In short
The hosts discuss Louis Theroux’s “Manosphere” coverage and how social media algorithms amplify extreme ideologies; they also swap personal updates (saunas, skincare, travel), then move into film/TV and music recommendations.
Guests
No named guests. The episode is primarily a conversation among the hosts (including Louis Theroux as a referenced subject, not a guest). A cat named Sophie appears during the recording.
Guest backgrounds
Not applicable (no guest interviews). References include Myron Gaines, HSTikiToki, and “a self-proclaimed neuroscientist” (all discussed as online figures).
Key claims
- The manosphere is “only scary if you abide by it”; most of its audience is young/isolated and should “log off.”
- Many creators monetize clout rather than belief; humiliation and “baity questions” are used for engagement.
- Social media feeds polar opposites and keeps users in the algorithm.
- Women aren’t responsible for men’s ideology; “stop speaking to these men.”
Notable examples
- A clip about “DNA staying in someone forever” used to justify claims about future children.
- Discussion of HSTikiToki’s “privately educated rich boy” background and alleged pimp-like monetization.
- Sauna experiences (Stratford, Walthamstow) and film talk (e.g., “Surat,” “Rotting in the Sun,” “Weapons”).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBurt's Bees and Lip Balm Preferences
0:30 to 8:00
Discussion about Burt's Bees products and personal lip balm preferences.
“Zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine, and immunity support.”
Reflections on the Manosphere
8:00 to 14:00
In-depth analysis and critique of the manosphere and its implications.
“I think it will be good for like someone like my mum or someone of my mum's generation to see what's going on.”
The Impact of Past Partnerships on Future Generations
14:00 to 15:00
Discussion on how past relationships can influence future children through DNA.
Navigating Online Spaces and Incels
15:00 to 16:00
Exploration of online culture, incels, and the dangers of engaging with toxic communities.
Ignoring Social Media Pressure
16:00 to 17:00
Talk about the importance of disengaging from negative social media influences.
“and like reading more and just trying to get out and just like putting my phone down and watching a film if I watch a film like put my phone in the other room because ultimately Meds are working then What?”
Perceptions of Political Change and Social Existence
17:00 to 18:00
Discussion on political changes and the resilience of marginalized communities.
Young Audience and Cultural Influence
18:00 to 19:00
Examining how young audiences can be misled by sensationalized content.
Socioeconomic Disparities in Influencer Culture
19:00 to 20:00
Discussion on the privilege behind influencer success and cultural capital.
Regulating Emotions in a Digital Age
20:00 to 21:00
Exploring how men struggle with emotional regulation in the context of social media.
“And we don't want to take advantage of our fans.”
The Risks of Investment in Influencer Culture
21:00 to 22:00
Discussing potential repercussions for individuals investing in influencer-led schemes.
“Like, are you going to really make it out?”
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Misconceptions About Gender Roles
22:00 to 23:00
Critique of traditional gender roles and the perception of women's desires in relationships.
“The thing, the other thing that pissed me off.”
Critique of Louis Theroux's Documentary Style
23:00 to 24:00
Discussion on Louis Theroux's approach to documentary filmmaking and its effectiveness.
Oscar Reactions and Predictions
24:00 to 25:00
Reactions to the recent Oscars and predictions about award outcomes.
“What did you think of Louis Theroux's performance?”
Evaluation of Oscar Acceptance Speeches
25:00 to 26:00
Discussion on notable acceptance speeches and their impact during the Oscars.
“Also, um, that another, another criticism was that he should have spoken to more people affected by it.”
Timothée Chalamet's Rising Stardom
26:00 to 27:00
Analysis of Timothée Chalamet's career trajectory and public perception.
“And my room was like, on the podcast, I'm texting.”
Timmy's Struggles in Hollywood
28:00 to 29:20
A discussion about Timothée Chalamet's career and public perception.
“I haven't seen it, but apparently he did it great.”
The Oscars Recap
29:56 to 33:18
Discussion about the recent Oscars and notable films.
“If I want to be the best, isn't even bad.”
Exploring New Horror Films
33:18 to 37:58
Conversations about horror films, including Weapons and Surat.
“Is it supernatural or is it like murderer?”
Chloe Sevigny and Film Critique
37:58 to 42:00
Discussion about Chloe Sevigny and recent film experiences.
Exploring James Blake's Soundscapes
42:00 to 43:19
Discussion on James Blake's album and his unique sound production style.
“I just enjoy his soundscapes and the way he produces.”
Comparing Recent Albums
43:20 to 45:01
Comparison of recent albums by artists like Lorde and Caroline Polachek, reflecting on their impact.
“I really haven't felt deeply moved by an album since, like...”
Jalal's Rise to Fame
46:31 to 48:28
Exploration of Jalal's journey and the community's evolving perception of her.
“And one thing about me, I'm real pretty.”
Travel Plans and Experiences
48:29 to 50:59
Hosts discuss upcoming travel plans and the experiences associated with planning holidays.
“I think I fear with anyone on TikTok without getting, like, when someone gets big on TikTok and then doesn't make a backbone for themselves, i.e.”
Advice on Attraction and Guilt
51:00 to 54:04
Addressing listener's concerns about attraction to others while in a relationship and dealing with guilt.
“First off, you shouldn't feel awkward speaking to your therapist.”
Navigating Breakups and Moving On
54:05 to 56:01
Discussion on the complexities of moving on after a breakup and coping mechanisms.
Understanding Life's Lessons
56:01 to 56:38
Learn how life's mistakes contribute to personal growth.
Finding Hope in Relationships
56:38 to 57:08
Explore the belief that everyone can find love, no matter their background.
“time but let's not there is something out there for you let's not get too crazy now okay there is someone for everyone, even my fucking weird ass family, man.”
How to Shoot Your Shot
57:08 to 59:26
Get practical advice on navigating romantic interests in university.
“I've really fancied a man, I know, since the beginning of uni.”
Concluding Thoughts and Farewells
59:26 to 1:00:18
Wrap up the episode with final thoughts and sign-offs.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. Good energy out.
0:34Storm. Zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine, and immunity support. Storm. Energy for life. What? Do I look like shit? Do I look like an old granny? What the fuck is that? That's a nice tea. That's pale. Is it? Do you want another tea? No, I'm just teasing. I mean, it is pale, but I don't want you to make me another cup of tea. And thank you for the cup of tea. So basically, for my anniversary last year, Bill bought me a bunch of Burt's Bees. So I've been using these Burt's Bees from this bag, right? So I have like 15 Burt's Bees. I finally ended it and I bought a new Burt's Bees. I feel like they've changed the formula.
