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31:44And again, I think a lot of folks who are going to be talking about the technology are still conflating machine learning with generative AI. And I think that that's always been a problem with the discussion. again I think a lot of folks are going to poo poo on something and never try it but I also feel like we do this thing in this space where we continuously shit on everything and to be fair you don't have to use it most people out here don't even have a 50 series card you won't even be able to use it because 50 cards are crazy expensive right now a 50 80 is 1500 bucks a 50 90 is almost four grand i looked the prices up this morning because i was like i wonder if the prices are still getting so crazy you're not going to be able to do half the stuff that you're complaining about so winds up being this thing where it just feels like a lot of bluster all the time where people are hating on technology and they hated on every version of technology that we've seen in the gaming space for a long period of time and now this is another thing to throw in the pile when technology is getting faster technology is getting different uh it's getting more robust in a lot of different ways and i think this is going to be an extension of what we wind up seeing and i do think some of this stuff is going to creep into the consoles that we're going to see in the future like pssr 2.0 just came out today which is another machine learning algorithm that is going to be doing some of this work to sharpen and to to give you more frames and to give you a better fidelity thing like everyone is using this technology in some form or fashion you're just not potentially seeing it in the same ways and it's going to be something where it's going to be under the hood so much that you're not even going to think about it when it gets to that level two to three years from now so i i appreciate the fact that people are standing up for the artist which we should all do standing up for people not losing their jobs which you should all do but again people complain and fuss about a thing but they're going to use it.

33:47They're going to, I don't see people in mass being like, I'm never going to use this technology as making this thing that I want to play that much easier to play or that much better looking when people still complain about the, the uncanny Valley and wanting to move away from visual aesthetic and, and stylized artistic views. But like, this isn't going to work on a game that's like mouse PI, right? Like it won't work on some of that stuff. You won't even use it for that stuff. you're looking for photorealism and the stylized art doesn't isn't going for realism in those ways so i don't think this kills the baby in this crib but i do think it gives another option for things that are the places that are most lifelike and most human-like will get a bump in texture resolution or get a bump in visual fidelity in a way that might be kind of cool but we crap on everything so then we don't get a chance to see it in there and again nvidia is going to move forward without us or not.

34:40They're not going to not do it. It just makes sense for them in a business model perspective, but it will then be on you as a consumer to decide if you actually want to engage with it, learn about it and understand it, or just turtle and say, this is all terrible because they look like they put an AI filter on it. I don't understand that. It doesn't make sense to me. Um, but we've seen that be the, the telltale thing for, for multiple people in multiple ways all over the place. So I'm like, okay, that's cool and all, but doesn't really do anything in the, in the, in the, in the, in the grand scheme.

35:16Um, we're going to take a quick break, uh, and talk more about stuff that I've been playing, which has been so good. I've been playing a ton of dope stuff this past week and over the past couple of weeks. Um, and have just been blowing through games and trying to get through games because they have been coming in hot and heavy left and right all over the place. So I'm very excited to get to our next segment, but we're going to take a quick two minute break. Hang out. Thank everybody in the chat for coming through. Thank you all for listening at home. And we'll be right back after this. Hey there.

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36:31First up on what we've been playing for this episode of Spawn on Me, I got the pleasure to go over to the Capcom offices in San Francisco to go play a couple of fantastic titles that we know are coming up. First up, I got a chance to check out a new run, a new build of Pragmata. Pragmata is the Capcom game where you are this gentleman who is ushering and kind of, you know, keeping this young girl safe who has these kind of robot powers. It's like almost a small wonder if you remember that show from the early 90s. And, you know, it's this kind of puzzle based action action game, which is really, really fun.

37:28I got a chance to play some of it earlier in Summer Games Fest a couple, maybe a year ago. And I've been waiting to see more about what this game is going to wind up being. and every time i come to it it feels even better it feels super fun it feels fast it feels interesting there's a lot of really dope nuanced kind of of gameplay elements to it um and we got a chance to play this thing for about two hours or so um playing a new level where we got a chance to check out uh this like really dope boss fight uh where you're kind of unlocking these six levels throughout your run and then heading to this much bigger space to fight this to fight this boss i know a lot of folks have been wondering about like is this game going to be dope is it going to be fun you know do people really dig it is it going to be something where we're going to have a chance to to really you know connect with the character in a way that feels good you know graphically it is beautiful it is stunning it is one of the best looking capcom games and Capcom continues to have, you know, really smart and fun elements to what they bring to the table.

