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1:35Nice to see you. Welcome to the pod. Our name is Sue and Lou and it's really nice to meet you. Sometimes we say that at the start of episodes. We used to say it at the start of every episode, but then we felt like it was becoming a bit like a catchphrase maybe. Yeah. Sis felt off boots. How are you? Good, thank you. Yeah? Yeah, I've curved the depression skid. Good for you. I'm feeling a bit, we've postponed this recording because fucking I didn't sleep well last night. No. And I, well, yes. I didn't, and I don't know why. I read for a bloody hour. And that's the only reason I'm bloody reading.

2:13To get to bloody sleep. Goosebumps. Captain Rope. Horrible Histories. Some close their eyes. Real page dinner. Page three. Hello. Hello. This isn't my formative wanking story. Was it page three? No, it wasn't page three. I just don't think boobs are sexual at IMO. I think everyone should get their boobs out. Do I think boobs are sexual? I really don't. I think we can have boobs in a sexual way and a non-sexual way. Yeah, I agree. We can have faces in a sexual way. Everything can be sexualized. Sexual face. Sue sexualises children Ian Watkins died Ian Watkins Ian Watkins Ian Watkins Ian Watkins Who's Ian Watkins He didn't die He didn't get died He got died He got killed by a drill rapper in prison Oh is this the guy The Lost Prophets Yeah yeah yeah He got killed by a drill rapper In prison I knew it was in prison I didn't know it was a drill rapper Shouldn't be a pedo Should y 'all I really don't know much About the Lost Prophets They had one song About like screaming On like the rooftops I think it was called Rooftops.

3:24Were you ever in that world? Were you ever an emo? No, I'd like to be an emo, but my mum would have beat me up. More goth? Claire's accessories? No, I wasn't allowed to do anything with my body. My mum was like, you literally can't do anything with your body until you're an adult. Then when I turned into an adult, I was like, well, how about hormones? Bitch, watch me. Yeah, literally. Other than that... Were you goth emo? God, no. No. I didn't have any kind of discernible subculture that I went through apart from maybe like street wear. Yeah, apart from being a baddie. A baddie basement bitch.

3:59I wasn't a baddie. You were in basement now, innit? I was in the basement. Faggotsies. I was more focused on, you know, how I could resell my hundreds jumper that I just bought that was hideous. More interested on how early are you going to get to Soho on Thursday? More interested in Declan Rice's Latest post in the basement Actually speaking of Soho I've been spending a lot of time there recently Oh queen And Guys You heard it here first, Soho's actually cool It's fierce, it's always been fierce I guess I just didn't really Give it a proper chance because it's too Touristy I've been living a Soho life, I've been in the French house And I've been thinking, let's go discover the French house I went there for my Friend's birthday the other day as I spoke about on this podcast, but I got so many recommendations for good bars.

4:52I didn't know. I knew about Below the Stone's Nest. Do you not know about that? No, no, no. That was the one I did know about. Oh, I don't like it in there. Oh, I lie. I lie. It's okay. When me and Laura were getting together, we went there for a date. Wow. You thought we really need to inject some fucking romance into this. Let's spend£13 on a Paloma. Yeah. And then we told everyone we were getting together and everyone was like, right. I didn't go to Trish's, But a lot of people told me to go to Trish's Yeah, Trish's And that's all I can remember right now That's okay But otherwise, Sue, I'm pretty good If anyone's got any sleeping tips besides reading Do you want a melatonin to take home with you?

5:30Oh, yeah Alright, I've got But then people are listening People are listening and they're going like, don't do that You get them from Spain, they're not prescription You get them from Spain, love You get them over the counter And you get them in the States You freak Do you want a melatonin? You can have a melatonin Yes, please Okay, fine Is it a gummy? I like the gummy No one is uphill Maybe you want the 5mg Start me slow But you need to take it like this evening So after the podcast Take it the evening And it starts with your natural sleep hormone And by the time you go to bed It'll like knock you out Oh so take it So you take it at like 8pm So that if you want to sleep at 10pm So it like kicks in with your natural sleep It's funny how we're just becoming There's a lot of health talk Yeah Speaking of which Why don't you give us an update On your ADHD Okay guys Okay So I actually did see a comment And I actually thought our last podcast was really good.

