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0:38That's why you Rack. I am in control. Yeah. Yes, I am in control. A new season brings changes of epic proportions. The weather shifted completely in two weeks. And in an attempt to match the grand majesty of Gaia herself, to promote new beginnings and conjure new possibilities, I'm going to spend 20 % of my current bank balance On three little doodles on my arm I'm going to buy a notepad to write down all the things I'll never end up doing I'm going to buy a book when I should have finished the seven by my bed I'm going to sign up for the nice gym I'm going to buy nice coffee and a nice mug Because you need to invest yourself And the only way to start good habits Is by spending more money on arbitrary things Welcome to the show, welcome to Straight Diva Snaps I got a ting I got two tings Welcome to Welcome to Freeze Freeze How are you Lou?

1:40This is Freeze

1:43For those Who aren't Constantly on Instagram Reels Get alive Me and Sue have had a big week Big And we were featured on an Instagram account that has 1.2 million followers today. Shout out Freeze and a lot of series art people. Freeze, I believe, is an art fair? Freeze, I believe, is art in the trees. Orange, Dorhenge, that's an awfully hot coffee pot. Eminem, MGK this? Really good. Yes. For those of you living under a rock, we were interviewed by Freeze. Lord knows why. They asked us to do it. I really don't know why, but we're really, really grateful. Shout out to the girls who had us. Yeah, literally.

2:34Kimmy and Flossie and... Kimmy, shout out. Nikki? I think so. Shout out to you girls, because also at the same time, check the numbers. Guess who does the most? Yeah. Check the numbers. The video of Sanford's next to us. 8 ,000 views. I saw. How much is ours? 80. And some comments. Not all good. Like Clark is. Maybe some people were saying, why are they not taking the art seriously? Why are you taking it too seriously Is the question Why are you deep in it I think about it And also the Gallerist Or whatever the fuck She loved it She was like we need more fun We do need more fun We need people to have fun Because we know that The Gen Z Yep Likes to laugh Ah So despite kind of Ogling From nearby I think they're gonna have us next year I think I think we're gonna be hosting The Freeza Awards I think they're gonna fly us out to Seoul if such a thing exists.

3:26But it is a funny world, isn't it? That we... Funny. It's so funny that... Obviously, yeah, we're not fine art people. And yet to, in a maybe kind of smart, you could say, maybe hopeless, maybe desperate move, they've asked two podcasters... Yeah. Two Instabuddies to check out some art. And the initial idea that we came up with, which I think we should say, because it's funny. Which we absolutely should say. And they rightfully vetoed, was that we were going to... Keith Haring had us down there. Yeah. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, Diva. But we thought it would be funny if we presented Keith Haring as a kind of slept-on...

4:14Yeah, underground artist. ...that we discovered through his collaboration with this little-known brand called Uniqlo. Uniqlo, yeah. And they kind of swiftly vetoed that. But the gag is, is if I knew Keith Haring, which I didn't, but I just know that he was done. Is it Haring? Haring, Haring, same thing. Haring, Haring, same thing. Bring, bring. You're a little poet today. Honestly, what's that person called? No, not going to. They're going to hate that. Strong. I think Keith Haring would want us to do that. Yeah. Because he was gay. He was gay, bitch. Like all the weird, all the boring. He therein was gay, he was terrific.

4:55No, but like, they're like, all the gallerists are like sat around and I'm like, that man would have keyed with the dolls, fucked with the dolls and threw it down at the club. And you're sat here like telling us about like his life as if it was boring. Like it wasn't boring. Look at the pictures. They are doodles. And just because you make a joke out of someone doesn't mean that their art can't be taken seriously. Exactly. So Freeze will come back next year and we'll host it. um that's why i've been making loads of burner tiktoks about how um shit yeah writers that's fine and that is fine getting the numbers up though getting those ugc up user generated content for those of you that don't know just in industry time um but yeah so we freezed we freezed we um so i think not the easiest person to go around a gallery with if i hope you don't take that too because you have the attention span of a dildo and i just pointed things like that's that's me should we do that yeah um but to be honest i'm not i'm not the best person either to go around the gallery just go around looking for the pink thing okay we'll do that one and then they were giving us like recommendations and it was like actual art and i was like this isn't fierce yeah they wanted us to do a triceratops yeah and then they also wanted us to do like paintings like boring paintings I try serotops is cool cuz obviously a fucking dinosaur dinosaur but is that cool it's dead it's not I've never met one it's not a piece of art that part can I try serotopsy this probably not a weekend on stage speaking of people on stage bad bunny on stage feel something in my waters no I'm I type yeah he knows what he's doing what's been playing everywhere I don't really know but there's just this video where he just looks beautiful and speaking of the weekend as I told you just before we had my man is my man is your man who I'm often defending horny people but The Weeknd who's over there?