1:13They've changed the formula? Well, you should know. As long as I've known you, you've been... They have. It smells more medical now. Really? Like almost like TCP. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it does, isn't it? To be honest, I didn't know what Burt's Bees smelled like before that. But, oh, hi, doing. Oh, hello, Brizaz. For audio listeners Sophie's now on my lap For audio listeners Sophie is now giving me top She came over as well She's like Oi Angie's fucking up her arse I chased her the other day And her tail got bushy Like do you know when they're scared Yeah And I just thought That's really funny Because like What am I going to do Like I've never seen Oh my god No I chased her on the house Wait Oh I'm sorry The tail literally gets The tail bushy Yeah and like The spine like goes really bushy Oi I chased her on the house every day.
1:59Because she's me on the house. I just chased her by the way. Yeah. Sorry, just back on Burt's Bees for a second. Because I'm really into that shit. Oh. Oh, you're hitting that guy. She throwing it back. Sophie's throwing it back for all the listeners. Does Burt's Bees... I feel like there's two types of lip balm, right? Yeah. There's lip balm that is just like Vaseline. For rock chicks. And there's lip balm for indie girls. There's lip balm. There's Vaseline. Which is like not lip balm. Yeah, no, no, no. Because that locks in. But you can reapply it all the time. Yeah, Vaseline doesn't actually moisturize your lips.
2:33And then there's like actual expensive lip balm. Yeah. Which you can't even use that much or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where does Burt's Bees sit on the spectrum? Burt's Bees sits in like, it's more expensive than Vaseline, but not as expensive as like, like my friends just get like YSL lip balm. Shit like that. Like girls, I don't know. It's like Fiverr. So it was really helpful actually when Bill bought me a whole packet of like 15. Do you know what I mean? What else does he buy you? what doesn't he buy me he's actually quite good really well what do you buy him what do I buy him what did I buy him for his birthday I got him a shirt specially made look at her mouth when I do it she's not happy though for audio listeners Louis fighting me I'm stabbing Sophie sorry she will get you what do you buy him I bought him for his birthday I bought him I made him a shirt made by our friend Ellie so it was like a shirt made from nothing oh yeah I kiss football thing I made it from and then well I commissioned it and then what else do I buy him I buy him flowers I buy him books I buy him cards and stuff I buy each other loads of things I buy him dinner he buys me dinner yeah I thought recently that's kind of one of the sad things about being single is that you don't really go out for nice meals yeah you don't have so much to pay things for and vice versa well it's not the money thing especially with straight people you have to pay every time well unless you get a liberal lady
3:58I'd actually say most ladies are pretty I've never not paid Not that I give them a chance to Not make a choice No No No I'd say most of the ladies I love when like you come back from the toilet and they're paid Yeah When a bird makes that decision for you Because if she asked me I would have said no But I come back from the toilet I respect that That's a GraftKings clip right there In case anyone was wondering You're playing about now. You fucking little child. Weren't we the stars in heaven? Not even a money thing. Not even a money thing. It's just about treating oneself. Yeah. Like going to a spa is something I wouldn't do.
4:44Alone. Of my own volition. Yeah. But as soon as I get a girlfriend, that would all change immediately. although in saying that Sue went to a sauna for the first time on Thursday gotta say I can kinda fucks with it we should go I'd love to go to the I like to go to the Stratford one Stratford's my girl is it like in between all the big towers is it the same I have a feeling that everyone goes to the same brand I think it is that community yeah yeah I love it though we should go I was ready to hate on it so much it's nice it is nice I just hate cold plunge sometimes I think cold plunge is different when you jump into like the sea like the the sky so I really need to go yeah because it's like you're in the same you're swimming in the sky so no we like the one owner in sky yeah oh god you did it's amazing yeah you took Lauren Lyle there but you didn't know Lauren Lyle took you yeah oh yeah we got this dreadful it's a dreadful life it's a sad lame it felt like what I think Xanax would feel like yeah after the worst thing is though you finish like in Stratford you finish and you're so sad and then you're in Stratford yeah and then I've got a line bike home from Stratford on like basically a junction a dual carriageway I went to the Walthamstow love Walthamstow but and that area is cool because it's like lots of new businesses starting and there's the sauna there but it's not it's not the nicest area in the world.
6:17Yeah, apparently there's... What's the private ones that everyone goes to where you can hire it out for your friends? I just like doing that. Ooh, I don't know. There's one at the top of fucking Nettle House, I think, that's quite a bit fancy. Yes, that's the one where you can hire it out. No, I'd like to go there, though. Should we hire it out? Straight diva meet up there! Yeah, I know. I was like, what if we hire it out and then we can just, like, invite a couple of people, listeners, and we can all just sit there and sweat. Careful who you invite. Why? It's funny. I'm not going to be took though guys just know that for free obviously you didn't go to a sauna in Berlin no and that's all anyone's been saying to me since I've exposed you didn't go to a sauna oh my god that's why you hated it then how are you feeling one week out from your perfect I'm not there anymore so it's perfect yeah nice I'm going to Budapest in a few weeks yeah well you can do a lot of fucking I don't know if they do sauna but they do baths someone asked me the other day
7:16saying you always look like you're on holiday. Yeah. But I'm not. I am away. I go away, but they're not holidays. We're all working. Sounds like you're salty. We made it. Have you made it? Yeah, 100%. I got 10K followers on Instagram. I made it. Well, it's funny because actually with that, my sister sent me cakes and a card saying happy 10K.
7:40Thanks, Millie. Thanks, Mill. okay where do you want to start darling oh i want to start a man's fear yeah thoughts thoughts thoughts thoughts so many thoughts i think so if you should get like because we're not going to be able to clip that if she's just out there yeah so if we get out the fucking way um i liked it i thought it was uh pretty good i thought i enjoyed seeing louis through doing like a an internet thing yeah yeah he obviously is still about i liked the palace the west bank thing he did or the settlers one that he did but for me personally i feel like this is my culture and it was yeah um and it was cool seeing him do that I think that his natural approach of like, you know, everyone talks about it, letting people talk themselves into stupidity or embarrassment worked very well with that group of men.
