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33:35Before starting EBCLIS, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. ask your doctor about ebglis and visit ebglis.lily.com or call 1-800-LILY-RX or 1-800-545-5979 yeah i have some i have some sex right all of this combined and not really having any more anxieties in my life because i'm just in like heaven and i haven't really started work for this year yet so i've kind of like run out of life anxieties kind of thing um i think my body then subsequently started feeling anxious through pain in my balls so then for four days i convinced i had ball cancer and it still kind of hurts stopped hurting yesterday and then today it's even better than the last but like for like five days i was i flew back to london i did a session i did a shoot and then flew back here hardly any sleep having nightmares every night thinking i've got ball cancer thinking i'm gonna die being like oh my god i can't leave bill right now i love him so much oh my god I'm going to die um yeah so I've not been that well but I don't actually think it's ball cancer now lads I will obviously get my balls checked when I come back from Sky and I actually advise any T-girls out there and men who feel like they've got anything wrong with their bodies to go get checked and women obviously yeah I'd like to feel your boobs and then do the boob feeling and the worst thing is I've got something I've got a ball to worry about now and probably tits to worry about but how gender affirming that would be to get like breast cancer Have you seen that tweet that's like I would get a room transplant just to get an abortion Fierce Wake up What because getting abortion is funny is it No getting abortion should be free And available to all It's safe Thank you I'd like to come to your defence and say that you weren't like You were almost implying that you didn't do anything about it You were furiously Researching and talking about it So if it was anything serious, within six hours my ball would have fell off.

35:33And you were going on about it a lot. Loads, yeah. And then I went to Louis' gig, which we will get on to in a second, but it was absolutely outstanding. Yeah. And I came home so drunk and I was watching the end of series 3 of Gamers Thrones. And that's when everyone gets fucking killed. And I was literally in bed and I felt mental. Anyway, back to Louis' gig. It was genuinely phenomenal. Louis played the first? The first. The first debut multi-screen gig. It was genuinely wondrous. So much better live. Like, not that the music's bad on tape, but live is so gorgeous. Thank you. With the added strings and live synth, I guess.

36:15Yes. But you put Terry on the synth. Come on. So amazing. It was really, really amazing. Terry learned to play synth this week. I was incredibly moved. We're doing a Pixies type thing. So fierce. And then the last song was so beautiful. You finished with kind of like a slow song about love, and it was so gorgeous. like seriously was so deeply moved well I'm really thankful you came and enjoyed it and gave such a wonderful little description of it there how did you feel it went? I loved it I like I wasn't as nervous as I thought I was going to be I kind of just went through it I guess I have like even though this was like the first live performance of my band or project or whatever it is.

37:01I have done a lot of performance in my life of some kind. And like I have been in front of crowds. So I wasn't, but I thought I was going to have like shaky fingers upon the guitar. No, you didn't. So I enjoyed it. Like I think I could have been a bit more front man-y. But like I wanted. You made everyone laugh. I wanted it to be quite minimal and just set myself like a pretty, like, yeah, mysterious look at the back of the room front man vibe. I did start the first song like holding my scarf, which I then swiftly stopped doing. And my friends were like, that was good that you stopped doing that.

37:43But no, I felt comfortable on stage. I felt like I was committing to the bit. I felt like I sang well. um the the only thing was like as i told you already and that i didn't even realize despite me going to shit loads of gigs and working in the music industry is that like you don't really know what the audience are hearing yeah like because everyone on stage has their own monitor which is a speaker that faces them and everyone's monitor is different because like you if you're singing you're probably going to want to hear your own voice because you want to make sure you're singing will but like yeah like i couldn't hear terry or maxim if i couldn't hear violin or strings i could hear will really loud on guitar but apparently his vocal wasn't loud so it's like you just don't really know what you're hearing so there's a lot of faith especially when you're an early stage um that you just like have to kind of you can only really worry about your performance to a certain extent you can tell the sound tech to go like okay i need more vocal but you don't know what the crowd are hearing yeah uh so yeah i mean our manager will uh we need a manager basically to uh get in the crowd but it was really great i think we kind of aced it um and i can't wait to do more i think like coming from electronic music background it wasn't really a thing to like i've dj'd a lot but it's just like not really a thing or it's not as much of a thing to do live so much more fun so much more engaging so much more accessible for an audience so much less reliant on drugs and partying um and i loved doing a slow acoustic song at the end about um demonstrations of love by my beautiful friends so i just like to do more and I think you know in the increasingly social media I know you post stories about how to go viral and we all want to go viral but like I mean I'm increasingly thinking more that like and I don't know if it's stupid that it is just about how much work you put in and like even with like the critics choice thing I'm just like for too long I've been thinking like okay I need to like I need to be good on social media or I need to be you know like need to have good connections yeah and don't get me wrong those are fucking massively important but also like to be honest i just need to work harder like i just need to make more music and i need to do more gigs and then and i need to be better at performing live and then it'll come but i'm so pumped for that process and yeah it was on my new year's resolutions last year to do a gig so when i was offered one on January 4th or whatever.

