Things You Thought You Knew – Sonic BOOM!

24 Mar 2026 · 40 min · 23 chapters

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In short

Episode topic: “Things You Thought You Knew – Sonic BOOM!” plus a second segment on day/night temperatures and meteorological wind (with brief unit-conversion and “-40” Celsius/Fahrenheit discussion).

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript; the hosts are Neil deGrasse Tyson and Chuck (co-host/producer).

Key claims

  1. Sonic booms happen when an object moves faster than the speed of sound; sound can’t propagate ahead, so it forms a compressed “wall”/cone behind the craft that hits observers later.
  2. “Mach 1” is the speed of sound; beyond that, sound lags and compresses into a boom.
  3. Daytime temperatures lag because sunlight heats the ground, which then re-radiates infrared that warms the air later; deserts swing more because water vapor greenhouse trapping is absent.
  4. Wind is driven by unequal heating causing pressure differences; rising air leads to lateral inflow to fill the partial vacuum.

Notable examples

  • Concorde (Europe) vs. lack of U.S. supersonic commercial flights due to sonic-boom concerns.
  • Salisbury Cathedral story: acoustic engineers allegedly found sonic-boom energy and organ low notes were more vibration-relevant.
  • Whip “crack” as a small sonic event.
  • Hurricanes (low pressure center), doldrums (descending air), and Mars dust storms (thin atmosphere limits wind effects).

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Chapters

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Understanding Sonic Booms

0:00 to 0:13

Learn about the mechanics of sonic booms and how sound travels.

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Understanding Sonic Booms

2:24 to 4:10

Learn about the mechanics of sonic booms and how sound travels.

“The stuff you thought you knew, but you didn't know.”

The Speed of Sound and Mach

4:10 to 6:46

Explore the concept of Mach speed and its implications for sound.

“Now, suppose the plane flew a little faster.”

Consequences of Supersonic Flight

6:46 to 10:10

Discuss the implications of flying faster than sound, including sonic booms.

“And on the edge of that is all the sound that would have spread out through space ahead of you.”

The Salisbury Cathedral Story

10:10 to 11:34

A story about the effect of sonic booms on historical buildings.

“So the concern was you're having a nice peaceful afternoon, a picnic, and then sonic booms are just coming across.”

Shockwaves and Their Effects

11:34 to 13:20

Understand the relationship between sonic booms and shockwaves.

“Now, it could be apocryphal, but it's a fun story.”

Light Booms Explained

13:20 to 14:01

Learn about the concept of light booms and their similarities to sonic booms.

“Well, you know, a light boom, you know, in production is a stand that you hang a light on.”

Light Booms Explained

15:57 to 16:44

Learn about the concept of light booms and their similarities to sonic booms.

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Light Booms Explained

16:51 to 18:03

Learn about the concept of light booms and their similarities to sonic booms.

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Light Booms Explained

18:11 to 18:22

Learn about the concept of light booms and their similarities to sonic booms.

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Understanding Solar Heating

18:50 to 21:01

Explore why the hottest time of day is not when the sun is highest.

“What time of day is the sun the highest in the sky?”

The Science of Infrared Light

21:01 to 24:32

Discuss the concept of infrared light and its effects on temperature.

“So the sun emits infrared, which we can't see.”

Desert Temperature Dynamics

24:32 to 28:00

Learn why deserts have extreme temperature variations.

“Do you know what the predominant number one greenhouse molecule in the atmosphere is?”

Understanding Daytime and Nighttime Temperatures

28:00 to 29:59

Learn why temperature variations occur between day and night in different climates.

“Yeah, be like 76 in the daytime and maybe 68 at night.”

The Intersection of Fahrenheit and Celsius

30:00 to 31:58

Discover the unique point where Fahrenheit and Celsius scales converge.

“This is like the temperature during the day.”

The Intersection of Fahrenheit and Celsius

31:59 to 33:35

Discover the unique point where Fahrenheit and Celsius scales converge.

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The Intersection of Fahrenheit and Celsius

33:56 to 35:25

Discover the unique point where Fahrenheit and Celsius scales converge.

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Meteorological Wind Origins

35:39 to 36:13

Discuss the scientific principles behind the formation of wind.

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The Science of Hurricanes and Doldrums

36:14 to 42:05

Understand the dynamics of hurricanes and the phenomenon of the doldrums.