8:49I think it will be good for like someone like my mum or someone of my mum's generation to see what's going on. it's an issue like because i think that it's like i feel like this is bringing attention to it for something that like realistically if you don't want to see it just log off i feel like the manosphere in general like everyone's like it's scary and i'm like it's only scary if you like if you abide by it like if you just fucking ignore it like and then ignore men that are clearly in it what's gonna happen i just felt sorry not that i didn't feel sorry because i think they're fucking stupid but like the you know the two lads that are clearly just that was peak he was like i was homeless i need to work harder like sometimes like and then he starts talking about his brother who killed himself and then he's like but i'm gonna like make everyone proud i'm like baby like you are being sold a lie i feel like it's a very there's so many takeaways i think my takeaway from it is like how delicate the house of cards they make is do you know what i mean like it's so like you know like when the girl the girlfriend of the Myron came in the room Oh my god He is the pick of the fucking bunch He's just disgusting He's awful And he's also ugly I just think he's the most clapped man Like this weird skinny Scrawny freak Myron Gaines Yeah he just speaks absolute shit and is so overtly nasty And the thing is all of it One thing I really loved about it is the repeated Invited back by H.S.
10:19Tiki Toki Because he realised that it just gives him clout like yeah the whole thing is for clout they don't believe the shit that they're saying like obviously yeah they do believe it and whatever like deep down i think they do but like the minute their mom's about or their girlfriend's about their silent sarah and then that one it's like i have multiple other relationships i bet none of these men are fucking other people unless it's like the and even then i don't believe that they do that the only thing my only takeaway from it and i know how to say this but like not harshly the the bit that really got me is when hs ticky-tocky's mom's like letting him go off she's like and then they show the clip before where she's like i've not raised you like that i'm like you have and you raised your child to do that like you have to like start clocking these men like especially when you're in the position of power because he's i'd never say that in front of my mom well his mom needs to start fucking telling him off then do you know what i mean like i don't this whole thing the worst the issue with the manosphere is the Manosphere could be its own entity that exists in itself where they're all just wanking into socks.
11:19But the issue is, is it's like, and I'm going to say it, girls, the girls that like bite into it, why are you hanging around these fucking losers? Whoa, it's women's fault. No, no. You heard it here first. No, but the thing about it is certainly not women's fault. But the issue is, the issue is if they do believe that by doing these rules, they'll eventually get a woman because she'll finally accept being treated like a twat for money, then she's kind of letting squatty down no shade like i think i understand you know money equals safety and whatever but like the american guy's like wife that eventually he showed in his shit little mansion and like oh the ginger yeah the ginger guy tate one yeah yeah he justin he's just also justin waller yeah he's gross awful yeah all the photos i was showing of him i was like face tuned down girl that car that car means nothing by the way yeah like okay but he i think one thing i love about is he just doesn't they don't let people speak and then the minute they speak they're like oh you seem pressed no one's pressed louis was like i'm just speaking one thing they did gag louis with though with the palatine thing yeah they gagged him out nah they kind of ate with that one like loki when they were like are they doing genocide louis was like oh yeah and he was like, pop it.
12:38I was like, girl, like Loki. Oh, HS actually fucked him up. Yeah, but like, it's just like, this only exists if like, if anyone is in red pill, then I'm just not going to talk to you. If anyone even believes in these notions, like just girls stop speaking to these men. It doesn't matter how much money they've got. They're a weirdo. They deserve to be alone. And they are alone. I think Myron, like also, also like Loki, like with the girls that get invited on. Have you not seen a clip of that going off where they're calling like a girl a stupid slag or whatever why would you decide to go on do you want clout that bad like are we but then yeah maybe they do I don't know I wonder how in the clip with Myron Gaines when he's having all those girls on the podcast and just asking them like like baity questions the thing that was like your DNA stays in someone forever oh my god so if you haven't seen the thing there's this there's this clip where they this guy Myron basically has a bunch of OnlyFangirls on his podcast and he kind of just like humiliates them basically and then they play this clip from a self-proclaimed neuroscientist who is the weirdest of a human being, who's the most collapsed man and he's sat there like this explaining it fucking freak and he says that if you if you're a woman and you've had multiple partners your dna from previous partners can make its way to a future child a future child so if your previous partner looks like your ex like that's why and louis through is just like then come on yeah that's just not right the thing the gag is that my only thing is thing with it is like it only exists if you let it exist these people like being online we now live in a society where like being online doesn't mean you're online and positive invoke and reaction ensures you stay an algorithm the clout ensures that you stay an algorithm whether it's good or bad and you're still in people's faces and clout basically equates to money these days right my only thing is you can't like if you just don't want to interact with it just ignore it yeah like mostly all of these guys in the chat are like fucking incels that don't leave the house or they're like 14 years of age and like what's 14 you're all gonna do they're freaks are weirdos and everyone's like this can be dangerous and i'm like i actually don't think it'd be dangerous if you just don't talk to these fucking freaks yeah and then also as well i feel like sometimes it's falling inside women's like you know help and save these men i'm like girl i'm not saving shit like if they want to like believe like these pyramid schemes to get to the top and be rich and then like that guy's homeless but he's still paying 50 quid to be in this like yeah and they're just chasing community really and a father figure sometimes i just really don't feel sorry for it like it didn't make me feel sad it just makes me feel like girls we all just need to log off yeah and it's like that it's that thing i always get of like i guess i feel it with like reform or whatever i don't know whether it's uh it is a major problem or it's just that the nature of social media makes the the the crazy minority for sure a scene bigger than it is this is also the gag like because i think this all the time i've actually started coming off tiktok as much like I've been posting and ghosting at the moment and like reading more and just trying to get out and just like putting my phone down and watching a film if I watch a film like put my phone in the other room because ultimately Meds are working then What?
