su gets woke about kate king, pride, schadenfreude, new music

2 Jul 2026 · 1 h 3 min · 23 chapters

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In short

Pride month banter and “straight dystopia” (dystopian takes on straightness), plus discussion of Kate King and AI “slop,” ADHD stereotypes, porn/OnlyFans boundaries, and a “Bad Things I Enjoy” segment (schadenfreude, minor petty habits).

Guests

No named guests appear; it’s a two-host episode (Louis and Sophie are referenced).

Guest backgrounds

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Key claims

Kate King’s “I’m 27, I can do what I want” response to AI criticism is framed as representing a “silent majority” and an unhelpful attitude toward feedback. ADHD online “boyfriend” slides are treated as partly excuse-making but also as sometimes accurate symptom descriptions. Porn is argued as not inherently cheating/harmful unless it affects sex life or becomes compulsive; Instagram/OnlyFans is tolerated if the creator is “unattainable.”

Notable examples

A&E visit for “minor injuries,” tofu vegan Shoreditch lunch (fried green beans), Margate trip with “older boys from the Bowls Club,” references to Phoebe Bridgers/“Lost Boys,” and “Bad Things I Enjoy” examples like laughing at hate comments, wanking to porn, and schadenfreude.

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Chapters

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Reflections on Pride Month

2:07 to 3:19

Discuss the feelings and guilt associated with bisexuality during Pride Month.

Vivid Anecdotes of Past Experiences

3:20 to 3:53

Share humorous and vivid stories about intimate experiences.

Recent Adventures and Personal Updates

3:54 to 6:15

Talk about recent events, a visit to A&E, and personal life updates.

Exploring Vegan Food and Lifestyle

6:16 to 7:19

Discuss experiences with vegan food and the struggles of dietary changes.

“The lovely person I'm seeing at the moment is a vegan...”

Navigating Dietary Choices and Health

7:20 to 9:37

Delve into the impact of dietary choices on health and lifestyle.

Reflections on Alcohol and Sobriety

9:38 to 11:30

Examine thoughts on sobriety and the relationship with alcohol.

Weekend Adventures and Bristol Experiences

11:31 to 14:00

Share experiences from a weekend trip to Bristol and the local culture.

“And then eventually, maybe in August or whenever the fuck, I'll start drinking again and it'll go back into the cycle.”

Bristol Gigs and Local Culture

14:00 to 16:40

Discussing experiences at gigs in Bristol and the local music scene.

“Oh yeah, I actually saw a fan at the gig that I went to.”

Thoughts on New Music

16:40 to 16:51

Sharing opinions on recent music releases, including Phoebe Bridgers.

“And I've been listening to it, but like wink, wink is fucking amazing.”

Music Trends and Reactions

17:09 to 21:40

Reacting to various new artists and trends in music.

“Check responses set up required compatibility and availability varies 18+.”
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Discussion on Kate King

21:40 to 28:00

Exploring the public perception and recent actions of Kate King.

“Yeah, I mean, good for Boobie Doobie, by the way.”

Critique of Kate King's Public Persona

28:00 to 29:16

Discussion on Kate King's response to criticism and comparison to pop culture figures.

Comparisons with Princess Diana

29:16 to 31:08

Exploration of Kate King's relevance and her connections to Princess Diana.

“She would go out with Freddie Mercury secretly in like drag.”

Reflections on Kate King's Content

31:08 to 32:28

Discussion about Kate King's content style and her recent trip to Margate.

“that posts videos about her day-to-day life.”

The Rest of Entertainment and Politics

32:28 to 35:43

Conversation about the naming of political and entertainment content.

“that The Rest of Entertainment does like The Rest of Politics and The Rest is whatever the fuck.”

Understanding ADHD and Relationships

36:21 to 42:05

Exploration of ADHD behaviors in relationships and societal perceptions.

“If he puts things inside a drawer, his brain forgets they exist.”

Understanding ADHD and Its Symptoms

42:05 to 43:54

Dive into the discussion about ADHD symptoms and perceptions, particularly hyper focus.

“He'll know if he's got ADHD what his things are.”

Bad Things I Enjoy Segment Introduction

43:54 to 46:04

Introduction to a humorous segment about bad habits and guilty pleasures.

“So I've got a list of bad things I enjoy.”

Confessions of Bad Habits

46:04 to 48:24

Exploring various bad habits and guilty pleasures, from recycling to binge-eating.

“New potatoes and a lovely buttery sauce.”

Exploring Relationship Drama and Betrayal

48:24 to 53:30

A listener's relationship issue involving betrayal among friends and exes is discussed.

“So like, and I think you're amazing and you got a song called like Upstairs, which is absolutely brilliant.”

Analyzing Relationship Dynamics

54:35 to 56:00

Further analysis of the listener's relationship issues and the complexities of polyamory.

“Me confiding in you the week after and you fucking Bill.”

Navigating Friendships and Ex-Partners

56:00 to 59:35

Exploring the complexities of friendships when ex-partners are involved.

“But like, they feel annoyed that Tatiana...”

Discussing Partner Preferences and Boundaries

59:35 to 1:06:29

Discussing how to voice concerns about friends' partners while maintaining boundaries.

“I would say it's unfair what's happened for sure, but you need to firstly, yeah, say something so you can get it off your chest.”
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0:36Great brands, great prices That's why you rack Notice that you look a bit Karma It was awful I didn't see it Yeah and everyone clapped at the end It was just horrible Not hating though Straight dystopia Straight dystopia Welcome to Straight Diva Welcome to Straight Diva End of Pride Month The guilt of a bisexual The guilt of a bisexual The blissful ignorance of a straight the head tilt and nod of a brand we see you queen the cynicism of a gay the scoff of a doll the beauty of a brick the unused social sciences degree of an enby the stench of my dick happy pride month happy pride month happy pride day stench of your dick wow I couldn't think of anything else girls have we ever gone down on someone and it just hit the back of your throat and it was minging I remember I used to suck off this guy and I sucked him off once and it went to the back of my throat and I've genuinely never tasted a cocktail quite like it what did it taste like?

