Base Power Hits $13B Valuation on $1B Series D

0:00Justin Lopas:Base Power just raised a$1 billion Series D at a$13 billion valuation led by Ribbit, Edition, Valor, and JPMorgan Chase, bringing total funding over$2.5 billion, just 10 months after their$1 billion Series C. Today they're launching Base Core, the largest standalone home battery on the market. So this is actually the Base Core. This is what we're announcing. It's almost like plugging in an EV. And so they stack up the modules inside and the inverter, and then they just plug everything So it's a 40 kilowatt hour system and 20 kilowatts on the inverter. This is like three times larger than what you would find in a traditional home battery.

0:34So these are battery cells. Inside of this is a bunch of chemistry that basically stores energy. So you can charge and discharge it. We're not there yet, but we'll be able to produce about 4 ,000 of these units per week towards the end of the year. That's like one every few minutes, which is very, very quick. Let's say that the grid goes off. You can see like grid goes off, but the battery's back.

1:05so last time i talked with you guys was your series c back in october where you raised a billion dollars congratulations on another billion dollars and a 13 billion dollar post valuation thank you but this doesn't exist so how long did this whole facility take yeah so we moved in here in September, October of last year. But the production line really only got started, started getting built in February or March of this year. So like where we're standing right here, all of this is, you know, less than six months old. We were doing some warehousing and distribution stuff for the six months prior to that.

1:39But this all has come together super quickly. And if you came here in the morning, you see like most of the people that we've brought on also have started in the last six months that are working in the factory. So it's been a super rapid, you know, increase in our production capacity and all of our team that's producing. And how many people work in this facility? We've got about 100 now. Okay. Um, yeah, we got about 100 and then we're going to be starting a second ship. How many floors is this? Is it just one floor? Just one floor, yeah. Really? Yeah, I'll show you the... The building looks huge.

2:07There's a multi-floor office that we don't use that's not part of our lease, but yeah, we've got three floors in our HQ, one major production floor here, and then we've got a big warehouse back there too. And you guys are hiring? We're hiring a ton, yeah. Iron across all roles. All roles. Cool. All right, so we're here at Base Power in Austin, Texas, specifically in the neighborhood with Justin Lopez. How are you? Good, how you doing? Thanks for coming. Pretty good. So you're gonna walk us through Base. Yeah. And something very special that just got released. Yes, let's do it. So Base Designs and Manufacturers Batteries, We're about to show you where they're made.

2:50And this display shows you how they're installed on a home. So the batteries provide backup power for homeowners. So if the grid goes off, the battery backs you up. And also when the grid's up and running, it provides the grid support. So when there's tightness on the grid from everybody plugging in their EVs and turning on their AC and it's hot in the summer or very cold in the winter here in Texas or anywhere else, the batteries provide that support. But here's how they're hooked up. So the way that it works is grid typically comes in into your meter. This we don't install. This is the utility meter.

3:24We just put our logo on it for this display. And then normally it goes straight from here into your electrical panel. And the electrical panel then distributes it to your washing machine and your refrigerator and all that. But instead, when we come, we basically break that connection and we install our system right here and on the ground over there in the middle. So the way that this works is electricity comes in through the meter goes out of the meter into our Disconnect box which I'll explain in a minute and then comes out of our box and into the electrical panel. This is important because This provides what's called whole home backup So oftentimes many batteries in the market will only back up certain circuits on your home and you have to like pick those circuits when it's Getting installed and so maybe you won't back up your washing machine, but you will your refrigerator here.

4:07That's a bummer. And so we said, why don't we back up everything in the home and build a system that can do that. And so that's how we've done it. This box is also designed by us. It looks gray and boring, and that's on purpose for regulatory reasons. But this is actually, there's a lot of smartness in here. And what this does is it does all the telemetry and all the data collection and also controls the system. This is installed by an electrician, highly skilled electrician, takes an hour or two, sometimes three, depending on where it is. And then that's it. That's all the electrician does. And then later on the next day, typically the delivery drivers come and they install this.