16:08Meds are working then Meds are working, yeah but ultimately like looking at like TikTok it's like I've said not interested to all the shit about the USA to the UK to politics, whatever it still comes up it's clearly trying to feed me shit like whether like I'm not being like conspiracist, whatever there's clearly topics that are being pushed by TikTok right whether we like to believe it or not whatever I believe that there is not like a cross to where I hope it doesn't sound like I've got like tinfoil on my head but I feel like I've clicked 5G but I've like you know what are they called not crop circles what are they called the towers
16:48chemtrails chemtrails but I think it is like that thing if you don't want to hear about it like because ultimately like right reform are going to get in if they get in whatever i log on there's every trans activist out there posting like we're going to lose this going to lose that we're going to think i'm not going to cease to exist i'm not going to cease to exist okay fine they're going to like change laws whatever we've existed we will continue to exist yeah it's hard but it's always been hard whether they revoke things whatever it's not like gay people are going to stop existing trans people are going to stop existing we're going to be here like whatever type of person there is like reform can come in all they fucking want with all these crusty dusty racist cunts we're not going anywhere they can try but they can't do it like we're too separated as a nation anyway for like us to even give a shit like i don't yeah but then again that's the thing i don't know i'm not sure about like with with manosphere stuff with reform stuff with yeah this this thing we're talking about where it's like social media amplifies the polar opposites um oh thank you sophie uh it i don't know if it makes it seem more divided than we are but then i did look at current voting intentions in the uk and reform did have like 34 or something and it was the highest so i don't want to speak on that too much but but with the manosphere at least i guess it's just like if you walk out into london and you speak to an average person i don't think i think the vast majority of people will be like oh yeah that's nonsense yeah um i guess it's problematic and where maybe i i think your argument is generally sound but like the the problem is and i don't know if we care about this but like it's the it's that that the note that louis through touches on is like his audience is very young people yeah but they'll figure out we all had bad shit on our algorithm one time yeah also like it is that thing it's like and if they don't figure out then they'll be very lonely for the rest of their life they can hate women and do whatever they want but girl no one's gonna suck your dick yeah i mean unless it's your faggy mate that you pretend to be straight with yeah for sure the thing i hate about it all is that i agree with you I don't know how much any of these guys really believe what they're exposing no exactly not I don't think any of the main ones do either the whole culture is like if it's if it gets views yeah that's the thing like HST Tiki Tiki is a privately educated rich boy from London telling you that you know like HST Tiki Tiki is like telling you that you can make it bitch already had a step up no matter how hard he struggled babe he went to private school he knows people who have money he know like no shame but like he knows people that like like he knows people that have money he's around people who have money you a fucking loner from the middle of nowhere in derbyshire are not gonna have the same like don't have the same like yourself now yeah yeah don't have yeah you man in derbyshire but like you you do not have the same like working class like you don't have the same privilege as this man does it's telling you that you all have the same 24 hours in a day trust me and like and then him also like doing this like trading shit which then he takes a cut from he's and also which by the way glorified pimp like crazy we could take a couple of lessons from how he he doesn't but he would never post any of that shit on tiktok so we need to start applying that to our patreon and whatsapp chat what is the what what is this what is the shit that we couldn't post online that would that uh our whatsapp community would be like yeah this is sick but We're not dickheads.
20:33You know what I mean? The issue is... And we don't want to take advantage of our fans. ...all they're going to the WhatsApp community are just like racist and weirdos and minging. No, to bring up, you know, I mentioned Pierre Bourdieu on the Hey on Why episode. The advantages of going to private school aren't just, you know, the economic ones. It's your social capital as well. Your cultural capital. Although I'm not sure Harrison, HS Tiki Toki has much cultural capital. but yeah i thought it was good the thing i didn't always thinking about was like would i show my mum this yeah and i actually like because it would be good for her to know but actually i don't want i don't want her to see it i think it would be better for her to not be a very quick in my opinion a very quick trend yeah because ultimately like it's like preying on people who are just sitting inside on the laptop today.
21:32Like, are you going to really make it out? Yeah. No. It's for stupid men who don't know how to regulate their emotions, don't know how to process their emotions and then think that getting rich is going to fix everything. And then are unable to get rich because of that too. Yeah. I don't think it'll be that long until one gets assassinated anyway, Loki. Yeah, honestly. Do you know what I mean? Like by someone that was failed by... What happens when someone invests a shitload of money into HHS Tiki Taki shit and everything? Well, that's happened. He got confronted by someone in Dubai. Yeah. Really?
22:03Like, when they filmed it. Really? Yeah, yeah. And he was like, I don't give a fuck. Whoa. He's a bad man. Yeah. The thing, the other thing that pissed me off. Wait. So, what are you playing at? The other thing that pissed me off and kind of found hysterical at the same time is this idea that women want to be led. Which is like, you know, we all want to be led. I don't think that's no we all like someone who is yeah in control of their life and confident and inspiring they take it to the degree of like um yeah that means I'm gonna earn all the money yeah and you're gonna clean and I'm gonna fuck loads of women and you're gonna fuck nobody yeah um and you honestly think your wife's at home not fucking other people you are babe I don't I don't know whether you think like girls are like this like dumb species that like don't exist like yeah girl i'd be fucking if i was in that situation which i never would be i'd just be and he was out there fucking gal i'd be cleaning my house getting pork class i'm doing it like are you dumb like are you actually like do you think that you are that powerful well yeah they do i guess you are that powerful that they solely rely on you i bet your kids aren't even your kids babe they're probably someone else's i get it do you think louis theroux could practice one-way monogamy no do you think louis theroux well one main monogamy i think as a concept isn't a concept i don't think that works do you think louis theroux um is good and bad yeah absolutely is that good head down is that is that really is that is that working for you really that's nice really i love that should i should i put a finger up there are you sure oh he's sweet i i don't know I disagree you can put it in my as well please I don't know but it was good we need strong men too we need strong men we need that guy from Rizzle Kicks or whatever or Jack Antonoff do we because apparently he's cheating Jack Antonoff's cheating on Margaret Qualley.
24:24There's that rumour going around girls. You should be so fucking lucky, mate. You get me? You get it. Anything else to say on the fucking... No. You've been watching straight. Wait, actually, sorry, sorry. What did you think of Louis Theroux's performance? Yeah, fine. I mean, Louis Theroux does the same thing every time. Yeah, exactly. And it fucking works. Yeah, I don't like... You can't really breathe into a Louvre Theroux documentary. He just does what he does. And like, it's just Louvre Theroux. Some of my friends were saying it was Netflixy. I was like, have a day off. Oh guys, have a day off.
25:01Have a day off. Also, um, that another, another criticism was that he should have spoken to more people affected by it. Which I kind of get. Yeah, I think that could be his film. it was good. It was a good, it was a good moment when, when we had those two guys. God, that guy, like, it actually was just a bit saddening. Do you know what I mean? Like seeing that guy be like, I lost my brother to suicide. I was homeless. I have nothing. But I just, I got to suck it up and get on with it. Depression doesn't exist. You're like. Suck it up and get on with it. Okay. Depression doesn't exist. Crazy. Crazy.
25:36Favorite part of the whole thing was the B-roll cut scenes. So like one of those guys was just running down the beach with his tits, with his tits jiggling. They did him dirty there. They did him so dirty. got dragged. Most embarrassing moment of the whole thing. I also love the bit where Louis just started filming the podcast and Louis went and dipped to ask his mate about it. And my room was like, on the podcast, I'm texting. I'm like, that's just weird. People say he's not direct enough or combative enough. He just fucked off around his house. He did whatever the fuck he wanted. I was quite impressed by how confident he was.