1:41like it was like it was like hoppy it's like I imagine because I don't go to church do you know when they give you your daily bread like if one of those daily bread biscuits just go to the back of your throat and stay there I thought you were going to go a different route when you said I've never been to church it's like a priest's smeggy cock No It tastes like the daily bread Oh it's rank Wash your bell ends girls You broke bread that day God damn Oh honey I swallowed bread that day It's funny how After that Like literally last week I was like I need to stop being rude But here we are But when you said rude I thought you meant like Nasty No I meant like Rude as in filthy Yeah Well It's what we did best So yeah so and that's fine uh how are you i'm good how are you yeah really good yeah yeah great any um like stuff to tell anyone or my wife is we're in a &e this morning this is a bit of a later episode it's actually 3 22 p.m which is quite quite rogue for us i fear um but i took my adhd med at 1 p.m so i probably won't sleep tonight but i was like oh my god but um yeah i had to take my wife to a and a we went together because she's another sexual injury another sexual injury i got off topic this time yeah which i don't actually think i've told on main account so get over to patreon if you want to find out how sex sent me to the er um oh yeah what did we talk about in last week's patreon episode patreon ep last week we spoke about cancellation yeah cancel culture through the lens of donnie's donners closing yes and i won't be talking about donnie's anymore not on main yeah sorry lads that's done now um it's not our fault it's not our fault it's not our fault three times in front of the mirror okay how was a and e any sort of um it was do you know what taylor swift taylor swift it was really quick we so we called up 111 and she was like you can either go to homerton and do any of everyone or if you've got like what is it called like small injuries or something like um small penises small yeah yeah for tucked girls no it was or you could go tost bartholomew's for there's a category of like right so it wouldn't be the same minor injuries that's it minor injuries so then i go there it'll be quicker babe saw in a jiffy it was so quick yeah bill got noticed by the guy on the front desk no way he was like bill milner are you actor are you an eye boy yeah and then but bill bill was in a chair and i was obviously pushing it because i'm fierce and like such caring partner um and bill was in a chair and like after the encounter bill was like you should have started wheeling away but i stopped because i loved it i was like so bill was like right in front and bill was like wheel could you ever see yourself working in care pushing an old lady in a chair no eminem

4:44um could i see myself working in care pushing an old lady in the chair do it till i because i do an impression of share oh girl um no i just don't care that much sorry i can't stop thinking of the the rhyme that's an awfully hot coffee pot m &m freestyle videos i used to watch when i was growing up don't worry guys don't worry guys you didn't get it you didn't catch the reference you you don't get it um but yeah so we were there it was fun and then we got a tofu vegan for lunch which is really nice oh i love tofu vegan no have you had it i've had it it's so tasty uh which one were you at though we got takeaway to here yeah because jess jessica barden told us that it was her best takeaway in london and we were like fuck off jess because also it's vegan and like not to be rude but like famously i was vegan for years vegan food's quite shit and then we got it one night and it is actually phenomenal tofu vegan is incredible it's so tasty oh the fried deep fried aubergine i think no we got um the chicken fake chicken poppers things like the salt and pepper chicken uh we also got the chips and we got the fried green beans have you had those fried green beans no do you want to try them right now yeah i'd love to they once let me when i worked at a record label and the record label was trying to be a social media company we would like interview our artists yeah to like try and platform them for audio listeners Louis is about to try the fried green beans from Tofu Vegan and Tofu Vegan let us eat in there for free just for an Instagram interview which was so sweet and they were so nice so shout out shout out Tofu Vegan Shoreditch yeah and I'm about to try your green beans oh yeah fuck I mean they're caked in oil but yeah oh yeah it's oil like you're coming away like oiled up honey That's how Chinese restaurants make money, is on the veg dishes.

6:36The veg dish is always like 12 quid. But they're good. Speaking of vegan food... Yeah. Are you done with this now? Yeah, thanks. Okay. The lovely person I'm seeing at the moment is a vegan... Louis is actually seeing someone, guys. She's off the streets, your honour. That's all we're going to say at this point, because... And they... I don't want to spoil the film. They. They. And they have a non-binary name Yeah they actually do But they are vegan And I'm really struggling Oh they are vegan In some ways it's rubbing off on me We should all go to Sophie Vegan then I should Sorry we should, you said we should all go But that's okay, if you don't want to go on the double date it's fine No we're already planning our double date to a A spa hotel which we've been invited to Yeah So if you're listening Them them can't remember what the lovely lady's name is from the spa but very special episode coming yeah from a spa hopefully uh anyway if not didn't want to go anyway kidding trying to be convinced that vegan ham isn't shit not gonna work on me vegan ham is shit okay so i was vegan for so many years were you yeah i still have vegan butter i still have that because i like the fake butter taste well but that's i thought that was because you were a bit weird with your lactose no no this is all to do with that eating disorder i was just really skinny and the way that i could cut pounds was i was working in a cafe and being vegan so when i was in this cafe i didn't have any of the like cakes from the cafe for like maybe four years three years and then i started eating them and eating that at the banana bread and stuff no no the banana bread was vegan but it wasn't gluten free yeah didn't you think disorder it was like um i was so out of control with my life that if i control my eating i felt like i was in control so i was vegan gluten-free soy free and something else yeah that's why i had a spiralizer doing courgette spaghetti all the time i'd make vegan spag bol god i'd make laura come around and eat this like every thursday it was so funny and then i'd put it on courgette it was just like a soggy biscuit just dreadful but you so i was like sugar free and everything i was honestly so thin but like it was just like a way that i could have control of my life and then when i decided to like be nice to myself i started eating everything again well fuck yeah hang on but when we when we were first friends you weren't you wouldn't eat any dairy and i swear it was because you were like i can't have i can't have cheese on my pizza or like if i have yeah if i have pizza like yes but that was the same that only stopped in sky this year cheese is new dairy is new because i thought i'd fucked myself up because i was vegan so long i like dairy become intolerant to dairy and i had in many ways and then in sky and i had and i had and i had and in sky i started eating it again and then making its way but i still couldn't have like if i have like regular milk and a tea like i'll feel a bit so what it feels like to me is like i'll eat cheese and like two hours later i feel really sick for like half an hour as my like stomach tries to like digest it but it's fine now but eggs i've fucked like i can't have eggs anymore that's like utter pain and it's not even i shit myself i'll be sick it's just like it's just like my body can't break it down it's just like i'm just in pain for like three hours it's so weird do you have bill to thank for in any of this or yeah he started making like carbonara's and stuff to like get me back on eggs because i do i'd love to be someone that's just that's in the deep end though i know double fisting too yeah exactly like but um but it's very much like you know you just gotta do it but then after that i did feel a bit peak but that was the night that i proceeded to get drunk and get nasty and we still haven't gone back to drink i still haven't gone back to drink two two weeks maybe three two to three any sort of uh plotting insight or still no we said when that fizzy red cats back in m &s we'll drive a drink again but that pet night is still in the fridge since it's still in the fridge we've not touched it how about that's sick we've not had anything wow i know i kind of don't want to be either and also there's like things that are happening right now which are all good things for my career but like you went to the old nun's head and you were like sober i can do this sober i think i might have had i like i'm not being hard on myself like if i want a pint i think i had a pint on one's head but you have it and you're like i feel no different and I just feel a bit minging so yeah I've not gone back to drinking it's really strange I do feel better my voice is so much better for it like I'm finally back to like regularity with my voice and I feel like a healthier person and also I'm just not sad anymore yeah thanks um but I don't feel sad all the time anymore it's strange you get in those cycles I don't know if anyone else feels this but like I don't I know I don't have a drinking issue but I definitely get sick to go where I start drinking more and then I realize that I'm really sad then And I stopped for ages and I'm like, God, this is amazing.

