcasters in today's society and the importance of authentic conversations.
“Ollipop is sold online at drinkollipop.com and Amazon and available in almost 50 ,000 retailers nationwide, including Costco, Walmart, Target, Publix, Whole Foods, Kroger, and HEB.”
Reflections on Responsibility in Podcasting
32:56 to 34:06
The hosts discuss the role of podcasters in today's society and the importance of authentic conversations.
“In a world where there's hundreds, if not thousands of options when you're looking for an exciting new snack to try, TrueFru is making that choice easier than ever.”
Reflections on Responsibility in Podcasting
34:09 to 35:00
The hosts discuss the role of podcasters in today's society and the importance of authentic conversations.
“Booking.com offers a wide array of hotels and vacation rentals across the U.S.”
Discussions on Weddings and Social Media
35:00 to 41:40
The hosts delve into the topic of weddings, social media, and the expectations placed on 'it girls'.
“I actually have heard myself more saying things that I'm like, why did I have to say that?”
Coping with Public Perception
41:40 to 42:04
Mary Beth shares her thoughts on public perception and the pressure of being an influencer.
“Because I love how it works, and I have gratitude for that too.”
Navigating Body Image and Self-Acceptance
42:04 to 43:36
A discussion on body image struggles and acceptance as one ages.
“Or is it more manageable than I would think?”
The Pressure of Awards Shows
43:36 to 45:24
Mary Beth shares experiences and observations from the Golden Globes.
“even say from the side I have a little bit of a stomach is like it is time to root back.”
The Role of Publicists in Celebrity Culture
45:24 to 46:42
A humorous yet critical look at the impact of publicists on celebrity interactions.
“And so but it was one of those things, too, where I was like, when are they going to turn on me?”
Boundaries and Respect in Media
46:42 to 48:59
Discussion on the need for boundaries in publicist-client interactions.
“And it had a sign that says publicist lounge.”
The Impact of Public Scrutiny
48:59 to 51:45
Exploring the effects of public scrutiny and online perception on individuals.
“I think they can handle the repercussions of slipping up on a word.”
Practicing Gratitude in Modern Times
51:45 to 54:17
The importance of gratitude and mental clarity in a chaotic world.
“And being earnest is another thing people struggle with with me is they can't tell when I'm being earnest.”
Transitioning from Patreon to Substack
54:17 to 56:00
Mary Beth discusses her shift from Patreon to Substack and its implications.
“Um, I would love to, I would love to have my brain sort of stimulated by some more, um, substantial thoughts, like what you're describing.”
Valuing Audience Engagement
56:00 to 56:35
Learn about the importance of audience respect and engagement in creative work.
“People's money and attention is very, very, very important to me.”
Community Support and Kindness
56:35 to 57:51
Hear how a supportive community impacts creators and their work.
“But yeah, it was so nice to like have a, I just felt so endeared to my little community on Substack that was so like kind to me.”
Navigating Personal Happiness
57:51 to 59:05
Explore the complexities of personal happiness and relationships in life.
“They tip, they like are polite and courteous and they follow the rules and are like, they're conscientious.”
Accepting Life's Incompleteness
59:05 to 1:01:24
Discover the acceptance of life's imperfections and missing pieces.
“I think one thing that was hard about the Globes for me was like, I went home and I was by myself.”
Playing True or False
1:01:24 to 1:03:03
Enjoy a fun segment where Mary Beth Barone answers trivia questions.
“I'd be in my like personal life, but I, and people are always like, we have all these great friends and blah, blah, blah.”
Transcript
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1:21Wave. But I do think that I'm starting behind the eight ball, as they say with people. I'm constantly winning people over I'm not starting with people are not coming into interactions with me presuming positive intent they're presuming negative intent you mean to tell me that you genuinely identify as an underdog unfortunately I would say in this current moment do you ever get worried? you're like well that's the last funny thing I'm going to say no I'm worried about not being funny on this I get so sad because I know that the funniest things I'll ever say haven't even happened yet
2:01that's really powerful yeah yeah do you know what actually one of my like meditations for this year one of my meditations for this year is the best things are yet to come and what i mean by that and and sit with every single morning there are a couple things i sit with every morning one of them is when i am 90 years old which i will be looking back on my life thus far but when i'm 90 there's so much left to do totally the things that I will be the happiest about and most proud of have literally not even occurred yet in this moment wow they're all ahead of me they're in my they're in tomorrow next week next month it really puts things into perspective well it doesn't even matter if it's true by the way right you just have to tell yourself that in order to live living a happy life is about the lies that you tell yourself and it's a beautiful and important it's about the delusion 100 and I'm happy to be delusional I also tell myself every morning that I am a loving person in a world that loves me back.
2:55And that one's beautiful. I believe that. That one's sweet. For you. I don't believe it for me. Which part? You're not loving or the world doesn't love you back? What do you mean? Why would you say that? You have a beautiful, charmed life. For now. Are you practicing enough gratitude, Mary Beth? I practice gratitude. I could definitely practice it more. And thank you for calling me in on that. I'm calling you out. It feels like in. It felt like in in that moment. It's in for sure. I just, I think I have a lot of gratitude. I just wish that like, I wish I felt joy more. I'm working on it in therapy.
3:27Yeah? Yeah. What is, how is that going? Like what is going to be the solution? We just started last week. We just started talking about it. That's good. It's something I've been aware of for a long time though. Yeah. Well, so what did you say when you brought it up to your, like, I'm not joyful enough. Well, I think it was more like when good things happen, are you able to really like internalize that? And I was like, well, no. Yeah. Is that something people are doing? Yeah. Wait, hold on. Were people internalizing joy the whole time? because that's not something I have been practicing. Certainly not.
3:54No, but gratitude, yes. And I think it was really important for last year to end for me so that I could start this new chapter of 2026. And then I found out today that Egg Shop in Williamsburg is closing on Sunday. And I'm thinking like, what else? You know, like what else could go wrong? Egg Shop, it's an establishment in Williamsburg. Delicious little breakfast spot that I go. I used to go with Pinky all the time, my dog. And now it's closing forever. And I don't know why. did you, well, Eggshot, please reach out and let us know what occurred. A twink DM'd me today and told me. A twink DM'd you.
4:27I can't imagine how much that happens to you. It's relentless, but I wouldn't have it any other way. That's something I have gratitude for. Do you know what's so funny? You're getting a million DMs a day from twinks. I'm getting a million DMs a day from straight guys and lesbians. What are we saying? We need to. We have to figure this out. Yeah, well, the lesbians are all barking at me and hitting on me. I mean, the way that lesbians objectify me is actually like, it's approaching problematic, but I find it so beautiful that I'm not willing to report. And yeah, it's getting really, really dangerous.
4:57I do feel that someday I'll be killed by a lesbian who wanted me so bad that they had to like take me off the market. If they can't have you, no one can. It will be like that. It's the vibe that I'm getting. I have, there are lesbians, every time I post a cute picture of myself trying to like garner interest from gay men that's like outside of the realm of Grindr, you know, sometimes I want to be, I want to be lusted after on Instagram. Of course. Every time. It's just 17 million lesbians asking where I got my sweater. Mine. And just to, here's what I think. I think we could, together we could change the world.
