Andi Lew: Why Your Body Never Makes a Wrong Choice & How to Reclaim It's Divine Organic State

0:03Darin Olien:Welcome to Super Life with me, Darin Olien. A podcast where we explore, discover, and share solutions that promote a healthier life and a better world. Together, we'll ignite possibilities, inspire change, and build sovereignty, creating a roadmap towards a super life for you and for all. Get ready to start living your super life.

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2:07Darin Olien:You're helping you by putting clean products in your mouth and you're helping the environment because Bite Toothpaste is one of the best companies I've seen looking at all aspects of their supply chain and their refillable, reusable, sustainable, regenerative practices. So Bite is offering you, all my listeners, 20 % off your first order. Go to trybite.com, T-R-Y-B-I-T-E forward slash Darren20 or just use the promo code Darren20, D-A-R-I-N, and you can get 20 % off your first order with a great new toothpaste without using the tube. Welcome back to Super Live Podcast. Today, we have an incredibly special and deeply insightful conversation with the Australian author, presenter, and wellness expert, Andy Liu.

2:59Darin Olien:Andy is a certified food lifestyle and wellness coach who has dedicated three decades to practicing and teaching holistic health. She is a prolific storyteller, having written an astonishing 11 books, including her 2020 release, Connected, which explores the power of perception and the body's innate wisdom to heal. In this episode, we explore the profound intelligence of the human body and why our symptoms are actually signs of the body working to heal itself. Andy shares her deep knowledge of chiropractic philosophy, explaining how the nervous system acts as the master controller of our health and how removing interference allows our universal life force to flow.

3:51Darin Olien:We also dive into the vital importance of natural birth, attachment parenting, and how modern societal norms and interventions have sometimes disrupted our natural neurological wiring and physical connection. We also tackle a heavy but crucial topic, the hidden dangers of the cosmetic industry. Andy opens up about her deeply personal journey detailed in her 10th book, Treasured Chest. Andy opens up about her deeply personal journey detailed in her 10th book, Treasured Chest, exposing the realities of breast implant illness and the medical gaslighting many women face. She shares her powerful story of turning pain into purpose, overcoming a systemic physical shutdown, and ultimately reclaiming her divine organic state through explant surgery.

4:49Darin Olien:This is a conversation about trusting nature, embracing our innate power, and having the courage to live a fully connected life. Get ready to learn and absorb the incredible energy and wisdom of Andy Liu. Welcome to Super Life Podcast. The great thing, that's the thing I like. I don't, like, this is a natural conversation. As soon as we saw each other, we're just talking about a million things, which is, I think, the funnest. Look, it's because I feel like I know you. I mean, I know your work. I'm a fan of down to earth. And then I interviewed you on the red carpet. And I was like, I know this guy.

5:30Wow, this will be fun. We have to have a conversation about all the wellness things. I mean, you can hear I've got an Australian accent. So I came all the way from America, from Australia to America for this. Where am I? That's right.

5:43Darin Olien:Yeah, let's go. Well, I mean, listen, it's the fact that you're so dedicated and you've written, you're now on your 11th book. Currently writing my 11th book. Like, I'm still, I'm still affected by my last one. Like, you know what I mean? it's like oh god it's like birthing and you think i'll never do this again labor of love then you look at it and you go oh this is so great maybe i will soon and then you're like why did i do this so cranking out 11 is what i i guess like generally speaking where does the passion come from it's about storytelling storytelling is really healing you only have to look at the first nations people and go well what did we do and you know the aboriginals the indigenous would sit around and have what's called dream time and you know whether it's in the medium of making docu-series or writing books or as an actor or a presenter which is what i am you're just the art of storytelling is so powerful and it's in the hearing that healing happens and so when you feel heard or you can relate to someone or you take someone on a journey and then of course there's education so we're here to serve aren't we and I just think I've got all this knowledge it would just be rude of me to keep it to myself no well I mean that that that's a it's an important distinction because so many people hold themselves back right because we all have a wisdom I think as we emerge but it's a different thing to to go like hey there's something I want to share and I need to share and I'm compelled to share and then actually sharing.

7:30Darin Olien:There's very few people that you can say has written 11 books. I think, though, at the end of the day, it was never easy. But you've got to push yourself and be in that, what I call, divine discomfort zone for magic to occur. And I do realize that this is a bit of a calling. A lot of my readers read my books and go, oh, you're actually a really good writer. And I'm like, why are you so surprised? I know I look different to what people think. I mean, I'm known for becoming ageless and, you know, I look great for 72. April Fool's. Look, I am 53 this year. People do think I'm 15 years younger. And it's, you know, it's just one of those things that after teaching and practising what I teach for three decades now, I'm kind of in my element because I'm like, hey, I told you so.

