snl, roan chappell, dating hell

25 Mar 2026 · 54 min · 22 chapters

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In short

The hosts trade stories about nightlife and anxiety (including a fear of meningitis/hangover), ADHD meds, money-obsessed TikTok creators, and reactions to SNL UK’s launch. They also debate the Chapel Roan “dating hell” controversy and the ethics of celebrity backlash, then answer “craziest date” questions and share intense dating experiences.

Guest backgrounds

No formal guests. The episode is a conversation between the hosts, including “Sue I Think” (a London-based creator/performer who mentions TikTok and upcoming gigs) and “Sue” (co-host). They reference friends/artists like Jack Shepp, Al Nash, Adam Warren, and Bill.

Key claims

SNL UK is exciting but some sketches feel slow/too American; Jack Shepp “carried” the episode. Chapel Roan is unfairly targeted; the incident is framed as surveillance/misogyny and a likely overreaction. Money-mindset TikTok content can become “manosphere”-adjacent and exploitative.

Notable examples

Pub quiz at the Army and Navy; TikTok critique of Shoshi; SNL UK sketches (“baby shy baby,” Kirstimer, Kia/David Attenborough); Chapel Roan being shouted at/guard incident; crazy dates including a Berlin trip and a manipulative partner who later dated someone else online.

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Chapters

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Playlist Update

0:04 to 0:45

The host discusses updating a popular playlist and social media interactions.

“It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.”

Life in East London

0:45 to 2:40

The hosts share their experiences and observations about East London culture and aesthetics.

“Frick yeah The Big Beat Stock Exchange is back For those that don't know I run a playlist that has like a million followers I need to see you dissect this Have you seen this video?”

The Impact of Social Media

2:40 to 4:12

Discussion on how social media shapes perceptions and interactions among friends.

Hangovers and Health

4:12 to 6:22

The conversation turns to hangovers, health concerns, and the challenges of being an artist.

“You're gonna get it What's her Sorry, what's her artist name?”

Navigating Social Events

6:22 to 9:18

Exploration of social dynamics at events and the difficulties of attending alone.

“What it is, is I don't want to go and make friends there.”

Creative Process and Music

9:18 to 12:08

Hosts discuss their songwriting approaches and experiences in the music industry.

“bang bang bang bang bang bang bang um and i i am on like my last couple and i just don't want to give them up and i think i could have just done with an adhd med your last stash yeah yeah you're Like a fucking addict.”

Discussion on TikTok Influencer Shoshi

14:00 to 14:25

The hosts discuss TikTok influencer Shoshi and her recent popularity related to money topics.

“No On TikTok You're way more Plugged in on TikTok These days than I am Well I did a video Talking about Shoshi and it actually did well today and I'm actually quite surprised.”

Critique of Money Mindset Culture

15:09 to 18:24

The hosts critique the prevalence of money-focused content among influencers.

“Like she stopped being the loving icon that we all know and love.”

Hypochondria and Personal Anecdotes

18:24 to 19:10

Hosts share personal stories about hypochondria in a humorous manner.

“Okay, well, go check out Sue I Think's TikTok.”

Reviewing SNL UK

19:10 to 22:34

The hosts discuss their thoughts on the new SNL UK, its sketches, and performances.

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Audience Reactions to SNL UK

22:34 to 24:56

Discussion about audience reactions and critical responses to SNL UK's performances.

“Which was like, every time she says something, I was like, girl, say the joke and go.”

Future of British Comedy on TV

24:56 to 28:00

Exploration of the potential future of British comedy and opportunities on television.

Discussion on T4 and Sketch Shows

28:00 to 30:00

Exploring the concept of T4 and the evolution of sketch shows.

“Tekki-Tokki The grass was in pain I wouldn't I wouldn't But yeah I just think they should launch a T4 And we should be on it They should launch a T4 Lamar from afar Yeah What else is they doing on T4?”

Insights on New Comedy Talent

30:00 to 32:44

Discussing the new wave of comedians and their impact on British comedy.

“and everyone was like, do you know who that was?”

Chapel Roan Controversy

32:44 to 37:06

Analyzing the media backlash against Chapel Roan and societal reactions.

“I think Anja Maliano is 27 or something.”

Reflections on Jude Law and Celebrity Culture

37:13 to 42:01

Comments on Jude Law's family dynamics and celebrity scrutiny.

“Lollapalooza Oh wow Are there going to be 3 million people there or something?”

Discussing Kids in Pubs

42:01 to 43:36

The hosts share their opinions on taking kids to pubs and certain venues.

“Like, I don't think you take kids to pub on the park.”

Craziest Dates: Personal Stories

43:37 to 46:40

Hosts recount their wildest dating experiences, including unexpected romantic developments.

“I wouldn't take myself to the Spur's Toe unless it was a Tuesday night.”

Toxic Relationships and Lessons

46:41 to 52:18

A deeper dive into the impact of toxic relationships and the lessons learned from them.

“And then we go to a club and we're with a friend and it's all fun.”

Toxic Relationships and Lessons

53:16 to 54:34

A deeper dive into the impact of toxic relationships and the lessons learned from them.

“who support your preference for podcasts over music on road trips?”

Listener Question: Boyfriend Dynamics

54:40 to 56:03

Hosts respond to a listener's question about their boyfriend's reaction to the podcast.

Embracing Support and Humor

56:03 to 58:05

The hosts discuss the nature of support and humor in relationships.

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0:01This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required, compatibility and availability varies 18+. legally we can't say drinking storm makes you smarter and more focused but with zero sugar 200 milligrams of caffeine and immunity support you're smarter and more focused for drinking storm storm good energy in good energy out energy for life what gals in your dm what gals um how do you miss this thing no just tag them in my story because i finally updated my playlist Frick yeah The Big Beat Stock Exchange is back For those that don't know I run a playlist that has like a million followers I need to see you dissect this Have you seen this video?