38:40I think what always makes me excited is getting a chance to see games early, but also getting a chance to be able to play through some of the, you know, earlier builds where you're kind of getting your wits about you, about how you want to kind of tackle these uh, particular encounters. And it winds up being something where the balance between gameplay and between, um, story has been really fun to watch kind of happen. Um, at first I was thinking like, oh, well, you know, this is going to be one of those kinds of budget Capcom games that doesn't really have a lot of legs to it. Um, but getting to see not only the, the, the visual storytelling and how they are building upon this new world where you're in this section of the game, where you're in this kind of faux New York and having to balance out combat with this kind of puzzle element is really cool.

39:44I've not seen a game like this yet. I think they've done a really fun job of bringing together a ton of different elements that speak to how you make a game like this. And you can see like when you're fighting these robots, your whole kind of role is to piece together a route to get to the ending of a sequence. In between those sequences, they have these different nodes that can give you buffs, give you abilities to do more damage, give you abilities to heal, to do other parts of combat that aren't just normal shooting. So when you wind up getting to a part where you have ended out the loop of a node, you then take down or open up a piece of that enemy's body to reveal a soft spot that you are able to do more damage on the the bots that you're shooting um each each weapon has multiple shooting uh or almost has multiple shooting uh abilities but what you're trying to do is combine the elements of weapons that you have because you usually have three that you can choose from and one you know is potentially trying to lock down an area where you want to do some area of effect kind of damage.

41:12Another could be like almost like a sniper where you're using it to do like pinpoint damage that goes through multiple enemies. There are some where you're looking to use like almost a stasis kind of weapon on some of the bots that you wind up seeing. I'm going to fast forward through some of the footage to get you to the big part. but there are these multiple weird super weird enemies i'm like half babies have have humans like really weird elements of design where it's not like um a from software-esque kind of vibe but capcom has done a really good job of course you know with their pedigree of um um uh resident evil kinds of enemies and all those kinds of things where they've done a really good job of balancing out creepy and interesting and fun and you know um kind of breakneck almost decision making that you have to do while having these these fights it winds up making the the the combat really interesting because you're almost playing a game within a game which is cool and you don't see that in a lot of different titles out in the world it winds up being fun where like even in this moment here where you get a chance to see like that enemy sat a rocket at me and i basically rerouted it back to the enemy uh with the ability to hit a very specific node within the grouping that was there i really am hyped for pragmata i think it's a game that i have you know wasn't really high on my list until i got a chance to check it out at summer games Fest.

42:55But now that I'm playing it, or now that I had a chance to play it, it might be one of my most anticipated games of the year. I think it won't be a game that is going to take a long time to complete. It doesn't feel like a game that is going to waste your time. It feels like it's going to respect your time in a lot of different ways. And it feels like there's going to be a ton of exploration in this game that's going to be a lot of fun, while giving you some really cool moments to be able to like learn about the story, learn about the world, learn about, you know, all of those kind of elements coming together.

43:32And the time that I've had with it has been super, super fun. I'm dying to hear more about what this character is going to be. TDH in the chat asks about replayability. I think what you'll probably wind up seeing is something to the effect of multiple difficulty levels where you'll have to go through the nodes faster to be able to get to the damage phases for some of this stuff. And these boss battles are not easy. Like, they actually are really, really smartly done because you're having to do, as you can see on screen, multiple button presses, multiple dodges. you're trying to figure out the best ways to get to the routing to open up those pieces on the monsters to be able to get the extra damage i think you'll see some probably like time uh attack kind of stuff where you're trying to do that stuff in the fastest time available and you know they'll probably definitely make the the enemies harder to kill those kinds of things i think that stuff is always going to be um something that that is going to be a lot of fun and is going to bring something very special to the table for a game that is a new IP, a game that is something that has been kind of just thought of in this way as a new, almost game type and almost a new kind of genre, because it's not a puzzler.