40:30I was like, you best believe I'm doing this gig. Yeah. And it just, yeah, it's just, you know, part of the wonderful January energy, you know. I mean, like, say I've been mental, I do think that this Jan is bringing, like, I think I'm getting a load of angel numbers at the minute. I actually think this year is going to be extremely turned up. You've already made two bangers in the first four days of January. Two bangers, shot a campaign and confirmed work for Feb. We're fine. And also, like. You're calm. you're you're recharging batteries in ways that you probably haven't even felt the benefits of i need to rest because i'm up here but you can be up you can be somewhere like this and do a bit of work keep it ticking but you're also just like you're just cleansing you know yeah um but no january has been i i feel like the last quarter of last year the quarter Last quarter of last year was just like me Just surviving a bit, drinking too much Being a bit of a slob And I'm so fucking relieved That I've got my mojo back Yeah I've been spending less time on the apps Although I have redownloaded Field on the Isle of Skye Because I'm keen to see What absolute baddies are here Yeah I told you off air that I've got a subscription To The New York Times which has not filled my soul like I thought it would.

41:56I basically got it because I don't want to look at Instagram TikTok first thing in the morning because I think it... Ruins your brain. Ruins my brain, rewards me too quickly so that I just don't have the energy or patience to do anything. And I thought, you know, let's read some award-winning journalism even though the New York Times has its own controversies or whatever. It was two quid a month and it has a good culture thing. Gorgeous. But I wake up on January 4th And it's like Trump says he is only limited By his own moral code We're fucked Russia has nuclear missiles Pointed at Ukraine 2 ,000 people have died In the last 12 hours in Iran I was like, I don't know if this is better For my brain I only do think the best thing to do Is turn off and just read a book But that's not engaging Babe I would fall asleep If I If I But then that's the issue Why isn't that engaging Because I'm such a I think we're different In the morning In that you Wake up and you're immediately like Yeah I wake up and I can I can just fall back to sleep Forever and ever And ever and ever You know what woke me up This morning though What The sound of Bill's voice Yeah I know Bill was He was banging about He said He was making us a coffee This morning and he was being very serious this morning, but he got up to make us coffee.

43:19And I actually did think Bill Louie's literally upstairs. He was bang, bang, clang. I've been surprised by how I haven't heard more of you guys from my room. Isn't it? You said you were expecting us to be fucking. Well, not just that. Well, I've got a ball cancer, Louie. It's not funny. Not just that. I expect, you know, especially you, you're quite loud. Yeah, I'm quite loud. So I thought... No, we like go to bed. We're good like that. Yeah, we are like children. When we're in bed, we just go to bed. Have you ever fucked on a beach? No, we've fucked outside multiple times. What, you and Bill?

43:56Yeah. Victoria Park? No, not like anywhere in London. We go out, don't we? We've got like cabins and stuff. Not like dogging. Is that the reason you go away so much? Go to Hastings just so you can fuck outside? No, but it's like you're outside and you're feeling it. You're feeling it? Yeah, feeling it. How much battery have you got left? what on oh you mean like social yeah oh I was like oh loads um I can do some agony arts if you like we're on 41 minutes okay yeah should we do some agony arts also guys I just want to say um with January I do know that we sort of like the guest steps and such and so forth and like now it's kind of not we're trying to do as much as possible over December Jan Feb but they might be like weekly still until everything gets back to normal because the start of this year has been a bit like, I'm up here, Louis is now up here, which is great.