6:17Yeah. And he got lots of comments below, so very ecstatic and thankful. But I did notice that he was very woe is me, as someone pointed out saying, love this, but woe is me. And he was that, and I was complaining. But through complaining about thinking I have ADHD and really struggling, because I was struggling booze, a wonderful, wonderful person called Dan hit me up and was like, look me and my company do free helping screening and like advice for people with adhd and autism so basically you do a pre-screening before you do you pay a thousand pounds or like 500 pounds to do the actual screening right so he was like i'm willing to do one a pre-screening for free like the advice is free the pre-screening isn't for it usually but he was like i list pod so I blink and then he's like I'm gonna come down and help you so him and his beautiful partner Luke come down they come to the house and help me and talk to me about ADHD and autism and like that I think I have like one of them at least and listen to my struggle and was like look like and they are both so so like so educated and ADHD and the support you can get for being ADHD and for being autistic and in businesses business can get so much support as well um so hi pokey and um and i yeah i just can't recommend them enough and so basically the project is i'm actually going to check them out they're called norosparksolutions.com if you do want to check them out i genuinely would advise neuro spicy live cams.com is their url they're called normal NeuroSparks Solutions and they focus on basically Educating You and like helping you find your Way with ADHD because it's not like a Fix like you don't need to get fixed by any Any Type of way like how your brain Is acting is the normal way of acting it's just You may have condition kind of thing and so We did the pre-screening found out that I was ADHD And so they're Going to help me go through Suck on that Suck on that woe is me yeah so have that you bastard and they're not paying us to say this they're just actually not they're just giving sue some ritalin yeah but um no but they are genuinely wonderful they've got a team of 22 people up in the north which was lovely and they like they live around where my parents are but i can't recommend them enough so norah spark solutions genuinely hit them up tell them you come from straight diva and um and you get a free hand job fuck off louise but they got 22 staff i know yeah but i think what what kind of like what really like uh i don't know what resonated with me was like how incredibly incredibly incredibly kind it was and how amazing it was that like somebody like heard me i wasn't complaining like i was in need yeah and someone heard and then offered and came and like looked after me and i'm i can't so sweet put into words how grateful i am so genuinely hit neural spark solutions up i think people just people have an immediate reaction to when you mention like self-diagnosing of anything especially adhd people are like oh because it reminds them of someone they know yeah well this this is thing that they were saying is it's like you know we all know the classic like the naughty school boy and i was always that one boy in the class that would like shout and like throw chairs and shit but it's like it's much deeper than that it's like a lot more people have it than they think and like it affects people in different ways specifically like women trans people they are both they're both gay also and they have like a lot a queer team and they work with queer people as well so I think that's genuinely to any of our listeners that are worrying not worrying but kind of like wondering whether they could be genuinely their pre-screening is such a better way to be able to find out how to get like saw quicker and also like know what you're going in to ask because sometimes you can pay for a diagnosis and if you don't know what you're talking about you've just wasted a grand whereas it's like actually with the pre-screening you can go with your pointers with your with your uh yeah like your page of points and what happens in the pre-screening so the pre-screening is like so it's like this like big like questionnaire thing and it asks you about like how you react to certain situations yeah and kind of like what you struggle with what you don't struggle with and so there's like a big like very true not not like always not at all unlikely definitely don't kind of thing yeah so it's a lot of that and then you you say what you would like support with if like you do want support and they do like regularly regular counseling and like not counseling but like meetings with their clients as well they like rep like you know influencers and stuff as well.

11:04Like, look after influencers and, like, help them with... So, like, with businesses, though, like, with Straight Diva, we could get help with ADHD stuff. They're repping people? Not repping people. They look after people, should I say. Oh, sorry. And help them... They work with the stores. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it is. But they are so wonderful and I can't recommend them enough. So they really helped me. And they're going to help Louis if she wants it. Yes, I do want a screening as well. but I didn't want to do it on the Lord's Day because obviously I'm hugely religious. Yeah. Where did you go to do it?

