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32:03I was like, she's just breathing. She's just breathing. She's just out of breath. It's like, it's a big performance. Me at age 10. Very astute. My parents were like, it's a bit. She wants it to be sexual. Maybe. No, in the Grammys, it can't have been. My favorite is Kim Petra's performing coconut. She's breathing on the mic and it's just dreadful. Is it? Yeah, she's like, oh. I love her, but it's like, girls just tired. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't moved. I'm happy for everyone. I'm really happy for Olivia Dean I think that's fab Sorry there is no best artist category It's best new artist Yeah And which she won Which is crazy Yeah which is great And like obviously she won Everyone be like It should have been Cat's It should have been Addison Rae I'm like Olivia Dean has been the top of the charts For weeks And she's timeless Yeah And she relates to everyone My mum will know who Olivia Dean is It would have been cool if Addison Rae won it But I think Olivia Dean's a better I think Addison Rae's next album's gonna be better Like I think it's gonna be She's showing glimpses Yeah I think it was amazing she's in a nice place and I think she's just going to go massive next but this is Olivia's second album let her live it's Lola's third album I think Addison needs to cook a little longer Best Dance, Public Reporting, Lady Gaga, Abracadabra Fine except, yeah, sorry, the only other thing with that is that it made me realise when it was live that it's so good the production on the song is so annoying, like the kind of you and me.

33:29Yeah. And that made me think that actually the whole album was a bit like that. So just the production was a bit. I actually do have some tea on that album. Oh. I actually can't. Uh-oh. I can't spill it. Epimlico Plum is still here. Am I being too loud? No, I don't know. Uh-oh. Pink Panther was nominated a lot and didn't win anything. Which is a shame because I think she should have won a Grammy because she never wins Brits either and not annoys me. But my only thing with that is that this album was kind of like a mixtape wasn't an album and it was very very referential yeah it was amazing but i feel like she'll win yeah in the future like what like come on what we don't care about country clips boring best rap song kendrick should yeah it's defining gravity one same old thing with grammys where it's like we're going to award these people that we should have awarded like five years ago.

34:27Youngblood won. Youngblood won for his cover of Changes. Yeah. Like David Bowie Changes. We're going through Changes. Really? Because it was the gig of, apparently it's amazing, I haven't watched it. I don't trust people who say it's amazing. Youngblood wore a Grammy? That's crazy. But it's quite like a perfect moment because it was fucking Ozzy Osbourne. It's a tribute to Ozzy Osbourne. Is that an Ozzy Osbourne song? Like, he was there 17 days before he died. And then Youngblood did this rousing performance, apparently, to a packed stadium. I didn't know that was Ozzy Osbourne, to be fair. That's just a song for a big male.

35:06No, but it's fucking... Have you not seen the video for that? Maybe I was really young. I mean, you're a year younger than me. So young when that came out. But one of the first videos I remember watching, it's Ozzy Osbourne and fucking Kelly Osbourne. Have you never seen that? Doing what? Doing that song Singing it I really The Osborns don't move me Unless it's Sharon

35:34Singing Like a goth She looks so awful She's singing good Have you seen

35:46It's actually a bit of a banger I think it's awful when People kiss their parents on the lips Why do athletes do that

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37:12please tell me about it's a Black Sabbath song anyway way a bit of that is awful that is dreadful imagine that now imagine that now that would never happen now their poor babies had it so easy they had it so easy if you were born 10 years early you'd be so famous you would have won tonight you would have won a grammy that read was so good why are you here is so funny so funny you sexual happy for her happy for her. Buzzing. She deserves that totally. I mean, it's well overdue. I don't know if the album was that great. It really was that good. It was fabulous. Her singing is great. Performance is great.