11:31And then eventually, maybe in August or whenever the fuck, I'll start drinking again and it'll go back into the cycle. Yeah. And someone listening to this goes to fucking AA and they're like, she's got a problem, okay? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. No, we all have a problem. We've all got a problem. But that doesn't mean that you can't, you know, make your little two weeks, three weeks here and there where you don't drink and that's not a good thing to do. And how are you? Sorry, I feel like I've slipped my hair out of the room. No. What did you do this weekend? Mum said what you do at the weekend I said I spat random bars in random bars Window kid Yeah Then I went Manny Then I went Skegger Yeah my sexy king I love him Nottingham big up Big up nuts Fucking daft duck Do they say duck in knots?

12:19Yeah I ate dog Okay You're a dog I was in Bristol on the weekend Which Talk about being sober I went to Bristol don't know if i could be sober there no uh no okay bristol headlines bristol is a place that i've only been to as an 18 year old to visit a friend at uni who was at the university of bristol and i did not enjoy it but it was mainly because of uh the people i was hanging out with the friends of this friend and i mainly put it down to people and then um this time was a bit field um with a special someone uh in the special someone's brother's flat okay which was cool nice great flat gorgeous really great flat uh flat screen loads of plants really nice coffee machine oh record player no need to leave the house no need to leave the house michael buble on record player no latte but leave the house we did and we explored the wonders that redfield had to offer okay but i won't be back in a rush you know yeah as much as i did love um the greg's outlet in redfield yeah i don't need to go back there immediately did you know that greg's outlets were a thing a great outlet where you can buy the frozen bits no you can buy the leftover shit that hasn't been sold in other gregs and they all know they all put it in one shit gregs oh no i didn't know that yeah oh well they sell like like a four pack of stuff they'll sell four packs they'll sell ones oh maybe ones they're just selling it for less and it's a day old i mean i do love bristol i love the bristol girls i love bath as well people were lovely yeah they are fab people are lovely it was i played a few gigs there every time i've been there it feels cold the last didn't you have a really good really good gig in bristol last year sporting a really good a really really good gig no there are some brilliant listeners there are two of you divas in bristol i mean there was a few people that came to see me when i supported lapsy which is really nice and we all had pictures outside and they had a cat and i can't remember their names i'm so sorry because you're probably going to message me after this but you are lovely and i love you and they're like we love sophie and we love louis and i was like oh that's so nice um yeah so bristol the people are amazing it's just like every time i go out in bristol i'm just like this just feels like going out in an area of london that you don't know do you know what i mean you said southwest london which yeah it feels like southwest london it's got more culture than southwest london yeah it doesn't feel like I just wondered like King, it feels like Labut Grove to me.

14:45Oh yeah, I actually saw a fan at the gig that I went to. I went to a really good gig on Friday night of some Canadian hardcore band. You would have really fancied the front band. What are they called? Truck Violence. They were fantastic. Some venue I can't remember the name of, but some girl working there was a fan of the podcast. In Bristol. In Bristol. Yeah. Then went out in Gloucester Road. Ooh. Not in South Ken, for those of you listening. in that area. No one's listening in that area. No one's listening in that area. It made me think that, you know, maybe Hot Take, maybe White Dreads aren't that bad.

15:25Maybe. I was actually going to say Lou went to Bristol and his rat tail is currently dreaded right now. You can't see it. For listeners, I don't have a fucking rat tail. Okay, I would never ever stoop that low. Rat tails are fierce if there's like short hair. Aiden Zemiri cut his off. Did he? Yeah. Aiden Zemiri come on the pod challenge I love Aiden Zemiri He's a nice boy Aiden Zemiri most universally liked person In sort of that world And he's fit And he's fit And lovely accent It's amazing what being Scottish can do For your approval rating Speaking of Wink Wink I haven't listened to it yet It was a huge week for music Phoebe Bridges back Lost boys Yeah Never grow up Never get My thoughts on it Six out of ten Yes every time people bridges come back i'm like oh no the singles and then the album comes out and i like fist myself to it for weeks yeah i like it it's giving very like i'll never be able to shake the boy genius and specifically few bridges i know would be friends but she'd call me dude and like that's okay but not like a transphobic way but she just calls everyone dude um and those type people yeah dude like yeah dude that's sick and i just like like not that i'd feel misgendered just more like I'm just like, um, so it was fine.

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17:34No place like Chrome. Check responses set up required compatibility and availability varies 18+. I mean, it's a hard bar. I don't think I get it. Because her friend called her a slut. She names her friend. I can't remember who it is. Because I'm like Judy Fox. I cannot believe. Eh? I know. Biba Doobie, top of New Music Friday UK. Who we actually need to talk about. Because, no, we don't. That'd be a hater. I can't believe, like, who listens to Biba Doobie? I think people younger than us. Okay, now I love you BBDB and you're great But I've never met anyone That's like, do you know who my favourite is?

18:10BBDB But then maybe I'm just not indie enough BBDB, I think you're cooler than me Maybe I just don't know I think she is for Like 20 year old 2 billion streams, good for her Sort of alt girls Yeah She seems to have a lovely time and everyone loves her So that's great Let's see fans also like on BBDB be claire o laufy faye webster okay james like biba doobie though like james would like james right i think james's ex was friends biba doobie though so really sorry james bring that up tv girl i remember do not love is rock by tv girl that was a song that like because my ex-boyfriend would like sing that to me um towards the end of our relationship and i was like oh i'm being cheated on tv girl three songs last time i was in bristol they got booked to play a really small venue they're They're so known, but they're not.

19:04Oh, Mac DeMarco. Okay, it's for all the softies. Malcolm Todd? Someone that... Sue Me, I Wanna Be Wanted. Someone told me about... Audra Hobart's brother. Really? Yeah. She's like someone who I'd never heard of and just gets hundreds of millions of streams. Well, it's the same. It's the same as Audra Hobart. Right. The deal they must have signed, honey. Sue Me, I Wanna Be... And Suki Waterhouse just popping up and actually having a successful music career is great. I think... Cara Delevingne wishes in a way. Yeah. Well, maybe she'll get there. She's still early on. But yeah, I agree. No hate to be Badooby.

19:36Yeah, like literally no hate to be Badooby. Because love her. And she's... And I bet she's dead nice. She's killing it. Yeah, and clearly the music's amazing. I've just never, ever been like... Never been grabbed by it. Yeah, just never. Maybe this album will prove us wrong. Yeah. I mean, Hayley Williams is on it. It's got like every sort of... Matt Healy's on it, I think. It's got... And then Brendan Yates is on it. It's got like... It's produced by someone from Title Fight or something. Fab. Indie vibes. Yeah. Sam Smith's back being sad and gay but she's sorry I don't know if we hammered that point home she's above Sam Smith Phoebe Bridges Sombra Charlie XCX SD Kid Gracie Abrams oh SD Kid's back yeah it's alright I feel like this is a big fat week for music it's a big fat week which is interesting because it feels like the last two have been a little bit a little bit slow well my it's gonna be good this Friday because I've got a song coming up oh bloody hell yeah you do Kissing nice I posted it on my Finster and there was one clip that I got three hate comments within like 10 minutes calling it AI slop also speaking of, on Saturday, and they might be listening to this podcast, I reckon they are a listener, but I blocked you on all my accounts, do you know when I sent you that boy who was commenting on a lot of accounts being nasty saying I was ripping off Charlie, I swear I swear he was at the pub on Saturday like money on it, sat behind me I just thought, fuck yeah did he say anything?