1:03Nope Okay

1:09You gotta hit it and then hit it You gotta hit it Then unmute You know them one I'm in London right now I'm in a little swaggy, sexy, hackney East London Creators I mean we're just on a run and there was so many of them thought about the cafes like with the cool orange glasses like Slick Bag Bun I haven't seen this Runeau Blonde I don't mind I don't mind but I think that's I think that's the wife I want little little East London creative girl you know a bit edgy a few random tats Slick Bag Bun cool swag yes ma 'am I remember my first beer we were all so you go dude we were all him at once that was Bill like two years ago yeah it's like but he wasn't it was me really it's when you first get a taste of this life you know yeah couple tattoos bit edgy bit of that orange glasses blonde brunette i don't mind as long as they're uh as long as they're posh and they got a bob yeah oh hello little east london creative ones an east ting and um he's just trying to find belonging and friendship and friendship and sue him for putting his ideal woman out there at least he's brave enough to say it some of y 'all be thinking that but can't say in it yeah communicating in a way he's good at communicating but but what did you think of it sue yeah i loved it i saw someone else upload it i didn't realize that now they were lip syncing that was the original yeah okay yeah yeah it's really what the thing is it's funny because lads like that are then now lip syncing it claiming it's not them but like it is them yes and it goes back to your thing of like posh girls posh people doing impressions of push people exactly god i just love wiping my nose i love it when you do that on a freak now that you picked up that cup don't you dare slip it because i was like don't do it because i was because i was just in pop last week and i was like genuinely like it makes me go oh no that's right stop stop you better stop you better stop i um i think i've got meningitis today yeah so tell me so the thing is i went out last night so i've got a look i got a little drunk yesterday and i did say i wasn't going to drink till i went to see my wife wherever she may be and the lord of the dance said he and i was like yeah i'm not going to drink babe i drunk get drunken and yeah today i just feel rat ass like i feel awful and so i've convinced myself i've got meningitis because it's going around kent in all the unis i remember my first beer i know that's how it feels but like yeah i don't yeah i don't feel too good today so i went for a nap earlier so sorry why is it not a hangover because you've just been well it is a hangover i've just been miserable i rang anto today because i was like i just wanted to rant about being an artist no yeah and uh hates tones oh i rang anto today check out her new song check out a new song You got the arms and legs You're gonna get it What's her Sorry, what's her artist name?

4:17I know her Instagram name Her artist name is Tonia Okay I call her Anto No one calls her Anto But we just started at college And I just can't start She's behind you She's behind you, Anto, I'm back Ten But I rang her today And I think we just dragged each other down Really? Do you know that one like Where you just kind of like look at it And you're just like So I like got off the phone oh yeah I just felt low I just felt low today I think you've had a big day of big change yeah some good things have happened to you today really good things have happened, the ball is rolling again girls but like do you know when like you've been waiting for a ball to roll for so long that you're almost like you're now tired from waiting and then like now they're like okay go and you're like what?

5:02you're like I don't want to anymore yeah it's like I can't, I'm knackered now Reminds me of being a kid Yeah I'm a bit ran down I just think I'm Yeah a bit ran down And I hope it's not meningitis Because I'll be fuming I think it might be the hangover So do I What were you doing To induce The hangover We were at the pub quiz At the army and navy Little east London girl Yeah Little east London girl With her hair Barn, orange glasses Blonde brunette And then someone came up to me At the end and was like Love's J Diva So if that was you Thank God For that Otherwise it wouldn't have been worth it It would not have been worth it Why did I leave the house?

5:36Yeah. But people do like straight people. It's kind of crazy. I was at Korsika Studios on the weekend. Oh. And many men with moustaches were asking after you. Really? Yeah. Say what? Where's Sue? Is it ting tight? Where's Sue? Really? Where's Sue? And I was like. Like gay men? No, no, no. Straight men.

6:04Really? well uh uh straight present by presenting it's nice it's nice um and i said she doesn't like techno music she wouldn't be seen dead here yeah she wouldn't but but she would really appreciate i'll pass her on maybe i would though i've surprised myself at the places i've been recently um feels like i've been to an opening of tin can recently do you know what i mean i just go anywhere yeah where else have you been fashion week kidding um how'd that go yeah fine i don't at all right time um no i do like going out i actually realized that i've like probably dogged out saying that i go out whereas actually you should keep inviting me to places because occasionally i might come because i'm not i'm not miserable i don't hate clubbing it's just like i wouldn't it's not like my first part of call you went to george riley's thing that was at a club that was fun that was at colors in hoxton colors in hackney wick yeah or yeah in hackney wick yeah it was it was freaking great i had tickets to smoke press because i know jordan didn't go okay because i pussied out because i was meant to go with george riley actually and she cancelled lovey george and then obviously bill was away so he cancelled as well so and you weren't going to go alone yeah and i should have gone because everyone went um and apparently it's amazing do you think you're at the level of fame now so i think where you can't go to places alone because you'll just be swamped.