37:56Production is great. Songs instrumentally, I don't know. Folded by Kehlani. That deserved to win. Yeah. Is that the challenge? Oh, won't you come pick up your phone? Yeah. Top line of the year? Yeah, fair. That one's everywhere. And then there's a bunch of other stuff. And that's great. Good that Turnstile won Good that The Cure won their first Grammy of all time Really? Yeah But like yeah Don't she won Best Video? They're behind the curve always Who won the best What thingy was up for? What thingy was up for? Your mate was up for it My mate Oh Iris Wet Leg were up Best Alternative Music Album They were up Oh wow Wet Leg were up for Best Alternative Music Album It was oh and the cure one I'm sure they were off like best cover as well yeah yeah yeah maybe it's not even here because it's quite a niche one they were so won't you come anyway come your clothes good luck to Iris if she won but the you know hey on to the Brits where we'll be eagerly awaiting the results of having the Brits oh no the next week of that fucking washed up award thing And then we'll get invited next year And then we'll pretend to like it again Okay Do you want to talk about Like what?

39:28Like come on What? Is there anything you have to talk about today darling? No I definitely had some points but I have forgotten them That's okay Do you want to talk about Friendless and gay Straight gays Friendless and gay Or Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein Probably not Jeffrey Epstein But those photos that are coming out are absolutely harrowing Peter Mandelson The Prince Andrew one Is scary Is actually so gross It's crazy You shouldn't laugh Peter Mandelson ones are quite funny I haven't seen them There's nothing gross happening in them He's just in his pants in an office Sorry But like actually actually really like Prince Andrew over a girl passed out on the floor is mortifying.

40:19That was gross. Mortifying. That was a bit gross. It's so gross. Moving on from that though, sorry. Friendless and gay is so funny. There's a dating app for lonely gays apparently, which is fierce. And there was just that thing that's come out. Lonely. I'm so lonely. And gay. And gay. Lonely and gay. I mean, Jack Remington was saying Could you actually imagine being the lonely gay from the stock photo? And I bet he was paid a really, really cheap fee. Yeah. Oh, gays. Loneliness is wrecking you. Oh. Have you ever been, or were you ever lonely and gay? So I think. I don't think I was. I don't think I even.

41:05Teenage years? No, no. Because I was with the girlies and I was just texting gays on. I didn't really, you don't know what you don't have. so I never had community until I had it do you see what I'm saying so I didn't realise how good being around other gays was until I moved to London but even then you know me I don't hang around with too many that many gay too many fucking losers too many fucking faggards I don't walk around with a big group of queer people as you know as you fucking know I don't think my friends think too much about it I think We're just too liberal babe Okay Well that's that then That was the lonely and gay segment With Sue and Louis Are you his Bonnie last one minute and are Raji Tart the next Okay Not into men Not into LGBTQXYZ You added the Q in it Yeah I know because I'm a queer Because I'm a queer There's this gay that's going around A lot of bullshit Like

42:39Most of the finance e-commerce guys doing what I'm doing are straight. And some of them even criticize gay boys. So you watch them, you admire them, but you never feel like you fully belong. And at the same time, you don't like and belong to the gay community either. If that's you too, bro, welcome. You are allowed to be business-minded, masculine, into self-growth, and be into other men. This space is for us. so my thing is what you're there saying is you're saying that you cannot be gay and also business minded and have a successful business without being like i'm not gay even though i am gay but because i'm into business bitch i know the the most successful business people i know are gays are fags girl and do not deny the fact and they'll go to the club they'll go to the club and get fisted like wake that up like i hate this so much in the morning sprint and town hall yeah no they are like i'm so sick to death of these type of gays existing and also then giving like space to be and then there's other um because there's also what's going on is like gay men shutting down trans women and be like trans women aren't women and stuff i'm like everyone's forgetting where they came from and like we're actually so fucking good like it's like he's forgetting that like you'll not find that community in other gay men that also hate themselves that boy hates himself you haven't found your community yet that's fine maybe the problem is you if you moved four countries and you can't find it yourself whoa i lived in london dubai denmark germany france and it's like okay and you still can't find any mates i think you might be the issue no he's found his mates they're on they're into e-commerce he's not showed any mates he showed one hookup that he stood with.

44:22Just because you like applied to being the brotherhood. Girl, that is no difference than going to the Vauxhall tavern. This is the original video that we both watched, which is a bit more lighthearted.

