In short
The episode is a chaotic catch-up centered on Christmas season stress, music/performances, dating/sex talk, and embarrassing everyday moments. The hosts celebrate a sellout drag show and a new single (“The Girls”) about wanting to be okay while society pushes people toward drinking/drugs. They also trade stories about Spotify/“wrapped,” watching The O.C., and going out (pubs/clubs, Winter Wonderland). A major segment discusses ADHD: getting referrals, how ADHD can present differently in women, and whether more people are being diagnosed now. They debate how to communicate with an ADHD partner, emphasizing that neurodivergence doesn’t excuse relationship neglect; the key is telling your partner what’s not working and working together (possibly via medication/therapy). Notable examples include an “AI Christmas market” mix-up (people thinking they can see inside Buckingham Palace), embarrassing Tesco passport-photo experiences, and a story about a friend booking tickets to a nonexistent AI market.
Guests
none—no guest speakers appear; only the hosts and a brief call from “Bill” (the boyfriend) during the episode.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReflections on a Sellout Show
1:21 to 2:18
The hosts discuss a recent sellout show and the experience.
New Music Release
2:19 to 3:21
Discussion of a new single and its themes around female experiences.
“Yeah, because it is, like, I wrote it for my community, but realistically, like, it is all, it's for the girls.”
Emotional Moments from the Show
3:22 to 4:32
The hosts reflect on the emotional reactions from the show.
“But it's the only show I've ever seen without a venue.”
Freelance Life Struggles
4:33 to 8:40
Discussion on the challenges of freelance work and financial pressures.
“Let's just completely establish that the priorities right now in Sue's life is that she did an amazing show and she's got a new song out and you should all fucking listen to it because it's really good.”
Christmas Market Confusion
8:41 to 10:46
A humorous story about a misunderstanding regarding an AI Christmas market.
“We're not talking about our Spotify rap today because we can't get it working on our phone, but I know that my top five will be Olly Murs, Connor Maynard, Tom Grennan, Youngblood and Sombra.”
Winter Wonderland Plans
10:47 to 14:01
Plans and opinions on attending Winter Wonderland and Christmas markets.
“And this person said, I was gonna be coming down to London, but I've just cancelled my trip after booking my tickets because the AI market, have you seen this?”
Winter Wonderland Excitement
14:01 to 15:05
The hosts discuss their plans for Winter Wonderland and the vibe of the event.
“Yeah, I am with, like, Balinese mates because they love it.”
Embarrassing Moments
15:05 to 22:00
They share personal embarrassing experiences, including passport photos and social interactions.
“And it's just like, do you know when you have a photo of just like your face?”
ADHD Discussions
22:00 to 25:46
The conversation shifts to ADHD, its diagnosis, and personal experiences with it.
“Because a little birdie, a mutual friend of actually shout out Winnie Hall.”
Understanding ADHD in Women
25:46 to 27:31
They explore the differences in ADHD understanding and diagnosis between genders.
“He actually thinks clearly and looks after me.”
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Live Call and Lighthearted Moments
27:31 to 28:00
The hosts take a lighthearted call from one of their boyfriends during the podcast.
“I'd like to hear a lot more people waking things up.”
Brief Interlude with Bill
28:00 to 28:32
A light-hearted exchange between hosts before diving into the main topic.
“Um You just need me to sign the back of that post That passport photo Yeah can you sign the back of my passport photo Yeah of course What a treat Right You okay, Bill?”
Night Out Dynamics
28:54 to 29:57
Discussion on the evolution of nightlife and different types of nights out among young people.
“about um being a young person um i think there are two types of nights out in two types of people because I was explaining the difference between like me.”
Personal Night Out Experiences
29:57 to 31:18
Sharing personal anecdotes about ideal nights out and preferences.
“I think I've hit it No but you're looking at the exception to the rule because I'm drinking all day and I don't sleep No I agree with you I guess it's a finances thing, really.”
Vivid Clubbing Adventures
31:18 to 33:50
Hosts recount their experiences attempting to get into clubs and the personalities they encounter.
“You're not talking about fucking, you're not talking about Tower Hamlets, you're not talking about Limehouse, you're not talking about Bo.”
Awkward Encounters and Misadventures
33:50 to 35:58
Recollections of awkward encounters and transitions from parties to home.
“And I asked them for like advice on how to make it in music.”
Self-Deprecating Humor
35:58 to 36:50
Hosts share humorous self-reflections and banter about their personalities.
“well I thought you meant like walked through the threshold and was like no this is disgusting fuck this there's mice everywhere there's no loo roll what the fuck is going on?”
Cultural Commentary on Online Feedback
36:50 to 39:49
Discussion about online comments and feedback on previous episodes.
“They're like, look at Pippi Longstockings.”
Politics and Edgelord Culture
39:49 to 42:03
Exploration of societal trends and political commentary on internet culture.
“She hangs out with Alex Jones, she shoots guns, she believes in trad wife stuff.”
Edgelords and Holiday Anticipation
42:03 to 45:56
A humorous take on cultural observations and a Christmas song parody.
“is that she just kind of is like full edgelord to the fact where she didn't just do it on the left, but then she pivoted to the right.”
Listener's Question on ADHD Communication
45:56 to 48:00
Discussion on how to communicate effectively with an ADHD partner.
“Your freestyling abilities are something I'm so envious of.”
Navigating Relationship Challenges
49:02 to 56:00
Exploration of relationship dynamics, including boundaries and trust.
“So the question is, are they actually diagnosed ADHD or is this like, I'm ADHD?”
Energy for Life
56:00 to 56:34
Discussion on the importance of maintaining good energy levels.
“workout up a notch good energy in good energy out energy for life Pandora jewelry brings the sparkle to your summer.”