“Where does meteorological wind come from?”

Exploring the Doldrums and Mars

42:05 to 48:35

Learn about the phenomenon of the Doldrums and how Mars' atmosphere affects wind patterns.

“So, descending air is like generally clear skies.”

Humor and Insights about Venus

48:44 to 49:21

Engage with humorous comparisons between Venus' heat and the concept of hell.

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Humor and Insights about Venus

49:51 to 50:43

Engage with humorous comparisons between Venus' heat and the concept of hell.

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Humor and Insights about Venus

50:51 to 51:20

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1:54Neil deGrasse Tyson:Hello StarTalkians, Neil here. Coming up, we have another Things You Thought You Knew episode. This time, we're talking about sonic booms, day and night temperatures, and wind. Check it out. Welcome to StarTalk. your place in the universe where science and pop culture collide. StarTalk begins right now. I've come to shed some more light on that which is mysterious in this world. Yes, yes. The stuff you thought you knew, but you didn't know. That's who thought you knew. So I just thought I'd talk about sonic booms. Okay. What do you think of that? I love that. Nobody doesn't love a sonic boom. Nobody doesn't love a sonic boom.

2:41It's one of the best, most popular video games. That's Sonic. That's Sonic. That's Sonic. I tell you, that hedgehog, he is something else.

2:49Neil deGrasse Tyson:So we can talk about Sonic Boom. So here you go. Ready? So let's take an airplane. That's a good choice here. And generally, airplanes make noise. And so you'll hear the noise, and you'll look up, and you see the plane coming. Right. And then receding. All right. The fact that you heard the plane and looked up and then you see it approaching means the sound got to you ahead of the plane. Okay, yes. Right? The plane is not where you are yet. It's down the road a bit, right? That's true. So you hear it. So the sound is going at the speed of sound. And in regular air, they call it 700 miles an hour.

3:35Neil deGrasse Tyson:It's around there. 700 miles an hour and the plane is still in like what four something yeah five 500 miles an hour so the sound is emanating in front of the plane relative to the plane at 200 miles an hour nice okay all right not a problem no this is very easy we can this is not hard to understand all right so let's ask the question because by the way the 700 miles an hour is the speed of sound in air. Right. And typical sort of sea level type air. All right. That's the speed of sound. Now, suppose the plane flew a little faster. Let's let it go 600 miles an hour. Okay. All right. Well, the sound going in front of it is now moving in front at only 100 miles an hour faster.

4:24Neil deGrasse Tyson:Right. Because it's not going to increase because it's the speed of sound. Sound in air. In air. Okay, so what that means is the plane will be a little closer to you before you notice that it's there. Right. Okay, because it didn't have a chance to get too far ahead, all right? Because the plane is like right coming up behind it. But it's still moving away from it at 100 miles an hour. That's still pretty fast. Okay. That's fast. How about 650 miles an hour? So now, wait a minute. Now it's only, okay, how about 680 miles an hour? 690. 90. Wait a minute. What happens if you go 700 miles an hour?

5:04Neil deGrasse Tyson:What happens to the sound you're trying to emit in front of you? Well, you can't emit. It's right with you. It's right with you. It is with you. So here's the sound you're trying to push forward and it's moving forward. It's 700 miles an hour, but so are you. So that plane approaches you. You don't even know it's there. You don't even know to turn around and notice it. Right. Until it is directly overhead. And then the sound hits you and the light from the plane hits you. And there you are. You say, oh, there's a plane overhead. Right. Well, it's right there above you. Let's keep going. Let's not stop there.

5:48Neil deGrasse Tyson:Now have a go 750 miles an hour, 800 miles an hour. Oh, by the way, we have words for this. If you go to the speed of sound, Mach 1. Nice. So now you have punched through this, quote, sound barrier. It's not really a barrier, but we used to think it was one. You punch through, and now the sound lags behind. Right. All right. So now the faster you go beyond Mach 1, Mach 2 would be how fast? Twice the speed of sound. Twice the speed of sound. So 1 ,400, 1 ,500. If you go twice as fast, then you are leaving the sound behind you. Right. And all the sound that you are making is now snow plowed into this cone that comes out away from your vessel.

6:41So it's like your plane made a wake of nothing that is being filled with the sound that you left behind.

