SuperLife Best of 2025 Holiday Special — Year-End Reflection & Awakening

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29:59Darin Olien:Stress is a silent killer, but we can hack it. Jim Poole details the incredible 19-year journey to invent NuCalm, a technology that uses physics and math to bypass our trauma response and force the brain into a deep sense and state of restoration. So our journey began 34 years ago. 34 years ago. Dr. Blake Holloway was a neuroscientist, a quantum physicist, an exceptionally gifted, compassionate human being. He had a clinical practice in Texas And he served highly complex trauma victims, mostly with a comorbidity of finding solace in drugs and alcohol. Whether they came out of the theater of war, Texas having, you know, Texas, California and Florida have the highest level or highest number of veterans.

30:55Or they came out of trauma, complex trauma, sexual abuse, ritualistic abuse, violence, doesn't matter. So his whole genesis of how this came to be started with this thesis. The brain and the body know how to heal itself. If I can liberate the chaos of stress and fear and anxiety and the grip, the post-trauma grip that the brain has, and it's constantly in this state of hypervigilance. If I can take the brain and hold it in a space called theta, which is a specific brainwave frequency, the body can heal. So how do I do it? How would I do that? So in the brainwave function of a human being, there's five categories of brainwaves.

31:42Many people don't know this, but it's all a frequency range. And one thing that I like about it is it's math and physics. It's not up for debate. It doesn't say, hey, Darren, I wonder if I want to take care of you today. Or, hey, you know, you have cancer. I wonder if I want to take care of you. No, there's five categories of brainwave. There's delta, theta, and alpha, which are slow waveforms in sleep. Then there's beta and gamma in action. So the goal and the hypothesis and the thesis in 1990 was how can I bring your brainwave, my brainwave, and anybody's brainwave to four hertz? Because in that state and in that frequency, which is just above deep sleep, is where your cells clean their toxins, do their cellular maintenance, and your mitochondria is restored.

32:25It is the restorative aspect of why we sleep. So there you go. There's the idea. How are you going to do it? Well, there's two ways to trick the human brain. There's visual stimulation, made famous by Sigmund Freud in a pocket watch. This is called frequency following response. You're following a frequency to elicit a response. But in that state, Darren, there's about 30 to 35 % of the human population that can avoid being managed through visual stimulation. Now, a lot of people would say it's because their amygdala is over-inflamed and they're in a state of chaos. The other way to do this is through the auditory motor cortex, through your ears.

33:04So this is what Dr. Holloway invented, and this is what he perfected. So he built a software. The software has complex math algorithms and physics, and it's one to two to three gigabytes of information. It's a software. Using your ears as a carrier and composing music on top of it to create a nice experience for you. You put headphones on. You can't hear what we're doing. You hear music. We're using your ears to present your brain with a signal and your brain synchronizes to that signal. So the complexity is amazing. The science is amazing. I'll get into kind of how we kind of got here. But we're a neuroscience company.

33:48We're not an app company. 34 years ago, apps didn't exist. We're not a gizmo. We're not a gadget. We're not a visor. We are a neuroscience company. We came to the world in our form of a$6 ,000 FDA class 3 medical device, November 5th, 2009, to medicine, specifically for surgery. We came to replace general anesthesia so that you could be operated on by having your brain levitated in this theta brainwave state where you're lucid, but not really, you're in a dream state, your body's available, and you're being cut open in a hospital listening to our physics. So I often joke, someone says, hey, how are you different from calm or headspace?

34:37I said, why don't you go have a surgery done with that? Tell me how that goes. It's not going to go well. So we're a neuroscience company that began our journey 34 years ago. Dr. Holloway spent 19 years of his life, trial and error, persistence, patience. This man, I wish so much that he was still here. He passed away four years ago this week. He was so freaking amazing. I've never met anybody like him. We have 52 medical advisors on our advisory board. NASA mathematicians, statistical biophysicists from Harvard Medical School, psychoneuroimmunologists. We have a who's who. You took all 52 of our advisors and put them in one room, Blake in the other room, and you'd be like, I'm going to take that room.

35:22He was a freak. A freak amongst freaks. Genius amongst genius. It took him 19 years to figure this out. That's all I needed to know.

35:31Darin Olien:Physical fitness isn't just about vanity. It's about survival. Dr. Ricky Brown recounts the terrifying moment a propane grill exploded in his face and how his muscle mass provided the metabolic reserve he needed to heal from the severe burns without skin grafts. I hear you had a not-so-great moment at your grill. Yeah. Yes. And you got some severe burns, but you approached it a little differently than the average person. Yeah, I did. This was nuts. So this summer in August, we have a little island outside with a grill embedded in it, and there's a propane tank underneath. And it was a flat-top grill.

36:18We just got a new flat-top grill and lit it, kind of walked away to let it preheat. middle of the summer here, it's 120 degrees. So the grill felt hot to me when I walked back over. My wife was like, something smells funny. And I was like, yeah, it does. I think it's the gas. So I turned it off thinking that the gas would just sort of dissipate that was collecting between the flat top and the burner because you can't see the burner. Well, little did I know that the entire island was just filling with propane because propane is a heavy gas. It goes down. So it filled the island. And so I've come to learn that the islands are supposed to be vented and ours was not.

36:57There's cinder blocks that are stuccoed. So it's basically a bomb. So I walked back over to relight the grill. And the second I ignite it, it explodes into my legs. So the tank was right below where my legs were. And the metal doors flew open, huge fireball, kind of burned my arm a little bit, not bad, but essentially from my knees below were almost circumferential burns on both legs. Like just instantaneously, I looked down and saw skin hanging off my legs. So with my burn trauma history, I went and got in the swimming pool really quickly just to cool my legs off. But when I got out, I was like, holy crap, like this is, this is real.

37:40Like I just became a burn victim. So long story short, they ended up being second degree burns and we weren't sure if I was going to have to have skin grafts, if they were going to convert to third degree burns or not. But, um, I got admitted to the hospital about three or four days after I went into the burn unit here, which is one of the top in the country. Our Maricopa County burn center is insanely amazing. And they cleaned me up. They dress them. She's like, I want to see you back in three days. I come back in three days. She's like, I want to keep you take you to surgery. We got to make sure that some of this is bleeding so that or not, we're going to start cutting stuff away and skin grafting you.