26:19Because he'd just sue, wouldn't he? He's got the whole BBC behind him. Yeah. Or Netflix. But I would be a fucking pussy in that situation. Oh, I would too. I'd just sit there like... Yeah. Oh, should we watch the clip about insemination again, about how that's going to make your... Oh, your ex is going to be... I wish that was the case. That would be so cool. Do you know what I mean? What would your kid be like if all your exes were... The joke addicts.
26:47Right. and last night Sue the Oscars happened and I know we really want to talk about this because it's really clippable like love the Oscars but like it's so boring this year wait why I actually thought I haven't watched much of it I thought I was happy I was happy with the winners but I could have told you I could have genuinely predicted the whole thing you thought Michael you thought Michael B was going to win it was either Michael B or Leonardo DiCap you think Timmy's too young Timmy just yeah it wasn't going to be Timmy also like his press ones start to go a bit sour at the minute. Do you know what I mean?
27:18Like, started to annoy some girls. Honestly, you lot need to have a fucking day off. A day off. But ultimately, like, glad Michael B won. Glad, what's face won? Jessie Barkley. Jessie Barkley. Yeah, glad that the other woman won. It is such a great pleasure. I hated her speech though, low key. Sorry, Jessie, like, love you. To the chaos of mothers. To mothers. You don't like mothers? Love mothers. Mother's Day was this. But you didn't like the message of I just thought it was boring. I'm like I just want like do me Olivia Colman tease boss me thanks for the Oscar make me laugh I don't know what did Olivia Colman do she was just like gassed she was just crying on stage wasn't she she was just really in it also I used to watch that not I offer what to get you fucking no I used to watch that in bed I used to watch Olivia Colman acceptance features because she's despair funny I used to watch those in bed and then during the Oscars it clips to one of our friends yeah like laughing and clapping wow okay but I'm not gonna tell you it is because then you'll go see it and then okay I'll tell you um why I've been my main Oscars FYP response has been dude how is Timmy gonna come back from this bro quite easily Timmy's gonna be fine guys I do feel bad for Timmy in a sense he's like the new Leonardo DiCaprio like everything he's like I want to be the best and then because he says that he's kind of like they're kind of gonna shaft him until he's like 40.
28:46What the fuck are we doing, guys? Do you know what I mean? Like, he did Bob Dylan quite well. Like, let's be real. I haven't seen it, but apparently he did it great. Yeah. And he did Marty Supreme where everyone was like, that's amazing. He's like, I want to be the best and everyone's like, study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the Unreal College Deal. Everything you need to study and play with select Windows 11 PCs. Eligible students get a year of Microsoft 365 Premium, and a year of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate with a custom color Xbox wireless controller.
29:20Learn more at windows.com slash student offer. While supplies last, ends June 30th. Terms at aka.ms slash college PC. So good, so good, so good. New markdowns up to 70 % off are at Nordstrom Rack stores now. Stock up and stay big on shoes, tops, dresses, accessories, and more must-haves for summer. Join the Nordiclub to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. What? I know. I get it. If I want to be the best, isn't even bad. Like if we compare it to like, I don't know, Kanye West, who was like, I am a God.
30:06Yeah. It's like, no, he wants to be the best and he's giving consistent. Yeah. Examples of him being really good. Now he has to do another film. I get it that people I get that people are sick of hearing him Yeah In Sea of Ng because he's been on a press run for ages What have you seen the deal he signed with Kylie to get married to her this year? The what? For them to get married? For this year it has to be a filmed wedding but guess how much the deal is for that Oof It's stupid money I'll go 300 milli No it's 100 milli Is it? 100 milli they have to get married by the end of the year and it's like a deal with like a TV network or something and it has to be filmed I don't know who the deal is with but basically yeah wow 100 milli get married for 100 milli I get married for like 100 thou 100 thou I just want to get married anyway yeah but what if the partner was okay mag okay who okay mag okay or hello that's even fiercer that's funny would you do a hello wedding yeah that's funny Bill wouldn't though that's the thing yeah I would Bill wouldn't maybe Bill would if he like knew how much he was yeah I think that would have to be like millions to convince me and Bill I guess there's no harm in getting your wedding filmed, I guess.
31:18What if it goes wrong? I just think it's embarrassing. I don't want a big wedding anyway. Wedding. Wedding? I don't want a big wedding. I don't need a big wedding. I met a bunch of fucking lovely Irish people in Dalston who were all a big fan of my D4 accent. And they could not believe that I'd never been. And I just want to say a big shout out to you guys. I hope you enjoyed Mascara Bar. I hate Mascara Bar. Yeah. Do you know what? I like things. No, I love mascara. love it when people are like we're going to Mascara I'm like yeah yeah I'm going too just on the Oscars I thought it was great that one battle after another one obviously I thought it was a good year for film I thought maybe unlike the Grammys sometimes granted my knowledge of film is much poorer than my knowledge of music but they the nominations were spot on yeah 100 % and fucking Amy Madigan for Have you seen Weapons?
32:14I've not seen it. Is it good? It's lit! Is it amazing? It's so good. What's it about? Is she the one where she's like, she looks mingin'? She's got micro bangs. Yeah, I've seen it. Oh, so... She gets like made proper old and mingin'? I've only watched two Oscars, Amelia de Moldenburg videos, but I've already seen that I got a question about Wagnamora's performative moustache in and Amy Madigan's micro bangs. Nice. So I'm getting in all the fucking annoying questions. See if you can peep which ones I wrote, guys. That's fun. Congrats on you. That's fun, but I don't... As like last year, I don't know if they actually used that many horror questions.
32:52But we're yet to know fully the extent of my questions. Anyway, Amy Madigan and Weapons. Weapons is about... It's a horror kind of... How scary? I don't really watch many horror films. Because I couldn't sleep last night because I woke up at the witch and I was there. have to stay awake for two hours. I would watch it with someone and I would watch it not before bed. Okay, well then I'm not going to watch it. I would think you'd be like me in that some of the earlier scenes. Is it supernatural or is it like murderer? Supernatural is more like kind of... Ghosts and shit. No, it's... Because that's the shit that scares me.
33:31The undead, ghosts because I believe in that shit and so like I'll be in bed and I'll be like... It's not ghost, it's more zombie. But it's weird because it starts as a very conventional horror film then it takes a switch to like um the the the same kind of two days being replayed from like five different perspectives um and then amy madigan is this kind of witch aunt who's coming to stay in town and basically these bunch of kids go missing and the teacher gets blamed for it but nobody knows why it's happened but it's the sort of i don't know what i was going to say was i feel like you would be the same as me during horror films in that you end up just laughing at some of the...
