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0:10李 李 李 李 李 李 李 Are you my mommy? Mummy I used to get the shit out of me as a kid Are you my mummy? Can you remember that? No Doctor Who Were you not a Doctor Who D-bor? No God And you went to posh school So I went to posh school While my dad and I I went to posh school But I never watched Doctor Who Chilling on my wands Having a wank in the school loose Ooh

0:48didn't get any goals i didn't have a fucking clue david tennant's lovely matt smith smells like poo matt smith gives me the ick he likes going to ibiza though i know and oh no i can't tell that story really we're off to a ripper it's because it's not my story to tell and it includes matt Well, maybe you could talk about it on our Patreon episode this week. And what did we talk about in last week's episode? Last week's episode, we spoke about child acting and how weird it is that child actors have been on the cover. Underage raves, how weird that is. Growing up in a small town. How weird it is that we both fancy kids.

1:31No. I just finished watching Broadchurch. That's not funny. Do you remember Broadchurch? Did you watch Broadchurch? I never watched it. I don't watch TV. Broadchurch. Yeah. Fuck. I've been rewatching Broadchurch, everyone. Is it Coleman? It's about nonsense and that. Is it Coleman? Yeah, it is. It's her stand up. I think that was kind of like the thing that tipped her into being like a movie store. Oh, really? Yeah. Love her. Love her. Any sort of other thoughts and feelings from watching Broadchurch? No, but the cast is absolutely insane. Coleman, Tennant, that guy who's in Harry Potter and Game of Thrones.

2:07Jonathan Bailey's in it who else is in it? Bill Bailey no surprisingly not just so many different people in it oh my god you then blew up to be like the biggest thing ever also in the Patreon episode we discussed obsession in great detail and we talked about my first ever acting job so if you would like to support the podcast and help our pockets grow fatter. Because they're very fucking slim. People don't know how to play their invoices on time. Then subscribe to our Patreon. And this week, you can expect to hear about Sue's Matt Smith story. It's not even that juicy. It's just him being, he's trying to be like straight.

2:58And he's a potter from South London. I can't remember who told it me. Is it? Yeah, anyway. How are you? I'm good. Yeah. How are you? You didn't seem sure of yourself. No, I am. Okay. I am. No, I am. Back to not drinking. Got a bit wrecked over the weekend. Not very proud of myself for that one. It just happened so quick. I've already told you that the audience will be listening right now. I've been sober for about three weeks. And then on Saturday, I had a few drinks. But it's just so funny. Within the hour, I'm like absolutely hammered. I have like three drinks. I like inhale them because I love drinking.

3:30But I'm like, I love drinking too much. and like i'm unable to you know do it in a way that's chill at the minute like at the moment i just like i neck him back it's crazy yeah so maybe the sort of you know three weeks off one night massively on is uh no i don't think i think it's just like stop for a bit i just i think it is time to stop for a bit i'm never not ever gonna say i'm never gonna drink again but like unless i'm at a meal with like a glass of wine and the only reason i don't morph that back is because it's not amazingly tasty if you put a cocktail in front of me it's gone yeah it's gone I just don't know I can sense that you're you know you want to have a drink so you have a drink and then you demonise yourself for having a drink because I don't just have a drink Louis I have three drinks oh I had three drinks in an hour I had to leave at nine those are rookie numbers I've just realised that there's no point in trying to be a good person There's no point in being alive You should just do what naturally comes to you Yeah, which is stopping drinking I'm not trying to be a good person, I'm trying to be good for me I'm trying to wake up on Monday morning and not feel like I'm dying And was that the case this Monday?

4:42No, actually I was fine You escaped? I escaped Okay How are you?