38:16So at that moment, so I went in for that procedure and she was like, well, not great bleeding, but it's bleeding. So let's, let's just continue your dressing changes. We put these special amniotic grafts on your legs and I want to see you back next week. So that was the moment where I went into, okay, it's time for hyperbaric exosomes, which are like stem cells, vitamin drips, you name it. I started like attacking everything that I could think of holistically that would help me heal and repair and get better without, you know, trying to avoid having a skin graft because I knew what that meant for me too.

38:57So I did that. I did hyperbaric for about 10 days straight, was kind of sprinkling exosomes on them because I know where to get that stuff and you know I understand I'm privileged to know where that is and be able to get that but I started doing everything I could and when I went back to see her I saw her a week later and she was like holy shit you're like healed I'm like I know I've been healed for three days already and so she was just blown away and obviously happy and blown away that I probably wasn't going to need skin grafts. So when I peel back all of this, part of it too, Darren, is I contribute a lot of this to my health status going into this burn.

39:45Darin Olien:Sometimes hitting rock bottom is the only way to find your path. Chef Bai shares her journey through the chronic illness and medical trauma and how the failure of Western medicine led her to the kitchen where she found her cure and her calling. I've been in chronic pain from it since I was 11 years old. And it was just like a battle of the chemicals is what it felt like. You know, you're trading symptoms for side effects. I was on so many pills. I was on birth control at 11 years old. I was having surgery. People offered me hysterectomies when I was in my early 20s. People offered to put me into early menopause because no Western medicine doctor had an answer for me.

40:27No one. I saw hundreds of doctors. I had surgeries. I had horrible medical trauma happened to me. And the thing that's so crazy about this is it takes on average 10 years for a woman to be officially diagnosed with endometriosis. And then, and that is like 10 years of them saying, I'm in excruciating pain and people not believing them or just passing over a birth control pill and saying, this is enough. And it literally takes 10 years on average. And then after that, there's no answers. And I think what radicalized me, I mean, you said that word before, and I just, I love that because what radicalized me is having no options and looking my doctor who performed my last surgery on me like eight years ago, dead in the face and saying, can you tell me that diet has anything to do with endometriosis and chronic period pains?

41:13And she said, no, there's absolutely no correlation. You have to be on birth control until you hit menopause. And at that moment, I was like, I'm done. I don't want to do this anymore. I'm tapping out of Western medicine. Like this has been the worst experience. And that is when I got obsessed with researching about agriculture and nutrition. And I didn't go into this thinking I'm going to be vegan. I'm going to go plant-based. I went into this just with an open mind, with my back against the wall and tons of medical trauma and being like, I need something else because there is not an answer for me.

41:46And what I found is that there are millions of women just like myself, not just with endo, but with PCOS, with thyroid issues, with all sorts of things, eczema, baryosis, like, you know, arthritis, and not just women, of course, too, you know, so it's just this, this thing where you realize that one in two people have a chronic illness, but it's all stemming from the same stuff, you know?

42:11Darin Olien:Oh, man. I mean, I mean, but that but but the motivation when you're back again is against the wall. And then, you know, it's just so shocking to me, even to this day, and to hear it yet again, in your situation where a doctor literally lets that come out of their mouth, where they they truly believe that there is no cause of the issue. It's, it's almost as if this idea that the body's just broken, the body doesn't know how to, to deal it. So yeah, you're missing birth control medication that that's your, that's your go to. So, so we've got to medicalize you, we've got to cut you and operate on you.

43:06Darin Olien:And that's the path. And to say out of your mouth, it has no correlation so when you create an environment for healing healing happens period yeah and also the opposite happens right so it's just such a beautiful part of the motivation because again it's not about you need needing to convert people it's all you came through the healing process to then use your skills and your and your abilities to put delicious food together so that people I knew food that's what that's what I knew so I was like I'm gonna work with what I got you know I think that's the most important thing I was like I'm just gonna use this thing that I know because I've been you know in business for myself as a private chef since I was 19 I've been working in kitchen since I was 11 so this is like my thing you know so this is what I do.

44:01It's what I understand. Food makes sense. And food is also the easiest way to connect to somebody. It's the easiest way to break down barriers and to have conversations and to make new friends. And it just felt like the perfect, you know, I was like, I'm just going to, just going to go all in and send it with this, this, this horrible thing that I've had to go through, but I'm honestly, I'm grateful for it. I'm grateful for all the doctors that made me so angry that it kind of, you're right. It gave me so much fuel to the doctors that tried to put me on antidepressants because I was being so combative in the doctor's office.

44:38I'm almost like, you know what? Thank you. Because you gave me so much fuel to not only like write cookbooks and do this and have conversations like with you, but also have thousands and thousands of women specifically that come to me with the same exact situation, the same exact scenario. They're going into a pre-op appointment and they're so scared and they feel so alone and they don't know how to advocate for themselves. And a big part of my work is teaching people how to advocate for themselves because you don't have to be a victim of this system. You can use the doctor as a tool to get to an end.

45:15If you like, I'm not saying all Western medicine is bad. Like there are obviously life-saving things. My best friend's a surgeon, but like you use it as a tool. You don't have to be trapped in a system if you don't want to be, you know, you can go to the doctor's office and ask them to help you with something. If they're refusing to help you in a way that aligns with your values or who you are, who you want to be, or you just have a bad feeling, it's okay to walk away. You know, it's okay to find something else. And I think, yeah, if there's any women listening to this who feel that way, like you're not alone.

45:47You know, there's millions of women in the, in the U S specifically that are stuck in this trap. And yeah, it's crazy.

45:54Darin Olien:And largely, yes, it took a while for things to show up and for symptoms to show up and for these things to start derailing. But it also is simple steps to start unraveling that, too. And to counter the doctor, 100 % that has to do with food and your mental. So much. Yeah. And your point of view about your life and taking your sovereignty back and you are not a victim. Don't give your power away. All of those things. And then make some delicious food and share it with your family and share it with your friends and celebrate that. Before we continue the pod, I want to share something. I've tried so many supplements.

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48:15Darin Olien:Go to manavitality.com. That's M-A-N-N-A vitality.com. Use the code Darren20 and you get 20 % off your order. This isn't about health. It's about living in harmony with your greatest and highest potential. To identify as a DJ before he even had the skills. And how the universe conspired to put him on the main stage just days after. We often feel powerless to stop plastic pollution. But Sheila Moravati proves that one question can change everything. Hear how she tackled the default setting on the food delivery apps and saved the planet from over a billion pieces of plastic cutlery. It was during COVID.