44:53So we're trying to utilise our time and do the most that we possibly can. But yeah, we're just trying to like figure that out. So I just wanted to tell everyone. For sure. We're still aiming to do one a week. I've actually got two things on my list that we should probably talk about. Yeah. Well, one of them was your suggestion. Go. Which is that thanks to molly may we've been inspired to launch our own shoe yeah um and molly's obviously cornered the iced oat and matcha market yeah um for like the normal girl and the cool girl so we're gonna do uh lucas aid energy prada cups yeah um and we're gonna launch this in partnership with uh disarono and monster energy yeah i know what you're thinking you're thinking lucas aid a monster that doesn't Yeah, it doesn't work.

45:43But such is the power of Straight Diva, cross audiences, bringing people together, that we've got the first Monster and Lucas Aid Club. Club, yeah. So I just want to say, like, we've been thinking about colorways and obviously we think, like, you know, instead of doing the cool girl and, like, the regular girl, I think we want to focus on, like, you know, the alt girl. Yeah. And, like, alt to us is, like, the color orange. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cushion wisdom on Tumblr. Yeah, or, like, bright green. Yeah, long stripy socks. Long stripy socks. The micro-est of bangs. Yeah, a possible eating disorder.

46:19A septum piercing on your pussy. Yeah, we've all been there. I was on Tumblr. Mine was jellybeansandblowjobs.tumblr.com. Like, what was that? For real. People are like, what was your Tumblr? I'm like, well, it was this. And I would just repost porn and eating disorder. Effie? Yeah, she was fine. I was more Cassie. Really? she looked more like you no moreover she was just like a bit more broken and had an eating disorder she was truly broken I mean it's funny how Lana Del Rey type deez people worry about kids on TikTok our age on Tumblr was mental it was just porn we were just like reposing I remember the eating disorder stuff was crazy it was just like the fairy just dropping down and the caption just like cocaine and it's Tinkerbell just like this and I was like yeah cocaine yeah me aged 12 not doing cocaine me around christy i can say i shout out christy just like yeah reposting that shit just read her account christy i remember yours yours was porn mine was porn but yours was porn i can see it now it's all black and white hers was and it was all just porn i think mine was just louis ravens.tumblr.com there was a girl in my year who had a tumblr called toned tan tennis nice which was quite sad

47:38but yeah anything to add on the Molly May situation have we watched have you watched any of the show she is getting like people are coming with her now because I think she's kind of been like this untouchable kind of like royalty in the UK but I think people are now being like like what do you do after the Mocha Chocochino show and the Machilarte show I think everyone is like a bit like what like what are we doing but again similar to the Brooklyn Beckham thing it's like so she's not hurting anyone like take the have a joke about Molly May about you know the fact that she's designing shoes and it's like is she really doing anything does she does she think she's cooking here when she was creative director at Pretty Little Thing or CEO what was she she was like one of the yeah but it's like that's the biz now it's like you have two creative directors and one's an influencer and one's a one's the actual one's the actual creative director and that's fine let's take the piss out of it let's not comment on their profile that they probably read like you're a fucking idiot why don't you go back to Tommy Fury you fucking blonde bin I definitely didn't comment that myself on a burner or commenting to Brooklyn Beckham like your parents love you go back to your parents newsflash honey they don't no we just don't know so just have a laugh but don't be a horrible cump yeah good for Molly the only other thing I wanted to ask you about Sue Which I think is the most time urgent There's plenty of shit on my list But we can save it for another time can't we Lump people I was like what are you doing Sorry that was inappropriate Do you have any opinion On the Tax rate of pubs going up I have no idea what that is Pubs are being taxed More and more every year And I wanted to know do you care Well I do care because I go to the pub a lot and I'm not saying where I go because it's getting so busy in there and it's not like, I don't know.

49:35I just think I don't want to tell people to go to the pub that I go to. All right, there you go. There you have it. So I do care, but like on my own private accord. I'm quite a private person these days. Yeah, and you don't want to see your favourite pub, do you? Yeah. What do you think makes a great pub? This episode is brought to you by State Farm. You know those friends who support your preference for podcasts over music on road trips? That's the energy State Farm brings to insurance. With over 19 ,000 local agents, they help you find the coverage that fits your needs. So you can spend less time worrying about insurance and more time enjoying the ride.

