rosalia, punch, zane lowe

7:31Zane Lowe:we put the Z in Z

7:33Rosalía:when we're in that grey area where we're obviously like numerically statistically not that famous we have 10 ,000 followers on Instagram on the podcast but if we go to certain places it's like Jay and Beyonce it's like fucking in the hood I'm like Princess Diana

7:54Zane Lowe:yeah wake it up but no what we we listen to you and we really appreciate you're listening and so people keep asking for more so we can at this point in time give you more

8:06Rosalía:and we haven't done that before because i guess we have other stuff going on but it's like at the point now with the podcast where it's like let's fucking like we we know that we can do this for our career if we really try right and i'd say we're like at 50 percent yeah so better put our

8:28Zane Lowe:pussy into Andrew.

8:29Rosalía:But also we don't want to, you know, we don't want to burn out. But yeah, I don't feel more burnt out. I think it will be like, I think it will be fun because it'll be a completely separate dynamic.

8:38Zane Lowe:But we already know who we've got coming on the pod for the next few weeks. And you're going to be gooped and gagged, I think. It's going to be great. Very, very excited.

8:46Rosalía:Okay.

8:47Zane Lowe:Okay.

8:48Rosalía:That was a really fun introduction. I'm going to start from a usual question, Sue, I think. Yeah. Which is, how are you doing? I'm well, thank you, Louis.

8:57Zane Lowe:No, I'm really good. sold out a headline show in five minutes. Bow! Bow! Bow, bow, bow, bow. Bill's not here so we're being extra loud today. Yeah, we're being so loud. We're being loud. We're such rebel, rebel girls. We're such rebel girls. Oh my God. We're rebel hearts.

9:14Rosalía:SD Kid on Wednesday. I was at the SD Kid show. Incredible. Lost a little bit of aura points maybe when he's like, his mixtape's called Rebel. He's just shouting on stage. He's got a sword in his hand. He's gone, this is the rebellion this is the rebellion join me for the rebellion suddenly turned to like a far right thing

9:36Zane Lowe:sorry you've sold out a show in how many minutes five probably less than five minutes it was it was crazy I refreshed the page and then they were gone and then I couldn't believe it they were gone so then I text my manager she was at the gym and then she was like oh no they're gone yeah so thank you for everyone who's got a ticket coming to you on the 1st of December

9:55Rosalía:the thinkers have been acting

9:56Zane Lowe:They've been acting. They've been active. Active A9. I don't know what it means. Producer tag? Maybe. But it was a blessing. Yeah, I can't believe that people want to come see the show. We just absolutely. Maybe people do care about our music. Yeah, crazy. So I'm really grateful. Listen to the new music. There's a new single coming out as well. There's a whole project coming out, babe. Has that got a release date? The project. The single. The single. The single's coming the day after the gig. So you're getting like the first showing of the single. It's going to be a moment. It's going to be a key.

10:31Zane Lowe:It's already sold out. It's crazy. Like, they went in five minutes. I can't believe it. So I'm super blessed. So sick. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, everyone. And we will be doing another show in a bigger venue in February. Oh, really? Yeah. Baby, we're coming back. It's all a plan, you see. It's all strategy. So don't stress. If you didn't get tickets, do not fret. Because I got a few messages being like, I didn't get tickets. Oh, my God. And I'm actually just sorry. like it's fine it's just mad that they were like 10 o 'clock when people were waiting that's the thing that blew my mind yeah that's sick that's crazy so anyway i'm super grateful um how are you

11:06Rosalía:doing i'm good what is uh in my how i'm doing section uh this week i have one bullet point that says good but gross slash stinky okay so let's start there and then sorry and then the other one is all socializing as a performance which i think i'd like to get into afterwards um we would like to be that so yeah I'm good but gross and I just I'm just getting a bit down basically I was I was at okay on Friday right yeah and I was with my friend Terry we bumped into someone we used to know and they're such sweet person not gonna name them but you think they definitely don't listen to podcast uh but they stank and i was like wow did you get a load of that and then terry was like yeah you smell like that uh out of my wife no no sorry i opened it up i was like do i ever smell that bad because i'm you know paranoid yeah about how stinky i am i carry deodorant everywhere yeah yeah so like and she gagged you and said you smell like that but no but this is the thing so is that I think that I want to be told if I stink because I'm already fucking aware of it enough I'm paranoid about it I was in a Paul McCartney fucking Sergeant Pepper suit

12:23Zane Lowe:I didn't think you smelled but there was something you smelled hot I wish someone told me because I had Dio and Cologne but you wouldn't have been able to do it you were in a fucking Halloween costume Babe It wasn't that you were bad Like you didn't smell bad You just smelled like You were at the moth club And it was fucking hot I probably smelled like that too

12:44Rosalía:It was just It wasn't a very breathable Material It wasn't at all It was like It was really suffocating There was no other My glands to go to

12:51Zane Lowe:But you didn't smell bad No I would Like if you smell bad I'd be like bitch You see

12:54Rosalía:If you smell at a function Do you want to be told Or not

12:59Zane Lowe:Yeah You do right I do want to be told But I would tell you I think this is the problem I think this may be A British problem But you didn't smell bad Like it wasn't like You were like stinking out the room you were hanging yeah it wasn't that because if it was

13:11Rosalía:that black bitch you stink baby but I don't want to smell at all and I just like to put out a PSA to anyone even if you don't know me do it do it fucking respectfully or you're gonna get a slap in the face yeah gonna get a dusty knuckle oh don't dox me out like that you talk um i want people to tell me okay okay noted i'll tell you um but you don't stink like that oh babe i do i smell you know what's fucking sad I put on two jackets this morning before I came out and they both whiffed they both fucking smelt

13:56Zane Lowe:yeah that's Peaky Blinders but I get like that with cigarettes what is in your stink cigarettes? yeah like my night jumper I put it on this one but babe you choose to smoke cigarettes I don't fucking choose to stink you thought about Botox in your armpits is that a thing?

14:11Rosalía:yeah well speaking of where I'm losing it more and it might be speaking of what and if any fucking getting work done

14:21Zane Lowe:are you getting work done? well the hairline is are you on finasteride?

14:26Rosalía:no

14:27Zane Lowe:babe get on that no no no the thing that annoys me about men right is they'll be like I don't want to lose my sex drive shut up lose your hair then finasteride you take it it just blocks the DHP that attacks your hairline and then your hair stays that's what I was on for years before I started transitioning medically

14:42Rosalía:but a side effect is sex drive I didn't even know that

14:45Zane Lowe:It can be, or it can be mood swings, but it's neither for me. Like, it didn't affect me in any way.

14:48Rosalía:I could do with my sex drive going down, babe.

14:51Zane Lowe:I'm fucking like an arse.

14:52Rosalía:I should get my balls chopped off. Wouldn't life be easier?

14:55Zane Lowe:Well, it would, yeah. It'd actually be easier for me. Do you reckon we would be happier with no lust? No.

15:01Rosalía:Really?

15:01Zane Lowe:Sex is lovely. Sex is lovely.