49:07Everybody's ordering in and there's just that junk drawer is just growing and growing. And I'm like, but like, why is a default setting here to automatically give you plastic cutlery when food psychology studies have been done that people prefer eating with a heavier utensil? I mean, and you're at home and you have access to those. So we pushed and we started asking the question and convinced Uber Eats to change the default. And every user got plastic cutlery upon request after they complied. And then it went to DoorDash and Postmates and Grubhub. And then it became a state law in California and New York City.

49:40And ever since we began this thing, it has saved over a billion pieces of plastic cutlery. But it all began with the question, like, why is the default setting this way? So like, what what other questions, you know, can we bring up? And I think like all my campaigns that I have, I have about 10 of them. Those are questions that come up like a thorn in my side as I wake up in the middle of the night. Like, why is that that way? Like, what else can we do? You know, we were just talking with the head of sustainability at Google a while ago. And I said, why don't all Nest, you know, the thermometers come in with the eco setting as the default?

50:17There's my eco lights. Anybody's watching us.

50:25Why is the eco? Why is the eco setting like at 68 or whatever it is that should be automatic from the company? because when you get your computer from Apple or whatever, there's a million default settings in there that no one's going to ever even look at or touch. And the truth is we have to start questioning those default settings that someone else has selected for us. And it doesn't necessarily have to be in your tech stuff. It can be in any part of your life. For example, when you go on Google Maps, if the eco setting starts to become the default, do you know how much of a carbon offset we can create through that because there's billions of users on just that map right there.

51:08And, and, you know, it might take one or two minutes longer. And, and if you're in a huge rush, okay, go into the other, you know, routes, but if the default can be a little bit greener all across the board in our lives, you know, multiplied by the sheer numbers we do, we can do so much. And, and, you know, my position on plant-based eating, and, and even if you could do that part time, part time, even, you know, if the masses can be get get in there, that's the most single most important thing an individual can do is eating more plant based meals. So I can go on and on about this. But the defaults are really something that is curious for me.

51:47And I try to pick apart default settings wherever I can. Yeah.

51:52Darin Olien:And even on that Google Maps thing, that's basically an energy saver at that point, right? Yeah. And then you multiply it by billions of users. And the numbers get ridiculous at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I think my wish for every tech company is to sit down and with your sustainability person or whatever, and just assess your default settings. Where can we do better? What are the defaults that are not permitting us to do better without even having the choice? Let's start there. You know, that that's like low hanging fruit. I I love low hanging fruit. Like that's my middle name. Just where can we just begin to say, okay, we can shift this, shift that and see what the numbers are.

52:33And it's all data. It's all science and it's no skin off anybody's back. And that's where I like to begin my suggestions to big, large corporations or legislation. Like, you know, when we did the cutlery ban in state of California, we really didn't go in talking about environment because no one wants to hear that, unfortunately. But what we did say is Postmates saved these restaurants$3.2 million for participating in this default setting change because they saved 122 million packs of cutlery. So I did some basic math. 122 million packs of cutlery equal$3.2 million in savings. Well, how can you argue at that point that people are fine eating with their cutlery at home?

53:19If they need it, they'll request it. We're saving restaurants money. And side note, we're saving the planet too from all this unnecessary garbage.

53:28Darin Olien:History is written by the victors, but sometimes the translation is wrong. Cameron Waters challenges a 2000 year old narrative suggesting that Jesus wasn't angry about money in the temple of thieves, but about the massive animal slaughter taking place. Essentially, there's this famous story in the scripture about Jesus going and cleansing the temple. And this was part, also part of what you're talking about, because I just want to circle back to, if Jesus was here today, he'd be canceled upside down and sideways. Yeah, for many things. For many things, right? Because he wasn't religious in that sense.

54:14Darin Olien:He was that enlightened spiritual gangster in a certain sense so that's that's the that's the kind of the i believe more of the real truth about the character of who he was and that ethical kind of uh warrior yeah um that moral warrior that moral compass um so anyway so so now the den of thieves Right. So most people are familiar with Easter, the holiday, and they may be familiar if they go at least once to church. You know, a lot of people around the world I know don't necessarily practice Christianity, but they may go to church on Easter. And at some point they maybe have heard this story, whether it's Palm Sunday or Easter, but it's the story of Jesus triumphantly entering the city of Jerusalem and kind of laying the hammer down.

55:11When I was growing up, it was always the sermon that pastors gave to express what righteous anger can look like. When you finally had enough and you just have to do something about it, and that it's okay to actually stand your ground and maybe protest a little bit. Because Jesus is seen as such a passive character. Like you said, there's so many other ways that he turned everything on its head. I mean, just the idea of forgiving and loving your enemies, turning the other cheek when you've been hit and given your enemy the other cheek. This was completely upside down in the world that he was living in.

55:43But this was the one moment where he went in and he actually expressed some ferocious emotion around his beliefs. And the way the story is told is that he goes into Jerusalem and it's Passover week, which is kind of like the Jewish Easter. And it's when they bring in all the pilgrims come from all of the areas around Jerusalem and they come to celebrate at the Temple Mount, which is kind of the big central church of the, you know, it's a temple, but we think of it like a church today. And they're bringing all of these sacrificial animals, particularly lambs, to slaughter for the Passover. Now, when I was growing up, the way that picture is painted is you see it in your mind, almost like this beautiful church service and everyone's praising and singing and whatnot.

56:32And maybe there's some animals, you know, a couple of lambs being sacrificed, but there's no blood and it's beautiful and it's just, you know, to cleanse sins and whatever. but the reality is when we started researching the topic and really understanding and looking at the historical record, this place is a bloodbath. I mean, there are animals being slaughtered by the tens of thousands, at least. There are documents and records that say hundreds of thousands to even millions. I think that's maybe a little bit of an exaggeration, how historical documentation can go, but we know at minimum it's like tens of thousands.

57:01So much that the record says that the priests at times were waiting up to, you know, above their ankles in blood. That was not what I learned growing up. So that's setting the scene of just this kind of bloodbath of this temple and the smoke going up from them barbecuing the flesh afterwards, and some of it's for God, some of it's for the priest to consume, and then the rest of the meat and everything served out to the community around. And this would be the most animals consumed in that time of any other period. Most people were so poor they couldn't afford to really consume animals that frequently, so this was it.

