In short
Stuff You Should Know’s “Selects: Birthmarks: Probably Not the Mark of the Devil” explains what birthmarks are, how they’re classified, which ones fade, and when they can signal a health issue. Hosts Josh Clark and Charles “Chuck” Bryan discuss their own experiences (a birthmark-like spot under Chuck’s armpit; Josh’s skin tags) and emphasize that most birthmarks are harmless and non-painful.
Key claims and examples
Birthmarks fall into vascular (blood-vessel related, often reddish/purplish) and pigmented (melanin related, often brown/gray/blue-gray). Vascular examples include “angel kisses”/“stork bites” (flat, often fade in early childhood) and port-wine stains (can darken, rarely linked to Sturge-Weber syndrome; about 6% of port-wine stain cases develop it). Strawberry marks are hemangiomas (raised, appear within weeks, often fade by childhood). Pigmented examples include café-au-lait spots (light brown; six or more can suggest neurofibromatosis type 1) and Mongolian spots (bluish-gray on lower back/buttocks; fade by ~6–7). Moles (nevi) include congenital, acquired, and atypical; atypical moles can be associated with melanoma.
Guests
No guests; only the hosts (Josh Clark, Charles W. “Chuck” Bryan, and Jerry).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOHosts Share Personal Stories about Birthmarks
2:39 to 4:27
Chuck and Josh discuss their personal experiences with birthmarks and skin tags.
“Well, I mean, I have two things in front of me.”
Social Perception of Birthmarks
4:28 to 7:20
Discussion on societal reactions and stigmas associated with birthmarks.
“He's like, if you want to make that other appointment.”
Historical Context of Birthmarks
7:21 to 8:41
Exploration of how birthmarks have been viewed throughout history.
“Well, that's basically what a mole is, which is a type of birthmark if you're born with it.”
Types of Birthmarks
8:42 to 11:29
Overview of different types of birthmarks and their characteristics.
“And rather than belt him, she would just give him a card and then just probably go home and weep or something like that.”
Understanding Port Wine Stains
11:30 to 14:00
In-depth discussion on port wine stains and their genetic implications.
“they come later in life, although freckles can start out very early, but it's still not a birthmark because you're not born with that mark.”
Understanding Birthmarks: Vascular vs. Pigmented
14:00 to 20:31
Learn the differences between vascular and pigmented birthmarks and their health implications.
“It's in the same category as macular because they're vascular.”
The Science of Pigmented Birthmarks
22:59 to 28:00
Dive into what causes pigmented birthmarks and their characteristics.
“If anyone misses that question on the quiz tomorrow.”
Sushi Rice Tips and Ingredients
28:00 to 29:04
Learn how to make sushi rice and where to find sushi ingredients.
“Usually you just do a one-to-one rice-to-water ratio.”
Understanding Cafe au Lait Birthmarks
29:04 to 30:18
Explore what cafe au lait birthmarks are and their significance.
“They are the color of a cafe au lait, kind of a light brown.”
Mongolian Spots Explained
30:18 to 31:28
Discover the appearance and commonality of Mongolian spots in children.
“I said that a million times in my head too.”
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Types of Moles and Their Characteristics
31:28 to 32:52
Learn about different types of moles and their features.
“and so you've got that same thing going on like you have with the hemangiomas.”
Atypical Moles and Melanoma Risk
32:52 to 34:26
Understand atypical moles and their connection to melanoma.
“And I learned that on the Dollar Shave Club blog.”
The PR of Different Cancers
34:26 to 35:48
Discuss how cancer awareness varies across types, focusing on melanoma.
“Because a lot of people don't know this, but an atypical mole is associated with melanoma.”
Celebrity Birthmarks and Cultural Perception
35:48 to 37:31
Examine the cultural views on birthmarks and celebrity influences.
“What I couldn't figure out was what is the quote-unquote beauty mark?”
Medical Monitoring of Birthmarks
38:50 to 42:00
Learn how doctors monitor birthmarks and treatment options available.
“And dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.”
Understanding Birthmarks and Treatments
42:00 to 43:36
Learn about the different types of birthmarks and their treatment options.
“And there go the cells or the blood vessels that make up the cells.”
Cultural Perspectives on Birthmarks
43:36 to 45:12
Explore societal attitudes towards birthmarks and skin camouflage.
“They don't want to have to get used to it.”
Superstitions and Folklore Around Birthmarks
45:12 to 46:32
Discover the superstitions and folklore associated with birthmarks worldwide.
“So the superstitions we were talking about, I know we mentioned a couple early on.”
Birthmarks and Past Lives: A Fascinating Tale
46:32 to 48:53
Hear a compelling story linking birthmarks to past life experiences.
“There's this thing called the doctrine of science where, like, if a food looked like a body part, it was associated with helping to heal that body part.”
Historical Perspectives on Birthmarks
48:53 to 50:15
Learn about the historical significance of birthmarks in nobility.
“That's subscribed to that time-life books of like paranormal phenomena.”
Promoting Acceptance of Differences
50:15 to 50:56
Discuss the importance of accepting and respecting individuals with visible differences.
“I think we just should close by really like stressing to any kids listening and parents of children.”
Transcript
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2:06And so that's what I'm going to do. And I think you should too.
2:13Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.
2:23Chuck Bryant:Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryan over there, and there's Jerry. Jerry's back, everybody. That's right. And all the listeners said, what happened to Josh T.? What are we doing? Did we decide? Yeah, we're going to do birthmarks. Okay, great. Check the title, Chuck. Well, I mean, I have two things in front of me. How are you doing? I'm great. How are you? I'm good. You got any birthmarks? I do. What you got? I've got something under my right armpit. You're like, it looks like Richard Nixon. Close. It looks like Spiro Agnew. Do you remember when Mad Magazine used to make fun of Spiro Agnew?
