Leon Aryah Lewis: Why You Can't Run From Your Shadow Self—Unlocking the Hidden Power of Your Soul

31:48It's yours If I get it from my guides or your guides I trust that the information is accurate because I've done so many of these readings now

31:57Darin Olien:So trust builds up when you say yes, right? And it's trusted the other person as well, right? Because when I people come to a reading I Tell them upfront. Here's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna give you information and you can reject it if you want. I don't care. It's not my information it's yours. Yeah, do with it what do you want? Accept it or reject it or we'll talk about it. Yeah. I did this reading for this one woman she was a waitress six feet tall a beautiful black woman African American and she was raising six kids by herself. Wow. And she came in for the reading and I said I don't mean to be offensive but I'd like you to massage my back.

32:43Darin Olien:That was the reading. Yeah. And so she did. And I said, now I want you to go to a spot on my back that you feel is very tight. And she did. And I said, that's who you are as a person. You're a healer. You have this technique and ability to tune into someone's physical form and help them heal. I said, I want you to trust that information. and I want you to start offering people massages, which she did. She became a world-recognized masseuse, traveled all over Europe, opened a studio in Santa Monica, because she trusted the information. And I trusted the information I was giving to her. So things like that, I mean...

33:35Darin Olien:They seem so random, but like you said, if someone's coming then they're saying yes on some level so they're open right again they can reject whatever the hell they want and then and then just to trust that information and then i mean that's incredible you know it's actually a beautiful experience because once you know that i know and I'm not judging you all the blockades all the interference all the way and you have two souls talking to each other right and that's a really beautiful experience and that's you know I wanted to share with you know your audience out there is we all have the ability and I wanted to get into a little bit about mysticism of course yeah because mysticism is something people are afraid of because they don't understand it.

34:38And clergymen, rabbis, priests won't talk about it because they're afraid of it. Because once you start to understand mysticism, you begin to understand you can connect yourself with the divine.

34:53Darin Olien:There's no middle man. No middle man. No middle woman. How would you then describe, in your words, how do you describe mysticism? Well, first of all, you know, all of our great spiritual leaders, Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Jesus, they all heard these messages. All the prophets, Ezekiel, Isaiah, they heard information, they trusted it, and they wrote about it. And because they were able to tune in to that divine message. and we all can do that interestingly enough you know Pythagoras this great Greek mathematician was an adept mystic wow he went to Egypt to study Egyptian mysticism brought it back to Greece Socrates Plato all mystics Plato wrote in his book the spiritual world is a real world the physical world is a copy and that's the way I feel about this so try to connect the spiritual world and the physical world has been my destiny that's really where I want to go to and so each of us can tune in if we're open to spiritual information that our guides may have for us it's trusting so if you meditate or you pray and you sit there and if you just listen without any judgment and see if you hear anything and it takes time you know yeah i mean you you you had a gift that was undeniably showing up at periods of time and then obviously this event that happened in the train station kind of made it like and i do believe it too it's a muscle as well right and and we all i don't know if anyone on the planet who hasn't received something and then something occurred, right?

36:59Exactly. You know, you meet somebody again. Oh, I know you. You know, I met my ex-wife after a couple of dates. I said, we're going to get married and have two children.

37:09Darin Olien:Really? She said, I don't want to get married. I don't want to have your children. Well, a couple of years later, we got married and have two kids. So I get those senses about, and we all do, you know. You and I have connected a long time ago. I knew who you were. I knew you were a beautiful soul and I wanted to be your friend and so we had deja vu experiences they're just replaying information over to have so what Socrates and Plato said was we already have all the information in our soul we're just reconnecting to it we're just understanding it again and that's what I believe that's why we can tune into each soul and see who they are.

37:56You know, it is the message of all messages.

38:04Darin Olien:And if we truly take in what you just said, like for the audience right now, just take in this for a second. I'm going to illuminate it even more. If we literally sit and realize that our soul has everything, we need yeah that's exactly that's exactly the point you know people who are seekers are looking outside themselves if you look in your soul has all the information you need what do you do with um what do you do with like because this is true and um um let's get this up um this is true of course it's inside and the world is a mirror like it's it's like you said it's that it's that uh i forget the term you use but it's a reflection of of the spirit side and it's and it's broadcasting something and and there's lessons there's opportunities of growth there's all kinds of things so life definitely shows up mirroring things from my experience and reflecting back through people through experiences through and i think you know for me there is not one thing that's wrong or bad it's just the interpretation of it right and if nothing is broken and everything is happening for us, again my belief, then it's us understanding and extracting that lesson, that learning, that reflection.