5:25That's what I'm saying. Because my DMs, as I mentioned, twinks and bisexual girls. Yeah. So we've covered, we've covered the entire spectrum. Yeah. And once we're ready to activate, mobilize, I think they'll be ready. But I hear you. It's like my thirst traps when I post them. I'm not, it's like gay guys saying mother, love, by the way. Totally, you mother them, yeah. And I want that. Yeah. but it's no straight guys saying mother. Well, you don't want the straight guys to say mother. Although that is what they want. Most straight guys. I know. I know they want it to be mothered, but you have to figure out how to make, you have to figure out how to position yourself as mother without them knowing.
6:00Yeah. It has to be sort of an inception situation. Yeah. You have to be both a mother and wife. You have to be both Madonna and whore and whore. And I'm ready. Put me in coach. Are you? I think so. So what we're working on this year is finding a new breakfast spot, but experiencing joy and being both Madonna and horror. Yeah. And I'm open to being a Madonna and horror for a woman. I'm, I'm sort of, I'm sort of down for whatever. I think if you were Madonna and horror for a woman, it would be incredibly progressive and turn everything sort of on its head. Well, and that's what I'm trying to do with both my standup and my personal life.
6:33Yeah. How is that going? And how is that showing up for you? Standup is good. I'm practicing. I'm practicing. I love saying I'm practicing. I'm practicing standup right now. Yeah. Um, and it is a religious practice in a lot of ways, but I'm doing my Netflix special on March 19th. So I'm trying to get, get all my reps in and tread the boards as they say. Yeah. And we're always saying that. Just so I feel really prepared and you know, I'm sort of, I feel like preparation is, it pays off. Yeah. And I just thought of that. Yeah. That's really beautiful. And you just came up with that on the spot even.
7:01Yeah. Do you remember the last time you came on the show? We, we sort of continue to get in trouble for talking about pit bulls. You and I'll bring it up again. I don't care. I don't care. Fuck them. I don't, I would say. Oh, we got in trouble for a lot on that. I don't know if you saw that the pro gun Instagram people, TikTok, Twitter, found that we said that if you melted every gun, you would never have another shooting. And they're like, you can build a gun. Yeah. And I was like, okay. Some of this stuff gets sent to me. I deleted TikTok a long time ago, and I am not participating at all anymore.
7:30Oh, I actually didn't know that. I'm not participating at all anymore. I'm out. I'm off. We clip this. Put it out. Dear media, clip this. So you're not posting, like, even for the pod? No. I, Caleb, am off. Okay. Caleb, the internet guy presence is still there and managed by Virginia. Thank you, sweetie. I love you. So the videos go out, but I'm not reading it, watching it. I can't be involved. But I have heard tell that we have once again, there's two clips that right wing outlets love to like spin up with me. One is you and I talking about guns and I said that we should melt them all and there'd never be another shooting.
8:05They hate that. They think I'm an idiot, which is fine. They said, I can't believe these two can vote. Yeah. And they're revolting. And I think that those people, like there are legitimately so many people in right wing online circles. There will be a change in the tides eventually where it's not a right wing despot in power. And it'll be someone like us. And they're in big trouble. They're in huge trouble. And then Nori Reed and I, there's a clip that goes like right wing viral every week of us. You can't imagine two comedians talking more facetiously. Right. We're talking. Oh, satire? It's over their heads.
8:40We're talking so jokingly about being happy that our dads died because they were white men. I think at one point we literally say every time a straight white man dies, a trans person gets their wings. Like we're talking so, and right wing people foaming at the mouth like, these fat blah. Like they're so mad. So one thing I wanted to bring up since you just mentioned that you are still posting clips of the podcast on TikTok, but you personally are not on there. I've been trying to, I've been explaining to my friends why I'm having trouble sleeping lately. And it's because, so I don't know if you've ever felt this.
9:08You felt my absence on TikTok. talk i have felt it and it's keeping me up at night yeah you're not i'm tossing and turning yeah i feel like you know how the ai singularity thing or maybe it's not ai but just singularity in general is like when we've uploaded like our consciousness to the cloud and we don't have use for like physical form anymore yeah i feel like as a as a person that's on the internet and trying to like be a public figure or whatever i feel like that's sort of happening already where like part of my consciousness is existing all the time on the internet i'm never sleeping on the internet because like your your your content is constantly being interacted with commented on it's like you're living a whole life on there yeah and it's like it keeps me awake now and so i feel like we're sort of like inching towards that and it's really scaring me yeah and i don't i want my physical form like as much as i abuse it and i i hate what i look like i want it still do you hate what you look like sometimes most of the time oh wow yeah i find that very surprising you're so beautiful i'm surprising you a lot today you are wait till i start hitting on you it's just i'm looking forward it's really tough when beautiful people hate the way they look thank you for saying that it really brings my audacity to light you know what i mean because because i am beautiful but i'm also fat in a society that hates fat people and so the fact that i genuinely go through the day being like god i'm hot and then to hear that someone who gets to be so thin it can dislike their appearances well god mary beth that just makes me sick well and that's why i wanted to come on the podcast to talk about just talk about thinness and how it is actually really hard.
10:32Yeah. And it's a tough thing you're going through. Yeah. It's really hard. Yeah. I can understand that totally. I mean, the number of people I've lost like a little bit of weight recently, not trying just sort of something that's happening and people are really sounding off about it. I, I, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that I noticed. Okay.
10:53Because I'm perceptive and I'm always, I'm clocking people's tea everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. My tea's been clocked. Yeah. You can't, you can't pull some shit like that and think that I'm not going to notice. You think I'm not going to notice a change in appearance? I'm going to notice. I'm noticing. But I'm not going to comment on it unless it is brought up in a public forum. Yeah. Like on a podcast. And here we are. So are people asking about if you're on GLP one? Not asking.
11:17Telling me. People, my DNA, I would say every time I post a picture of myself lately, it is, and I really want this to stop. This is like beyond inappropriate and not something I enjoy. uh just many many many people being like really disappointed that you're on ozempic i am not on ozempic i don't believe in that stuff unless you need it for a medical reason i'm not interested in it i am just like yeah i'm it's yeah i'm really really annoyed by uh people's we still i just feel like we have this conversation so often like a million different ways about how we shouldn't comment on this stuff yeah and people just feel so emboldened to like talk about your body in a way that i'm like i don't understand it it just yeah there's a disconnect between people who find it like to be one of the worst things you could possibly do to someone is to bring up their parents and then people who just feel like it's oh it's open season to just sort of talk about it yeah i mean i i don't yeah i it's hard because there are of course people whose bodies i would love to comment on of course there's that's an that's instinctual that's innate animal I'm commenting on people's bodies.
12:21Of course, but not publicly. Not publicly, not to them. Hello. Save it for the group chat. I'm in private being like, she's gotten busted. Like, hello. People need to utilize group chats. If you're about to post something. Hello. Look into your camera and say this, because I know you're about to give a word. If you're about to post something, if you're about to start a discourse, please send it to your group chat. We don't need it. We actually don't need to hear it. We definitely don't need to see it. the comfortability people have with putting their face as the, as the, what are you doing? Say it.