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50:44Visit the upsstore.com slash air shipping for full details. Terms and conditions apply. I think there's staff. I think there's staff being slightly rude until they get to know you and then they really like you. But they're still really rude when you bring someone else in. love um but also fierce yeah i like um the smoking area with heat lamps yeah i like a smoking area i like is the interior or the exterior of the interior of the beer garden beer garden is more the thing for me even even though you're not smoking yeah because everyone just has is outside yeah that's why you need heat let's talk about that our generation likes to be outside because it's hot like it feels more intimate yeah you're on a date then yeah and even on a date you don't want to be inside yeah and at least not for the first drink true but it's also like it is freezing not miss dating and it is way nicer inside yeah you don't miss dating no i'm so glad that i'm like wifed up forever i'm so good at dating i hate it so much it's not that i hated it it's just like Oh, imagine having to go meet a stranger at a pub.

51:46Like, oh. It's so fun. It's the same with even, like, going to meet management or speaking to, like, managers. Like, oh, imagine trying to, like, suss someone out. Like, I'm so sick. No, you're just getting to know someone. It's like, the reason I like it is because you are just meeting someone you probably otherwise wouldn't meet. And then, you know, you learn some shit. Yeah, not for me. Not for you. I mean, I started dating Bill when I already knew him, so. And also, like, quite often, I hope I'm not you know the common thread here but you do you do get a little bit deep with someone after you know oh yeah three drinks well yeah because I think also I think the older you get you're like okay so this is a tea I was abused in my first relationship my second relationship was a drug addict I just want to make sure that we're not doing that again how often do you do drugs and if you do drugs how like how like good are you with that even the night how late do you stay on the night out that's genuinely would be me yeah let's get it out and I'll be like what are you looking for why are you doing the things that you're doing but I think sometimes like with certain people it can be quite shallow because you know you just don't connect at all but most of the time like people are but I think when you're friendly like you can't connect with anyone I used to date this guy and he was at a doctor at Oxford and he genuinely genuinely it was actually painful but I just kept going because it was something to do and I remember just sitting there one time in one evening you're saying or like across multiple dates no I went on three dates for them and I remember on the third day I took him back to my house and I took him back home to James and I sat there with James and him and we were watching some like YouTube video and I think James was like now what the fuck is going on here and so I ended it the next day because I was like what am I doing I'm just passing time and that's I suppose what I was doing and he was genuinely stumped because he thought it was going really well and it was so boring that is so funny but I was like obviously you think it's going well because you've got like a fit hot tranny in front of you like being funny and asking you loads of questions because you don't ask any back.

53:41He was very sweet and I do wish him to be happy but we never even had sex and that's okay. I've almost gamified it as well whereas if it's a boring date and they're just terrible at making conversation, I'm like, well, I'm probably stuck here for like two drinks or three drinks. Let's see how well I can ask questions and now I'm like, and now I'm in interviewer mode. I've never really had a bad date. I think I've had, there are times where I think about something and I'll be like, why did I like that? Like I used to fuck this MMA fighter, right? and one time he came round my house I took my top off and then he came in his pants and left and I just remember thinking like he left and I was like at first I was like that's kind of fierce like my tits are bossing but then after a while I was like I douche for that I'm poolless for that, like that's stupid man give me something like genuinely give me something no wonder you hate men yeah I do struggle with men I would never and he still messages me I'd at least make you a cup of tea minimum hand job what the thing is is it's like okay so he came in his pants let's just wait half an hour and go again yeah nada he was out of the house he was back well MMIA fighter he was lovely though aww but probably quite closeted oh babe probably not the best conversationalist no and then he'd just like to and then like we went to spoke for three months and then he'll just pop back he honestly aww bless him wherever he is leaves with his mum and then there was this one time I can actually show the image he bailed on me on a Friday night saying but he was like no but literally like my nan is ill in hospital and he sent me a photo of his dying nan in my house but on like not like disappearing messages first let me hop out the motherfucking Porsche I ain't want it yeah so it was just dying nan in a bed and I just thought what would your nan say that you just sent a photo of her dying to a transvestite you go over and come in your pants whilst looking at her breasts she seems lovely

55:41she seems so lovely think about that think about that do you want to earn agony on yeah I famously never had any friendship drama before but we've recently oh no I think we did this one yesterday yeah we did that one yesterday we did sorry should I put side as my position on Grindr or should I lie and claim I'm a top side should I do both no no no no switch is both yeah aside