Transcript
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0:48Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. Oh my God, thank God. how the fuck's everyone been also the fucking the fucking straight diva the Christmas wrapped thing has come out the Christmas everyone everyone in their fucking is posting their Christmas wrapped and you best believe that the fucking most disgusting podcast in the Great British Isles is dominating is dominating fucking charts the gag is though don't fucking share that we're your top five podcasts why not if we're not that's absolutely class no if we're not number one yeah if we're not number one what are you doing but yeah if you're not top five yeah like also if we're in your top five and then you've got another funny podcast above us you're an op yeah i don't want to see those two irish divas above us i don't want to see what's the face above us the horrible ones from america June and you're above us I don't want to see those ops Above us okay I love your fucking spirit Yeah We're the top We're coming for the top We're trying to pay our rent Oh my god Lord Give me some top right now I'm looking for some sloppy Oh Sophie's here Struggled to get to the end of the year Speaking of Speaking of Wait Sue I think How was your sellout show I had a sellout show guys How was it It was really good I sent it um shelled it sent it you make music i make music guys i got a single that came out yesterday called the girls it's about um just wanting to be okay like most women want they just want to walk in the day and sleep in the night but instead the world's so peaked that you end up doing drugs and drinking instead if that's you listen please and you and you uh you opened it up to the cis girlies at the start as well.
2:48Yeah, because it is, like, I wrote it for my community, but realistically, like, it is all, it's for the girls. Weak move. Fuck off.
3:00But it is, it's for all women and everyone is just not a straight white man. Man, it's hard. But yeah, no, the show was amazing. I feel very honoured and lucky. The promoter and the owner of the venue said it was the best show he's seen all year. in that venue. And yeah, I just feel very, very honoured and blessed. I would say the same. But it's the only show I've ever seen without a venue. Yeah, which is quite fierce drag jewels. And the best thing about it was, thank you to everyone that signed up for a waiting list because there was doubly the amount of people on the waiting list waiting for tickets.
3:32Hell yeah. Which is crazy because we could have just actually sold out a bigger venue but that's coming in February. Guys, she was absolutely brilliant. I actually was. I just can't lie, I absolutely sent it. I actually got a bit emotional. I was wearing Charles Jeffery. It was fierce. I thought, you were brilliant and I just felt it was one of those moments where you leave on the uh leave the gig and on the way home you're like wow this is a wasted evening no no that you are so brilliant at performing but also that like I don't know everyone in that room or not everyone in that room but like so many people in that room like Sam and James and Dan um are such a I mean they're all really talented but they're all so sweet as well like there's so many people rooting for you and behind you yeah and it is lovely and you just know how to work a fucking stage you've got some sort of fucking freak sickness yes because it's called needing validation desperately well and that's why the spotify wrapped coming through at the perfect yeah i've been i've been on a dopamine um loss since the gig i did some work for a brand that rhymes with beat well okay um recently yesterday and so like from that i've just been on like a slow decline and so like last night i just forced bill to get in bed with me and watch the oc yeah uh because i'm just like yeah we're watching the oc from the start like a nostalgic orange county yeah uh no i never watched it but bill and bill's sister love it um and she was i'm re-watching it so we're like fuck it let's re-watch it and i'm i'm watching i'm all up today on isle of la i am lovely lovely Louie left is now TV logged in the TV.
5:13So I've been watching. I look out for my friends. Thanks, girl. Yeah, I'm caught up. I'm really enjoying. How are you, girl? Sorry. Been sucking all the air out the room. No, babe. Sloppy toppy in the air out the room. Let's just completely establish that the priorities right now in Sue's life is that she did an amazing show and she's got a new song out and you should all fucking listen to it because it's really good. And I listened to it on the cab home from my gig last night. or a gig that I went to while I was vaping out the window because the cabbie was nice enough to let me do that. It was so funny.
5:47Did you say can I vape? No, no. Yeah, yeah, I did. Well, no, I get into the cab. Yeah. He's like, you're right. I was like, yeah, so I was just hitting my vape before I got into the cab because I'm a nicotine freak. I'm a nicotine junkie and I like it funky.
6:07And he was like, oh, okay. and I was like so wait can I so do you want a freak here and he was like no you can't vape and I was like okay he's like actually open the window bud and then I was crossing Vauxhall Bridge and just felt deeply moved the emotions flow over me as the girls was playing through the headphones but in answer to your question Sue I am I'm okay yeah I am kind of looking forward to the year being over not in a kind of depressing way but I think it's that time I get a bit well yeah I do get a bit down at this time of year to be honest with you not to be a Debbie Downer but Christmas in general is not my favourite time of the year and I do try and hide it because there is sometimes nothing worse than a Scrooge for the people around you yeah but like it does hit different especially when you're older and also even being a freelancer I saw you did your taxes the other day well done well actually I didn't so I went on the fucking self-assessment thing yeah and apologies to anyone who isn't a freelancer because this is a very boring topic but it's really good financial literacy yeah if you're a freelancer and you go on the self-assessment thing and it says you don't have any tax to pay that does not mean you don't have to do a self-assessment form no no no you still have to do it I still have to do that yeah but it's something so I still have to do that I know that's the longest bit I left mine another year so not last year or the year before whatever I just did the year before that i still have to fill one out so it just says there right because i was like you have what it is yeah i'm just telling you what it is ho what's up um it's not even i mean the family stuff is like one thing and christmas and whatever it to be honest it's more the um the pre-empting of like the drinking and the eating that um it always is like a bit like fuck okay how are we gonna get through this what's the strategy am i gonna do you know intermittent fasting juice binge uh followed by seven pints and also freelance life there's no money going around these days no i'm so lucky i've got like two jobs upcoming thank fuck guys i know we say every episode but now would be the perfect time to hiss with a sponsor or something fuck me please because honestly i'm gonna have to go back i'm gonna have to get a day job in January and I'm not even kidding audience listening like yeah yeah you should be go and work a fuck yeah I do have a job I work three jobs and I'm busy yeah but I'm gonna have to get like I'm gonna have to find another income stream yeah because I posted a story yesterday I still do all this normal work I know I'm gonna do that tomorrow but I just really single so I need to like celebrity first yes but like that's like I just can't I can't like I'm lucky I've got these two bits of work which will get me through to like maybe the end of jan but like i need to stop thinking bigger picture and like i need to make money um we need to kind of yeah what what do you think our alternative revenue stream is that like we could do together do you think like obviously only fans is there for us yeah um do you think we could do like some kind of sort of i mean i've mentioned it before but like some sort of kind of far right thing where like we sell ourselves well no maybe if we've just like Spotify paid on time, then we'd be fine.