20:58Obviously he said nothing but like i think it was him and i because he's ugly no like just like because he's just a pussy like what you're doing commenting on my finster i feel like that's also the thing that i hate about like doing music sometimes it's like you know when people like comment hey i'm like do you honestly think like this is easy like i've made like a full song i've made like a full project and then someone will just comment like don't give up your day job well honey this is my day job you're kind yeah being a podcaster yeah not anymore so it's not my day job actually I'm trying I'm having a go I think people are just mad and jealous It's good that you're releasing music though And then the project's out in Two weeks Yeah honey But this is what you're manifesting What we've been speaking about on the Patreon Which is that the best way The hottest way to promote your music in the summer of 2026 Release more music Yeah I agree And inundate people with music And honey you're about to get triple fisted this year Wait for this Watch what I do Okay, so music is winning this week.

22:01Yeah, I mean, good for Boobie Doobie, by the way. I don't want to be a hater. Oh, Tyler, the Creator's come with a song. Ryan B, he's back. Steve Lacey at 20th. With Scissor. Gosh. Plenty of music to digest. Katie Perry at 27. Oof. Shania Twain still singing, bless her. Does she know? By CQ. Supporting Harry Styles, though, Shania Twain. I know. Have you seen the videos, though? No, I haven't. Rough as McGee. Oh, this is Lorelei. I got invited to his gig the other day. Ooh. You're a lovely girl. Shout out pay from beggars. Thank you pay. Thank you pay. I don't expect to pay in ages because I think they realise that I'm actually not alternative.

22:38You are, well you used to be alternative. Yeah, now I'm just trans. People think I'm alternative but I'm not. You are alternative, you just don't like listen to, you don't listen to as much music as you used to do. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't have the time. And you want to, you're ambitious. You can have ambition. You're not afraid to make the TikTok. Yeah, exactly. Sorry, I'm meant to be in a meeting in 20 minutes. I just want to check that. What's our stat? Postpone it. I just thought, is that okay? I'm following up with Millie. Millie, reply. She hasn't replied? No. But she wants to see it. She'll be in a meeting.

23:18I can't remember what I wanted to say about Brockwell Lido now. Do we talk about it? Do we address the elephant in the room? Kate King? Yeah. I think so yeah you weren't a she just did it I was I'm a bit maybe I'm thinking too deep but I am good I've got something to say about our Kate team Kate King is my fave has been my fave for many years before she left the internet is my fave you're u-turning my fave ever right I watched her podcast recommendations today it's a bit peak because all it is is like firm cotton and a bunch of bullshit because we're not on it but she wouldn't like me for the thing I'm about to say did you watch it like thinking like yeah thinking i was going to be on it i wasn't um she has recently been being told by her followers and listeners and lovely fans to stop reposting ai slop apparently she's reposting all of these videos that are clearly made by ai and everyone's like kate do you know what it's doing to the planet like how do you find this entertaining etc kate then opens her camera and at the end of one of the videos says people are messaging me about this AI thing I can do what I want I am 27 you can't tell me what to do and posts it now AI everyone's using AI I actually don't use it that much other than when I google like can I cook a turkey for longer than 20 minutes but Kate's excuse of AI usage being I am 27 I can do what I want now the reason i'm speaking about kate in this in this manner is because kate king i think represents to me the silent majority i think that's why people like kate king because she is the silent majority she's a girl who lives with like her parents who are like 60 like they're the people that watch tv believe everything that they read in the daily mail and like they're socially conservative yes like they what they read in the news or on reels will be fact because they've got no other reason to believe it they don't go into london and when they do they go to like big ben and it's fine it's whatever right no shade because that's like great and that's like the majority and i think that's why a lot of people like kate king especially in our circles because she feels like a breath of fresh air because she is like almost being at home and talking to someone at home or talking to like i know she's 27 year old woman but she feels like a 60 year old woman do you know i mean i think that's why everyone finds it comforting but the issue then is with kate king is not with kate king but with the silent majority is this is what it's like is like ai and shit like that doesn't feel maybe i'm the friend that thinks too much maybe i'm too woke but like it's just kind of like her just being like i'm old enough you can't tell me what to do is the reason why i think as a society we're all failing and i'm not blaming kate king for that but like you being like you know someone being like i don't know if someone if i said something wrong and then you're like so i'm actually gonna take you aside and be like i think what you said there was a bit wrong kind of thing or like a listener would message me like i didn't like what you've said about this like i listen i read them i see it and not that that's ever really happened but i would listen i wouldn't reply be like i'm a 27 year old woman you can't tell me what to do like that's not how we learn and grow and so yeah kate louise yellow card gonna zag okay you're gonna zip zap my boy i'm gonna zip zag I love that Kate King does that that's exactly what Kate King should be doing she's sassy I don't think that's an excuse she is stubborn like baby keep posting AI slop I understand it AI slop is killing the planet that's our lead argument no I'm saying that the response to people who listen and love you you can be like look I've heard what you're saying I love the AI slop but the response being like I'm 27 you can't tell me what to do Okay so when she next says a very like right Leaning bullshit yeah but she's got evil Val On her case all the time she's probably telling her Probably trying to boss well that Actually was going to be one of my main points of the The Margate video yeah she's Delighted which is that yeah she's She's maybe a nicer person than Kate Yeah I love it yeah She's lovely I think that was one of the main discussion points But um is that She's just a breath of fresh air and she doesn't really say much She sort of just repeats what Kate says but she's so far from evil.

27:34But back to the point, Kate King is disabled. Yeah. Her mum made her delete her social media, right? Yeah. That's the accusation. That's the theory. Yeah, and her granddad died at the same time. So maybe her saying I'm 27 is sort of like... Her reclaiming herself. Yeah, she's sort of like, I can do what this is. I can imagine her saying it to her own mum this is crazy how we're talking about this in such detail but I'm taking it in a different direction I think your your point of like responding to people criticising you I just don't think is a way that anybody should exist to just like immediately just be like I'm listening like so many people are commenting it and then she just immediately is just like no fuck you I'm 27 I don't know I just feel a bit let down by Kate and like it's less so the thing about AI like fuck it everyone's using AI like whatever I think it's just the response to people who like and I know that's why we love her but I think I've never really enjoyed people in pop culture like comparing Kate King right now to Alex Turner or people that are kind of like arrogant or like weird like Alex Turner of the Arctic Monkeys yes when Alex Turner just comes up and he's like this is rock and roll and chucks a microphone that old rock and roll never dies lays dormant looking like a pedo Like I just like I just don't get it So I think Alex Turner can go fuck himself Kate King's Kate is taking on these like Because I believe in Kate I believed in Kate King I believed before she went away I believed in her for years And I still do So I'm like a super fan But You know what I'm hearing?