56:11aside is someone that just sucks not fucks sucks and wanks as in they what giving and receiving or just yeah yeah they'll give and receive and do foreplay but not like penetrative sex I believe that's aside just because they don't like it or STDs or well they're saying that they think they should well they just don't like it if you're aside you're aside but they're saying that they're gonna say that they're a top to lie just to get people well but babe but then when when there'll be someone that's like fuck me then fuck me and you don't want to then that'll just be a good tool for everyone i don't know if you wanna i would not go on a date with someone because they said that they were a side like i'm not that desperate for a dickhead like this is is this grinder this is just why grinder just is like what yeah like i think field's scary in that sense sometimes but it isn't really like if grinder was for straight people there would be so many dead straight women yeah how awful is that it's crazy it's true that's the only reason it doesn't exist The only reason it doesn't exist is because the death rate would just go up.

57:07Men are disgusting. Does Grindr have a lot of bad stories? Yeah, there's a BBC documentary called The Grindr Killer. Right. But it's less so. Okay. Because I think men can, I guess, fight men. Men can defend themselves from men. But then men are also the problem. Yeah. So I guess if you put 100 problems in a room. Maybe we start an expose No let's not I would Look you're probably asking this question Because you're not getting enough numbies From saying you're aside And you've diagnosed the problem as I'm aside The problem may be that you're clapped So think about that No He does look very sweet In all seriousness Oh he looks so cute Oh babe I would get a blowjob from you In a heartbeat Um I I don't know my only counter is that like I think I could joke my way out of going like Oh yeah I know I said I'm a talk about like Yeah I mean you could just You could joke your way out of it And then like just back yourself to charm Said person by the time Why do you have to say either Yeah just don't say anything Just don't say anything I'm up for some fun And you're like I didn't tell you that A fun was a handy Yeah Why are you making a problem For yourself I don't know how Grindr works though Like You don't have to say You're anything Surely But or is it Or is it like I used to put my age Are we fucking Or are we not fucking Yeah I used to go on it And I'd get like CD destroyer messaging me Like such pretty baby You are Do you want to me And I'm like no thank you I met the love of my life Funniest person ever It's mutual but he won't leave his toxic partner.

58:58Help. Sorry, say that again. I met the love of my life. He's the funniest person ever but they won't leave their toxic partner. Okay. Good. Babe, I think you have to start barking up that tree. Just leave it and then if they do that, then they do that. If not, it might not be a heel, by the way. If they do that, then they will. if they're not then like sometimes you can't do it about that yeah i think we're in i think a letter would be good a letter and then and then disembark the aircraft my whole thing is you can't you can lead a person to water but you'll never make them drink missing might be saying it's toxic but going home and having like you can lead a horse to water but you can't fist it without it kicking you in the face well yeah basically you can't make it leave its other it's sort of a partner it's yeah because they're not the same pronoun um so wouldn't you say there I'd just leave it there like I'd I'd no no yeah there no no no but hang on in a in a situation where we don't know someone's pronouns yeah you'd say it no there okay what did I say you just said it that's fine is anyone offended no I'm just I'm just babe I'm just learning That's one of the points Of the podcast Sue can't explain The fucking point Of the podcast We met Craig Listen to the Bill Milner episode You'll find out who Craig is He I'm not gonna say anything He's amazing Craig asks What's the podcast about?

1:00:37Sue just I just don't know Like it's just like Us just like being idiots I don't know Is it not girls? Is it not? Read the podcast bio It's about Yeah it's like It says like Two silly billies It's about brain It's about brain rot, pop culture, us being musicians, and it's slightly about me learning about queer lifestyle, you learning about straight lifestyle. Okay, so you say they, if I said it, I'm sorry. And I'm sorry for you for getting ratty to you. No, I love it when you get ratty. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Send a letter, then leave it. Then leave it. I'm getting SRS in like a month but my partner doesn't want me to and is upset how to deal what's SRS getting a fanny or a dick changing sex replacement surgery sex not replacement no not replacement reassignment reassignment surgery and their partner doesn't want them to fuck your partner um because you've got to do what makes you happy well we were talking about this last night but if I said to Bill I want a tun tun he'll be like okay but like but yeah there is also there is obviously also conversations to be had like and also if your partner don't want to like this is the thing right I think you can't blame somebody I'd honestly obviously you can be upset and stuff it's not that you can't blame someone and you hope that someone can it's your fault no no no but like unfortunately you have to make yourself happy and if someone isn't ultimately following you through to like all your decisions and they're not the right person for you you've got to feel at home in your body and why would you want someone in your home who's got a face on and angry that your home is the way that it is if i build a garden at the front of my house and my partner says i hate your garden fuck you like you're not allowed in my house if you don't like my garden man you reckon if you got srs bill would just be like yeah give me that pom pom yeah he's bisexual but I don't I'm not going to personally but we spoke about it he'd be happy if I did anything he'd be happy if I came home with double F he'd be like okay I think we love each other like down if he came home and was like I'm Billy with an ex and with a bust down wig on I'd be like alright got a girlfriend now why is it purely because I'm guessing it's not purely because of money that more trans is it and we were talking about trans women yeah but is it also So trans men, like you were saying that you reckon like less than 20%.