9:28The fucking Death Star. We're not talking about our Spotify rap today because we can't get it working on our phone, but I know that my top five will be Olly Murs, Connor Maynard, Tom Grennan, Youngblood and Sombra. I know mine is gonna be H, Angry Ginger's Christmas single, Katie Price, Stacey Solomon. Katie Price, Harvey Price. Yeah, Stacey Solomon. and um and steps no i'm multi-screen honestly to be mentioned in the same breath as those artists it's theest drag duels can i say on h and angry ginch um i'm thinking it's a real moment for straight men straight men are up right yeah good for you girls and it's about fucking time where have you been we said straight people in this year we did and they let us down you know who else is um flying the flag high for straight men Bob Mortimer and Paul Paul Whitehouse yeah but they always have been it's so sweet I was watching their gone fish then you gone fishing recently and it is just a nice hug yeah what do you want to talk you've got shit loads to talk about because it's quite funny so I went up to and oh you we've got so much I went home I went to my well I went to my parents Apologies for We didn't do an episode A normal episode last week Because we did But the audio was Yeah we did a whole episode And the audio just fucked up But We're really sorry But We Me and Bill went up to Bolton Like a Bolton area Preston Where my parents live And stayed there for a few days And saw them Which was lovely And I should tell this story But I'm gonna tell it We can always tell it No no it's funny So I must tell you But if she does listen I'm really sorry for listening I'm not gonna say Whose friend it was Someone in my family Has a friend I'm cutting you out yeah we're done no my parents don't listen to my podcast because I've asked them not to because I was like because they were talking about it like being kind of like my job and they were like yeah and it's your job like we should listen to it and I was like you literally don't want to like please don't like I actually specifically asked them not to listen to it like what yeah you talk about what I know I know but basically someone who my parents know was like I was speaking to them while I was up there and I said what were you doing this weekend?
11:48And this person said, I was gonna be coming down to London, but I've just cancelled my trip after booking my tickets because the AI market, have you seen this? The AI, Buckingham Palace, she was gonna come down for the AI. she'd booked tickets down to come to an AI market that didn't exist. And then this person said that they actually thought, no shade, no shade, that they actually thought they were going to go see inside Buckingham Palace. And like, no shade because you're actually a legend and I'm sorry if you ever listened to this. I know I really am, yeah, but I saw it on TikTok. I was like, surely that can't be real.
12:30And then to meet somebody who did do that, we are, as a generation, no, as a race, we're cooked. As a race. The human race. The human race. That's what I meant, not a race. The Caucasians are fucked up right now. I meant that the human race, we're cooked, babe. We're cooked. We're so over. An AI photo of a Christmas market. Yeah. People are coming down and thinking they can go and Buckingham Palace. We are cooked, babe. Got trained. Got trained down to London. Got myself some Union Jack trainers from Buckingham Palace Christmas market. I couldn't believe it. I was like, you're kidding. And the way me and Bill just had to sit there like this.
13:12Yeah, I did see that, yeah. What would they say? fucking Christmas markets are the most NPC. But it looked fake. It was an animation. What do you reckon they're selling at the AI Christmas market? Girl, NFTs. NFTs. Customisable LED snapback. TikTok shop. Saying gotcha. Lily Allen clitsucker. Did you know about that? I only found out about this week. Did you not know about that? Like a revolutionary sex toy? Yeah, did you not know that? No. Yeah, they're like rose toys, but a bit earlier. Sick. I bought my friend a rose toy for her birthday last year. That's really sweet of you. Yeah. Are you a Christmas market person?
13:59I do like it. I'm going to Winter Wonderland on Saturday. No, you're not. Yeah, I am with, like, Balinese mates because they love it. Our friend Adam loves, chat Adam, loves Winter Wonderland. Why do... Okay, explain to me... Because it's quite fierce, like Jules. but okay what do you get out of winter one is it the rides is it the shops is it a drink or something it just makes you feel a bit it's just like oh my god winter is here i'm fucking fucking buzzing half a can i catch all and i keep my girlfriend's head in only imagine strangled a bitch with an iphone charger don't wear gucci don't wear prada we don't support any of those words we just added.
14:38It's too, sorry, it's too normie for me. Yeah, it's definitely normie, but that's the whole first bit is like you turn up and you're like, I'm a podcaster and I'm at Winterfunderland. We're not getting recognised at Winterfunderland. No, no, no, that's not what I meant. That's why I love it. No, but like, you know. It's like Soho House. Yeah.
15:00Oh, it's not good. Right, shall we move on topics? Yeah. look at you go I know I've got a list I missed you things that are embarrassing I know most days I know things that are embarrassing that aren't meant to be embarrassing okay hit me I haven't asked you this so you're gonna have to come off I'll go off the top of my dome getting your passport photo done in a passport booth just the humiliating kind of silence in between photos no just like the fact that I have to walk into a Tesco yeah this is what happened I walked to my local Tesco I'm not gonna say where it is but come on find it if you want it I walked into the local Tesco and Hackney which I live near and we I there's a booth in there and I went into the booth, I had my headphones in it was really busy, it was Saturday in Hackney like all the tills, like whatever I go in, I've got my headphones in close my curtain I'm already embarrassed, I don't want to do it, whatever the whole time I'd walked there a woman has been shouting at me, excuse me it doesn't work but I've not heard it because I must have had like shovel coal on so everyone in tesco i open the window i take it out i'm like bad sit down i sit down i hear excuse me i take it i look out everyone in tesco is looking at me i just thought nah nah so it's it's not the active passport photo no it was embarrassing as it was right and then it was if the universe was like you thought it was embarrassing you dumb tranny have this and i was i couldn't believe it and i was like okay that's not fierce and i went to another Tesco on Bethnal Green Road, which I don't live near, and I got it done yesterday.
