east, beefs, peformatif

3 Sep 2025 · 42 min · 20 chapters

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In short

The hosts (Straight Eva) chat about moving from South East London to East London, what “performative” looks like in modern culture (especially men), and a pop-culture “beef” between Lana Del Rey and Ethel Cain. They also debate performative vs genuine activism/politics, tote-bag discourse, and posh “Chelsea life jacket” style. A mailbag segment covers dating/relationship advice, handling a chaotic ex-girlfriend’s TikToks, and a “famous catchphrases from gay icons” game.

Guest backgrounds

No traditional guests; it’s a two-host episode featuring Olivia (from OLLI) as a sponsor read, plus recurring co-hosts Susan and Louzen (the hosts).

Key claims

East London feels more socially mixed than “cool” gentrified areas; “performative males” are more visible online; Lana vs Ethel Cain is fueled by fanbase shifts and petty history; blocking/ignoring a cheating ex’s harassment is best.

Notable examples

London Fields “shelf life” talk; Lana’s Waffle House shade; Nikki Minaj involvement; Wayne Lineker cock-gossip; Stephen Hawking impression joke; Chelsea life jacket/posh-core fashion.

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Chapters

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Catch Up and Weekend Plans

0:04 to 0:28

The hosts discuss recent events in their lives and upcoming weekend plans.

“Back to school season can be tough on parents, but choosing a snack you and your kids can both get behind doesn't have to be.”

Catch Up and Weekend Plans

1:06 to 2:39

The hosts discuss recent events in their lives and upcoming weekend plans.

“Thank you, it's from a restaurant in Marseille.”

Moving and Leaving South London

2:39 to 4:23

Discussion about leaving South London and the emotional impact of moving.

“I've just been like taking shit out of the calendar, actually.”

Cultural Differences in London Areas

4:23 to 7:14

Exploring the differences between South East London and East London.

“No, this is a lovely house to stay in forever really.”

Perceptions of East London

7:14 to 8:59

The hosts share their views on the perception and reality of living in East London.

“They don't want to let go of their coolness, their youth.”

Celebrity Feuds: Lana Del Rey vs. Ethel Kane

8:59 to 14:00

Analyzing the ongoing beef between Lana Del Rey and Ethel Kane.

“Obviously, it's an amazing building, amazing estate, really cool pedestrian, whatever.”

Evolving Fan Dynamics Around Lana Del Rey

14:00 to 16:40

Discussion on the changing fan culture and competition between artists.

Personal Connections to Music and Identity

16:40 to 19:20

Exploring personal experiences with music and the connection to identity.

“like trans divas and looking exactly the same yeah I would like a photo with her I feel like I will meet her in a few years I don't think that's off the cards and maybe like a give me like a UK potential op what me?”

Competitive Dynamics in the Music Industry

19:20 to 22:40

Discussion about competition and rivalries within the music scene.

“I wouldn't do a whole song about someone.”

Cancellations and Controversies in Comedy

22:40 to 25:50

Conversations about the fear of cancellation and comedic boundaries.

“And the other rumor, well, it's not a rumor.”
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Gossip and Reality TV Insights

25:50 to 28:00

Sharing juicy gossip and opinions on reality TV personalities.

“that was the cancellation and gossip segment with Straight Diva okay let's do your game so this is called famous catchphrases okay but the famous catchphrases from gay icons.”

Introduction to Mailbag Segment

28:00 to 29:04

The hosts introduce the mailbag and discuss their feelings.

“No I'm feeling great Look at this cross-dressy picture of Bill How much of a cross-chesters are not there?”

Philosophical Discussion on Visibility

29:04 to 29:51

A conversation about performative actions and philosophical questions of existence.

“Does his tote bag even smell like amber leaf and Aesop hand cream?”

Debate on Performative Males

29:51 to 30:34

Discussion on the prevalence of performative males in society and its implications.

“So a tote bag alleviates the back sweat situation of a backpack.”

The Impact of Social Media

30:34 to 31:28

The hosts explore how social media influences behavior and public perception.

“I do like a tote bag to go to the shops and stuff.”

Critique of Political Figures

31:28 to 33:34

Discussion on political figures and the need for new leadership.

Critique of Political Figures

33:38 to 34:26

Discussion on political figures and the need for new leadership.

“But choosing a snack you and your kids can both get behind doesn't have to be.”

Advice on Relationships

34:26 to 36:14

Hosts provide advice on handling relationships and exes.

“These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.”

Navigating Teenage Relationship Drama

36:14 to 42:01

Discussion surrounding a listener's complex relationship situation involving an ex.

“I think it's grotesque, but I just think it's a horrible style anyway.”

Navigating Cheating and Reactions

42:01 to 43:34

Discussion on how to handle situations involving cheating and reactions to it.