1:03:17No, I said, I think right now from the people I know that have got SRS, I'd say 70, 30, like haven't. And is that purely a money thing or is it just... Yeah, money thing, situational thing. Also like transition thing. Also like it's a big thing to think about. It's a big surgery. I think that's kind of like what's kind of like sold wrongly to us, especially when we're younger is like the transsexuals exist but and they've all got fannies and all got there and then it's like a comfortable it's a comfortable question to ask them like have you got the snip or have you had the surgery it's like yeah fuck you that's like not it's not what it's really yeah it's not like it's actually the last thing i thought about i honestly never think about it like i never think about it like i only think about it when someone says i'm getting it done and i'm like oh really and then i'd be like do i want it nah like worrying about bowl cats too much also for me it just goes to I mean we've gone through the surgery thing I don't want any type of surgery anyway I want to get old and like my body's the body that I've got and I've taken hormones so I've got a little yeah take that take that Emma Stone but like I don't want I don't want to I just want to look old and whatever I want to look the age that I fucking am but also with that I hate surgery as it is not like any surgery like if I broke my foot I'd fucking hate going under like it scares shit off me and I just oh right and like there's a 50 % chance you lose feeling and I love to fuck I'm sorry I love to fuck does it work surely they can't give you a clit yeah they can give you a clit and it works yeah because it's your dick is just a long clit right because it's a nerve what about what about the other way so you shave it down what if you're giving me a dick then that's different so that's different which I actually don't know enough about so actually I'm not going to talk about this that's mental it's mental that they can do that but they take skin from here or here and they make a penis with it.

1:05:09It's amazing. You can feel sensation in your band. I'm unsure. I don't want to make comment on that for all that. Should we get an expert? I don't think that would be very nice. Not that I don't think that's great, but I think to just quiz someone with a penis who had a sore ass is... No, no, no. I meant a doctor who did the surgery. I don't know. Is that necessary? I don't know whether that's our... No, no, no. I couldn't. just for me personally I'd be interested in it because I have no idea about it what do you think getting surgery is anti-feminist no what anti-feminist no no no no no well no I don't think it's anti-feminist I think everyone has their views on like what beauty standards are and like what societal standards are and everyone has their stance on you know it's the same thing as like religion like some person like i'm a christian but i think gay people roll and then you'll have another person that's like i'm a christian but i fucking hate gay people people have autonomy to pick and choose their own rules just as much they have autonomy to pick and choose their own rules about their body i think specifically with trans community there's like a big debate especially with like older trans women they're like they didn't have the i was born into a time where uh transness was kind of like on the up so i came up in a time where like it was very fashion androgynous kind of thing when no one questioned me i was having a huge amount of privilege being a white person too um that i was able to be like oh i'm happy the way that i am um and i think there's so many factors that like build into the fact that i was able to conclude that i was okay the way i am and everyone else was okay with the way i was because i think i'm uh i think i have privileges i grew up in like a i think i grew up in work class area but I'm middle class.