11:41Here. It was here. Yeah, they came around the house. Wow. Yeah, it was great. Have you checked your cupboards? They bought cakes. Joking. They bought cakes. Okay, great. Well, isn't it? What a wonderful world. I know, honestly. So thanks, guys. And also to the person that said, woe is me, love you because clearly you listened to the whole thing. But it probably was woe is me. oh and also shout out nothing for the headphones we are very lucky girls and I don't want it to float over our heads that we're becoming influencers just given things because we're really grateful yeah as long as we've got you guys to bring us down a peg or two yeah woe is me Wendy yeah elsewhere this week I want to just give older listeners of the podcast well it's not even that long ago I had some huge news which I didn't put on the list of topics this week.

12:32Oh shit, okay. Ladies and gentlemen, on Monday evening last week, Yeah. the mouse at 84 was murdered. Oh no, you did tell me this. I did tell you? Yeah. Did I say it on the podcast? No, no, no, you told me and you said that it was murdered by Angus? Yeah. Well, I just wanted to let the listeners know that it wasn't... It was a pretty harrowing process. Have you ever killed a mouse? No. I've seen it be done. Right. As I think I may have gone into many months ago when I was complaining about this mouse, glue trap is the most effective, least humane way. Yeah. Because they get stuck on glue. And then you have to stand on them.

13:20And then sometimes they fucking just tear their own skin off. Or you have to bash them. Homie didn't tear his skin off. Angus had to bash it I put it in a plastic bag We took it outside, I got everyone in I've got a crazy story about this as well And we bashed him on the head Well I didn't bash him on the head for shit So I'm not going to say who it was But one of our friends Had this happen Got a mouse on the trap It looked like a rat, it was that big Went to a thing, he didn't put it in a bag And it was a mouse And the reason it was that big is two fucking babies flung out of it when he stood on the track.

14:01No! So two babies went flinging out of it. I shit, you know, I saw the photo. And the two babies just flung out, like, just about to be born babies. And the reason, it was a mouse, but it looks like rat size because it's pregnant. So he, well, I mean, this, I'm hearing this and I'm feeling very, I'm feeling very bad for your friend, but I'm also hearing kind of lack of professionalism. Well, yeah, I should have put it in the bag. Bag that shit up. Wrap it up. wrap it up we got to all eyes go always wear protection um but it was it was an emotional night because this mouse has been terrorizing me crawling along my floors eating at my walls uh and there it was while we were watching the new Ellen Partridge oh shout out shout out squealing if you've ever blasted synth beats from your boombox or burn CDs for your besties this one's for you as people get older much like their music tastes their health needs change.

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15:46It was horrible. It was really horrible. But you know, ding dong, the witch is dead. Sorry to any vegans. Yeah But look When you're keeping me up at night But look

16:02Elsewhere in news this week Ethel Kane did five nights Yes I did At the Hammers of Apollo Yes I did And she did a podcast On the Tuesday as well With who? You did I was going to say I was like that is fucking sellout Ethel Kane We're calling you out You need to be on this pod Yeah So we can talk about the Lana beef Or we don't have to No we don't have to We can just talk about how we look the same We can talk about anything But I was in Hammersmith on Friday Seeing my friends play And it was very People camping It was very sweet Seeing all the kids She's a new old girl Yeah I think that's amazing It's crazy It's amazing Five Five nights at the Apollo Yeah I don't know how many But girls what we would like to say is Bitch, drink water.

16:53You can't be fainting like you were fainting. Yeah. Three people fainted one night, I think. Or five. Three or five. We had people on the scene. I'm sorry. If it was my show, I would not be stopping. Suffer. It does happen. Rock on. Mine would be like, no, I'm not going to say that. It does happen a lot. I was at Claro last year and it happened twice. I think you want attention. Has it happened twice? I know. This is what I want to say. And then I'm like, wow, what if they have epilepsy or something? It's fair to you. Sorry if you have epilepsy. Not if you have epilepsy. But if you just drink water.