3:05Chuck Bryant:And you're like, I have no idea who that is. I think it was the name maybe. No, it was because they hated his politics. Yeah, well, that too. But then there was a Simpsons where Milhouse is like, they're making fun of Spiro Agnew again. He must work there or something. And I remember specifically thinking that he must work there. Oh, he referenced Mad Magazine? Mm-hmm. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. So you've got an under-your-armpit birthmark? Yeah. How about you? I don't think I do, actually. What I have a lot of now, because I'm an old man speeding toward death, are skin tags. Oh, yeah. Those are not birthmarks.
3:43Around the neck and armpit. That's where they tend to gather. That's just your skin, you know? Really going at it. I used to have them clipped, and I did that for a while, but it's been a while. But now I went in recently. It was so annoying. It was one of these, our medical system is just broken. It was one of those reminders because I went in to get it taken care of like I usually do, and I got in, and the guy was like, oh, well, we don't do this now unless you make another kind of appointment. I was like, well, can I just make this that since I'm here sitting in your office? He's like, no, no, no, those take much longer.
4:17These are just 10-minute appointments. And that'll take like an hour. And some of them have their own vascular system, so they need to be cauterized. And I was like, oh, okay. So I'm just leaving? And he was like, yes. He's like, if you want to make that other appointment. And then they refunded the money for that appointment, which was nice. Oh, there you go.
4:35Chuck Bryant:That was nice. The copay. But then he said, make the longer appointment if you want to come back. Huh. So are you going to? Yeah, you know. I mean, they're not like medically dangerous or anything. but they're rather unsightly. It's fine. When they get long and big. Well, long, sure. I mean, how long are we talking? I mean, some of the ones are like, you know, quarter inch. So, okay, I was just about to say how big that was. Let me see if I can figure it out in metric. It's a few centimeters, I think, is what you just did. Yeah, I want to get them clipped again. So I'm going to make that longer appointment, and I think it will be painful.
5:14Is it painful? I've never had one clipped. The regular clipping, the small ones aren't a big deal because they just hit it with a little quick shot and then clip it, and it's no big deal.
5:23Chuck Bryant:What kind of a shot? Like a needle, like a little numbing thing. Okay, I got you. Like with a needle. Like lidocaine. Whatever, I don't know. They don't spray it with the freezy stuff. No, you're thinking of this stuff for athlete's foot. This is like a shot, lidocaine. But anyway, the ones that are big that require cauterizing, I'm sure that doesn't feel great, even if they've numbed it up. You just get the acetylene torch out. And imagine I'll have to shave my armpits because if you're torching something near armpit hair. Plus you just want to look good. Maybe. I've never shaved my pits. Might start that.
6:00Chuck Bryant:Why not? I'll bet that's itchy, though. Yeah, maybe. Anytime you shave something and it starts to grow out, it's itchy. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. So I used to get warts actually when I was a kid. Oh, yeah? And I remember going into the dermatologist and they'd go into the freezer and put on these huge rubber gloves and pull out like this thermos of, I want to say nitroglycerin, but that's not it. No. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, the cold stuff. Yeah. And it would freeze my wart basically right off right there. Yeah, yeah. It would just kind of sting for a second and that was it.
6:34Chuck Bryant:I never really had warts. Believe me, buddy, you lucked out. Because if you're a little kid in grade school and you have, like, it wasn't, like, it wasn't coated with them. Right. But, you know, like, I'd get one, like, here between my forefinger and my thumb. Yeah. Or I had one on my elbow or something like that. Just ammo for jerks. Other kids zero in on that stuff. Uh-huh. And you're the little weird kid who's already the fat kid now with warts. New and improved. I had freckles a lot more than I do now because freckles tend to fade as you get older. And freckles are, I guess, a kind of—well, they're not a kind of birthmark because you're not born with freckles.
7:16But I did look into it. Freckles are just an abundance of melanin, like, collected together.
7:21Chuck Bryant:Well, that's basically what a mole is, which is a type of birthmark if you're born with it. That's right. I love freckles, though. Freckles are great. I think freckles are super cute. Freckles are great. Moles are great. Birthmarks, especially interesting ones, are great. Warts are great. That's why the term warts and all came about. It's true. Because that's how you should love. It is true, Chuck. Man, quit making fun of people, kids. Well, that's the thing. They're so mean. Birthmarks have been around since the dawn of humanity. I'm guessing. And people have probably been ostracized because of their birthmarks since the dawn of humanity.
7:57Chuck Bryant:And for a very long time, people were ostracized for their birthmarks because of some really stupid ideas, like it meant you were a witch. Right. Or it meant you were touched by Satan. All sorts of stuff like that. And then over time, it got a little more innocuous. But even still today, there are parts of the world where you can find people who are ostracized because of their birthmarks. And then even in the developed world, the Western world, which is rational and based more on science, you can still find yourself, you know, at the receiving end of being ostracized. Maybe not because you're a witch, but just because you have a birthmark or you look different.
8:35Chuck Bryant:And so— I've seen parents react to it if their baby has like a strawberry mark on their head. Yes. Like I've seen them feel the need to say like, oh, you know, this, you know, will go away or something like that. I was reading this birthmark support group from Great Britain, and they were saying this one mom had cards printed up explaining what her child's birthmark was because sometimes she just couldn't, she just didn't have it together enough to have a conversation with a stranger who'd walked up and been like, what's up with your kid's face? And rather than belt him, she would just give him a card and then just probably go home and weep or something like that.
9:10Chuck Bryant:Knowing, not for herself, but the life that her kid was going to have to face, not because her kid has a birthmark, but because the rest of the world are schmucks. Yes. That's the long and short of it. That's right. All right, children are mean. We managed to find a soapbox even in the birthmarks episode. I bet a kid, probably a collection of kids, could still make you cry if they started it on. I'd just start kicking, throwing elbows. I'd just hold my arms out and start twirling around really fast, and whatever got hit, got hit. People would be like, is Josh fighting a bunch of children? I'd be like, yeah, they made fun of them.