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1:08:16Terms apply. Really? Is that classist? no I'd just say it's a more common amongst workers I would guess so I don't have data to back it up but everyone has different views of surgery is what I'm saying just as much as everyone women have different versions of like feminism etc etc and you've answered it very beautifully it's just because I saw a sub stack I read a sub stack a fucking sub stack that it's not it's not saying well it's saying it's anti-feminist but it's more the point that it's like have we got two we went too far one way yeah it always happens that like and i guess you could put a zempick in it as well so we've we've gone too far with like being pro positive complacent like no no like anyone should get anything done to them the way they want that it's like actually hang on well there's that feminist debate as well that's like i remember talking to my friend amara about it where like you know men now pay into only fans which is then like paying for sex workers so then oh how am i saying this kind of like it almost like it's like an anti-positive like men will be like no no no i'm respecting her doing this on the third and then like paying for somebody and then feeling that they control them and then it's also another word um anti-feminist kind of like using like sex positivity in a way that works for them or like you see now with like multiple men using like uh being like uh or dhd uh as an excuse or like using like you know sex positivity is an excuse to uh be freak be freaks yeah and be uh and be abusive yeah where it's kind of like no i respect sex workers and i do this and a third and but then they go to the sex parties and kind of like inappropriately touching someone when they're in a queer space because they say they're queer but they're still kind of a man so it's kind of like you know there's so many levels there's so many levels to everything and not everything is so I feel like that is like a similar debate to like surgeries and like you know what is feminist and anti-feminist like I feel like if you really want to look at it very harshly feminist I feel like a lot of things are wrong but then that's the same as looking at like Christianity and being like you know you're not going to stop your nan from being like If your nan has no problem with anybody, you're not going to be like, to your nan, well, technically, you can't really be Christian because then that would mean you're anti-gay.

1:10:42Yeah. I think it all comes back to don't hate the play, I hate the game. Yeah. Well, just be fucking nice, people. That's what my thing is. The reason this person wrote the article wasn't Emma Stone's facelift, but I guess everyone's saying, like, oh, my God, her facelift looks so great. I mean, she does look amazing. She does look amazing. I have seen that face a few times. Yeah. But anyway, it's her choice. and she shouldn't be though I agree that it's like when are we going to go like hang on maybe the answer isn't in kind of keeping us like eternally young and skinny and like actually aging is a beautiful thing and we shouldn't deny that but also Emma Stone shouldn't be not that this person who wrote the article was doing it but the person who's doing it shouldn't be whole as like a role model to anyone it's more like their system which I know is like an annoying boring answer to place like okay so who do we blame like what do we do but i don't think any person who should get work done will get to zempick especially if they're a celebrity because they're in the fucking public eye so much like why should we hold them to a higher standard anybody to any standard i think that is but i think that's the thing isn't it i think with these anti-aging things you don't end up looking young you look old with work done you look yeah or you might look young and then like but then but your face isn't meant to do that like five ten years time in my opinion worse yeah i think the surgery look doesn't make people look young i think that has been i think that's the biggest in my opinion the biggest cosmetic lie that whole like botoxing i'm like your face isn't moving to me that's not fierce like in my opinion that is not fierce like i think it's like okay great you've got no creases on your face but babe you can't frown when you're annoyed at someone like if i was arguing with you i'd probably just laugh because i can't tell what you're trying to convey well it's the same with actresses or actors or whoever the fuck like they'll be in a scene and then you're like you can't even tell whether she's sad she can't even frow her brow up like girl but that's just me like again that's how i kind of see see like not beauty that's just how i see like being a person like also for me it's a health thing i don't want to put botox in my face because like i'm like what the fuck is that yeah like that's just giving myself more ball cancer yeah do you know what i mean we don't want that we don't want that it's the same with philip same with anything i don't want like personally it's a personal preference this is i'm not saying it's like inspire anyone or anything I don't want to do that because I just don't want that shit in my body I want to put sugar on my body instead and give myself cancer that way Like that's my choice Like your choice might be getting pumped Yeah I don't want to get a boob job because I have to get a read on every 10 years I don't want to pay for something every 10 years To uplift it like a beauty standard Fuck you Although Lily Allen's is fantastic I do, yeah People are getting nice boob jobs That's one of the best boob jobs I've ever seen Sorry to digress so much from the question The question was my partner doesn't like the idea of me getting srs sorry right um yeah i think you have to do what you make happy and whatever happens from that fallout you'll just deal with because you're amazing and beautiful and you can you can afford some sympathy that you know this this decision will affect your partner but ultimately it's your decision um you have to do what makes you happy that's the basic yeah or you'll be sick you can't live your life for anybody else and then you figure that one out and go with it.

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