17:23Drink water. Like, guys, go with a bottle of water. Don't crush other people. Yeah. And it's a volcano. It's not like you're moshing, is it? Yeah. I come from the school of like, we went to the Pop 2 show at Village Underground. I sweat through my clothes and my jacket to the point where everything was soaking wet. Like, soaking wet. And I was like, that was the one show that I was like, I might die. From sweat, karma, water. Or piss. Well, a bit of everything, yeah. And spit. Sophie spat in the crowd. R.I.P. Legend Icon star Yeah just drink water Don't be a dick It seems to be happening more Since The pandemic I guess Yeah I agree I think it never used to happen I think that's why I'm confused And if it did just happen It was like silent And they just get pulled over the barrier It was more embarrassing I think it's also artists stopping their show Yeah Whereas like a few artists would just be like Ooh And then like someone would get pulled out that's how it used to work if i remember rightly right yeah it's like it would faint of course but like the security just yeah i'm over whereas i think what's happening now is that artists like guys is missing in the front row fine yeah and it's like girl fuck me's thing push her over like push her over the back belt so she can get help yeah but i'm stopping myself do you know how much i cannot tell you please listen to my music but that would piss me off first time funny second time I'd be like girls yeah third time I bet it's happened a lot on well it seems to be young fans yeah guys get a grip um it's awful no I think it's I think it's potentially bad that you've said that you wouldn't stop your show but obviously I'd stop but no but I'm just pulling it would be your decision it wouldn't be your decision anyway you'd just be up there like guys sorry This would be me.

19:08Pretty boy, natural blood, stained blonde. Get him out. A holy sticker. And his eyes all over me. That's what I do. I won't stop in. No, but. Should have eaten breakfast. I think it's fine to say that ultimately just like, just fix up to the people who are fainting. Fix up, look sharp. Don't let me get real fast. So yeah that's all we have to offer On the Ethel Kane situation Congrats to Ethel Kane And if you're a fainter sorry Yeah Sorry Hey maybe you've been a fainter Yeah Right in Maybe you love it Give us the flip side But yeah I thought it was just incredible That Ethel Kane's done five nights Ethel Kane The woman that you are girl Hayden Aledonio It's mental My twin Twin Where have you been I went to the March for Palestine on Saturday, which was a great vibe.

20:08Yeah. Everyone was feeling quite tentatively celebratory. There was a good mood in the air, and I was interviewed by Navarra Media, and I don't think they're going to use any of it. Who was it from, Navarra? I felt incredibly stupid. They did shout straight diva at me. Did they? I was walking past, I saw a cameraman. And of are obsessed with us. And then, I think his name was James. I'm very sorry if it wasn't. Straight Diva. And he was working with someone called Harriet, who's like a reporter slash journalist. And they were like, oh, James, I think his name was, I listened to Straight Diva like three episodes of it on the train hungover last weekend, which was very, very sweet.

20:59and then God, I can't go over this to us, that's peak God, that's peak, babe and then he was like, you wouldn't fancy being interviewed would you? And I was like, oh God like, yeah, go on and then I just, I've never felt more stupid Bottled it, yeah Bottled it, said, Keir Starmer needs to pull his finger out What he fucking does, Keir Starmer needs to stop, mate But I think I gave like I gave maybe gave too sympathetic for a take for Navarra I was like it's such a shame when he's stuck up for the underdog all his career that he's now being such a toothless he's a toothless piece of shit but then I thought about it and I actually don't feel like I want to be on fuck Labour too I don't want to be I'm not ready for my like funny person doing serious politics moment vote green vote well no we're not doing this we're voting green Louis you're coming with us I still need more I need more info so who are you voting for then oh well there's no election right now I don't know come on come on Louise I'm voting for reform no it has to be green now I'd vote for the Labour or the Greens I just don't know I'd probably vote for the Greens not Labour now girl I just don't know enough we don't know who would be running Kia Dickface Kia Dickface Kia probably Dickface transphobic Kia and I don't know enough about Zach Plansky that's on me he's a diva and he's gay so that's all I need to know is he gay?