39:50Darin Olien:So that's what I believe. So when you think of this soul journey and then meandering in life, the wide experiences that you've had in your life, how do you, through that mystic lens, how do you pop because you've had a successful life, like a physical life, and you've had a rich, rich spiritual life? And I think that's the crescendo. That's what we want to seek. And within all of that, we have, and you speak about this, gratitude and what gratitude really is um so as this kind of toggle between this dance of our spiritual soulful immense connection to everything and we're just this physical thing bumping around getting hurt every once in a while having a having a laugh and like you know like this is a massive question but like how do you feel like that that um dance plays out like between trust the soul and then something's happening where it's like oh that's challenging like i guess that's kind of what i'm trying to get at is how do you play between that inner deep world that you have and also this life that we get to live?

41:36Well, first, I think it's important that everybody understands they have a soul. And the soul is really the sum total of all your experiences. It's who you are. Truly who you are. Truly who you are.

41:49Darin Olien:Not the identity of Darren. It's not the ego. It's not your physical body. It's not your mind. Your soul is some substance of who you are. And you come in that way. I've had past life experiences where I lived that past life and it was very clear to me that that's like the pilot when he met you know so once you recognize you have a soul and if you believe that the soul has the information then you have to get out of your own way and you have to let that play out and for me it's all about process your life is process it's dealing with the physical world the shadow learning who you are learning from the experiences that you have there are no shortcuts to enlightenment there are no shortcuts people read these books these self-help books to me it's anathema to growth you have to go through your journey I'll tell you my favorite book other than the Bible is Siddhartha which I recommend to everyone and in Siddhartha it's really the story of the Buddha so Siddhartha meets the Buddha listens to his teachings and then he walks up to the Buddha and he said your teachings are the most amazing thing I've ever heard but I can't stay with you because I have to live out my own journey by myself you can't teach it to me And so he goes off and he experiences his journey.

43:31And that's life. And that's the spiritual journey. Uncovering what your soul has planned for you. And we all get bruised. We all get beaten up. We get up and we keep on moving if we trust. And we have to trust in ourselves, trust in the message, and trust in the process.

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44:43Darin Olien:We're talking decentralized healing, reclaiming sovereignty, ancient wisdom meets future tech, any tribe of people with you walking the path. If you love this podcast, the Patreon is where we go deeper, get more real, and reclaim our power together. Join us at patreon.com forward slash Darren Olean. That's patreon, P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com forward slash Darren Olean, D-A-R-I-N-O-L-I-E-N. Join the movement, support the mission. Let's rise together. What do you think the... because it's so trippy like it's trippy that this is like like a 30 year year treasure that's sitting here like when you read it again and then decided it's time for this to come out what do you think the why if there is a why why that was the way it was and also what do you think about the now as to why now for this book to be and what do you believe the message that is required today that is sitting in this book that wants to be illuminated it that's a good question so when i read the book again 2025 in december sitting in mexico and i said wow this is really pretty good stuff i wish i'd read it years before it would save me a lot of problems right why now yeah and i said you weren't ready you weren't i was not ready to receive the information that I had written down.

46:41Right. I mean, all that information came...

46:45Darin Olien:So you wrote it down, but it's interesting that you just said it that way. You wrote it down, but you just said you weren't ready to receive the information for yourself. Exactly. So you were channeling it, you wrote it down, but you weren't actually ready to receive the information yourself. Correct. Wow. so divine time is different than physical time and in divine time 30 years had to go by for me to grow to where I was at that point in time in order to be able to receive the information even though I had done thousands of readings for other people I was pretty open for myself I was not attuned to the information I had received over the 30 year period and so when I decided now is the time because that's what they told me and I met Samantha wonderful publisher that she is and she liked the book she agreed to publish it everything has now moved very quickly divine time opens up time for this book and you know some experience I've had you know I tell the story about this young boy who spent the last night with Jesus which is I mean astonishing meditation I had it's in the book give us a little cliff note pardon?

48:14Darin Olien:give us a little cliff note yeah so a friend of mine who is an evangelical Christian called me one day and she said I have a message for you she said this to you I said okay why don't you come over and so she came to my meditation room we sat down She said, the message is meditate with Jesus. Now, I grew up as a conservative Jewish boy. Didn't know really much about Jesus except that he lived. And he was a spiritual teacher. Powerful dude. Powerful dude. And so this whole meditation unfolded about this young boy, 15 years old. I saw what he looked like, what he was wearing. Spent the last night with Jesus.