6:48Neil deGrasse Tyson:Correct. And on the edge of that is all the sound that would have spread out through space ahead of you. And now it's all compressed behind you. Oh. And so now that plane flies overhead. You don't know it's there. Right. As a matter of fact, you won't know it's there because it didn't make a sound. It didn't.

7:17Neil deGrasse Tyson:Brilliant, Chuck. You're a fast study there. So there it is directly overhead. You don't even know to look up. Right. And it goes because it's well ahead of the sound it's making. So where's the sound it's making? Well, it's way behind. And it's all been snow plowed into this wall of sound moving forward at the speed of sound. Wow. So the plane is now downstream from you. And you say, hmm, that's odd. That didn't make a sound. Bam! The sonic boom hits you. It's, oh, it's all the, it's like the, like the big ball of sound. It's a wall of sound. It's a wall of sound. It's compressed because the plane left it behind.

8:05Neil deGrasse Tyson:And all the sound that it would have made that you would have heard ahead of it is now all behind it in a wall. And it all got plowed into itself. That, as it passes over you, is a sonic boom. Oh, man. And the higher up the plane is, the more delayed that is the sonic boom. You'll come up here, sonic boom, look up, where's the plane? It was way down, way downstream. Now, so turns out anything that goes faster than sound will make a sonic boom. Okay. So it turns out a whip, the crack of a whip. Okay. Is the tip of the whip moving faster than the speed of sound. Oh, sweet. It's a mini sonic boom.

8:47Neil deGrasse Tyson:We used to do in the locker room, you get like a rat tail with a towel. With a towel. So the sonic boom comes about. So the material, this would be true with a whip as well, as it flings forward and you start retracting it before it fully flings forward. And the rapid change of direction there is the thing moving just faster than the speed of sound. And you hear a crack. It's very small. It's a sonic crack. not a sonic boom so so that's what a sonic boom is and i love me some sonic boons but um we you know we had the no we did we've never had a commercial a commercial supersonic plane in the united states but europe did and you know what that was uh that french plane the french plane yeah the concord sst yes and that was a collaboration i think with england and so it would fly to London and to Paris to New York.

9:44Neil deGrasse Tyson:But we didn't have one of those planes. Right. We didn't have, so how are we going to compete with that? Here's what we do. We say, we don't like sonic booms over our residences. So if you want to fly your plane over continental United States, you have to fly subsonic. Well, what's the point? What's the point of that? Right. Okay. So you didn't have these planes going to LA. They all went to New York basically. Right. And, And it would have been great if we can all fly supersonically. So the concern was you're having a nice peaceful afternoon, a picnic, and then sonic booms are just coming across.

10:17Neil deGrasse Tyson:I think the novelty would probably wear off quickly, is my sense of this. Now, a quick little story before we end. There's the Salisbury Cathedral. I think this is a true story. I read about it long ago, but I haven't seen more written about it. So I don't know. Maybe it's apocryphal. the salisbury cathedral one of the oldest cathedrals in the world has one of the oldest clocks in the world and i visited that when i visited stonehenge when i was a kid because the stonehenge is in the salisbury plains of southwest england so anyhow the royal air force is a very underpopulated area so the royal air force was doing maneuvers there and there were sonic booms that they were making all the time conservatives were worried conservators were worried that these sonic booms would jiggle the cathedral and and damage it okay so we got some acoustic engineers that did some measurements and sure enough there's serious sonic boom energy coming into the cathedral and then someone said gee i wonder how much vibration comes from lower c on their organ on their pipe organ so they tested the low notes on the pipe organ and it was more energetic than And the sonic boom is coming across.

11:31Neil deGrasse Tyson:So that was the end of that conversation right there. Okay. Now, it could be apocryphal, but it's a fun story. What it means is just in general, if you think something is causing something, look for anything else that could swamp that effect. And if you find something that does, then formulate another question. So now, when a sonic boom of a meteor coming into our atmosphere. That's why you'll never know. People say, oh, look, here it comes. No, you don't know until it's too late. until it already hits. So is it the boom that is breaking windows or is it the movement of air itself? Because it just - It's the same thing.

12:07It's the same thing. It's a shockwave. It's still a shockwave.