12:54What are you doing? Say it. At least send it to the group chat first and see if you got it out of your system. Let's just see what the response is. Yeah. See if you feel better. Maybe you get four laugh reacts and you go, that's a good day. Sometimes you know what you can do? And yes, four laugh reactions is incredible. Yeah. Especially for a normal person. Especially if it's a five person group chat. Please. Yeah. And I just think you can even record, you can go so, so far as to record the video, type out the type out the Instagram story yeah you don't have to post it yeah let's just let's just pull back a little bit I can't tell you the number of times that I type out a Instagram create mode which is my canvas and Instagram create mode is my canvas it's where I feel most special and most locked in Instagram create mode is actually a place where I can play and it's a place where I show up fully as myself you know William Shakespeare's quill pen yes it's like that That's my Instagram create mode.
13:44But the number of times I do an Instagram create mode, like screed, and I go, I'm going to post this on main. And then as I'm typing, I go, it's close friends. And then as I'm typing, I go, I'm going to send this to seven people specifically. Because close friends is an area where I actually can't even play that much anymore. No, because you can't trust anyone. You can't trust anyone. And also, I've put too many, like, I used to at least be able to talk about my love life on close friends. I can't do that because I have lovers on there now. Yeah. My lovers are on close friends. And that's exactly where they should be.
14:13That's where they should be, but you think I can talk about, I want to talk about what's going on with my roster right now. I can't do that. I've got lovers on there. No, and I think what you just described, the idea of thinking I'm going to post this publicly, then to close friends, then you save it for the group chat, good mental health indicator. Yes. And good judgment. Wellness. It's wellness. Wellness. And I think that I'm happier bringing this to the podcast because I think more people need to understand the life cycle of a thought, it can be just that. Yeah. And also think about your lovers.
14:39Imagine that every lover you have or whatever want to have is reading the things you're posting. I can't. I'm just amplifying. I can't. There's nothing to add to that. I just amplify. I think we should be using close friends to communicate subliminally with the people that we have crushes on. Currently, sort of famously, I don't have a crush on anyone. So my close friends is truly just my closest friends and my family. Yeah, that's beautiful. And they're seeing pictures of my dog days before I post the same pictures of my dog on me. Yes, which is the privilege of being close to you. Exactly. I messaged a guy on Grindr the other night.
15:13he like tapped me give a little interest alert and I messaged him and I said look I know that we're gonna hook up tonight but I just want us both to promise we won't fall in love and he we like joked around for a little bit and then it was like super late and I was like okay we're not gonna hook up tonight but we are going on a date next week and I do feel randomly like look is there a chance this is my husband I have a problem where I over identify with the meet cute I have a lot of meet cutes in my life and I over identify and I go this has to be my husband now this is my chance you know and how do they i guess it speaks volumes about someone based on their response to a dm like that because can't we just have a little fun that's the thing is i'm i am being silly on grinder and not a lot of not a lot of people enjoying it well i don't think people yeah i don't think of grinder as a jovial place but i'm being silly in a way where i will fuck you you know what i mean you alone could change the culture i'm trying to change gay guy culture.
16:08I want gay guys to, I want gay guys to have more fun, you know? I, and I want straight guys to have more fun. I'm doing bits with them. I actually was thinking of you the other day, because not that you've done this, but so many of my straight girlfriends would be like, Oh, you're so lucky. All the good guys are gay. And I'm like, have you, I love and appreciate that mentality. But until you've had to go on a date with a gay guy, until you've had to agree to some of the things I've had to agree to in conversation just to get asked, like I have to agree. There are women I've never even heard of that I have to agree are mother and like it's not it's a nightmare it's not different than talking about baseball okay it's like the same thing no I know we are the same we're fighting the same battles out there yes which is that we ultimately want to be hanging out with women just in different fonts just in different fonts actually yeah if those women knew gay guys they would know that a lot of the bad ones are gay as well most I mean yeah being a man is such a precarious thing it's not real we don't have an explanation for it in nature being a man and talking to a man.
17:08It's hard. I hate that it's happening to you right now. I know. Well, I'm actively not talking to them, but when I do and when I get back out there, yeah, or straight guys, I mean. Right, thank you. When I get back out there, I just want to have more fun. I feel like I could even turn the volume up a little bit on that because I'm getting to a level of comfortability where I just don't care if they think I'm insane. Yeah. So I'm just going to have fun and I'm going to look back on those bits that I did, be it one-sided or not, and I'm laughing. Fondly. I'm laughing. I'm looking back with fondness.
17:37And I'm telling my friends, I go, I did this great bit the other day with this straight guy. Yeah. And I'm telling them and we're all laughing. Yeah. The guy's never speaking to me again. Yeah. But that's not what's important, is it? Truly stepping out of your, I'm trying really hard to step out of my worried about being perceived as insane by a lover trauma. Because it is stopping, worrying about being perceived as insane by a lover is stopping me from finding my husband, I feel. I need someone who's actually going to receive my, we have to promise we won't fall in love tonight when we've never spoken a word to each other.
18:08I need that to be received with an excitement. You need to be yes anded. You need to be yes anded. I'm sorry I didn't train in improv for nothing. No, and I'm having fun with it. And I'm sorry if you can't keep up. Yeah. Actually, I'm not sorry. You should probably leave. We are going to cut something that I just said that was inappropriate. I think circling to my point, gay guys in open relationships, are a problem for me. Why are you talking to me? You already found your person. There's something called greed, and we're seeing a lot of it. Gluttony even. Gluttony. And it's really ruining my life.
18:44Well, as a woman, a bisexual woman that was in an open relationship as well. Hold on. Can we sit with that? Let's let that sink in. Let's let that sink in. As a woman, first of all, to be a woman in this space, thank you. Keep going. I would say that straight men in open relationships also need to be stopped as someone who was dating one for several years. I benefited from being in an open relationship with a man as a bisexual woman because I got to hook up with women in that time. And that was a very beautiful and rewarding experience for me. Is an open relationship something that I would ever do again?
19:23At this point in my life, I can honestly say no. now let's say i'm with someone for 20 years yeah i'm i'm minimum this is everyone's big i'm minimum 54 at this point by the way yeah but still have a lot of sexual energy yeah and i am shooting a show in budapest for eight months and there's a 27 year old grip yeah who it's always wears the hell out of those carhartt pants it's all dude let's just say maybe there'd be some negotiations at this point in my life it's not happening for me i don't want it i'm not seeking that and I learned that that's just not who I am at this point. Here's what I want to say.
20:01This is something I'm experimenting with and as we know everything I say on this podcast is subject to pretty immediate disavowal. Yeah that's what podcasts are for. That's what my life is. Yeah that's what my life on the podcast is about but here's something I'm experimenting with right now. I talk to gay guys about open relationships and they end up in two different camps. They go I'm firmly open right now. I want to be in an open relationship immediately when I start dating someone or they go, well, we wouldn't be closed forever. Of course, down the line, we start out closed, but of course, later on we would open it.