4:53Good, really good actually You're going to tell the listeners No Okay, doesn't matter I feel like I speak about it enough on the podcast And I want one vestige of my private life But something good happened in my private life So Shout out to a very special person Oh well then you might as well just say it Shout out to Cress in Clisold Park Okay fine Also sorry but Cress as a name Is funny Who's Cress? Cress is someone that came up to me in Clisold Park And said She was down from She lives in the Peak District Sure it's she Yeah Positive Cress is a they them name If she's not a she You're not doing it right hun

5:39No it was a definite she It was a definite straight cis woman Okay Okay I'm with you I bet the house on it Okay You know when you just know Yeah yeah yeah No her name's Cressida Oh okay fine Take it back I thought it was like Cress like the grass Like egg and cress no Chris came up to me in Clisole Park and was like sorry to disturb you I just had to say fuck a ride in the pussy and then ran off

6:09she was such a huge fan of the pod and it gets her through her job that she hates oh Chris that's so nice so thank you Chris I've seen our numbers are going up on YouTube she also claimed she was on the Patreon and I saw her join this morning there's absolutely no issue with that Chris just happy to see you're part of the family now. I actually thought your name was Keris initially because the only person I could find that was close to a name sounding crest was Keris.

6:38But I'm good, Sue. I had a fun weekend. Good. Did you send it at the football? Yeah, I had people over in the garden. Actually, you know who came over? Iris. Oh yes I bumped into her on Greenlands She came over Iris of George Riley fame Who was she with? A friend called Soap Oh yeah Soap runs fast I don't know who that is but I just see them everywhere She was very funny Is she a model? Or is she a musician? I think she was Actor Shout out to Iris and Soap I had a great weekend. Watched the England game. Prepared for this gig I have on Thursday, supporting some weird... Transvestite. Like, yeah, weird trans.

7:33Crossy. Some weird crossy. Which is sold out. It's sold out, so you can't fucking come. You can't come. Louis is a support. You're not welcome. Yeah, I'm the support. I'm doing stand-up for 20 minutes. Yes. About Russell Brand. oh um yeah it's gonna be good i'm really excited multi-screener supporting so i think yeah and so i think he's coming out with a project on friday it's gonna be sick who's who i think me bitch you make music i do yeah i know that's literally my life i love your podcast thank you thank you i love you i saw you doing funny videos but then when you dressed as the cat didn't you say like Pussy fat or something Or like fisting or something Yeah I did I fucking did

8:24And now I sing I always sang I sang way before any of it Yeah make music Gig sold out Loving all the people DMing me Like so annoyed I don't have tickets They were on sale for like Two days before they sold out Like what Just harvest those screenshots And then just you know Send them to I don't know Well there's a bigger gig coming oh can you reveal anything about that no and now we're making rug um you want to talk about your ep at all uh yeah we're going to do an episode on it soon not today no what it's called i'm not rich enough to have shame it's about getting my foot in the door but to have done that i had to do all those stupid videos online and they're not stupid loads of a and r's yeah i had to really beg it online i had to like kill the cringe post every day on tiktok kind of like sell my soul get addicted to dopamine validation and then um now i'm finally in the position where i can make music and everyone's like right go on and run and i can't run because i'm knackered from everything joking i'm not knackered i'm so ready to run and get cracking but essentially it's about that that sounds fantastic thank you so much that sounds like an ep i'd really like to listen to thank you i hope it's an ep a lot of people want to listen um i i look forward to our full episode on it when are we doing that i don't know okay sometime in the next couple weeks um and speaking of killing the cringe sue yeah um how do you feel about uh the social media side of promoting your music i love it because i think it's just funny and i do you know what for the first time i actually feel really excited about i was saying this to bill in the week for the first time i feel really excited where i've like killed all my darlings and i only post music now and i'm back at that stage which i once was like a few years ago with tiktok where i'd post a tiktok get like 50 likes and then one might get 200 likes and one might get 500 likes and then one might get like 60 likes again like i'm finally at that place because like there was a time there was a time when men were kind no but um there was a time where you know especially last year when i was on social media i was looking at a cafe like the video didn't get like a few thousand likes i'd delete it because it was a flop like i was getting a hundred thousands of likes last year and now it's like okay back to 60 but i think there's something refreshing about that because it's like okay no within the year i'm gonna keep spamming this fucking music and i'll have like shit loads of likes on this too like i feel inspired again to like give it another crack and be like do you know what this is what i was always meant to do i've gone around the houses a bit and i have a podcast which I love very dearly and I've said a bunch of shit online but it's all going to happen for me because why fucking not?