57:35So in a way, you can think of the temple as almost like a slaughterhouse. The temples around the world, not even just in the Jewish religion, but in Hinduism and everything as we explore in the film, temples are kind of the first model for slaughterhouses. It's how they took a mass amount of animals, processed them quickly. They just did it in this really spiritual format. So anyhow, going back to the way the story is told, traditionally, is Jesus goes in, and he gets upset because people are buying and selling merchandise, they always say, in church services. And he particularly gets mad, and the focus is on the money being exchanged, because another part of the whole corruption of the system is the priest at that time had gotten collusion with the Roman Empire, and there was a tax that when you came in with some foreign currency or whatever, it's kind of like in the airport when you go to another country and there's a little bit of an exchange rate.

58:30they were putting these exorbitant exchange rates on the the tax for the the the coins that you could use and so jesus goes in and this is the famous part of the story as he flips the tables and the money scatters everywhere and he says this famous phrase it is written meaning in the old testament in the bible that he read you know uh the the the prophets and the you know genesis and the Torah and everything. He says, it is written, my house, meaning the temple, shall be a house of prayer for all nations, but you've made it a den of thieves. And he's speaking to the priests at the time. Well, thieves matches the money situation.

59:11So it's gelled into this perfect story of, yeah, Jesus doesn't want commodification in his holy places, right? Which totally makes sense. And I totally agree with, I think that's a part of the story. However, there's been this focus on only the money and not realizing this slaughterhouse element that's going on. And so what we explore in the film is that could there be a possibility that maybe he's seeing all the blood and the suffering and the animals in the temple and having some condemnation towards that? And so when you bring in the information that we have about the Nazarenes, and then particularly that statement, you've made my house a den of thieves, that's the real crux of the film, is that that word thieves has been a gross mistranslation of the statement, which Jesus actually said.

1:00:03And the reason why is because that word thieves is translated in English from the Hebrew New Testament. I'm sorry, the Greek New Testament, because all of the writings of the stories of Jesus were written in Greek, because by the time they were written, it was the Greco-Roman world. The way to publish a book and get the most people to read it was to write it in Greek. However, Jesus was a Hebrew prophet. He was a rabbi. he was in a Hebrew temple on a Hebrew holiday speaking to Hebrew priests, there's no way he'd be speaking in Greek. He'd be speaking and condemning in Hebrew. So you have to go back to what's the Hebrew version or word for that word thieves.

1:00:46And it turns out Jesus is quoting an Old Testament prophet, Jeremiah. And when you go to Jeremiah's statement, you've made it a den of thieves. Because Jeremiah, all the prophets were talking about this for years and years and hundreds of years before she he wasn't the only one he was finally fulfilling and going in and doing

1:01:03Darin Olien:something about it you have to be it before you can see it red foo shares a master class in manifestation recounting the time he simply decided the work wasn't work it was play it was fun and then the manifestation just happened and people would show up um for instance i said i I started saying yes to everything, you know, saw the Jim Carrey movie. We actually wrote a song called Yes. And so I'll give you an example. I was playing around and I had ideas like I want to become a DJ. And I noticed that when people, I said, if anybody asks me, what am I doing? Is that just tell them you're a DJ. Don't say you're a starting out.

1:01:47I'm learning. just say and all of a sudden knock on the door within 20 30 minutes of this idea is almost like a neighbor comes down and goes oh my god I've been hearing some music it's so cool um you know I really like your style you know I was like oh okay and I wanted to say well you know it's um I wanted to like downplay myself give all the excuse yeah like well no it's just and I said oh thanks just thanks and she goes i have a party it's coming up and i need a dj are and she goes are you a dj and it was like this weird like corny like wait i just said if somebody asked me i just said this in my mind she's like are you and it was like that deep are you a dj you know like like with echo and low right and i said this is god working through her yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah.

1:02:41And I was like, and I wanted to say my old self would have said, well, you know, I'm, I would, I'm practicing. I mean, you know, and it was like this weird and I just go.

1:02:56And she goes, okay, good. I want you to do my party. And it's on Friday. And I said, oh, yeah. Yeah. How many people? 30, 40 people. And I said, let's do it. Let's do it. And then I said, okay, so when's the date? And she's like, oh, it's in October. And it's like three months. It's like a Friday three months. So I had like three months. Wow. And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, okay. So I did all these unconventional things. I asked her what her favorite music was. Most DJs, they don't take requests. I didn't understand that that was a rule or a constraint. So I was like, give me all your favorite songs.

1:03:34And it was an eight-hour set, and I killed it. And I practiced every day. Then after that, I called the late, great DJ AM. um um and uh he he uh i called him for gratitude and i just said i want to thank you for inspiring me that i really he inspired me i used to watch him dj and i said yeah i was doing this party for eight hours and i was doing what you talk about doing and slowing down and all this technical stuff and he goes okay cool man hey yeah cool awesome and then he hung up and i just felt good but just giving back to, and he calls me the next day and he goes, and this is two days, this is in December now.

1:04:19This is two days before New Year's Eve. And he goes, are you a DJ? I mean, do you DJ clubs? And I go, yeah, yeah, man, I DJ, I DJ. I mean, yeah, I could, yeah. He goes, the DJ that's supposed to do the biggest club in LA, LAX, on New Year's, His flight is, he got stuck in Africa on his flight, right? And I'm looking for a DJ. I have to do Vegas. So, and he goes, and I mean, come on, this is the biggest night, New Year's Eve. And I go, he goes, so are you down to do it? And I go, yeah. Yeah, yeah, man.

1:05:00Darin Olien:This is two days. Two days after this. Okay, so two days after I did the gratitude, he called. No, and then two days before. right and I so you know I got on I went to the record store by that time they still had that that old school store in in Hollywood forget what it's called and you could buy CDs and stuff man I was ripping CDs I was getting my mp3s because it was a you know the DJ's software Serato so use mp3s and I started getting all buying all the CDs and uh it was one of my best sets I took requests the guy paid me a hundred dollars to play jump from crisscross way back but I had And then doing that girl's party, I had all the old school hits.

1:05:40And then I imagined I'm going to do so well that they're going to ask me back to be a resident DJ. Sure enough, a day after, they called and said, you know, we have a Thursday night that's open. And there was a Korean community or something. And they were doing, it was like a Korean night. And they said, are you down? Are you down to do it? And I said, yeah, yeah, I am. And then from there, all this stuff was working. But after seeing the secret, do only what you want and just, you know, saying yes to the things you want. Now, obviously, I'm not going to say yes to something that I don't want to do that.