22:29he's gay so you gotta vote for him could get some nicer teeth you need to stop I'm sorry no I'm impressed with Zach Polanski so far I like him so am I they're already trying to like dog him out like he's trying yeah the question Jeremy's washed love Jeremy but he's washed I've been saying that no no no but like I love Jeremy Corbyn down and I wish it went better for him but that our party thing that mess that he was when they were like tweeting about each other. Mess. You fucked it for us all. Amazing guy. It's about Zach now. Amazing guy. Morals in the right place. Yeah, amazing guy. Love. Absolutely would love to meet him and say, well done and thanks for trying it.

23:06But Miss Thing, you publicly fought. You made the left look like a fucking mess. It was embarrassing. Embarrassing. Why am I so... I feel a lot about it. No, get vexed. I am. But like, come on. Both of them, him and what's-a-face, Zara, give your head a wobble, babe. Like, come on. at least just be quiet about it fight between yourselves like tell it in your memoir like fuck off the real travesty was they didn't have an Instagram page well exactly and like they wanted a different name from our party I thought that was the whole point but fair dues they failed that so we have to move on and the only possible person that could be is Zach it has to be because Miss Singh yeah Kia's a cunt yeah cunt currently right now he can rot in a bin mate he's a fucking weirdo if the election was tomorrow I think I yeah I probably would So free Palestine Vote green Free Congo I think it's fine to get angry I was talking to a friend about this I feel angry I'm getting angry as well I'm ready for a scrap It's like I get a bit embarrassed about getting angry Because I feel like I like when you get angry Or other friends get angry But like I think I struggle to get angry sometimes Because I think it's cringe Or embarrassing because it's like it's caring about something a lot I know what you mean which is pathetic but then they're taking away all of people like me's rights and they've taken away everybody's rights that aren't straight or white so I just can't side with it I can't possibly see a way in which they'd ever put any type of humour first I'd sell anyone down the river they're spineless absolute fucking freaks yeah that's a go sue yeah have you ever i'm getting sick of it i'm really getting sick of it and i feel like i'm in an echo chamber of it at the minute yeah i feel like my my tiktok is just like politics has just been told that my rights are going and everyone's rights going and fucking seeing fucking people get murdered in a genocide and it's just like what the fuck is going on it feels like it's what the fuck is going on it feels like it's either an echo chamber or it's like rage bait showing you stuff that I know is going to make you feel incredibly depressed yeah which is again kind of what the companies want because it keeps everyone in their own little lanes but I suppose sorry go on I just want to live in a world where everybody has rights equally and equitably and we don't live in that at the minute and they're trying to remove rights from people and are removing rights from people.

25:49It's not even that they're trying, it's that they are. And it was easier as a trans person like fucking five, ten years ago than it is now. How are we in a Labour government and our rights going? You fucking weirdos needed us at one point. And the protest laws as well now. Yeah, how are you getting rid of protests, you weirdos? They're just fucking Tories dressed up in red. Let's go, Sue. They are, honestly, freaks. And he's a sir. How are you a sir and head of Labour Party? are we lost? Like weirdos. I've always got a green though. What if you were offered to be the queen of the UK there? I'd, God, I was going to say some heavy shit there, babe.

26:31Anyway, speaking of, we can save that. I'd make everyone buy my new single. Stream Yeah Right. Yeah, stream our music, stream Hip To Be Done by Multiscreen and Yeah Right by Sue, I think. Speaking of big companies throwing us stuff that makes us angry.