7:08A ghoul A little green ghoul A goblin The Weeknd is one of the few people I can't defend for his horniness he is too horny and also like did you watch The Idol? he was being a bit weird in that wasn't he? but he also cast himself as that guy yeah exactly The Weeknd's a nonce You heard it here first. Nance. Nance. Anyway, not to digress any further, we went to Freeze. It was quite stuffy, but ultimately quite cool. I was impressed. And chat out Illy because they gave us free coffee. Yeah. And cocktails. Yeah. And they got us in the building. Saw Tommy Tuchel, manager of England. Didn't see anything else.

7:53And I met a lot of Straight Leave. When I went back on Saturday, there was a lot of Straight Leave listeners. So I think you've come up to me. Maybe it's that all the people that work in these kind of intellectual industries such as Freeze or Art World. Are intellectual enough to listen to Traitiva. Exactly. Or this is like their kind of reality TV. Yeah. Garbage time. Yeah. Or maybe we're intellectual. Speaking of which, Traitiva, but we're going to get to that later. But keep listening if you want to hear about the Traitiva take on Traitiva. How are you? We haven't even done the check-in. How are you otherwise?

8:26I'm good. I'm going on tour tomorrow. Tomorrow, tomorrow Yeah, so going on tour tomorrow I'm done out But I'm about to start and I'll be so good on tour So I can't wait to see you there By the time this goes out, I think I'll be playing like Maybe Glasgow that day What day is this coming out? No, this is coming out tomorrow Alright, tonight I'll be playing Leeds And then the day after Glasgow Newcastle, all that Bristol, Manchester London, really really excited yeah that's it i need i say more i feel like a lot of stress in my body well you've had a like i think people won't understand that you've been in rehearsing like even shocked me to hear you've been rehearsing like intensively yeah basically for the last three days yeah which to be honest i think i'm realizing more and more is like is what is normal for like a tour but i assumed through my lack of knowledge that it was like people had way more time.

9:31So you've basically been like rehearsing really intensively for three days, right? Yeah, it feels that way. Which is mad. But I'm a bit done out today. So I feel like, I think I just want to be on that tour bus kinking about and like, and then I think I'll chill out there. Like I'll like step on the tour bus and just be like, love. Well, you're a star. Oh yeah, I'll step on the tour bus to everyone else to shut up. Shades on. Put my headphones on But yeah How are you? Alayda Wait I just wanted to ask you Who you've been channeling in rehearsals Rihanna Okay I need to stop singing That's what I do when I'm tired I sing a lot I like when you sing I know but I've been singing a lot So I don't like when you sing for like You sometimes don't stop Yeah Yeah For sure But then it is quite cute when you get excited And you're enjoying it Thanks I'm good Good What the fuck has been happening in my life?

10:30I got a maternity pillow Good for you For five quid Nice And how's the pregnancy? She's good Yeah She's kicking Is she? Yeah, she's just like a mum Feisty on you Ew I've never done that before And I didn't like it It didn't feel right In between is humour I released a music video which is something I want to bring to the podcast this week and not because I'm complaining that nobody listens to our music at least this time, maybe but still please stream our music it just brought up an interesting question to me, or a couple but firstly, is the music video dead? yes Like I realised While I was making the music Well I didn't make the music video While I was commissioning the music video Shout out to Sergi Fidesz and Misha Notley For making it happen And obviously it's a great Artistic thing It's like really cool to see your song Come to life Contextualised come to life Whatever And this video tracks it through Like the regression of man or whatever Which is great and really cool and a great idea which is quite an expensive idea.