44:51this kind of way and I'm just a normal guy well does he sound Italian I think he's Spanish right rainbow palettes yeah okay it's interesting I think it's like I don't think it's that interesting well no but it's an interesting case study of like I would never meet this guy in normal life because he wouldn't say it to people in real life right it's pussy but like I feel like it's like okay you've gone online you lonely lonely freak and you're trying to make you're victimizing your community because other people are doing that to you like you said you just don't fit in with all the accountant bros that you want to be like well unfortunately you like dick that you can't deny because you're so much of a cung guzzler that you can't deny it and then you're coming out here calling other people gayer than you and saying you don't you don't you don't want to be like them what tough shit bitch you are like them and you're admitting it they will see us all the same so get over yourself you can 100 % be like I'm looking for gay people who like finance and like going to Dubai like there are gays that do that good for you lot no one's saying you can't do that but knocking down feminine gays or gays that go to the club or gays that like are the ones who fight for their rights every day where were you did you throw the first brick no you didn't like get lost I think it's so tired could you drop ship portable charges though what could you drop ship portable charges like he is what is that like apple well the thing the thing i'm getting at is that like as you point out there are there are many good business-minded gays those two things aren't mutually exclusive but he's in this weird internet kind of pyramid scheme bubble of like dubai entrepreneurship yeah and like drop shipping and like Amazon e-commerce and applying to the brotherhood, which is like just the classic sort of, well, I imagine.

46:45It's a pyramid scheme. It's the sort of kind of Andrew Tate. A private club for masculine men into men. It's just an online community where you're paying. Of people that like to fuck. Because the thing is they can sit around, look, doing their workouts, but at the end of the day, they're all going back to the room to rail each other. Just as much as people do in the clubs, in dark rooms. You are not special. You going to a house in Bali and pretending to be straight with your mates and then sucking each other off in the evening sounds boring. It's not gay if we're on jet skis. I don't go to the club, but I'm not like, I'm a doll who doesn't like going to the club.

47:17Like, do you know what I mean? I wouldn't do that. The girls are like going to the club. I just don't like going to the club. Good point. Do you know what I mean? It's like, just because I don't like doing something doesn't mean that other people can't have that and aren't that. I'm not saying I'm not like them. It's a way to, one, I think it's a way to single yourself out and I think it's a way to like separate yourself from the community because you think that you're better and you hate yourself. I think that's the base note of it is it's like you hate yourself and I honestly have no time for it.

47:43And just because I'm like a white guy doesn't mean like I'm a bad guy. Like, girl, shut up. Shut up. But it is like that. It's like, you know, you're a muscular man who clearly benefits from everything, but you're upset that you like to go home and put your dick in a bone. Like, what do you want? Like, do you want me to feel sorry for you? Like, you are such a victim. and you feel so unfortunate that you are gay because you wouldn't be doing this if you didn't think it was unfortunate. See, look, there's like different places that they're all going. They're going to the Swiss experience or the Greek gods experience or the warrior retreat.

48:20Five and a half K. And they're paying seven K to go there to fuck other men. You could just go Superstore. Like, I don't get it. You go to like Lost. Pop to Lost. You'll be able to get shagged just as good as you do in some random seven K villa. You're an idiot. You are an idiot. I have no time for it You're all gay You're all gay, you all like to rim other men You're gay, you're still gay girl We're all gay, they're gonna come for you too When? Weirdos, if they come for us all Your rights are gonna go just as much as my rights are gonna go I thought you were talking about an apocalypse for a second Well also, that's pretty fucking close Fellas, is it gay to go to Bali With your boys Who are also gay And are just gay Do you reckon there's a a surplus of tops in this situation or do you reckon they're actually no all of those are bottoms they're fisting queens I wouldn't be surprised if they all have those tattoos that are like rings around the top of the above their elbow because they're all into fisting how do you pick out a top or a bottom that people just are no no no as in like if you had to guess someone you can't I know like the most masculine boys ever that likes to get rails and I like I know the most there's no tells no I think there is there's a classic thing like feminine people are more like bottoms but it's not true do you know what I mean it's really not true so you don't because we all have bum holes wake that up Louise and I have zero I actually can't look at these stupid gays honestly people like that are like ruining it for everybody else you're ruining it okay I think they're a bad example I think they're dreadful examples and I think they're clearly like anti-gay right they can't they have gone around the world trying to find peace and happiness in themselves they're unable to do it by just admitting that they're gay and so instead they're coming it's like the same that like same thing that everyone's doing on the internet right now finding their own little like communities online that just are so fucking hate hateful he hates feminine gays but then you've got the gays that like go off online saying that they don't like they hate trans women or whatever it's just like everyone like this is what they want to happen this is what like straight people want to happen is they want us fighting ourselves because the end of the day we're all fucking gay to them whatever they see you was and you forgot like you were born with enough privilege that you were able to not be able to fight for the shit that you've got you weren't told that what you had was wrong so you think that you can have gays the way that you are like that's so incorrect i think there's an immense well there is an immense amount of privilege he's a finance bro who like goes to the gym and such like that and has made money it's like well you won't get it you don't get it and then you and your other finance fags want to stay and do that well then kind of do it but shut up about it man do you think They're the type of guys that hate women as well.