16:36And it's just like, do you know when you have a photo of just like your face? Yeah. And you're just like, because that's just like my face. Like, how do people look fierce on passport photos? Oh, I think it's one of the better, it's one of the more ego-boosting photos I get taken. Really? I'll make something the opposite for me. Really? Babe, because if I do this, But you've got to mug. No, I'm mugging, but like, I've actually got, I'm quite, I've realized, I was saying this to Bill yesterday. God, I talk about my boyfriend too much. I'm sorry I got dick down. Sorry I got dick down. But I haven't got a symmetrical face.
17:11Like I do, if you look at a photo of me, it does give like, what is that? My nose goes this way. Like, but not in like a thing where like I'm, babe, I've been booked. Like I got, I got. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I don't think I'm clapped on it. I am a weird lucky motherfucker. Yeah, but weird's hot. I know but like do you know when you look at the passport photo and you're like it like strips away any illusion of like weirdness where you like dress up your face you like you dress along with your face and you know eyebrows and your crooked nose and like you can dress with that and it's like ooh you look cool whereas in a passport photo it's like ooh bitch that's weird well I sympathise greatly because I have what is known as a cod eye I think what's that?
17:50which is like you know Tom York from Radiohead has it like no I don't know what he looks like he has like one eye way more shut than the other. Really? That's fierce. And I kind of have that. Do you? Yeah. One eye is slightly lazier than the other. I can see it. But I actually think, yeah, I think passport photos are kind of hard. Do you want to see mine? Yeah, please. Shout out to like every fucking indie band from London and Copenhagen using passport photos as their press shots. Like, it's just weird. You do look weird. Yeah, I know. Because it's just my face. It doesn't look like you. But it's me.
18:27that is like me the most like it's me I just I keep looking at it because I'm like you look hot it's just that but I don't like it's not that I don't look hot like obviously beautiful person inside and out right but I am it's just it makes you just see like especially inside I think I'm more pretty when I talk and like when I smile anyway things that are embarrassing things that are embarrassing yeah other things when you walk past someone and they've got a dog on a leash and then the dog walks away from them and then you're just walking into leash. Embarrassing. You trying to trip me up or something?
19:05Because I'm like, I'll kick your dog because I'm not scared of your little dog. I'll kill it. I'll push it into the canal. Oh God, okay. Another thing, crossing the road and a delivery driver slams the brakes because they're speeding on their motorbike. You've had quite a week, but are you okay? it's like yeah i did a show but the real the real embarrassing moment was the fucking thing is when you compliment someone like i like your shirt and they're like i love yours and you're like yeah i didn't that's embarrassing you just embarrassed me yeah but then it was it is also embarrassing getting like three compliments in a row yeah you do feel like uh i like your glasses yeah oh my god i love your face embarrassing things for me the first thing that's coming to the top of my mind is when I like my first experience of getting gaslit was when I was five years old at school some kids, my supposed friend Sue told me, gaslit me that I exposed myself to the pretty school in the year I remember this, have I told you this?
20:09You told me this in the park and it was really sunny and you looked like Paul Meskel that one time, do you remember? Yeah, and then you said the drag race reference about basketball and I walked off it was that day, so I've said it on the podcast Yeah, you said it on the episode was called Formative Wanks. Our most viewed episode, if you're looking for... God, that is crazy, isn't it? When you start talking about sex. What you... What the people... Yeah. Also, Rebecca Moore followed the pod. If you want Rebecca Moore... If you want us to become the extra cock destroyers... Yeah, and if you don't know who Rebecca Moore is...
20:39Get to know. Oh, and we spoke about that on the episode, the audio fucked up. So, yeah. Rebecca Moore, we love you. Another embarrassing thing, having a Labrador. oh disagree i a big fat labrador stupid labrador oh my favorite really it's one of those things that you don't like it's like it's you with winter wonderland it's like you know what it's mainstream but i fuck with it they're smart i can't fault their intelligence yeah um why don't you like labradors i just they're so well-natured i was actually on my morning walk this morning and one walked past me and I just thought, that's fucking big enough.
21:17Because you're fat phobic? No, just like it looks ill. Like a healthy Labrador, fierce drag jewels. If you are able to take out your Labrador morning and night, but you clearly don't. You're taking your Labrador out for half an hour, walk in the morning and then leaving it to eat in the kitchen. Or you're just feeding that shit. Yeah, just a feeder. Also, I wrote today. I'm a bear. I'm a fucking bear. Also, the bears are out at the gig. the bears were out the bears are out the shout out bears um and i just wrote here i was very frustrated on my morning walk this morning because i was very tired and i just wrote man with christmas tree and i can't really remember that was it i was walking down the road and this man what's also embarrassing but it's not embarrassing for me at this point it's embarrassing for you if i like walk behind you or like we're both turning a corner together and we're about to walk the same direction and you try and speed up so you could beat me but i'm actually faster than you that's embarrassing so this man with a christmas tree was crossing the road and i was here and then as i was saying he was trying to like speed up to get past me but i thought not you big bitch with a christmas tree that i'll never be able to pass so i like i i sped up and i was like haha but i was at home embarrassing for you and it really annoyed me that he was just like in my periphery holding a christmas tree for about three minutes i'm so cool i'm having such a stand i'm having such a dopamine crash.