15:04Rosalía:Sex is lovely, but it's just a distraction, man. I just need to lock in and fucking focus on my podcast, man.

15:10Zane Lowe:Yeah, but, like, without love and sex, we wouldn't be in this room. It is the best thing in the world. Do you know what I mean? and when it's good if my body wasn't so enchanting would we be sat in Bill's house right now? no I'd hate to think about your pussy

15:25Rosalía:not being enchanted pussy

15:34Zane Lowe:this is a good one I really enjoyed last week's episode as well I thought we were rambling boots it was quite serious

15:40Rosalía:it's good when we get serious because you know it's like we always say with TikTok talk you don't want to pigeonhole yourself to being the fucking one trick pony yeah it's not it's not natural and it's not strategic can i actually say one thing though right uh numbers

15:54Zane Lowe:are going up and i'm super super grateful but one thing that really really annoys me on spotify this just come into my head is you know the rating where it's like out of five rating it's 4.9 which is fine but can everyone just do it because i said there's only 300 people and i guarantee like every episode we're on like 50 000 yeah can everyone just like if you're here right now and you're on Spotify could just quickly click that thing and just put five. Yeah. Because that's just annoying. PSA. It's not like I'm mad at anyone. It's just more like they need to get rid of that feature. I think that's so stupid.

16:21Zane Lowe:What are you doing rating a podcast out of five? That's stupid.

16:23Rosalía:Wait, but are we...

16:23Zane Lowe:I'm not a Google.

16:24Rosalía:I'm not a restaurant. I'm a person. No, yeah, definitely rate us on Spotify. I'm just working out that we've now, this episode, told people to watch us on YouTube and rate us on Spotify. Maybe, what are we... Sorry, girls. No, no, no. Fuck it. Are we lost it? Are we lost it? You got two jobs this week and you don't have to watch us on YouTube and you also don't have to do it

16:41Zane Lowe:you don't have to do anything

16:42Rosalía:but it's just a plea because we're literally terrified of being alone right my other point apart from being really smelly yeah what was the other point I remember you by the way like let's have it right like I do generally smell okay no you do smell good because I shower literally like two times a day

17:00Zane Lowe:your aftershave always smells nice as I smell you if anyone

17:03Rosalía:any PR girls want to get in touch just hit me up I don't smell that bad um in other news yeah i've realized that and i feel like i you may have actually planted the seed in my head social you said in that like uh yeah socializing is a performance and uh the reason i say you planted it in my head is because you i remember you saying once that when you are with your best friends yeah you're just like sat back you're not even yeah yeah and i've been feeling the same way because i haven't even like i've had busier periods in my life when i actually had a fucking real nine to five yeah but i would say as part of this uh kind of whatever this phase is of our life yeah there's a lot of socializing and it's not just socializing it's kind of networking yeah and kind of you're on you're on yeah yeah performance is maybe an exaggeration but that is and I'm just, yeah, I'm a bit knackered of feeling like I have to be on, feeling like I have to ask questions.

18:06Rosalía:So my thing I'm reckoning with now is, do I A, just do less of that, or B, kill myself, or C, do I need to figure out a way to make the networking or socialising that isn't with like one of 10 people not feel like performance?

18:30Zane Lowe:So first, you need to go to minus one, minus A, before all that, and get a screening for ADHD. And then, after that, because I think about this all the time, I find it really, but some people, like, you can speak, and this is where I'm like, this is where it gets crusty and like star signy, because my friend Alvin came around the other day.

18:51Rosalía:You don't like getting crusty?

18:53Zane Lowe:It's always crusty with me, babe. I don't wash it off. but but my friend Alvin came around the other day and like socialising with him is so easy and bearing in mind I see this boy like every like three months four months did he bring the others with him that was good that was really good but he came around for dinner and I was saying to Bill I was like I find socialising with him so easy like certain people like so easy like my friends but sometimes I meet people and it's so difficult like almost gruellingly it's not even that they're boring or anything it's just like i'm making like a real proper effort and i truly do believe that some people are just compatible with you and some people aren't like i like at that party for example like all the parties we go to sometimes i'm just like on and sometimes i'm just like off to the point of like like i almost feel like i'm like broken but i think some people like you just don't whether your brains whether it is a cruddy thing that star signs or whatever or maybe it's just like your brain like not being rested or whatever like but sometimes you can't pay me to do like to be social with certain people you just it's so hard or without it feeling like a task even if it's good like i come away and i'm like fuck me that like poured the energy out of me i think it might be like underrated the most the difficult part about uh being like a a hugely successful artist for sure

20:17Rosalía:like imagine how doing a meet and greet doing a meet and greet on top of like doing a tour

20:23Zane Lowe:the thing is i think i'd be fine with it if i thought so for example meeting everyone that like follows us or like meeting people listening to my music or whatever and they come up to you i think that's so different like a meeting week if you pay me or tell me to do something i immediately don't want to do it i immediately don't want to do it like if you say i have to do something immediately just like shut down like if i fall into it fine so like say if we did a straight diva event and we did like a panel whatever the fuck you would want to do after that i'd be so fine because it's like everyone's just kind of there and so you'll meet everyone it'll be fine yeah not even just an event but like a gig or whatever because everyone's just fun and everyone's doing their own thing i think i would hate it if like do you know when you see like charlotte sat like or when they do the rough trade sign and then it's just a queue of people like i i think i'd like it was not even that i just think i'd struggle i'm not even saying i'd hate it it's just like it feels telling me to do something and sometimes meeting people like

21:20Rosalía:socially is like that i think yeah and then but you're also like there's this weird context of when you get to a big enough level that it's like often like paid that's what i mean and that's weird too that's fucking mad yeah and that's not even i mean i don't think i'd ever do that but like it's also like when you get to a certain level it's like there has to be some sort of filter her yeah because you can't just do or maybe i don't know what does charlie xx do when she

21:46Zane Lowe:doesn't mean great wow thank you wow just getting given like poppers yeah wow i can see you taking photos of me i love that video though i see you you would say that though yeah i wouldn't even do that i'd go straight to five straight away freaks um but yeah it's like the world i mean this isn't

22:09Rosalía:news, there's a whole book written about it, I feel, but I can't remember the name of it. The world is just designed for extra birds.

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23:22Rosalía:oh sorry sorry sorry no the world is designed for extroverts yeah and even for us freaks who can like, you know, we got the chat.

23:34Zane Lowe:Yeah. It's fucking exhausting. I am an introvert. And I know people laugh when I say that, but like, socializing to just take energy out of me. Mmm. But you know what re-energizes me? Fucking porking. Mmm. Porking.

23:52Rosalía:What else?

23:53Zane Lowe:Rosalia.