11:53Yeah, it's a thing. And music videos it's so fucking hard to get someone to go from Instagram to YouTube. It's like persuading a fucking depressed person out of bed. I know, this is the issue. Because YouTube, there'll be videos of me that have like 600 likes. I'm like, I have 600 ,000 likes on a video of me being a cat. Yeah Like guys Come on I think we need to like Click the link diva I think YouTube is a whole Other beast That you need to Completely nurture itself Yeah you have to Thumb in Exactly Thumb in and finger Well and Like nurture her Clit herself Yeah You can't just expect To be bringing You need a rose toy Sloppy seconds for her No Having penetrative sex And a little Clit buzzer Yes exactly I'd say this is If I know I can imagine That's what But no, I feel like the sad, the sad, I feel like fucking knocking someone at, you know.

12:53Yeah. I feel like the sad ant meme with the little stick. Oh, okay. Trying to get people to watch a music video. Because it does, it has great feedback on Instagram. But when they eventually do, they'll move over there and it'll be good. This is a long game now in the industry, my love. Where it's like, where you make content and then there's a backlog of when a song pops off, then they have a beautiful video to look for in retrospect. Yeah. True. Do you know what I mean? that's a long game it's the law honestly though like I've been releasing music and I've been like oh is this flopping and then I'm like give it another year this will be massive the launch doesn't matter it don't no it doesn't it's all retrospective yeah you get so caught up in the launch exactly realise that nobody everyone's listening to music like at least four weeks after a song comes out exactly and to be honest I'm guilty of that as well honestly I have a new music show on Foundation FM which just came back from now shut up and I was just playing tell them what it's called How sucy is it For any Gleeks in the room But this time I honestly play just loads of Image and Heap and Alicia Keys Great That's exactly what I would want to hear on a two I think show Yeah But I actually did forget to play your song Which is really peak actually Nobody listens to radio anyway it's okay I know I'm really sorry I really forgot I'm sorry That's okay Do you like doing radio shows?

14:13No I love it I don't know like if it was BBC and I was getting paid then yeah but I enjoy Foundation I'm very great and I'm so great for the opportunity and I know that I'm like incredibly it's used to promote my music uh which it does and I play like I played like a song that hasn't come out yet on there today so if you want to listen to that it's there but it it doesn't move anything in my soul right the team are all amazing it's female-led non-binary-led and I'm just like it's great but I yeah I'm not I'd love to have like a radio show on like a big station but I'm not do you know what I mean yeah it's just as much like today I realised that like I don't know how we've done it but how have my life become basically being a Transant and Dirk I thought about that today and I was like but like we genuinely could do it like name another duo well Jack and Ash could say Jack and Ash they're obviously very big and actually I feel like there's a few But I can't think of any I think it's them They're like the best Because they're already on BBC But then it's us But we want to be on BBC We're on MTV I think from Me personally And I'm sure you're the same I would Adore to be A BBC radio presenter But It's not my first choice right now No And there's other stuff It's what you do When your career's dying Exactly There's other stuff I want to try and do first Yeah Namely music Well I'd want to do like Rochelle Humes And be in one of the biggest Girl groups of all time That would be so sick Have a song like Ego by The Saturdays And then But also just really Like at 40 I'd like a BBC show Yeah exactly When Iggy Pop finally dies And Radio 2 And you can like You don't have to pretend To like all this kind of New music that's coming out Yeah You can just play the hits But here's Alicia Keys Again Try sleeping with a broken heart Have you ever tried Sleeping in my bed Touch me Feel me Nobody ever shut it down like you My Radio 4 show would be called Desert Island Dicks And you'd have to pick Who you'd have on a desert island to kiss Who would be your desert island dicks?