12:10Neil deGrasse Tyson:It's a shockwave. That's correct. Wow. And you know something else? It's really cool. Okay. Okay. You know, the speed of light drops when it goes into transparent, solid materials. So speed of light is lower in glass. It's even lower in diamond. Right. Okay. Now, suppose you have a particle that you send through that material that goes faster than the speed of light. Because you can do that. There's no rule against it, all right? It's not my fault the light is slow. That's not my fault. I'm obeying Einstein. I don't care that we're in glass or in diamond or in water, okay? So it turns out when particles do that, they make a kind of sonic boom of their own, but it's not sonic, it's light.

12:54Neil deGrasse Tyson:A light boom. Yeah, it's a light boom. Oh. It's a light boom. Well, that sounds delightful. And so it's a similar phenomenon, but it's happening sort of electromagnetically. And it emits its own kind of radiation for having done so. So it's a more general phenomenon and a principle. Shock waves, it's all part of the same discussion of going faster than the medium wants you to go. And there you have it. That's very cool. Well, you know, a light boom, you know, in production is a stand that you hang a light on. I guess so. That's a really boring version of the definition of the word. I was going to say that, like, your light booms are way better than mine.

13:39Way cooler than the sound guy's booms. Right. Right, right, right.

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18:49Chuck.

18:50Neil deGrasse Tyson:Yes. What time of day is the sun the highest in the sky? Oh, I don't know. High noon. High noon. Yeah. High noon. And unless it's daylight savings time and then it's like one o 'clock. Okay. What's the hottest time of day? normally around three o 'clock why isn't it when the sun is at its highest why are you doing this to me i'm just trying to what is this why are you grilling me no let me think here um when the sun is at its highest point in the sky it is maximally heating the earth in that well then that makes sense because if it's at that point that it starts to maximally heat the earth, then it would take a little longer for the earth to actually, no, that don't make no sense.

19:39I take it back. I'm trying to think here.

19:43Neil deGrasse Tyson:Why would it be? Because every moment after that, it's heating the earth less. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Until sunset, when it's not heating the earth at all. Not your side of the earth, at least. Right. So, okay. So I'm going to explain. Well, so my explanation was correct. Okay, yeah. But not for why. Not for why. Yes, but no. Yes, but no. I got you. All right, here it goes. It was a valiant effort. Okay. The sun emits a lot of bands of light, but primarily emits light in the visible part of the spectrum. And we all know that those are the colors of the rainbow. Yes. One of my favorite stories, and it's not a story.

20:19One of my favorite recountings that you have done, and I believe you did on the first season of Cosmos, was the scientist who was measuring the light and then outside of the spectrum that he was recording, there was a temperature change. And he knew then because of that that there had to be a light that we don't know or see that is making this change.

20:45Neil deGrasse Tyson:I love that. I just love that recounting. And he said it in his very sort of 18th century flurry, called it light unfit for vision. Light unfit for vision. Isn't that cool? Yeah. So he discovered infrared light and it was William Herschel who did that. William Herschel. Yes. Yeah. All right. So here's the thing. So the sun emits infrared, which we can't see. It emits ultraviolet, which we can't see. And both of those are bands of light outside of the bands we do see. So it's red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet. All right. Roy G. BIV. And the sun peaks right there in the middle between yellow and green.

21:22Neil deGrasse Tyson:So more energy comes from the sun right there in yellow and green than in any other part of the spectrum. The fact that you can see the sun through the atmosphere means the air is not absorbing any of that energy. Well, if the air is not, because you can see the sun, it got through the atmosphere To the bottom, to the base of the atmosphere where your eyeballs are. So, you know what? So, the light comes all the way through. It's not getting absorbed by the atmosphere. It hits the ground and the ground absorbs the sunlight, not the air. Okay. So, now the ground absorbs the yellow light and the green light and the blue light and the red light, absorbs it all.

22:12Neil deGrasse Tyson:that heats the molecules on Earth's surface. Then the molecules re-radiate that same energy, but in a different part of the spectrum. Interesting. It re-radiates it as infrared. Wow. And the infrared gets absorbed by the atmosphere. So there's a time delay. Right. Between when the sun is slamming us with a visible light and when earth's surface responds back with infrared heating the air. Now you put the thermometer in the air. You say, oh, the temperature is going up. Did it go up at high noon? No. No. Took a couple hours. Wow. For that to build. So, I have to see kids. This is why you got to go to school.

23:05Yeah. Okay. This is why you gotta go to school so that you can actually learn things the proper way to learn them. I'm not done yet.