8:21just keep listening and doing what I've been preaching and it works it eventually pays off what was the first book um it was all about how to live a better quality of life naturally and then I actually pushed that off the shelf and repackaged it in 2020 when we started viewing things with 2020 vision and now that book's called connected a paradigm shift in how we view health and it is about aging well and it's about understanding how the body works to heal when you give it the right environment so you know one of my favorite topics and in there is like all the body's innate wisdom healing powers like if you think about all the things that we've shunned and said that's not good that's not okay like when you vomit it's a bad thing or getting a fever it's a bad thing but when we understand how the body is working to heal from that innate intelligence level we go hang on a second the body's raising its temperature because it needs to hit a certain boiling point to be able to kill off the virus or we actually are expelling toxins healing happens through expulsion through an orifice so that orifice can be the nose or the mouth through sneezing or coughing or it can be through the eyes with conjunctive itis Another orifice might be the ears with an ear infection.

9:42We also have down that end, you know, and we're purging and we're healing through expulsion. But when even it might be a rash, for example, and the pores are, you know, an orifice as well. But then we put the cortisone cream back on and we push the rash back in instead of understanding what's actually going on. These symptoms are signs. And if we listen to the symptoms, they can actually help us to heal instead of thinking that they're the big bad wolf.

10:08Darin Olien:yeah it's it's such a huge huge thing that we flipped the whole thing and i i most recently in the last month talked to this norwegian researcher really badass guy and he's developed some mechanisms to gather about 200 000 to a million data points when he looks at your body through a lot of different mechanisms it's incredible and he said he's worked on 700 000 in people yeah that's a lot you know what he says studies yeah yeah it's a lot of data and you know what he said what to your point i've never seen the body make a wrong choice wow never so when there's inflammation yeah he's in a unique position to have something way beyond just a blood test or an exam.

11:01Darin Olien:He's looking at a lot more data to the point, seeing the miraculousness of the body to the point, it's always doing it for a reason. Our little minds sometimes just go, well, this is the thing hurting me, so therefore it's bad, it's wrong, suppress it. Which is... If we take that analogy and apply it, That's why I said, wow, apply it to everything we know. Everything that's happening is always meant to happen. How do we know? Because it happened, right? It happened. So when we make peace with that and we surrender to it, it just is mind-blowing. But it reminds me of a story of when I was working in a chiropractic practice that I owned.

11:44Somebody came in, he had a bad shoulder. By the way, I'm a qualified chiropractor's assistant. So I ran this practice like for 11 years, but this man had a really bad shoulder pain and we used objective measures of health, like an EMG scan, you know, not just going off symptoms. And when this man, I think it was after 12 visits, we did a re-examination and he was kind of sitting there in his exam and he was like, my shoulder's still sore and I'm really mad. Like it's not better and I'm paying this money and I expect it to be better and everything. And we're like, well, you know, the EMG scan is showing that there's less nervous system interference and, you know, you should be feeling something different.

12:22Is there anything you're feeling? No, no, no, nothing's different. What a waste of money. And he was really mad. And then his teenage son used to come in but never said a word. So he would come in after school with him. And then the chiropractor at the time looked at the teenage son sitting in the corner behind him at the back and he said, since your dad's been coming in, have you noticed any changes in your dad? And the son said, yes, since my dad's been getting adjusted, he hasn't hit me and mum anymore. I know. And I've got goosebumps. I'm trying not to cry. but the body has a triage it has an order of what it finds it needs to heal first right so the body triaged and went you know what the emotional stuff is what i need to i got goosebumps i'm like flaring up we saw so many miracles you know in practice so i've had a wellness center for 11 years i'm a certified food lifestyle and wellness coach and what i've found as well when healing happens it's when we are buzzing in the excitement of what we're born to do we're not supposed to be doing things that we don't love and so I can help you you know with nutrition I can help you with all that but it's such a holistic approach because when you go towards what excites you is when your cells sing and that's when the magic happens as well because you just can't heal when

13:44Darin Olien:you're in a stifled state yeah yeah and you're in a sense of beingness and and a different state of effect when you're in that zone of purpose and and supporting your own love and dreams and that's a completely different thing and having the courage to do that is important because you have to deprogram everything that you've been taught to be able to do that and guess where the word courage comes from the front because i'm a lover of language the french word liqueur which means the heart so when you have courage to do something you're operating from the heart now when you're operating from the heart you can't go wrong and then it has a snowball effect of all of the other health decisions that you're making yeah i mean you know your origin how did you discover your passion in this thing like how where did that come from so that's a poignant question very clever of you to ask that and i think we're chosen if you can listen to that everybody has a time that they remember where they felt called or just this was their thing and i remember when i was like five i was really angry at my dad pushing cough medicine down my mouth, it was pink and it tasted sweet.