23:55Rosalía:And that's a lovely segue into Lux by Rosalia Rosalia who has been on a press tour with all the music nerd straight old man podcast she goes on podcast she goes on Zane Lo why is she like

24:11Zane Lowe:go on Zane Lo and Zane Lo just goes just goes and then after a while just goes art fucking art like fucking your art like it must be crazy just doing your art and like you know allowing space for your fucking art like art and then she's like yeah and then she goes and talks about saints and he's like yeah because with my kids with my kids and he'd talk about himself he's useless he's not he's

24:33Rosalía:love to go on his show yes why yes everyone's thinking that geese geese and rosalie are same week and you just know they're like i just have to do it well i don't know would you dread it

24:43Zane Lowe:because you just get some man blow smoke up yeah exactly he's glazing you're a legend you're a legend it's like babe i like it's like when she did the charlie interview and he was like you're a legend and like it's like she's like she's like just got world success like not gagging her like

24:58Rosalía:she's a legend in my eyes right like well but it's just like it's not a good foundation for a

25:03Zane Lowe:good interview whose is the worst whenever he interviews hayley williams because i love that girl she's the most sincere human being in the world and he's just trying to glaze and she's like thanks man yeah it's like oh it's so bad stop spaffing on my tits and nobody i never say that

25:21Rosalía:Nobody really likes to be praised too much.

25:26Zane Lowe:It makes me cringe.

25:27Rosalía:Because it makes anyone cringe because you start to feel like you're not on an equal footing with someone. Yeah. Like a compliment is obviously lovely. But like the thing about him is that he's it's almost uncomfortable. Yeah. And it's like you're, you know, an incredibly successful. What does he do? Well, you can't call him a journalist. I guess he's a radio presenter.

25:47Zane Lowe:Was he BBC once?

25:48Rosalía:Yeah. He was huge on Radio 1. he was like he was on radio one from like I think maybe like bring back Chris Moyles and then he went to America which I guess is more of a kind of a spiritual home for his style of yeah glazing although Jack Saunders kind of does and again it's kind of the same thing although actually

26:05Zane Lowe:I love the BBC Six Girls Zane Lowe BJ Deb Grant and what's his face the northern one Nathan Nathan Shepard what a legend show out and if you do want to get us on live session Nathan Shepard I would love it

26:18Rosalía:Nathan Shepard bringing like the TikTok clip sensibility to the Radio 6 tradition.

26:24Zane Lowe:Yeah, bringing up my TikToks on Radio 6. Finding that happy medium, you know?

26:29Rosalía:Yeah. It's all part of the fun. Apparently Radio 6 has higher listenership than ever before. We listen all the time. Which is because we're on it. Hello. Zane Lowe started his interview with Rosalia by saying...

26:46Zane Lowe:Wow.

26:46Rosalía:this congratulations on i'm not going to say this is an album because i think it's a framework and you're just instantly like oh my god i try and give you a chance every single time i listen

26:57Zane Lowe:to your stupid it comes out your mouth but it's an album babe it's an album and it's fine

27:01Rosalía:it's a fine stand out you could even say it's like highly conceptual like you know yeah but like framework really he's just he's just constantly like like what was the like did Did you know you were making an album of the year when you...

27:18Zane Lowe:My favourite thing he's ever done is to Adele where she has a song called Love is a Game. And he's like, there's a bit of Amy. And she's like, no, there's not. It's just because it's called Love is a Game. And she's got a song called Love is a Losing Game. And she just like gagged him back. She just shoved him right back. She was like, no, it's not. It doesn't give Amy at all. It gives Adele. And she was like, no. That's such... Do you know how fucking... Like, I'm not coming for journalists, but like, that's such shit journalism. It's given Amy because she has a song called Love Is A Game. Yeah.

27:51Zane Lowe:And Amy has one called Love Is A Losing Game. And it's going to bite me on the Oscars when I'm invited, when I'm never invited on the Zane Lowe's show, I'll be human.

27:59Rosalía:I think it's like, you know. I'll just apologise. Sorry, Zane. It's like A &Rs. It's like they like to be teased. Well, yeah.

28:07Zane Lowe:They put me on the Machine Gun Kelly show.

28:08Rosalía:And also, I have actually thought about.

28:11Zane Lowe:Does he have a show? No, it's Team Illy. It's Team Illy.

28:14Rosalía:I don't know who T. Millie is.

28:16Zane Lowe:I don't know who T. Millie is. Do you remember who's acting like Y.E. Can you remember? Can you remember? Can you remember? I say that a lot, don't I? Do you remember when T. Millie? Can you remember? Could you do an impression of my accent?

28:27Rosalía:Which one? My accent. Street interviewer too, or?

28:31Zane Lowe:Is there a difference? There's a slight tweet.

28:34Rosalía:Okay, what is it? It's a bit more dominant. When you're doing street interview, you go, Hi, I'm surfing.

28:41Zane Lowe:Hi, I'm surfing. Yeah, I do, yeah. It's like slightly more, I don't know. It's slightly more presenting. And I'll do like, how are you? I was talking a Manchester accent. Yeah, I thought you were from Manchester.

28:53Rosalía:Why? It's a panic thing. Actually, funny you should bring this up. I saw Punch last night. Have you heard about Punch? No. It's by the same guy that did the fucking very successful play about the England team, I think. And it's about masculinity. Whatever, I didn't see that. this was about a it's based on a true story I went with Jan I went with Jan legend mum took me out I got dinner oh nice where'd you go took her to Super Yard Ramen's new location just off Oxford Street I love doing this this is so you're getting paid and for new listeners Jan is my mom

29:34Zane Lowe:she is fierce

29:36Rosalía:and she takes me to the theatre sometimes and sometimes I like it and sometimes I don't. No, but Punch was good. It was very fucking normie. Yeah. It was about, it's based on a true story of this guy basically who was a bit of a Jack the Lad comes from a councillor state in Nottingham. Does he punch that man

29:54Zane Lowe:and kill him?

29:55Rosalía:Yes. I do know it. Because I remember seeing him on This Morning. It's based on that story.

29:59Zane Lowe:Okay.

30:00Rosalía:And his...

30:01Zane Lowe:Calling it Punch is crazy work.

30:04Rosalía:And it has a fucking woman from Corrie in it. Which woman? The kind of, the lovely, mum with the big black bob. And does she go out with Ken? Is she married to Ken? No, she's dead. Okay, I mean, she wasn't married to Ken. I can't look it up because I don't have Wi-Fi in this fucking studio. Yeah, I know.

30:24Zane Lowe:Sorry, lads. Someone from Corrie's in it, legend.

30:26Rosalía:Someone from Corrie's in it and she was actually incredible. Anyway, it's really good. I did cry. But it is also incredibly normie and a bit Jack the lad, Jack O 'Connell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is Jack O 'Connell in it? No, but the lead role may as well have been made for Jack O 'Connor. It's like, it's fucking... I love getting in fucking fights and getting on it and fucking mad for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But his Nottingham accent was incredible and it made me think that...

30:50Zane Lowe:And it's a really hard accent to do. It's so hard. Nottingham's so hard. Derby's hard, but Nottingham's like... Because it's not like any other accent. It's just Nottingham. All right, Doc. All right. It doesn't make sense. The Nottingham accent don't make sense. You coming out? You coming out?

31:06Rosalía:I can't actually do it. I need to study it more. But your accent is just somewhere between Manchester and art school.