23:12Neil deGrasse Tyson:Okay. Get out. So, if that's the case, that means the farther away you are from Earth's surface. Right. The cooler it's going to be. Right. You ever go from sea level to a mountaintop? Oh, God, yes. It's lovely. Okay. The temperature dropped. What a refreshing climb. Okay. You say, no, I've never hiked it. I'm taking a tram, but I'm not hiking it. So generally, it's cooler on mountaintops because it's farther away from the general Earth surface that's there. Not only that, if you go up in an airplane. Well, forget it. If you ever looked at the temperature gauge that sometimes they show in the front of the, you know, at the bulkhead, you'll see the temperature drop.

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23:55Neil deGrasse Tyson:It'd be 40 below zero. Yeah, exactly. Just a few miles up. Why is it so cold up there? Is it because you're closer to space? No. No. No, it's because you're farther away from where the sunlight is actually doing the heating, and that's right above the Earth's surface. In fact, in meteorology, there's a rule about how high above Earth's surface you have to put the thermometer so that everybody can get a consistent reading. Interesting. That makes sense. It's not directly above the ground. You've got to pull it up a little so there's some mixing of the air so that everybody can get a nice, consistent, sensible reading of the temperature.

24:29Neil deGrasse Tyson:I love that. I'm not done yet. Oh, get out! Okay, so now watch. Infrared. Do you know what traps infrared? Greenhouse gases. Do you know what the predominant number one greenhouse molecule in the atmosphere is? Water vapor. Water vapor. Yeah. The water molecule. Okay. So let's do an experiment. Let's take away the water molecules from where you are. There's a word for such places. What are they called? Deserts. Deserts. Thank you. So the temperature rises in mid-afternoon in the desert, then the sun sets. What happens to that heat that the ground had accumulated from the sun? It gets re-radiated as infrared.

25:17Neil deGrasse Tyson:Does it get trapped? No. It escapes. And the nighttime temperature in the desert plummets. Yes. And that is the weirdest thing about the desert is you will die of a sunstroke during the day and you will die of overexposure at night. Hypothermia at night. You got to be ready for a 40 degree range of temperature from maximum heating in the afternoon, maximum warming of the air, to when everything just radiates away. And by the way, when there's no sun, you're just losing heat. So therefore the coldest time of the day is when? um i'm going to say in the well the coldest time of the day of the 24 hour day when is it um 12 midnight or no o 'clock in the morning three o 'clock in the morning no no just before sunrise oh yeah because there's been no sun all that's been no sun it's been cooling off the whole time take a look at temperature plots all right exactly okay it'll peak in the mid-afternoon and it'll no matter where you are it'll do that and then it'll go to its lowest point just before sunrise.

26:27Neil deGrasse Tyson:And then the sun starts giving you the energy again. See, I got to stop overthinking things because I'm talking to you and I'll start overthinking. I get basic questions. I'm not trying to. These aren't trick questions. I know. Okay. But it's still, yeah, but you're right. Yeah. The sun has not been present all that time. It makes sense that just before the reappearance of the sun, that would be the coldest time. Correct. And I got to correct something that people have gotten wrong. Okay. They'll say, when is the darkest time of night? Just before the dawn. No, see, that's bullshit. Okay. That's bullshit.

27:04Neil deGrasse Tyson:Okay, sorry. All right. Anytime it is not twilight, you are basically equally as dark the entire night. No matter what. So you want to pick midnight if you want. Fine. All right. But that whole time, you are good to go. None of this, the darkest is just before dawn. Just before the dawn. Yeah, it's just bullshit. Right. Yeah, right. Exactly. That's why I say it's the darkest in the room just before I turn on the light. Well, it was dark that whole time before you turn on the light. Right. Exactly. Yeah. All right. So, but wait, I'm not done. There are certain places like Hawaii and Iceland where the range from the high to the low temperature in any 24 hour period is very narrow.

27:49Neil deGrasse Tyson:Check out the climate data for those two places. I know this for a fact, but go ahead. And so why? Oh, I don't know. I just used to stay in Hawaii for a bit. I spent a few months living there. Yeah, be like 76 in the daytime and maybe 68 at night. Yeah. You know, and so that's because they're in the middle of the oceans. And the ocean has very high humidity that stabilizes the flow of the heating between day and night. Oh, I got you. It slows it down. So I've done this even as a New York City resident. Okay. The way you want to minimize the temperature drop is you have a perfectly sunny day. Then at sunset, moist clouds come in.

