Short Stuff: The Mad Trapper of Rat River

8 Jan 2025 · 16 min

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Podcast Summary: Stuff You Should Know - Short Stuff: The Mad Trapper of Rat River

Episode Overview In this episode of Stuff You Should Know, hosts Josh and Chuck, along with guest Jerry, delve into the intriguing tale of The Mad Trapper of Rat River, a figure shrouded in mystery from Canada’s history. The discussion revolves around one of Canada’s largest manhunts that took place in 1931, focusing on the identity and actions of the elusive Albert Johnson.

Key Themes and Discussions

Background of The Mad Trapper

  • Introduction to Albert Johnson:
  • Moved to the remote Northwest Territories near Fort McPherson in July 1931.
  • Known for being a loner with very few words; his origins are uncertain, with some speculating a Swedish background.

Initial Conflict

  • Triggering Incident:
  • Local First Nations trappers reported Johnson for interfering with their trap lines.
  • First contact with law enforcement occurred in December 1931, leading to escalating confrontations.

Escalation of Events

  • Confrontations with Law Enforcement:
  • Johnson initially responded aggressively to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), resulting in a series of visits where he either threatened officers or refused to communicate.
  • The situation escalated to the use of dynamite in an attempt to flush him out, which proved ineffective.

The Manhunt

  • Details of the Manhunt:
  • Lasted from December 1931 to mid-February 1932.
  • Johnson managed to evade capture through various means, including stepping in caribou tracks to hide his own.
  • Notable for being the first manhunt involving an aircraft, with legendary pilot Wap May assisting in locating Johnson from the air.

Public Reaction and Cultural Impact

  • Media Coverage:
  • The manhunt captured public intrigue and was one of the first major stories broadcasted via radio, significantly increasing radio sales.
  • Public Sentiment:
  • During the Great Depression, many viewed Johnson as a folk hero, sympathizing with his fight against the establishment.

The Final Confrontation

  • Capture and Death:
  • Johnson was eventually found and killed after a prolonged chase and multiple gunfights with law enforcement.
  • Mystery of Identity:
  • Despite capturing and examining his body, Johnson's true identity remains a mystery, with extensive efforts to identify him through DNA analysis in 2007 yielding inconclusive results.

Key Takeaways

  • Enduring Mystery:
  • The identity of Albert Johnson (The Mad Trapper) remains unresolved, with various theories about his origins but no definitive answers.
  • Cultural and Historical Significance:
  • The story illustrates themes of survival, law enforcement challenges in remote areas, and public sentiment during economic hardship.
  • Human Element:
  • The episode emphasizes the complexities of human behavior, particularly in the context of isolation, survival instincts, and how societal circumstances can shape perceptions of crime and heroism.

Conclusion The episode on The Mad Trapper of Rat River presents a captivating narrative that combines elements of mystery, historical significance, and human psychology. The mystery of Johnson's identity and the extraordinary circumstances surrounding the manhunt continue to intrigue audiences, making it a notable part of Canadian folklore.

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0:39Hi, and welcome to The Short Stuff. I'm Josh. There's Chuck. Jerry's here, too, sitting in for Dave. And the three of us are on the run to the Canadian Arctic, recreating the story of the Mad Trapper. And it's not going very well for us. That's right. The Mad Trapper of Rat River, a.k.a. Perhaps. I don't even know about perhaps. Almost certainly Canada's most infamous unknown person on the lam and the largest manhunt in Canada's history conducted to try and get this guy. Yeah, this is I saw referred to as like an iconic Canadian story. This guy just tore us up in 1931, made international headlines and died.

1:26it's still to this day no one knows who he is and not one of those things where like we're pretty sure it's this guy we just can't prove it they have no idea who this guy is um they're starting to kind of chew around the edges of it but the fact that he is still unidentified just makes it that much more interesting but even if you were identified chuck his story is still just totally fascinating on its own yeah it's not like somerton man because that was the most interesting thing about that was the mystery of who he was. It wouldn't care. It wouldn't matter if this guy was indeed Albert Johnson, who was his alias.

2:05It's a remarkable story that started in July 1931 when this guy, Albert Johnson, came and moved there. They think he may have come from Sweden, according to certain people who talked to him here and there, but he was a man of very few words, as we'll see, when he arrived in the vast remote area of the Northwest Territories near Fort McPherson and built a little eight by 10 foot cabin near the Rat River. Yeah. And we're talking like the northern most parts of Canada, like basically along the Arctic Ocean in the 30s. Yeah. He was essentially living where the guys from the Terror and the Erebus that we talked about were trying to get to when they were like on their march down toward Canada.