50:58I feel like there's a difference between this and being like a kind of maybe a straight presenting gay man or a blokey gay man. Do you think that when like, if you're part of LGBTQ stuff. Yeah, the community. The community. And we love the community. Do you think if you're part of that community and you're not like taking pride in kind of the history of it you're not participating in the culture of it beyond the kind of the literal kind of attraction but why would you not want to know where you're from like you why would you not want to know where people like you are like you're trying to separate to separate yourself from that is one lonesome which is what this boy is doing and so he's trying to find community but doing it almost in the wrong way instead of going back that way is go is trying to go the opposite way making it work whereas like everyone's just commenting it like girl this is not correct like well it is correct for you and if you find community like that with other people that hate themselves and like kind of well done yeah but i i don't know i think it's realistically we should live in a world where you don't really think anything of it and you meet someone and like you just like them because there's no way to at anything being feminine doesn't mean one thing or being masculine doesn't mean another thing also when you look deeply into both of those things what does that mean like seriously like try and describe to me what masculinity is like big cock big feminine people have big cock meaty tuck girl um like confident like feminine people confident Like big chest Big arms Big chest, hello, feminine big chest Hello Do you know what I mean, it doesn't exist It's just ways to divide us up That isn't masculinity You're cocked Good relationship with your mum Only good relationship with women Is with your mum Yeah, exactly Final question Because a lot of the comments on this video Were saying a similar thing do you think it's possible do you think anyone any gay person who is kind of going down this thing or maybe to a lighter point they're just kind of you know not super out and proud i guess yeah and they're slightly more straight presenting do you think that is inherently a sign of like internalized no homophobia i just think that's fine i just think you might not know also you might not know or whatever i don't think it is also you can be someone who you can't necessarily tell he's gay and just he's gay i meet people like that and you say oh my god you're gay gag it gag it but like it is like it is that thing at the base note of just like i kind of give alien yeah i can't i can't give me but i kind of give bear but i think it's also like i i i think that's fine but like just as long as you know that like why do you care about what people are doing genuinely, quickly, like why do you care what other people are doing?

54:07It's because you're homophobic. You shouldn't care that feminine gays exist. If you find your own little niche bit of community, that's good for you and what works for you works for you. Everyone does. Everyone has their own little bits like what people they prefer. I prefer funny people. If someone's boring, I can't be around them. I think that's incredibly boring. And that's people who I... Speak yourself. Go to... I prefer entrepreneurs. I can go to Switzerland. Exactly, that's why we're friends. But I think it is that thing. It's like respecting other people doesn't cost anything. Where should we charge our fans 5k to go to?

54:36To be straight acting somewhere. Girl. We're going to Bushwick. Yeah, we're going to Bushwick. Pay us 5k if you want to stay in the New York loft. Yeah, I can't.

54:47Brotherhood. We've got like hot desks. Yeah, hot desks. Yeah, and Wi-Fi. Do you want some agony on? Poppers is crazy. Hi, Sue and Louis. Love, love, love the podcast. That's my agony aunt is this. Love you too. I had casual sex tonight and I just hated it. The guy was really nice, but I just felt so eerie and everything was so artificial. How do I get over this feeling of having defaced myself? Fucking another day in the office. Yeah, I don't think you have. I think hookups would always make me kind of feel that way. I'd still do them. But you haven't defaced yourself. Just take yourself out on a walk or something.