29:16Ultimately Sorry Ultimately Ultimately I just think She needs to move with the world a little bit Ultimately I'm hearing I liked Kate King And now everyone likes Kate King Now Nico B likes Kate King not at all i'm glad that kate's getting a come up i like charlotte cx when no one else has gone to her head and i love charlotte cx i don't think fame's on to her head because also this is also the thing that i was speaking on with bill where kate king is still an echo chamber of the internet she's when she returned to youtube she gained 6 000 followers and she stayed on 60 000 followers she's not growing or getting smaller or getting bigger she's not getting any more famous kate king like and so this is also yes i don't believe so so i think kate is also in an echo chamber which we're all fed which makes her seem like the most famous person in the world maybe i'm deep in kate king too much i'm gonna stop double kate um and i just think our kate like come on you need to just be a bit more turned on like you're the people's princess imagine diana being like i'm 27 i could say that diana would listen i i can't i can't be doing with the diana sort of comparison i can't be doing with the diana just full stop guys am i the two work friend be honest but clearly not because i think so many people commenting this on a rest in peace to princess diana i do not give a fuck about anything relating to princess diana why do people like why is she a queer icon because she would go into like i believe correct me if i'm wrong but she'd go into the aids wards and stuff and like shake everyone's hand when everyone was like scared to even go near gay people.

30:48Well, that's nice. That's really nice. She would go out with Freddie Mercury secretly in like drag. That's fun. Yeah. So she actually is a bit of a legend.

30:58Still married into the monarchy? I don't know. I'm still with you, Kate. If our audience doesn't know who Kate King is, she's a 27-year-old from Aylesbury that posts videos about her day-to-day life. She took a trip to Marguerite recently. I am on Kate King's Instagram, by the way. She took a trip to Margate recently and I thought it was one of her best videos yet personally. I thought it was avant-garde. I loved how she filmed herself for two minutes at a time with no real conversation happening between her and her mum. I loved... Oh, she's turned the comments off, lads. Really? Yeah. Who were the boys in the Margate trip?

31:37She takes a trip. She takes a day trip to Margate. Oh, the older boys from the Bowls Club. She goes to the Bowls Club? Yeah, she goes. They all took the shorter bus together. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. okay well she and she hates the boys she well she's like boys will be boys she has to take like she has to take a break like every an hour to just get be on her own yeah she's like i can't be dealing with the boys i'm like who are the boys yeah no like the old boys um and i feel bad for being mean to kate but i'm also don't no it's okay it's all because i'm not being mean to kate i just think you've leveled it as a fan leveled it with love yeah it's come from a good place and we'll leave it there.

32:13Kate, if you manage to find time to listen to this in between Flo and Cotton and... Who else is on it? Does she like... Oh, The Rest of Entertainment.

32:26Yeah, it's like straight... I didn't realise also that The Rest of Entertainment does like The Rest of Politics and The Rest is whatever the fuck. Yeah. I'm like, pick a new title. Thought about that. The Rest is a boring name. The Rest is... The Rest is something new, honey. The rest is corporate job with two kids in the home counties. The rest is just getting into podcasts. Yeah. The rest is going to the Royal Albert Hall to see Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell paying 80 quid. No, it's O2. They did O2. Mental. The rest is accepting the MBE. The rest is, oh, I love Gary Lineker. The rest is, oh, my favourite biscuits is a Gary Bouldy.

33:09the rest is

33:15the rest is an all-inclusive in Mallorca actually isn't that bad the rest is a new build right by the motorway with three bedrooms so you can start raising your kid the rest is I actually did make some good policy decisions that was a character the rest is the Labour government just released its Pride month video with a Pride flag and like pride pins the rest is release the hounds what did the labor party do they did a pride video what today released a late like a video of like keir starmer speaking at like talking about pride and also i'm like girl aren't you meant to go like why are you talking what does pride mean to you kiss tamer no and like he's talking about like the trans community and everyone's commenting like what the fuck what's he saying just kind of like saying how like that just so amazing and yeah I love RuPaul I love transgender people I love Kate Kirk I love Love Island He quit just because he couldn't see SNL do another whole series just impersonating him Do you reckon Keir Starmer watched SNL?

34:19Yeah he would have seen it Mad I wanted to talk about Brockwell Lido changing hands but I don't have the minerals for it right now so that we can push that to Patreon on next week. It has been pushed back. Oh, it has been pushed back. Okay, well, we could... Oh my God, straight dystopia. Straight dystopia, straight dystopia, straight dystopia. Chronic migraine is 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox, onabotulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they start. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It prevents on average 8 to 9 headache days a month versus 6 to 7 for placebo.

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36:06No ID, prescription or age requirement. It's the number one OBGYN recommended brand of emergency contraception and it won't impact your future fertility. That's freedom to be. Use as directed. So for first time listeners, straight dystopia is a is a thing. segment segment made by louis bluey where he gives examples of straight dystopia yeah great explanation uh so it's basically like a dystopian version of what straightness is there you go thank you okay and on my tiktok feed this morning i found a slide show that says four ways adhd shows up in your boyfriend um he's just going to be nasty isn't he well hyper focus loving versus distraction in the beginning you his hyper focus he takes to 24 7 now he gets easily distracted it's not a lack of love love it's not a lack of love oh marina walked into the chat oh no the novelty just faded oh or he doesn't like you yeah i don't think that's adhd selective hearing he looks straight at you while you talk but retains zero information his brain didn't process the audio because it was searching for dopamine or he doesn't like you or he might be bored of you and losing oh I wanted to use this sound it's back in 10 minutes for the bus here or 15 minutes for the bus or 28 minutes for the bus god my feet stink I'm so sorry not just liking teenage girls Could you smell my feet then?

37:49I couldn't actually. Oh my God, this is fucking car crash.

37:57Down piles. Doom. D-O-O-M, down. Oh, to give me strength. Down piles. Down. Does your dog ever have piles? No, my dogs never did. One of them's dead. Doom piles in messy spaces. He doesn't clean the way you expect. He gathers his stuff into random piles. If he puts things inside a drawer, his brain forgets they exist. That's more ADHD. That doesn't sound like he's lost interest in you. Or he's just a messy bastard. Impulsive outbursts. He gets instantly frustrated over tiny inconveniences like losing keys or traffic. His emotional filter is thin, leading to fast mood swings. He isn't lazy or careless.

38:42His brain is just wired differently. communication requires understanding not criticism now as far as i can tell this is a joke this is a completely sincere account called adhd.adhd46 but it's part of a wider thing that i feel like i see online where like i don't know if you'll get them but it's sort of like uh if i've been scrolling for too long i'll get an ad like this is what like dissociative like disorder looks like in men and it's like porn addiction and i'm like it's just once a day okay it's fine it's not it's not an addiction but like there's all this sort of weird i'd really like to go into the porn conversation oh really i like people's porn usage and like people being upset that their boyfriends watch porn or like porn usage in general saying an addiction's watching every day okay well let's let's go into it wake it up well i just think it's like normal i wouldn't want to watch porn because it's i don't know maybe i come from a different different era it was i just don't think it's that it was the noughties we watched porn every day i just don't think it's that deep i like i understand if he's like addicted to it and like can't stop watching it can't like come without having have watching or whatever or it like affects your sex life but if it doesn't and he just like watches porn like he's not thinking about somebody else like when he's fucking you like it's it's sometimes it's just like a usage thing yeah have you just getting your rocks off Have your wank.