45:02And it's not just straight action. It's like a super weird mix of both. But every time I got a chance to play with it, I've come back impressed. And I feel like it's going to be a game that is going to potentially get some good marks when it winds up dropping. And it's going to be something that I think a lot of people are going to really dig once they get their hands on with it. While I was also at the Capcom offices, I got a chance to check out Alex, who just was dropped today. Street Fighter VI. I'm a big fighting game fan. Alex, you know, coming from the old games that were in the previous parts of the IP.

45:39getting a chance to play him he's super fun like he's super cool uh i like him a lot he's a he's like a grappler mixed with a with a wrestler with a with a battler he's he's really fun he feels heavy when you play with him he feels like a monster when you're like pushing through and getting into those fights where he has really good pokes but he has like really strong normals uh so you're playing a little bit of a strategy game where you're really trying to balance out his ability to get in will also keep away. So he's both a keep away and a rush down character in a lot of different, um, aspects, which is a thing that you kind of see, but you don't see that often, um, in, in the street fighter space, it was fun to get his, getting some, some hands on time with him, uh, and playing through, uh, that particular game, which is a ton of fun.

46:28I had a blast with that in a, in a real way. Another game that I got a chance to check out here in Portland. Actually, I got a chance to go to the panic offices who are, uh, publishing this game called a big walk. A big walk is really fun. It is almost like another kind of, um, uh, big open world, almost like, um, uh, uh, what do you call those rooms? Not a panic room, a puzzle room where you go in and you kind of be in these big spaces together with four of your friends. So it was me, my homie, Mary Kish, over on Twitch and two of my other homies. Escape room. That's what I was looking for. Escape room.

47:19Thank you, TD. It feels like a big escape room that we were playing in. We're in this huge area, in this huge open world, and you don't really get a ton of instruction. You're really kind of walking through the process of figuring out where you want to go and where you want to be and how do you want those things to kind of look and where you're trying to coordinate because you can talk in game through your headsets, through your microphones. But you're really these kind of weird, almost bird people who are walking through this space. You're leaving notes for each other. You have these big balls of light that you're able to use to kind of guide your way.

48:04There are no, excuse me, there are no checkpoints. You're not really kind of putting markers on the ground. You're really looking at the environment and trying to figure out where to go so that you can all accomplish and complete these tasks within the game. And we spent probably like, I think, two hours playing this at the offices. what's super cool is this is a game where you can play with four players you can play i think from two to 12 players in the game um and what's awesome is all of you can kind of spread out and go in different directions you're not really tied to each other there is no like rubber banding where you go to go too far and go to a space and you all kind of have to stay in in proximity to each other.

48:56Like there was a moment in the, in, in our, in our run where we were going super far away from each other. We were going in totally different directions. And we were moving throughout the map and going into all these different spots. And you really are off on your own. You can go whichever way you want. And you are looking for various things. You're looking for keys to open up these boxes. You're looking for ways to finish these puzzles that are that are bigger than you can jump on each other's bodies and kind of make the a tall version of yourself to uh you know reach higher places you're looking at you know ways to accomplish these puzzles and what happens is what makes it super dope is that you're scaling the missions or scaling the puzzles based on how many people are in the session.

49:49So there were some, because we're in a four, a four person session that you needed all four, four people to be able to complete that one particular, um, uh, mission. If there were just two people, it would make that mission shorter or make that a task shorter and lower to the ground. So like we had to do this thing where we had to jump on each other's backs or shoulders, I should say, and jump up and hit this puzzle, like this part, this part right here. so it took all four of us to be able to go there now you could do this multiple ways you can throw the ball up there and hit that button and knock the thing down you can do uh you know jump on each other's shoulders um but they would be smaller and shorter if it was only two people so it's really smart in the way that they played this and the way you kind of work together as a team to be able to make this happen um and it's just super fun like you had just a vibe session Like this was one of the most fun things I got in a chance to play in a while because it wind up being something where you weren't really trying to game plan in the same ways that you think like there isn't a competition layer to this.