31:16Zane Lowe:Yeah, yeah. I'm telling it to be posh. I went to the theatre as well and I saw Minnie Driver in that one that everyone's kind of doing. It was fierce. It was a one-woman play. No, what was it? No, no, it was like Minnie Driver did it, Lenny Henry did it, and Bea Kamal did it.

31:35Rosalía:Lolly Out of Hope did it? Did she? Well, there was something basically that she did. I'm just guessing completely because there was something that she did that loads of other performers. They took turns to do the same thing.

31:47Zane Lowe:Yeah, they all did like three week runs. Did she do it? No, it was one off a night.

31:51Rosalía:Maybe we're talking about different things.

31:52Zane Lowe:We apologise to anyone involved. Love you, Lolly. But we should get her on. I actually love her so much. Hey! And basically, it was amazing. and it made me it's basically about this person whose mom's suicidal and they start writing reasons why life is brilliant okay and the audience gets involved and like before the show that they're given notes and like when she shouts your number you say the note and it's like things about life being brilliant and i honestly it was so deeply moved it's basically about how like if you have like unfortunately like parents who struggle with like like emotionally uh parents who are unable to emotionally regulate if you have parents like that it will like affect like you and like give you you have a more a higher chance of like depression and such and so forth the whole show i had a fucking choke a sob in my throat that i was just swallowing down every time that they said something wonderful and then we left got home because we went to bill's parents i had a bath and me and bill were just like in the bath and i was just like do you know that those crying where it's like you're not crying it's just like tears because i was just saving them all and i was

33:03Rosalía:just like wait it's in sorry it's not crying it's just tears well it's obviously crying but like

33:07Zane Lowe:it's not like it's just not sobbing letting it all out so much and held it in and it was just like i was just in the bath of bill and it was just like flying down my face that was how i was crying last night it was so nice but then i feel like when you're doing that you're like you know what i just wish i could just fucking yeah i wish yeah it was so nice though and like it just those I walked away and I was like, life, life is worth living. So back to Rosalia. Yeah, it was fine. I liked it. I honestly love it. I think I wanted to hate it. Like I, I, well, hang on, let's stop right there because you don't want to do track by track, please.

33:43Zane Lowe:No, no, no. Thank God. I really don't want to do that because ultimately at the same time, though it's ultra fierce. I actually don't speak other languages, so I don't actually know what she's saying. so I can't do track right now.

33:55Rosalía:Two, it's a really great point that I feel like nobody fucking talks about. Yeah. It's like, am I missing something here? Everyone's like, play. And you may say like, well, yeah, but like how, this is what everyone else has to deal with when they listen to your fucking English music. It's like. Yeah, it's true.

34:08Zane Lowe:I don't care. Like, it is true. When they go on holiday,

34:11Rosalía:you say, okay, yeah? Yeah. Because I mean, please, foreign language, English accent.

34:16Zane Lowe:Like, should I learn? But you can't even learn Spanish because it's not just in Spanish, is it? It's 13 fucking languages.

34:21Rosalía:And it's like, babe,

34:23Zane Lowe:have a day off. Yeah. But no, it's... But I wanted to hate it so bad because I was like, this is so pretentious.

34:28Rosalía:But stop right there because you loved the single. Yeah, I did, yeah.

34:32Zane Lowe:But like when I heard it was 14 different languages, 13, 14, I was like, shut up. And then when I heard it, I was like, this is... The second song on it is magnificent. Like the vocal melody.

34:45Rosalía:Reliquia.

34:46Zane Lowe:So good. Like she is... She's just so talented. And that halo thing she's got going on with her hair at the minute. She's a fucking G. She's so small. It's so nice to know that there are true artists out there that are rich enough to not have to think about making rent.

35:04Rosalía:And even though we are clearly both cynical about 13 languages things, I think there was something that she said in the Popcast interview, which was like, you know, this is like an anti-dopamine thing period did you did you see that no she was like basically saying like classic kind of art school take like i want this to be a reaction to kind of mainstream culture and right now that's like um everyone's getting such short-term fixes like even to watch a movie for an hour without your phone is difficult and i want this to be like a fully engrossing experience and i thought that was one thing i really did like about the album is that like and similarly to yeah the lily allen album yeah it's like well i guess they're completely different in a lot of ways but something that was unites them both uh and i think makes them stand out in modern music is that they're like you can't have it on in the background no no we were saying

36:04Zane Lowe:that earlier it's too fucking chaotic yeah yeah you need to have it on and like i think that's

36:08Rosalía:quite a bold move maybe the rosalia one is even more kind of foreground or like fucking hell like you need to be focused on this. But like, it's quite a bold decision to make because like, I feel like music is almost like podcasts for a lot of people. It's like, it is usually a secondary thing. It's quite rare that people are just listening to music.

36:33Rosalía:But yeah, I don't know what else I have to say on that.

36:35Zane Lowe:Yeah, I just think it's magnificent. Like it's so magnificent. The final track Magnolia is as well. It's just like. I picked up the second

36:43Rosalía:second and the last one of my favorites yeah um it's so good i love that bit where she does that

36:49Zane Lowe:massive note at the end she's like and then i'll do something like and it goes fierce did you like

36:54Rosalía:the was it motor mommy are you a rosalie a fan oh my god i love motor mommy and i actually like the project before that with like baghdad on it which is her final piece oh the baghdad one

37:17Rosalía:why does rosalia get like all like just you know unanimous critical claim when she samples

37:23Zane Lowe:jt fierce i used to work with a girl called go yuri and i used to play rosalia and like um oh what's her name and uh oh god i can't even remember i used to play a bunch of spanish artist and just be like what's she saying now what's she saying now play like loads of arca songs what's she saying now and then she's like she's saying eat the world fuck the world love the world tranny and i've like work well i did translate some of her i mean we don't need to go

37:54Rosalía:into it all please but i mean reliquia the one we like yeah where she goes um um she's essentially doing a tiny temper um miami to ibiza she's just listing places nice i'm being harsh um it's really beautiful um me who lost my hands in jeres and my eyes in rom i grew up and i learned shamelessness somewhere around barcelona i lost my tongue in paris my time in la my heels in milan my smile in the uk but my heart has never been mine i always gave it away oh take a piece of me keep it for when i'm gone i'll be your relic and that's the name

38:30Zane Lowe:this one fucking sick and god she's fucking sick she's she's a genius that's what i've enjoyed most

38:37Rosalía:is that's crazy because i truthfully speaking on the i've never been i've been into like uh reggaeton but like i've never fully got into this kind of um modern phenomena of like spanish speaking artists purely because of the language barrier and I did realise for the first time ever that maybe this is like a plus because it means you look up the lyrics first of all and connect with them and like study them and learn them more than you would if it was even in English for sure but I think that and it keeps you interested in the album longer because I feel like upon first two listens, I'm like, shit, this could be one of the albums of the year.

39:24Rosalía:But I still barely know what it's about.

39:26Zane Lowe:I know, I can't wait to just go further into it and give it more of my time.

39:29Rosalía:And it encourages the lore. The lore. In fact, and she has a lyric about the lore and she has a lyric about being a diva, which I thought was quite funny.