20:29Here's something I'm trying to bring to the community. We meet, me and a guy. Neither of us is dating someone else. We start dating each other. We fall deeply in love. I'm going to cry. And we build a family and a life together. And then we die as each other's only lovers. And you never touch another person from that point forward. And of course we lust after them. And of course we say, when we're in our sixties, we're sitting in the Bahamas and we see the cabana boy who's like 28 and he's looking really good in the trunks and we go, God, it would be nice to take him back to our room. And maybe he's interested and he flirts and we go, that's really sweet.
21:00We're flattered, but no. Yeah. The only person for me is my partner. That's beautiful. I want to bring back a type of love that is suffocating. Capitalist almost. Yes. Mutual ownership of one another. That's what I'm interested in experimenting with right now. What if we fall deeply in love and no one ever gets to do anything to us ever again except each other. And what does it say about this current moment that we're in that that feels radical? Hello. It feels bad. To me, can I just say it feels bad? Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands for the super athletic stuff like running gear for cruising up the trail.
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23:10Yeah. Sometimes at the same time, sometimes just, you know, it's all, I just, my heart goes out. Cause I do feel that it is, it's, it was done to you guys. I don't think you're born, but then maybe it's just like men being men. Maybe if straight guys could do that, they also would. But I, I just, uh, my heart goes out. Do you feel that you're overstepping right now? No, I don't either. I don't, but I wondered for a moment. And can I tell you why I have a deep love and we've talked about this as well. And it's one of our big differences. I have a deep love for gay men. I have a deep love for gay men.
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23:44Don't say that. I have a deep love for them. And I feel that you have a deeper love because you don't have to date them. Exactly. Yeah. And if I did, I maybe I wouldn't maybe feel this way, but I think, and I'm sure there's people that are going to be like, just annoying about this. I'm like, I'm living, I am living as, as a member of the community and I am trying to uplift gay men at every opportunity. I'm trying to uplift every, every letter in the LGBTQIA at any moment. So I really stand on business and I stand on my actions. And I, the reason I feel like I can speak on this is because I am so close with so many community members that I have a pretty big sample size.
24:25Yeah. And that's where I'm coming from. And it's never, and it's never like a criticism. Oh, you should stop doing this. It's more like I I'm here for you. And I hope we get to a place where you feel like you don't have to? My journey is that when I was younger, I didn't, I hated the idea of an open relationship because I was insecure. I didn't want my person to be out fucking other people because I feared that they would go out and find something better than me. Then I got to a place where I was like, that's not going to happen. Right. If you've chosen to be with me, it's because you love what I have going on.
24:57Yeah. And we can sleep with other people because they offer fun, other sexual things, but he knows where home is. Totally. And, And so now you feel like. But hold on. Okay. Because there's been another metamorphosis. That was the last couple of years. He Knows Where Home Is was a beautiful chapter.
25:15But the thing with chapters that's so interesting is the end. And new ones begin. Yeah. He Knows Where Home Is was such a beautiful era of my life. It's a beautiful ethos. It's poetic. It's a beautiful ethos. And I'm sure it works for a lot of people. I bet it does. And right now I'm experimenting with. And I might. Look. He Knows Where Home Is. The other thing about books is sometimes the theme comes back up. Sometimes you repeat a situation or an idea. Right now, I'm experimenting with the idea that arranged marriages might be a good idea. That a beautiful, unceasing commitment to another person might be the answer.
25:51Unwavering, no way out. Unwavering, no way out. It's a punishment in a beautiful way. I think that's how a lot of couples feel. They do, and I'm experimenting with it because I think it would be beautiful at this point. Look, I've slept with a lot of people. I'm not going to lie to you. No, and same. Right? And now I'm like, what would it be like to commit to someone no matter what? I can't wait to find out for you. Also, one thing I do want to say is that my opinions are my opinions, and they can be wrong, but they're mine. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I make a lot of declarations. As you know, I have a podcast of my own.
26:23And one thing I will always say is I might be wrong, but I can't change how I feel. Yeah. And I could change my mind at any moment, by the way. That's what's so beautiful about being a Gemini. I'm seeing both sides of the coin and I might change my mind but this is where I'm at right now and this is where you're at is that you think maybe maybe there is a romantic entanglement you could see that feels like something you are trapped in and there can be a lot of beauty in that I think look am I being sincere when I say that? I don't know but I am experimenting with the idea that he knows where home is was just a chapter and when I think about only sleeping with one person for the rest of my life do I become like borderline suicidal?
27:00Of course Yeah. But I want to commit to somebody, you know, and I want to have kids with somebody. And I think maybe, yeah, maybe there's something to it. Now, am I entertaining several guys right now at the moment? So much so that I have to, so much so that I have to have an iPhone note of sort of who I'm supposed to be keeping up with. Yes, that is the situation right now, but I'm dreaming of a better life for myself. And I want to say what you said, that your opinions are your opinions. That was really powerful. And I want to, I have my own version of it. And that is that my opinions are your opinions.
27:36What I say is true. And it's how the people who listen to me feel. And if you're listening to something that I've said, that is, I'm speaking for all of us. I speak for everybody. Well, we hold a mirror up to society. Yes. People forget that sometimes. And if you don't like what you see, it's not me. It's not me. I'm just here holding the mirror. Don't bite the hand that holds the mirror, sugar. Please do not. Don't fucking even try. Don't bite the hand that holds the mirror, sugar. Don't send your pit bull to bite the hand that holds the mirror. I'm saying just look into it and see what you see in there.
28:07See what you see. And if you don't like it, change it. Start with him, Michael Jackson. It's not easy. It's a lot of responsibility holding a mirror up to society like this. It is. Okay. We talked about dating and love. I feel like we really captured that. But what else do we need to... Because, you know, Mary Beth, well, I do want to say also you mentioned that you have a podcast ride with Benny Skinner, who's a brilliant comedic mind and a wonderful person. And you guys are both friends of mine. And I want to let the listeners know that off camera you were lamenting to me in our brief catch up.
28:41I had a feeling this was going to come up. You were lamenting to me that you guys have only wanted a few people to come as guests on your show and you have been unable to get them. And, of course, that hit me hard because I have not been asked. and I'm I would comfortably say I'm one of the podcast guests of our generation yeah and that doesn't bring me pleasure that's just my situation and so for two of my good friends to not ask me on their podcast and then for one of them actually to come into my home and complain to me that they're not able to get the people that they want on the show I did want to just give you a chance to clear the air on that.
29:22And now all I can say to that is I see you. Thank you. I hear you. Right. We're listening. Right. And what I then went on to tell you is that we've only tried to get three people. Yeah. And that we certainly have you on our list of people that we want to have on the podcast one day. Yeah. We don't do a lot of guests, but we will. I have a feeling that we will. I can't predict the future. But if I, let's just say if I was betting on Polymarket. Yeah. If I was placing a bet, which they now want everyone to become gambling addicts in this country and the world, I would put a lot of money on Caleb Heron appearing on Ride the Pod.