26:51There has been, I've been feeling this week, I was having a chat with my friend Alex, who works in publishing. Yeah, music publishing. No, like book publishing. And naturally he kind of has a generally suspicious view of TikTok, social media. and in the last week obviously there's been all these Sora videos and we were having this chat about I'm kind I tend to kind of be like pro yeah AI because I generally the stuff I see is like it's comedy yeah it's funny yeah and it's creative yeah and it's also kind of let's be honest like even though i'm not making ai videos like i'm on i benefit a lot from being on social media yeah a lot of my friends aren't on social media that much so i kind of feel like i'm having to like yeah convince my friends to kind of just poison themselves the algorithm so i feel like i do generally take a bit of a kind of rose-tinted take but sue i think how are you feeling about all these ai videos flooding our feed well it's interesting that i think the only reason why people are starting to care about them is because people are being made fun of for being gay but like there's been revenge porn for women for years and i think women have been warning and talking to people about ai for years and years and years and yet no one's cared until fucking hs ticky tocky gets gay videos made about him which i love um i absolutely love that i've never seen the internet more united yeah everyone's like oh my god what about potential investors it's so funny but it's true like ai's been coming in i either think that apps need to start like noting when a video is ai and you're able to like there's got to be a way to like filter out ai if you want to filter out ai but there was an amazing take that me and bill were kind of like taken back by which is like willow came we posted it um which was the point that actually ai now you can kind of tell us a bit fake but ai in five years maybe even less than that it's going to be exactly the same so you won't be able to tell what's ai or not so then at that point when you can't tell what's ai you're not then what is truth we're all absolved from truth and then they are like predicting that a lot of people will just like go offline because what's real even everest i was i've gotten a bit of an everest mind hole like wormhole like this week just like looking at stupid people that pay to go everest yeah like do you know when people like go everest and then they complain about it oh right and then it's like well you've gone up everest you freak okay and they're usually just such stupid posh white people okay but wow if you type that in deep cuts on your algorithm yeah really strange but if you type that in everest half the videos at ai of like ai dead bodies on everest it's really strange but that's what that's what i'm saying is they're like already there are probably ai videos on your feed that you won't be able to tell at ai so if eventually it hits this point where like you genuinely won't be able to tell what's true or fake then what even is real and people will just start logging off these apps yeah so i think it's almost getting to a point where the apps must feel that they're like on this like weird precipice of like ai was that a really good thing and now it's almost like backfiring because people will log off if nothing on my feed is real i just log off do you know what i mean like at least struggling to imagine that situation and then also simultaneously thinking are we that far away from it right now like even with like news for example like yeah i guess you can still trust a lot of news but like i i'm so suspicious of everything i consume yeah for sure but i think but there's still a separation between right now between what is ai videos and i think the interesting thing is it's like as soon there won't be and i think i sometimes give it the benefit of the doubt because like i it's a funny meme and i don't really think and i sometimes feel like i inadvertently become like a simp for big tech companies but there's gonna have to be a way to highlight it i think it's gonna be a quite dire situation until they do i genuinely just think it's gonna be like a thing of like if you upload something to tiktok and don't say it's like you know like they did with ads where you have to be like hashtag ad or hashtag gifted i think it's gonna be like a similar thing where if you don't, then I'll just delete it and you have to say something to the AI because you won't know the difference between truth or not.

31:17You won't. We won't know if HS Tiki Tiki's really in Dubai slaying. Yeah. Slaying, sending it, and getting raw dogged. Yeah. In a cell. God bless. Hate that much. Do you think he's... Do you think he is, like, allowing this to happen? Do you think he... There's a part where I'm like... Do you think he's doing it? Because he's live streaming it, doing it for clicks yeah yeah and i think he's running out of clicks because like he's kind of like after a while of just being homophobic transphobic and a cunt yeah people are just gonna like disengage because like it's not like jenna andrew tate is almost making like an army of like nazis like just an army of freaks and he's kind of doing this like weird recruiting thing of telling men what men should be hey just ticky-tocky's just sat there being like a weirdo who just doesn't like anybody.

32:08So I'm like, he's not even a good evil genius. Do you know what I mean? I think he's trying to do the Andrew Tate thing. But I don't think he's smart enough. And so I think people were clearly like, because him live streaming his own reactions to the AI videos, I'm like, well, you're only giving it more attention. If it was me and I was getting fake AI videos made of me, I'd just ignore it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so he's probably doing it for streams and likes, really. Well, I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of likes. You're probably uploading themselves How are you going to radicalise thinkers?