40:09Is that watching a film? But then I would extend that to, I don't think I would be, like when we were talking about OnlyFans or like Instagram models the other day with Jack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think I would have a problem with someone doing that either. No. Like if you want to follow someone hot on Instagram. Yeah, maybe. But they have to have like over 20K. Yeah, they have to be like so famous. They have to be unattainable, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have to be a budget. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't think it's a thing I just don't like I don't think about it Like no and that I think that's the crucial element Yeah Justin Bieber says even thinking about Cheating is cheating But I don't think when I'm Watching porn I'm cheating I'm cheating No because you're not yeah Because it's so like not that You don't think oh what's this lovely lady's Life like or what's any How is she to talk to or whatever like you're not thinking like that straight dystopia demonizing porn oh maybe discuss in the comments obviously lots of improvements can be made to the porn industry but is porn itself harmful discuss discuss i don't think so but this yeah i think there's a lot of things i think as someone with adhd i like diagnose adhd and i on meds now i think kind of i think bill knows which of my adhd things i've got and so like when they affect my life like it's fine but i think if i'm just like if i just haven't slept well i'm being a bit pissy like i'm just being pissy it's not adhd like i feel like sometimes i feel like since i got diagnosed and now i'm on meds i feel like there are times where like it'll be a conversation or it'll be like maybe it's your adhd and i'm like maybe it isn't and maybe i'm just fucking knackered and do you know what i mean like i feel like there is like a not a worry to go with this but like i think it's just kind of like is adhd just people's excuses well yeah there's always that argument and like for sure like if he always had like one of these things like you know like hyper focus perhaps and he was like i'm very aware of like my hyper focus sensitivity or whatever or whatever the fuck it was and you're very aware of it but if he just starts doing random shit like that's okay to just like that's peak yeah that's happening because you weren't like that whereas like do Do you know what I mean?

42:24I think this is like... He'll know if he's got ADHD what his things are. Right, exactly. Do you know what I mean? And I don't think this is... Judging from the comments, this is like mainly guys in the comment. And I got it right. So like, this is almost just like... What would you say? It's just to make guys feel better. I agree. It's like... But I think also as well, I think with ADHD, it's one of those things that you kind of just can't deny. so when someone says something just like yeah yeah like that's a symptom whereas actually it's like is it hyper focus is obviously a symptom of adhd but the description is in the beginning you were his hyper focus he texted 24 7 now he gets easily distracted it's not a lack of love the novelty just to care is like he'll still text you because he cares and if texting means something to you still text you yeah for sure do you know what i mean like because that's still caring because you're because like because he wouldn't have tech because if he had adhd he wouldn't have been text in the first place you should still get a dopamine hit yeah when it's you know past the honeymoon period or even if you don't get the dopamine hit you know that it means a lot to me so you try i just feel like yeah straight dystopia this week is sort of excusing just people people being naff people like people being dickheads and just not being good partners um but similarly on On the wanking to porn front soon, I actually have another little segment for us this week.

43:53Okay. Which is called Bad Things I Enjoy. Okay. So I've got a list of bad things I enjoy. If you want to sort of - I'll just chime in. Exactly. Like I always do. Not taking a plastic bag to the supermarket. Do you buy them? I always take it out bad. But it's not because I'm a thing. It's just I just don't want to wait. It's more the waiting for someone to bring over a fucking bag. It's like even when you buy - Oh my God! Oh my God. I know. Even also, like the small ones, like the extra, are they called extras? You know, like the small, like Sazby's extra, you know, the small ones. Why is no one manning a machine?

44:25No one's there. And I can't like take it. Fair dues if they leave like a pile of bags. So that just straights me. So I bring my own tote bag to get rid of that. And then I have to fucking pester the woman who's finally having a nice conversation with someone at a checkout. Yeah. And I'm like, give me the fucking bag. And then I'll stand behind you and wait for you to scan it like a pussy hate it one person manning like 18 checkouts and they have all the plastic bags building on this which i secretly love i love buying like lube from the shop and then they're having to take out those like plastic box things and i'm like and they're looking at you uncomfortably and i'm like you've made this weird and i'm about to make it weirder how do you make it weird just look at them smile i went in my building the other day and we had to buy one and i was like yeah and it was like why are you making out that i'm using it on you like girl keep it moving open the box and pass it under open the box open the fuck up putting a dirty yogurt pot in the rubbish bin not the recycling yeah i mean do you want a confession here we go by madonna gag it faggot um in our old house we never got given a recycling bin so we just didn't yes i knew that yeah and i haven't told anyone because i respect which is bad but like we literally didn't have a recycling bin and we just didn't know where it was and then someone could be like why don't you message the a landlord in your life.

45:43Lanyards. Speaking of, I actually need to get my... James, if you are listening to this, where's my deposit, girl? Where's my£700? You haven't got your deposit. I left in September. Yeah, I should chase that. I actually thought about... Actually, that's such a boring discussion.

46:00Laughing at stupid people online. Yes, I was going to say, I do love a hate comment. Like reading funny hate comments. Eating a ribeye steak. I had a sirloin yesterday. Did you? Yeah. Here? Yeah, I cooked it for me and Bill. Oh. What did you serve with? New potatoes and a lovely buttery sauce. New potatoes in the summer. It just works. New potatoes in the summer. They should be boring, but they're great. And then 10 to 10 broccoli and asparagus. TSP. And then peppercorn sauce. Wanking to porn. Yeah. Okay. Binge eating. Binge drinking. Oh, I know. I've been on my binge. Binge smoking. Yeah. case down my eye nudes um watch people fall over watching people fight yeah i can't look away watching people cry in the street can't look away did you laugh at bill when he had his ankle injury and he was hobbling around no he i texted him and i was like girl i was at are you okay and he was like yes i'm okay and i was like you're getting an uber home and do you want me to pick you up obviously that's like are you going to get an uber home or do you want to die in a death truck so bill was i got an uber home and then that was it really i've been a really loving partner i am great part of bad things I do that I enjoy crossing the road not like a crossing I like getting frustrated and then picking something up and feeling like it has feelings and throwing it and going fuck off should I ever do that

47:25say that again so like if I like pick the bin up and it's split and then things fell on the ground like I'd pick something up and throw it and pretend it had feelings I'd be like fuck off wow no I used to scream into my pillow or punch my pillow when I was a teenager or not if I lost at FIFA. Replying to hate comedy. Bill still crushes controllers. Yeah, throws them across the room, lobs them. Is that attractive or you tolerate it? I don't really mind. Neutral. He's a really nice man. My favourite person. Other things that I like doing. I like putting on hot wash. I don't want to do 30. Oh, that leads me on to another one.