4:45So this is actually the base core. This is what we're announcing. This is base core. This is the new product. And so this actually has a quick connect on that disco inside and a quick connect here. So you don't have to do any wiring. You don't have to like cut and strip wire or fish it through conduit. All these things that like require a lot of skill sets and take a lot of time and are very expensive We don't do any of that It's almost like plugging in an EV and so they stack up the modules inside and the inverter and then they just plug everything in That takes like, you know However long it takes to walk from the truck to stack these heavy modules basically so 15 minutes 30 minutes, etc They have a little phone app that allows them to turn it on and make sure it works and that's it and then this also allows you to plug in a generator so if there's a super long duration outage where like the battery doesn't back you up for the whole period of time say it's a few days or even a week you can top off the battery with one of those little like pull start generators and that's it that's the product Wow do you want to do the oh yeah we can do the thing yeah so flip the flap okay so if you look at where the where the lights are this is like showing the flow of electricity so the grid is powering the home and in this mode right now we're charging the battery so you can see the electricity going into the battery but let's say that the grid goes off if you want to like point the camera at the window you can see like grid goes off but then the battery backs up and now the battery's backing up we actually made it uh made that gap like um a few seconds for dramatic effect but actually you don't even know so like oftentimes our customers will be backed up on the bat by the battery they won't even know because like there's no outage in between because the battery flips over so quickly and now you can also see like battery energy going into the panel and then into the home.

6:34Damn and so you're a bit of an electrician yourself. I'm a very amateur electrician but yeah I do some electrical work at my house and such but yeah we have actual real electricians that actually install these things who are licensed and trained and much much more highly skilled than me. And you said it takes how many people and how many hours to get this installed? So this box is like an hour or two typically by an electrician and then that box is like less than an hour by two guys just because it's like it's heavy. And so I'm in California we only have one power service provider.

7:13Justin Lopas:Yeah. You're sharing how you're in Texas there's multiple options so I'm going around to different offices and I'm going to be sure that they choose you next but like can you walk through that process like how do you get to choose and what are the what's the main difference between the offerings? Yeah totally so there's basically two types of electricity markets in the U.S. there's retail choice meaning you can choose who you buy your power from and then there's not retail choice and so in California is mostly a non-retail choice market and Texas for the most part, but not all of Texas is a retail choice market.

7:46So what that means is that you can choose who you buy your power from. So outside of batteries, and we offer this without a battery, you can sign up for our service and we sell you power. So if you use, you know, a thousand kilowatt hours in the month, we sell you a thousand kilowatt hours and that's what we bill you for. And on the back end, we are maintaining your lower cost of energy because we have these batteries on your neighbor's homes. Now that's in the retail choice markets. So like Houston and Dallas and parts north of Austin and in the Chicago area, those are all retail choice markets.

8:18And so that's what we do. In the non-retail choice markets, so like California, we don't operate in California yet, but places like El Paso is an example where we operate. Those markets you can't choose your power, where you buy your power from. So like PG &E is the only game in town. If you want electricity, that's it. And so in those markets we partner with the utility, we still put the battery on the home. We own the battery but the utility controls it and then they pay us for access to the battery. So that's how we recoup the cost of the battery so to speak and that's our business model in those markets.

8:52Cool. Should we see the factory? Let's do it. Okay. Okay so basically we're doing three things in this building. The first is R &D. So here each one of these silver boxes is what's called a thermal chamber. So these are basically like hot cold, high humidity, low humidity, and we're doing like reliability testing primarily. So like we want to be able to install the thing for, you know, it takes like an hour or two and then not touch it for 15 years. Right. And so that turns out it's like a harder technical problem than you think. And so like that one right there is at 85 % humidity and 85 degrees C, which is like hotter than it would ever get on earth to like simulate extreme temperatures.

9:36Yeah. It's a hot box. Exactly. Exactly. These are units that don't have their skins on. So you can kind of see what this looks like. So there are four of these battery modules and then one inverter. So this obviously has some test equipment on it. But essentially when you take all the covers off, this is what it looks like inside. And these are all made here, which is what I'm about to show you.