1:06:22But if you want to do it, positive, strong, yes. And if it's something you thought about, don't be that meek middle because they can sense that. And they get a little nervous, you know, like, oh, well, he doesn't. He's not sure. He's not this. And so, and there's that fine line. It's not like lying. If you're scratching on a record and going backwards and put, you're a DJ. You may not, you know, it may not be the best DJ in the world or, you know, that's an opinion. And so that's how it all started.

1:06:51Darin Olien:Okay, everybody. Are you ready to upgrade your operating system? I know I am. I'm always game to do that. Not just physically, but mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. That's what we're doing over at Super Life Patreon. This isn't just behind-the-scenes membership. It's a global experiment in conscious living that I am connected to, committed with, in every cell of my body. Each week, you'll get exclusive access to deeper podcast conversations, extended interviews, voice notes from the road of me personally, personal reflections, behind-the-scenes footage, community wellness challenges, and even surprise drop-ins that I no longer do on social media because I don't really dig it anymore.

1:07:44Darin Olien:We're talking decentralized healing, reclaiming sovereignty, ancient wisdom meets future tech, and a tribe of people with you walking the path. If you love this podcast, the Patreon is where we go deeper, get more real, and reclaim our power together. Join us at patreon.com forward slash Darren Olean. That's Patreon, P-A-T-R-E-O-N.com forward slash Darren Olin, D-A-R-I-N-O-L-I-E-N. Join the movement, support the mission, let's rise together. We often talk about the future of food, but what if the future isn't about growing the whole plant at all? Ian Sobel changes the game with biofarming. Listen as he explains how we can mirror nature to grow just the cells we need, magnifying the power of nutrients like Pisaid resveratrol by a hundred times without even touching the soil.

1:08:50We took the red grape, a really good red grape, and we took cells from the red grape from the skin, from the actual tissue, and from the seed because this is all the areas where the critical phytonutrients, polyphenols, the pie seed resveratrol actually gets produced. And we took those cells and we literally did thousands of experiments in a Petri dish, right? Today we do it more advanced with AI. but ultimately what we did is we did these thousands of experiments where we changed the food we feed the cells. We changed the lighting, the temperature, and a bunch of other variables that even if you tie me up, I can't talk about on this program.

1:09:38And at this stage, we get the cells to do two things. One, we get the cells to produce the exact same mirror of the phytonutrients that the plant produces. and two we focus on a hero molecule in our case it was the piscaid resveratrol say it again piscaid amazing it was the piscaid resveratrol that we increase by an order of magnitude and we figured out how to increase the piscaid resveratrol by more than 100 times versus what's found in the red grape. And then we lock the cell bank and we never go back to the plant again. And importantly, everything that we're doing is non-GMO. We do not in any way change the RNA, DNA, the molecular structure.

1:10:30All we're doing is we're creating an environment for the cells, the really important cells, to be able to produce what we want them to produce and in the way that we want them to produce, i.e. the magnification. And we lock the cell bank and then we had to figure out, and this is the really hard part. So we've mirrored and we've magnified. We mirrored the polyphenols, we magnified the Pisces. But then the really tough part actually happens. And this is the part that today no other company has figured out. and we with the most zealous, conscientious, I would say, somewhat crazy PhD plant cell biologists that have, or females by the way, have had the sheer determination to literally climb Mount Everest and back.

1:11:24They have broken biological barriers and we figured out how to get a cell from a petri dish and how to toughen up that cell to grow in a large industrial-scale bioreactor in liquid media and produce and elicit all of these phytonutrients. And the human insight, or I would say scientific insight here, and it's amazing when you think about the total plant kingdom and how we are interrelated as human beings with the plant kingdom.

1:11:58Darin Olien:I'll get that a little closer. The key insight that we realized is that plant cells are like human cells. They have memories. And we figured out a way to train the cells, to almost toughen the cells up, strengthen them to go from a Petri dish in solid media, where they're nice and warm and cozy, to then be able to grow in industrial-scale bioreactors, 1 ,200 liters in liquid media with sheer forces, and they grow and they multiply, and they multiply over an 18 to 21-day period. We watch the growth of the cells. We catch them at the perfect moment as they've produced these critical phytonutrients, the Pisced, resveratrol, and the other polyphenols.

1:12:52We harvest the cells. We're left with a rich mud of cells that we simply dry, simply dry those cells. And importantly, Darren, there's no insecticides. There's no herbicides. There's no fungicides. I'm not dealing with heavy metals because I grow these cells in aseptic bioreactors. And there's no solvents because we're simply drying the red grape cell powder so that in one capsule, one capsule of Vinia, a red grape cell blood flow superfood, we are actually, we have the same amount of Piseed resveratrol. Say it again. Piseed. Getting better. Of Piseed resveratrol as 1 ,000 red grapes. Wow. 1 ,000 red grapes, obviously no sugar, no calories.

1:13:48And in the case of alcohol, wine, it's equivalent to one bottle of red wine without the sugar, the calories and the alcohol. And this is what's built this brand to become today the number one resveratrol only brand on Amazon.

1:14:08Darin Olien:There is a hidden highway inside of you that modern medicine has largely ignored and doesn't know much about. Dr. Jess breaks down the mystery of fascia, that bioelectric web that holds all of us together and explains why this sensory rich tissue might be the missing link to understanding chronic pain and trauma. If I have a trauma or strain and I pull the shirt, right, all of the shirt is now affected by this pull. But the truth is, it's not just a shirt. It's the entire body. Correct. And all of it is connected. There's not one other system in the body that literally is connecting everything.

1:14:59Everything. So that right there should be like power, right? Like even for somebody who doesn't study, doesn't want to get into the science-y stuff, just saying that statement should be like, that's power. just saying the statement that I started with knowing that it's proven there's 40 to 52 pounds of it in your body. I've never heard that before.

1:15:17Darin Olien:Really? So you hear that how can you just say here let me just disregard this you can't right and I think what you showed is awesome because that is what I call cause sight pain sight and that's how I teach it. You know I could have a blockage uh here on my shirt and we'll go this way because of what I'm wearing but if I have a cause it here and it's pulling well guess what now pain is going to be here this is where my pain is going to be here sure so it's never usually exactly where the pain is you have to look at where is it pulling from and to your point when you look at it like one big sheath like sticky spider web that can get caught up you just want the flow when you don't have flow through it then we get those blockages and we start having those patterns right the fascial patterns that go on that create different things in the body.