49:02Now, that was pretty shocking. Now, I'm doing this meditation. My friend is crying. I'm crying. I'm sobbing because it was so deep of an experience for me. Even when I think about it now, I've become very emotional about it. Anyway, so the experience was so real, I went to do some research. And I found several books written by these Christian scholars. saying that it's now believed that Jesus spent the last night with this young boy. The last night? The last night. Wow. And they described the young boy, what he was wearing, which was my meditation. There's a book called The Secret Gospel of Mark, which has my meditation in it, by the way.

49:53And he talks about this...

49:55Darin Olien:It just so happens to have the... He said there's an extraneous figure. Nobody knows who it is. spent the last night with Jesus and so as a result of that meditation I began to tune in with Jesus see if I could remember what he gave to the boy what were the teachings and every time I asked that question he said you already know what they are you have to just remember them they're sending this to you yes and that's part of our soul's journey you have to remember the knowledge we already have and so a lot of the messages I put in the book were messages I got as a young boy now I know there's going to be a lot of people who are going to scream and yell about this and I understand that I never really talked about this until the book came out just to say this was my experience I'm not saying anything other than this was my shared experience.

51:02When I came into this lifetime, I came in with a sense of guilt. I didn't know why, what I was guilty about.

51:11Darin Olien:It was just in you and around you? It was in my system. And I finally talked to a good friend of mine who was a spiritual therapist. And I said, I feel this sense of guilt. So we went back into that lifetime of the young boy where Jesus had asked him to communicate his message to others, the boy tried and failed. I felt that sense of guilt that had failed. And again, it was very emotional for me. And so I asked my guides, including Jesus, why do I feel guilty? And he said, you missed the message. The message was you try. if you accepted that message and if you failed that wasn't the issue it was that you made the effort you put yourself out there and that's what we have to do in life we have to put ourselves out there we can't hide away we can't stay locked in our minds locked in our bodies we have to live our spiritual life fully yeah yeah because it's we avoid at all costs, even the uncomfortable, the uncomfortable conversations, the uncomfortable feelings.

52:32Darin Olien:We don't have the conversation, you know, and that creates a level of stuckness and aloneness. Exactly. Disconnection. Exactly. Yeah. Disconnection, not only from other people, but from ourselves. I spent a lot of my life disconnected from who I am because I was told who I was was not worthy, was not good enough. And I had to come to terms with myself, I am good enough. And there's a communication I have with my young boy. Together, we are enough. We are good enough. and it's very empowering when you connect with your own little child to let them know we're safe, we're okay. It's okay to be who we are.

53:27It doesn't matter how anybody judges us. We're okay with ourselves.

53:33Darin Olien:There's a lot of healing that can happen when we revisit these places in us that we don't even sometimes know why they're there. And painful. Yeah. And it's also important to deal with the shadow. What do you mean by that? Well, we all have our dark side, the shadow side. Yeah. And people try to run away from it. The heads and tails. Pardon? The heads and tails. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The dark and the light. Yeah. And people try to run away from the shadow. But you can't because it's who you are. We all have it. and once you embrace it, you realize it's a tremendous teacher for us. So how would one even approach going, oh, what does that even mean?

54:21Darin Olien:What is my shadow? You know what I mean? Like if you've never approached it or acknowledged it, then you're just like, I'm just me, right? I'm like thinking about my brother right now. Like, you know, I love him tremendously, but he lives his life. if I live mine, and if I were to go up to him and ask him, like, what's your shadow? He'd be like, what are you talking about? You know what I mean? So how do we, because I love these types of conversations, but I also love to see if we can bridge more, which is also why you're writing this book. And like, how do we talk about shadow in a way that people can understand?

55:03Well, so I believe that we all came into this world to be more like the divine. and that's our goal and there are times when we do something which we know is in opposite to that kind of communication make some stupid choices we do something stupid we do something hateful we say bad things to people that's the shadow

55:28Darin Olien:it's coming out and if we look at it and we say okay I know I'm doing this because I want to control somebody or I want to hurt them. That's a shadow. Yeah, because I'm like yelling at your spouse or like what the hell am I doing? I love this person and yet I'm yelling at them. Or you do something which hurts yourself. And you have to learn from that. Addiction. Addiction, good example. Why am I doing this? I know this is not good for me. What can I learn from this experience? and the shadow is your best teacher because it shows you the errors you make and why you make them if you're open to it.

56:13And you can't run away from the shadow because it stays with you because it's who you are.

56:18Darin Olien:Yeah, wherever you go, there you are. There you are. Yeah, and that's, again, I think we run away from all of these things as much as possible and it's easy to point, well, I wouldn't have done that if you would have done what I wanted. Exactly. Right? And that it doesn't solve anything. It just offloads it to this delusion of it's out there that needs to change for me to feel good. Right. And that gets into relationship. A relationship with ourself is primary. You have to really have a relationship with yourself, which is nonjudgmental, for me to have a relationship with you, which is nonjudgmental.