11:12You've said a bunch of shit online you're making it sound like you've been cancelled a few times No, I just pretended to be a cat one time that went pretty viral then we did loads of field videos and then I did your dad jokes with my ex-boyfriend did loads of things online that have happened You've really had such an amazing career I really have in a short amount of time Charlie XCX expects anti-marketing to gain traction as a strategy let's talk about it yeah in light of uh you know one route being you know what is conventional wisdom for the past however many years yeah artists spamming or promoting their music through social media or trying to get a viral moment yeah i think what she's saying is what i got from that interview and from the anti-marketing is nothing's correct anymore and i don't think anyone knows and i think she i don't know whether she was but it came across like she was touching on like brat being like such a marketing move like the brat wall and whatever and now being like it's almost like because of brides completely swung the opposite way where there's not actually a right way and she's just saying she's like i think the thing that works is just like in real life people turning up and so she used phoebe bridge as an example doing madison square garden no phones she's like that's anti-marketing because you can't film it no one's going to post it it's not going to trend but in a way that's like the most elusive best thing you could do in that situation generates people talking about it but i think this like huge conversation about marketing that charlie i think did start because no one knew what they're doing charlie added a clear concise thing but then also like blew it up also and everyone's been trying to recreate what charlie did and can't because she was just making it up and doing it and it was working i think it just goes to show that actually this whole thing like anti-marketing marketing in general none of it is true unless it works for you like you cannot recreate what another artist does it's the same white girl nail gun for example they did that they did that gig at um where did they do that gig in that like train station or whatever like that looked amazing but like if you were there you were there and that's fucking sick but they'll never be able to do that again and no one will ever like be able to recreate that that's not going to become like a venue unless it is a venue like people are gonna do you know what i'm saying yeah it's it's but it has been used for gigs before but it's very rare that's what i mean i'm just like it looked really cool it's really sick it looked really elusive and fun it looked very like public so if like if you knew you knew and it's great when are they going to do the next one don't know i think that was brilliant marketing because i've never heard of them and then that week i feel like everyone and their mom was talking about them i feel like there's nothing right you can do you know just as much as like lola young back in the day did tiktok singing on like the underground do you know i mean like one thing that works oh my god yeah a video of her like her first video that blew up was her eye just going like this on camera to a song there's nothing like nothing nothing nothing anybody can do you just have to do you it might even be you like singing and someone behind you just doing something else it might be you you know slam your head against the wall 100 times like there's just no nothing is right anymore this whole anti-marketing campaign is just saying actually no one's got a clue at all and you just hope that people fuck with you that much because of the basis i do think at the basis you need a good product the reason why brad popped off some which is like they were amazingly written and produced songs yeah there's like no other way around it and it's the same with like lily allen like lily allen's album did well because she released an album and it did well because it was juicy as fuck it was fine fine to nice music and then like everyone wants to know the gossip that's why it spread and now it's like massive she's doing like arenas again like which she deserves which is fab but like it is just like you have to just don't think about how you can promote music do the thing that you know in your heart is the thing that you should be doing or try things out and then