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Transcript

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0:00This episode is brought to you by Welch's Fruit Snacks. Back to school season can be tough on parents, but choosing a snack you and your kids can both get behind doesn't have to be. Stock up on Welch's Fruit Snacks, made with whole fruit, and now made with no artificial dyes. It's a snack kids already love, and one you can feel good about giving them. Go back to school with Welch's Fruit Snacks, now made with no artificial dyes. Hey friends, Olivia from OLLI. Between new routines and the ultimate group project known as parenting, you need science-backed solutions that work with your life. That's where Oli comes in.

0:37Start your mornings off right with Maltese made to support nutrition and immune health. Choose from our lineup of gut-supporting probiotics, and we've got occasional sleep support to help the whole fan chase their big dreams. Head back to class with the number one gummy supplement brand. Stock up on Oli.com today. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Hi, Susan. Hi, Louzen. You all right, love? Good, thank you. How are you? I'm gorgeous, thank you. Welcome to Straight Eva. Why is it called that?

1:04Because I'm straight. And I'm a diva. Haven't done that one in a while. I know, God, how strange. It's been ages since I've seen you. Yeah, you're looking well. Thanks, how are you? Nice top. Thank you, it's from a restaurant in Marseille. Oh, you were doing so well. And the sponsor is Anora. No, Anora, that's the restaurant. It was lovely though. You went to Marseille? No. Yeah. How was the one evening since I last saw you? It was nice We had a couple friends around Harry and Ellie And we made them like basically baked beans on a potato We? Bill made them Bill made them something and I sat there Bill made them baked beans on a jacket potato And then you had baked beans on toast for breakfast Yeah I did How do you feel about that?

1:54I'm all for it Yeah same I feel good, I feel very bright and early I'm glad that we're up and doing it Yeah? Yeah, because you're going to Scotland. I'm going to Scotland today. So we're doing an early pod. And there was so much shit we didn't talk about yesterday. Yeah. That is left over. We got a couple of stupid current affairs to talk about. We've got some questions from the audience, from our lovely... Still don't have a name for our... I mean, obviously it could be divas, but... Yeah, it was obvious. It feels too unpredictable. Yeah. but I'm going to Scotland this weekend for a little what are you going for just four weeks yeah from Thursday this evening till Monday four days oh nice gorgeous yeah long weekend and you've got a session today I've got a session writing for a project that I actually can't talk about oi and I'm writing for a new project now and I don't want to spoil that one I heard what it's about and it does sound does sound pretty good it sounds good you're dead smart with that Thank you.

2:59Thank you. Do you have any fun weekend plans? No, I actually don't. Well, obviously, obviously. I've just been like taking shit out of the calendar, actually. No, it's more over that I need to go clean my house that I just left or pick up my stuff. Right. A few other things as well. Actually, fucking let's talk about that. how does it feel to be leaving South East London, the place that maybe made you in a lot of ways? It does feel, it's weird. It almost feels, I feel like this whole year, and I know we've repeatedly said it, but it's just like this whole year is just happening. And I feel like every week it's just like, oh, I'm doing this now.

3:38Oh, I've just done that. Oh, Santa Racketale. Oh, I'm doing this. I'm doing that. And so I'm just like, oh, I've just moved in with my boyfriend in a completely different part of London that I don't know really that well. Like I really don't know East at all. So it feels weird because I would consider myself a South Diva. Obviously, everyone from South London who's born there is going to be like, you're a gentrifying little prick. But I was there seven years. Whereas in Hackney, it's like so much further along that it's like you blend in. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Whereas it was like, you know, I was in South seven years.

4:08We all went to uni there. Yeah, it was lovely. So I'm going to miss it. Like the intention is I'm moving in here and then we're going to save up and buy a house in South. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. like we're not trying to stay in East London. Okay. You can take the girl out of the hood. No, this is a lovely house to stay in forever really. Yeah. For sure. Quite lucky. What are you going to miss most about South London, South East London? Honestly, the close vicinity to my friends. Yeah. And like the, I think one thing that I kind of like, I'm very aware of is like, I need to actively make like, not make new friends, but I need to make an effort with my friends who live East.

4:42So they become the friends that I can just run and get a coffee with, you know? Because that's like, of the friends from south are like she switched up yeah because like laura like zoo yeah she a hoe like laura like zoo like francis like they're not down the road anymore like we have to plan things you know like james and uh like josey like i don't amara moved back to fucking switzerland like it's like everyone's like kind of left so i'm like the band is splitting up yeah basically and now i'm in east with bill and you i'm not in fucking east do not relegate me to these fucking pits i'm happy and I like it here and I do really like it here and it is my proper like yummy mummy fantasy.