39:40Rosalía:And there's a lot of references to Divine Intervention. Where's her line about a diva, Sue? Bjork says to Divine Intervention

39:49Zane Lowe:and stuff. Yeah.

39:52Rosalía:Okay, so she says, I brought something to help you relax. Here, you have this tribute. I'm the diva of craftiness. Ah. I brought something that might make you mad. Your law lacks journey, but you've got too much baggage. Dag it. Don't know what you're on about, but I'm interested. Sometimes we don't want them to know soon. Yeah. Okay. But that was Rosalia's album.

40:19Zane Lowe:Thanks, Rosalia. Come on the pod, ho.

40:22Rosalía:Yeah, stop doing all the fucking old music nerd podcasts. Yeah, stop talking.

40:26Zane Lowe:Like, we can talk about different languages and stuff.

40:28Rosalía:We'll ask you serious questions, but we might also ask...

40:30Zane Lowe:We'll ask you bad words to different languages.

40:31Rosalía:You know.

40:33Zane Lowe:Silly ones. Yeah, what's your favourite kind of... I would like to just suggest something. I think if I follow you, and I see you in public, and you ignore me...

40:45Rosalía:Oh, shit, here we go, let's go.

40:47Zane Lowe:So if I follow you... and you follow me and I see you in public and you ignore me I that second will pull out my iPhone 17 and unfollow you like I'm this I'm this close to blocking you don't piss me off this happened the other day it happened the day after we filmed the pod and I said I must bring this up on the pod I walked past this person that we must have followed each other since we were like 16 walked past me we could see each other clocked I was like I didn't want to say hi either but it's more like I'm going to smile walk straight past me it's not even that I think who do you think you are I actually think you're the bottom of the barrel interesting at that point and I think it's time for you to go so I unfollowed them but I find it so insulting bottom of the barrel interesting because they blanked you I don't even have to follow you if I know you and we've met before smile at me I will smile back or I will smile at you and you smile back I couldn't believe it I literally couldn't believe it I This person I've known This is like A child Oh Like a teenager Walks past me And we don't know each other like that Fair dues When was the last time You saw each other Probably at a party A couple years ago We know what each other looks like We like each other's photos So I just unfollowed you immediately And if that is you And you listen to this You're actually a dickhead This is so funny because I hate that shit It really really bothers me Because we're so chronically online But I'm like There's a fucking world out there Like we exist Like come fucking on

42:17Rosalía:I this sounds like a slightly different situation to mine but I had a slightly similar situation with where I walked past someone that I met through you when we went to freeze you remember your friend was there and they had their girlfriend there I walked past Jessie in Tahoe yesterday and we may have seen each other we may have not

42:38Zane Lowe:and we just walked past each other and I was like you know what that's fine we didn't see each other but when you are walking towards like yeah he was here yeah you walked don't piss me off don't piss me off so i unfollowed him

42:53Rosalía:anyway i think it's fine that you unfollowed them i think because i'm like all right you

42:56Zane Lowe:want to play strangers let's play strangers but you never have it where forever i've done that

43:02Rosalía:with close friends where i blank a lot not blank them but like i see a close friend across the road i'm like not i'm not gonna make an effort to go you're across the road that's different

43:13Zane Lowe:you're walking past me are you meeting their gaze yes I met that was the thing we locked eyes and then I was like oh fuck's sake oh you locked eyes yeah and so much so that I even said to my friend oh fuck's sake I'm gonna have to say something I didn't want to but like I was like ready to and then they just like walked off shit and you look boring as fuck anyway it's hard it's hard it's hard out here like okay but I like it bothers me that I know who you are now yeah

43:41Rosalía:because you're clearly not worth it I think it's slightly It's a slightly unique situation, but my only retort is that I sometimes don't want to speak to my own friends. That's fine. I've spotted my friends in Sainsbury's who ignore each other. Exactly. In Sainsbury's is the perfect example.

43:55Zane Lowe:Yeah, I don't want to talk to you in Sainsbury's. I'll ignore you in Sainsbury's.

43:58Rosalía:Because you're friends with them? Because you can do that? Yeah. Okay. And because you hadn't locked eyes

44:04Zane Lowe:and it's like once you lock eyes. But this person, we barely know each other. We've just known each other for years. I wasn't going to stop. I was with a mate, you were with a mate. Hiya.

44:11Rosalía:Right.

44:12Zane Lowe:Hiya, babe. Don't piss me off.

44:14Rosalía:I wasn't going to kiss you, babe. You fucking clapped anyway. And you're tracking and I hate you.

44:22Zane Lowe:I just want to bring that up.

44:23Rosalía:No, I think it's interesting. I think a lot of people have very different answers on this. I think bumping into someone is... There's a lot of nooks and crannies to it. That people will disagree on. and i feel like our generation especially is probably bad at bumping into people like yeah i bet older generations are like oh my god hey yeah whereas we're like whereas we fucking like i can think of people that i follow on instagram all the time like you know big pages in our world and i see them in person it's like hey it's a it's a very it's a very modern problem yeah but you said hey

45:08Zane Lowe:people you follow say hey yeah but like

45:10Rosalía:and I said hey it's weird there's people that you've like had like loads of DMs with and then you but you should say hey I will unfollow you no no no and you say hey

45:19Zane Lowe:okay great yeah perfect that's all I'm asking

45:21Rosalía:but it's like

45:23Zane Lowe:it's completely different I have such I think if I don't know you in real life I will just not follow you back yeah that's fine and I've started unfollowing people that I don't know in real life and they haven't changed my life at all yeah but you've been unfollowing Yeah, because I'm just like, you wouldn't talk to me in my life. And if I find that out as a fact, you're Gonski, babe. You're Gonski. Thank you.

45:43Rosalía:Good night, Vienna.

45:45Zane Lowe:Don't cry for me. The way Sophie's lying there, like she's dead. Sophie, dead.

45:50Rosalía:Did Rosalia do any Austrian?

45:53Zane Lowe:The truth is I never love you.

45:56Rosalía:Did she do any German? She did do German. Yeah. Which is, well, that's actually the perfect segue to tell them about Arnie Project. because me and Sue are going to be making music together and it's all going to be in backslang and Sims language. Yes. Sorry. Backslang is like that fucking thing where it's like I hate that.

46:20Zane Lowe:Can you speak like that? No. Me neither. I've got a life. I've got things to do.

46:26Rosalía:Why do you think you're important enough to ruin traitors for everyone else?