29:56Okay. That means the world to me. Yeah. I think it would be special, but that's not actually what I was trying to get into. What I was trying to get into was the responsibility of the podcaster in today's society, which you and I carry that yoke heavily on our shoulders. And I think part of what we're supposed to be doing here is, you know, fixing society.
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35:00I actually have heard myself more saying things that I'm like, why did I have to say that? Like, I could just not say that. I remember I was talking to my ex's friend and he was like, oh, a lot of people say the new Matilda is really good. And I was like, well, you know, they're getting a lot of flack for using a fat suit in that movie. Yeah. And I just said, who fucking cares? Why did I say that? Who cares? Could anything matter less than that? I'm saying. Why would I take away the joy of children liking the movie Matilda by bringing something up that maybe there were a few tweets about? It's like, who cares?
35:30Do you know what I think? The only way that Hollywood is going to end this fat suit controversy once and for all is to put me in a big one. Like, put me in a big, I'm talking like bigger than Brendan Fraser in The Whale. I'm talking like put me in a fat suit that we have never seen before and give me a it would have to be like Norbit, Rasputia, like bigger than that. Yeah, bigger. Like I would need to do that. We need to like just once and for all in the fat suit controversy. It is the fat suit. The movie is called Fat Suit and you put me in the biggest fat suit we can find and we just do something awesome.
36:08We do like we do like Austin Powers radical. Like when he's like he does like the fat bastard. No, I think it's about someone like that who just lives a normal life. Yeah. Day to day. Well, yeah, they tried to do that with the whale, but they forgot to give him any dignity. Yeah. I mean, they had him almost die jerking off to like a pizza. Eating chicken wings. That was kind of, they had a chance to give him just like a normal guy who's like a teacher online. And then they had him ascend into heaven at the end of the movie because he couldn't stop jerking off with pizza. Wait, well, I'm sorry, but I was trying to say earlier, we as podcast aficionados, we have a responsibility to fix things in the world.
36:53And I think we fix love and dating. Yeah. Is there anything else that's been on your mind? Yeah. And I'm really thankful to have the platform to talk about this. Yeah. So I don't think it girls should have weddings. And if they do, they shouldn't post about them. Yeah. I think weddings are for the proletariat. Yeah. It girls have everything else in the world. Yeah. I think weddings are the one thing that normal girls get. They get to feel like a princess for a day. It girls feel like a princess every day. I don't need to see them in a white dress standing in front of a bunch of rows of chairs of people in formal wear.
37:26We've seen it. And so I think if you are going to do that, it should be no phones. You should have yonder cases. All of your guests should lock their phones in yonder cases. It's for family. It's intimate. I don't need to see that. And I'm not coming for any one It girl specifically. because I saw that a few it girls have had weddings in the past, you know, 12 to 18 months. And it really struck me as like, we're, they're taking something away. And I don't identify as an it girl, but should I reach that status? Yeah. I won't have a wedding and post about it. Yeah. Because I think it's, I think it's, it just doesn't sit right with me.
37:59If you have more than 750 ,000 followers on Instagram, it's a courthouse wedding for you. It's going to have to be a courthouse wedding. It's going to be intimate. Maybe you're not wearing, you're not even wearing shoes. Maybe. I want the judge's phone in a yonder case. Completely. Yeah. I don't want to see anything. I don't want documentation to be public. Yeah. I think that's just, that's just, again, an opinion of mine. Yeah. And it's just something I've been wanting to speak on without offending anyone. Cause I don't, I don't think that it girls should get offended. Yeah. Can I just go a step further and say that?
38:27It girls don't have the right to be offended. You have everything. Yeah. I do think that as a person who, uh, professionally gets attention, I, I have never been interested in a wedding because I think a wedding to me, I'm just like, I don't, why would I do that? Right. If I'm going to get everyone together, let's do a show. I want to do some standup. Yeah. Let me perform. Yeah. I completely agree. I think that it's lost its appeal for me. What would feel more subversive is to do something small where it's like all my closest friends and family. Do you know what I, here's what I'll say though, just as a fun idea.
38:59If we keep allowing it, girls to have weddings, they need to do the divorces in the same manner. dress up ceremony phones out pictures everywhere say like i would love to take a peek at the prenup yeah what are you hiding publish the prenup do you feel that you're at this point in your life do you feel that you've become unlikable yet to the regular person or do you feel still pretty connected i was unlikable before how so i think you grew up pretty i think it's well i and this is going to make me sound bad too it's just like the way my face looks yeah people think I'm always going to be coming in with negative energy, I think.
39:35Yeah. And so I've had, yeah, I mean being, being blonde and having a dog completely changed my relationship with the service industry. And I've taken those lessons that I learned from being blonde and I put them in action as a brunette. Yeah. And I, I think that people's people, when people see me, they think that that's, they, they just make a lot of assumptions about me, which aren't true. Cause I have a heart of gold. And if you know me, you know that. Yeah. But I do think that I'm starting behind the eight ball, as they say with people. I'm constantly winning people over. I'm not starting with, people are not coming into interactions with me presuming positive intent.
40:10They're presuming negative intent. You mean to tell me that you genuinely identify as an underdog? Unfortunately, I would say in this current moment, yes. Unfortunately, it's not possible for me to not identify as the underdog. I hope we see a change. Yeah. I think if I, I think if we were in the nineties right now, I could never get away with saying something like that. Yeah. But in our current moment. Yeah. Nothing is more clear to me than the fact that we're not in the nineties anymore. And in some ways, great, whatever. But like, I'm, I wish that I got to enjoy it a little bit more. Yeah. Born in 91.
40:46I got a taste of it. I got a glimpse. Yeah. But I never really got to like indulge in having like a consciousness at that time. Yeah. So. You were born in 91? 91. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. sit with that i'm 34 and i'm not ashamed to say it i just didn't i i guess i hadn't put like a number to that which is this genuinely nothing funny about being 34 it's just 91 is like i've i guess the feeling i was feeling when i said that was a little bit of jealousy you got more consciousness in the 90s than i did yeah and i never thought that that's something that i never pictured i never predicted that would be something i'd feel thankful for yeah but i genuinely am let's practice some gratitude around that gratitude bring it up with the therapist i I feel like the time that I was born was, as a woman, so interesting because I was raised on, of course, Spice Girls Feminism.
41:32Yeah. When at the same time, one of my earliest memories is Bill Clinton's press conference about Monica Lewinsky. Yeah. So it was very confusing, but also then I think created this beautiful mind that I have that I wouldn't trade for anything. Yeah, of course. Because I love how it works, and I have gratitude for that too. Well, I love your mind as well. I think you're brilliant. I think you're beautiful. Thank you. I thought you did an amazing job hosting the Globes, by the way. Thank you. How was that experience? I had a great time. Do you find it difficult to be in those kind of Hollywood rooms where everyone's so upset and emaciated?
42:04Or is it more manageable than I would think? Well, you know, the question I want to ask everyone was, would you rather be happy or skinny? And then go, never mind, I can tell.