9:45Chuck Bryant:Yeah, they'd be like, I shoved one in a grocery store once. Oh, man, I'll never forget that lady. So let's talk birthmarks, Chuck. Like it turns out, there's a lot to know. Yeah, they're usually not a big deal. They aren't painful. They're usually harmless. A lot of times they go away. We're going to detail the ones that do and that don't go away and the ones that are of more concern. But generally speaking, science doesn't really know why they come about to begin with. But they are something that doctors will sometimes want to keep an eye on. And that's the intro. That's intro number seven. Yeah, there's a couple of big categories, vascular and pigmented.
10:33And let's talk about some of these. Vascular are usually reddish because they have to do with blood vessels.
10:40Chuck Bryant:Yeah, I think reddish is a very common, when you think birthmarks, you think reddish typically. I think brownish. Brownish too. Apparently they can come in a whole rainbow of colors. Blue, brown, black, pink. Yeah. White, although I take issue with that, purplish or tan. And I take issue with white because I think white is like a reverse birthmark, although technically it would still count as a birthmark. So the whole rest of your body is a birthmark and that one little spot is okay? That's right. Birthmarks tend to be an aggregation of either pigment or blood, as we'll see. Yeah. And white is like an area where pigment is absent.
11:19Chuck Bryant:So I guess it still counts as a birthmark, but it's not really a birthmark if you go into a dermatologist's office. Right. They'll be like, you got this all wrong. And like we said, the skin tags and freckles and things like that, they come later in life, although freckles can start out very early, but it's still not a birthmark because you're not born with that mark. Yeah, and even as we'll see, some types of moles don't technically qualify as birthmarks, even though they typically fall under the banner of birthmarks. You have to be born with something for it to count as a birthmark. That's right.
11:52Chuck Bryant:Although that's not even fully true, as we'll see. This is just full of lies. Everybody who studies birthmarks needs to get their stuff together. So the macular, they're called flat sometimes, macular stains. And we're in the vascular category, right? Yes, right. This is the non-pigmented. These are usually caused by enlarged blood vessels. These have some cute names that go along with them. Love them. Uh, uh, angel kisses. Great. Uh, I think some of these can be because of where they're found. Although I've heard people cross-referencing, like I think an angel kiss is usually on the forehead.
12:30Chuck Bryant:Oh, really? But not always. A stork bite is usually on the back of the neck. Oh, that makes sense. But I've also, when you Google stork bite, there are some like right on the tip of the nose and people call them that. I took it to me more like, um, that those, those names were, um, derived from the age that they're like kids who are born with this and then it tends to go away at an early age. That's what it's associated with. You know, like the stork brings the baby. And the angels. Well, angels love babies. What about the salmon patch? I don't understand it at all. They are usually above the neck.
13:07They usually, or a lot of times they'll disappear and fade away by the time they're two, three years old, but not always. Sometimes they'll last.
13:17Chuck Bryant:Yeah, but for the most part, if you have a macular, flat, vascular birthmark on your kid, they're probably going to outgrow it is just really no other way to put it. They outgrow that birthmark eventually. That's right. Most often. Port wine stains are a whole different ballgame. Yes. They look like kind of what they sound like. They're usually kind of a purplish red where it looks like, well, port or wine has been spilled. I would know nothing about what a wine spill looks like. Sure, right? Because you never, ever spill all your wine. It all makes it into your mouth. That's right. I've seen it.
13:54Chuck Bryant:So Port Weinstein, I say that it's like a whole different kettle of fish. It's in the same category as macular because they're vascular. It's like an aggregation of overdeveloped blood vessels kind of close to the skin. but they seem to come from like a whole different place. There's a whole different reason. And in fact, we should say this, Chuck, because this is really important. If you go up to a dermatologist or anybody who would know what they're talking about and you say, hey, where do birthmarks come from? What causes birthmarks? They would say, we actually don't know. The closest that they've come is with port wine stains from what I can tell.
14:40Chuck Bryant:They figured out that there's a gene where this molecular switch that's supposed to go on and off is locked in the on position. And they think that this is what causes port wine stains. And the reason that they found it is because about 6 % of kids who are born with the port wine stain birthmark develop something called Sturge-Weber syndrome, which is a neurological condition. Oh, interesting. And if you have a Port Weinstein birthmark, it does not mean you have Sturge-Weber. But if you have Sturge-Weber, you have a Port Wein birthmark. Gotcha. 6 % of Port Wein birthmarks cases have Sturge-Weber.
15:20Chuck Bryant:It's actually a symptom. But 100 % of people with that condition have the Port Weinstein. Yeah. And so in investigating the syndrome and the link between it and the Port Weinstein birthmark, they found this gene that they think is the culprit. All right. Well, they never go away. A lot of times they'll get darker as you become older. And these are not a big deal health-wise either, unless it's something near your eyes that can affect your vision. And then they might want to take a look at it. I also saw that in some cases they can start to get lumpy and actually become disfiguring as you age, too.
15:58Chuck Bryant:I did see those. And they can also, once they lump, they can scar, too. So a lot of people seek treatment for port wine stain birth marks, as we'll see. Yeah, strawberry marks is what I referenced at the beginning. You might see these on little BBs. They are hemangiomas. Is that right? Yeah. And these, most of the times, I saw even less than 30%, but it says here 30 % are visible at birth. Most of the times, though, they'll develop between four and six weeks. Right. And I think by the time you hit six months, if you're going to have one, it will be visible by that point. Right. You won't develop one of these at like the one year mark.