16:23Bill How's that? To Kit, yeah You'd be a fun guest My boyfriend Fine, fine Pick celebs Okay Who knows them all

16:42I don't know who was being Natalie Portman Okay Pre-Zionism Yeah Oh yeah Post-Leon Because she was a kid Yeah Yeah Who would I say? Nigella Lawson Who do I fancy? Oh that one that you Squat Alana Dalry And Nathal Kain And makes Julia Fox I don't know I'd have him then You sexy I don't know I really don't see celebrities like gosh I fancy you Anton Griezmann

17:16Somba Somba's been getting hit Conan Gray, why? Because someone went to his gig and he was basically he apparently told the crowd to bark for him which is you know maybe funny Defendable Apart from they're all 13 And then he kind of came out And defended it as like It's just brain rot You don't get it It's not brain rot though is it I think you could defend it as brain rot I still think the context is unignorable If you knew it was 18 plus it's funny Yeah God who would have wanted to kiss I honestly don't think like that It's okay I was going to shout Bill Maybe you're asexual I can tell you for a fact I am not Who would want to fuck me?

18:11Eating with Todd Matty Healy Yeah Jeremy Clarkson I like men and mingin Um

18:22Not so women Who's a woman? Who is a woman these days? What is a woman? I'm alright lad Anyway sorry to digress But fucking hell Why don't I fancy anyone? It's good yeah carry on i think someone the music video not doing as well on youtube as i wanted it to yeah much like everything because you know it's hard jack o'donoghue there we go it's like you know when something flops yeah well it's not this flopped but you know we like to use the word flop and it's a bit dramatic but it does make you think like what what does success actually mean to me yeah and i don't know and i wanted to ask you what does success look like in music what it's funny because i think virality and stuff like that only matters when you're not booked if that makes sense and i'll i'll continue to explain this when i'm at my least employed i like i haven't got any like work and at the minute like now i've got this tour on i'm not like i post online but i'm not stressed if a video goes big it goes well then that's great because i know that i'm already booked however like i think it was twigs that said like she didn't something like something happened and then she was like i'm not getting booked for gigs anymore because i didn't show my new album or something like that i can't remember what it was but it's that it's that thing it's like if you don't get clicks don't get the opportunity however then once you've got the opportunity you kind of chill out on the click do you know what mean so like right now i'm really not asked about go viral or whatever i'll keep posting i'm like really happy and i think the freeze thing's good because it shows 1.3 million people that we should get hired and it's like external exactly um and i know there's a couple of the content bits i've got until like i don't know mid-november and then it's like okay i'll probably panic i'd be panicking again then but i think virality it is i saw someone i know i don't know why they come from my feed by like tiktok tips whatever and this girl was like how the thing works the algorithm works for tiktok is you actually do need to keep up the clips and then they could go viral later like it just is what it is i actually disagree with that so do i but i think it's a common misconception that you need to be posting on tiktok every day every that's what i did when i first when you first to build an audience yeah people get sick of you i think people are sick me now i think like i i hope something bangs from this album cycle but like it's like project cycle but like i think people are like oh she's back with another song yeah do you know what i mean it's like oh if someone listens to like one song we can make it big and i can chill out and i just give you the project and we'll leave no but then you won't be it's actually your fault guys yeah but then you then you'll have new problems then well yeah they'll always you won't be satisfied Right after that, it's like, oh, I've only got one hit.

21:15Yeah. I'm a fucking one hit woman. But then it's like the same conversation of like, what's too much money? Do you know what I mean? Okay, but I think the thing I'm wondering, because I was like, oh, well, it would be like someone, someone I really respect saying like, they liked my music. Or like when people message me like, about, you get random DMs and they're like, oh, your song reminded me of this, or your song helped me through that. That's crack. but like it does it doesn't in the long run it doesn't do anything yeah well and is it like that it's unavoidable that it's from external validation or like your your definition of success but i think external validation stops now after like for example with myself charlie xiac said she followed me on tiktok i'm making words i'm never like i'm never gonna fail like literally though Like I don't Like every time Someone like messages me I'm like that's nice Or like you get an opportunity It's like that's nice Or it'd be like Or like when I start Making friends No but like I think when I went And stayed at Shamir's Like it was just kind of like Oh like this is what it's like Working with like your idols So then Everything since that I used to bump lapsy all the time Like 16 year old me Would die from it But I'm now used to the fact That like A lot of the people I used to when I was 16 I know or I've met Or do you know what I mean So it's like this weird thing True And then obviously obviously it's lovely and you know you feel like oh my god that's so kind that they recognize me but it's just kind of there's also i think it does all i think the thing that makes me sad sometimes is like that has wore off do you know what i mean yeah i get you i think but the as i think you're insinuating there's benefits to that as well which means you like feel like you belong more or like that you're kind of it makes you feel like you're going in the right place i think that's I think that's the thing like it makes you feel like you're in the race but also I'll throw this back at you I think if you got booked for Glastonbury you would go like yeah yeah yeah crazy for like two hours yeah exactly and then you're like okay now I have to play Glastonbury okay so what does success mean to you?