7:24No, it's not that. What it is, is I don't want to go and make friends there. It's not that I don't want to make friends there, but like to go alone and hopefully see someone that like I like enough to stick around with and then kind of say to them like, can I stick with you? Do you know what I mean? Like I hate that whole thing because I also hate it when I'm with a group of friends and then someone's clearly done that and then they come over to me and I'm like, please don't stay with me. Please the opposite of that Sam Smith song. like please get lost um could you first talk me why you're at the army and navy pub quiz um because i was messaging the wonderful adam warren who is a lovely lovely friend but also a very talented artist creative director something uh yeah he does something and um he was like we're to pub quiz night would you like to go and I was like yeah so I went so it was fun it was fun actually we did have a bit of a giggle it was funny and we came second I contributed one question out of 50 okay because yeah because I actually don't know a lot the things I know I know like razor sharp but the things I don't know like yeah but that's not why you get invited to a pub quiz you get invited to a pub quiz because you're a laugh yeah and I yeah I got quite drunk also drinks just hit me different in the minute certain people you do a pub quiz with and it just suddenly becomes really nasty yeah because it's like people really cared people really cared and if you really care about a pub quiz like well done um just a moment of silence but i do feel like i have i'm adhd'd boots because what actually i did last week was i started taking adhd meds the last time i concerted that i was kindly gifted um and uh adhd meds army and navy meningitis bang bang bang bang bang bang bang um and i i am on like my last couple and i just don't want to give them up and i think i could have just done with an adhd med your last stash yeah yeah you're Like a fucking addict.

9:39I know. I just really don't want this to be a meningitis because I do really like being alive. I am this close to crying. I've got a cry. I think I said last week that I'm like, I've got a cry in my throat. A little lump rising. Oh my God. Yeah, but she ain't rising. Throat closing. But it's going to come. And I'm going to suck. What do you do when - I booked in a FaceTime with Bill tonight. Hopefully he comes in. He'll say, how are you? I'm like, good. You've got to book him in these days. Yeah, bitch is busy. True. My wife busy. He's working. What do you do? When a lump rises up your throat?

10:09Fear that it's a lymph node. I feel like I've got lymphoma, so I have to call the doctor probably. I just swallow, but my throat gets drier. Oh, is it like you're about to cry? It's more tension, I think, than like I'm going to cry. A lump in your throat. You not get that? Sometimes when it's like vocal warm-ups, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I do them every day. I mean, you just gargle some fucking cum. Cum. Okay, so we're not feeling our best Not on top form today I'm actually feeling alright Oh yeah, how are you?

10:46I'm okay I've got a gig this weekend Which I'm very excited for But we're a little behind on preparation Oh, what day? Saturday the 28th of March Okay, I'll come on Multiscreenplay at the George You're not going to like this, Sue Oh, who's playing? No We're on at 11.30 Okay Okay But I think I'm actually working On Sunday So I can't Like working early morning On Sunday What are you working on? Are you allowed to say? There's a One of the big museums I'm doing something with them With Albie I'm doing security Yeah Yeah I started security on Sunday Yeah so I'll be around In certain places And if they see me With a mic Come talk to me What are they meant to do with that?

11:32I don't know. Come talk to me on Sunday. If you see me at the British Library talking through the influence of the British Empire... It's not that. I can't spoil it. You didn't take that gig? No, baby. I told you to take it. No, no, no, no. It would have been good for you.

11:52Yes, I'm feeling... It's gig week. It's gig week. Gig week. And we're a bit behind schedule, but it's going to be great. Yeah. Often when you're a bit behind schedule, you get the best shit. Yeah. Clickety-clack. you're fucking desperate you're writing songs even went like do you ever do that healthy procrastination like i should just be prepping the songs yeah but instead i'm writing new ones not helpful oh see i don't do that really i really don't write songs till i have to but not in a rude way but like once i've done the project i like right now i talk to management they're like we should go and set you should keep you under sessions i'll write the projects written okay like i know eventually i'll pick back up the uh the the piano okay yeah yeah and i'll get back to it but like yeah thinking about writing something new well yes there's um often in songwriting i think there's two schools of thought which is that you have to write all the time uh and that you can't let inspiration come to you you have to go chase it or there's like which i would say is very much your school of thought which is like right when you're ready yeah yeah no and it is that and um but you can just fucking put your pussy into it when you want yeah i'll put my pussy in it when i want and i do want and i've been wanting for so long but today i just couldn't do it today you're doing it later aren't you Yeah I'm going to the studio Straight after this

13:16Why Why does God pick his strongest warriors For his hardest battle I know he wouldn't give me any load That I can't take But God God What is this for And I keep seeing two magpies I'd love for that to kick in Sorry you keep saying what Two magpies Do you Two for joy girl Well at least you're not saying one Because isn't that meant to Technically be bad luck Yeah I'm seeing loads of good luck And I'm like I'd love for that to kick in Maybe get an email From a brand And you want to work with me For 15 ,000 million pounds Or something I could do that too To be honest Yeah I really like that I've been doing so well About not complaining about I know Don't matter Don't matter Don't matter Well I did a I did a Do you know Shoshi?

14:02No On TikTok You're way more Plugged in on TikTok These days than I am Well I did a video Talking about Shoshi and it actually did well today and I'm actually quite surprised. Yay! Because I was slagging her off because she just keeps talking about money. She went viral! But like, everyone's like... I know this is gentle, but like, recently... You know, so is she. Plan B is a backup birth control option that's there for you when things don't go according to plan. It specifically works after unprotected sex and before pregnancy occurs by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is available nationwide at all major retailers and through delivery apps like DoorDash.

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15:24oh yeah I haven't seen her for a while though well she recently popped off again but like she's starting to do like these money mindset things and I actually don't it's really depressing because every one of the videos seems to link back to like money and i know i like bill actually calls me out for a lot and he's like you need to stop like manifesting money and i'm like okay but um he's right like yeah and he's also from teddington yeah yeah um but yeah i know i like i'm a bitch from derby statistically i shouldn't be here like yeah um but he's like but it is so uncomfortable like she talks about it so much like it does get a bit like getting into a money mindset and like she's like I'm finally popping off again so I'm like charging she does like one on one sessions like I don't know she calls like clothing her pieces and she'll order like from fast fashion and then she's like I'm really selective about what I'm getting and she basically orders from a glorified team so I basically said that like and find it very hard to watch her.