16:38Chuck Bryant:No. But again, there's that one, there's that loophole where it's like you, it still counts as a birthmark, even though you weren't technically born with it. Drives me up the wall. Right. And these are a little more reddish. And you've probably seen these, like I said, on babies before because they're, you know, they're pretty common. they're raised off the skin. That's kind of one of the differentiators is they're not flat. Right. So like hemagium, I've said it like five times in my head. Hemagiomas? 50 times probably. Yes, and I can't say it out loud. Hemagiomas, macular and port wine stains, like we said, these are all overdeveloped blood vessels, clusters of blood vessels.
17:26Chuck Bryant:That's right. They're from blood vessels. That's like the sixth time we said that. Which is why they have that reddish pigment is because the blood is close enough to the skin and it's clustered together. It's kind of almost pooled right there, right? That's right. But it's not like a bruise or anything like that. The blood hasn't escaped the vessel. There's just a lot of vessels or big vessels all clumped together near the skin. What's interesting about hemangiomas, I did it, Chuck. Hemangiomas. Nice work. Thanks. Hemangiomas. Oh, man. Did I miss it twice? I think there's an N in there that is being forgotten.
18:03Chuck Bryant:What's interesting about what you just mentioned is that in some cases, they can extend down into the body. And the further they extend down, they won't be reddish. They'll be bluish. Yeah. And they can even be on the organs. It's pretty rare, but it happens. It is. And they can be threatening on the organs. You don't want to have a cluster of blood vessels on your organs. But back to the blue part. So the reason that they look blue is because, as everybody knows, blood on its way back to the lungs to be oxygenated is blue. That's right. That's not true. I'm sorry to set you up like that. I thought it was true up until this morning.
18:45That's why your veins are blue. It's not. And as soon as you get cut and it hits that sweet, sweet oxygen, it just transforms into red. That's what you thought, right? That's not what I thought as an adult, but that's what I thought as a small child. That's what I thought until this morning. No. Yeah. Come on, you knew that. No.
19:01Chuck Bryant:Really? Yes. You thought blood was blue. Yes, I thought deoxygenated blood was blue. Wow. Okay, well, do you understand why it appears blue? Well, I mean, no, but I just knew that that was like a playground falsehood. Well, I was too busy. Because veins are blue. thinking about how many borts I was covered with to learn this. You're like, I'm going to draw some sweet blue blood out of that jerk. With my fist. The reason it's blue is because the deeper it is, the less blue light is able to penetrate. So the less that can be absorbed, and so the light that's reflected tends to be blue more than say like red, which penetrates deeper and is absorbed.
19:45That has to do with blue foods too, which is a bit for the next episode. Thank you. Just put a pin in that. Yeah. These strawberry marks, though, back to those, they will disappear usually by the time a kid is, like, into double digits. If they're large, sometimes you might see a scar. These are around the head and neck as well and are most commonly found on Caucasian girls. But they're not – they don't have a real impact on development either. But if they are really big and puffy, again, they could, and around the eyes or ears, they could interfere with hearing and vision and stuff like that.
20:22Chuck Bryant:Right, yeah, and if they're on your internal organs, it's a problem. Yes. So I think we should take a break because astoundingly we're 20 minutes in and we have not taken a break. Wow. So we'll be back to birthmarks right after this.
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22:58Okay, to recap, remember, vascular blood birthmarks are reddish because of blood vessels. Precisely. If anyone misses that question on the quiz tomorrow.
23:09Chuck Bryant:So you're toast. It's not our fault. So the other kind of birthmarks are pigmented birthmarks. Nothing to do with blood vessels. Well, I don't know. There could be a blood vessel or two involved, but no, not really. No, this is because like Freckles, like I was talking about, is just a collection of melanin that's brought out by sun exposure. Yeah, and you have melanocytes, melanin cells, melatonin cells, or melanin, one of the two, all over your body. It gives you like the color to your skin. and some people have more, some people have less, but everybody has them. But like you were saying, when they kind of congregate together, that's when they form these pigmented spots that we know as birthmarks.
23:50Right. We are in our house, my daughter's at the age now where she has started to notice skin color.
23:57Chuck Bryant:Oh, yeah? Which is something that, you know, every parent has to deal with at some point. Sure. And that's how it was recommended to us to talk about it was scientifically. Being like, hey, everyone's the same. which got different skin tones because of science. Some people have more melanin than other people. Is that why you had me over to dinner and started asking me about that? Yeah. You just wound me up and knew I'd go, huh? That's right. But, I mean, that is tricky stuff for parents because what you're really talking about is the first talks of race. Right. You know? Yeah. And you have to do it in such a way that diffuses it almost.
24:36It's just like, no, everyone's the same. Right. Some people are lighter skinned. Some people are darker skinned. Yeah. Both of her best friends, though, are multiracial, which helps. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Because we can say, you know, your friend, blank. I'm not going to say names. Jerry blank? She has two friends. They're both named blank. Weird. But you can just say, you know, her skin is a little darker than yours. Right. Because, you know, when you see her parents and try to explain all that, and kids are like, oh, okay.
25:03Chuck Bryant:Yeah. How does this matter? Why does this have to do with Big Bird? Yeah, exactly. Can I please get back to it? Why is Big Bird yellow? That's a great question. But these have some cute names too, and they're almost, well, that's not true. I was going to say they're named because of what they look like, but really just the one is. Yeah, there's really just two types of pigmented birthmarks or broad categories of it. Yes, the very Parisian café latte. Café au lait. Oh, café au lait. Sorry, I misread that. It's all right. A latte's different. This has nothing to do with vascular aggregations of blood vessels.