22:42This is your dopamine crash. Guys, I've got ADHD. I got my referral. I'm actually getting done. Let's talk about that. Okay. Let's wake that up. Because a little birdie, a mutual friend of actually shout out Winnie Hall. Winnie Hall. Lovely, lovely t-shirt from Winnie Hall. Who was also at the gig on Monday and is a brilliant artist. Yeah, she's a brilliant artist. And she makes beautiful badges as well as t-shirts and many other things. She does indeed. And her paintings are yours. she was telling me that despite our lovely friend who got in touch with the podcast doing the screening you still need to like get another I need to get the referral from the doctor to then get referred and I'll be like it'll take six years to get your medication I'll be like haha no because then I can take it back to our lovely friend shut it down if you listen to this and then they can help me to get right to choose so then it'll only take like six months and do you think once you get diagnosed with ADHD I want drugs like immediately I honestly struggle I get to midday honestly I got Bill came home my boyfriend I got a boyfriend I got a boyfriend but he came home and I'd he'd been out this morning I'd been on my coffee walk getting annoyed at everyone holding Christmas trees and then I came home and then by 12pm I'm like my energy's gone like I've lost it's like I burned through it right and then I'm like glum for like three hours you blew your load all in one yeah yeah love sex love sex love pink I don't know if it's one of those things where it's like I believe it's called the Beider-Meinhof phenomenon where you learn a word and then you start to see it everywhere or you hear a song and then you start to notice it everywhere it's like with ADHD stuff, obviously there's been people that have been on it since they were teenagers but as a 27 year old I'm noticing way more people all of a sudden getting diagnosed yeah now but i think maybe a lot of people i think it's so much more common than people think and i think it's the same thing that i think people are trying to do with like transness where like i think the education of transness makes more people realize how fluid gender is and thus maybe including themselves in under the trans umbrella and i think people above that are hating that yeah so i think it's the same with adhd that like actually a lot more people do have issues where like they might benefit from like now thinking back to all of the times i was in therapy how many times i was saying a symptom of adhd and she was just like yeah you find it hard to balance your scale don't you yeah yeah you're you you struggle why do you find it i was like i never replied to people's texts i never replied to emails yeah and she was like you need to get better at that it's like bitch yeah now i'm retrospective i'm just i've got a mental issue yeah it's like it's it is similar to the trans thing and i guess it's also similar to kind of like being a dj like yeah people everyone's but everyone says like we don't have we have too many djs we actually just we're all a dj no for sure it's not in our souls it's in our souls the only thing i'll say is that i will what i will say is that i have one friend and obviously this is one example but um he was diagnosed adhd when he was like 13 and he actually is like very anti-medication because he kind of he got hooked on it basically yes okay he thinks he was misdiagnosed just as a result of like family trauma yeah and he like the reason he couldn't focus in class wasn't because he had adhd well maybe it was but like the underlying factor or the real problem was that he just couldn't focus on class because the situation at home was shit so bad yeah but this is also the thing like my ex-boyfriend was both of my ex-boyfriends were really heavily ADHD.
26:21She's got a tie. Actually, Bill isn't very ADHD. No, Bill's very together anyway. Thank God. He actually thinks clearly and looks after me.
26:35Basically, he was diagnosed as a kid. He was always the naughty kid and said he had ADHD from a child and was a medicated kid. He came off medication. and then obviously most ADHD people just like love drinking and stuff right but I think the reason why I never thought I had it is because I had two previous boyfriends who had it that were like why does everyone fucking the classic man thing like they want it to be special and they're like you know why does everyone think they've got ADHD now they don't know what it's like they don't know what it's like and like actually I think it would have helped to like the times where I was oh maybe I've got it they were like I don't think you do it's just warmer the sound of it is just warmer you wouldn't understand yeah yeah and I was like and all of the studies and autism and ADHD are on men and not on women, most of them.
27:17Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's the whole issue about the whole thing is they don't know how it manifests in women and not straight men basically. Well if you'll excuse me saying it wake that up. Seriously. Do I get the wake that up pass? Yeah, of course, yeah. It's not like. Who doesn't get the wake that up pass? I think everyone gets it. I'd like to hear a lot more people waking things up. Okay, great. My new one's Fierce Drag Jewels. And what does that mean? Fierce. Okay. Or like it means like Just good Like fair schedules Okay great It kind of means now Okay Oh my Shall we answer it Yeah let's answer it This is my boyfriend ringing Did I mention your boyfriend Hello you're live on the podcast Are we Yeah Are you still recording Oh You haven't got the fuck out of my house yet Um You just need me to sign the back of that post That passport photo Yeah can you sign the back of my passport photo Yeah of course What a treat Right You okay, Bill?
28:13I'm great, thank you. I'm actually going to be home very shortly, so I will see you soon. Okay, great. I just wanted to catch you before Louis maybe left. Aww. No, I'll be here, darling. Bye. You'll never get rid of me.
28:32He definitely had something to say and then didn't have to say it. Yeah, he was like, right.
28:40What next? wait actually just on that yeah if you uh if you think you have adhd uh you don't no yeah go to norospark solutions they help me get my pre-screening um get hooked on meth and we'll all have a much better time also i one final point is which i woke up actually to my dad i was speaking about um being a young person um i think there are two types of nights out in two types of people because I was explaining the difference between like me. You're talking to your dad about this? Yeah, and Zooey, for example. Because he was like, what a night's out like for like young people now. Right. Because he was like, his typical night out was like, go to the pub from like seven, then at like 11 when the pub closes, you then go to the club until like 2 a.m.
29:25Right, that's how it used to run in Bolton, right? But I was like, I think it's so different now because you either are a pub person where you finish at 11 or 12 and go home, or it's very rare that people cross over into, or you don't leave the house until 12 or you're at a pre's until 12 and then from 12 you then get rat ass unable to stay up to like 6 or 7 I don't think there's anyone really anymore in my opinion that does like the whole like pub till 7 out till 7 Babe I think I've hit it No but you're looking at the exception to the rule because I'm drinking all day and I don't sleep No I agree with you I guess it's a finances thing, really.