50:59It is all very cooperative and you're all trying to figure out the best ways to accomplish this goal and accomplish these tasks. and being able to do so in a way that felt fun, in a way that felt new, in a way that when you finished one of those tasks, you felt really accomplished and smart was super cool. It was really dope to be able to see, you know, all of those pieces kind of come together all at once and feel like you are doing something that felt really special, which was cool. And there were moments in it too where not only were you kind of doing tasks and kind of just looking at the world and doing stuff you know like this section right here where we were playing and kind of painting each other's bodies and your body colors were changed but there were moments in it where it was it was completely just a vibe uh and we were chilling and hanging out and just like watching the sunset and and like listening to music together and hanging out like this part right here actually was was was super dope like we were just hanging out we had gotten this key uh to go do this thing and then we just went to go hang out and chill out by the ocean and just chill and it was great it was awesome it was like camping but in the video game without dirt and without bugs and without weird things in the in the the jungle not jungle in the forest trying to eat your face so it was really cool i'm really excited for it i think panic as a company continues to make really dope stuff.

52:27They continue to work with so many dope, uh, dope, uh, developers. You know, those folks made the play date, uh, they worked on and worked with a company who made, thank goodness you're here, which is one of my favorite games in the past couple of years. They've made a ton of really awesome and super fun stuff in that mix. And I'm just dying to see more games like this. I think games like this continue to bring something very special to the world and bring a new version of collective storytelling, collective kind of memory making and are just really awesome experiences to kind of work through.

53:03I think this would be a really fun game to play with folks in the Spawn of Me world. You know, folks in Burkago who would be really dope to kind of play this thing once it drops. It'll be on PlayStation. I know. I don't know if it's going to any other platforms, but I know it'll probably be on PC and it'll definitely be on PlayStation. So it was, it was a blast playing that thing and getting some time in with it and, and rocking with it. The last game that I do want to talk about that was also at GDC. And I forgot to talk about was this game called hit them up high rise. The reason why I like this game is because it has a character who looks like this.

53:41It is a beat them up brawler with action hero analogs, that if you are an 80s or 90s kid, you absolutely know immediately. So there's characters who look like Shonuf. There's a character who looks like Bolo from Enter the Dragon. There's a character who I played with who looked like Wesley Snipes in Demolition Man. It is so dope that they are going for all of the cheekiness in this title by using these visual analogs for a style that makes sense and for a genre that makes a ton of sense it is one of the coolest things i got a chance to play in a very long time and i was vibing off this thing super hard let me see if i can find the part so i picked i picked the show enough dude first and then i switched it's because i wanted to see what the wesley snipes looking dude looks like um and he looks exactly like wessie snipes from uh demolition man he has the overalls he has the green hair um almost like a side-scrolling double dragon scott pilgrim s kind of game i think there's probably two people on screen at a time i don't think it's going to be four because the sprites are really big on screen and the the characters are fairly big on screen but I had a blast with this thing.

55:12This was probably my sleeper hit of, of, of GDC. Yeah. This thing was in here too. I don't know if they're going to keep that in there. I mean, it was a thing that happened in a demolition man. So we'll see how that plays for, for, for the community. If you're not watching the chat here in real, in real time while we're doing the recording, it was like, Hey, yo, in the chat um but i love the way that they've done this thing where they've given this character their own kind of space to to live and also it just feels really like cool to see people pay homage to characters that we grew up in and loved in the action genre uh and be really dope in these ways it's so cool to be able to see people continue to make really awesome titles like this because stuff like this doesn't get made anymore.

56:09It doesn't happen in those same ways like we used to see. It winds up being something where we get new versions of stuff, but they don't really speak to the history of those particular kinds of titles. So, you know, it was a really dope time at GDC. I had a blast checking out a ton of games. I am still playing through a bunch of stuff right now. I'm still going through my time with Crimson Desert because that game is hefty. Marathon has stolen my life. I'm playing Marathon almost every night at this point, trying to get better and trying to get, you know, more loot in those spaces, playing a bunch of other stuff that I can't talk about yet.

56:52But it was really, really good. Crimson Desert is, I can't say, actually, I just was about to say things and I can't say it because I'm still on a embargo, damn it. But I'm playing it. But I did say on our on my social channels uh today we will not be having a review on launch i do want to see about getting a copy for a console it's going to be on xbox play anywhere it's going to be in game pass i believe so i'll be able to check it out on there i'm going to try to see if i can get it on playstation 5 pro so we can check out the pssr 2 stuff that's in there um but i'm excited to see more about what this game is going to be.