25:39No. And do you get confused on coffee orders or do you know all that stuff? I'm pretty good with it. I don't know what any of them are. Like anytime someone—
25:49Chuck Bryant:It's all just differing amounts of milk, steamed milk. Yeah, but like when I hear like a macchiato or an americano, I don't even know what these things are. A shot of espresso or multiple shots of espresso with ultra hot water. Right. That's an Americano. I think that's what our friend Chad Crowley drinks. It's just a really, really, really hot black coffee. Okay. That's all. Interesting. Macchiato, you got me. Yeah, I don't know. Like cappuccino, there's like more foam than milk. Latte is more milk than foam. Yeah, yeah. I know those two. It's all just milk or foam or coffee. What's a café au lait?
26:30Chuck Bryant:Café au lait is simply coffee with milk. That's it. Really? That's literally what it means in French. Is that like the, what's it called in Spanish? Café con leche. Okay, that's the same thing then? Coffee with milk. Okay. I am a dummy. I haven't been drinking coffee that long. It's not that. It's just, it's not that. As you can see, I'm still drinking my café latte from this morning. Those are great, aren't they? And it's still hot thanks to, and I'll go ahead and plug it, the Zoji Rushi. And I've plugged this on our page before. I'm like, if you like your coffee hot all day, get one of these little thermoses.
27:09This thing keeps this thing hot for 10 hours. It really does. Yeah.
27:13Chuck Bryant:So much so, I have the same one. Yumi has the little pink one. It's cute. When I pour coffee in, I have to like pour the coffee into a mug to let it cool off. Right. I have to put it in there. Because you won't be able to drink it. No. No. Like maybe the next day you could. Right. It keeps it that hot for sure. We need to get them as a sponsor, man. They also make out-of-this-world rice cookers, too. Yeah. Well, no, I'm not sure if that's the one I have or another one. Tiger? Those are the two best ones, in my opinion. I can't remember. I'll have to look. But all I know is the one I have is very forgiving.
27:47Chuck Bryant:Yeah. You can be pretty off with your measurements, and it still makes perfect rice. You can use, like, buttermilk, and somehow it still comes out just great. Oh, man. Buttermilk? Buttermilk rice? That could be all right. Here's a little tip for you. You make sushi rice? Mm-hmm. Okay. Usually you just do a one-to-one rice-to-water ratio. Yeah. Then go in and just put like a teaspoon, half teaspoon even, depending on how tangy you want to be, of rice vinegar. Oh, well, sure. I usually add that after. No, no, you want to put it in. It just makes it together. Yeah. So you want to cook it with it?
28:23Yes. Okay. I used to make my own sushi rolls, and then I just got to the point where I was like.
28:28Chuck Bryant:It's not worth it? Yeah, it's just a lot easier to get sushi. Where did you get your seafood? Your sashimi, sorry. I would get that at the DeKalb Farmer's Market. I would get the tuna there and the crab sticks, which that's easy. You can get that at Kroger's. Sure. And the seaweed there. But then there's also a Japanese market nearby where I would get the eel to bake in the oven. Nice. But that's kind of as, you know, you could do spicy tuna, tuna, eel, and crab stick. Yeah. California rolls. I really want some sushi right now. We both eat a lot of sushi. Yeah? It's good. Okay, so cafe au lait birthmarks.
29:06So that is the cafe au lait. They are the color of a cafe au lait, kind of a light brown. Which means coffee with milk. Yep. And this is to me was, when I think birthmark, I think of these because it's just a little brown spot anywhere on the body.
29:22Chuck Bryant:Yeah, and I think one of the things we didn't say is with some of the birthmarks, there is kind of specific places that they'll appear. Yeah. Or they're tied to specific places usually. But with cafe au lait birthmarks in particular, they're just, they've got no rules. Forehead, butt cheek. Wherever. Wherever. And they apparently don't, there's nothing, there's no problem with them. But very much like the port wine stain birthmark, the cafe au lait spots are tied to a neurological, actually a nerve condition, where if you have six or more of these kinds of cafe au lait birthmarks, especially if they're larger than like a dime in an older kid, you want to go to see a doctor.
30:14Chuck Bryant:Yeah. because that could mean that you have something called neurofibromatosis. I said that a million times in my head too. You got to start saying things out loud. Also known as NF1. Yeah, it's easier. But NF1 is not even necessarily, it could be asymptomatic. Like if you're like, oh my gosh, I've got six or more cafe au lait birthmarks on me. Maybe I have neurofibromatosis. that it's not like a death sentence or anything like that. It's just go see a doctor. Right. The Mongolian spots are, these look like bruises to me. They can, if you don't know what you're looking at, it can be alarming because you see these pictures of babies that look like they're heavily bruised, kind of at the lower back, upper buttocks area.
31:02Yeah. But it is not bruising. They're bluish gray though. And like I said, usually on the lower back, I think African-Americans, African, Asian, and Hispanic kids, usually with darker skin, have more of them or more commonly have them. And these are the ones that fade out by the time they're like six or seven usually.
31:26Chuck Bryant:Yeah. And they're usually a bluish green because they're clusters of pigment cells together deep under the skin. and so you've got that same thing going on like you have with the hemangiomas. Nice. I got it this time. You got it. There's a good old-fashioned mole. This is a pigmented birthmark. Multiple of them are nevi, brown nevi, N-E-V-I, because a nevis is a single mole. Are any of these like band names? I don't think so, but very fortuitous mentioning of that because of listener mail later. All right. It is Latin for spot, and there are three categories. Mole is? Yes. Okay. No, nevi. I think mole is Latin for spot.
32:12Oh, is it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow. I was just about to make fun of you, too. I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad you didn't. Yeah, mole sounds real Latin. Wart boy. Aw. So there are three categories of moles, congenital, acquired, and atypical. The congenital, about 1 % of babies are born with these. and these are kind of all over the map as far as color and size. Some of them are hairy. Some of them are not hairy.