28:38Neil deGrasse Tyson:Then they'll trap the heat. Hold the heat. They'll hold the heat overnight. That's hot. I mean, that's cool. I mean, that's great.

28:52Neil deGrasse Tyson:So this is why you get huge temperature swings in the deserts, why you don't in humid climates, the tropics, and of course in island nations. It's also why it's hotter a couple hours after the middle of the day than right at the middle of the day. And one other thing, the day of the year where the arc of the sun is longest and highest in the sky is the first day of summer, June 21st. That's right. Chuck, what is the hottest month of the year, at least in the Northern Hemisphere? August. Yeah, it's not June. It's not even really July. It's August. It's August. For the same reason, climactically, what goes on in a daytime cycle actually goes on in a seasonal cycle.

29:37Neil deGrasse Tyson:So, wow. You have maximum ground heating in June, but there's a lag between the ground heating and the ground responding to this. And seasonally, that takes a couple of months to build. Not to mention the ocean temperatures in those areas, too. It's also delayed. Right. Also delayed. Super cool, man. There you have it. I thought this was going to be a boring one. I did. This is great. I don't want to let you down here. I didn't title this one. This is like the temperature during the day. Okay, we need a better title than the temperature during the day. Right, right. And why it's cold when you're up in it.

30:20Neil deGrasse Tyson:How about fun with Fahrenheit? Oh, I like that. Fun with Fahrenheit. Fun with Fahrenheit. And like I said, when you're in an airplane, you're so far away from the ground, the ground had no chance of heating the air you're flying in. Right. And so it could be 40 below up at five miles up where you're flying at 30 ,000 feet. And one final thought. Go ahead. Okay. Do you know the temperature, the Fahrenheit and Celsius temperature scales? Correct. They're different, right? But do you know they actually cross on a graph? I did not know that. Okay. Because I thought they were running parallel. Yeah, they're not parallel.

30:59Neil deGrasse Tyson:No, Celsius is parallel to Kelvin, but Celsius is not parallel to Fahrenheit. So for example, what is it? Boiling water is what Fahrenheit? 212. And it's 100 Celsius. What's the degree difference between those? 112 degrees. 112 degrees. On Celsius, what temperature does water freeze? Zero. On Fahrenheit, what temperature does it freeze? Oh, 32. So what's the temperature difference there? That's only 32 degrees. So the difference between Celsius and Fahrenheit is shrinking as you get colder. Colder. Ah. Okay. There is a temperature where if you plotted this, those two graphs cross. Cross? That makes sense.

31:42Neil deGrasse Tyson:Which means at that temperature, they're equal each other numerically. And that temperature is exactly 40 below. Nice! So when I say, oh, it's 40 below, and you say, oh, was it Fahrenheit or temperature? I might just mess with your head and say, doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. So cold doesn't matter. does gotta matter and then i say do the math and there's a little formula to convert fahrenheit to celsius and if you put in one temperature you get the other if you put in 40 for one of them but minus 40 minus 40 comes out the other side so it's an equation at that point that gives you the same answer going in as coming out it's very cool yo man i'm getting a t-shirt that says i'm 40 below because I'm cool anywhere, baby.

32:23I'm cool Celsius or Fahrenheit. I'm ice cold anywhere. All right.

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35:50Ask me where Wynn comes from. Oh, I know. It's my uncle. And, uh,

35:59dude thinks it's funny. He's kind of rude. Doesn't make a difference if we're at the table or not. It's terrible. Doesn't apologize or nothing. Doesn't apologize or nothing. Sometimes he's proud of it. Not cool. Not cool.

36:15Neil deGrasse Tyson:Not cool. Okay. Ask me about meteorological wind. Oh, okay. Where does meteorological wind come from? I will quote Ogden Nash. Ogden Nash. Yes, yes. The playful poet. Ogden Nash. Wind is caused by trees waving their branches. That guy was stupid.

36:50Let me tell you right now, I do not know where wind comes from. I'm going to be honest. I don't know where wind comes from, but I know this much. It don't come from trees waving. Hey, how y 'all doing?