5:20Yeah. For international listeners. I have a nice elf. I'm trying to get my hand now. Look, she's attacking me. For international listeners, if you're not from London, how would you describe... How? Sophie, how would you describe South East London and like kind of... South East London to me... Stop it now, you do my head in. South East London to me feels like... Hmm. South East London to me feels like where I grew up it feels like Derby if it's like Nottingham I feel like there's like there's like it feels like where the real people are in my opinion like in East like especially like where I live like it's like you go down like London Fields and it's just like everyone's like young and like you which obviously people like because it's like everyone's there that you know but where I'm from is like I'm from the middle of nowhere and like you have to like and you there's a community loads of different people living together and I think that's what self is to me yeah it's less overtly young professional or just young people it's more mixed nationalities, different like I don't know, backgrounds, everyone's in a social I think that's the funniest thing that I find about London everyone's from such you'll have like a whole new build block of farts and then you'll have a council block of farts and then you'll have like there'll be like a millionaire living next to someone that is on benefits.

6:44Right. Is this dreadful to say? No, no. I feel like that. That is true. London, it's like, like where I'm from, I'm from like a small village called South Normanton. It's like a mining town. Right. Kind of like a, I don't want to say deprived, but a deprived mining town. That's where I grew up. I almost think a forgotten mining town. Yeah. I mean, what mining towns haven't been forgotten, sadly? Well, do you know what I mean? Thanks, Maggie. That's where I'm from. And that's the thing that I find so funny, not funny, but weird about London is it's like, you could have like a millionaire living next door to someone that has like hardly any money you know and like it's weird yeah it's such a strange experience but that's what i actually like in some ways about like southeast london or north london where i live and maybe well hackney does have it but like a lot of east london feels just like it doesn't feel like a mix at all yeah like and though that's what i'd love living near east london but not any something because you can dip into this kind of where everyone is fun party cool whatever it is but to be involved in that it doesn't feel real almost like in a lot of ways that like other parts of london do feel just more like a normal mix of different people from different lives i'm gonna say this now and it's gonna annoy people but i think in my opinion unless you're like from east london east london isn't like i can't believe that people are like moving to east london and being like i'm gonna have like moving to london fields walking down london fields and just think do you know what will be good for me here yeah like i'm gonna have a baby in london fields like it's such like a young area now don't get me wrong people that live here it's completely different different conversation i'm only talking about people that have like clearly moved to east london because it's cool or whatever how can you go to this place which literally as you walk through london fields like as at night on the weekend it's like everyone's awake 24 hours how How would you look at that area and be like, do you know what, I'm going to buy property there because I want to raise a child.

8:43Yeah. I think it's... Like, the sun doesn't exist. They can't fathom growing old. Yeah. They don't want to let go of their coolness, their youth. I'm going to get a lie. Yeah. It's like living in the Barbican as well. Why is that? Exactly. Why is that? Obviously, it's an amazing building, amazing estate, really cool pedestrian, whatever. Architecture's great. I'm not going to pay... I'm going to live there. I'm not going to live there I'm not going to pay Out of my fucking ass When I see people Living in Soho Like I know a few people That live in Soho What are you doing I originally moved to Soho And he's like fucking I don't know what street He was on But it's just like You live in Soho Yeah Why Yeah Why That's not like living Right I don't know It feels weird to me I don't know Obviously that's not Discounting the people That like literally Would brought up In fucking Soho Or East London Whatever like East London has got An amazing community It's just like Specifically when you look at like i don't know i don't know i just think london fields is a general area like it's just kind of like it's so like young and weird like i don't want to live here too long yeah do you know what i mean like yeah like it's just like it's got a shelf life yeah it feels like an experience or it feels like it's like um it's like berlin or something watch me live here forever now yeah i wonder if it will i wonder it like i feel like that does happen like like a creative or whatever A generation of people move to an area and they just stay there.

10:09And that area ages with that. With them. Well, it will, won't it? It's like, but I think we're too young for it. I think it's like the people who are now like 35 to 40, that they're going to age with like, because they're the ones having kids. Right. Whereas like, I feel like, I feel like our generation would be south. True. But yeah, just for a little primer, East London Hackney is the, is the super now cool gone too far overpriced yeah super gentrified but very lovely area southeast london slightly behind younger more creative more crusty yeah more wizards more weirdos more tweed still a lot of posh people you're not going to escape that anywhere in london Dollege exists, doesn't it?

10:59Yeah. Goldsmiths, obviously. And then there isn't really another part of London that's at all relevant. It's just those two. And I feel that's true. What are you most excited about living in East London? Like outside of, you know, Sophie or your boyfriend? I was going to say my boyfriend.