32:40Chuck Bryant:I saw that basically every congenital mole has a hair of some sort. It can be very, very fine. It can be thick. It can be coarse. It can be very dark. Yeah. Usually they're very dark because they're growing out of pigment cells that are like pigment away. That's right. And I learned that on the Dollar Shave Club blog. Oh. And they say also to just kind of pluck because shaving, if you're a man, like say you have one on your face or whatever, it can nick very frequently. Yeah. Well, I've got some of those skin tags that obviously I don't shave, so it's not a problem now. Well, maybe that's why you have skin tags.
33:15Chuck Bryant:If you shave, you just shave them off all the time, trim them down. I don't think that's why. No? No, the skin tags come from like clothing, rubbing against the skin. That's why they're around the neckline a lot of times or sometimes around the waistline. So, you know. But again, those aren't birthmarks. Okay. Those are old man marks. I got you. Acquired moles, they come around later in life as well. And this is not the same as a skin tag still. It is still a mole, and a lot of doctors think that this is from sun damage. Yes, but not necessarily cancerous. Right. Which leads us into the third type of mole, atypical moles.
34:01Chuck Bryant:These aren't necessarily cancerous either, but they're the kind you definitely want to keep an eye on. They'll be multiple colors or have some sort of color gradient in them. Their shape will be just kind of amorphous. Yeah, irregular. Yeah. They'll be just kind of, you'll be like, that don't look quite right. That's that kind of mole. And those are the kind that you definitely want to have a doctor check out. Because a lot of people don't know this, but an atypical mole is associated with melanoma. And melanoma is no joke. Yeah. I think a lot of people are like, no, it was nothing. Just go, you know, get it removed at the doctor.
34:42Chuck Bryant:No, melanoma can spread like lightning through your body. And it can be a real problem. It's a very serious thing to keep up with. Yeah. I've got a pretty sad situation with a family member with melanoma. Yeah. The treatment is going really well, but it has definitely opened my eyes to the fact that it's no joke. Yeah, I had no idea. Yumi opened my eyes. She had somebody that she lost to melanoma. Yeah, man, it happens. She thought the same thing. Like, oh, melanoma, and nope, that's not at all how it is. Which is really weird because somebody's dropping the ball because most people just think it's nothing.
35:16Chuck Bryant:Yeah, on messaging. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with myself, apparently. It's interesting that different kinds of cancer have better or worse PR. Yeah, great product, terrible marketing, right? Yeah. It's kind of what we're dealing with here. But I know that prostate cancer has often lagged behind breast cancer. Like breast cancer does a bang-up job of marketing and press and PR and awareness. So these, like you said, the doctors will want to monitor these over time. What I couldn't figure out was what is the quote-unquote beauty mark? Is that an acquired mole? I think a beauty mark is any kind of mole that you're basically like, I'm living with this and I'm loving every minute of it.
36:05It's so interesting how that has become a thing.
36:08Chuck Bryant:I was trying to figure out where it went back to. Obviously Marilyn Monroe really kind of popularized that. Right. She had one, didn't she? I think it predated her. Like Liz Taylor is at least contemporary, if not predating. Does she have one? Yeah. Okay. She's very famous for one. And then like even still today, Cindy Crawford. ScarJo. Sure. Who else? Oh, Natalie Portman apparently has them like on her face. Interesting. I went over this list of celebrities. I was like celebrity birthmarks. The only one that comes up though is Moles. And Spiro Agnew. I could not, I couldn't find any like well-known celebrities with birthmarks.
36:45Chuck Bryant:Right. Like birthmarks, birthmarks, like facial birthmarks. Yeah. I couldn't think of one either. I couldn't find any. Well, that's probably because of the prejudice against them. I would guess so, yeah, which is sad. Yeah. It reminded me, though, Chuck, didn't one of the Fat Albert gang have a birthmark on his face? I don't know. Was he the guy that pulled his toboggan cap over his face? No, I think that was Mushmouth. Because you never see his face at all. Well, then how would you know if he had a birthmark? I don't know. I just thought that might have been like a backstory or something. I think this just went off the rails enough for a message break, don't you?
37:25Sure. Yeah, we'll be back right after this and we'll talk about treatment and what I think is a pretty interesting thing, superstitions throughout history about birthmarks. Agreed.
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39:58All right. So like we said about most of these birthmarks, usually medical treatment is not necessary, but some are monitored over time. And what doctors will do, obviously, is examine them, take some pictures, and then just sort of follow that over time, that same routine to see if they're changing and to see if they're getting bigger or changing shape or anything unusual.
40:23Chuck Bryant:That's a wait and see. Yes, exactly. If you have hemangiomas, they will frequently use, like a port wine stain is something that a lot of people go seek treatment for. because it's often on the face, the neck, the head. And it actually responds pretty well to a laser treatment, something called the Pulsed Dye Laser. Is this like the same tattoo treatment or no? Probably. Because that's pretty painful, right? Oh, yes. Like, I can't imagine, because it says children a lot of times can be treated with this laser treatment, but man. I know, it's sad. It feels a lot like having hot bacon grease splashing on your skin.
41:03Chuck Bryant:That's what getting a laser or tattoo removed with a laser. But without the knowledge that like in a couple of minutes I'm going to be eating some sweet bacon. More like the only silver lining to it is that a pig didn't die for you to be in that situation. You know what I mean? Right. Or I won't have whatever tattoo I obviously don't want on my body anymore. That's the reward there. Right. So if that is the case then, if it is the same feeling as that, then yeah, I feel bad for little kids who get that. But that's the best time to start this treatment is when the child is young. Because again, what you're doing is you're using a pulse dye laser, which uses a certain frequency or spectrum wavelength of light that is targeted so that that birthmark will absorb that light.