15:04But every time I took it, I remember hallucinating and it was just an awful experience being out of my body. I was just vehemently opposed to drugs and cigarettes and things. And I remember when I found the philosophy of chiropractic, which is about above, down, inside, out, the universal intelligence that's actually running us, something greater than us is then running our innate intelligence. And it's through that connection to source that we can express health right and I was like when I discovered chiropractic in my late 20s I was like this just makes so much sense to me because it's not about putting anything in your body and it's not about taking anything out but it's allowing the body to work the way it's designed to and that philosophy just made sense with who I already was as a little girl about being vehemently opposed to drugs because that changes you and there's a natural alternative to everything, but why do we call it an alternative?

15:59Really, it needs to be complementary because we're in this beautiful world now, this modern, crazy world, and we need to heal the divide and start combining both because where would we be without the best life-saving drugs, surgeries, ambulances, hospitals, but only in cases of emergency? But what are we doing to be proactive instead of reactive and I like to dive deep into that because that actually comes from how we come into this world which says a lot about who we are you know and we can if we may go into birthing and attachment and all of that but this is what I've been questioning for decades especially now that I'm a mother and I was privy to have a natural birth and I see that you're adjusting your posture too and I love that because the more you do that you're breathing deeper you're getting connected to source again.

16:49But when we're actually in this state, we close off our heart, it's in fight or flight, there's actually less blood in the brain and it's all in our extremities ready to pounce. And so that's a good thing because it's the body's innate wisdom to go, you know, I don't feel safe here. So again, now how we come into this world, we've come into this world very detached with our modern birthing techniques. if you think about right from the get-go we can go back to conception but you know how many vaginal births are happening how many babies and humans are passing through the vaginal canal having the opportunity to swallow a whole bunch of prebiotics to set up that gut health right from there and then having the opportunity also tense all of their muscles and then squeeze with the mother So we think that that entry point is, you know, a contraction, but it's actually from here like a coffee plunger and it contracts down and both mother and baby are working together as a team to push the baby down and through the vaginal canal.

17:57So now that human knows how to deal with stress and release stress straight away. But if you're having an elective caesarean, and I use the word elective because everyone's birth is so unique and we try our best and that's also okay. But oftentimes we don't get to have the opportunity to experience a natural birth because it's on the clock or it becomes litigious or let's plant some fear rather or let's watch something on Hollywood where the mother's screaming and that's the only thing we've been programmed to see. or what King Henry VIII did was he was a sick man. He used to watch his wives being birthed with the stirrups.

18:37He invented birthing with women flat on their backs in stirrups and he would sit in his throne and watch them birth. And it's like, right, because we're supposed to be in a squat position and use gravity or, you know. So here we are having this detached birth that isn't ours and then the baby comes out in whatever way and then we cut the cord.

19:01Darin Olien:Straight away too. Not cutting the cord is called a lotus birth. Allowing the cord and the placenta which is birthed, this is a lotus birthing technique, the mother and baby decide when they want to be detached. Now that's very unique too, that relationship that you can't interfere with because we're all human having our own beautiful, soulful experience and we've chosen this mum and the mum's chosen the baby and we decide. So what happens is you've got this cord pulse, you've got this nutrition, the placenta gets wrapped up with this muslin cloth. You're supposed to carry it with you and allow that nutrition to keep passing through and the detachment happens in their own unique time and eventually it falls away.

19:48Then you can pay it forward to the earth. You'll love this with down to earth. Plant that placenta under a tree and let new life grow. And so this is the cycle of life and the attachment. And then I think this is why we have then become in 2020 and bringing it back to this. This is my personal belief system. But I feel like I'm observing a culture of people going, I can't do anything on my own. I feel disempowered. You know, govern me harder, daddy. Tell me what to do next. and it really starts with what have we done what you know how have we come into this world you've got this but you've forgotten that you've got this and the attachment to the mum is huge you know then we've been bringing in bottle feeding techniques cry it out sleep techniques the neurological wiring of the human brain is bleeped up you know the human brain is actually in three parts, mammalian, reptilian and rational parts of the brain.