11:21I honestly don't know. Like I really... There's nothing. I really... There's nothing. I'm really I've got to like learn Yeah Yeah what's about I just want to learn Yeah like I really don't know I really don't know Like I'm here because We're beautiful boyfriends here And Sophie's here And like we wanted to live together Like I'll figure out what I like about the area I think I'm going to start going tennis And badminton and shit Yeah Let's start there But like I mean that this house is unreal And like I'm in this house all the time Are you going to be leaving any ops behind In South East London?

11:54Bare ops Yeah? No, no, no. Not really. Ex-boyfriends leave. Because one thing we didn't talk about yesterday. My brother's in South, so we don't talk to him. Well, good riddance. Goodbye. One op, or two ops, we didn't talk about yesterday was Miss Lana Del Rey and Miss Ethel Kane, which obviously now, by the time this episode comes out, you might be thinking, fucking hell, lads, like I could have done with this two weeks ago, maybe. I think it's going to be an endless feud. I think people are still talking about it like it came out yesterday. so there were weight comments there was a Waffle House thing so basically if the business is true but essentially that you let your mom in the head on this week's episode of if the business is true Lana versus Effel this is who I think I think that they're both they're both their mom's a hoe no

12:50basically Lana made this thing she was working in a Waffle House this was ages ago because there was already a thing about oh no yeah who had the waffle house first ethel k basically was like she was like i want waffle house i don't want to be famous yeah i want to work in a waffle house yeah so then six like six months ago lana just randomly worked in a waffle house no one put two and two together at that time yeah right and then apparently there was like comments made by ethel secretly um about like lana's way it's like in a rough whatever to just mate or something no evidence of this no evidence but lana says she heard it yeah so then And Lana uploads that thing with her being like, Ethel Cain didn't like my whatever it says in the song.

13:28My Instagram post, something like that. Petty bars, love it. So stupid. And then it's like dragged, and then she says something about the Waffle House, and then it basically turns out that Lana saw this six months ago and was shading it. So it's almost like Lana's coming about for seconds with the song about her. She's hungry. And that's why she did the Waffle House thing to take the piss out of Ethel Cain, basically. So then everyone's like, oh my God, this is like layers and layers on it and then ethel kane put on a story lana del rey has marked apple cane on instagram which i think is really fierce on her own story and then nikki minaj got involved and started like come on nikki minaj obviously she's everywhere she's so julia she's like there can't be a beef no and i i'm not i can't gain off of it she was like singing it on like twitter i was like what the i do think from my limited understanding of this beef that it's like all probably gonna end fine and it might just be like good for both of them what made me kind of like oh my god is like it's made me realize like people stand lana but to the point of like lana is their god i've just realized that like ethel is like not saying ethel's a new lana i'm saying that ethel's got such a strong fan base now like people are like ethel till i die and i'm just kind of like oh my god times have changed like usually there was like you know if lana went up against anyone i think everyone right but now people are like coming to like lana's washed like forever like i'm like oh my god like we have a new like right contender cool icon yeah i guess get them on the misfits boxing i followed like ethel since she had like i think it was like 20 000 followers it's like a million wow but like it's just it's just weird now that she's kind of like this like cool icon so did you know her before uh just before crush came out wow so like inbred how did you discover i honestly can't remember i was thinking about that the other day i have no idea and i remember of seeing the crush video and i was in a really toxic relationship at the time and it made me feel it made it made me do the lana thing where you romanticize your own pain um and i was like oh my god that's amazing um and then i was just obsessed and then i found out she was trans and it was amazing let's go um do you have a side from the shit that i've seen it's not that i'm picking a side but like apple really hasn't done anything at this moment in and I think actually if she did it she would have said it do you know what I mean but who knows just on the fans thing as well it brought me back into Twitter or X for the first time in fucking ages and I was so happy to get immediately straight out of there because it did show me I think I forgot you don't really see it on TikTok as much Stan culture it's just more like people reporting on it and actually it was much more Lana sided and it was like oh you're surprised by all this you know racist yeah homophobic i was like what have i missed yeah it's crazy um but you know i kind of think maybe this is maybe this is good i mean i think it's a little bit of healthy competition never hurt nobody well it's true but i just think it's so funny that there's two so i think impersonators just fighting yeah who's your who do you think you might have beef with like who's who's your lana would start me lana would start on you i don't think me and like trans divas and looking exactly the same yeah I would like a photo with her I feel like I will meet her in a few years I don't think that's off the cards and maybe like a give me like a UK potential op what me?

16:59yeah I mean I could pick a few we won't be kind there's quite a few okay well don't you just want to like op people I just see like UK musicians doing it and I'm like do you want to know who my op is who diags who's diag from towie you never watched howie yeah who's diag though diags is like see this exactly proves my point no diags it the heads know who diag is yeah but he's never got the the wider approval of a mark right or an arch okay um but the heads know that he is the funniest fucker that's ever been on that show fucking diags bro dark horse you know you know but like also another like obvious James Bennett, Benwin, Benwith.