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47:59Yeah. Using a dryer in like 30 degree heat. Yeah, I'll do that as well. It's bad, I know, but I love it. I love being lazy. Well, if it's on a wash anyway and I don't even have to take it out and it dries automatically, I'm obviously going to put it on dry. So's Boz. Not brushing my teeth after I've had a night on the booze. Sometimes I have not taken your makeup off. Let us know in the comments. I would like to hear more of these. What is this segment called? Bad Things I Enjoy. Bad Things I Enjoy. Binge eating is a big one. Schadenfreude. God, this has been so... Talk to your friends' exes sometimes.

48:33Still following your friends' ex. No message and you're replying. that's like something that I would do huh girl we aren't talking a lot of time but just kind of like yeah just I can like that's I don't think that's bad I don't think there should be any guilt in that no but like I think no especially not in your case you fucking don't well yeah yeah true well yeah maybe it's not bad but but it's bad things I enjoy there's so many it could be conceived as against rule should we ask Bill well this could be a recurring segment Okay

49:10Yeah let's I don't know I feel like this has been a very Scatterbrain episode It has been scatterbrain And also I do feel like I've been too awake friend Oh no you haven't We've got a really Really Really big Oh sorry Really really really really Really big Agony on Also TTSFU If you listen to the pod I did unfollow you and I have just re-followed you and apologised saying I didn't know that I unfollowed you but I did because I thought you were ignoring my message and I'm really sorry so I did but I saw it on a straight DVD that you were like someone followed me and I did and I'm sorry and that makes me look absolutely mental so you run a tight ship I do run a tight ship and you never replied for ages and I was like oh my god you must hate me so I unfollowed you and then you replied being like love you and I was like shit it's like when a football manager doesn't want to squad with too many players in it because you can't keep a big squad happy.

50:09Yeah. So like, and I think you're amazing and you got a song called like Upstairs, which is absolutely brilliant. Anyway, basically, this is a really, really big Agni Ant. Are you ready? But we need to do it because it has been our DMs. Babe, my clit lasts longer than your clit, so. Okay, okay. Basically, I'm a raging dyke and I have dykey drama to share and advice is needed. I work at a venue and I was dating the lighting tech there for a couple months. we'll call her tatiana for the story whilst we were dating we would often hang out with this other person let's call them shredded wheat who works in the marketing team with me and is sort of the only other queer person in the team alongside one of their partners shredded wheat is polly i re i remember before i started dating said light in tech and i had mentioned her shredded wheat and the shredded wheat said at the time oh my god she's so hot i forgot about this comment and happened to start dating Tatiana a couple of weeks later.

51:00Slow down. Okay, so you and Tatiana are dating. You told Shredded Wheat you thought Tatiana was hot and then you ended up getting with Tatiana and Shredded Wheat's poly. So I can only assume Shredded Wheat's about to fuck Tatiana. So we've got a triangle now. Yeah. Okay. When I was dating Tatiana, I told her about that comment Shredded Wheat had made just so we could giggle over it a bit together. It wasn't beefy Shredded Wheat was seeing other people. I ended up ending things with Tatiana a couple of months of dating as I felt it wasn't quite right. on the day I was ending things with Tatiana I was confiding in Shredded Wheat as we were both at work together I was letting them know that I was going to end it that day and they said if you need me I'm here and was very supported I ended things and sorry so long sorry thank you for writing all this I ended things and I had that phase you have a week or so after a breakaway start to miss them at the time I was really struggling to get over Tatiana and I had conversations with Shredded Wheat about this a week or so goes by i get a text from shredded wheat tatiana and i have hooked up a couple times since you guys stopped seeing each other i hope that's not upsetting but if it is i'm more than happy to chat about it of course so they hooked up less than two weeks after i ended things at the same time that i've been having those conversations with shredded wheat i opened the message by myself in town and started boiling my eyes out i felt so uncomfortable with the whole thing and it made me so angry i later found out that they started dating seriously they are even still currently dating even though tatiana isn't polyamorous and shreddy shredded wheat has 74 partners joking two other partners right now i understand tatiana is obviously allowed to sleep with who they want after i ended things with them but i feel especially betrayed by shredded wheat i see them every office day at work and just do my best to completely ignore them i had to block them on social media as they would constantly post each other and it made me sad shredded wheat and i do have to do work together at the end of the day so it's really awkward and the queer scene in Brighton is small so I bump into them a lot we keep cancelling our one-to-ones lol we're barely working together at the moment we may only have a week left working together as I'm current as it stands currently so I'm wondering where things will be left between us as they haven't come up to apologize to me after all I feel quite a bit of anger towards them and I sort of worry about regretting not having said anything to their face about it but at the same time I'm really nervous to do so they sometimes try to act like we're friends again in sort of ways and it annoys me because they think they can get out of this unscathed.

53:22Question is, do I confront them about the situation and give them a slight telling off for my own personal closure or do I leave it and not talk to them ever again? Introducing Taco Bell's new jalapeno citrus salsa with bright citrus, real red jalapenos, guajillo chiles. Usually, you add sauce to the food, but when the sauce is this good, the food is just there to get the sauce to your mouth. That rolled quesadilla, not a rolled quesadilla anymore. Now it's a sauce shovel. Taco Bell's jalapeno citrus salsa. Get it with any item on the cantina chicken menu while it's here. The participating U.S.

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54:45you and Bill have been together for as far as I understood it they were as far as I understood it it was all sort of happening at the same time in this sort of polycule and then two other people in the cule they weren't culeing together though Shredded Wheat was alone so they were monogamous together Tatiana and this person Shredded Wheat was alone just being poly on themselves and then Shredded Wheat has moved in there She was on a desolate kule She was on a far away galaxy She was a comet And then Tatiana Was broken up with by this person And then Tatiana starts fucking shredded wheat Immediately

55:31I mean to be quite honest with you Sue I'm a little bit lost But My instinctive reaction Is definitely have a chat with them because it sounds like you're feeling a lot of resentment. And to be honest with you, I don't know if the resentment is completely fair. It's obviously very... I feel bad for you. I feel sad for you that you kind of... Did she not say she'd kind of lost interest at one point? Or am I imagining that? Well, Tatiana and them broke up. But like, they feel annoyed that Tatiana... Not at Tatiana, but at Shredded Weep for fucking their ex.

56:13it's such a strange one because i think i'd be fine if my friend's not fucking my ex but i'd just be like there are so many people in the world and like like why have you done that it's not that i feel like thinking over my ex but just more like you're not gonna that's not gonna end well is it okay maybe if i remove polly from this for a second oh yeah and it's and it's ultimately no but when you apologies if i've misunderstood it but it was a long one but when you first telling it i was like oh it's nothing to do with poly the other person having two partners doesn't have that doesn't really i thought they were sort of all hooking up at the same time no no they were in a relationship and then the mates there so the lovely diva the lovely the lovely uh niece of ours yeah um was in a relationship like for a significant amount of time and then their mate starts fucking their ex when they break up.