30:12Well, yeah. I can't afford to fucking... I think it is. You are right. Yeah. Honestly, at the minute, I just can't afford to drink. Yeah. I need to stop drinking. Or just drink all in your house. Yeah. Because it's so much cheaper. But I could go from seven till seven if I... Could you? Yeah. I do that once a weekend, most weekends. I just love to sleep. Am I really low? No, I'm fine. Well, we're okay. What's Sue, I think ,'s big night out? Big night out, Christ. Your ideal night out without naming any locations that you actually go to, so. Is it literally just like the local pub that I'm not going to name because the last time I went, it was so busy on a Friday that I was actually like, I need to lower my tone on this place.
30:59Right. Not saying like, it's a pub, you know me? We'll go there. and then like if we're going out we went there and then we went say we went to george riley at color factory we stayed there till two yeah and then i left yeah like two why are we here past two i've been out since that's when it gets good because that's no i don't get good because that's when it gets less busy as well and then just like you can actually be free and no yeah no but that's when i'm gonna go because it's like the fun's ended when the fun stops stopped yeah frank yeah Frank speaks to me and like me Lauren and Bill got a car home like immediately Frank Frank tickles your gooch yeah Frank's like this in the car gives you a kiss on the cheek and says don't bitch go to sleep don't gamble yeah don't make any unnecessary journeys um my perfect night out yeah what's your perfect night out Louise is going to a pub that is near East London but not in East London yeah because actually I want to make something clear that when people are talking about East London, they're generally talking about Hackney.
32:07You're not talking about fucking, you're not talking about Tower Hamlets, you're not talking about Limehouse, you're not talking about Bo. Maybe you're like, Bo's borderline. Yeah, but Bo is borderline. But like, whether it's gentrification or going out, most people on your straight diva adjacent feeds, they're talking about Hackney, let's be real. So I don't want to go to a pub in Hackney because they're all as you say, fucking rammoed. And I need to warm myself up To mingle with Hackney types A thumb it in A few beers down me A couple of blue pills I just know I'd love a Xanax Really? If I could bluey all the way out to Christmas I would But my birthday's on the 19th I just want to clarify that My name isn't named after Xanax Or Viagra oh yeah pick one it's more about lean Jolly Ranch is lean the blue Jolly Ranch is no pub in southeast London or north London yeah where I was so tranny then yeah when you yeah when you had your allergic reaction at your show yeah so bad it was like so nice it was like you temporarily detransitioned for like an hour Hello.
33:27Hello. I'm Chester, I think. I get recognized by two people at the pub. Yeah. They're really sweet. Yeah. They say like, oh, you put me onto this band. I'm like, oh, that's so nice. You should listen to my music though. Yeah. Anyway, then we go to a house party where we barely know anyone. Yeah. There's like one person from like a kind of flopping South London band there. And someone for a black middy. Yeah. And I asked them for like advice on how to make it in music. And they're like a real dickhead. Yeah. Then we get chucked out because I start berating the South London flop band. Yeah. Yeah.
34:08And then we go to Fold and I don't get let in because they still have my provisional license from when my friend's cousin used it and it didn't work. If anyone from Fold is listening to this, please let me know if I can come back to your club because it would be really nice to know. Yeah. Shall we go? Yeah. I think maybe we should just start going to like Adonis and like Fold. I would love to go to Adonis. And then we should go to Smot. We should go to Smot Press. Yeah. Because I love the Smot guys. And we should go to Toothy Perea. Oh, God. I just know. Even saying that, I'm like, I lied. It's not that I even think it's awful.
34:44I think everyone has a lovely time that it's just not in my soul. But I would like to do it. Musically. I'd like to go to Smot. Yeah. Smot Press. I would love to go to Smot. Yeah. because Jordan from Smot is the love of my life Adonis is like considering you're not the biggest club music person Adonis is one thing Tusi Perea is another level of commitment we should get Smot Press on the pod okay I've already spoke to them about it okay sweet amazing and then probably afters at some Nepo baby's house your house my mum's not here yeah back to uh back to penge or wherever it is not penge i know where it is it's um it's past putney it's called barn i was actually talking to no what's the other one i'm from a place called barnes no yes barnes that's it yeah i tried to fuck a boy there once and he invited me to his house and i went to it and i thought he was gonna fuck me so i do should never think i was like well bloated because i'd like inflated myself whilst do too yeah which is awful and he didn't Fuck me And I just left And he made me a nice meal And was like bye then And he was telling me About this boy that he fancied At least he made you A nice meal And then I had to get The fucking train back From Hinge To South East London He was telling you About another boy he fancied Yeah Yeah at least he made you I once Had That night felt so cold to me I once had a girl back A woman back That's okay A lady And We Had a nice drink And then we came back And then we You know Fooled around and then she immediately left as soon as she came oh was it like sex came?
36:27well I thought you meant like walked through the threshold and was like no this is disgusting fuck this there's mice everywhere there's no loo roll what the fuck is going on? there was no loo roll the other night that's bad that I had to use paper towel to wipe my ass not kind to your ass I'll tell you that much Louise Stand up babe You can't do that I'm gross That's gross If you hadn't worked it out by now That's so Becky Me too I'm gross I'm a tiny little bear I'm so petite I'm such a small little slim thick I'm such a small little slim thick Hourglass figure eight looking bear Just with a bird like appetite And a snatched waist and a batty so fat you can't miss it and plaits like a little school girl I just like it's so funny whenever do you reckon you're a nonce tease with the plaits a nonce tease I thought you were going to say do you reckon you're a nonce I was like no every time I get read online though every time having a guest every guest we've had has been great they're so nice but we could really relax yeah we shout out to all our guests Every time a video goes big on Instagram, so right now the James Joyce one is kind of like circulating on Instagram.
37:50James Joyce is having a moment. He's having a moment. They just read me. They're like, look at Pippi Longstockings. Look at it. What is that? Like they just come for their braids and I'm like, guys, you're going to have to leave me alone. I don't ever look at the comments and I think you should start looking at the comments. I love looking at the comments. It gets me off. I'm scared. I'm not. I do. I have. I am starting to deep the queer beta allegations. Why? Because You don't do anything What do you mean? You're just here with me What does Louis do that like makes him like I don't understand how you bait any gays That's my gag I get well You can't act differently What do you want to do?