16:30Like she stopped being the loving icon that we all know and love. Right. Everything keeps coming back to like money and that actually if you're not making money, it's kind of just feel very like, oh, it feels very like Manosphere Tease. To become so obsessed by money. Is she selling anything? She's obsessed. Yeah. Like her short course, which is 900 pounds. It's like similar to that. Wow. It's crazy. So I just said it was bumming me out and then it's got 5 ,000 likes and everyone's discussing it in the topic, in the comments. And I'm like, what? You said it was bumming you out That she's become so obsessed by money And And now everyone's discussing it In my comments Yeah Like I didn't realise It was gonna get Cause she's a comment I'll get booked She'll block me She just blocks me But Yeah 5 ,000 likes Well it is a bum out But also If the you know If the man is fair Men can do it Why can't the women Yeah no she's right And I'm not trying to Yuck her yum It's just more like I think that I think when something solely becomes about like getting your numbers up for money is crazy like money will come yes we all kind of know that but i think actively talking about it and then complaining when it goes down and as if other people have to do anything about it is weird i think but we both do it at the same time but i don't think we do it in a sense of like i think we complain about like in a normal sense like oh we'd love no more money not like we want more money go click on this and yeah yeah get on join our short course or like do you know what i mean it's not we're trying to take money from other people we're just complaining that in life we'd love more money as everyone here would agree we'd all love no we're getting mad at the world at the world we're just complaining maybe the PR girl isn't it yeah but like we're not asking them to like no we're not asking so she is introducing ways for her to make money and then getting mad that people aren't doing it do you see what I'm saying yeah yeah so yeah whereas we're getting mad at brand managers the world Oh, the world, yeah.

18:26Okay, well, go check out Sue I Think's TikTok. Hi, I'm Sue I Think. I'm a meningitis patient and I'm joking, I'm not. It's not funny to joke about meningitis, but I am scared. Not funny at all? No, it's not. I thought I had it as a kid, but I didn't. And then I texted my mum, have I had meningitis? And then she was texting me like, are you aching? Are you in trouble? Do you feel ill? And I was like, no, I feel fine. But it still didn't stop you from becoming a hypochondriac? I am a hypochondriac. I'm not a hypochondriac when I've got things on and like and particularly my boyfriend said to listen to my little concerns before they blow up big but like if I've got a whole day to convince myself I've got meningitis girl I'll take the opportunity might be better tomorrow but check out So I Think's TikTok and maybe think about coming to the George Tavern this Saturday might see you there in the ecosphere yeah this week we had Saturday day night live night live united kingdom yeah uh what did you think jack shepp carried yeah jack shepp's actually always has to come on this pod and we've just like yeah yeah but now we're actually gonna be at jack shepp store like jack you're gonna have to come on my love yeah multiple times shit sorry jack jack we love you i guess it's time i guess it's about time you game on yeah um it is like i feel really just like gas for her like i don't know that well we have mutual friends and like we met multiple times i actually did find the video of um us djing with her and she was taken over so she played charlotte cx room room and it's just gets on the mic she's like hey faggot it's so good it's so good um but she's been who took that video on my phone it's of me i love my wife yeah jack shep dj'd i love my wife she ate it up to be fair two yeah and she did eat it up um but yeah what the fuck literally like carried the whole thing she was in everything she's so funny i wonder like i really hope she becomes like everything she wants and then i was also confused by i mean maybe it'll just be the case of like this was jack's episode yeah well that's what i was thinking i was like jack now go to like the back or they're like or is this just how it's gonna be i don't know well our lashes pretty quiet which kind of surprised me yeah and what a lot of them were quiet yeah a lot of them um don't know what to say i have enjoyed the like kind of um i don't know hysteria surrounding it so there was like i don't know if you saw the vice article that was like before it came out there was a vice article it's like vice is still going yeah i thought he went bankrupt it's exactly what everyone's like well it's been like rumored to be going bankrupt like it's that idea yeah exactly yeah um but they did an article like 25 reasons snl uk will probably be shit yeah and what happened was is that it actually was a massive godsend for snl because like it made everyone want it to do well she actually did in tina faye's monologue where she said like yeah you're british you all just want to hate things for no reason it was like she ate us up do you know what i mean she actually did eat us up like it is true like why don't we just be like when something's happening why can't we just be like yeah that could be fun instead we're like that's gonna be shit i really really enjoyed it i didn't i haven't watched the last two i haven't watched the hamlet uh sequence yet it's good yeah my favorite one was the baby shy baby so fucking funny that was the best so fucking funny i thought the kirstimer one was not great so my only thing is and i don't want to hate on that person but the person that's played kia and then also played david attenborough so this is funny so the millennials in the in my life i've spoken to they loved him but i just didn't because i felt like his humor was like he's definitely needed to carry the narrative and so obviously like he's very good and very talented but his humor feels a bit old like you know like i'm from the jack shepherd the world so i get to the punch side kiki kaka bam bam bam and like i felt like yeah i felt like his i brought the jackstep of the world you know i was like kiki kaka bang bang bang bang whereas it's like i felt like he was like the kia stormer one like that wasn't a good way to open the app in my opinion it was just a bit slow so slow and then david attenborough one too like he just really takes his time i'm like bitch speed it up girl david attenborough one speed it up was it started well I don't know why he was doing that with his arms I don't know why that gay was Freddie Mercury No Hardly any of them spoke in it It was just Jack Shett Oh god she's so good He did have The guy you're talking about He did have a really good One of the last sketches Oh really Was like this weird sketch called What kind of Irish is your dad And it was him doing Weird impressions of different irish dads and it was actually hilarious amazing okay i'll keep on watching and it's not that he's bad he's incredibly talented that was the thing it wasn't i found it bad i just found that like he's clearly there to put the narrative in place and i'm just like gag me out girl gag me out where's the gag yeah and i think that like so everyone at the pub yesterday was like oh no i thought he was the best there whereas i was like princess diana yeah i mean he actually like almost i don't know I think a lot of them are trained as actors But he felt like a proper actor He was really Performing Whereas when you looked at the kind of I think he is a proper actor though Because I was with some actors last night And they were like oh he's my friend And I was like Sorry the guy you're talking about are Jack Shep No the guy you're talking about I mean Jack Shep's a proper actor For sure But the news report thing I was just like What was going on there I thought it was funny But them laughing at their own jokes made me sick It was like they were told to do it.