46:36Zane Lowe:I didn't ruin it I didn't ruin it I gave a suggestion It wasn't ruin I didn't say Well done Alan Carr I said Alan fucking Carr Could have lost I didn't ruin it I deliberately

46:51Rosalía:You knew something With Alan Carr was happening

46:53Zane Lowe:Why were you not watching it live Is the real question Because I have a fucking life Because I was on another day Exactly That's on you Lock in with the rest of the country There was a license

47:03Rosalía:on Tuesday yeah exactly this was on Thursday so you were burying her

47:07Zane Lowe:that day then

47:11Zane Lowe:getting rid of the body you ming her exactly what the fuck

47:21Zane Lowe:oh my god

47:23Rosalía:no is that Thursday was my one night in

47:26Zane Lowe:yeah exactly so lock the fuck in

47:28Rosalía:I watched the fucking Beatles get back which I know you're gonna be like

47:30Zane Lowe:see that's your fault Alan Carr's winning the trade

47:33Rosalía:But maybe I'm just trying to fucking get closer to my dad Because we barely have anything in fucking common Sue and maybe I'm just trying to fill the void Of my struggling relationship with parents With dating just various women And everything in common

47:49Rosalía:Oh it's so Fucked up Why can't I just like the fucking Beatles Let me like the fucking Beatles they're good They're fucking good

48:01Zane Lowe:I was so good that I actually stressed me out of it. I was like I was like I can't tell if he's crying or not Yeah

48:08Rosalía:I see But all good scenes have some level of truth. Yeah Um, no, I did think about the Beatles thing and I do think it's just me trying to get close to my dad

48:19Zane Lowe:And that's okay. But does your dad not watch traitors?

48:22Rosalía:God no, he needs to wake up and watch the traitor. Well, let's have it right from the horse's mouth because I think it's often when When, yeah, you fucking filthy horse.

48:33Zane Lowe:Yeah, are you saying that like a horse? Yeah. Are you saying that a trans woman looks like a horse? Your big fucking book teeth, love. Your big man teeth. Yeah. Your big man jaw. Horse face bitch. Horse face transsexual freak. I didn't say that. What did I react to? I said, oh, they were dumb dumb. Because I think it's nice when... Have you watched it now?

48:55Rosalía:No, but I think it's... You've not watched it? No, because I have a life and it's just slop. And, um, Slop for the horse. Slop. Slop for the horse as well. And it's Slop. No, it is, though. It's just, like, I think...

49:08Zane Lowe:Babe, did you see the news an hour before they made it about the traitors? There was no news. It was for the traitors. And then after it was just reviewing the traitors.

49:14Rosalía:It is incredible how huge it is. People lock in. It's amazing. It was wild. And I am being a hater, and I know that. And it's just because I'm not part of it. Slop is funny. But it's like, it does... I was saying last week, it doesn't feel as fun, as interesting as short-term hit. As the Beatles. As there's a TikTok hit. And it doesn't feel as meaningful or interesting as like a film. Or smoking a bifida with the boys. I've been smoking, babe.

49:39Zane Lowe:Have you been smoking weed? I've been smoking weed too much.

49:41Rosalía:I'm not a weed gal. And hence, I've put on four kilograms and I need to smoke. Have you been binge eating? I've been binge eating.

49:46Zane Lowe:I've only had loads of packet of crisps.

49:51Rosalía:I've only eaten a half a tub of sun pat.

49:54Zane Lowe:Mum. I've only had a loaf of bread with loads of butter

49:58Rosalía:My brother used to tell me when I got home from school He used to look at me I've only had a pack of Toms and a Coca-Cola I used to get home from school and have a bagel Yeah, I used to have cereal And like 12 custard creams with a cup of tea And he used to look at me like

50:11Zane Lowe:Yeah, and I'd still eat dinner

50:13Rosalía:And I was like, look, I've got to take advantage of this while I can You think I look this good?

50:18Zane Lowe:Who look at you like that? Which brother? My brother, Alfie But to be honest I heard rumours about Alfie this month this week. Oh, God. What? I literally can't say them. That he's packing? No, that good. No, like nice ones. Nice ones? Like he's going to be working. He's working on stuff. Oh.

50:35Rosalía:Fucking hope so. Bloody hell. God, man. Wait, where the fuck were we? Traitors. I was saying I think it's nice when, like, one of us doesn't know about something. Yeah. Because then the audience can live with us. Basically, the whole thing was

50:50Zane Lowe:Alan was just, like, a really shit traitor and I can't believe that they believed him, basically. and in the end it was like they got rid of Joe Joe Joe the big rugby player guy Joe Marler yeah they got rid of him and then they were all like yeah it's not Alan even though everyone was saying it was Alan like it was so strange it was so weird and then when Alan revealed he was a traitor he was just sobbing because he just felt so bad whereas the whole season he was like I'm going to kill this bitch sorry everyone sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I just love Alan Carr and I my dream is to go on Alan Carr Chatty Man because the best thing ever is when Ariana Grande's on.

51:26Zane Lowe:No, we should. When Ariana Grande's on and he goes, so you called the album Dangerous Woman, but you were going to call it Moonlight. We're going.

51:39Zane Lowe:And he's like giving it to himself that he said it and everyone is like, it's crazy. Get in here, girl. Yeah, like it's crazy.

51:47Rosalía:Does he know about the memes of her doing black shit? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

51:52Zane Lowe:Get in the photo Get in here girl Yeah it's crazy I'll be there with my juice I'm gonna be there with my juice She does like It is like love Ariana But like she does change every era Like this like goofy white girl thing That she's doing at the minute Like no shade But like the whole thing where she's like Yeah Oh hello I do rate it Thank you But like bring back She's in the musical theatre era Yeah Did you see them doing Did you see what Happy days Happy times

52:24Rosalía:Did you see what I've done?

52:26Zane Lowe:We should do a cover of that

52:28Rosalía:Came in a black man's left in a way one

52:30Zane Lowe:I'm just a hoodlum We should do a cover of that Because they did it on Glean And Ariana and Cynthia did it the other day Okay, I don't know what it is It's a cover of My daddy's just a hoodlum Who is it of? What's her name? Barbra Streisand and what's her face And she's like, happy times and you're like happy days and it would be just horrible if you did it okay I love it sounds great I don't know it

52:56Rosalía:but I'll learn it

52:57Zane Lowe:or like for Halloween next year I'll learn it for you thank you

53:01Rosalía:we've been talking for ages do you think do you know

53:04Zane Lowe:the muffin man do you think

53:06Rosalía:that one of the cons of globalisation is that we're getting just ridiculous crisp flavours like German Donner Kebab now yeah like obviously globalisation

53:15Zane Lowe:I actually got asked the other day whether it was what do you think of globalisation sir I think I got asked the other day whether it was our fault that Donnie's closed down. Oh, fuck. It hasn't closed down. It's doing good. They've remade it as a sandwich shop. If anything, we did. And it wasn't us, actually.

53:29Rosalía:He did a video himself where he said... Did he? Yeah, that's what we were reacting to. He did a video. He did an interview with some... I don't know. Food publication. Are you saying he's changed? No, no, no. That was a statement. Why do I think of globalisation? It was like a promo piece that was like, hi, I'm Donnie. a Donner Obsessed DJ. I was quoting what he had said to himself. Yeah, I know. We never said anything.

53:56Zane Lowe:So clock it. What do I think of globalization, Pete? You?

54:01Rosalía:What is globalization? Good question. It's, I guess, the idea that like historically there's been nations and your identity is like mainly informed by your nationality.

54:15Zane Lowe:Yeah, I don't think that should be correct. I feel like we all want.

54:17Rosalía:And then as we've modernized over the 20th and 21st century, we, you know, you consume culture from different countries. Yeah. And as a result, all the countries' cultures kind of become a little bit more intertwined. I mean...