55:29Have a bath. Do you know what NHS say? to figure out a depression have a bath, have a cup of tea no I think that ultimately I know how you feel you feel like you give yourself away but you haven't, just give it a few days and just like laugh at it it's funny if her sex was good like sometimes that just is what it is, like don't you don't need anything else from that which is hard because sometimes most times I've had a one night stand there is a feeling of shame the next day I have a shame on just a bit like You've had sex with someone. We're not meant to have sex with strangers like that. I used to have it like, I used to have like a sex with someone and then like they'd come over, whatever.

56:07And in the next couple of days, I was like, I think we are meant to be together. And then by like, say if we had sex on a Saturday, by the Wednesday, I'd be like, right, I don't need to be with them. That was what it was. That's a good point. I feel like it goes one of those two ways. Yeah. It's quite extreme. It's like, oh my God, fucking, I don't even want to think about that. It's disgusting. Yeah. And I think also the cycle of it is like going like, oh maybe we should be together like that is a cycle that you beat yourself up because just allow your brain to feel that way allow your brain to feel defeats and then move how you want to move after yeah there's no you just have to eradicate the shame how you're going to feel is how you're going to feel if you had good sex eventually that will then become the thing that you yeah i think just focus on um but also don't want to don't want to sweep this experience under the rug you didn't mention anything about it being bad or weird yeah no you said it was good right right Yeah.

56:54They said it was good. They just feel a bit like... Well, ask yourself... The guy was really nice, but I just felt so icky and that everything was so artificial. How do I get over this feeling of having to face myself? Well, ask yourself why it felt artificial. Yeah, why did you... Yeah. Did it go too quickly? Yeah, like maybe you need another... Maybe you need to meet someone a couple of times. You could be demisexual. You never know whether you need like... Even if it's like a short connection with someone or like meet them a couple of times to have sex with them. But like, look, I don't want anything serious, but I can't have sex with you on the first night because it doesn't necessarily make me feel good.

57:22so maybe next time yeah it's quite funny that both our first reaction was like it's just how it's meant to be no which it isn't but like sometimes no what we i think what we're trying to say is if like if that's how it's been sometimes you just have to accept that and then try a different way next time yeah take your foot off the gas maybe don't next time you go on a day don't shag yeah just see how that is or if you desperately want to shag just eradicate the shame and just like if you hated it then that's a lesson for next time like you can't do much about it you're not defaced that shit doesn't exist that's like shit that like men are put in place to make you feel like you're deflowered or whatever and you're not special anymore that's not a thing sex is an actual thing you deserve to do it and dating is um just it's a fun uh potentially lonely weird game of like uh you taking your foot on and off the gas of like okay i want more fun now and like oh okay that's too much i'm a bit of a slag and then you just pull it back a bit yeah oh and clean it next one next one uh okay strange louis actually got one so i've got one which is fun someone super cool out and then they dm'd me which is fun which is fun anyway i've just been through a really rough heartbreak last year and recently had a kind of friends to lovers arc with someone I met a few months ago.

58:47I became quite fond of him at first. I thought there's no way we're going to be more than friends. He told me he was interested in me but didn't want anything serious. I said I can't do casual so thought there was tension and it stayed platonic for a while. You need to proofread your agony hours. Then fairly sudden he opened up to the idea of us dating. Things moved kind of quickly and after reassuring me that he's happy how things are going, first we went to our first club night together and it was really sweet. But after he had kind of a panicky reaction and decided to cut me off. He wants to remain friends, but then also initiated the final breakup, in inverted commas, over the phone.

