The trends that will define summer

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0:16Anika:This is Stylish, the podcast for all things fashion, brand, business and beauty. My name is Madison Sullivan Thorpe. My co-hosts today are Joanna Fleming and guess who's back from New York, New York. We have Annika Joshi-Smith and we cannot wait to hear all about what's coming up for today's show, but also how New York was. And also some major news you've dropped on socials, but not on these podcasts. So I feel like we maybe need to talk about that first. We do. So I have been keeping the biggest secret, but I am 15 weeks pregnant with a mini-me. My little girl. I know, I'm so excited. She's a mommy.

0:58She's a mamacita. It's honestly been so hard to hide because I just started showing really early. So actually hiding it from you guys on the podcast has been like such a challenge.

1:09Anika:I think this is where the fact that you gravitate towards baggy dressing has come in really handy for you. Because we had no idea. And then you rocked up one day and you're like, guess what? And we were like, wait, what? Where has that been? I was away and I got the message and woke up and squealed like a little pig with excitement. I literally was like, oh, shit, Mads is going to find out on text message. And I hated it. But then there was actually just not a time. Well, we tried to FaceTime her, but the time zone did not really allow. Yeah, sorry. I know. But she's already very lucky to have the two coolest aunts.

1:42So, yeah, I know. And we're very excited to have her with us in the studio. So excited.

1:47Anika:I'm going to update our intro so that it's like a little more like, you know, Annika Joshi Smith plus 0.5 human. I know, baby plow. I feel like I need to now actually change my last name because I'll be like outnumbered in my own family. Are you going to do Joshie Smith Plowman? Hell no. Okay. What one are we dropping? I think we will be becoming Annika Plowman officially. Oh, wow. Yeah. Dropping the double barrel. Okay. Maybe I want to hyphenate mine. You don't need to now. Damn. I thought I was going to join the club. Oh, shit. Well, maybe you'll be – actually, you'll be out of the club then.

2:18Anika:There we go. You just always have two hyphens in the room. Okay. Yeah. Three might be too many. Yeah. Well, it does help when Marie fills in too. she is also Double Barrel now. Yes. Oh God, okay, now I'm going to really feel lift out. All right. I'll come back to you on that. Enough about Double Barrel surnames. Jo, what are we talking about today? Okay, so today we're talking about all the criticism and backlash Vogue's newly appointed head of editorial content, Chloe Marle, is facing for her sense of style and the messy and extremely public breakup of Net-a-Porter's founder, Natalie Massinet, and the co-founder of Frame, Eric Tordenson.

2:50So Annika, we're very happy to have you back, obviously in your little seat there so before you jet off again which you're about to do can we get a little bit of an update on New York and your little trend report please I honestly keep forgetting that I'm going overseas like this time next week I won't be here it's a bit crazy you just got back I know I feel like I'm just like aligning and now I'm just going to be all over the show again but anyway New York was just the best like I feel like this time of year September is always just like fashion month in New York. And the city was buzzing. It was just like where we stayed, we stay at a really super cute hotel in Soho.

3:28And there were fashion week events. There were parties. It was just like literally a block party one night. The whole street was like shut down. It is such a vibe. But the trends were all about spring, summer, 2026 collections. And I just always think of the iconic Miranda Priestly, like commentary, plurals for spring groundbreaking. like it always just comes to mind at this time of year but there were definitely florals there was a lot of color bombs and there was even cerulean blue so she is making such a comeback um and I think it's a really nice way to like if you're I'm looking at us mads like in a lot of blue today yeah it's such a nice way to kind of adapt a trend into your wardrobe with that pop of color and it does suit most palettes so I think maybe even you too Jojo yeah I can do blue um but I think as well fashion weeks can often just feel super aspirational and something I really loved about the trends we saw this year was just how practical a lot of the collections were and we're seeing like a lot of flat shoes on the runways as well and people just looking for more easy wearing pieces like shirts beautiful dresses nothing too tricked up and sometimes I guess we can say that you know fashion can be a form of escapism with everything going on in the world right now the tariffs all of the like inflated costs that we're seeing across the board the luxury market decline and cost of living crisis I think brands are trying to be a little bit more practical and play it safe so there was definitely some common themes coming through around wearability and like even just denim being such a mainstay in our wardrobes especially for spring so those foundational pieces some of my favorite trends were definitely I'm so lame but like monochrome dressing it's just the best I'm always in all black outfits acceptable today um but black and white looks were all over the Ralph Lauren Totem Kay and Michael Kors shows and it was really showing I would say like a really strong contrast which would help to define elements in your wardrobe so if you had anything that had really clean detailing it was really easy to see and I think people were just really gravitating towards those really simplistic sharp and sleek kind of outfits and I think it's something really easy for all of us to recreate at home and then for the girly girls every shade of pink there was a lot at area Tory Burch to be a Michael Kors but then even like pairing them back with neutrals, teal, khaki, black, and a lot of animal print for like a bit more of a modern twist.