57:03with the divine. We have to come clean with who we are, accept who we are, forgive who we are, love who we are. That way I can love you.

57:15Darin Olien:What do you think, you know, if someone wants to be in touch with their soul, because we all, I believe to, for sure. We have a soul and I communicate with my spirit guides the way i do and it popped in and out and a lot of now i've got my mom and dad they're floating around mom most recently uh was a new council member in my uh in your spirit group in my spirit group um and it is there's something powerful just in acknowledging that even if your mind can't fully understand it there's something even now even acknowledging it now and acknowledging out loud right i do it internally all the time but just doing it literally right now there's a calm that shifts in my body because it's something that i'm tapping into that's way beyond this and is actually quite comforting comforting yeah because we are you know if i cut off my thumb my thumb my arm i think like well who's darren right it's like because i am i am way beyond my name my identity here and so just acknowledging that and again beyond religion we don't even have to get in people can still have whatever religions you want, but I think acknowledging that we are this infinite being.

58:53Yeah, and so getting back to mysticism, that's the essence of connecting with the spiritual world and bringing the spiritual world here. You know, the Our Father prayer, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done. It's bringing God's world here. And whatever God means to you.

59:13Darin Olien:As earth as it is in heaven. Yeah. and so because the spiritual world really teaches us how to live better in the physical world if we tune into our spiritual guides and we all can do this by the way and the reason why the clerics don't teach it a they're afraid of it b they lose control over who you are mysticism has nothing to do with religion you can be a jew you can be a christian you can be a Sufi. All mysticism. It goes beyond religion. Be whirling dervish. Exactly. Jesus, when he came in, railed against religion. Right. Because it was teaching... He's not religion. Pardon? He's not religion.

59:58Darin Olien:Right. It had nothing to do with religion. It was teaching the people that these people are not honest with you. They're greedy. They're taking your money. Den of thieves. Den of thieves. Den of... And so mysticism is you tuning into your own guides and connecting, and you have to be patient. You have to open up to it. First you have to recognize, I'm a soul. I come from the divine place, and I want to reconnect with that place. And you're right, it's very loving, very comforting. So when I was five years old, I got a message from my great-grandmother. It's the first time I really felt loved. Wow.

1:00:36and trusted, you know, and cared about. And I've been fortunate in the sense I've had those messages throughout, but I was open enough to accept them. I didn't think I was crazy. I didn't tell anybody because no one was going to listen anyway. But I could sense as a little boy what you were feeling. It became very confusing for me, so I had to shut it down. in order for me to survive in the physical world but i was fortunate opened back up to it yeah yeah and i think and that's where

1:01:16Darin Olien:i think the one of the messages here in this book is like we all have it and it's a language that we get to explore between our soul family and and us here and and who we really are um Yeah, what is now, 30 years later, what is your mission? Or what is the message that you think this book probably has many, of course? But what are some of the messages that you want to have occur in the world? So that's a big question. but the answer is I want everybody to understand who they are that we have a soul that the soul is really divinely connected and if we reconnect with the divine experience openly, trustingly we begin to live life differently then you and I as two souls can talk to each other doesn't matter what religion we are doesn't matter who makes more money than the other it's you and I having a conversation soul to soul and that's possible and that's the concept of mysticism I'm going to connect up with the divine, my guides and you can do that with yours and then we can talk to each other on that level I had an experience where my yoga teacher was dying I went to see him in the hospital and he and I were soul brothers he was gay but we were soul brothers, it didn't really matter and so I was sitting next to him and he was thrashing on the bed and all of a sudden he sat up straight and we looked at each other like I'm looking at you now and I saw his soul lift out of his body and in that sense he communicated to me about physical death and psychic death.

1:03:29I wrote it down. But it was, you know, it's not an apparition. I actually saw his soul leave his body, and he communicated to me about death. And so that was an experience I had. You don't talk about these things with many people because they want to put you away somewhere. But we have those connections. You have a connection with your mother. may she rest in peace and your father and one of my strongest guides is my brother my brother died at 50 we did not have a great relationship growing up in fact on a couple of occasions he tried to kill me he fed me Drano when I was three years old told me it was vanilla ice cream and I did because I trusted him last time I trusted him but he's become a very powerful guide for me now and I listen to him because I trust him he has wisdom up there I need to hear so it's connecting with who we are people go to seances people go to psychics because they believe that someone's got information for them but you have to understand you have the information you can connect it with your own guides and your own soul you don't have to go to a psychic or a seance trust yourself