54:32Zane Lowe:I feel like we should all be one. Yeah. We embrace each other.

54:34Rosalía:But then, did you see... Do you lose your civic pride? Do you lose that little duke in you?

54:39Zane Lowe:No, because I didn't like it anyway.

54:41Rosalía:Yeah. I'm like civic pride or like local pride and then global pride. I don't really give a fuck

54:47Zane Lowe:about national well no and also you got enough to be proud of me from the UK there's nothing great about Britain is what it is is what it isn't but then

54:55Rosalía:you know what you know what you've the fucked up thing is is that so many people like D law so many people I'm big oh sorry for singing slow tie that's not that's big I've realized the fucked up thing is is that so many people can be patriotic and they they believe in completely different things but they're in this illusion of the nation. So like, you might, someone might be patriotic about like fucking, you know, Radio 4 or Stephen Fry. People like King Henry VIII. And then another person might be patriotic about Winston Churchill or, and it's just the, it's the most vague, meaningless group of things, but it all keeps us together even though we don't really get on.

55:32Rosalía:Yeah. And encourages exclusionary attitudes. Like, anyway. Why ask me this? Because it was funny and I thought there was a gag in crisp flavours and globalisation. Yeah. I thought it would be a funny thing to just dawn on you. Guys, what do you think? Chat. What do you think of globalisation? Shit. What do you think of shit? Tottenham. Thank you. That's alright. Hey, Tottenham. Hey, Tottenham. Hey, Tottenham. Is there... Oi. Any thoughts on that I'm a celebrity, Karlsruhe? Why is H in it? You ever had a millionaire eat your pussy? As he's fucking fisting roaches.

56:14Zane Lowe:Have you ever had a millionaire eat you pussy? You see that video? No, I just had Joe Giz. I think he did it at Glastonbury.

56:20Rosalía:Have you had a millionaire eat you pussy? Guys, you're hearing it here first. Your feed for the next three weeks is going to be H and Angry Ginge. Who's Angry Ginge? He's the streamer from Manchester. And he's on Amsterdam. And they're mates and they get on really well and they're quite funny together. And they're going to dominate your screens whether you like it or not because they've got Cam. You've had a millionaire eat you pussy. Buzz That's awful

56:45Zane Lowe:Do you think H is sexy Um No Because I think the way he talks about women is actually rank And I think like recently he just like lies about women

56:54Rosalía:Oh what

56:55Zane Lowe:Well he's with that He went on a podcast Said that he's like He went down on his girlfriend And she shat herself or something Did you see all that And then she He went down on his girlfriend

57:03Rosalía:And she shat herself

57:03Zane Lowe:No no no He said that like they're in Thailand And you know Was it Thailand I think it was Thailand No Bali They went to Bali And like you get barley belly or something I've got barley belly babe

57:14Rosalía:gave me my fucking hemorrhoid babe heavy on it

57:18Zane Lowe:but I basically he was basically saying that apparently he like over told this story about how like he was going down on her and she like shit everywhere and he had to like clean the sheets and this and the third and he said this on a podcast about his ex and his ex is a famous model and she was like that literally didn't happen you absolute weasel like she was like this what happened she was like yeah I did I sharted like absolutely but he was shitting himself too like it was like this like whole thing and like well because like people get barley belly but he's like why are you bringing it up like shut your mouth you freak

57:49Rosalía:that is weird oh just okay so

57:51Zane Lowe:see I quite like him

57:52Rosalía:another straight man fucking torn down I like I just keep finding new role models to believe in because I believe in positive ideas

58:01Zane Lowe:of masculinity why can't you just believe in a woman instead

58:03Rosalía:I believe in so many women I believe in my mum

58:06Zane Lowe:okay I believe in your mum too and that's not even like me making a dig like I actually no I believe in loads of women I just I believe in a think of love any chance you can make a know I think of love

58:25Zane Lowe:let's go

58:30Rosalía:great music video

58:31Zane Lowe:what's the Christmas song that they do touching you touching me

58:47Zane Lowe:What's the one they do Christmas so we so forget your fucking ninja rub Sorry, what's one that they do?

59:09Rosalía:Sounds like the Pogues

59:12Zane Lowe:That is the best song of all time Can we talk about how it's nearly my birthday

59:20Zane Lowe:95th December girls Lock it in Can't wait for you to say happy birthday to me You're the 5th of December? The 19th So really my gig is just an early birthday Prezi to me So bring me presents I'm joking please don't do that That's a joke Bring me presents. Christmas time.

59:39Rosalía:Alma. I feel like core audience members are going to love this episode. New audience members might be like, what?

59:45Zane Lowe:Who are these two poofters? Is that one gay? What is that with the pigtails? Puffhead.

59:53Rosalía:That TikTok did well, though. Yeah, it did, didn't it?

59:57Zane Lowe:We're like an agony on.

1:00:03Rosalía:yeah let's do it we haven't watched I Love LA yet but we're gonna talk about it next week

1:00:07Zane Lowe:Rachel Sennett I Love You or maybe we could talk about it with Zuzuri or maybe we should

1:00:10Rosalía:talk about it next week

1:00:12Zane Lowe:aww love you both lots Sue you're amazing in Bristol please share some good hinge openers uh

1:00:20Rosalía:what are the prompts so alright shall I

1:00:23Zane Lowe:fake you a prompt and you gotta immediately say what comes to your head yeah best pick up line piss in my ass nice one thing you should know about me I love cockroaches that was shit sorry two truths and a lie two truths and a lie

1:00:44Rosalía:I'm hung like Hulk Hogan I take steroids like Hulk Hogan I've got political views like Hulk Hogan nice that's good

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1:01:58Zane Lowe:The things I'm thinking of are just wonderful

1:02:00Rosalía:Wow the improv queen has a fucking Yeah go one more time

1:02:04Zane Lowe:Go one more time I'm attracted to AI videos of Princess Diana Do me do me do me Don't talk to me if

1:02:19Rosalía:You haven't got a fucking massive dick Oh god I'm better Fuck That was good

1:02:27Zane Lowe:Yeah that was fun No no no more One more To pastime I

1:02:35Rosalía:Try not to think about fucking my mum Do one more

1:02:42Rosalía:Don't talk to me unless You've murdered three women

1:02:50Zane Lowe:Awful

1:02:51Rosalía:don't no okay

1:02:55Zane Lowe:something I will not be challenged on is

1:02:59Rosalía:male feminism

1:03:05Rosalía:my love language is piss and shit

1:03:15Zane Lowe:the last screenshot in my camera roll was granny porn the murdering of saddam hussein me sending nudes to my granny

1:03:29Rosalía:a picture of my own shit to check how healthy it was

1:03:35Zane Lowe:do you have a flashlight your own poo no i do it every time really yeah see if there's blood in it

1:03:44Rosalía:no not even I just want to see what it's packing period I can talk quite a lot about my health from my stool god you're jilly mckeeve oh jilly mckeeve what you doing on i'm a celebrity