when you see that one thing works be like okay cool it's that erin lecount erin lecount i remember her videos popped off she'd be in a room doing this shit and a floaty dress and it was like yeah that's erin lecount that's like her shit you know like it's yeah you still need branding though and that's what all of those are but i think that's what it is like that's in doing those things repeatedly the brand's there you know so it is interesting yeah um intrigued to see how anti-marketing works with that um columbia who's columbia her label atlantic atlantic budget she's got well it's very interesting and again this is literally not comfortology my favorite ever but like it is interesting even phoebe doing like the anti-marketing of saying no phones it's like yeah but she's still sold out madison square garden do you know what i mean like yeah i think is this also you know and there are also people fall into it like the lizzo debate of it all at the minute like i fought with lizzo since her first album like when she was rapping and this like new album like she's promoting doing one of the tiktok thing going viral for music that just isn't good that's just the basis of it there's no other way around it she's getting good numbers she's complained that she wasn't getting good numbers has gone and got good numbers she's got good numbers and everyone's being like this is shit because the music's bad it just is unfortunately yeah i don't know like do you do you think you could apply this this sort of logic to a musician who is unsigned and just starting out do you think there's a hypocrisy obviously i i agree with the general sentiment i think we've spoken about it a lot is that like the best way to market at the moment is to just consistently release good music and and demonstrate true artistry rather than like social media gimmicks or anything um and just yeah be consistent but like this notion of anti-marketing or like no phones at shows do you think it only works if you're sort of that at that level i think it is i think it's it's hard to say to like artists that are coming up that i think you can have your own identity and then you'll occasionally get a pink pantherist go through or like for example like ear for example i feel like they're just playing fucking shows putting out music all the time inundating people with thing and that's their that's their thing i think it is just like finding your groove but ultimately for people that are like playing the george and shackle on repeat for different nights keep doing that and then you do eventually just have to post online maybe you'll find your own style or something but yeah ultimately with that stuff i feel like it's really hard to tell artists who were like just starting i feel like the marketing debate is only for when people have budgets and stuff i think the only thing people can do to get scouted is be online and just be visible i just think there's nothing wrong almost what i was saying earlier about tiktok and why i'm inspired again there's just nothing wrong with being visible because if you see an artist that i'm obsessed with this girl i don't know what her name is i don't know if she's on tiktok she's got a song that's like starting to trend a little bit and she's not released it yet but it's like oh lover don't gotta tell me baby i already know that you took it too deep and i like outside too deep she's clearly signed she's clearly on some like big label but if you scroll back like a few months on a thing it was like she started her account and just started spamming and like event the song's great and like it started to pick up and everyone's like release this fucking song and like and now she has like 6 000 followers but she's about to fucking blow up because it's like that's what she knew she had a good product she just spammed the fuck out of it eventually if you spam and treat the algorithm well it does push a video or two and if your thing is good enough it will blow up it just will like it's just a way like or it will gain kind of what i'm seeing now was like it's gaining a bunch of people who comment on every one of my videos like i love this song it's like thank you genuinely thank you it means a lot like they're the people you're trying to impress they're the people that come to the gigs they're the people dm me but like how do I guess this for the gig on Thursday.