41:52Chuck Bryant:The surrounding skin is a different pigment, so it won't absorb that light like the birthmark will. And that energy, that light energy is translated into heat energy in the birthmark. And there go the cells or the blood vessels that make up the cells. And after enough treatments, you've hopefully broken up the hemangioma or the port wine stain. And like the birthmark will go away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that? That was me. I think the, no, it was me. No, that was mine. Well, then we just had a simultaneous stomach growl because my stomach just growled at the same time. Wow. Are we like synced up after 12 years of podcasting together?
42:33So if you are getting something removed, it's usually a vascular birthmark. Generally, they don't try and get rid of pigmented birthmarks, although it's possible, I think, but usually doctors don't treat that.
42:45Chuck Bryant:No, but if you have a child with, say, a cafe au lait birthmark on their face, the doctor's not going to be like, no, we're not doing that. They'll probably try to work it out. But the results are not nearly as reliable as with vascular birthmarks, which have to do with blood vessels beneath the skin clustered together, overdeveloped, that kind of thing. Or what your doctor might say is, you know what? This thing's on your forehead. Grow your bangs out until you get old enough to where you accept this as like an individual trait that you're proud of. There's something called the British Association of Skin Camouflage that is dedicated to helping people, actually training makeup artists on how to cover birthmarks.
43:35Chuck Bryant:Because for some people, they'll just never get used to it. They don't want to have to get used to it. They'd just rather cover it up. And that's their right. That's their prerogative. It's their birthmark. They can do whatever they want with it. And so the average makeup artist doesn't know how to do that. It actually takes special skills apparently. And so there's groups who train people to do that. We should do, I don't know if it's a short stuff or full length, but we should do something on vitiligo. Yeah. I had a friend in L.A. who had vitiligo. And, again, like the same with some of this stuff.
44:08It's such a forward-facing thing if it's on your face. And it's a big deal to people. It's an important issue because, like, the bullying, like we were talking about, or just kids and adults remaining self-conscious about that kind of thing. Right. It's sad.
44:26Chuck Bryant:It is sad. Agreed. I think we could all do a lot better at accepting people with facial differences is what it's called. Yeah. There's something on facial differences. I don't remember what it was, but I know I've mentioned this group before, changingfaces.org. Yeah, it's awesome. Their whole thing is like, hey, actually, it's funny. They promote skin camouflage if you want it, but their big push is like, Like, hey, rest of society, like there's nothing different about these people except for their face. Like they're not cognitively challenged. They're not disabled in any way or differently able.
45:01Chuck Bryant:Like their face is different for any number of reasons. And it's really kind of on the rest of you to get over it. Yeah. You know, which I think is the healthiest approach, if you ask me. So the superstitions we were talking about, I know we mentioned a couple early on. like that you were touched by the devil. That was real stuff in some cultures. In China, there were some quirky ones, like if you have a right foot birthmark, it means you're adventurous. If it's on the left foot, it means you're really smart. If it's on your tum-tums, it means you're greedy. And this is just sort of culture and folklore.
45:41Chuck Bryant:Sure. And the world around, so because we can't explain what birthmarks or where they come from, all over the world. People, societies have said it's something the mom did while she was pregnant. Of course. And so we came up with all sorts of dipstick ideas for exactly what the mom did wrong to explain birthmarks. Yeah. One of my favorites is that the mom was startled and touched her face. Oh, so the baby. And at the exact same moment, the baby's blood vessels at that point in the baby's face formed a birthmark. It's very scientific. It is. Or how about this? If you have a strawberry mark as a baby, it's because mom ate too many red things.
46:20Chuck Bryant:Yeah. Can't lay off the strawberries. Or port wine stain. They couldn't lay off the wine. Yeah. Or coffee. Cafe au lait coffee. That's so on the nose. Like, come on, people. It is. There's this thing called the doctrine of science where, like, if a food looked like a body part, it was associated with helping to heal that body part. Like beets are good for the blood or something like that. Or avocados are good for the testicles. Exactly. I was hoping you would bring that up. Let me see. What else? In Japan, if a pregnant woman looked at a fire or into a flame of some kind, they thought that might cause a burn mark on the baby's skin.
47:05Yep. And I think some of these carry forward a little bit even today.
47:08Chuck Bryant:Well, the x-ray one is obviously fairly modern. Oh, sure. Like the explanation is that the mom got an x-ray while she was pregnant, and it basically left a mark on the baby. Yeah. That is not true. That is not true. No. The one that really has always stuck out to me, and it reminded me of this case I want to tell you about, is this idea that a birthmark is actually a mark left over from a past life. This is pretty neat. Like if you have a birthmark that looks like a bullet hole in your back, that means you were shot in the back in a past life. And not just like that's what that means. Like there are – I really hesitate to use this word.
47:48Chuck Bryant:There are documented cases of this happening. Supposedly there is this kid in Syria who was born with like a kind of like a slash-like birthmark, I think, on the back of his head. And apparently from a very early age when the kid like was able to start to talk, started recounting being murdered with an ax. Oh, interesting. And then started talking about the village where he used to live and what his name was. And? And then the guy that killed him. And it was enough, allegedly, that the village elders where this kid lived were like, we need to go check this out. So they traveled to that other village.
48:26Chuck Bryant:And they said, does so-and-so live here? And they're like, yeah, he lives over there. And it's like, well, did somebody else named this live here once? They're like, yes, he died. He vanished mysteriously. Along with my ex. They went and talked to the accuser, and he broke down and confessed and showed him where they buried the body that this kid supposedly was in the past life. Wow. Who was murdered by an ex. There's just no way that that happened, but I love reading about stuff like that. The part of me that's like— Yeah, yeah. That's subscribed to that time-life books of like paranormal phenomena.