18:01Another obvious op for me. Oh, I do know him, yeah. Yeah. Another obvious op for me is like, there's just so many because obviously the creative industry is so rampantly posh and there are so many people who look like me who are shit. Yeah. So like you've got Henry Rowley. Yeah. You've got, do you know who Arthur Hill is? Yes. Like, and there's just that. that list of that list of men it could go on and on actors and the great thing is is that like you know because everyone's posh no would you act though i would love to act yes but because you know they're all posh nobody's actually going to get physical with each other yeah he would be my up like realistically on social media it's someone who's eating from the same pie as you which i don't think i don't think anyone is i think we do separate things i think the people in our world like OPR and Ops I love those girls down yeah I also don't think like presenter who else what Leia she's not an op I love her nah Leia's an op Leia knows she's an op it's a healthy op but like none of them are op Reese DeVay she's not an op she's a friend I'm just thinking of all no Amy Spaulding you're not a presenter you do presenting no no I'm a new musician okay we'll talk about music who's on my level for real who's doing it like me though Music wise And visually Yeah Like I've just started Really Me doing it 10 years I've just started Like who though Who's like me Chat Drop her Drop Sue's up in the Yeah Tell me my up The only up you can say Is F.O.K.

19:45That's it Or that Audrey What's her name We've seen the new trans diva She's best friends With Gracie Abrams Audrey Hobart Yeah But she's just trans Like that's the only Yeah but let's not They don't have to be trans No but they'll pit me against the trans girls Let's be real I don't think they will Maybe I'm being you know Too optimistic Who would I want to be my up? I don't know Who would be my up? I don't know I think like I don't really I don't think anyone It's got to be trans sis if anything To fucking light the narrative up Yeah I don't I think if someone said for me as well I'd just laugh I think that's more said the thing I'd just like okay Would you ever do like a diss track?

20:25No no No. No? Would you? No. God, no. I do a TikTok. Actually, Von Dutch was kind of... A light diss track. Yeah. It was subtle enough. I wouldn't do a whole song about someone. Simply Is The Knife is about Taylor Swift. Yeah. I wouldn't, you know, go like, this is the... Yeah, fuck this bitch. This is the wily diss. No, no, no, no, no. And also that's messy. It's far too uncouth. And also you might lose. Yeah, exactly. I think if you start dissing people, then they come back harder and you're just like... I mean, it'll not be funny if I try to diss anyone, they could probably just screen record a bunch of Straight Diva clips and then just ruin my career.

21:04So I've got to keep my mouth closed. Brilliant. Okay. What do you think from Straight Diva you could get cancelled over? I know exactly what it'll be. Not that we said anything wrong. I don't know. I think we could divide an opinion. What do you think? The Stephen Hawking story. What was the Stephen Hawking... Where my ex would get with his girlfriend and pretend to be Stephen Hawking. Didn't we cut that? No, it's out there. It's out there? Yeah. I think that's fucking hilarious. Well, we've done it now. So, double clip this shit. Yeah. I think we cut out my Stephen Hawking's impression. Okay.

21:43I really wanted to... What impression? Oh no, maybe it was in. I think it was in. I think you wanted to cut it out. I was like, I need the impression in it. but that's you not me I was just recalling a story I don't think we're going to get cancelled even though you know I have that concern every single day I have it every day in fact before I went on holiday that was the thing that killed me one of the last podcasts we did I clipped like five bits and then Louis texted me and was like do you enjoy any of this and I was like yeah fair actually oh I know what I would get done for is doing impressions that people think are offensive yeah fair uh but i currently think that it's like there's none of the impressions i do are insulting no like i feel like there's you can do impressions of in my opinion in any nationality or culture but and there's a way of like doing it in an insulting stereotypical way that feeds into like bad stereotypes and there's a way that's like interesting and respectful i think that but there's a lot of people who disagree with that and that's fine when we eventually probably do get cancelled unfortunately because it's coming it's gonna be over the most stupid it's gonna it's gonna be over the most stupid yeah it'd be like not even a thing that we ever ever thought i don't think we're big enough to be cancelled yet either though i think people still want us to win i think you have to be like you get to like you know yeah it's like when they're doing like have you seen that morning girl that morning yeah obviously yeah everyone's now putting things up being like oh we're just like here come the morning was never funny tiktoks you know what i mean and then it's like it's the same they tried to alex conzoni whether she's not even funny it's like she's really funny and you're actually just fucking you have to get like half a mil to start getting yeah i agree because otherwise let's not cancel us let's cancel eating with todd let's start there apparently the oh this might be a straight diva exclusive i've got two fucking straight diva exclusives i could drop right now okay so the first one is um the top jaw guy apparently he got married in spain recently if i yeah and all his mates as a surprise flew out eating with todd to just come and be at the wedding like a fucking stripper or something.