19:04You're the people that matter. Oh, you're the people that matter the most to me. You're the people that are coming out. It's funny. I might be getting 60 likes on a TikTok video, but then I'm selling out a show. Do you know what I mean? None of it makes sense. But that's the anti-marketing of it all. And the thing, back to the ear example, they don't post much on social media. But, like you can't most 99 % of musicians can't compare themselves to ear because ear are like uniquely incredibly hyped and like I mean they do have a really eye-catching live show which is why so many people film them and then that's the like the promotion but like yeah you sort of it's hard to rely on this like sense of mystery i guess but then you do see more musicians big and small like they're still their teams aren't stupid like they're still they're still going to be focusing on marketing very much but i think the common thread is that like it's not from the artists themselves yeah everyone is doing everything they can right now to like it's almost like traditional press but like it's all digital it's like and in his case it's like it it seemed sort of real and it's just like people like people really do just love them and like 19 year old old kids are just going to their show.

20:44There'll be a huge PR team on that. There'll be a huge person doing PR and sending out the emails. Like all of these people, even like the most indie people, like I know their press. I know their PRs. I know how connected those PRs are. Like it's all a game. I actually saw a comment. They commented on the thing where we're talking about like the geese of it all and not to go over that and like the marketing campaigns online. And she's like, but actually I think there was she, she was saying, she was like, actually as a consumer of music, it was surprising to me to find out that mostly everything is an ad or like has been paid for as or has a team behind it but unfortunately that's where we are we're in late state capitalism where everything literally is an ad so one can go viral for one video and i guarantee they'll do that video again with an ad behind them they just will it's a way that it runs reviews as well like there's not that there's not that many big reviews on tiktok but anytime i look up a musician i like there's always like a couple of reviews and i just i don't know i can sort of just smell yeah Even if they're not Like There has to be So much of a point The minute you get Attraction online Take that outside Go do a meet up Go do like Old school YouTube days Go build a festival Go do fucking Something stupid Like go out Do a gig Yeah Somewhere in the city Yeah it will be Somewhere in the city But like do you know what I mean Do something Like move Like make your community real And make your community come I think we need to We need to like do a night Or something Like At least put on and people ask the live podcast people want to come to that i don't know yeah we need to do something but like i don't uh someone that's like seen this happen they're like the press side of everything i don't blame labels or managers or artists for wanting to do like a burner because absolutely not because it's like which we'll move on to our next point i want to because it's like we are we are now at a point where it is just like we have seen so many people try and fail to promote their own music themselves doesn't mean it doesn't work anymore because it does still but it's like it feels like the gold rush of that yeah is over there's a new trend as well this moving on i agree the god was sober but there's this like new trend that i've seen people hopping on where like again coming from like charlie's like b-sides and like doing like a little burner everyone's got a burner we've all got burners i have a burner it's called sue i think with what's it called sue i reckon that's what it's called that's funny okay but that's my burner and like but i also i'm an internet person and i'm really not famous but like people who are really famous for example i'm going to use her harry neff's made a burner being like i'm naming drag race queens i like would do a bump with and i'm just like babe you're that girl on instagram that posts photos of like films that you watch because you're artsy you can't turn around now and be the from the artsy girl to like the cool coke girl like it's not saying that you can't do that harry i think you're great and you're objectively you're in barbie if you're if not the most one of the most famous trans actors like in hollywood in the world do you know i mean but like i think this kind of like move to burners and to watch people because i see it happen with a lot of artists at the minute and a lot of like actors as well where they kind of like make a kooky account it gives me the ick because i'm like you've been told to do that there's someone in your PR team that has told you to do that she must have a film coming out or something where it's kind of like oh my god look at me is it clearly is it advertised as her account is it obvious that it's her no but it's like silly names I'll show you how have you worked out that it's her because she's talking on the videos it's not like well but I feel like this is no and like Zara does it if you've seen the Zara one, we'd like, see if people find this one and then be like, oh my God, Zara, I saw like a different account.