23:26in all honesty peas and that yeah like I know it's horrible but like no it's not I don't think it is success means that and chilling out and being content in what I've got to do but I think I still worry about money now and I think that would be a nice thing to get off my plate but I guarantee when I eventually get the money which I will, I'll have another issue for sure as we all famously watched me this year when I was like, oh I've just left my job and I still want to kill myself so I can't wait to see what other issues lie awake and there will always be watches but I don't think it's bad to say that money it would be so cool to just get just from a freedom perspective in terms of how you could get paid solely to do music and also like the ego of yeah um so i don't think that's a bad thing to say at all i think it's probably the same for me and like not even like oh i need to be rich or is yours rich i'd like to be really i need to set my bar higher i'd really like to be really i just like to be okay no i want to be like stonking rich like a lot if someone was struggling i'd be able to sort them out rich that would be nice like i would have to get the bill every time rich and i wouldn't mind that rich because i'm that rich rich speaking of rich um we were with go on lindo chocolatier a lint chocolate gooey creamy center rich sorry carry on delicate flaky exterior uh talk about my skin we were with a lot of rich people on thursday and friday yeah And not just at Freeze Oh yeah But because we went to Guys we went to two parties Yeah we were in the scene last week Boobs And Of all the weeks I expected Sue and I To be active And out And at the parties Showing face It was not going to be Freeze week No But Where were we Sue?

25:16First night We went to the Nike And Charlotte Knowles party Bash Which was fun And very like Sceney All the girls were out Which was actually wonderful and we met a lot of good divas. They're like, everyone that was at that party, I was like, I actually like everyone here. And then we met a bunch of people that I didn't know, but I've known offline. And like, that was really, really lovely. And then where were we on Friday, Lou? Maybe I won't even name it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's fine. I think it's interesting. Well, yeah. Friday night we were at some hotel in Liverpool Street. Yeah. For a magazine party.

25:54Which I didn't get invited to. you got invited to i got invited to and i have no fucking idea why i was invited it wasn't a magazine i'd heard of yeah me neither it's a cool magazine like upon looking through their instagram i don't know much about the magazine but i i said to you i was like should we go like in this hot off the kind of win of our like wow that was great going to the charlotte knolls nike thing because it felt like fun but also like good to be about and we went after freeze we went after the reason we were riding away we felt like celebs yeah so we were like let's fucking strike while the iron's hot and go to our second party and the iron was cold in this party and the iron was cold and i i think it's so interesting that because after the first night i was like you know what not like i had a particularly deep conversation with anyone on thursday but that was it was shallow it was vacuous but it was actually really fun a key to everyone everyone was quite funny and everyone, you know, nobody thought that this conversation was like that, the most meaningful conversation in the world, but the drinks were flowing and the vibes were good and people were having a good time.

26:58And it's fine that it wasn't like, it was maybe a little bit superficial. Yeah. It was fine, as long as you're aware of that. But then Friday night. It felt exciting on Thursday night. It felt exciting. I think that those good people, that kind of type of scene, it feels like the people that in like five, ten years would have done something with themselves. And I was like, okay, I can't wait to see where this person is in five, ten years. I can't wait to see where this person is five, ten years. Friday, it was like artists. But like artists that like either have money or like, or just like painful about art.

27:31And I did, it wasn't even that we struggled. It was more, we were just kind of like there. Did we just not know anyone there? Yeah, but there were people we did know there. Other than Jessie, because we love Jessie, but like. And Niall Ashley. And Niall Ashley. but the rest like the other people that i knew of there weren't weren't the girls like i i don't really know what that party was for it was uh like what he was even trying to do other than show wealth my favorite bit was this girl at the dj set and she was playing like um ethel kane like second album just instrumentals like noise instrumentals oh like the dark ambient one Yeah, but she was just like sat at the desk doing nothing.