20:53It doesn't fully integrate and become one brain until about the age of five to seven. So that's why there's this saying, show me the boy until he is seven and I will show you the man. So the neurology, the wiring is happening during this crucial time. And if you're saying from 6pm to 6am, that door is shut on the baby, you can cry, I'm not coming to see you. This is my time. That baby starts to feign death. F-E-I-G-N. Just like in the animal kingdom. It's like, well, if I keep crying, not only is this too stressful for me, I've got excess cortisol and adrenaline being released, but it's also dangerous because a big animal could come and eat me up.

21:35So I'm just going to stay silent and feign death because it's safer. So now all these parents have been thinking that they've trained their baby, but in actual fact the neurology screwed up and there is such thing as emotionally unavailable babies which then become depressed and detached and anxious adults so and I went on 60 minutes about this entire subject it's they call it attachment parenting but I just want to call it parenting and so yes we have evolved as species we live in big safe houses but the way in which the human brain develops has not changed. And so that human brain really does think that a big lion is going to come and eat them.

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25:24Darin Olien:Even when I was born in 1970 and I was premature and I was shoved into a box for three weeks, right? You know what I mean? And like I've done a lot of work on reclaiming that, understanding that and and exponentially or excuse me experientially going into that and by the way it doesn't matter what our journey is it doesn't matter if we came into this that's our story because who you are is good and that was meant to happen too but if we can avoid things is what you're saying yeah yeah yeah and it you know again that zero to seven zero to eight period for all of us is is a very pivotal time of how we're we're showing up in the world and then you add on top of it every decision almost 95 plus percent of it is unconscious kind of mostly geared by this period of time yeah and so if you don't do that work to to create that revelatory opportunity of this unconsciousness to see to then maybe reorient yourself back to these basic understandings of your own life yeah then you you just become a victim of these situations that you didn't have any choice at the time but the the programming is in there which started from women's revolution you know we wanted to have jobs we wanted to have equality bottle feeding was introduced so think about like how we have evolved but now how we have to go back you know when you pick up a baby when it's crying or just when you pick it up you naturally start moving and swaying with it you can't help yourself that's because that rhythm or that motion helps to develop the vestibular system you know I saw a woman in a shopping center she had the baby on her hip she was holding the trolley or the shopping trolley but you know the baby's crib in there as well and she was pushing that shopping trolley backwards and forwards while she was staring at the shelves but she had the baby oh my god so can you see how innate this is we're designed to do that but then resisting to pick up that baby when it's crying and going you're a naughty child you're a naughty baby i you know you're manipulating me think about that who's taught us that because when you do pick up a baby you're synchronizing it's mutual synchronicity of heartbeats breathing and body temperature it's mutual and then think about breastfeeding for example now i want to talk about this because then i did end up writing a book called treasure to chest which is exposing the explant industry very important but when a human fetus is being developed in the womb those breasts or the cells are actually immune cells that's how they start off and so if you look at other countries like in Africa, they're wearing grass skirts and they're exposing their chest.

28:24It's all about in context. Like how did we get here where we're not understanding that breastfeeding is normal, that our chests are precious. And where did we flip it and go, well, I don't want to see you breastfeeding. Put a blanket over the baby's head. No, if you've got a problem with my breastfeeding, put a blanket over your head. High five.

28:47Darin Olien:Here's a blanket. Carry extra blankets. That's awesome. Extra masks, extra blankets, whatever you need to make yourself feel comfortable. Yeah. Yeah, it's like one of the most natural things in the world and then somehow people find it offensive. So going back to nature, because you'll appreciate this as a co-host and producer, co-producer of, you know, down-to-earth producer of it, it's like we stopped everything that's natural, yeah, and you just interviewed somebody about the sun and that's natural. You know, let's look at all the things that are natural and meant to be and how that was taken away.

29:24So we were stripped of our natural immunity through being told, hey, you don't need to breastfeed. And, you know, those women who can't, obviously that's a delicate subject and I honour you. Again, everyone's journey is so unique. But a lot of women are being taught how to breastfeed by not lactation consultants, but like midwives and only for the first three days in a hospital environment. not working with lactation consultants that help you understand it's a spiritual connection as well um and so yeah and then you know straight from birth like cut that cord no breastfeeding put you in a crib we're not synchronizing heartbeats and all of the things that are so immune boosting then of course we need extra nutrition we have problems with the way our occlusion sits and our palate as a result.