38:28Walk into a room like Alright, cut him, treat everyone like a knob What is it? What do you want him to do? Well no, to be honest It's not our audience member It was in a very polite and kind of Yeah, it was a very kind way from two of our previous guests. Yeah, I know. And like, they didn't mean anything badly by it. No, no, I know they didn't. Yeah, because I love those guests, but I think it is like, and this isn't coming for the guests because I literally love them, but it happens a lot. Even like I'm out and they're like, is Louis actually straight? It's like, yeah. And then that's that, what are you meant to do?
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39:02Like, turn up and be nasty. Well, it's the only thing that's making him like, making you gays because you sit here with a trans woman. That's why we're cooked. You spoke about this before. And I do accents. and I can be a bit camp. But so can, like, Harris Dickinson. Yeah. Well, and they paved the way for me. Josh O 'Connor. Josh O 'Connor, wake it up. Yeah. My defense of it has always been, if I was like this at secondary school and got no girls as a result of it, I have the right to be here. I'm sounding like an incel.
39:37When did we turn into Redskirt? Which, honestly, in truth, we had a guest on, we got a guest on Friday, a fucking sick guess we got Sean Fay on we got fucking Sean Fay's on but we filmed it on Monday and we talk about Red Skirt I actually have no idea what it is other than it's that weird looking weirdo that does it so it's so they're like liberal but they're almost liberal to the point that they're like incel right so they Dasha Nabravska she's like rich isn't she I don't I actually don't think she's rich I thought she was like Nepo I don't think she is I think she's actually I can see her now in my mind's eye she's she's from she's born to russian parents moved to new york when she was like four i think she doesn't come from that well of background but i could be wrong but anyway she's that incel-y though isn't it i don't i don't know if you could call it incel because incel is such a male thing but it's like it's all right it's just like yeah yeah general all right like um but like it wasn't and like and like but is it like the alt-right where it's like a left person doing outright but then to the point where it's just outright or she's always been outright kind of basically she used to be she used to be like um kind of what is called the dirt bag left so it was like her like the come town guys like adam friedland and shit and stav and like there was this kind of new york scene of like like grimes type shit yeah kind of like left like ardently left-wing people who are kind of like not necessarily woke yeah or like they're not um kind of morally uh holy now and in fact sometimes they kind of lean into kind of a slightly grotesque yeah thing which is kind of sometimes comedy sometimes who knows but then she kind of just had this big pivot uh where it was like and kind of similarly to how they are or they were all very edgelordy and edgy for the sake of it yeah more than insult okay she kind of took that and then took it to its full extent by pivoting to the far right of politics.
41:41Really? And she's very... She hangs out with Alex Jones, she shoots guns, she believes in trad wife stuff. Really? She doesn't give that from one. The shit that I get from her, I just think she looks weird and she's boring. Well, I mean, I don't really... I've never listened to Red Scout and I don't really follow her stuff that much anymore, but my basic understanding of it is that she just kind of is like full edgelord to the fact where she didn't just do it on the left, but then she pivoted to the right. Okay, she's just fucking weirdo then. She's just fucking weirdo. But if you want to come on the part.
42:17No, not allowed in my harsh freak. I know she smells like monster energy. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Or what's it? Liquid death. That's just water. Yeah. What the fuck are you Yanks doing? Am I allowed to say Yank? Yeah, because they're Americans. What the fuck are you Yanks doing drinking canned water? Is the water that bad? Hello. Hey, Bill.
42:41But yeah, we're not going to have our far... As much as I like to joke about it, we're not going to have our pivot to the right wing any time soon, at least. Unless the bag's really good. No, joking. What have you got to talk about? Oh, well, I've got my Christmas song to sing you. Your phone's dying. It'll be fine. Well, I don't think we have that long left. I think we're on a pretty good time. Should I get my charger just in case? Oh, there's one right here. There's a charger there. It's plugged into the light, isn't it? It's plugged into the fucking light. Oh my God.
43:16I prepared a Christmas song for you and our audience, okay? Yeah.
43:28So, to the tune of Wonderful Christmastime by Paul McCartney. The tension's high My dick is up It's Christmas time And mum please knock Simply having An average Christmas time Okay fair Clutching four Octave down Things to say Small talk or Point at the dog again Simply having An average Christmas time The bridge I'd rather be naked alone The heating on full in my home Ding dong, ding dong Twelve calls from mum Louie, you're a disappointment Your father was right You fucked your whole life
44:34refresh my phone refresh my phone take a sip refresh my phone refresh my phone download hinge I hate myself oh and back again barely managing an average Christmas time Uncle Barry May have just crossed the line Fuck me Fuck me Why did you invite them Please know I can't stand The sight of James Corden
45:19That's so shit Is that short enough for a clip That was so long
45:32lines that didn't make the cut if only I wasn't so spineless I'd batter them the only way hair of the dog a drop of lean fill my cup yeah so that's my that's my interpretation of Christmas okay I decided I didn't realise that you actually went in that hard I'm gonna have to write one and get back to you next time yeah Sue was that our freestyler I just thought we were rapping Your freestyling abilities are something I'm so envious of. I can't lie. Because I literally am a rapture. And that body tea too.