24:21Which was like, every time she says something, I was like, girl, say the joke and go. And it's a shame because they're both, well, they're both hilarious and they'll both go on to do great things in this series and otherwise. But I almost wonder if, it felt like they were told to. They were going really, I think they should just be drier. Yeah, for sure. The only thing I didn't like was, I think the monologue's just so American, it actually doesn't work. I think like the fake laughter I know it's not fake laughter but the laughter after everything felt like I was watching that's our even I think that's the thing that needs to kind of like change yeah do you know what I mean I think that's the stuff that needs to like almost the American bits were the worst bits about it do you know what I mean I loved it though I can't wait for more I really hope Al Nash gets more to the front because obviously we know he's so funny and it's I feel like as as represented by the reaction to it which is like like nobody nobody wants to slag it off yeah because everyone or nobody in like uk comedy wants to slag it off because they feel like grateful it's happening and it's like even if like they're jealous maybe deep down yeah and like i can see that some people are posting videos like so amazing snl uk absolutely brilliant so you auditioned yeah so you auditioned in it like yeah i think that's also the thing i think everyone's like yeah it's really good like also it's a great gig like do you know i mean if you got offered it like work my friend my friend lola was like check on your uh british micro celebrity comedian friends right now because they're all secretly uh secretly dying we didn't get hit when they're claiming that snl is doing really well we didn't get hit up no we didn't get hit up i think um fuck y 'all as we spoke about with toby yeah yeah our clout wasn't big enough i think yeah i think when they were searching also i mean i would do it I was gonna be like I wouldn't do it So we don't really do much Sketch comedy For a check I would Wake it up Yeah Me acting Wake it up I could do it Yeah so But we don't do much of it On our social media Which is why they've picked Yeah yeah Others But Yeah I think it's interesting That point you touched on Where it's like Why The kind of Is it that It's an American comedy show That Let's be honest People most people from uk don't like it's weird that it's kind of like i mean it's a good concept like saturday night late night comedy like saturday night takeaways back whatever that's cool yes but it's it is weird that it's snl because that has typically not translated to a british audience or is it that just like yeah what you're saying where it's like any time we try and do something big yeah grandiose especially in comedy people fuck it it's like uh the thing is i hope the reason this feels exciting to me is less so about saturday night live it's more that like okay for this future generation could like there could be a t4 do you know what i mean like i feel like it's really exciting that like there's now been a space on tv for the people that we know and love if you don't know everyone i don't know everyone on the cast but i know jack shepp and i know el nash and like i don't know i know like that but i know josh but like i know of certain people and they get on it's like it's really exciting that like hopefully this will open the door for like more long-form content and also like the future of tv i hope it does well so that like people keep watching i know it's on like streaming everyone's watching on streaming but i think ultimately like there could be a morning show that people could start was that we have to be up for i would like to be the person i want to be makita oliver but with personality like i were like and without makita oliver is back with uh rizzle kicks guy what did they say louis sent me this guy me and louis are not nice to each other and we'll just send people and make fun of him what did he say oh i love the smell of freshly cut grass but i recently learned that it's like the smell emitted by grass when it's stressed When it's in pain Jordan girl Give it up Have a day off I love you And I love you girlfriend Please When the grass was in pain He's so sweet I think I'd genuinely rather H.S.

28:42Tekki-Tokki The grass was in pain I wouldn't I wouldn't But yeah I just think they should launch a T4 And we should be on it They should launch a T4 Lamar from afar Yeah What else is they doing on T4? They should launch T4 I would be big into that They should do We should have just normal sketch shows T4 was on T4 Who? My wife She was interviewed by Makita Really? Mm-hmm Wow I know Would it be Simon Amstel? Yeah, like kind of fine Simon Amstel doesn't move me like that I used to be Which one's Simon Amstel? Obsessed I used to do Nevermind the Buzzcocks Is he I met him the same night I met your brother really yeah he does stand up now it's okay he's he's prided himself on being less of a no not wait but we should do t4 we should commission a normal sketch show like not in front of a live audience not reading off teleprompters sorry i would love a sketch show why why why are they reading off teleprompters?

29:51I was thinking of Rick Edwards. Oh, well. I met him the same night I met your brother. Yeah. Even though I had no idea who he was until he left in a car and everyone was like, do you know who that was? And I was like, no. Yeah, T4. T4. T4 Hunk. And now BBC. He was talking about being on BBC. Why is it so good to do it live and then read off a teleprompter? Why don't we just... Not do it live. It could easily not be live because it's on streaming. I didn't watch it live. And then we don't have to have the kind of laughter. But I think that's the thing, isn't it? It's live. I would love like, I know Nevermind the Bobscocks is back, but like, who's on it?