24:10That's sick. Sorry, that's hilarious. And the other rumor, well, it's not a rumor. I've fucking seen it with my very own eyes. But someone showed me a video. Of? Of Wayne Lineker's cock. Basically, it's Wayne Lineker at Obeach. Yeah. He's behind the decks. Yeah. I obviously recognise it at the fucking back of my hand. Yeah, yeah, because you love it there. And he's, you know, he's filming himself on someone else's phone, it looks like, and he's quite drunk, and he's like, you know, doing that, showing different people, but with the front-facing camera, classic kind of boomer move. And then he goes back to him, and, you know, he's got his inflatable fucking face and his saggy lips, and then, all of a sudden, he just goes down the pants.

25:01And it's not looking good, Brev. Is it not? No. Not fierce. It was, let me tell you, more pubes than I was expecting. Like very pubic. I thought a man like Wayne Lineker would be quite metrosexual, very trimmed, very well-groomed. And... What, is it a London strip? No, it was full bush. Wayne's got full bush. Full bush in a bikini? But he won't let his women have any bush, will he, Wayne? Hmm? Pedo. You fucking nonce. anyway now we're going to get done for defamation I retract the nonce comment that was just a joke but I did see a cock and it was it's like sore eyes it was funny let's just leave it at that

25:47anything more on cancellations? no I don't think so that was the cancellation and gossip segment with Straight Diva okay let's do your game so this is called famous catchphrases okay but the famous catchphrases from gay icons. Okay. So you've got to guess who they are. Okay. Right. First off is don't make me call Portia. Don't make me call Portia. And you can have a clue as well if you want. Yeah, give me a clue. Housewives of Atlanta. Oh, I only know Cardi B. That's love and hip hop. I don't know anyone from fucking Housewives of Atlanta. It's NeNe Leakes. NeNe Leakes You know NeNe Leakes No You must have seen that meme Where I said Ooh child the ghetto Just like walking Ooh the ghetto I think I've seen that Yeah Okay next one Calling all the basic bitches Calling all the basic bitches You're basic I'm gonna go Rosa Parks No it was Lohantani He's now straight Woah Yeah he's like They got another one Yeah it's bad Like he believes in God No Is that like a gossip account that's out to find these people.

27:02He's just like crazy. He was such a gay young kid and he was getting big. He was in films of Timmy Fichalamet and then he gets addicted to drugs and then he turns up and he loves on God and he talks about God now and he's straight. Anyway. What happened? I don't know. It's kind of sad. She done already done had herses. She done already had herses. Piers Morgan? Yeah, close. It's RuPaul. What context was Ru saying that in? It's like a catchphrase. She done already read their houses. It's like she heard it in the line of like Burger King or something. She's already got hers. Oh. Yeah. That fat ass.

27:42Yeah. And finally, you might know this one. Gemma is a fat cunt. You always say that. Yeah. Because you're fat phobic. Yeah. Pretty much. Pretty much. Gemma is a fat cunt. I'm going to go Arj on Towie.

28:00It's Tiffany Oh The goat Yeah The goat Reality TV's like Maybe we should do reality TV like goats And she would win She'd win Okay great segment Sue Thanks babe Maybe we should go to the mailbag now The mailbag We're at 11.17 Oh yeah Yeah? Yeah How are you feeling? Yeah good Are you feeling good? No I'm feeling great Look at this cross-dressy picture of Bill How much of a cross-chesters are not there? Popatroni Looks so awkward for a performer He looks so in pain having his picture taken Actually speaking of We watched Bill the other day in X-Men Who is that? Lengers Watched Bill the other day and he's quite good He speaks in German quite good He's very good obviously And then they shoot his mum It's crazy Bill's young Magneto in X-Men For anyone who didn't know that I didn't know that until yesterday um okay so on our story sorry when do you need to leave uh probably at 11 30 we'll probably get ready to go like 11 30 like okay cool um so in our mailbag this week folks um two got asked best tanning spots for being performative yeah and similarly i got asked if a performative male reads Sally Rooney in a forest and nobody's there to see him.

29:25Does his tote bag even smell like amber leaf and Aesop hand cream? Very good stuff. That's really good. Very good stuff. But the answer is no. Yeah. I've never got that. If a tree falls in a forest and nobody's there to hear it, did it really fall? Yes. Or how did it get on the fucking ground? Was there a sound? Was there a sound? Did it make a sound? Yeah. Well, yes, it did. It's just nobody heard it. Obviously, no. Yeah, but then that's like to the grand scheme of like shouting it to avoid it. basically means two podcasters try to talk about philosophy but i feel like i'm seeing it a lot on my feed right now as i as i often say there's a lot of discourse at the moment around i would say there was a thing there was a new york times smear piece trying to come up against us and our tote bags really i do hate tote bags i love tote bags sue me i used to love them so much as like you You guys know I run hot, okay?