46:08You see the sports video where it's like the girls say, did you ever just come on here and like, everyone's body is just laying. It moved me last night. And then I'm like, wait, I'm laying this body tea. Also, you've got to go soon, babe. I got therapy. Should we do a couple Agni answering? We should. Okay, are you ready? 25, ex-versus, now top, BF won't strap me down. Wait, let me go through that again. 25, ex-versus, now I'm a top, my BF won't strap me down. How to communicate better with ADHD partner as a recovering human doormat. Sorry, sorry, just a set up again. How to communicate better with ADHD partner as a recovering a human doormat yeah but i actually stay in the room stay in the room because we're actually gonna ask for all this i just sometimes can't tell if it's him being rude or the adhd when we're communicating whether either he is giving attention or caring about me as a person because when i'm talking and someone is giving me nothing and not really engaging with me in my head i think they're not interested so then I stop but that's how he always is when I'm talking though he is listening because he will remember it later sometimes so most so most times I took it up to ADHD I'm just reaching out to either have some helpful tips for communicating with someone with ADHD and or know when it's not just a neurodivergent thing and he isn't in that isn't that into me or the relationship anyway love the pod would love to visit London one day now because the pod now because of the pod.
47:50Though for now, I'll just mimic your accents in Western Australia. Shout out to Western Australia. Take it away, Bill. Go on, Bill. What's it? How do you communicate with an ADHD partner? You're beautiful, by the way. You look lang.
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48:41Get the Unreal College deal. Everything you need to study and play with select Windows 11 PCs. Eligible students get a year of Microsoft 365 Premium and a year of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate with a custom color Xbox wireless controller. Learn more at windows.com slash student offer. While supplies last, ends June 30th. Terms at aka.ms slash college pc. I found that when you got your pre-diagnosis, that the acknowledgement of the ADHD can therefore help the community. So the question is, are they actually diagnosed ADHD or is this like, I'm ADHD? Yeah. yeah
49:20yeah it's too speculative right now we don't know what the severity of this diagnosis is there's always nuance yeah I'm not a therapist I'm not professional acne we have our masters in psychotherapy yeah of course I would say can we just give a hand to Bill please
49:48what a lovely young man um i think honestly though i i think i do listen wait sorry are you speaking well as someone with adhd because i got referred yeah um yeah don't get jealous i got the same offer yeah but basically free for a hand job i'll give you a screen forgive me but basically I think that you your partner might just be rude I still listen to my partner I was gonna say like your brain can go on 10 but like listening is or like everyone's different like even removing blame from him this isn't this sounds like it's not working for you yeah and it's also hard like and if you can't do it don't yeah and like it's good yeah it's good that you're trying to seek treatment shout out seek treatment um but and you and you should and you should explore this further because right now it's a bit speculative um but as bill says you need to tell him how you're feeling about this he needs to find out he has adhd but also don't like take adhd out the picture is this working for you like or are you just going insane yeah i think there was there was a good nuance to that question i have seen like someone wrote an article about that like it is my i think it was some novara article it was like is my um my situation ship and not into me or do they just have adhd um and i feel very mixed about that i feel like you oh by light you do have some sympathy to someone who has ADHD that they're not going to be as good at replying to things or attentive sometimes.
51:41But also, there comes a point where it's like, does this work for you? Don't you dare. So don't expend yourself and exhaust yourself. You can still communicate what you need just because someone's got something. If Bill wanted to communicate with me that he felt like something was lacking, like I have to acknowledge because that's part of being in a relationship it's like I might struggle with that thing but I want to acknowledge it like I'd be trying my best right if if every time you mention something they're just like well it's my ADHD so whatever I think it does hit a point where it's like well what's is there a way that we can go forward is there a way that I can get on medication is there a way that like I can make this like better because ultimately you as a person with it I want to do better for my partner as well and if there are days when I can't just get back into bed at midday that's not fair schedule that's why I'm trying to get on medication no I'm not and I can alleviate me being a useless tool sometimes amen amen wake that up well and also you clearly want this to work because you've put so much care into the message you've written us maybe yeah we don't really know if you've communicated that to your partner and there is a way to do it.
53:01You just say like, love you, but like, I'm finding this a little bit hard right now. Is this something that you can work on? Together. Like you shouldn't be, you shouldn't be picking this up alone. Yeah. You need to, need to tell the bitch. You need a free kid. Move on. Do one more maybe, just because I'm aware that you need to get, where's your therapy? It's remote. Shout out remote therapy. Oh, you can do it here if you want. You can go light into a room if you want. It's up to you. I don't know how you move. I can do it I'll decide after Let's do one more Hey cuties, so me and my ex broke up in September after found out he'd stolen money from me to buy weed, he was unemployed and he did get his mum to pay me back so all good apart from being devil and heartbroken He's literally been so annoying since he broke up and he's left his belongings in my flat He's probably made about six different plans to collect his stuff and now saying he will only get a lift to pick his stuff up the day after I'm having a birthday kiki with the girlies in my flat and they will definitely still be there he says he's doing his best to make this as easy as possible for me anyway he was mad collection of pokemon cards from the early 2000s should i slightly damage them returning them or take some sell on ebay's compensation for my broken heart love you girl um if he's been long and he stole money from you he doesn't deserve shit so do what you want love yeah exactly like if he stole from you that's crazy my first boyfriend stole my air max and stole a gold bracelet from me yeah uh so he can dino well we me and my friend kicked him out we're not dying right on but we kicked him out um he fucking stole money from you fuck this guy yeah babe um make it work for your terms okay so yeah don't even let him come after the girlies are in your flat also like just tell him to get lost yeah and like pokemon cards in in 2025 at his big age at his big age come on okay um i think that's pretty simple babe you you rule the roost now this is your roost and if and if you really feel like okay he's a fucking dick but i actually just want to get this over and done with so he stops bugging me is there a um is there a mutual friend that could kind of handle this interaction for you.
55:17An intermediary perhaps who could hand over the Charizard back to its original owner. Wake that up. Or sell his fucking Pokemon cards and live stream it and tag us. Yeah, tag us. And say love you Sue and Lou. You're so good because you're actually one of my favourite podcasts this year and it's actually been a really tough year for me because my boyfriend stole money from me. Yeah. okay all right thank you everyone and thank you for part of your spotify wrapped we love you and we can't wait to bring you more episodes uh sean faye going up on friday and we'll see you just us next week love you bye turn it up storm has zero sugar and 200 milligrams of caffeine so you can turn that workout up a notch good energy in good energy out energy for life
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