28:16But she had like headphones on. And I was like, you can't be mixed in this, babe. That's crazy. Yeah, that was crazy. But ultimately, just interesting for me, because as I kind of almost think I say too much at these parties, I'm like, I don't go to parties like this often. But we were inspired on the Thursday party. We were actually inspired. We were like, we should start going out more. Yeah. So girls, you want to see a party? Because we don't really do that much. I know we should though. We should. Do you know what? what was nice is i'm gonna say this and i hope it doesn't sound like a wanker but like people are excited we were there and i don't mean as in like we're alex kanzani right but like people were happy to see us and we're happy to see them if that makes sense maybe maybe that was it maybe on thursday everyone was like i feel like a lot of people knew us were giving us ego boosts also we were giving them back they're like it was like mutuals yeah friday no one cared that True, we laid them back.

29:06There were fun people there. And we also had, if you want a lesson in how not to pose at a fashion party, go to slide 16 of 20 on the LNCC Instagram. And I felt guilty, honestly, I think I told you, because I feel like you can, you've done editorial, you can pose for a picture. in a moody way whereas I'm like there's no way I'm doing that so he's like and then he's making me laugh because he's just like so I put my back to suit and so my face is like you know what I mean I'm like I was dealing with a white person's smile I can't be sincere in this room of people but now we know did you know did you know so is my is my next step to like make my version of events work for the context so like be a goof be a goof but don't over rotate so that you're showing your whole fucking waist.

30:07Or, or. It was when you turned around and I was like, I'm not turning back to back with you, girl. But you did. So I said that.

30:15Yeah, I was like, girl. But yeah. And then the guy that was taking photos at the other party on the Friday, I was like 60 ,000 followers. He followed me the other day. Come on. So I'm excited to see that photo too. So all in a day's work. It's just, it was one of the more cloudy influencer bizarre weeks. And you know what? Wasn't that bad? Let them roll For now it's good There might be a time where it's not good But for now Batter up

30:48Elsewhere In news This week There's a show On BBC One called Celebrity Traitors I think it's called I've never heard of that okay what's basically i'm juking i'm juking um what do you think i'm obsessed okay me and bill lock the freak is it on tonight it's on wednesdays and thursdays oh shit were you a fan of regular traitors the the normal traitors yeah which the lowly peasant traitors freak traitors yes and i I think that this is the only series where I actually prefer Celebrity for being on it. Big Brother, I don't really care for Celebrity Big Brother. Well, I do when it was good, but like, you know, like...

31:37Okay, this is going to be fun because I disagree. Tell me why you like the Celebrity version. Because Stephen Fry's on it and Alan Carr's on it in the same thing. Yeah. And I like this never happens. They are good. I love Alan Carr so much. I do love Alan Carr. I've loved Alan Carr for years. I'm an OG Alan Carr fan. I feel Oi Someone just walked in Looking a bit leg On their way to five a side Come on Oh god sexy boy Obviously I got asked to play But I couldn't make it Yeah Because I've got something on But No I do love Alan Carr He is the Best part of the show He's the funniest I think he's the funniest Comedian I feel like Alan Carr Has like Three or four Moods So you've got The evil Alan Carr Yeah when he's like deal with it he's like you've got um bored alan car which is when he just says let's just get rid of her now before she poisons everyone um and then you've got alan car that doesn't know how to talk and eat at the same time why why is jonathan take on the sheer of scoffing yeah scoffing yeah he's a scoffer for sure we love you alan But he is the saving grace of the show I also thought Jonathan Ross While not most entertaining Good at his job Yeah for sure But I disagree with you fundamentally because I feel like The Celebrities As charming and let's be honest As incredible of a line up As it is usually when it's celebrity Reality TV it's like I'm a celeb Big brother they're clutching there's a lot of people you don't know who the fuck they are clutchy biscuits this is a good line up but I kind of feel like they're all a bit too hate to use this word again performative well we were saying everybody there wanted to be a traitor because you get more screen time get more famous Kat Burns has gone up like 100 ,000 really?