2:52Had they done this in 1931, they might have run into Albert Johnson. He was that far up, right? So this is a really, really rugged, wild, dangerous place to live. And like you said, he arrived in July. And a few months after that, I think in November or December of 1931. Okay, December of 1931. A couple of trappers from the First Nations who lived up there got in touch with one of the local police and said, hey, there's this guy, his name's Albert Johnson, and he's messing with our trap lines, and he's not supposed to do that. So can you go tell him to stop doing that? And three days later, a couple of cops just knocked on Johnson's cabin door, assuming that they were just going to talk to him and tell him to stop doing that, and that would be that, right?

3:38Yeah, I mean, these are the Mounties. So these guys are not messing around. The story is a little confusing because everywhere you look, it's a little different. But from what I gathered, there were three total visits. One visit when he basically said, get the heck out of here and pointed a gun at them. A second visit when two guys came back and this time he supposedly refused to talk at all. And when they went to look through his windows, he just covered his windows up and ignored them. He pulled down the blind and went, masher. I guess four total because the third one was when those two guys plus two more, I think it was Alfred King and Joe Bernard and two more guys came back with warrants, forced the door over, and he shot King and a brief firefight ensued.

4:26And then finally, the fourth visit when they brought a bunch of guys with dynamite and camped out for three days outside his cabin. Yeah, they threw dynamite on his roof to flush him out. And it certainly blew up the roof as expected. It also took down some of the walls of the cabin. and amazingly, Albert Johnson survived. And even more amazingly, he still refused to come out and engaged in a gunfight with this posse that the Mounties had assembled to go take this guy out. Because he shot at an officer who just wanted to tell him to stop messing with trap lines, like shot and tried to kill him, right?

5:03So this guy was already a big deal by this time. And he managed to hold off this posse from taking him alive. they actually had to get out of there because they were running low on food and the weather was terrible. This is December in the northernmost reaches of Canada along the Arctic. Not a time you want to be outside. Apparently the temperature was negative 45 and this guy's holding these guys down in a gunfight. And then they leave and four days later they come back and now they find that this destroyed cabin is now empty. He's fled and a blizzard has covered up his tracks. Yeah, I saw that it was like a 60-mile hike just to get to his place.

5:45So the fact that they came back four times, when this guy probably could have opened the door the first time and said, all right, I won't mess with their traps anymore. And that probably would have been the end of it. But yeah, he managed to evade them on this manhunt by stepping in caribou tracks and from these storms that would come through. And maybe that's a good time for a break? Yes. All right, we'll be right back.

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8:35So I don't think we've said yet this this now there's a manhunt underway. This guy who they want to take in for shooting at cops is on the run in the Canadian wilderness. And this manhunt lasted seven weeks from December to mid-February. This guy kept evading them. They'd catch up to him. He'd shoot at them. They'd have a firefight. One time he killed a cop, Constable Millen, who was like a member of this posse that was hunting him down. And he would manage to fend them off every time they caught him in a firefight. And one of the other interesting facts about this, Chuck, is this is the first time an aircraft was ever used in a manhunt, as far as anyone knows.

9:18That's right. They got a pretty legendary WW1 Canadian fighter pilot named Wilfred Wap May to come in. A little side note here, Wap May was in the dogfight that ended the Red Baron's life. So a very sort of famous Canadian fighter pilot flying above for the first time, seeing if he could just spot trails from above. Yeah, I saw a photo that he took from his aircraft of like this, like he was really high up and there's a little tiny speck in the middle of a frozen river and it's identified as Albert Johnson. And then there's like three more tiny specks coming out of the wood line chasing after Johnson.

10:05And Watt May got a picture of it. It's just when you understand what you're looking at, it's astounding what these guys were running through over the course of seven weeks. It's nuts. That's amazing. And so people heard about this thanks to the radio, which was still a pretty new invention. But this story that was kind of playing out over the news in real time actually helped sell a bunch of new radios because people didn't want to miss out. Yeah, supposedly this is one of the really first big news stories to be broken via electronic media. So you've got your first search and rescue, or I guess not search and rescue, search and destroy mission featuring a plane.

10:46You've got the first big news stories breaking on radio for the first time. One of the weird parts of this case, I said he was a man of few words, is as the story goes, this guy didn't say a word. the whole time. Like, there was never like, you know, it's my right to be here. You know, get away. I'm just trying to live. Like, supposedly, this guy said nothing to any of them. That is so unsettling. It is, totally. It's another thing that just kind of adds to his legend, too. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, people by this time, this was during the Depression, and a lot of the public that was following the story were actually rooting for him.

11:29Because remember, this was a time when the public rooted for like bank robbers and other criminals and outlaws because the establishment had basically screwed everything up and taken advantage of everybody. So there were people who were pulling for him. And even if you weren't pulling for him, it was just astounding what this guy was doing with just some, I think he had a rifle and a shotgun. He had his clothes and he was like out maneuvering and surviving against this posse that was on his trail. And I also saw, Chuck, that one of the unsung or overlooked groups that was part of this posse were some of the First Nation members who helped track him.