1:05:04Darin Olien:that is the one of the greatest journeys and life is process you have to believe that your soul has the information that you're living out but you can't short circuit the process you know we all go through our bumps and bruises and ups and downs that's life yeah is there um now that we say that it's funny that i'm gonna ask this but is there any um you know we've known each i don't know if we've done a full you may have done a reading on me years and years ago yeah it was a long time long time ago and you've grown up exactly as i thought you would is there anything now that you tune into with me any message do you have a middle name Leslie Leslie Darren Leslie Olin

1:06:12wow so where you are now

1:06:21is nowhere near where you're going to be. Understanding your own power, and I mean this sincerely because I've known you a long time, I love you, I trust you, and I have a great deal of respect for you, person to person. But you're a very powerful being, and from where we first met, in the Malibu gym to where you are now you've done an amazing job but you're only part of the way there you have the ability

1:07:00we talk about connection to the spiritual world

1:07:10and your ability to do that is way beyond where you are now. So I really like you to tune into yourself. We talked about guides and your mother or your father, whoever it is. Let them tell you where you're going to go. Let them lead the way for you because you reach a certain level in time where you think I've done it. I'm where I'm supposed to be. For you, that's not the case.

1:07:46you're a powerful guy we've known that not just physically but emotionally and spiritually very strong I did a reading for a friend of mine the other day and her little boy is three years old and I said to her you know you're a mystic but your little boy is much more powerful than you are he's a much stronger mystic and she said I know that he's already telling me what to do so if we tune into each other and experience just who we are person to person, soul to soul you eliminate a lot of hate bias bigotry and dysfunction we're here to communicate with each other

1:08:38well you're by the way I really appreciate you having me on it's been a beautiful experience A. knowing you and B. doing this time with you here being able to communicate about the book and I call the book Inside Out A Soul's Journey because the experience really is from the inside out you can't take in the information and believe it to be your wisdom. If someone tells you, I can tell you how your journey is going to be, they wouldn't know because it's just your journey. When I do readings for people, it's to let them know who they are so they can experience their own journey without judgment.

1:09:29I'm not telling you what to do. Psychics will tell you whether you're going to get married or not, whether you're going to buy a car or not. That's taking away your journey. You know, it's uncovering who you are so you can live out your journey.

1:09:44Darin Olien:And so you can trust yourself on that level. You have to trust yourself. And that's hard. Yeah, it can be. And it can be, and it also can be really easy. If you learn to trust yourself. If you learn to do it, then it becomes more, the muscle becomes easier to trust. As you've demonstrated. It's a muscle. We don't use it very much. Because we tend to trust other people. You know, if you go to a priest or a rabbi, you think they know more than you do. They don't. They may have more study than you, but spiritually they're not any more aware than you are if you trust that. I'm not saying give up religion.

1:10:28Religion can be a good thing from, you know, holidays and gifts and presents like that.

1:10:37Darin Olien:you know yeah like create some ceremonial structure ceremony is wonderful you know ritual is wonderful yeah there's a lot of great things to it obviously and it also can take you off your own you know that's that's the point like don't it's like going to a doctor don't give your power away listen and like okay do your own research do your own research so when i had the meditation with young boy and Jesus, I didn't believe it myself. So I went and did the research. I found the books. I described the books. And then I started studying Kabbalah, mysticism. And the Kabbalist Ephesians were my own belief system.

1:11:23In sync. And I began to trust all of that belief system.

1:11:29Darin Olien:you have to trust yourself yeah well dude you're an amazing human being and i am so honored that we got to do this but also just i'm so grateful for you in my life for this long and helping me in so many different ways supporting me and us getting to just you know support each other and this thing and I'm just proud of you I am honored and I'm just stoked that this gets to come out and also for you just to open up this side of you publicly because that's also part of your journey to like okay it's time so thank you for trusting you and thank you for helping me on my journey too well i i feel the same way about you by the way some years ago i went to see a psychic referred to me by a friend and she said one day you're going to write a book i said okay and the book came out and um and being with you during these past 20 plus years has been wonderful for me as well because we've learned to be more than just, you know, professional relationship.

1:12:54We're dear friends. We trust each other. And my coming out publicly with my life and this part of my life, it makes me feel very vulnerable. But I have to trust it's the right time and the right thing to do. So I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, thank you.

1:13:15Darin Olien:And thanks for sharing it to the Super Life family, because this is the the inner world is one of the most important that that all people get to discover about themselves and and share it and share it yeah and trust it and trust it yeah thanks buddy