30:29Not us. We should be on it. Imagine Straight Deva making you Harry's in Nevermind the Bobscocks. That'd be funny. That'd be sick. That'd be funny. But all in all, we need an agent. All in all, a win for gay people. British comedy. For Jack Shep. A win for Jack Shep. And a win for Jack Shep is a win for us And whoever wrote the baby sketch Jack Shep probably Really? Do you think it's just like I know there's writers The writer probably listens to this podcast Yeah, we love you Sorry, what were you going to say? Do you ever think it's like how many things Is it like does Jack Shep just take loads of shit to the right Like did Jack Shep come on The shy baby gave Jack Shep down I feel like that's something that Jack Shep would do Yeah, I don't know And like do they audition different members for roles Exactly, I don't know And another thing I was thinking was like there was clearly quite a variety uh in how funny i found different sketches yeah how often does someone get a sketch or a script and then have to go like i have to change this or it's not going to be not for me yeah like how much of the talent is you changing the script where you see necessary yeah exactly and i wonder how much that goes on i hope it sticks on and i hope it comes out legacy yeah it'd be interesting i'm already excited for like season one to finish and then who gets dropped i'm already i can't wait to see or like someone like or someone's like oh yeah i'm going on tour and you're like you got dropped i can't wait for that bit is that so messy just to see who makes it through exactly the same thing because there could be a twist like jack might leave like don't know just never know do you but it's nice to see a new wave of like and i'm gonna gag it that aren't just i know a lot of them are like tiktokers but they're like sketch tiktok it's nice to see them come into the limelight instead of it being like influencers who now turn to journalists do you know i mean it's nice to see that they're like sketch people and kind of influencers are now moving into like acting spaces it's nice do you know what i mean instead of like the classic thing of like doing film junkets for like the latest blockbuster and it's all just influencers do you know i mean it's nice to see that this is an avenue in which people could go I think it's nice to see.

32:46For sure. And that there are a nice mix of ages. I think Anja Maliano is 27 or something. Jack is 27, I think. Anja is 52. Kidding. Kidding. Yeah. But yeah, a win all around. Elsewhere. Chapel. Yeah, what do we have to say about this? What do we have to say about Chapel Roan? Wait. I would have gagged out the kid. People would be like, poor child. I'm like, Nepo, Nepo child won't leave you alone. And then I think the only thing that really bothered me about this thing was the mum's six minute video talking about how a child meant no harm and she's around loads of famous people. Just because that is Jude Law's kid.

33:37And like, you now go out with a footballer. I'm like just because Your kid can still be jarring If not probably more jarring Than ever Right And also famously Louis is thinking whether he can take shots at another law So we'll see what Louis has got to say about it right now Well I was just going to say That she didn't even Seemingly respond to the kid It's all based off A security guard Which supposedly who didn't even work for her. Yeah, he just said like, don't go up to her. It could have just been a random man that just saw Chaplin without leaving her out. I do just, I don't know. It's just, it's one of those stories that just feels so stupid in many ways.

34:25I'm currently looking - Is that Iris Law? That's Iris Law. Her godmother's Kate Moss. Her godmother's Kate, her godmother is Kate Moss. Her brother's godfather is Nick Grimshaw. She dated Trent Alexander-Arnold, who Sir Alex Ferguson once dated Trent Alexander-Arnold's grandmother. What we're looking at is an image courtesy of the Daily Mail, which is basically a family tree of how much Jude Law has shagged over the last 20 years. The guy's got seven kids. So who's the one that got shouted at by Chapel? Ada. Okay. And that's Catherine Harding. That's Catherine Harding's daughter. Have you looked at her Instagram?

35:08I'm not taking shots at Catherine But like Sounds like you are But no But she's She goes out with That football It's just her And then occasionally She'd just start a video And she'd just be singing Sinking Singing Oh She'd be like It's so stupid But is she She's just like An Instagram girl I guess Oh that's nice Yeah I don't know I guess I do I feel like Chapel Rowan Maybe has a bit of a target On her back at the moment I think there's also The thing I think a lot of like the lesbians that I follow have been saying this is just like another way of misogyny like yeah then getting banned by I think the mayor of Brazil or something like that from performing oh my god it's crazy like she didn't even get like a chance to speak for herself I do think it is like yeah I just think yeah I think she's just got a target on her back at the minute and I think everyone just needs to and not everyone's I mean she didn't even do anything wrong here what happened to the world where like if a celebrity was rude to you just like they're a bit of a cunt yeah do you know what I mean like if Chappell was like Chappell didn't even say anything to your kid but like then going online and taking it online with your successful footballer husband is crazy Jack and Jude Laws would be like for fuck sake my ex is doing one again so good so good so good new markdowns up to 70 % off are at Nordstrom Rack stores now stock up and stay big on shoes tops dresses accessories and more must-haves for summer join the Nordiclub to unlock exclusive discounts shop new arrivals first and more Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free.

36:41Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the Unreal College Deal. Everything you need to study and play with select Windows 11 PCs. eligible students get a year of microsoft 365 premium and a year of xbox game pass ultimate with a custom color xbox wireless controller learn more at windows.com student offer while supplies last ends june 30th terms at aka.ms college pc jude law's probably fucking just annoyed about this fucking venn diagram coming out of this family tree of his it's quite good oh so how many kids has he got seven seven kids seven kids this is a high value male this is a guy that believes in one-way monogamy this is a guy that likes east london creative things with a bun and fucking like orange sunglasses iris will probably see this video as a cut down and be like would he just leave me and my family alone well nobody did anything wrong yeah nobody did anything wrong nobody did anything wrong apart from this bodyguard by the sounds of it yeah um and yet again the working class are getting blamed for the upper classes just messing around shit yeah um so thoughts and prayers with the bodyguard right now who's probably been given the sack um thoughts and prayers with uh ada who just wanted to meet her childhood hero thoughts and prayers of chapel rhone who's just you know doesn't trying to get by trying to get by clearly doesn't really like the this side of being famous um and thoughts and prayers with jude law who is you know just shagging for fun shagging and receding girl as he should yeah although of all the receders wears it pretty well just get rid though shave it off really bold Jude Law I think he looks good receding I think he looks good good I mean he's just lang I don't know if the hair looks lang but he's gorgeous but yeah we could probably make some try and make some weird comment about you know how chapel rhone is like an example of surveillance capitalism or like the panopticon but pan i just think your pan your pan i just think um everyone needs to chill out and then have you seen lewis capaldi went for a photo with them straight after is that what this is yeah he's probably shitting it he probably went down for dinner like shit It's you lot Poor Lewis Capaldi What's happening in Brazil?