59:25And I feel like that was a shitty thing to do. I think if I tried to be his friend, I'd hope that we end up kissing and fucking, or and or fucking again. Because we had really nice chemistry. I don't know what to do. I also don't really want to lose him as a friend. But realistically, I don't know if it's possible without overstepping boundaries at some point. Or further getting my feelings hurt. Girl Like you know That you clearly Don't need this boy Who doesn't know If he's coming or going And you don't need to be friends With someone like that Yeah And the fact that you're Focusing more on the Kissing fucking element Tells me that you don't Really care about The friendship that much maybe Well it's just like If you Yeah if you can't be close To someone without Kissing or fucking And you know that you Can't be friends And you can't be friends If he wants to be friends Yeah Process of elimination Yeah But it's like Also be kind to yourself And be nice to yourself But he sounds like A very like Someone who's very inconclusive You deserve someone who is conclusive um and ultimately like like if he wants to be friends and he'll say if he doesn't want to then he doesn't have to be but i think you deserve a bit better than being messed around because he's panicking like you deserve better than that babe yeah and if he really cared about being friends with you as you kind of allude to he probably wouldn't have done the breakup over the phone well exactly so you deserve better break up over the phone uh never done it i love a breakup in real life.

1:00:45I think you have to. It's a celebration. Yeah. But yeah, it's one of those things, isn't it? This sort of thing. No, I was broke up over the phone. I hate to break up over the phone. Really? I got broken up with over text my last relationship before Bill. We were on and off like years and then like the final time he broke up with me over text and I was... That's bad. And then I went to me and told him how human I was and he was so surprised that I was angry. I was furious. and at the end he tried to, because it was when I started first growing on social media and then he tried to give me advice for my music career.

1:01:21And he said, don't let them change you and shit like this. I said, them? Who? The Illuminati? Fucking dick. The NBs. He was the one that said to me when we started being friends that you were just trying to fuck me. Oh yeah, I know. I know. I was. Yeah. He was right. He was right. It's one of those things, isn't it? That's like, I think we've recently got to the age in life where this suddenly stops being a thing yeah or maybe that we've just kind of well you found a good relationship I've just kind of found I don't know, God where it's like when you're young you're kind of like I like this friend but now it doesn't really seem like at all of a dilemma for us.

1:02:11It's like, and you look back in retrospective and it's like, or you look at a friend in this situation and you're like, obviously get rigged. Like, you don't even like them that much as a friend. I think that's the only thing that complicates it at all is like, if you really want to be friends with this person still, it's clearly a no on both fronts in our opinion, I think. But it's just something that takes you a while to realise when you're a wee body lass. That was a really nice point. Thanks. It is just, from your older siblings here, I would just say, just get rid. There's just no point in...

1:02:44Uncle and aunt. It hurts, but like, I honestly would have no... Like, dating now, like, if I was dating now, I'd literally have no time for it. I'll fuck off then. Especially knowing what you've got. You've got a lot of things going for you, babe. If someone's not interested in you, like... Why do you want them? Why do you want them? That's the most unattractive thing. Yeah. The minute someone doesn't find them... What, are you a rapist? Yeah. What? someone doesn't want to have sex with you and you still want to fuck them yeah maybe right next one hi Susan and losing writing in from Australia with love and an agony aunt for you sorry it's a long one love Australia love Australia I'm noticing a little trend we're getting more Australian fans at the moment if you're Australian hey hi hello hello Hello?

1:03:37How the fuck are you? Hang on! Should we go to Melbourne? Should we go to Melbourne? Oh yeah, should we do a tour? Oh, a tour would be fucking grand. That would be sick. I mean, I think our listeners in London would be a bit annoyed, actually. But if you're Australian and you listen to the podcast, tell us what's happening in Melbourne or wherever the fuck you're from. Yeah, where we need to go. Say hey, what should we talk about? Where should we go? Right. I'm a 22 year old girl who's been going through a lot of different social scenes and phases of my life I've recently had a falling out with my best friends of 10 years I made the decision to step away from my friendship as I began to feel taken taken for granted and she always expected me to reshuffle plans to see her last minute when she would travel to the city I live in every time I raised an issue I would feel villainized for overly confrontational I would feel villainized for being overly confrontational or mean to her and end up having to be the one apologizing whilst I honestly feel relieved in the decision to step back from the friendship her being my oldest friend has made me reflect on how many friendships I've churned through in my life I am now terrified that I'm secretly the common denominator and expect too much in my friendships or somehow make things toxic any advice on knowing when it's you or when you've simply outgrown someone I actually do have a big take on this what?