30:17I'm a sweaty dude, okay? So a tote bag alleviates the back sweat situation of a backpack. And I'm not going to wear these fucking shoulder bags that y 'all are wearing. That's what I wear. No, no, no, no, no. That's too far gone. Have a party bag. I'm not a new age hipster. I'm an old age hipster. Oh, yeah, okay. Why don't you like tote bags? Because I kind of like did them out. I do like a tote bag to go to the shops and stuff. but I think you need like a like a like a leather bag or like a side bag with a tote bag in it to then possibly wear the tote bag as well I like a tote bag that isn't in the traditional shape yeah nice so I've got one at the moment that which I thought was really cool and then my friend I just robbed it from my house didn't know whose it was and um I've since found out that I'm sporting a tote bag that uh is the brand is called Flora which is apparently a workspace oh yeah I saw it yesterday yeah it is nice that's a really nice one so obviously slightly embarrassing that i'm sporting a workspace tote bag but i'm just gonna ride it nice nice nice bag but sue i think i want to ask you do you think do you think there's too many performative males do you think do you think we've what do you think because obviously this is my cult this is my culture you're talking about right now do you think there's too many probably however i'd rather have a performative male than an awful male i'd rather have an awful male pretending yeah just pretend yeah at least he like pretends he thinks I should have rights do you know what I mean yeah better that than Andrew Tate yeah um but like I wonder if it's even it makes me think of like when people can think like oh twitter is like polarized everyone like everyone's so different politically is it that or is it just that we have much more exposure to it I think it is the exposure and I think also I think people aren't scared to say it anymore I think there was like a bit of like I think people are just leaning into being awful human beings Yeah And also there are more eyeballs than ever It's never been this easy to make an Instagram story And show off But also like Is it just like Anytime anyone does anything that's like Slightly good Yeah It's like I don't know Do you reckon Martin Luther King was promoting civil rights Just to fucking get pussy Well I hope not for him But maybe Do you reckon if Rosa Parks had Raya She would have been like You know Called performative Yeah So it's always the men When are the hoes gonna get When are the mbs gonna get a called performative You seen that You seen that New York line cook You seen that New York line cook Today I've got coffee and a Tupperware I got a baked potato Why is it always the men What about the hoes There's the issue You've answered it girl where are the hoes do i not get hose pass i'm gonna say no chad do i get a hose pass sorry i shouldn't say hose sorry um

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34:36Oi, Faze, let me get your BB pin. Come to one of these marches. How you move so nice. You're dreadful. Yeah, you could come through with Zara. But they're trying to, like, say... They're trying to change the name of your party to something else. My party? Oh, sorry. Ah! No, but they're trying to call it something else. I just thought it was like face it was called your party. I don't know. Also, they still don't have an Instagram. What's going on there? Yeah. Guys? And I know everyone loves Jeremy Corbyn. I don't think he should be the face of it. Actually, no, I regressed on that. I think he needs to be the face of it, and then he needs to step aside because they'll ultimately get more sign-ups.

35:20So shout out Jeremy Corbyn. Good to see you back in the public eye, mate. Good for you, girl. Shame you're so insecure Why are you being so hateful towards Jeremy? Because like Trying to get us right Yeah He just He's too insecure He's too fragile I don't think so And I want I basically want a new face Of like That political movement But there will be now And he's opened his space up And I just feel like He's Monday Yeah I wish I wish someone I basically wish Ash Sarkar was Leader of your party Yeah she might be Okay Are there indicators If when I'm meeting someone new And then hanging out one on one If there's potential for hitting it off Or should it stay platonic I'm interested in someone but actually have no clue If they're interested in dating at the minute or not I think you should just do it Yeah what are we waiting for Well because that was the same with me and Bill I just made it very known that I wanted to be with him And then this worked out didn't it for I have enough yeah we have enough friends so and you probably do too fuck it and then if they say no be like alright let's be mates then easy exactly and then then you um go out with someone else and then they're like ooh yeah hang on a minute I lost that link thing yeah easy done um okay Levi asks need the straight diva take on posh core Chelsea life jacket schooner scorer the maiden chelsea geezer from infernos archie curzon l now i know what all of those things are do you know what any of those things are i think i know like the first half so let me give a little primer on on the chelsea life jacket core posh core i feel like it's maybe a direct movement against a lot of maybe people like me maybe a lot of like londoners that you hang out with who are progressive maybe people are like going back to their roots like yeah like you know there's a lot of people in london especially that are like I don't want to talk about I'm ashamed and it's quite British generally to be like I'm not going to brag about my wealth or my status and you know if Kendall Roy is the Laura Piana quiet luxury these guys the Chelsea life jacket they are the obnoxious as fuck unabashed we are rich and in some ways I guess it's like do you admire the fact that they are so openly fucking materialistic and rich?