5:44And then another trend I actually really loved was a strong focus on silhouettes. So we're still seeing like peplums, even like really cool kind of structured outfits, a lot of tailoring, and anything that kind of like nipped in at your waist, there's so much of that coming through. Seeing a lot of cinching. Yeah, I love the cinching. I mean, it's kind of hard for me to do it now, but we can rock an hour. It's out of time for you. And something that I thought was super cute was like more preppy attire. So Mads, you get like gold star.

6:13Anika:I'm back, baby. I'm back. She's on brand. But tartan played, polos, pencil skirts, and those like old school Argyle knits. Do you remember them? They've got like the diamond almost like. Oh yes. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Print, I guess. Across them. They were very evident as well. That's so a bit of me. I know. I see this for you. It's giving Miu Miu like so cute. Yeah. What can I do for Miu Miu for list. I'll find you some options. And texture. So like this is where we had a lot of fun. And I think this is a common theme we're starting to see a lot more now. Instead of it being all about like prints and colors, sometimes texture is a really easy way to incorporate the trend into your wardrobe.

6:52So there were some extra pom-poms. Like I actually mean like cheerleader type pom-poms coming through on the runways. And fringing, tassels, feathers, both for animal prints are still evident but I think it's quite cool how animal prints are now almost evolving into the actual texture so like a lot of those pony hairs and things like that which looked really cool and of course accessories did not disappoint so a lot of pendant necklaces we kind of saw these coming through I think earlier with everyone in their vacation wardrobes but these pendants are actually like super functional so like a comb kind of hanging from your necklace yeah like really functional pendants.

7:28I even saw like glasses, like it was actually a feature to have your glasses attached to your necklace as well.

7:34Anika:My dad grandmother would have been thrilled. And then gigantic belt buckles, like big statement belt buckles. Like I was seeing hot pants with like a belt buckle that almost accentuated the hot pan and it was just like the biggest feature. So a lot of fun, playfulness coming through in our spring summer wardrobes. What of all of that are you going to be adding to your wardrobe? What were you like, okay, I'm absolutely taking that home and getting online. I really love the Kate show. I think they do just modern effortless dressing so well. And I love the fluidity of their garments as well. So I think we can do a lot of fluids.

8:09Like Jojo actually today is wearing a really cool fluid top. That type of satin material, like doing a full head to toe ensemble. I saw some really cool stripes. And I'm not really like a print girl, but stripes I feel like I can get around. It's like scarf dressing for like maxi dresses and like a really cool, simple stripe. But yeah, I think I'm going to be in Paris next week. So I think I might get a head start on the trend. Sorry, guys. Right. But she'll be shopping. And I think adapting those looks to my wardrobe.

8:35Anika:Yeah. Well, shopping for yourself and shopping for another little girl. I know. We've already started. It's going to be illegal, you guys. I really should task you with finding me a second dress for my wedding. I'm already on it. In Paris. Yeah. Yeah. Feels like a good place to go. It does, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah, that could be a little job for you in your downtime. I'm all over it. Heaps of it. Now, you were both away last week. I'm sure that was your punishment for me being away for a few weeks. But we chatted all things the summer I turned pretty. I was spewing that I missed out on that and I used the word spewing because I had food poisoning.

9:10I was really sad to miss out on that and I loved that episode when I listened back to it. But, oh, I wish I got to discuss that.

9:17Anika:There's so much to unpack. I don't know how many times everyone's re-watched the finale. Personally, I've watched it four, but, you know, maybe lucky five by the time this ends. What did we make of the finale premiere, Fitz? I was more looking at the behaviour amongst each of them. I thought Chris Briney's, how do I describe it? Wait, can we talk in their character names? Because I don't know the names. Conrad. Okay, Conrad's vibe was a bit off. I felt he was quite cold at that event. I thought that Lola Tongue was very, like, belly. Belly. Was very friendly and bubbly and, like, kind of, you know, trying to seem like they were all really good friends.

9:59Yeah. And he was kind of giving her nothing.