1:04:56sorry yeah of course it's the first two I actually have a big take on it my thing is and in truth I think about this a lot and the reason I think about this a lot is when I think about my like longest friends I think about my friends from school like Christy who listens to this I love you and stuff but like the people that I like regularly see in my life my longest friend is like maybe nine years old like you know that I still see regular um yeah and so I think in a way I think about this a lot because I'm like have I like dumped everything to try to get where I need to be in life and I think about it a lot but the reason I think about it is because I'm like well yeah I did and sometimes like I understand what you're saying I think you're the lowest common denominator but where you need to head to have like emotional connections with someone it might just not be these people now don't get me wrong you could also I'm not saying you are a prick but I'm just saying like is I think you already asking yourself whether you're the lowest common denominator is a great thing because you're already like am i the issue and i i think that is in itself is you proving that you're not the issue but i do think about that often where i know people like i've had my same friends since i was in year two i don't have that anymore like i don't like i moved away from where i lived my parents moved from there like i don't see friends from school even though i love them i like the closest friend i have is from like college and even then we see each other like monthly if not like bi-monthly and so i often i do think i do think about that um but i think what you need to do is just reassure yourself and you you've done the right thing to step away from someone because i've also had friends over the years that are like i can't imagine my life without you and now we don't talk at all or you might even like know a friend through this friend and then become best friends with them like my best friend laura i used to have a best friend who introduced me laura and then like kind of as time went out like that person needed to take themselves away from london and did and then me and Laura haven't seen them in years you know but like and that was fine yeah and you just can't do anything about it that is just life it's when people naturally grow apart and then one of them is like what the fuck what the fuck like you changed up and it's like no this is a two way thing and we're drifting apart and also you might come back together later like that's a nice thing but you just have to if you're fine with it and then rock with it like there's not really much you can do nor say like you just have to get on with it i i understand what you're thinking i've had these thoughts before because i do i do think whether i've like shagged away all my mates and real like real connections to uh just to get where i need to be but like but ultimately i think i wanted what i have now more because i did it yeah you know like because i've done it like i did it like i can't sit there and be like oh my god what have i done like i i did it and i still have special connections and have rekindled with my school friends recently yeah but like i did dip for 10 years and i was a shit mate than my world like i disappeared and they'd do like meetups and stuff for people's birthdays and i wouldn't go like it was me i think i had to do it you know i think it would be let's be real right it's kind of boring if you're friends with the people you were friends with when you were four years old yeah it gives like not moved on yeah yeah i agree like yeah you are you really developing as a person if you're just keeping that obviously like if you're from middle of nowhere small town and you stay in a small town then that's you know you kind of got what you got type shit but um i don't think i don't think you should blame yourself for wanting to be kind of falling out of changing and this person changing and that's absolutely fine.

1:08:45I think there's a difference between you know, I don't know I don't hang out with many people I went to school with but at the same time because I don't know, I don't feel like I have that much in common with them maybe, but like that doesn't mean I resent them and if I saw them in the street I'd be like hey and it doesn't mean, I guess it's what I'm trying to say is that there's like, just because you've had a falling out with this person that won't be the case forever and i think more widely it's like people that you know from your childhood or like people that you maybe feel like guilty about drifting apart from it's like it doesn't mean they're like your enemy now it's like you can you can still see them and have a chat and a catch up it's just like you don't have that much much in common you don't have that like many friends in common much like things to do to each other and then it's like as life goes on you realize that like maybe you've got enough friends or like you're moving in a different direction and that's just the circle of life and it's boring to be friends with your school friends anyway so

1:09:49but you may be the problem you may be the problem but that's worth checking I think good for you for checking but I think ultimately you checking is like a good thing if there is a common denominator you'll be able to see it like in the way it's ended with different people you said this has happened with multiple people if they've all got a similar diagnosis of it that may be something and then you react to that and you're like do I agree with that and then you go do I care and then you go from there exactly because you got big back and you live in Australia you got the sun babe it's fine and with that you've been watching Straight Diva you've been watching Straight Diva I don't know what the next episode will be or when it'll be well it'll be next week we'll have shit Yeah, we have shit.

1:10:35We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Bye. Love you.