38:11Yeah. Or do you think it's grotesque? I think it's grotesque, but I just think it's a horrible style anyway. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. If it was like, if the clothes they were wearing were nice, but they're wearing like... If they came out full runway, great, but you're wearing polo. Yeah, it's just Ralph Lauren polo, like green, pink striped jumper. You look shit. And you all have the same hair And I don't care that you've got money Because you look boring Yeah And yeah And your name's Tilly Oi Naked Some of my best friends are called Tilly I know I was aiming at her I have friends who are called Tilly I've got my polo underneath my jacket Should we do An agony arm Yeah It's quite a biggie you ready straightest gay people howl see she's bisexual yeah meh she doesn't shut up about being gay you ready um so ready Sue and Lou I have a major agony on and have zero clue where to post it so please help agony on hey Sue and Lou I'm a 17 year old straight white girl from Rex of North Wales in need of some expert advice currently I'm in year 12 summer going into my last year but in September I joined a new 6th form with a couple of school friends I met this boy in English class and we sort of hit it up zero flirting at anything just good conversation until i found out that he had a girlfriend that he had been with since they were like 14 they'd been on holidays aboard together the whole thing at the time he met his girlfriend he wouldn't let any girls she wouldn't let any girls on snapchat for him very difficult for group presentations she was extremely open she was extremely overprotective to the point where me and him were harmlessly talking i know that might be difficult to believe and her friend took a photo of us and sent it to his girlfriend he was then banned from speaking to me something i didn't know around april time he found out during an english session that his overprotected girlfriend had gone to a college party due to them being in different schools and kissed a guy there he was low-key heartbroken they broke up a month later me and him have been going out and are now dating but in the past couple of months his cheating ex-girlfriend has been messaging him his mother his younger sister and one of his co-workers asking for a second chance with him and if she's able to send his little sister a birthday gift at first i thought this was funny until i saw the tiktok she made about him being the love of her life or just photos of them making out while she knew we were together.

40:30She's also been reposting videos about how her ex is now with a side hoe, to the point where random people are messaging her reposting TikToks to me because it's so awkward. I'm happy to show screenshots. Girlies, how the fuck am I... Screenshots. Girlies, how the fuck am I able to control this crazy ex? Sorry if this is long. Timeline, he broke up with his ex in March and April and started dating me in July. Wow! What an honour, can I say. Thank you for that message thank you for that message i didn't know we had all of you i've seen you in i've seen you in comments before and you're i didn't know we had audience members that young to be honest 17 crazy one thing i will say school issues i feel like that was date that was i was transported back we are too we are almost too old to be like what's it like when people are making tiktoks about people usually when i grew up it was like tweets you tweet form spring or something you ever form spring form spring was brutal but it was like you'd go and ask a family call them a that bitch or something yeah i mean like but tiktok's is crazy at least this has a face to it yeah at least you know who it is well she's been a desperate gal like if anything you should say to your boyfriend to say to all his family members and friends to like block her and this might look take the positive out of this this might you know position you well for a career in crisis pr yeah because if you can deal with this you can deal with anything sweet deal with the zealy banks but i don't really know like there's nothing you can do bar block her and just get on with it she'll stop yeah because she knows that she's been desperate as well yeah i guess also she cheated so like live with it yeah so this is what cheats do they just like rock out for a little bit and try to like yeah maybe check in with your boyfriend see how he's feeling about it every now and then but i think a great um motto to live by is don't worry about what you can't control Exactly, that is such a good point Thank you And you really can't control this Apart from blocking her And you know, you could You could send her a message But I don't know what that would do Probably, yeah, probably won't do much And you could argue that the cold shoulder And just not even acknowledging it Is a more powerful treatment Yeah, I think that's more fierce She wants your reaction, that's why she's doing it You don't post TikToks for no reaction As we both know And also like yeah again going back to crisis well i don't know fuck the crisis pr angle the she's making herself look a dickhead yeah don't stop it like um just let the dickhead be a dick yeah don't interrupt the dickhead making a fool of themselves why would you why would you want to do that like she's she's fighting a losing battle by you just doing the laissez-faire thing so don't if she had a if she was winning you know the trust of your boyfriend's mum yeah or or she different then you know maybe you would have to start getting proactive but right now just enjoy get a bag bucket of popcorn and enjoy the show yeah enjoy the show folks smashed it yeah yeah and that's 11 31 and sue's gonna go right up Banger!

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