39:21Lollapalooza Oh wow Are there going to be 3 million people there or something? Yeah I mean did you see Chapel performing? No It's amazing They're just singing it for her it's crazy Good for Chapel God what have you done? So we have a couple of agony answers with you I have one question left over from last week oh yeah oh actually I wanted to ask you something yeah so in how big is it get me in East London News this week yeah the pub the Kenton yes has banned kids has banned kids fierce and I wanted to get your thoughts on it good for them kids in pubs also the Kenton's not an amazing pub like no shade yeah like it's around the corner from us why are you taking your kids there yeah like kenton is not a pub that i'd be like oh do you know what i'm gonna take tilda and tilda and maxim bonty yeah no they wouldn't that's too obviously posh yeah till it tilda and matthew or something yeah margo yeah margo there like the kenton's not giving the kenton gives that yeah i went to that's a koki that's a koki pub for sure Like that's a Koki pub Like you don't want your kids there Like love the kids Similarly and not similarly I went to Hill Station Cafe No The one in New Cross On Telegraph Hill Yeah yeah yeah The pizza place Yeah Ridden with kids Yeah yeah yeah Ridden with kids I had no idea I should have known Because it's such a nice area Yeah Telegraph Hill But we're family So family based Yeah yeah yeah And I kind of That's my only Why were you there?

41:04Because my friends live nearby okay i still live there yeah you do i love new cross it's good pizza really really i never went yeah um that's my only counter is that hackney is now an area where these people have these people came here for better or for worse yeah and now they're having families yeah and this area has now become it's not hackney is like this area that's like you go out and it's party and it's trendy and it's cool. It's still slightly true, but it's definitely also true that like a lot of these people, the gentrifiers, have kids here now. They have young kids. I think there's just certain pubs that are like for kids, like the gastro pubs that want to serve food.

41:53I think the Kenton's not one of them. I think there's loads on here that I don't like. Yeah. I could name them. Like, I don't think you take kids to pub on the park. No You wouldn't take him to Chesham You wouldn't take him to The army and navy Yeah you wouldn't take him to the army maybe You wouldn't Imagine taking your kid to the army and navy Grow up That's what I mean you just wouldn't There's like certain ones You wouldn't take your kids to Shackwell Arms Do you know what I mean I think if I had a partner I'm going to take my kid to the George Tavern Why why go home like just also the time that pubs kids are going to be taken to pubs is like the weekend take them to like Broadway market and go sit with like do you know what I mean go sit in the park and have like a Fujita yeah do you know what I mean no I agree I think but I often think I kind of lean on the side of like ew kids get them away yeah same they just don't need to be there they just don't need to be there I like the statement where it's like obnoxious kids whatever they called them like it was just like they just came for the kids I didn't see that it was like it wasn't just we banned your kids because they're like disruptive it was like we banned like oh the Kenton yeah so like obnoxious kids or whatever I think obnoxious fantastic yeah good for them good for the Kenton shout out to the Kenton I think honestly it's probably the best bit of press I've had for years as Chapel Rowan said fuck them kids fuck them kids you wouldn't take them to the Spursto you wouldn't take kids to the Spursto no and if you did but you would but they would Spursto is one that like I think they would start doing that.

43:34Spur's Toe is that weird middle ground that people were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I took Tilda, yeah. I wouldn't take myself to the Spur's Toe unless it was a Tuesday night. Maybe I'll go there tonight. Huh? Maybe I'll go there tonight. The pizza. Fantastic. No, you're going to the best pub in London tonight, but don't say it. Oi, get me. You get me. Okay. We had a question from someone I can't remember the name of last week from our WhatsApp chat. Sue, I think, what's the craziest date you've ever been on? Ooh, crazy as in, crazy, the first, my first awful boyfriend. In retrospect. It could be positive or negative.

44:22Well, I was like, when I moved to London, I started dating so many people. And it was like one date. It was like a date every Saturday night. I was never going to meet anyone again. then occasionally do stuff. Most of the time wouldn't, would just kind of leave kind of thing. My first date with this guy, I'd like just start transitioning. He came to meet me after work, came to meet me after work and then like came around my house, didn't leave for four days. I think that's pretty crazy. And then essentially just like, nothing beats a man with no money. Nothing will make a man fall in love with you more than a man with no, having no money.

44:57Baby, I lived it. You were all here. But on my date, I think, oh God, you go first. Let me have a think. Okay. So this is a no contest for me. Okay. It's first place and second isn't even close. Yeah. So I was dating this girl two years ago. Yeah. And we went on two dates and they were really fun. And then she was like, kind of random. Yeah. But I'm going to visit my friend in your favorite place in the world, Berlin. Yeah. Do you want to come with me? And I was like, whoa, okay, fun. And then I'm like, fuck it. Yeah, that sounds really fun. I was kind of six months out of a breakup. So you were on like...

45:50I was kind of like, fuck it. The fifth stage of grief. Yeah. Go wild. Yeah. Fourth stage of grief. Go fucking nuts. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. anyway so i was like yeah i'm down but um before we go like you should probably know that like i i am like seeing other people yeah like i feel like you should know that before we go to bed she then um doesn't respond well to that and then um is this on the day this is no no no this is a second day okay and we're talking about it we go to bed we wake up the next day she's like i'm sorry that was like way over the top. Like you can totally see other people. That's fine.