1:16:07So somebody trained in it is going to be able to take a look and be like, oh, oh God, my hip, oh this, well, it's your foot. Well, what do you mean it's your foot? No, I'm telling you right now that it's coming from your foot. Like, and that's not true for everyone, but it kind of is. You need to look at things in the body in a different way. And for current clinicians, it can get hard. I work and talk with so many PTs and they're very open. Like, this is not even taught in school. Like we know it's there, but like you said, it's kind of like we move past it right but when you're looking at it how can we just take away what's holding the muscle what's holding the nerve what's holding your circulatory system like you can't just discredit all that so i think i really like to teach in terms everybody can understand and i just think you have to think of it as your scaffolding your housing right like everything that holds you together fascia can withstand 2 000 pounds per square inch of pressure why do you think if say you were to get punched in the gut right yeah everything's protected but it's really the fascia that's being able to do that and to be able to balance the power in the body so i mean to me i think this is going to become so mainstream i think it's going to completely change the well-being industry and i really think it's getting the credit it deserves and these are just facts that are already scientifically proven out there by leading researchers in the fields.

1:17:32Darin Olien:Yeah, that's amazing. And it's, you know, the wild thing is we're talking about it and I'm glad we're talking about it, but it's like a 40 to 50 pound structure. Correct. That no one's talking about. Correct. It's like discovering, here's my right arm. Yes. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, wow. Wow, I thought I just had the left. Yes. You know, and that's the moment. Relationships are often about compromise, but sometimes they require a hard line in the sand. In this powerful moment, Gabby Reese opens up about the ultimatum she gave to her husband, Laird Hamilton. A choice that didn't just save their marriage, but deepen their love and respect for one another.

1:18:26Darin Olien:Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I remember it. You said, hey, this isn't going to work for me. You can keep doing whatever you're doing. You're going to have access to the children, all of that stuff. You weren't going to go gnarly in all of those weird ways, but you couldn't no longer be in this. And so you set. Well, it was 12 years. Right. And it sort of had accelerated because you figure, I met Laird when he was 31. then he sort of started getting kind of this attention at 35 36 and i think that's when he had to dance and figure it out and then you know you got to go through shit so we went through some shit and i think that what's interesting is the minute laird saw either i'm going to lose my family i was pregnant with our our youngest daughter um or i i potentially have hurt gabby and I don't mean physically, he just stopped.

1:19:22And to your point, because I'm well aware that, you know, and I was 37, like I was an adult. It couldn't be that I said, you better. If it didn't occur to him, he wasn't going to stop. And so I just presented my side, which is like, hey, I love you, but I just can't hold my breath anymore. Because I would just go to bed and go, I could wake up in the morning and Laird has either like a broken neck or he's dead because he's because he doesn't do like out in public at a bar kind of guy. He's like in farm equipment on the pineapple field, you know. And I was like, but take your time and decide because maybe life's too boring for you without it.

1:20:05Because I'm the I was the other way. I grew up in the Virgin Islands where everybody drank. So my adult life, I didn't that alcohol wasn't really part of my life.

1:20:12Darin Olien:and so and that was it yeah but it was a boundary for you like and that's that's where no one's telling laird what to do no one no not even now maybe daughters say some stuff that i go whoa whoa that was good right but they're the only ones right yeah so the way you did it was number one a boundary for you you had to make a choice and then that was wildly and weirdly and perfectly an invitation for him to see the effect. Yeah. And thank God he chose. Well, you know what's interesting is people, when they're in new relationships, they kind of don't know what they could deal with. And I will say this.

1:21:01When you're with a person and they have a behavior that is not great for them, and then that would mean not great for the family or the partnership, and they make a distinct change not only can people like recover from a lot of things but you will never love respect and appreciate your partner more when they're able to do that because you also have a reference of they used to be like this and now they're doing something completely different right it is one of the more inspiring things to be a part of it in a partnership because to change is really hard. So when they do that, the depth, I mean, I held my breath for six months.

1:21:45I was like, okay, let's see how this is going to go.

1:21:52But it's an opportunity for love to grow. And also then the other person can be like, oh, that person can really be there for me in a real way. And also Laird had already done that for me. I had a meltdown at 30 and split. it. And I said to Laird, when we got through some of this stuff, I said, you know, somebody showed me forgiveness, and that's you. And so what happens is, is when you can develop this thing where you realize this person genuinely has my back, especially when I say I'm going to do this and I do it different, because that's got to be part of the deal, right?

1:22:29Darin Olien:We live in a fragile system, and few people understand the vulnerability of our power grid like Johnny Graham. Here he breaks down the terrifying reality of an EMP event. But most importantly, he shares the practical, off-the-shelf solar solutions that can keep the lights on when everything else goes dark. We have a major national security threat, and that is that our grid is pretty archaic. it's technology from 80 to 100 years ago that is exposed to two major threats. We have an EMP that could happen where a nuclear warhead gets dropped in our atmosphere far above where anybody would feel any of the effects of it on the ground, but it would take out our power grid.

1:23:12Darin Olien:So let's unpack that a little bit because that feels like dystopian. A little bit tinfoil in a way, right? Yeah, but it's also something if you ask any military guy, they're all aware of it, which, you know, that Chinese balloon that was hanging over you, like, going, holy shit, that could be a very real EMP threat right there. So that's something, you know, again, I've talked to generals in the military, and that is on the forefront of sovereignty for the military. So this isn't something that there's almost an inevitability about it. So the EMP itself is this blast of... You describe it. Sure.

1:24:10So I'm actually glad you mentioned the balloon scenario because that's actually how these weapons were first tested. In 1958, we did something called Operation Hardtack where we took a balloon and we put it way up into the atmosphere. And the atmosphere is a lot thinner up at higher levels. And when you have a nuclear warhead go off at that atmosphere, it creates three major wavelengths. You have E1, E2, and E3. And I'll make this really easy for your audience to understand. But E1 wavelength happens in nanoseconds. It's where the air ties in with the gamma rays and it ionizes the air. And it creates an electromagnetic pulse.

1:24:45And that fries small electronics, communication systems. It's basically you would be sitting there on your phone and suddenly the thing would fry out. It would go black, right? Communication systems would go sideways. Even the control systems that monitor these utilities would immediately be fried. So they'd have a hard time reacting to this. The second is E2. This comes from lightning strikes. And most of our grid is actually pretty impervious to this. And most of our building code, it factors in that type of wavelength. So that's not too dangerous. But the E3 wave, this one is particularly pernicious.