57:09Okay. Okay. Well, then I apologise. No, don't have to apologise. I was almost going along the lines of play stupid games, win stupid prizes thing.

57:24Okay. I would say definitely voice some concern. Don't resent them for sort of trying to be friendly with you. They are probably feeling bad about it, but maybe they're not. but um definitely voice it i there's no point sort of if you feel these sort of emotions harboring them and uh just resenting them from afar even if you never talk to them again it would be nice to just get it out and see it see what happens basically yeah um but also i kind of agree with you that like you can't uh you can't resent people for following sort of what that i don't know what they want what their love or and it's how people view queerness like also that to them might be fine whereas like that to you isn't so i think the only thing you can do is communicate and because i think there'll be listeners uh on different sides of it like it's not calling someone fair game but it is their game to do that especially if you just work colleagues like and you're not besties do you know what i mean but it is yeah true good point it is a is a i've never been in that situation myself so i'm sure i'm sure if i was i would feel like the only situation i've ever been with a work friend is i would i this customer always used to come and ask me out on a date so i was like all right fuck it i'll go on a date so then we go out for drinks but i bring my work colleague along because we all know each other's work in the cafe and then eventually he ends up flirting with the other girl instead and he's like do you mind if i have a go on her instead and i was like honestly have a go have a go because they were like they were like they were like the poly divas who like go to like sex dungeons and i was like you know what honestly please yeah don't know why i'm here yeah and then i left and i was like unless it's like one of your besties yeah or it was a really serious relationship just time to fuck off honestly maybe this is just It's like something where you just can also do that.

59:16Yeah, for sure. And that's why I feel bad for them in the sense that Brighton is quite a small place. And it feels quite hard to escape. What was the sort of way out at the end? Yeah, I don't know. I don't think you talked about the way out fully. Get the fuck out of Brighton maybe for a bit. Yeah, just leave.

59:38It's one of those, ultimately, right? I feel really sorry for you. And I send you a lot of love. but you're not helping yourself. I would say it's unfair what's happened for sure, but you need to firstly, yeah, say something so you can get it off your chest. Step one, then immediately like just do whatever you can to heal from this and distract yourself from this. Cause you can't, you can't, you can't do anything about it. Like, so, and you, uh, You deserve to be happy because you listen to this podcast. You deserve really good things. Right, one more. One more. Am I an artist for disliking my best friend's boyfriend, mainly for thinking she could do better?

1:00:25She's so outgoing and creative and queer, and I think she's content with him, but I worry she's not actually happy. Has he got ADHD? When they were on a break, she talked so much about wanting to sleep with and date non-men. What she finds it hard is her dynamics usually more complex than with straight men. I really really just started to dislike him and he keeps getting invited to stuff and it's changing the vibe should I say something or just be happy she's happy she keeps saying stuff what was the second last line she keeps inviting him to stuff oh I thought sorry I misheard it as like she still keeps talking about dating wanting to find out okay sorry no I misheard you selective hearing I don't love you yeah yeah yeah he hates me um so before i would think not tell her that you don't like him but like make it obvious however but i do think we are all getting to an age perhaps you're not straightly the list is like 20 so maybe you're not but like i feel like we're getting to the age where if your mate brings a partner even if you're not too much of a fan of them you just have to be like do you know what though clearly she sees something good in him and i'm just gonna have to rock it i agree do you know what i mean well i saw i actually i understand if he's bad and like if they're going on breaks and stuff it sounds like he's on his way out anyway babes don't panic about it but i think ultimately you can't like you can't do anything about that you you can't and also if it's timely timed at the wrong time it could ruin your friendship too do you know what i mean i would agree i think there's actually a recent case of it i had with a friend where they were dating someone who i had met and i didn't love on first impression and uh my friend asked like what are they like because they don't admit them before and i was like they're great yeah like as far as i know like i don't really know but they seem okay because i was just like i don't wanna i want to let this person form their own opinion of this person and i don't want to yeah get in the way of uh a connection building um but i don't know i i would definitely lean that way i wonder if it's a a really close friend of yours if there's a way you can say something with love like and like ask yourself why do you not like them do you not like them for them or do you not like them because you don't like the what they're your mate is choosing because if it's more over that your mate is choosing something for themselves that you don't agree with that's not your life like you need to like you have to give up that control if you don't like them because you think they're a prat fine like do you know what i mean but like if you just don't like them because you think you should make sure be more queer your mates in charge of your mate's life do you know what i mean if she don't want to date non-men she won't do you know what i mean like that's on her she would if she wanted to and but if she you know if she keeps going on about like wanting to hook up with other people yeah that's different that's different and also is that thing like i've had an instance and i know if you do listen you'll notice about you where i and their partner didn't like each other she i felt bad vibes off her that she didn't like me turns out she actually didn't like me because they broke up and i it wasn't i made it known but i made absolutely no effort because i realized that she didn't like me so i just didn't like her back but i would never have like been to him like you shouldn't be with her like that's on their relationship and if this person who it was was happy then they should stick together i would have gone to the fucking wedding like it doesn't matter unless i want to be invited whatever but i think it would have been like i'd go to the wedding outside because you're making that choice and i'm happy for you that you're in love do you know i mean maybe you see something i don't like it's actually got enough to do with me no matter how much i dislike that person your partner you know i've never i've never done it myself i've never gone to a friend like are you sure like yeah but i think that would really hurt me like now like i think if a friend like said that about bill i'd be like oh you're actually peak like it's peak that you haven't seen what everyone else is seeing no because it's the word it's heartbreaking when someone doesn't like your your thing um well it is but but i do think there is a way you could do it basically just by saying like look i i love this person like they're great they're they're a brilliant person but like are you sure they're right for you i think there's also a word where like if you have like valid reasons one of my other friends doesn't get along with their friend's partner and they all know that like he knows in this instance that his mate this also my mate and his partner don't get along like and like so they just meet up separately and like they'll probably he's marrying this partner and they just don't get along that's fine like and like i think there's a light way to be like you know i love her for you i love him for you but obviously we're not each other's besties and like you can make like heart of it i think you can be honest and be like you know he's not my cup of tea and we're not gonna like sit down and go get coffee on our own but like obviously if you're happy i'd never ever want to stand in the way of i think that is also fine i think a good distinction as well because that you put a boundary there too like yeah you're like i probably don't want to go and third wheel with you lot yeah do you know what i mean no don't want of the will with them exactly a good distinction as well that i found is that like you shouldn't make comments about the person themselves you should if you're going to make any criticism or ask any questions yeah it should be about their relationship yeah and how how your friend is around them or how they make your friend feel yeah or you you just gotta be like is this what you want yeah because most of the time the only times i've not liked my friend's partners particularly is just more like i'm like you've spoken about how you know you deserve better we've done this do you know what i mean so right it's just based on shit you said yeah yeah it's you're just kind of like you're but you've got to wait for that penny strop in their brain yeah you know you can't lead a horse to water and you can fist them in the arse amen lulu we've been listening to Straight Diva.

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