24:32Blame. Because Burner, then Burner has like taken on a new meaning where it's just any like second account. Whereas it used to like be like, okay. It used to be like a Burner was like, oh, like we found Kevin Durant's Burner. Like it's, it's a celebrity like posing as like a completely anonymous person. And now it's like, even if you're just, this is like a finster basically. exactly and i just think it's like also it kind of like you know good for her obviously but like i i don't know i feel like it's just what you think she's too big for it or something i think yeah i think they're too big and then also like you've created this like thing of anonymity in your career and i think like now like we're kind of like swinging in a way where everyone wants to know everything which is fine but then i feel like people are trying to do it And I'm like I'm not even saying It's inauthentic Because like You know she's a key Like Do you know what I mean I just think it's just Kind of like I'll see it And I'm like Oh like Okay like God You're really there So why I'm guessing I guarantee She's got a film Coming up as well I was going to ask you About Charlie XX's Second account Yeah But when she did Brat She did like A locked private And then She'd put an Unlocked symbol On the store And you could go And get on the account And I was on the first time Obviously but like but like and then those were the people and then it'd lock again and then those were the people that got the first bit of information and so you'd have to wait for someone on that account like either share it or like thing so she did that and then now it's public called b-sides and then that's where she's posting the soundcloud links to the b-sides of the song she's releasing which are never going to be on streaming for example she's got a song called playboy bunny that's now only on soundcloud because can we stop doing that can we that's the point stop not can we stop like half releasing songs what we're doing like can petrus with pre-sound yeah do you know what i mean just release the fuck i know but this is the game like it's like it's kind of like now people are looking at like anonymity and people are looking at like exclusivity like charlie's had a private show in new york and now she's got a private show tonight at scholar and she was like i didn't even have the tickets and it sold out how did y 'all have the ticket link why aren't i going y 'all y 'all how the fuck did y 'all have the tickling where were you getting that from like This is what I mean Is it's like That's the exclusivity Was it like an email link We need to pit The strongest fans Against the weakest fans The real angels Yeah

27:02And you said Phoebe Bridges Has a Burner now As well Did you mention that No Oh I thought that's What you wanted to talk about No Harry Neff Oh sorry Harry Neff That was it Well it's not Even that I'm like annoyed By Harry Neff Like obviously I just think But what's the difference To you Between Charlie XCX And Harry Neff

27:21why is what charlie did it originally so right the b-side and i've got it's called like 360 brat right so i'm like well that like did the whole brat campaign and started it why i feel like it's late from other artists is you know artists and influencers think influencers do it where it's kind of like their second account and like they don't have a profile picture i just think it's i don't know it just makes me feel like you've got a whole account you are your whole person like you're not going to not get jobs because you're not being relatable and when they go in for the jugular and they start talking like about things where i'm like i know your media trade media trade to not talk about that i don't know i just think i don't know i just think it's like you're you don't have to do that but i think people are floundering for any type of relevant relevancy so they're trying to do the thing that i feel like also we and our friends have have had to do where you kind of sell everything online to get to the place they're at and they're at this place and now they're like, ooh, maybe I could be a bit more relevant by talking about cocaine one time.

28:16And then we get told in meetings that we should stop talking about cocaine. Make it make sense. Let us. Make it make sense. Like, I don't like, I don't know. I find it all confusing. Well, I think from a, I think people find it funny. I think. Yeah. And I think brands don't. It's the, ooh, smells like perfume. Does it? Yeah, just out of nowhere. Maybe it's Sophie's Gucci.

28:46have you listened to the Claylor album I haven't Oscar Sheller so Oscar Shelled it up I love him Oscar's putting posh bisexual men on the map and only working with alt baddies alt baddies yeah Oscar dropped the George Riley collab oscar drop the george riley collab it's really good it's i did listen to it again this morning and it wasn't quite as good as the first time i listened to her what is up with that what is up with that i think i'm not coming for claire i love calella i think she's amazing that's me with claire albums i'll listen once i'm like wow that was great and i'll never ever listen again well i haven't i love her first cut for me no there's no there's thingy then cut for me then i think blue and red one blue and red one with rewind with that's cut for me but i don't know whether that's the first i can i think it's the first basically for me love that one and i like the one that she did with arca that was amazing but then there was one a couple of years ago that was basically that wasn't raven wasn't my that wasn't for me her in the black and white pool yeah raven um that was so no cut for me was the first one then hallucinogen hallucinogen is my one but yeah in recent years i haven't been as hot on khalayla and i back i think she's back this there's still some moments which i guess is just down to personal taste like in a sort of that like trip pop like erica de cassier like sometimes i'm just like this is a little bit too atmospheric for me but the thing about Kaleiola is her top lines and her vocal melodies and her voice is so good that it's like it gives me hooks to keep going on to and then I just thought the the production was good the the one with the AK pool sick going down sick crystallizer sick link and be sick the pink panther is one I actually didn't love that much and if we meet again is brilliant as well it's like there's i think yeah going down is like super grungy and um it just made me think that like there's so many sort of big names sort of so many big names in like electronic music uh who are just simping for guitars right now yeah I agree it's become very uh trendy and Kaleela not doubting that you've always wanted to make this album and you've been a huge incubus fan your whole life because I'm sure you have but it feels and I'm not just saying it because of Charlie either but like I don't know all these people who like have come up through electronic music may be deciding that purely sort of i thought that was mark william nurse that texted you um everyone's picking up a guitar because they think it's cool yeah they're whacking the chorus pedal on it to be fair and i'm here for it yeah really you're doing it as well if you're not heard oh i can't even tell you it's foul it's foul um but it's because all these electronic baddies we want something real sue yeah we do and when you go live and see someone playing a guitar it's just yeah it just hits you real so shakala shakala shakala shakala george riley shout george riley shout chanel b shout ml burkey shout out multi-screen shout out so i think um shout out all the guy girl electronic duos yeah um i hope you die