10:02Anika:I mean, she looked like a bloody bombshell. Oh, that dress. I also could not help but feel like it was the most perhaps sophisticated and grown up we'd seen her on a red carpet. Yeah. But I'm with you. I did really fall into the trap of this on TikTok though when I feel like they were saying it has a lot to do with him just not wanting to allow like shipping and speculation and conversation. Yes, which I understand because he's in a relationship in real life and it's a very complex thing when people confuse you for your character. So that's very fair. Like I'm doing right now. Yeah. We're not helping.

10:38The handbag. Yeah, he had a handbag. I don't know about it on him. I don't think he was wearing it confidently like Jacob Elordi would. Yeah. Or Harry Styles.

10:50Anika:No one wears a handbag better than Jacob Elordi, do they? Yeah, I just, it didn't feel like he was that comfortable with the accessory. And a lot of people were saying on TikTok, like, is he holding Lola's bag for her? Because it just didn't seem like he was comfortable with it as an accessory. Yeah. So it looked awkward. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. And I'd be so just like, Nikki right now, and I hate to be a hater, but I was just underwhelmed by all the looks. I do have to agree. I feel like Bally, I love her glow up. Like I think this is like the Bob, like everything about her now, I'm like that character.

11:22That's who I kind of epitomize her as. And I love seeing the chic journey for her. I know it was just a look in the shot. But like I definitely feel the glow up I've seen from her on red carpets is there. And I'm excited to see where she continues her look. But overall as a cast, I was really underwhelmed, you guys. I was expecting more.

11:40Anika:I would agree with some of the other cast members. I also felt that Chris Briney's look wasn't natural to him. Yes. I don't think he looked his most comfortable self. Which one's he? Conrad. In Belmont. Yeah, ready. Got you. Yes, yes, yes. I also wasn't really vibing with the cape look on Belly's brother. What's his name? Sean. Oh, yeah. He was giving Matrix. Sean is his real name and his character name is Stephen. Character is Stephen. Stephen, that's right. Yeah, he just kind of also looked uncomfortable in the outfit. So I think when you're wearing it confidently, it's a lot. But when you're not used to wearing that stuff and it can feel a little bit out of your comfort zone, that can reflect a lot, especially when you are being videoed the whole time.

12:21Anika:I wonder as well if because the characters are depicted as in their early 20s, seeing them contrasted on a red carpet as the adults they are in adult outfits actually just makes us uncomfortable. Like maybe they're not uncomfortable, maybe we're uncomfortable. A hundred percent, that's all me. Like a hundred percent. I like literally like if we just go back to the sex scene, like I just couldn't even imagine like I felt like I had to close my eyes. Oh, I didn't close my eyes. All right. Time for the swap. So Mads, do you want to go first with your swap? I would love to go first with the swap. I actually want to circle back to the episode we did on spring cleaning because I was talking about donating clothes and thinking about where to donate some of my corporate wear or that sort of smart casual.

13:06Anika:and I had so many of our listeners reach out and recommend organisations. So one, thank you so much, but I wanted to recommend two of the organisations that were recommended to me because I thought, how great is that? So the first is Fitted for Work and the second was Dress for Success. So as we mentioned, I'm not great at doing the spring cleaning, but I am committing to it. And so I'm going to be donating at those two organisations. Both very good organizations. I'm very familiar with them. Yeah. So I think if anyone has any work blazers or pencil skirts or anything they think would be appropriate for the office, I actually had one of our beautiful listeners reach out saying that she had grown up in regional Victoria in a socioeconomic situation that didn't allow her to sort of, you know, build out her wardrobe as she was starting out as a doctor.

13:54Anika:And so she had worked with one of the incredible organizations and it just absolutely filled my cup and my heart. Might've brought a little tear to my eye, but don't tell anyone I have feelings. So, yeah, that's my swap today. I love that. Great opportunity if you go from working in a corporate environment as well to like a more casual environment and you're just never going to wear those clothes again. Yeah. And like you never intend to go back to that. Great way to repurpose those clothes. Totally. I think that's a really cup-feeling way to donate clothes. Yeah, for sure. Jo, what are you swapping in?

14:22So my swap is actually a creator today. So I started following a girl called Gemma Adby recently, Gemma with a G. she describes herself in her bio as a one-armed girl in a two-armed world so she is a disabled creator on socials she just does the most amazing hair tutorials in particular so she does these hair tutorials on her short hair she's got a bob I'm thinking about cutting my hair post-wedding wait what yeah and I'm looking at her for inspo because I'm like okay if I can style my hair as much as she does because I think I just get really bored of having short hair so I'm looking to her for inspo and I'm like, okay, if I can style my hair as well as she does and be as versatile as she can be, then I can manage it.

15:07And I think I could pull it off.