30:15That's what the breastfeeding does as well. And there's lots of research now. You don't only have to look at the work of Oscar Patel, where he talks about that jaw alignment. And then I'm a fan of obviously chiropractic care and how that's connected to the spine. But being in alignment actually helps us to age well. You know, the first thing that happens when we can see aging, when you look shorter, when your jaw is recessed, when your neck is in a forward incline all of those things show signs of aging and that i've got to be honest with you having chiropractic care on a weekly basis for almost 30 years is one of the reasons why i'm not aging the way other people do because i'm not freezing my face you can see it's moving right you want that you want you don't want muscle paralysis right you want things toxins exactly but you want things to move you only have to look at christopher reeve who became lax when he lost movement and movement runs the brain and that's connected to the earth as well like when the wind is moving the trees and then the trees fall these seeds into the ground and then that creates new life if we look at a pond and that water's stagnant then the fish in it die you know so again look at how connected we are to the earth we're actually the same we're 70 to 80 percent water right plants are 70 to 80 percent water do you know what else is 70 to 80 percent water yes there's a magic to the math for sure

31:49Darin Olien:yeah i mean that's the you know there's so much to how we got here and how we kind of how they or whatever you want kind of created this disconnection and the opportunity is exactly what you're talking about with connected with all of the things that you're doing is like let's re-empower ourselves with the right knowledge so that we can now take that on and and you know when did we stop asking questions and and when did we stop just accepting all of this stuff especially i can't imagine when you're carrying a child, I mean, the innate power of wanting to protect that child is beyond anything, right?

32:38Darin Olien:And so I'm sure that when you were pregnant, that also turned on this huge desire to, like, well, you were already there, but I'm sure, like, wanting a healthier world and supporting the birth process and everything else. What changed in you after you had your child? Everything. You thought you were busy. You have a kid and you know what busy is. But actually, it's a surrender. And I was lucky enough to be in contact with the best lactation consultants in the world. I never even heard that term before. Really? Yeah, lactation consultants. Can you believe there's even a job for that? Because if we were all sitting under a tree in Africa, let's say, and breastfeeding with our sisters, our aunties, our mothers and everything, it would all just be normal.

33:37But again, we've got the blankets over our heads and we're like hiding at homes and we've got a breastfeeding chair. But we should be like lying down in a sleep position with the baby under our arm, just like in the animal kingdom. And even that position, feeding in a lying down position, when both mum and baby fall asleep in that position after a feed, you release a CCK hormone, cholecystokinin, which puts both mum and baby into a much deeper sleep. So all these like new mums in the modern world are going, oh, I'm so sleep-trived, how can I do, give me coffee. It's just like if we only knew that information too, that could help us.

34:12So now I'm like, what was the question? I'm like, how did it change me? A surrender. I remember speaking to somebody from the Australian Breastfeeding Association every time I went to put Bodie down he went and I'm like I couldn't put him down I called him the Velcro baby and a lot of mums feel this and I got on the 1-800 mum to mum hotline and I was like what am I going to do and she said to me do you have to work today and I went not today she said how old is your child and I said, nine weeks old. And she said, keep holding him. He'll never be nine weeks old ever again. And that was a lesson for life to keep you in the moment.

34:56That child is actually saving you. Every time that child wants to be close to you, you're regulating hormones. You're synchronising breath, heartbeats, right? It knows. The child knows what you need too. You know, we've got to stop slowing. We've got to slow down and stop this, you know. And so when he was nine months old and perhaps he was getting molars or whatever, he'll never be this age again. And you think to yourself, why on earth did you have a baby if you can't enjoy it? But then everyone's like, well, we do live in a modern world, Andy, this is crazy. So, yes, we can wear our baby. And if you actually surrender to that child coming to you while you're working or bring it with you or normalise bringing your child to work, normalise breastfeeding, normalise all these things, co-sleeping safely.

35:50Obviously, if you're not on drugs and alcohol and medication, of course it's safe because you'll hear that baby cry. You touch it. You're in tune. It's only if you're off your head that you're not in tune to anything. And so that's why purification within yourself needs to happen so that you can be the healthiest you can be so that you can really live a beautiful connected life because that's what we're supposed to experience, not be like wasted and out of it. Because if you think about what the word wasted means, it means you're wasting life. And so, yeah, just really surrendering to all of those things because then the baby, they call it attachment parenting for a reason, it actually doesn't need you as much.

36:31It has what's called an emotional refuel. Think about when you're in a relationship with a partner. If you're like going, oh, it was too much, they want you more. And they're like, oh, I just need them to write back to me or whatever. But if you're like free and like easy and everything, that desire, that space for the desire happens. So, again, fire, fuel, space. Again, just looking at this and how you do anything is how you do everything. So looking at this from a very balanced way is healthy.