34:10No. Really? No, I'm like, I jump and scream. I went to see, not to curve it back, but I went to see the film Surat. Can I have it back? I'm used to... I'm no stranger to that. Alexa, play Captain Hawk by Megan.
34:28I went to the cinema. I went to see Surat at the Castle Cinema. Oh, yeah. So it is the wildest film. I don't, I didn't even know what it was in a rave. Lots of inspirational things where I'm like, do I make my use sexual next? Like I'm quite inspired. Like where is the right? Where is the raves in Morocco? We're in Morocco. Basically it follows this man who's looking for his daughter with his kid. Right. In a rave, in a rave, in a rave, but she's going around. Try not to spoil it because of our listeners. She, okay. And I want to watch. So he's basically trying to like find his kid. Yeah. And so he goes to like this traveling rave.
35:05i'm just thinking about it so gaggy so he goes he's traveling right anyway these ravers are like you can't come with us anyway he ends up tagging along in his car they get him all through whatever you get like it's really nice really touching he's gonna see his daughter and then crazy turn crazy turn like you the worst possible thing happens okay right and then they just leave and move on because they have to keep pushing because they're in the mountains in the middle of morocco oh and also while this is happening world war three is breaking up oh right it's kind of like on the radio where it's not really a point but it's basically like there's no basically hinting that there's no more civilization to go back to kind of thing wow then so he's like should I just fucking take a bunch of pills so this awful thing happens so then they're in the in the middle of like the desert this awful thing's happened he's mortified it's horrible and then they're all like we should take ayahuasca and like it's all like all hopes are so like we should take ayahuasca let's not you would never let's not you will never guess what happens when they dance to ayahuasca I It was only me and Bill in the cinema in the castle, right?
36:05So cute. It was like a full cinema to ourselves. It was lovely. I yelped. Like, I actually, I've had replies from my story saying, as anyone watched it, people reply and be like, I started screaming and like the whole cinema was shushing me. Like, but I wouldn't be able to, like, it is the gag of all. To the point, like, I can't believe it. I cannot believe it. It's hard to describe a film without saying. With a massive twist. But the twist is like, why would they even write that? but I was honestly I'd watch it again but like and then it oh it's crazy like it's fucking have you seen you haven't seen Rotting in the Sun with Jordan Fossman no that is a film that I've recently seen that I like but I struggle what's our movie yes I'll watch it tonight then because I'm in my movie bag I watched a film yesterday you've got a movie Bill does it's Lucy's oh but I watched Amaya yeah Oscar oh Sorry, package came for my partner.
37:06We're going to watch Surat. But similarly, describing films that have massive twists, Rotting in the Sun with Jordan Firstman meets gay guy in Mexico, meets his favorite Mexican director. And then the director is this depressed, ketamine-addicted guy. Jordan Firstman is playing himself. incredible film takes the maddest turn that you just can't describe it to anyone you won't be able to like picture it how are they doing the trailers because well this is a thing there was a few trailers that played it like so right I was like what's it about and Bill was like I genuinely don't know I've seen the trailer and you have no idea genuine there is no point to that film but there's every point to see that film if that makes sense it's like I don't know what that film was meant to like say it's honestly until you've seen it we won't be able to fully discuss it's fucking crazy okay I need to watch it can't believe it I watched a film called Out of My Mind yesterday with Chloe Sevigny in it Out of My Mind or something no can you put in Chloe Sevigny Argentina film Are you in love Magic Farm not Out of My Mind girl I was Out of My Mind watching it and it's on Mubi Magic Farm it's like this bunch of creatives yeah two stars I can imagine it is quite bad but I wouldn't even advise it but it was just nice to see like is it Nat Wolfe and Chloe Sevigny and all that lot but it is such a pointless film and I do you know when you like watch something you're like how the fuck did you start get funding for this like how did you convince somebody to get funding for that what's the what's the basic premise of the film creative like basically it's like an off trend type of thing or like a dazed and they send this like group of people so like Chloe Sevigny Nat Wolfe and stuff over to Argentina to make a film but they basically send them to the wrong place so they have to like fake story okay but whilst this is all happening like world war three is breaking out again no yeah basically but everyone just like gets ill and like but not in like a scary way it's just kind of like office politics like it is so pointless like by the end of it i was like i can't imagine that that they even did a screening and everyone sat there together like right interested yeah but like chloe seven years in it and like nat waltz in it so i'm like clearly why is chloe seven years such an icon to so many alternative girls and then like she's new york it girl and then she just became an actor and then like what's her biggest i actually don't know what her biggest film is she's just a legend a lot of our fans right now are like these guys because i was thinking that yesterday like i was like why do i know chloe seven yay i know i just know her because she's famous i know because she's famous and she featured on this soul wax tune that i really like and it's really thinking or talking kind of just talking it's really hot um yeah she's just cool speaking of music yeah sue came to the table this week guys not me with the james blake album yeah what do you want to say about it i thought it was fine so we went to the ballet the other day speaking of which is really funny oh yeah i went to sadler's world and we went there on the opening press night of like this new york performer called oh what's her name and there was four different acts um she was called tyler something and she did four different acts i think she choreographed it in the end it was this big like finale with like ballet dances but it kind of like it was very new york and it kind of like showed like ballet but then they had like street dancers and tap dancers all doing the same routine showing like the different ways okay so obviously like with ballet it's like about poise and like being really precise like street but it got like severely uncool it felt like i was watching like an episode of glee because it was It was like tapping.
40:45It was like stomp. It was like, it was very. It's reminding me of the Sinners music scene where they go back through. Yes, but it was less cool, less educational and more like millennial. Right. Like it was like, everyone was so deeply moved. Everyone stood up, but me and Bill were like, that was lame. Like it killed the whole thing. But the first one was like, the first act was like, she'd choreographed it. It was like proper ballet to James Blake music. Like old school James Blake. So one of the songs was, oh, I can't remember what it's called. It was like. My brother and my sister. It's the last track on...