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11:35This is like three times larger than what you would find in a traditional home battery. And that's purposeful. Like we want to put as much power and as much energy on a home as we can because our install costs are basically the same whether or not we install, you know, five or 40 kilowatt hours. Have you put anything on the newspaper line? No, no, we haven't. That's decommissioned, unfortunately. We've walked around on it, but not - You walked around on it? We had some people walk around on it to do some maintenance up there, but no, we have not. Okay. We have not. But anyways, this is the end of the module line.

12:07So the module line comes towards us, and what it produces essentially is - Let's see if there's one in here. Yeah, this one's empty. These are all empty, I guess, but we haven't because we're just producing more. But essentially, we pack them out into these boxes at the end of the line, the inverters that look like what's on the shelf over there. And so if you walk this way,

12:34again this is all empty right now, but normally you'd see parts running through here. So each station has a different purpose. We also designed all of the software, so the MES as it's called, Manufacturing Execution System. The software on all of the monitors is all what we've written that controls robots and controls the traceability and all this other stuff. So you can see this line is like semi-automated, semi-manual. So we have an automated potting operation. We have a manual screwing operation. There's an automated test on the other side of the line at the end of the line. And so we've done a mix of basically manual versus automated.

13:15And the reason for that is some things are really hard to automate and humans can do them a lot better and so why would we waste time on it do you foresee any humanoid robotics in here someday yeah for sure i think the challenge that we have and a lot of things that are hard to automate physically have very high dexterity and so when the hands on humanoid robots get very good uh then i think there's an application there was one that just went viral i saw this yeah yeah I saw that. I saw that. Yeah. That, uh, it's hard though. Like, cause like, for instance, you know, one of the steps here is to like install a little screw, right?

13:53And so you have to like hold the screw and hold the, hold the torque gun and like place it very carefully inside of the printed circuit board and you can't mess up because there's a bunch of components around it. And so that's really hard to automate. And so we have a, we have a person that is here doing this, um, or installing connectors on the other side of the line. So just depends on what the process is. So why are you guys building this? You could have kept on building it and installing it. Why build it yourself? Yeah, I mean, I think like the fundamental thing is that the use case for the battery, which is really focused on backing up a home for a long period of time and being supportive of the grid, is different than most home batteries, which are typically paired with solar.

14:32So if you look at other competitive battery products that are like sold mostly to wealthy people at very high cost, they're like small, typically wall mounted, take a long time to install and aren't really focused on supporting the grid. And the business model isn't oriented towards that, right? They're like just sold to typically wealthy people. This is a totally different play on grid batteries. Instead of big shipping container batteries, we chopped it up into a bunch of little pieces. We put it at the edge of the grid. That's what this is. This is a grid focused battery. Then why do we make it ourselves versus like pay somebody else to make it?

15:06It's a vertical integration thesis, right? We We can cut down cost, we can reduce lead time, we can change the hardware much more quickly because we can have the engineer drive the golf cart or run over here and go change something on the line from HQ. And so it's just like, it's a control thing. And also like we wanna bring manufacturing back to the US. That's something I'm very passionate about and we're able to do with a big factory like this. Cool. So this is the unit. We've got, this is the end of the line also for the battery module. So you can see that these were built today here.

15:46So there's two lines here. They're the exact same thing. They're just double the output. And so the beginning of the line starts over here. Damn, these are some robot arms. Serious automation. These are crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So it starts life as a big aluminum box, and this comes from one of our suppliers. This is all to our design. Afterwards, it goes into this big robotic assembly cell. And so what this does is this basically creates, if you look through here, you can kind of see, you see those like racks that are facing down on the right side here. Those are groups of cells. You see that on those like downward facing racks.

16:34So those are groups of cells. And those are created over here by this robotic cell. So the first robot applies a layer of glue. And then the second two robots place those battery cells into the enclosure. And if you look at all these carts, they're not moving right now, but they're driven automatically. So they follow this tape on the floor and they go into the cell here. That's crazy. How did you guys learn how to do this? So we've hired a lot of great people who have worked on automated assembly systems before at various different high volume companies, some automotive, some not. And look, I mean, this is like cool engineering and awesome, but we didn't invent the robots, right?