32:44I'm gonna do a guy girl collab and call it Uggers but spell it wrong Uggers Uggers U-G-G-E-R-Z like fuckers but not I'm gonna start a guy girl electronic duo called

33:04Shitted and Pissed in My Pants Nice I'm gonna start a guy girl electronic duo and call it Nose

33:14i'm gonna start a guygirl electronic duo and call it herpes excel oh i'm gonna start a guygirl electronic duo and call it glass palaces

33:28i'm gonna start a guygirl electronic duo and call it vhs filter oh i'm gonna start a casio oh i'm gonna start a guy and got electronic duo and call it

33:42I'm trying to think what are those people called that are now using AI? Tuchel. No, no, no, no, not even. Oh God, not that. No, they use an AI. What are they called? They're like an electronic duo. It's super interesting like the capabilities of AI. No, what are they called? I don't know. They're like a guy and go electronic duo.

34:05If only we'd known that if it was that simple to be successful that we just had to make music together. We would have made music for fuck's sake. We have songs together. That's how we start being friends. He's a guy. He's super mysterious. He's kind of introverted. She's a girl. She's hot as fuck. She's also used to be a guy. The twist is she used to be a guy. She sings, obviously. Yeah. We need a guy-girl electronic duo where the girl produces and the guy sings. Yeah, what happened to that? Yeah. We need the space lady. Yazoo. Bring Yasu back Only you Get Tracy Beaker And Bass Hunter in the studio together Yeah what's your What guy girl electronic judge You want to see next I want like David Getter and Kate King I want Rachel Stevens But not singing Doing a sort of ambient trip hop thing and Jordan Pickford, England Goalie.

35:10Sound. That would be amazing. I want... Old movies like The Godfather 3. Okay, Louis Spence on vocals because we know he's got that. And so he doesn't even have to sing. It'll be back in track. Yeah, Louis Spence on vocals. Back in track and he's basically just dancing. Yeah. And then to produce it, I want Suella Braverman and Delia Derbyshire. Yeah. Who wrote the Doctor Who theme tune, which you should know because you're a fan of that terrible, terrible show. I love that show. Is that a franchise? Do we call it a franchise? It's like a McDonald's. Would you have a franchise in Subway? Yeah, to earn money.

35:53No, I wouldn't. Do you reckon it's a good earner? Who could be arsed? Who could be arsed? Not me. What haircut should I get today? You should get a mud cut because you look fit with that, hon. But shouldn't get something interesting. I'm getting a haircut on Thursday, girls. Next time see me. Shouldn't get a Matty Healy 2013 mohawk. All right, do it. Yeah, that would be sick. I love a mohawk. You should. Now everybody's dead. They're drawing around my old school. And he's got his kind. He's got his suits on. He said bye. But do you go fun haircut? Do you go? Yeah, do a mohawk. I love a mohawk.