33:46well she was like thank you so much for 900 ,000 followers the other day and now she's like 932 ,000 already damn it makes you incredibly famous it is probably one of if not the biggest show the fourth episode yeah the fourth episode of Celebrity Trader was the most watched really TV isn't that right what was it Bill damn the women's Euros and something else were like the most watched things but also the fucking right so the problem is is that because they're celebrities I feel like they sometimes hold kind of punches back And I also think they're scared of the bigger celebrities. I think the reason people aren't saying Jonathan is they're scared of him.

34:26They're a bit too nice for each other. But also the problem is, I think fundamentally, that they're not fighting for money. They're fighting for charity. And while that's brilliant, when they're doing the fucking screaming into the void track ID. Yeah. Oh, I actually skipped it. That was just filler. I know. Well, we skipped the challenges. that was shit because you watch it the next day out of Charlotte Church with her head down a well Charlotte Church don't I won't Pride of Wales I love the Welsh we don't want to get into any more fucking trouble you don't need to tell me about Pride it's half of myself love you bye Bill what song would you see you soon what song would you scream into the well like if you had one song and your life depended on it and you had to get them to idea.

35:22Yeah. Just for context, if you haven't seen it, they're screaming songs. They hear a song from a fucking ghoul or whatever it is and then the other people in another place have to idea. It's boring. Yeah. What song would you scream? White Jays, White Porsche, White Whips, White Horse, High Bitch, High Bitch, High Bitch, High Bitch. Please stop, please stop, please stop, please stop. That fit look like you butted at a key, are what else tell though? Bad baby. Or the one about Alabama. Tattoos, piercings, and she just learned to twerk. Where it's like, you said I won't come back for more, you dumb, dirty bitch.

36:03Hey, hey, hey, hey. Watching my little honey do. I can't damn them. Bring back my baby. Hi, Sophie. Hi, Sophie. Did I tell you about Sophie's food? No. Sophie makes me, unfortunately I'm allergic to this cream and she loves me and I love her. But you can get something called Live More by Purina or Live Better or something like that. And it's got an enzyme in it that kills the enzyme that makes you allergic to cats in cats. And then it gets them through food to like within three weeks. Because what it does is they get chickens, put them close to cats, make them live with cats. And then the chickens create an enzyme so then the cats don't like allergic to them.

36:44I don't know how it cancels it out. Anyway, what would you think? We're currently looking for sponsorship of the podcast. Yeah. If this sounds like you, Purina, any reps from Purina in, get in touch. We'd actually love more sponsorships, guys. Yeah. Come on, PR girls. I want Christmas presents. Come on, Brian. I don't mean gifting. I mean, like, I want to buy my family Christmas presents. Yeah, same. Anyway, what would you shout in a whale? Oh. Oh, na, na. Oh, na, na. Other thing Why are they playing like Orchestral covers of Linkin Park I know I tried so hard But got so far Crawling in my skin It's like Love Island music It actually is Like come on we're better than this Exactly I just think I'm a bit underwhelmed And I do know, I hold my hands up, but I'm a contrarian when it comes to these things.

37:51Quite contrary. Mary, Mary. That I feel like I'm not a part of, maybe. And they're, like, widely, widely enjoyed. Although I did get into Love Island. But I just don't think it's that good. I don't find it. Yeah, I know what you mean. I get that it's, like, it's good garbage. It's, like, it doesn't require much. And I get that it's fun. The sense of dramatic irony. It's fun watching people fool each other That's always going to be entertaining But it just doesn't hook me in And I don't know why And that's okay And I think it's an insecurity of mine Because I feel bad about spending so much time on my phone Watching videos of this guy Kershaw Oh Have you seen Kershaw?

38:34No, he's Kershaw He's this guy You'll probably recognise him He's this guy who walks around And spits on the ground to like the streets I want to make a sound No, he's always got music on it No No, no, no, no, no, no, no Kershaw Oh, it's Talisa and JME Here we are This guy I have no idea who he is Spitz? Yeah I don't want to see that Honey, did you invite the Minions over? Well, you know how we talked about getting Wi-Fi from Xfinity? Yeah. I ordered it this morning. It was online in minutes. Then they showed up. So they just came over to use the Wi-Fi? For what?