57:30I feel like I'm already learning a ton of things about it and around it. Um, and, uh, I'm just having a blast with the stuff that I've been able to play of late. I've jumped back into WWE, uh, 2k 26, which is really good. Uh, they just had a conversation around star field and their new, uh, content that's coming up. We had a preview of that as well. We saw a bunch of that a couple of days ago. They just announced also that it's coming to PS5. there's a lot of really dope stuff in the mix that's happening right now and also oh there's one other thing there was um we have been doing some fun things uh with our friends over at gunner gunner glasses they sent over their spider-man miles morales set um which is maybe that'll maybe that'll focus on it it'll potentially will focus on it okay there we go maybe it won't um but they sent over their miles morales set from their gunner uh line and i've been a big fan of gunner gear for a long period of time i love this this thing because it has let's see if i can focus it it has like the webbing on the bridge of the nose they've done a really cool thing with the design on this one i'll try to see if i can get it to focus um but this is great i love gunner gear because they do you know the things that i need from glasses like this of course they block blue light um they have a really fantastic feel like the the the tines feel really good the bridge feels like these are really like almost kind of close enough to to my glasses so it has that really um great tint to it so when i'm watching and playing games or why or you know on my phone a ton um i'm able to kind of uh not have my eyes be strained a lot excuse me they're really dope and they're not that expensive they're like 60 bucks for a pair what i also love about gun and glasses that you can get prescription lenses in these glasses now so you if you're looking for a really dope styling for your for your glasses i'm going to see if i can if i can pull it in again real tight um and you're a big fan of spider-man the miles morales versions of these glasses are really really dope like let me see if i can show you the back of these really really fast too so like you see you can get like dope webbing on on the sides of it um i love these these are really cool they're also um bringing out a set for the fallout series so they've done some some glasses for the Fallout series.

1:00:07Again, shout out to our friends over at Gunner for hooking us up. We had some Overwatch versions that they sent like last year. And now this version with the Spider-Man kind of motif on it is super dope. And again, before we get up out of here, I gotta get a big shout out to our friends over at GB Studio for Studio Magazine for sponsoring this episode of Spawn On Me. Hoping to do more with them next month and do some more with them. Uh, and again, if you're looking to get, uh, some of the goodies, uh, from them, we'll have links to, uh, where you can go check that stuff out in the show notes for the show.

1:00:46That was a lot of discussing. That was a lot of talking. Uh, I want to thank you all for rocking with me this week and every week, as always, uh, we're trying to get more of the shows out in the hopper. Last week was crazy. Cause I was at GDC recording a bunch of stuff. Um, so we're going to try to be uh more timely with with weekly episodes but there's going to be multiple episodes coming out very very soon because uh i have an interview with the friends from uh poppy playtime uh that fantastic awesome uh horror game got a really dope interview with them that we're going to be putting up or probably space amount we'll put it out on on monday um and then we have another one uh for this really great um a group of folks who if you're really a fan of rock band and you have some of your old rock band gear in the closet somewhere in your garage there's going to be a new version of a game like that coming out hopefully by the end of the year that we're going to be talking to them about we're going to be doing an interview tomorrow with them I lost the interview during GDC I got some corrupted files or something like that and I freaked it out so we're going to redo that interview this week and that'll be coming out in a couple of weeks as well alongside we're talking to our friends over at Asus to talk about the new dope Kojima laptop talking to them about coming on the show to talk about some of their gear and a lot of different stuff in the upcoming weeks.

1:02:11Checking out a lot of stuff. We're going to have the folks from Ball and Gun Game who have been watching my social media channels. That blew up to almost 2 million views. It's almost at 3 million views now on the channel. So lots of dope stuff coming alongside some more reviews, alongside more guests, alongside more conversations around the gaming industry and all the dope stuff in it. So until then, much love to you all. I hope you are having a wonderful week. Go Venezuela. I hope they bring it home. Go Knicks and New Day sucks. We'll see you all soon. Shout out to Obafemi. Oh my God. I want him to beat Brock Lesnar's ass.

1:02:50Anyway, much love to you all. Have a wonderful rest of your week. Until we see you, let's play some marathon together. Let's play some other stuff together. I'll see you soon. And peace! Thank you.