1:03:57Zane Lowe:should we stop there god that's so addictive though yeah it's so fun that'll be a clip how the hell do I fit in a new job and be likeable whilst also being myself

1:04:07Rosalía:oh sorry that was a that was a fucking question wasn't it hinge prompts sorry um no they just

1:04:12Zane Lowe:said that they loved us okay great was it how the hell do i fit in a new job and be likable

1:04:17Rosalía:was also being myself okay great question um what are you suggesting that yourself is awful are you suggesting that you're spineless and that you have no personality i think you can be just a bit like so you just want to be a chameleon or are you never know that's how that's how i am like

1:04:38Zane Lowe:hiding away or like you're like masking what did you do at unnamed cafe must tell I was just me and I was a personality higher and in the end I was so shit in my job because I fucking hated it and always just wanted to be a podcaster and musician and when it slowly started happening for myself I was so shit in my job but the thing is I could just socialize and kiki so everyone just laid off me but i was a good barista good people to ask because we're just fucking wheelies like is it like i was actively bad at my job in the end i think don't talk shit lad you know you're just

1:05:17Rosalía:boring on a land bike just exploring that's nice um wait sorry no we haven't answered that well

1:05:23Zane Lowe:enough i'm afraid how the hell do i fit in a new job and be likable but also be myself

1:05:28Rosalía:um well i feel like what i've just been alluding to is a bit of my problem is that sometimes i I feel like I compromise who I am to try and be liked by people. But I would say when you're first getting started in the job, a bit of that will go quite far. So you're going to listen to the Straight Diva podcast, first of all. So you can be up to date on all the kind of zeitgeist pop culture that you need to be to make good water cooler chat. You're going to assess what kind of people you work with. We've got the guy who plays Five Aside. We've got the girl who is into Rosalia and Lady Gaga. we've got the just named me and bill okay we've got the guy who's really into history but is actually very sweet um who whatever you want that to be it no i hate history i wish i liked history i love the future right yeah i wish i liked history yeah i find it so boring anyway you basically just need to ask questions assess the vibe have a drink sorry or have a non-alcoholic drink but hang out with them after work and just be lovely and be yourself i think i don't think i don't think you even have to be friends with people at work you might you might you might end up not getting to know these people you go like you know what like i like these people but i actually don't want to spend every yeah you don't have to yeah i think

1:06:47Zane Lowe:that's one of the good things one thing i do have a con is i think there's like uh like a revolution right now on tiktok which is like i'm not friends with my work colleagues and i actually think that's also boring too you can like be fine with them like have i seen anyone from the cafe since leaving no i love them but like work sometimes is situational however like it is like you can have a key along the way do you know what i mean like and you can be friends people i tell my work colleagues things i would never tell like best mates you just tell them filthy things and i would

1:07:17Rosalía:say like it's fun you want to you want to be helpful and lovely around the office but you don't want to be like a fucking teacher's pet like you want to kind of i mean the fucking spice of life truly the river of the world is is bitching about your boss to your colleagues like that is

1:07:34Zane Lowe:like thirst quenching yeah i love it when you start somewhere new and you're like is she a bit and then they're like no i love her but and then it's like oh really and then she's like oh no she's a cunt and you're like oh thank god she's dreadful it's like it's like you know bonding

1:07:48Rosalía:with a cousin over like your racist grandma or something. Yeah. You finally, you find that bonding point and it's about hating someone else. Yeah. Gorgeous.

1:07:56Zane Lowe:You ready for a new question? No. We need more Nepo baby stories from Lou. Please, there must be some. Uh, where should I? Have you got any godparents that are famous?

1:08:08Rosalía:My godfather produced Everybody Wants to Rule the World by Tears for Fears and that whole album, which is my coolest claim to fame. I met Lady Gaga when I was 12 that's sick that's sick and she was wearing a fantastic dress does Lady Gaga know your dad? she did at one point I doubt if you mentioned his name he's been retired for so long he's on a beach in WeHo

1:08:43Zane Lowe:don't know where WeHo is he's in West London not getting the fuck off his sofa Period. That's retirement. That's me now.

1:08:51Rosalía:Is there any other Nepo baby story to tell off the top of my head?

1:08:57Rosalía:Well, I told the Strictly one. I don't know. Have I told you any that... No, I'm trying to think.

1:09:08Rosalía:Maybe we'll... I don't know. I'll have a think about it. Yeah, come back. And maybe we'll be patron-exclusive or something. Yeah. And then you can all clip it and cancel me.

1:09:24Rosalía:basically my dad yeah worked universal music yeah it was really high up and it was really high up so just put it in the wikipedia now um but he did get hi he did get a horrible brain injury so just be like conscious about when you say like oh my god his dad's so powerful he's like he did actually we did actually have to go through quite a lot so maybe just think about that i'm sorry babe no it's okay I'm just kind of you know weathering the storm before it

1:09:51Zane Lowe:it comes so I kind of I'm sick of helping people today is that what I felt I'm so grateful for sending these maybe we should do an agony I pray

1:10:02Rosalía:I pray for the person that's about to help no they're like

1:10:05Zane Lowe:yeah I know yeah guys like I am gonna like I'm gonna really let's do it

1:10:13Rosalía:when we're fresher we could do We could do some in Lagoon. Yeah, yeah, that would be fun.

1:10:18Zane Lowe:Okay, we're going to save them because I'm running out of effort.

1:10:22Rosalía:And we've done an hour and fucking ten minutes. Okay. And we've been fucking hilarious, I would say. Look at my cat. I wonder if we've been too funny. We're off the back of two episodes where we're kind of, three episodes even, where we were quite, we were actually a bit intellectual at times, you could even say. And it feels really good to just be fucking idiots again.

1:10:42Zane Lowe:This is the first time she likes me stroke without biting her in ages.

1:10:46Rosalía:Yeah, but you're a fucking rage baiter because I clocked you and you're fucking trying to piss her off. I'm not trying to piss her off. And then you cry wolf when she fucking bites back.

1:10:56Zane Lowe:I love her. She's my best friend. Look. I feed her every morning.

1:11:01Rosalía:Oh, she a feeder for real.

1:11:06Zane Lowe:Sophia Gaynor. Sophia. Got anything to say? Nah. Nah, she's tired.

1:11:13Rosalía:oh we're still rolling bitch um and you've been listening to Straight Diva and uh watch out for our guest episode yeah we'll see you on Friday oh and I watched Rotting in the Sun and it was really good but not a very good Sunday and I watched

1:11:25Zane Lowe:Alright Baby what was it called Sorry Baby and it was good

1:11:28Rosalía:okay um but it was a there was a lot of R word in it

1:11:33Zane Lowe:yeah there was some sexual assault in it um so watch Rotting in the Sun

1:11:37Rosalía:with Jordan Firstman where he plays himself but it takes a horrible and it's all in Mexico. It's really good. It's not a good Sunday weed smoking.

1:11:47Zane Lowe:It's not good when you're on a bifta.

1:11:49Rosalía:And stop smoking weed, guys.

1:11:51Zane Lowe:We love you. We love you. It's always been you. Bye. Bye, Sophie.

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