48:59Chuck Bryant:Yeah. Still loves stories like that. Yeah. I think you lost me when you said village elders. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because, you know. They're the same ones that are like, well, you're a witch too because of that, right? Exactly. See if she floats. Right. So what else you got? Any others? Let me see here. Well, we talked about the devil's mark. Supposedly Anne Boleyn was accused of witchcraftery. Supposedly. I saw also that she most decidedly was not. Oh, really? Yeah, I think that's the legend. All right. Possession by the devil? Yeah. That could be another one. And one thing that we did know was that it definitely did happen historically.
49:43Chuck Bryant:From the 17th to the 19th centuries, if you were Russian nobility, you proved it by displaying your birthmark. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. What was the family, the Romanovs? Yeah. Pretty interesting, which actually holds water because they think that some birthmarks may be congenital. It's entirely possible that a family line, especially one that kind of kept to themselves, you know what I mean? I know what you mean. You could conceivably pass down something like a birthmark. Yeah. And so unless you – do you have anything else? No, I don't, Chuck. Take it away. I think we just should close by really like stressing to any kids listening and parents of children.
50:22Chuck Bryant:That vascular birthmarks have to do with blood vessels under the skin. No, just explain to your kids if there's another kid in their class that has a pretty obvious birthmark that they're just the same. Yeah. And don't tease kids for that stuff. If you're a kid that's young and listening, we all look different. We all have different skin tones. Yeah. Just don't be a jerk. No. I think that's really great advice. No, I think the golden rule, think about how you might feel if somebody was making fun of something about your body. That's a good one, too. Yeah. If you want to know more about parenting, well, you could just listen to all of our other episodes.
51:00Chuck Bryant:And since I said that, it's time for Listener Mail.
51:06This is from Ryan and Lucy, the aforementioned band name ref. They have been to our shows at the Bell House a couple of times, a few times. Okay. And let me see, where are they from here? Road trips between New York and Providence. Okay. And then they've seen us at the Bell House. And they said, we realize how much we get a kick out of the various band names. And we started to inventory them a few years ago. Since our wedding is next week, we realize that now is the perfect time to just go ahead and send you the list. I'm not sure why that has anything to do with anything. But Ryan and Lucy, congratulations.
51:41Chuck Bryant:Yeah. For what it's worth, Ryan's favorite is Worm Burden. Oh, yeah. From the hookworm. Yeah. And Lucy's is Mouth Parts. Yeah. That's from a lot of episodes. It's a great one. But we'll just buzz through these really quickly just for nostalgia's sake. And aspiring bands, jump in and take these. And give us some money for them. There's some real gold in here. Are we doing all those? Yeah. Oh, my God. That's all right. I'll go through them quickly. Fistful of Neurons, Warm Burden, Tub of Pulp. I know you want to comment on every one, don't you? Yes. Just throw in what you think is really good. I'm just going to sit here like this.
52:16Threat Simulation Theory, Poor Fred Noonan. I remember that one. Yeah. Sweet, Give Me the Teat. I don't remember that one. It was from Uncanny Valley, but I don't remember saying that was a band.
52:29Chuck Bryant:No. Or even how it would relate to it. This is from Movie Crush. Sick Vandalism. That's a good one. Flesh on the Chunks. Hot Plastic Injection. Pyrocastic Flow. That's a good one. Flaming Death Bolts. Pintos. That is a legendary one. Conceptual Walls. Framingham Cohort. Offspring Cohort. Omni Cohort. Third Generation Cohort. Offspring Spousal Cohort. I don't remember any of those. All those were from that heart study. Oh, okay. Oh, that's right. Cortical homunculus. That's pretty good. Medieval synthesis. Magic bullet. Eh. I'm going to retract this next one because apparently I said herbal douches was a good band name.
53:11I take that back. Okay. That's terrible. Slaughtered narwhal. Peck lube. Great. Sex linked recessive manhole incidents. That's a good one. Graphic spew. Gross. Nuclear bulge. Love it. That is a good one. Local group. That's kind of dumb.
53:28Chuck Bryant:I don't know. I can see that. It's kind of like Scrantonicity. Oh, sure. Yeah. The Electric Death Commission. I'd love that one. Yeah. Dr. Foss Bomb Drop. What was that one? Michael Dillon. Huh. I don't remember exactly what that referenced. Okay. Death Master File. Mouth Fart. Of course, the classic Frozen Poop Knife. Yeah. Sloth Moths. Radioactive Cats. That one's dumb. Static Crush. I like that one. Damage Night. Not bad. The Descriptivists. Eh. That's a little haughty, I think. Sure. But it could be kind of like Mumford and Sons-y kind of music, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, gotcha. It sounds too much like Decembrists, I think.
54:11Whom I love.
54:12Chuck Bryant:That is exactly right. Bathtub Gin. Yeah. Wasted on Excitement. That's an album title, he says, but that's pretty good as a band. Sure. Mother Culture. Jungle X-Ray. Very recent. Wet Record. The album from Jungle X-Ray. Right, right. Two Whale Bolt from Corduroy and then Going Postal, which he says a lot of bands are called that. Yeah, I think you looked that up even, didn't you? I think so. Those are good. We always, always, anytime we talk about great band names from episodes have to give a shout out, especially when Frozen Poop Knife comes up, to Diarrhea Planet. Well, he had that on the list.
54:47I think he didn't quite understand that that is a real band.
54:50Chuck Bryant:That is a real band that predates Frozen Poop Knife. I know. I'd like to think that they've been tweeted at over the years. Oh, they've tweeted to us. Oh, that's right. They have, right? They said, hey, sorry, we're going to stick with our partner. Oh, that's right. Thanks for thinking of us. In other words, shut up. Maybe. I don't know. I think it depends on how you look at the world. Yeah. Okay, so I think that's it, everybody. I don't remember what's going on anymore, but this is the end of the episode. So if you want to get in touch with us, you can go on to stuffyoushouldknow.com if you want.
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