1:25:16Because it happens usually 15, 20 minutes after the explosion. where the ionization actually latches on to our exposed power lines. And this isn't something that hasn't happened before. We actually had this happen in 1859. There was an event called the Carrington event that I would encourage your audience to look into. So before our big utility grid, we had telegraph systems, right, where we used to use telegrams. And those stretched from coast to coast and then all the way into the United Kingdom. In 1859, the sun created a large solar flare, and it just sent tons of E3 radiation down to Earth.

1:25:50And that actually took out our telegraph system all across the United States. It actually hurt some of the operators where they caught fire And so this is this can happen in one of two ways one is through a nuclear attack and A nuclear attack the way that most people traditionally think about it is a big mushroom cloud on the ground, right? But Sun Tzu's art of war talks about this very clearly and that is that if you're going to attack your enemy You want to keep them as intact as possible, right? You want to be able to disable their most important systems and still have all of their key infrastructure on the ground operational but the reason why this is so important is the department of defense and the department of energy had something called the emp commission that they put together to really assess the dangers of this and they estimated that about nine out of ten of americans would be dead within about a year's time if we had a serious solar flare or a coronal mass ejection like we had in 1859 or if we had another nuclear attack that was over this atmosphere like the one that we had already tested before And so this isn't some small issue.

1:26:48Our power grid is really susceptible to this. And what we focus on is we take everyday, very common commercial solar panels that you can get from anybody, like Tesla Powerwalls, the typical Q-cell panels, and for a very low cost, we're able to make those resistant against these EMPs. really yeah so we developed a proprietary switch that actually goes on your on your switches in your house like on your where you go into your breaker box and you flip the switch and once it detects radiation it actually has a little actuator robotic arm that flips the switch and isolates your system away from the rest of the grid and like we talked about earlier those e3 that radiation that builds up on the power lines it's like putting a pressure washer through those power lines anything that's connected to the power lines and those transmission lines it just gets hit with a huge surge of electricity and it blows out the electricity inside someone's home.

1:27:38But luckily, solar panels are already pretty EMP resistant on their own. It's the batteries and the rest of the systems that we're really focused on protecting. And so we said, hey, let's use the mainstream technology that has already made it through the legislative pact, that's already got the financing behind it. And we already have crews that can go out and install this. And let's supply our solar installers with a very easy way for their systems to be able to isolate from the rest of the grid. So that way, if this event were to happen, you would have a power source, you'd have a place to store that electricity, and most of your systems would stay online.

1:28:08Darin Olien:Yeah, it's one of those things where, you know, even, you know, in California, where obviously fires happen a lot more, but they didn't so much so, you know, before, but, and, and so it's hard to prepare for something that you don't have a relationship with. Mental health is physical health. And sometimes the root cause is something we'd rather not think about. Josh Mancine shares a visceral, life-changing moment from the detox journey that he went through. The discovery of a physical parasite that changed his entire understanding of his own depression and the intrusive thoughts that he was having.

1:28:51In one moment, I said, whatever that is inside of me, that is how I feel. That's what my brain feels like. I feel like a worm inside of myself. My thoughts feel wormy. I feel disgusting with myself. I feel sick, tormented. Whatever that thing was, that is part of my disease, if not all of my disease. In the moment, I thought it was all of it, right? It's not, but it's significant. And since that moment, you know, there was like, I did a year parasite cleanse after that. I released hundreds of worms, hundreds, earthworm looking things, rope worms, round worms, tape worms. I've had tape worms this long, you know, and I've had to go back every year and do and continually do a parasite cleanse.

1:29:36It's just something you have to do as a human being every year, once a year minimum, right? And depending on your state, depending on your state, even healthy people, I think would do one a year. But if you're not healthy, you should do multiple, Multiple, yeah. Because essentially what happens is, you know, you keep eating and you keep, you're not actually, people are overeating, okay? People are consuming too much, way too much food. They're also stressed. They're also not chewing their food thoroughly. They're also toxic with all these other things. They also don't really know how to love themselves or connect to the divine.

1:30:11So you end up just creating cesspools in the intestines, in the liver, toxic stored up toxins, and then the parasites start thriving again. And now with where I'm at in my journey, I know exactly when the scale tips. I know exactly because I just did a three-month overseas trip, right? But I bring ivermectin with me and I know how to, you know, I can eat almost anything and be fine. Keep it up. But I know when the scale tips. You get an itchy anus. You start getting famished. that feeling of waking up in the morning like you need food or you skip a meal and you feel like you're like desperate for food a lot of people have that and they think that's hunger that's not hunger that's parasites okay there's real hunger when you're like genuinely hungry and that has a depth to it and then there's this parasite chemical hunger which feels like you're gonna die if you don't eat it feels like you can't think unless you eat so basically you know it never ends you always want to keep bad bugs in check and terrain, you know, terrain modification that's called, where you're just supporting the terrain with all the good things.

1:31:16The bad things die away or get gently kicked out, as you said. But, you know, everyone has to understand that number one, you'll never get rid of all of them. But number two, most people are already tipped in that scale. They're overrun. They're overrun. It's affecting their thoughts. It's affecting who they think they are and how their mind operates. And that's what parasites are masters of. Look at parasites in nature. They do unbelievable things to creatures. You see the cordyceps mushroom, even. That's the wildest. They're brilliant. I mean, they're masters at manipulation, masters at hijacking.

1:31:55Darin Olien:Yeah, they're literally... For everyone, you can do a quick Google search on the takeover of cordyceps mushrooms. and it takes over and then ultimately the fungal horn grows out. They literally infesting the ant or many different creatures, but the worm, the normal cordyceps is usually the worm with the fungal root off the top. And the first exposure I had of that was in Bhutan in the wild and harvesting that. But actually, down to earth. Oh, okay. That's right. Yeah, we were harvesting that. So it's the worms then dead, but it's this thing. That's what cordyceps are. So that shows you. And the other part of it is these parasites, dude, right?

1:32:57Darin Olien:Give us a little bit of that history of how strong these parasites are. They've been here way before the human. Yes. So their sophistication and they're almost, don't they communicate mostly through, of course, the addictive chemical side of it, but the relationship with the microbiome and biophotonic kind of initial, I need what I need to support this environment that ultimately was created by you to then keep it, you know, keep it going, right? It continues to need food, right? So it's constant, to your point, understanding the difference between my genuine hunger and its hunger. That's a little tricky to...