41:19First album? No, the album with Metro Boomin and... Overgrown? No, and Travis. I can see the cover right now. It's just the one where he's... Him with a black background. No, like Mile High and stuff like that. Oh! I can find a song on that. Thingies of Insomniac or whatever. Are you in love No because I know that one Do your best impression For me I try my hardest for you Are you in love That one's a banger Are you in love Love him Basically this album Is just like love songs I felt like Yeah it was fine It was a James Blake album I very much enjoy them but like it must be difficult being James Blake kind of like creating a sound and now you like it must be very hard to create a second sound do you know what I mean he um like he's the best at him he can like one thing I will commend him for is that he is just active and he's he's bare active yeah he's working um and he just releases a lot of music and I think he's come out before and said that he is his own worst enemy in many ways in terms of creating because and that's why he's like more prolific as a producer sometimes yeah we're all like a collaborator i guess with rappers um because he says he like thinks less about whether it's good or not or like what what his identity is see that though but and so i guess maybe it's good that he's got over that that he He's clearly releasing more.
43:09I didn't love this album, personally. I just enjoy his soundscapes and the way he produces. I couldn't tell you if it was a standout track or whatever. I like just his albums. I like to pop on. It's always interesting. I really haven't felt deeply moved by an album since, like... Lord? It didn't deeply move me. Why? Oi, oi, oi! which is peak, but it didn't deeply move me. I thought it was lacking of some stuff. I'd say, if I'm honest, it's Brat. Like, I think Brat, like, not deeply moved me, like, but it did deeply move me. I thought, like, this is a cohesive piece of work with, like, that still includes, like, hits on it.
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43:49Like, I love a hit, as we all know. I don't think someone's done that. Like, hearing What Was That by Lord, I was like, this album's gonna be mega. And then, like, I listened to it, and I was like, God, some of these are actually, like, not very good songs. Like, and I feel like she's always good. which obviously is debatable, but I think like the second half of the album, almost like, can you remember Christine and the Queen's first album? Like was just hit after hit after hit. And then you got the album, like the second half of it was like, it was hard to get through. Like it was really hard to get through.
44:17I actually thought the, I look back at the Caroline Polacek's, the most recent album. Her discography is stellar. Like every album is like, no skips. God, I've got like a bean in my throat. Oh God. I do think the McGee album was life changing for me personally but I am a little nerd annoying
44:47what was the thing you wanted to tell me about that I didn't know about what did I say Jalil Jalil Juxanbury anyone want some Juxanbury so you're not on TikTok Yeah, so you don't tick on the talk. No, babe, Jalal's been back for months. Jalal is basically this, like, I think they're trans. Sophie, Sophie, darling, could you get the fuck out the way? Come on. Come to daddy. So Jalal is, like, this diva who, like, I don't even know how to explain Jalal. Have you seen her?
45:28Well, she's basically, like, this, like, trans woman. She came out as trans and then now she's like, I don't really care how people identify me. But she'll just turn up, she like, just like does like lives and stuff. And then she'll fly to a country like Budapest with no money and then like hopes that people spend, pay her money. But she just like does things, but everyone loves her now. Like, because there was a time where everyone was like making fun of it. And now everyone's just like, they want her to win. So like, this is her like first class. Plan B is a backup birth control option that's there for you when things don't go according to plan.
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46:34so what was jalal's come up just doing just saying like mad shit okay and basically saying like juxt and bris which is basically like which means what juxt and bris like head and like juxt gives someone no they're separate words juxt and then bris so bris is like head i think Okay. Jux Ambrose. Jux Ambrose. Jux Ambrose. Jux Ambrose. Anybody want some Jux Ambrose? Jux Ambrose. Jux Ambrose. Anybody want some Jux Ambrose? Hey. Okay. Okay. Oh. Um. Oh. Whoa. Whoa. A lot of, um. A lot of, um. A lot of weight fluctuation. No, that's a. That's filtered. That's filtered, obviously. Even so. Okay. And one thing about me, I'm real pretty.
47:22I'm real cute One and two And three more things about me I look good I look pretty I need to hide your mans You need to hide Everyone needs to start hiding their mans bro The best
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47:47Imagine being me Oh my god they're on live right now Oh yeah they that's what they do this day is that something you could help with is that something you could 2.7k in this room yeah Jalal's next up could help me with securing with securing if you're listening to the Straight Diva podcast right now and an advert just comes on we're getting ad money off holding someone else's live stream but basically Jalal is just like this icon and she's just doing her thing and I just wanted to let you know. Just wanted to platform her? Yeah, basically. She doesn't need a platform, she's more famous. Do you think she's got legs, as it were?
48:29I hope so. I think I fear with anyone on TikTok without getting, like, when someone gets big on TikTok and then doesn't make a backbone for themselves, i.e. doesn't go into like a career of like, even like having a podcast of like a repeated like media form, I fear like you do get swallowed up. Like, you could even look at people like Elphaba and like, just like so many people that pop off. Even like, kind of like the manosphere like you'll only be famous and do like shenanigans for a while before people get like bored of you without having like a backbone of like what do you actually do like what does hs like hs tiktok you must know that like eventually it's gonna dry up that like what's his back what's his backbone in the media sense i think that he's he's not like he's gonna get hired by anyone and all this shit like do you see what i'm saying yeah but he doesn't he doesn't need to because he's got such a big audience but you say that but then so did like there's so many of those youtubers that have gone like have like millions and millions of subscribers and like they keep doing the same thing but like people get sick of you zoella hs tiki talking zoella yeah like zoella still vlogs people like what's zoella doing now like she's still doing the exactly the same thing she was doing babe and i just got a family and like gets less views it's sad really isn't it yeah but jill Well, happy for you.
49:50Happy for you, Jalal. I would love to hear her speak some Farsi, because that was the search. Speak some Farsi? Farsi. What's Farsi? Farsi is the language of Afghanistan and some other countries that I don't know. Hey!
50:19We need some trans-Afghans. Shout out to Safa. Could be you. Spring is coming. Book your holidays now with the Straight Eva Travel Agency. We're doing flights to Tenerife. Alicante. Alicante. Benidorm. Berlin. Berlin Helsinki Stockholm Svola Copenhagen We're doing an all-inclusive Centre Parks trip Yeah Get a tick wank either from me or Louis Not at the same time And you have to pick one Yeah We're doing a day trip to Box Hill Yeah Which isn't the nicest place but To go mushroom picking Yeah And you get to trip with me and Sue Yeah And then we're going to do the sonatees Sauna Teas Nude Only Bring two towels obviously You have to bring those stupid fucking hats That make you look like a gnome Yeah but you only need to do that to protect your hair Of course Wait so sorry what are they doing there?