17:18The robots, we buy the robots and we program them and we use them for our use case. One of those stacks over there is basically this. If you want to sit down. Yeah, I want to. No, I can. I can totally carry it. This is like 40 pounds. Yeah. And there's four of them in there. Oh, so it is 40 pounds. No, no. There's four of these inside the module. Oh. And it's like 110 pounds. So it's like 25 pounds. Let me try that again. It was 25 pounds. Yeah, totally 25 pounds. Yeah. That is so heavy. So cells are dense. So these are battery cells. and what's right behind me creates this. So it stacks up the cells, it puts a little fire brake in between, it puts these bands on, and then it puts the end caps on and compresses all of it.

18:07So it's all one big block. So for people who don't know how batteries work, can you explain the architecture of a battery? Yeah, sure. So a battery is made up of a bunch of cells. Each one of these blue boxes is one cell, and so our batteries have a few tens of cells in them. inside of this is a bunch of chemistry that basically stores energy so you can charge and discharge it and then as you can see on the top there's a plus and a minus so it's just like a nine volt battery you know in your remote control for your tv but uh much bigger and you can't dispose of these in your normal garbage uh you should not dispose of these well don't dispose of any of these because we own them but in general yes you cannot dispose of these in your normal all garbage.

18:49Yeah.

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20:47And then it comes through here. There's a few more manual and test steps. And then it goes in one of these two pieces of equipment here. It's called the friction stir welder. And so what that does, this is one that came out of the friction stir welder. What that does is it creates this weld. So we put this lid on and it welds the whole thing shut. So now it's all one sealed unit. This can be submerged in water if we don't, obviously don't desire it to be. But if you're in Houston or somewhere on the coast in Florida, if it floods, you're totally fine. And then there's a few more test steps and then it goes out the door.

21:24And all of this is all managed by, if you look on the screen here, all of our own software. So we manage units per hour, equipment utilization, and all of our other important production metrics. So how many hours does it take to make one of them? So it's less than an hour to go from start to finish through the whole thing. Yeah, it's like 10, 15 minutes. But more importantly is how many we produce every minute. And so we're not there yet, but we'll be able to produce about 4 ,000 of these units per week towards the end of the year. And so that's like one every few minutes, which is very, very quick.

22:08And so these little robots are driving around. And if you were here during the day, you'd see them cycling. Oh, I understand. This is why you wanted me to come during the work hours. And I was like, I can't. Happy to have you back whenever. But there's this line and then that line over there. and then there's the inverter line and then we're building a new factory out by the airport. Cool amazing and so you're installing 100 a day? Right now we're installing over 100 a day and we're going to hopefully double that here pretty soon. So we've got more than 100 people now out in the field that are doing installs running around doing deliveries we do our own logistics so a lot of what you see here is cool inside of the four walls but where the where the rubber really hits the road is like literally on the road going to the homes and so we install like I said over 100 of these things a day right now.

23:03So if you didn't have your job which one of these roles specifically in I guess like the factory side of things or in the install side of things yeah would you want? Oh I'd be an electrician for sure. You'd be an electrician? I find I find wiring actually super interesting and fun it's like um it's a technical puzzle basically of like what connects to what in what order and to do it safely and effectively. You get to interface with our, we call our customers members, our members. They're the one interface that we have physically with the member because they knock on doors and say, hey, we're going to be on the side of your house, turn off the power for a few minutes while things are being installed.

23:42And you get to go all around the city and see various different neighborhoods. I mean, we're installing, you know, one electrician is installing multiple of these things a day. And so if you're in Dallas or Houston or Austin, you're getting to see the whole city, which was a ton of fun. Pretty cool. Did you make any bombs as a kid? I did not make bombs. I'm just kidding. No bombs. I worked on cars. Nothing that exploded, though. On an oil rig? I worked on an oil rig as an intern. Yeah. You worked on an oil rig as an intern? Yeah, as an oil field service intern. It was in a land rig, not like a rig on the water.

24:17Oh. Like a drilling rig, but in West Texas. Not really the same, but I get it. Yeah, yeah. It's like the show Landman. It's like the show Landman, exactly. Like, there will be blood. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. That's it. Anything else? I think that's it. Covered it all. Base power. Buy your power from the best power on earth, and that's Base Power Power.

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