37:04Neil deGrasse Tyson:How would you know? Because, and I'll tell you why. This is important. This is a bit of science here. Okay. You, how do you, when it's windy out, trees are swaying. Right. So how do you, how would you test what the cause and effect is of that? Because two things. One. Wind could be caused by fast spinning anemometers. Okay. The weather veins. It could be, you know. It could also be caused by a butterfly flapping its wings in Japan. A big butterfly. Mothra. Mothra. The monster approaches Tokyo. No, the reason is because I hear the wind and then I see the tree move. So that means the wind was there before the tree.

37:56Neil deGrasse Tyson:The wind ain't about what sequence you obtained data. The wind didn't hit your ear first and the tree's waiting for it to get through your head and then hit it. Sometimes it does. Sometimes I hear the wind and then I see the tree move. I'm like, that something came by me. Something came by me and moved that tree. Those are the trees a quarter mile away. Could be. All right. So no, this is very, it's actually very simple. Okay. You have wind, which is a readjustment of air pressure. It's really what's going on. Okay. So I don't see you say it like that. You say it like that just explained it to me.

38:43Sorry. No, no, what you have is basically a readjustment of air pressure. That's all. That's what it is.

38:51Neil deGrasse Tyson:That's all it is. We're done here. Done. No. Thanks. So it's the unequal heating of Earth's surface. Oh, now that makes sense. That's what it is. Okay. That's cool. And so if it's warmer in one place than another, and plus Earth is rotating, so these factors conspire so that if air ever rises, well, that wouldn't cause wind as we know it because wind goes horizontally to the surface. But if you have rising air because it just got heated, what has to happen next? You don't create a vacuum blow. Well, you do. But then what happens? You have falling air. Sorry. Yes. That's very good. If air rises, you'll also have falling air.

39:44Neil deGrasse Tyson:That's true in total. But the pocket of atmosphere directly below where the air had gone up, okay, what happens there? Oh, it has to be filled. It's got to be filled. So you get an updraft. And it gets filled from the sides. Right. Oh! It gets filled from the sides. Sweet! Yes. Oh, my God. That's how it works? Yes! That's so cool. Yes. Okay. I'll tell you, Earth is tricky. Earth got some tricks. So you have rising air. It creates a partial vacuum, which is a pressure difference. And then other air says, we have to fill that gap. Let's go there. And so there it goes. Okay. Nice. So if you look at hurricanes, for example, very, very low pressure in the middle.

40:41You have heated, warm, moist, what we call unstable air.

40:49Neil deGrasse Tyson:If air is unstable, it rises. Okay. In that low pressure system, all the clouds in the neighborhood want to go there. Sweet. Everything wants to go to the center of a hurricane. It's the Cloud Nightclub. Yo, man, you going to the eye tonight? You going to the eye? No. Yo, man, I heard the eye is going to be hot tonight.

41:17Neil deGrasse Tyson:So all the clouds try to come in, but then Earth's rotation sort of veers them to the right. No matter which way they're trying to head into the front entrance of the eye club, they veer to the right. And so you have this circulation while the clouds are trying to get to the middle. And this gives you that spiraling storm. That spiral effect and everybody trying to get into the middle. And so hurricanes have famously fast winds because of this. Like hundreds of miles an hour in the fastest of them. Now, if you have air that is descending, air that descends, first it won't make a cloud. So, descending air is like generally clear skies.

42:14Neil deGrasse Tyson:Deserts have descending air. Oh, okay. Now, there's certain parts of the world where the descending air is so sort of total, it is sort of gently descending. And it can go out the sides, but if the area of the descending air is large enough, then there's no sideways wind. Wow. These areas of Earth's surface, especially over the ocean, are called the doldrums. That's the club that nobody wants to go to. Sorry. You got the Hurricane Eye and you got the Doldrums. Exactly. It's like, man, I couldn't get into the eye last night. Now I got to go to the Doldrums. The Doldrums. So the Doldrums are regions of Earth's surface where all the wind has ceased.

43:02And if you happen to be a sailing ship that wanders into the Doldrums.

43:07Neil deGrasse Tyson:Wow. Oh, my gosh. That's bad stuff. That's it. That's it. Many a ship have just given up the ghost in the doldrums because you can't move if they don't have oars. There's no wind, nothing, nothing. And they eat up their food supply. They eat each other, whatever, and that's it. Wow. It's like the great wind garbage patch of the ocean. Like the plastic patch. The plastic patch. It just accumulates. It goes nowhere.