51:30I swear it's locking in the sweat Lock it in Lock it in Keeps your hair not affected by the heat Lock it in
51:41Aww She's so nice we're doing we're doing nights out in Manchester see so nice where would you want where do you want to go on holiday this summer I feel like we're going back to Sky and then we're going Barcelona for Primavera so if you go to Primavera see you there and then we might go somewhere else and then in winter we're going to do a big fat holiday like a big fat month away oh meeting January one no like yeah December January ones like go to like Asia or whatever oi there you go lagoon style lagoon style parties um okay do we have any agony aunt agony aunt well yes we do uncle lou sending us a pic because it's too long left my ass off um please use pseudonym ellie for me okay all right any advice on how to deal as if anyone gives a fuck ellie ellie we love you any advice on how to deal with the guilt over finding other guys sexually attractive i'd never cheat on my boyfriend but i feel so bad when i get a small crush i have naughty thoughts about someone else and i feel too awkward asking anyone IRL or my therapist for advice.
52:43What? First off, you shouldn't feel awkward speaking to your therapist. There were times though when I was in therapy that I used to like lie to my therapist. So have you done that and I'm like, yeah, just lie. They are paid to not tell anyone and you still don't want to talk. Anyway. Babe, bust one out to someone else. we raised a fucking evangelical Christian or something. Like you're allowed to think about other people like. Oh no, I've got to come to the vision of my love and only my love. Loser. Babe, just watch some porn and get on. But you're amazing and you deserve all the love. You do deserve all the love.
53:23But don't feel guilty. But I do know what you mean about feeling guilty, but ultimately, not in a rude way, he'd probably be doing it to somebody else as well. Exactly. Well, who's to say? But it's the fucking spice of life having a little fucking treat to yourself and fucking, you know. You're going to be 40 years into a marriage and still only thinking about this other person? Nope. Well, I hope not. It's not a way to live unless you're bare Christian. There's no rules to buss in an art. There's no rules other than not being a PJ. No, exactly. It's your nut. It's your nut to bus. Yeah. And that's it.
53:55Hey, Sue and Lou. 21-year-old cis lady who's just had her first series breakup finish. He broke up with me by telling me he's sometimes unsure if he loves me on a one-year anniversary and my heart was absolutely shattered. Fuck me. I was still hopelessly in love and honestly quite delusional up until recently I was so sad but I had accepted it and felt like I was starting to feel okay about it on Valentine's Day so off I took the next step and did a bag went to the store went to the store and got off with two beautiful ladies I woke up the next morning and felt 10 times worse about the situation it's so upsetting because I feel I thought I was finally making some progress for any attempt move moving on keeps making me feel like I'm taking two steps back how do you get over the feeling that you're the only person out there for you don't know if this is a tight topic but i'm going right over here thank you love you love you um love you healing and getting over and moving on is not linear and some days you ask me some days you can get absolutely like porked out by some new man and ultimately like you you might get home and be like oh but i miss the way he strokes my hair like you miss the way he stroked my but like yeah but unfortunately like it's not linear and you shouldn't feel bad also you probably felt bad because you did cocaine or like you did a bag or whatever but ultimately you went to superstore but ultimately yeah you felt bad because you just went to superstore we should go to superstore we should just turn up break the internet yeah we should do that uh but we um we i feel that you can speak on behalf of me yeah we feel that you just need to chill and like let yourself feel those feelings because one day you won't even remember that you felt those feelings like i went through i've been through two major breakups in my life they like were harrowing and horrible but now i can't even remember feeling that way about somebody do you know what i mean because you will get on and like just give yourself grace and time and like don't what will hurt worse is like making yourself feel bad about feeling nice feelings do you know what I mean yeah you're you're deeping it yeah you're deeping it and I would say crucially that um which I guess is what you've already said by saying it's not linear but this two steps back thing doesn't exist nothing's two steps back it was all part of the movie it was all part of the story you know you had to you had to get the bag out to know that you shouldn't have done that yeah okay um life is all about mistakes all right you just have to learn from them okay ellie no that was the last one no yeah no this is ellie um no this isn't ellie this isn't ellie um yeah and then what was the final thing she said like this feeling that there is no one out there for me what yeah what are you on about that's i mean i know you're going through a tough time but let's not there is something out there for you let's not get too crazy now okay there is someone for everyone, even my fucking weird ass family, man.
56:53Jesus Christ. If they've got hope, you've got hope. Yeah. Like Alfie Brown found someone in Harry Potter. And she's just had a breast job. Did she? Boobie job. Boo job. Boo job. Last one. Hey divas, need your help. I've really fancied a man, I know, since the beginning of uni. We both studied music at uni, and after months of waiting... the months of waiting for the man to message me he has asked me to help his mark to help market his music he definitely knows i fancy him why can i use you for promo as i've not been the most cool about it he's a loyal story like her but maybe i'm just delusional i've tried to organize plans but he seems to be a little flaky with organizing these days anyway we are planning on meeting next week what do i do to shoot my shot if plans work out also louis thought i'd shoot my shot as you You know you like yourself, I'm Scott.
57:43If you know, you know, but I'd never stand a chance as a Northern girly. Love the pod. What? Yeah. Never stand a chance as a Northern girly. Yeah. You don't know, bro. I'm trying to hit up Denise. Well, she got me.
57:59Never had a chance as a Northern girl. I'm here. I'm hurt by that. My mom's a Northern girl. You know what that means. Freudian TV. Freudian. Freudian ones Right what was the question How does she shoot a shot with this music guy That likes her stories The thing is though You've got to make sure that he's just not trying to take The piss out of you Basically like Utilising you for his own gain Or just accept That you're being used and just have fun With it and then get what you want And then leave Just be clear and communicate Communicative
58:45story likes for me that's bible yeah you're trying to vote if he's trying to be long on replies he maybe he just is a bit shit I mean he's doing a music degree so he's probably not the most put together guy probably not the most reliable guy so I would just run this see where this goes and if it you know if he is I would kick the can a little further down the road maybe he does just want to use you for promo who cares make it work for you put it on the CV and then and then fuck him and then never call him back and then make eye contact occasionally with him in the halls of Bim or wherever the fuck you are slide into Louie's DMs write a song about him go viral become a TikTok musician try and do live shows but you suck because you just went straight viral and you never cut your teeth doing like the live shows and then you manage to actually like knuckle down and you put some budget into the live show and you walk around stage with a little handbag and people love you and then you make one of the biggest songs like of recent times with Zara Larsson and then you're set I've been so I think did you see M &EK's video about M &EK happy for him yeah I love them them I've been so I think and I've been Gary Barlow and you've been watching Straight Diva goodbye goodbye goodbye bye
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