12:12That this posse probably would have lost his trail in the first few days had it not been for the trackers that came with them. Yeah, I think the Lusho people were the ones who initially filed the complaint. Did you see which tribes helped out in the search? I didn't. I just saw that one of the members' last name was Rat. So I'm guessing he was named after the Rat River. Of the Rat River Rats? His family was. Yeah, exactly. So another part of the kind of a fun fact of this story is, or at least part of the lore, is that at one point they had him pinned in a steep canyon. And he supposedly scaled a near vertical wall of ice, basically, to get out of there.

12:56Yeah. So at this point, they're like, this guy is not human. Yeah. And again, another First Nations member comes through. I think somebody came back and mentioned that they heard a rifle shot in this like totally desolate area. And the Royal Canadian Mountie Posse were like, well, they can only be Albert Johnson. And they headed that way and they found his trail and they started chasing him. They engaged in one last firefight with them. And this one, Albert Johnson didn't come out of a line. That's right. They got him, finally, after this long, long manhunt. A very successful evasion for a long time.

13:35But, yeah, they eventually got him. No one, I mean, part of the, you know, the second part of this is just the mystery. Like, not only who was he literally, but, like, who was this guy to move way out there to not, you know, they supposedly back, you know, closer to town, even though I'm sure that was super small as well. It was like a very friendly place, and he was known as a loner and very unfriendly, which was not the norm. And, like, who was this guy who just moved out to the middle of nowhere and, like, didn't speak a word this entire time? Right, yeah. Why would he do this? Yeah, yeah, which just deepens the mystery further.

14:14By the way, one other thing. It was Charlie Ratt, who was the guy that helped the Mounties find Albert Johnson. What a name. So they had a picture of him. There's a very, well, I guess famous if you're Canadian, picture of his dead body on like a morgue slab. Boy, I wouldn't mess with the guy. No, he looks rough and tough for sure. He does. Like you could not know his story and see that picture of his dead body and be like, I'll bet that guy could survive in the Canadian wilderness for seven weeks with the cops on his trail. Yeah, for sure. I would want nothing to do with this guy. So they took this picture because they wanted to circulate.

14:55Everybody wanted to know who this guy was. And it made it in all the papers in Canada and the United States. And no one came forward. The details of his life and demeanor didn't match anything that anybody knew of. I mean, like people came forward with tips, but none of them were legitimate or panned out. And very quickly, this guy just became this anonymous weirdo who did some crazy stuff in the winter of 1931. Yeah. So like you said, they exhumed his body in 2007 once DNA sampling was a viable thing. And that has enabled some genetic comparisons to possible relatives. They obviously didn't, you know, no one has come forward with it like a perfect match or anything.

15:40But they made comparisons with more than two dozen families, and they have some strong circumstantial evidence that what family he may have been from and where they have landed now is that they're pretty sure that his background is Swedish. and he has been linked to multiple descendants of a gentleman named Gustav Magnussen, who died in 1853, and Britta Svendotter, who passed away in 1846. And they are pretty sure that he's a descendant of them, but nobody from any of those bloodlines has come forward either. No, and this company called Othram, a genome sequencing company, They have figured out a few other things about him that he almost certainly grew up in the Midwestern United States.

16:33His autopsy revealed that he had extensive and expensive dental work. And then he had scoliosis. Yeah, yeah. This guy did this for seven weeks, scaled a near vertical face cliff with scoliosis as well. He was just amazing in a really kind of specific way. I think one foot was bigger than the other one, too. Good Lord. I thought it was a very strange little add-on. Yeah. But also, if he grew up in the Midwest, the stuff he was doing, there's not many places to learn that. I mean, I guess if you're from upper Minnesota or something, but I'm guessing comparing an upper Minnesota winter to an upper Canada winter is night and day.

17:16So they contend he was never a Swedish resident? They don't necessarily contend that. He could have been a transplant from Sweden who was just raised in like a Swedish speaking community. Yeah. So he could have spoke Swedish. Yeah. About like ice wall climbing and stuff. He could probably do that in Sweden. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. Apparently based on his teeth isotopes that he was raised in or grew up in the Midwest. Yes. Yeah. All right. So maybe one day we'll know. Maybe. I mean, we found out the Somerton man's identity, right? Yeah. Yeah, but I don't think we ever mentioned it on the episode, on the podcast, did we?

17:54Yeah, I think we read a listener mail because we got like 10 ,000 Australians writing us. Great, great. Well, if it ever comes out who the mad trapper of Rat River was, everybody, we want to know so we can tell everybody else. For sure. Yeah. And in the meantime, Chuck, I think short stuff is out.

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