43:46Neil deGrasse Tyson:It's the wind version. I thought of it that way. Yeah, that's terrible. It's a fascinating disturbed analogy. It is. Oh, that's terrible, though. Now, a couple of things, a couple other things. So Mars has famously large wind storms. And we call them dust storms because the wind picks up the dust. You know, the Martian surface dust. Yeah, yeah. And so you can see this. In fact, when it happens, it cloaks the Martian surface. And so our telescopes and space probes, we can't see what's at the bottom. It's basically one of these like sandstorms you've read about in the desert, but it's like a dust storm on Mars.

44:28Or it's a very clever cloaking device that the Martians use to stop us from looking at them when they're doing stuff on the surface of Mars. Yeah, exactly, Chuck.

44:42Neil deGrasse Tyson:Wait, do you remember the face on Mars? Listen, do you remember the face on Mars? So it was back in the 70s. There was like the famous face on Mars. It was like some kind of a structure that had eye sockets, a nose, and a mouth. And it looked like a huge, it was huge, huge. And we got a couple photos of it during the Viking missions. And everyone said, we got to go back. Clearly, there's life there. Okay. By the way, if there's life and that represented it, it would have to be life that had sort of a simian face. Most life on Earth doesn't have a face. So that would be weird if life on a whole other planet had a humanoid face.

45:23Neil deGrasse Tyson:That would just be weird. Okay? Just saying. But lobsters don't have—did we notice the lobster monument that was there? No, because we're only looking for stuff that looks like us. All right. So we went back. And you saw—and we had better, higher resolution. And you saw a hint of like where the eyebrows were in the mouth, but it was mostly sort of good. And people said, the Martians knew we were looking at them. Yeah, right. They covered it up. They covered it up. With their Mars dust. Here's my point. The Martian atmosphere is one one-hundredth the thickness of Earth's atmosphere. Oh, that's terrible.

46:00Neil deGrasse Tyson:That's barely any atmosphere. It's barely any atmosphere. So if you move that air 100 miles an hour, you ain't got... It's like an infant trying to blow out a birthday candle, you know? It's like...

46:23Neil deGrasse Tyson:I'm giving up. And that's why the whole scene in the movie The Martian where they can't leave... They're trying to leave the planet because of windstorm. a dust storm is coming and the rocket is rocking it's rocking back and forth and they take off and they leave Mark Watney on the surface because they're afraid they'll topple over from the wind oh man another movie ruined, thank you Neil no yeah that can't happen then right, that just can't even happen yeah yeah it's not it's not happening, you might be dusty and you can't see but you're not blowing over any spaceships So it's also not going to pick up a rod, a metal rod, and spear you with it because it's not going to do that either.

47:12Neil deGrasse Tyson:Yeah, it's not tornado speed. Right, right. So the point is, Mars is also an unevenly heated planet. And that's why you get this. Correct, correct. All right, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What? I got to ask you this now, all right? And this is off the explainer chart, but I got to do it, okay? I know that you know him. So did you ask him about that when he wrote this? Are you talking about Andy Weir? Andy, yeah. Did you actually ask him? I got all up in his situation. But then what I said was, what I said was, okay, Andy, so much else in that novel, later the movie, was so well calculated and thought through, I'm going to give you a hall pass on this one.

48:04Oh, okay. Because without it, he's got no story. Yeah, he had to do it. It was poetic license for a Mars hurricane so he could get to the rest of the story.

48:14Neil deGrasse Tyson:Yeah, so I gave it to him because he did the rest of his homework. See, I'm not totally evil commentator. I will cut you some slack if you're an artist. But as Mark Twain said, first get your facts straight, then distort them at your leisure. Okay. That's Mark Twain's edict. I love it. So I'm all in on that. By the way, Venus is very evenly heated over its surface, and we think it has hardly any winds there at all. Nice. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. It's a refreshing 900 degrees. You would vaporize, but ignoring that complication. No wind needed. No wind needed. It's so even. It's so even. It's not a dry heat.

49:02It's an even heat. You're good.

49:06Neil deGrasse Tyson:That's the joke I heard about hell, they say. You know, you ask some evil person, how's hell? Yeah, yeah, it's hot, but it's low humidity, so we're fine. That's funny, actually.

49:21Neil deGrasse Tyson:Chuck we got to end it there this is a windy starting off with your uncle yes we had a windy a windy explainer for StarTalk Dad, it's always a pleasure Neil deGrasse Tyson keep looking up

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