36:33I asked Bill too and I hope he said no. Don't you think I just look shit? Now you look sick. Okay. Maybe I'll have the courage. I'll say it to my hairstylist and she'll probably just say no. Also, I'm going to Cork soon, guys. So... Cork! Shout out to Luke. Going to Cork! Shout out to Luke EXCX in the chat. Give me some tips already. I basically... I'm staying in Cork City. I want to... We don't have a car. We're going to go to Cobb. hope I'm pronouncing that right probably not gonna get a spice bag somewhere so tell me where to get a spice bag spice bag yeah that's what they call just like Coke and Mandy Coke and Mandy so please give me any recs

37:25agony aunts yeah she said

37:32Did you hear that? Sophie just me out.

37:38Oh, I just smacked on the head. I'm so sorry. Did not mean to do that. I love that girl. I love that girl.

37:50When is this going up tomorrow?

37:56Probably, maybe today on YouTube. Okay. because there's things we need to cut yes i can't remember what so i want i want to true yeah uh maybe tomorrow then okay um i'm suddenly not into fisting anymore but fisting is my entire personality now so who am i

38:17jude bellingham bash baby bye i've recently come out being on a couple dates with girls but struggle to initiate physical side of things help men are so easy but girls it's so daunting to be fair that was me when i was a lesbian for that one summer because i swore off men um i never made the first move and that's why i couldn't be a lesbian so i don't know what to tell you you just make a joke about it and say oh oh i've never fucking done cocaine before or you could be like i've never met a diamond in the floor and I'm lonely just make a joke that you let's go down to the tennis court and bring it out like yeah yeah yeah woo woo woo woo remember the flume remake did you ever listen to flume did you have a flume face flume yeah were you too gay for flume yeah absolutely um yeah just make a joke that you're a pussy and that you've never eaten pussy before so be gentle help why won't the men fuck me in my booty hole don't ask me I hate have you washed it have you washed it have you washed it have you washed it inside and out um yeah sorry I'm the wrong person to ask on this one um I don't really know I love it that's it um when England win the World Cup Shirley Starram is there for the team it's his team concern okay i hope not well have you heard he's gonna uh there's rumors circling that if uh england win we will get uh a national a national holiday um which i don't think affects us as podcasters but kia you're begging it bro just admit you're begging it like hope everyone remembers like me for this one thing um your legacy and that advice for telling my grandparents who i live with when i'm not a uni i'm getting top surgery they're not transferred but they just worry too much just don't tell them i'm lopping my tits off i'm lopping my fucking tits off nan i'm getting i'm getting chest reduction done nan nan nan they're gone nan they're gone unless you're really close and it's a really close to we do we need to tell man and grown grandpa I won't tell them and then just go swim with him and be like but maybe you're really close well let's be real I meet maybe I don't know your grandparents maybe they're super sweet and you go and you get them a nice card from moon pig moon pig.com and uh i lock my tits off nan yeah but it's it's actually what it is it's a picture of nessa and then the speech book from gavin is a scene speech probably is oh i lock my tits off and that's it yeah oh what's occurring i lock my tits off it's your body it's your body do what you want you don't owe anyone an explanation especially not someone as old as your grandparents and i told my mom and my whole family group chat that i was going on hormones with the kim kardashian meme that's like i'm think i'm dropping hints do you know that kim kardashian meme mine was i'm dropping hints i'm starting hormones and then it's her just going i'm starting hormones and i was like and everyone's like really and i was yep and that was that but parents are different to grandparents i think oh yeah my grandparents i'm like joking i love my granddad you've got to think about the outcome of each route if you tell them worst cases they're like you know really horrible to you or don't acknowledge it best case scenario is they're like oh fine if you don't tell them worst case scenario is there's not just you gotta do what you gotta do what do you want to do don't be scared of anybody else you deserve happiness what a wonderful night to end on all right i love you bye you