42:16Never mind, I know the answer. I know. So, yeah, I think that being in those rooms, it can be overwhelming and stressful for a lot of reasons. And I'm, I think I'm happy that the things that I'm experiencing are happening to me at the age that I'm at, because even, okay, just to walk you through some of my psychosis. Yeah. So I don't have a flat stomach and I never will have a truly flat stomach, the type of flat stomach that you could bounce a quarter off of. Okay. And that's something that I have to live with. Yeah. And so at the Golden Globes, I was wearing a dress that from the side, I had like a little, you could just see it wasn't flat.
42:48and so in my 20s if there was footage of me looking like that on the internet I would have gone into a hole yeah I would have come I would have been so stressed out depressed like oh my god I just don't like how I look there and as a 34 year old now I'm like that's exposure therapy yeah I'm not a model I'm a comedian I don't need to have a flat stomach for work yeah and so it's okay that from the side you there's a little there's a little tummy yeah there's a little tummy me bump. I'm glad you acknowledge that entire line of thinking as psychosis because it is one of the more psychotic things I've ever heard you say.
43:24For you to say I'm not a model as like objectively a model. But I'm not. Mary Beth. But I'm not bringing this up so you would say this. No, no, no. I know that. I love you to death. We have to step back into reality for a moment. The idea that you would even say from the side I have a little bit of a stomach is like it is time to root back. I want you to take your socks off and step in grass today. I want you to come back to us. I want you to rejoin us on earth because that's insane. It's really scary. It's scary, and I'm not saying it's your fault, but it's scary stuff. Well, because you said emaciated, so I just wanted to speak to that a little bit.
43:56Yeah. Describing the other people in the room. Well, so many people in those rooms are like, they're getting thin to a point that I'm like, uh-oh, and they're also, everyone in those spaces is vibrating like a tuning fork with the pressure of trying to seem cool when they're deeply uncool. They like want to win a trophy so bad that they are like would genuinely, genuinely, whether they admit it or not, they would poison every other nominee to death to get that trophy. And that is an energy that being around it is like very, very psychotic. And you really did such a good job at making it lighthearted and funny.
44:32I think I really wanted to just match people's energy. And that was the goal. And I did 50 interviews and some of them won't come out for various reasons, whatever they may be. People's publicists said that they couldn't. People's publicists said that they couldn't. But I think it was really fun for me. I genuinely had a great time. And what I wanted to do was make people feel comfortable to the point. I wanted to make people feel comfortable by asking them questions that they didn't necessarily need an answer to or giving them multiple choice. Just because now that I've been on the other end of some of those interviews, I'm like, if you ask me how I feel in a certain moment, that's such a complicated question.
45:08And it's hard to answer without sounding like a fucking idiot, to be frank. Like, so we wanted to create a back and forth that felt like there was no pressure on the person to be funny. We're going to have it be sort of lighthearted and silly. And if there was ever a lull, I just have another question for them. Yeah. And I had I had a lot of fun and the response was really lovely and wonderful. And so but it was one of those things, too, where I was like, when are they going to turn on me? Yeah, because they're going to turn on me and I just don't know when. Well, this is the big question we all have to contend with.
45:35Yeah. Yeah. And that was scary. But I I had. Yeah, it was great. I really, I couldn't feel the bottom of my feet for a few days because I was standing in heels for that long. But yeah, I had fun. You did a really phenomenal job and you bring up something so important, which is that publicists as it stands are a protected group in this country and they, we need to open up at least the conversation and idea of discriminating against them. Remove protected status for publicists. Publicists are some of the most insidious and dark figures. And I want my publicists to tune out right now. Just log off for a moment.
46:07we'll let you know when it's safe to tune back in yeah i love you guys you do great work but publicists as a class of people are some of the most horrendous like upsetting people i've ever had to interact with i want to say too there were some that we didn't put out there were only two that got held for publicist reasons yeah and then the rest were either creative decisions or just like you know at a certain point if you just keep posting the like people will just be like okay we get it yeah okay yeah we've seen it now we got the interview there are some we're going to release as time goes on in a timely manner.
46:37Yeah. That makes sense. But yeah, there was a publicist lounge in the hotel. And it had a sign that says publicist lounge. And when I walked by it, I had to chill. Sponsored by the biggest purses you've ever seen, by the way. Oh, the biggest purses and Purdue Pharmaceuticals. By the way. Yeah. Really, really. Yeah. Also, I want to tell public figures, please stop hiding behind your publicist. Stop it. It's not working. your agents and managers and publicists being mean to everyone on your behalf. And then you showing up and being like, Hey, how is everyone? It's not working. We know that you're involved.
47:14We know that you're not unaware of, we know that you were sending a text being like, tell them I'm leaving in 45 fucking minutes. I don't want to be here. The like, my team will be the bad guy. So I can show up and be the nice guy thing. If anyone listening to this as a public figure, I just want you to know it's not working. And I am assigning the way your team treats people to your ethics from here on out. That's where I'm going with it. Because it's not working and I hate it. Publicist has to come to records of this show. And I say, you can stand on the street and wait. Yeah. You cannot interrupt me ever while I'm talking.
47:43Get one of those things. Sit in a police van. Yes. Get one of the things that you can hear what we're saying. Yes. And then you can talk about it after. And there won't be a communication line coming back to us. No, certainly not. If a publicist ever interrupts me during a thought, I am really scared. I think I would black out and do something really bad. Something really, really bad. Really, really, really bad. I, I haven't, we haven't interacted with that many publicists because we don't have guests on our podcast, but I can imagine. And I will say there was minimal publicist intervention at the Golden Globes.
48:12Like I do think people felt safe that if they needed to, they could step in, but like didn't, you know, interfere with the back and forth. Yeah. But there is just, yeah, there is something to be said for that. And I do love my publicists, of course, because they have hearts of gold. Just like, because that's matching my energy. People I've ever met in my life. But yeah, I, I agree with you. I don't think it's working. I just, the thing you said, like people felt comfortable. They felt safe knowing they could jump in. I want to create an environment of fear where they know they can't. You cannot jump in.
48:44Your client is an adult and they can speak to me, another adult and make choices about the way they, you would cannot step into me having a conversation ever. Do not ever interrupt me. I just really don't have any tolerance for it. We're two adults having a conversation in public and our job is being in public. Right. I think they can handle the repercussions of slipping up on a word. Right. It's crazy. And by the way, we want everyone to look good in that situation. I don't want to make anyone look bad. So we were being extremely thoughtful as well in the edit of like, oh, let's cut this part.