46:30Anyway, we, and then she like, she's like, I'll see other people too. Yeah. Anyway, so we go to Berlin and you know, two weeks later or something. That's crazy girl. And then we go to a club and we're with a friend and it's all fun. And then we go to the bathroom together. Oh, we lost a light. We go to the bathroom together. Yeah. and after she's just fed me some goodies um she then says i tried seeing other people i can't do it will you be my boyfriend just after she said me the good anyway and then i'm like um can i think about it i can see your face i think you do that thing that you do where you're like kind of like you do like a really like ghastly laugh where you're like yeah it's like a very like yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and then um and then i'm like kind of think about it and she's like that's not really what i wanted to hear i was like no i get that but um anyway i'm like let's go dance yeah we're going dance then two hours later i'm like sorry it wasn't boyfriend girlfriend it was exclusive those ones and then two hours passed I'm flying I'm like fuck it let's do it but no regrets and like honestly one of the best days of my life so when did you break up when did you go on exclusive the minute you got home oh yeah about that can you not sit with me on the flight please no we were exclusive exclusive for about two months yeah and then it ended Okay nice That's a good whack though Good for you It was fun She's definitely not listening She blocks me on all Social media Weird days There's so many Like Also a lot of them Are quite dark I'm like I do want to hear about What you were doing During these four days Yeah It's interesting So we got drunk The first night The thing is With that guy Who notoriously Was just like With a bunch of trannies And was with so many before me did the classic like where the abuse started it was like very much like you are you are you are the only like trans person for me and then eventually that gets like weaponized like this happens a lot in like domestic abuse cases uh where basically they'll like single you out for something that you do whether you're like a different weight to them or like a different like a race to them or like a different sexual orientation or gender and then they be like eventually they can use it as like a weapon but at first it's kind of like a way to kind of like um manipulate you you're the only trans person i've been with but you're so beautiful right kind of things like that sorry and now if someone did that to me i'm like suck my dong babe sorry sorry how does it you were talking about they're like that you're in the ways they point out ways in which they're different to you or something like you said you said about different weight or something did you no no for example like that's there's different ways that this can right right so it could be like someone could be like you're the first like skinny girl i've been with right right right right like black girl i've been with like and then and then eventually so at first that's kind of like this like but i love it like you're amazing you're adventurous and then eventually they can then twist that later on and be like you should be so fucking lucky i'm with you turns out it wasn't he was sucking dick and cock of every trans girl in east london so he so he comes around my house we get a bit drunk and so like he's like this like very straight presenting man oh just such he's just like such a it just drains my life for something to think about it but he yeah he came around my house and so we end up kissing then we just end up like we go out and i remember we go around bermondsey and we have a good time but yeah it was like i think i finished work on the first day and like he was still at my house on he i left him at my house on the monday and to let himself out did he leave it no i came back on the monday and i was like okay i need to like but i was like oh my god we're just so in love we just met my like life like partner whereas it's just i just didn't like to go home because he was like i don't even he could have been another girl's house before do you know i mean he could have just been living at someone else's he could have been homeless he like most likely was but that was your first time experiencing that so you were so i genuinely i'm this close to writing an ep about it and like like name of the ep his name i can't tell you like and i know someone's probably just like girl this bitch needs to let it go i can't tell you how badly this person fucked with me it felt like i was on a girl on the train like i really like this person there was there's levels to how this person fucks fucked me up and then like i think back to and even explaining that i was like fuck he got me good girl and i'd love to either write a book maybe i'll write a sub stack about it did you ever see him after the four days the last time i saw him the only time i've seen him in real life was with you when we were doing the days yeah wow and that was louis louis saw how i got after that i get weird about it i'm like he scares the shit out of me ruin my life i thought you handled it pretty well thank you inside i wanted to die really yeah But one day Would you guys want to hear that Is that something that you want to hear I want to hear that I really want to write an EP about it And then just name it his name Because I just don't give a fuck Very short Intense Crazy romance But the gag is He's dating a girl That's also known on the internet No So The one who was with him that day Yeah I'd be dogging her out And I like her At the trans rights protests No less Yeah Obviously He's still on the Chinese I was shooting content Yeah and supporting yeah um so yeah there you are so probably that that was probably like the weirdest date because it just never ended and then it was just a year of hell uh yeah but think of the story yeah or think of how you could monetize this the Oxford doctor who I went and he was like a doctor of I thought it was like a doctor like sexy like doctor doctor doctor meat and he was a doctor of um bugs and ants and and I took him back to my house and James was watching that those people that like I'm gonna hike a straight line through Ireland and they just do like a straight line and we were just sat there and I think James was like why is she putting this person back to my house crazy shout out to you James yeah I love you James oh

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56:29um look you can't you can't um how do i say it like you can't just create you're either born with the effeminate gene yeah or you don't have it you can't and you can never he's a bitch that parts of your bitch that shit yeah um but look it's good for you to have separate things like you know yeah um pop culture gf and history loving bf wake it up and you tolerate each other's shit um and maybe you just kind of slowly but surely you i think with like with everything like this you can't push it too much you know yeah he's got to find it at his own pace and um in all seriousness um we appreciate both of your support however proud or embarrassed it is and I hope you tell him that that was you writing in the question and I hope he laughs yeah and I hope that was kind of and I hope because he probably you know what now he's had a little bit of a roast yeah he's probably like let your hair down girl enjoy it Kinnell you're welcome here and keep earning that money and finance please please you've been watching Straight Diva yeah you have been watching and I love you or you've been listening to Straight Diva and I love you and I love you bye and I love you and I love you bye

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