15:08Anika:If you cut your hair, I want that to be a team excursion. Yeah, I feel like it's like a belly moment. Oh my God. Oh yeah. Yes. It is very belly in Paris. I'll sing Taylor Swift in the background. Except I hopefully won't have just recently gone through a breakup. No. Especially married. Yeah. Even better. But do feel free to follow Gemma. She just does great content. She also does fashion content as well. I believe she's based in the UK. So it's obviously not super local to us as, you know, the three of us. But very helpful content. Really great hair tutorials, especially if you've got shorter hair.

15:45So highly recommend her. I'm such a basic bee when it comes to my hair. Like all I know how to do is like a pony straight in, like nothing else. I'm definitely going to follow her. Yeah. She does like the greatest little hacks of styling her hair. It's just, yeah, I never would think to do my head away. But yeah, definitely recommend. Okay, thanks for that one. Okay, well, I was obviously just in the US, like I've crapped on about. But I got behind the hype and I went to Sephora and it was like a club in there. Like there was so much going down. There was a line like literally like 20 minutes long for Rode.

16:18Wow. But she managed to cop a few products. I couldn't get you guys anything. I'm so sorry because it was literally, I got the last ones. But I got the travel kit that kind of comes with like a little bit of everything. So I have tested a few products. And one that I want to absolutely get behind and back is the glazing milk. It's like$32. Yeah. Yeah,$32. I love that you're looking at me.

16:42Anika:It's probably like$50 AUD. Yeah. Like you would know. Mad's obviously not. She's a believer. But honestly, it gives you like actual glass skin. like I'm not bullshitting at all my skin when I put it on like glows and it radiates and it is super hydrating and even if you mix it with like makeup like I've been blending it with my like house labs foundation and it gives such a beautiful finish so I don't know what Miss Bieber has done to this product what's in it but whatever it is it's genius enough to sell a business for a billion dollars so it's clearly doing something right and apparently the glazing mist is also like elite.

17:20So that's my next on my list.

17:22Anika:Greedy Pig has both of these products and I have to say I love the mist but the glazing milk will always have my heart. Okay. You're right. It's great and she talks a lot about this mixing it with tinted moisturizer or foundation. Guys if you're listening no Rode is not yet available in Australia but you can get it shipped to a US postal forwarding service if you are desperate or just find a mate who's traveling to the States and maybe ask them tend to Sephora. Or can I give you an alternative? Yes. TBH Skin Milk Cicca Toner. Oh, here we go, Jojo. You're welcome. I think they recently just changed their name to the breakout hack.

17:55They did. It was TBH. Yeah. So there you go. Something that our Aussies can get quite easily. I think it's at Coles Priceline, I think. Okay. More affordable? Yeah, Coles Priceline online. $30, I believe. Okay, great. Roughly off the top of my head. Yeah, it might be cheaper than that. It might be$25. Love that. Yeah, testing my memory.

18:15Anika:All we know is it's cheaper than a road. Yeah. Yep. And we don't have to get a US post on, so. All right, but next we're discussing why New Vogue editor Chloe Miles' outfits have the internet divided, but that will be right after a word from today's sponsor.

18:35Okay, so New Vogue editor Chloe Miles' outfits are really dividing the internet at the moment. Chloe Miles was appointed American Vogue's new head of editorial content earlier this month, stepping into a role once held by the iconic Anna Wintour. There was a lot of speculation around who would land this role and there were big shoes to fill. Anna was American Vogue's editor-in-chief for 37 years and became synonymous with the high fashion scene. That was one of our first traced episodes, wasn't it? Was that our first episode ever? I think it was. Anna Wintour only in us. It was our first episode.

19:05Anika:Yes, and we dropped it the week of the Met. Yes, exactly. What a fitting time for us to have launched. Well done, shameless media. So while Khloe has only held this new role for a few weeks, she's already facing criticism online, not for her work, but for her outfits. So she was photographed leaving the Kate show at New York Fashion Week wearing a plain black singlet, a crocheted skirt with like orange detailing on the bottom and strappy flat sandals. And commenters online were very quick to critique her look. Here's an excerpt from a news.com.au article talking about the negative comments her outfit provoked.

19:40within hours her outfit was everywhere with commenters asking does she know she works in fashion and isn't an interest in fashion kind of crucial for the job others took aim at what they saw as a lack of polish compared with Anna Wintour's never wavering armor of sunglasses and Chanel tweed some commenters came to her defense though calling her understated look refreshing and radical with some noting that many of fashion's biggest names think Alexander McQueen and Grace Coddington favoured a more laid-back, minimal approach to fashion like Chloe herself. Did you guys see this on socials?