49:12Cause it like, it dragged a little bit or like that one didn't land or whatever it is. Like we don't want to make these celebrities look like fools. And by the way, we could. Depends on which one. Well, yeah. For me, it depends on which one. I don't know. It depends. yeah the the whole just the being consumed by the public do you ever get stressed by it or do you feel like you're at peace with it uh in which part what do you mean just constantly being i guess the this idea of like you're even when we're having this conversation people are consuming us on the internet yeah does that ever stress you out i have tried my very of course i've tried my very best to tune out of as much as possible it will rot your brain um but i think more broadly than i also really hope that when people listen to this show and we sometimes talk about what it's like to be perceived online i hope everyone knows that we're it's not separate from what we're all experiencing like this is actually a universal conversation we all are contending with the stresses and repercussions of living in a time where we are living in the panopticon every one of us even who are not uh famous or have podcasts or stand-ups or whatever every one of us is living in a time in society where we're all being watched all the time yeah and we all have to contend with that so if it ever feels uh yeah i just want everyone to like know that these conversations are actually about all of us and i'm just talking from my unique lens on it yeah but we all live in this really fucked up time where everyone's watching us all the time there's always a phone and a camera trained on all of us i mean there's three cameras on us right now right and you came on purpose to do this that's crazy i know but when you were walking down the street there were probably hundreds of cameras on you like yeah it's a really crazy time to live in and i think as little as you can think about that is helpful because it's really not natural what's happening to us we weren't supposed to be known by this many people yeah and i just to also say i am really grateful gratitude yeah i'm grateful for the audience that i have and i i think i liked i like to be thoughtful about what i say because i don't want to let them down you know like they've trusted me and they they're supporting me and so i just want to like do right by them all the time and so i I don't want it to sound like I'm complaining at all because we got into this knowing full well what it entails.
51:22And obviously we're learning new things about what it's like to do this for a job every day. But I do have a lot of gratitude and I just want to like do I want to use the platform for good and for entertainment. Yeah. But I just don't want it to ever feel like I'm complaining because like every opportunity that I have, I'm thankful for. Even being on this podcast. It's an honor to be asked back. I'm not even. You're grateful to be on So True Podcast. I'm being so genuine right now. You're being earnest with me? And being earnest is another thing people struggle with with me is they can't tell when I'm being earnest.
51:51That's because your cadence remains the same. I know. And I'm really sorry about that. No, don't be sorry. I'm just telling you why. I'm just expecting. Not me. I love you. And I feel very comfortable and open with you. But people think I'm constantly being facetious when I'm not. Yeah. I'm grateful. I'm grateful for so many things. You know what I actually was thinking of recently? I really do practice gratitude a lot. Like as an actual practice. like sitting down and legitimately thinking about things I'm grateful for that I can walk, that I can see, that I can speak. Um, that yeah, that I have like a financial situation that is so much better than like when grow, when I was growing up, I think about all these things, but recently I read something that has been sticking with me so much on sub stack.
52:31I'm loving sub stack. Can I just say, are you on sub stack? Get on sub stack girl. Sub stack is so special to me. It's what finally encouraged me to get rid of Tik TOK. No offense to the Tik TOK lovers thank you guys for watching the videos and sharing them yeah but i don't i was not having fun on tiktok i didn't enjoy it um substack is awesome substack is so fun people are writing really great stuff on there the the notes function on substack is feeling so it's the first thing that has come close to making me feel like twitter used to feel before it got awful yeah twitter used to be amazing and i feel so bad for people that don't know that i know early twitter was so incredible um but yeah people are writing and it's a lot of fun and I'm reading lots of good stuff on there um but substack I read something about someone was writing about they have a um they have a family member who is schizophrenic and they were writing about how they had never their their their family member I guess developed schizophrenia or their symptoms changed or something but their mind wasn't always um so impacted by schizophrenia yeah and they were talking about the amount of gratitude they've started practicing around like having a sound mind a mind that can like reason and make sense of things and isn't lying to them or playing tricks on them.
53:42And I like really had never considered that in my gratitude practice, but it is actually when I get down to it, the thing I am the most grateful for is that I have a mind that I can trust. And that doesn't mean like, I don't even mean that I'm smart. I mean, I have a mind that isn't like, it isn't playing voices that aren't there. It isn't telling me lies. It isn't like trying to destroy me all the time. It was in my twenties, my early twenties. It was trying to destroy me with depression, but my mind is sound yeah you know what I mean and that is like so now I've been trying to find new things to be grateful for that I've never considered and it's hard because most of them are just like the things you'd think of like my friends in my house yeah you're sort of selling me on substack because I love the idea of finding things like that that then are resonating with me and I don't really feel like I have a place for that right now like when I see things on TikTok that I like it's usually like fan edits of like I posted one that was like that feeling when a guy says you scare him, you know, and it's basketball players, um, making their shots.
54:39Um, I would love to, I would love to have my brain sort of stimulated by some more, um, substantial thoughts, like what you're describing. And I am, I am thankful for my, my sound mind. I think one thing I haven't spoken about that much, which I'm sure I will speak on it more as I've like processed it. My dad had dementia toward the end of his life and just watching, watching him be able to trust his mind less and less. I, I've definitely been feeling more grateful for my health. Yeah. It's just about gratitude and, and Hey, you're grateful for Substack. I am grateful for Substack. You're grateful for that beautiful mind of yours.
55:15I really do love Substack. I also had a huge, uh, I had started when I started Substack, it was because I was ending my relationship with Patreon and me and Patreon had to call it quits. I thought you were going to say something else. I was ending my relationship with a real person with your boyfriend instead of a platform um no i was ending we were moving over to sub stack from patreon really nothing against patreon they were lovely and it was a great platform but just sub stack offered more of what we needed um but we had made like we had told the fans what our sub stack was going to be like and then i very quickly got overwhelmed by the amount of things that needed to happen and i had to like do something very difficult and and be like hey that's actually not going to go like that i have to pull back and some of these things i can't do yeah and And I was really scared because I take very seriously people's money and attention.
56:04People's money and attention is very, very, very important to me. I don't fuck around about my shows being good. I don't fuck around about people getting their money's worth. I try to pay people very well. I'm very serious about people's money and attention. Yeah. And I don't ever want someone to feel like I'm cashing in on them or taking advantage. And everyone was so sweet and lovely and understanding. It was during last year where I had like the most psychotic work year of my life. Thank God. I'm so grateful. I loved everything I did. Except for one thing. Tell me after. We can talk about it off camera.
56:39But yeah, it was so nice to like have a, I just felt so endeared to my little community on Substack that was so like kind to me. Well, that's a reflection of the base that you've built, which I'm grateful for with our podcast listeners as well, because they obviously know who you are as a person. And it's a reflection of, of, yeah, like you're, you are, you're the magnet for those people. And I think that's when I'm really proud to have the fans that I have. And it feels weird to say fans, but like, you know, the audience that I have, it's when I do shows and I invite other comedians on and they're like, wow, your crowds are so great.
57:14Like they're so attentive. They're locked in, they're laughing. It's like, so they're the most fun shows. And it's because that's like what you're putting out yeah so i think that it's did anyone send you mean messages uh no some people canceled their subscription which i we said like please get a refund if you need to do that we're still offering a lot we offer ad free episodes and stuff on there like it's not like we took everything away but there were people that did cancel their thing but they were very nice and that that's appropriate money's tight like do what you need to do yeah but they're like hey i love you i just can't justify paying for this if i'm not getting the thing i love they loved like the bonus interviews or whatever and i was like good for you like there's no part of me that's like fuck you they were so nice about it but the thing about audiences being nice i chance and i every venue we went to on tour last year the venue staff would like tell us like your fans are the nicest people we have ever interacted with and it like made us cry like it was so emotional and sweet because we feel that like we do feel that like we like nice people like our stuff and our our our fans treat venue staff well.