32:40Radicalise If like I mean we're pretty left I mean I wouldn't say we're radicalised I would not like to use that word About anything in my life I'd quite like to tour America actually We are not radicalised at all God nobody can bloody tour America right now I know I'd love to tour America Just letting everyone know That if anyone does want me to support them on tour Like big artists I know Like a week before their tour Or like, my visa... I can't afford it. I'm going to lose tens of thousands. My visa's got rejected. I don't know. Do you know anyone personally that's happened to? I wonder if it's just completely...

33:15There was a video by a guy I went to uni with. And he's big on TikTok. And he wrote that touring America will make him lose£40 ,000. Fucking hell. Yeah, because he wants to pay everyone a proper wage and stuff. I often think that being an emerging artist in the UK is a lot better. in the US just for live. Yeah, like if you're an American citizen. Especially touring America. Well, I think that's the thing, and being an emerging artist in America, you're like zero, and then you're at like 100 ,000 followers quick. Yeah. Whereas I think in the UK, you're like pondering about 20, and then you're pondering about 40.

33:49Do you know what I mean? So there's artists now that are like three albums deep, and they have like 30 ,000 followers. No shade. But it's just like, I think that's like the UK music scene, whereas in America, I think if they did three albums, they'd have hundreds and hundreds of thousands. I think there's such a bigger reach. Yeah, like a mid-artist, like an emerging alternative artist in New York. Like Perfume Genius. I know Perfume Genius is huge. Fuckers. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They immediately enter into such a massive pool. A huge space, yeah. And then immediately go to, like, huge record labels.

34:20Whereas I think for British artists, they need to do one album for the UK and then do Olivia Dina and then sign to Capitol. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because ultimately the biggest, like, let's take New Music Friday UK. Yeah. Is a mix of British artists and American artists mainly. Whereas the US audience aren't really listening outside as much. I mean, Somba. But everyone. Emerging artists and now he's humongous. Where the fuck has he come from? Who the fuck is Somba? No shade again. Like, it's just like, now he's everywhere all the time. Yeah. and with millions and millions and millions of streams yeah but have you listened to no he's good I'm not like knocking him either guys I hold my hands up he's good still love that meme though of him and Youngblood sat next to each other and it's like pee pee and boo boo

35:17but yeah like I think it's easier to be an emerging artist in America for sure okay elsewhere in pop culture news this week, Sue, I think. I want to pull up a video that I'm yet to watch and I've deliberately withheld it from my viewing experience because well, you might have seen it. Oh my god. What? D 'Angelo died. D 'Angelo's dead. No. What the fuck? Aww. Oh my god. RIP D 'Angelo, babe. I love D 'Angelo. He's 51. That's so young. Fuck me. One of my fave albums ever. Voodoo. Oh, sorry, babe. No, it's okay. I don't know. What video are you showing me? Rest in peace, T 'Angelo. Rest in peace. Pancreatic cancer.

36:12Oh, I know exactly what you're pulling up. I think this is a real cheap ploy to just get young people on her side. I'm just endlessly intrigued, as I feel like other people are.

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38:23Why are so many people obsessed with her? We initially spoke about her She, I think this is the thing that's kind of like Obviously, just to clarify before that She, obviously, like her story is amazing Amazing, she's fucking Malala She's an icon But why do like there's this new meaning she's taken on of kind of like being like fucking a gen z diva right i think there's something like that breaks my heart a little bit where i think there are certain people in the young people i think malala is classed as a young person in my opinion where like malala greta people that are like have changed the world change laws defied literal like gravity rules amazing all fine they're like these characters in which don't need PR it's fucking Malala it's Malala for fuck's sake but now to sell her new book there's an image here saying of her saying how a bong changed my life I really think this is like real cheap PR guys and like is this where the world is oh there's an article with the Guardian how smoking a bong brought back the trauma of being shot by the Taliban An exclusive extract from Malala's memoir.