58:17They tip, they like are polite and courteous and they follow the rules and are like, they're conscientious. They're nice people. Yeah. And it made me, it's probably the proudest. If I'm like proud of anything that I did last year, probably the proudest moments were like venue staff telling us that our fans were the nicest people that come in the building. It means a lot. Yeah. And the fact that, yeah, it's, it's sort of a cycle because the fact that we would care about something like that, I think is why, you know what I mean? Yeah. Just people that are thoughtful and caring. And so I think if gratitude is the theme, then I'm feeling it.
58:47You're feeling gratitude? That's what I have to say. Are you happy? Be honest. I am not. Really? Not all the time. I have moments. Yeah. I guess I mean, when I say that, I don't think there's such a thing as a happy person, like capital H, it's a thing you are. But I mean, do you feel yourself experiencing a lot of happiness lately or are we working on it? We're working on it. Yeah. I think one thing that was hard about the Globes for me was like, I went home and I was by myself. Like, I really want to be in a relationship. I want to be in love. I want to build a life with someone. So to leave something that was so much stimulation and feel like, oh my God, that was so fun.
59:23And then you go home and like, no one's caring for me right now. And maybe that's important for my growth. And then when I meet the person, I'll be better because I'll know myself better about whatever, whatever. You know, you know, all that crap. Yeah. Stupid shit. stupid bullshit that's dumb that we tell ourselves to make it hurt less but i think that yeah that's that's sort of the big hole in my life right now and i'm trying to be comfortable with that but it is hard it's like i want someone to hold me and tell me i did a good job and rub my back and you know i have a list of what i'm looking for in my next partner i'll share it with you after this if you're interested but it's i'm i just want to be more um i guess like yeah thoughtful about who I engage with in the future.
1:00:07And that's why I'm taking this break right now. I just need to really focus on work, which focusing on work does make me happy. And when things are happening with work, I feel those moments of joy. I would love to be fulfilled in that area, but it's just not the time for that right now for whatever reason. Yeah, I think the big challenge in life for everybody is like a piece will probably always be missing. Like, I think we all have to come to terms with like the fact that a piece will always be missing. The equation will never be completely perfect. This thing will fall into place. That thing will shift out of place.
1:00:38There will always be something that could be better. Yeah, there will always be something that could be better. And that is so hard because I think the hardest part about trying to be a person who's happy more often than they're not is like we have to, yeah, we have to figure out. Because same, I want to be in like a loving, happy relationship, et cetera. yeah um yeah you have to just we we have to be like oh okay it'll happen when it happens it'll happen when it happens and i i guess i i don't know the people it's so hard you're like oh people listen to this and do that or think this or whatever but like i'm just being honest i guess i'm i've always just led with honesty and that's just how i'm feeling right now it's like i want a partner and i'm looking at my life and where i where i am at 34 is not where i thought I'd be in my like personal life, but I, and people are always like, we have all these great friends and blah, blah, blah.
1:01:30I'm like, well, I'm not going to bring my 12 best friends as my date to a wedding. Am I? Yeah. You know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. So don't, don't come to me with that bullshit. Yes, of course. And I put so much into my friendships and I'm, and my friends really showed up for me in a beautiful way last year. Like you included, I had a very difficult year and, and I'm so grateful for that, but like, it's not the same as someone who's going to like wake up next to me and kiss me with morning breath and go get a coffee for me so I can sleep longer. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like my friends aren't doing that and I would never expect them to.
1:02:00I will say I took a pretty big swing when you called me about your dad passing. I know. I know. I took a big swing. You called me crying and I said, first of all, relax. You should calm down. Stop being dramatic. And I, the, the, the millisecond it took to hear your laughter was one of the scariest moments of my life. I hope that you feel the comfortability to do that for the rest of our friendship until we're 90. I do. But then at 90, I need to tighten up. At 90, I think you should maybe pull it back a little bit and just be a little bit more respectful and serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's tough because I guess they, as they say, I think this was from Sex and the City, but maybe someone came up with it before and Carrie Bradshaw stole it.
1:02:39But you're always looking in New York, as a woman in New York, you're always looking for a job, a boyfriend or an apartment. Yeah. So I, yeah, where I'm at right now is that I am passively looking for an apartment, but, and, and it could be a girlfriend too. Hello. 2026. Hello. Let's say that. Where's my G flip where I want you to find your G flip so bad. I want my G flip. We did your show true. It girls should not be having weddings, but you know, we have to play true false. Great. Let's do it. We do. It's the last thing. I'm going to read you 15 statements, Mary Beth Barone. And you're going to tell me as quickly as you can after each one.
1:03:09If you think what I just said is true or false, if you get 10 or more correct, I'm going to give you 50 US dollars. Are you ready? Cool, yeah. Bath and Body Works was founded in 2000. False. False, 1990. There's an active volcano in Colorado. True. True. Squids have beaks. False. True. Boston College's motto is look to the heavens. That is false. False. It is ever to excel. That's what I was going to say if you didn't say it. Yeah. Mercury is the only planet in the solar system with no moons. False. False. It's Mercury and Venus. Lizzie McGuire ran for two seasons. True. True. True. No U.S. president has ever been without a first lady.
1:03:42False. False. James Buchanan. Bulls are colorblind. True. True. West Hill High School's newspaper is called The Hiller. That is false. It's called The Westward. Dan Marino played his whole career with the Miami Dolphins. True. True. Samsung means three stars in Korean. I can't speak on that. I won't answer. You have to answer. False. It's true. Aunt Queens can live up to 30 years. Aunt Queens can live up to 34 years because I am one. What are you going with? You better pick a true or false. True. It is true. Protestants are the largest Christian denomination. Ooh, true. False. It's Catholics. But I left.
1:04:27What? Oh, yeah. That's true. I want to talk to you about that, by the way. Okay. The Connecticut State Anthem is Yankee Doodle. False. True. Kathy Bates is an EGOT winner. False. False. How'd she do? 11. Wow. Let's go. Rock and roll. I want my 50. That's huge. You'll be getting it. Hey. Mary Beth, tell the people where they can find you, what they should do to support. You can find me at Mary Beth Barone on all social platforms. And I'm touring. There's a few tickets left in Dallas and a few in Providence. But they might be gone by the time this comes out. So you better act fast. You better hope.
1:05:02You better invent a time machine and act fast. Hello. You can also find me as the co-host of Ride the Podcast, which by the time this comes out, we will be on a hiatus between seasons three and four, but you can always go back and listen from the first episode. And you should. And you should. And you can watch Overcompensating on Prime Video. You can. You can. And you can text Benny and tell him to put me in season two because he asked me at Union Hall if I would come back for season two. Yeah. Hypothetically, I said, Benny, of course I would. I told him not to. Make CJ some psychotic little arc for one episode.
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