1:33:45Yeah. As soon as you do a parasite cleanse thoroughly, it's generally easier to understand the difference. Because you have that experience. Yeah, you have that experience. And yeah, I mean, these guys are eating our minerals. they're also releasing ammonia they're peeing they're you know defecating whatever their off-gassing process is you know in in our systems which is toxic gases they are also sucking up heavy metals so you know they serve a purpose like if you removed all parasites in your body with a snap of your fingers you'd die because the toxic off-gassing of what they would release would kill you it'd literally kill you that's how that's how much parasites play a role in the microbiome, you know?

1:34:27So yeah, they're basically consuming heavy metals and in a sense that actually protects the human, but there's a massive cost there because they're also shitting and peeing and changing your biochemistry. So there is a symbiosis here.

1:34:40Darin Olien:We all dream of an adventure, but Gustavo Herman Moro lives it. This is a cinematic story of high stakes and deep loss. finding a literal treasure beneath the sea in the middle of a lightning storm just as the clock was running out. We were technically on a marine survey program. We didn't have any equipment to do any kind of excavation. You're just surveying. We're just surveying and the technologies that we use basically for finding shipwrecks in shallow waters, they're mostly, you know, the application of magnetometers and sensors. These are very extremely sensible electronics that detect the anomalies in the magnetic earth field.

1:35:39and iron has a natural property of creating that anomaly. So everything that has iron and that can be detected from far away with these tools. And shipwrecks have a lot of irons. And so we were on this mission. We had very specific information and historical information where the first of many shipwrecks should be and we were conducting the magnetometer survey over there and indeed we saw a clear, clear magnetic signal and showing that most likely there was a historical old shipwreck there because as we looked down, we were in very shallow water. It was all sand and reefy, rocky outcrops. So we couldn't see a shipwreck per se.

1:36:28The shipwreck, whatever was there, was buried. But as we were intending to make a claim, and in order to make a claim when you find an abandoned shipwreck or abandoned property, the magnetic signal, okay, is not enough. We needed to find, you know, a cultural artifact, okay, to go with it. And so we spent a lot of time, you know, diving there to see if we could find that one artifact without being able really to excavate on the side because we, like I said, we didn't have the tools. And on the last day we were there, We find our artifact and we were very, very happy because now we will be able to put that artifact on the table, you know, along with all the magnetometer data to show that indeed we have found a historical shipwreck and lay the claim on it.

1:37:20So we can start thinking about phase two because we want to go back and legally with the right permits and the right jurisdiction, whichever that one may end up being, okay, and start an excavation process which will open up this one shipwreck and two more that we found in the vicinity of it and see what's there. We have very high hopes, but I guess that will be part of a new adventure.

1:37:45Darin Olien:Can you say what the artifact was? Yes, I guess I can. And it was a coral-encrusted brick of sorts. And I know that, you know, a brick doesn't belong to the ocean. And it probably doesn't belong to a shipwreck either. But when you know a little bit about historical shipwrecks, you know that the galley of the ship was all laid out in brick because as you cook, you needed the surface that was for your oven and so on that was a fireproof. And so usually if you find bricks, that means that you are, you know, looking at the galley of an old shipwreck. And the brick was clearly a brick. For the moment, we thought it's silverware because it's also like the same shape.

1:38:33Wow. But no. And then you can tell how old it is. Well, you can. And there is something called thermal luminescence, which is a test you can do on the brick. And eventually we will probably have that test at a local, you know, university. But that is a plus minus like 67 years. So it's not going to really tell us, you know, and exactly, you know, how old this shipwreck is. And I think that right now we are probably, what we need to do is lay the claim to our fine so we can be legally secure. And there will be enough time, you know, to open it up. We obviously had a very specific target in mind when we were looking for the shipwrecks.

1:39:15But until we complete the excavation of it, we are going to know if we found exactly what we're looking for.

1:39:21Darin Olien:Yeah, so you don't know until you know. Exactly. And that makes life more interesting, doesn't it? You've heard of CBD, right? But do you really understand the system it interacts with? Danny Fontaine explains the endocannabinoid system not just as a receptor for cannabis, but as the body's master thermostat and the regulating signal system that keeps us in homeostasis. This system is the homeostasic one. It's the one that balances all the other systems. So that statement already is like, what? Yes, I know. You would think that we should be taught this thing. Right, because even having some physiology background, you're going, okay, communication system, central nervous system, everything weirdly is already reduced down to systems.

1:40:13Darin Olien:Communication system, I was taught it's the hormones, central nervous system, parasympathetic, sympathetic, blah, blah, blah. But now with that statement, it's essentially touching all of those things and potentially informing all of those things. Yes. So how the hell, how is it doing that? So it does it through a signaling, a retrograde signaling receptor system. Retrograde, what does that mean? So it's going backwards. Okay. So everything in our body is fluid in a forward-flowing motion. Everything. You know, I mean, like the torrent. Everything is forward. It has to move. It has to move. That's life.

1:40:59Yes.

1:41:00Darin Olien:Nothing's a circle. It's toroidal. It's flowing. Yeah. This is a retrograde system, meaning that it goes in reverse. And it actually signals in reverse. And the way that it's signaling is it's signaling through its receptor system. because the receptors are embedded throughout our total makeup of our body and the auric field also. It's not just the inside system, it's the outside system as well. So it's managing both all the sensory input and then taking it and putting it into a biological process and making us be able to mirror ourselves in the best way to keep us in balance. but when this system gets either overexpressed or under modulated, that's what happens to the person.

1:41:50And that's the result of it. And based on their DNA, depends on how it actually presents, but that's ultimately what happens is it's coming in, it's taking all of the information, all of the information from around us, sensory input, everything we feed ourselves, including the food. It takes all this information based on its receptors.

1:42:11Darin Olien:So it's taking that energy system, the layers of our energy system, it's taking in all of that from the Schumann resonance to the light waves to the field of feeling and sensing from another person. So what you're saying is there's a receptive organism, call it, that is very sensitive, that is on so many of the subtle bodies. Every single one of them. Every single one of them. And that is then forming the instruction for the chemical, for the biologic, for the hormones. The neurotransmitters. It's such a vast system. it's taken me 17 years to fully get it right you know like and i was actually introduced to it through working with it with people and plants you know so i learned from it from a human standpoint and understanding how it works from a human dynamic and then took it to the lab and then understood how it worked like in the very chemical processes of when we work with plants and humans and how this interacts, you know, and understanding that, oh, my gosh, it's not just this one plant that balances our total system.

1:43:38Darin Olien:Meaning cannabis. Yes. It is all things that we can attune into tone the ECS. It's called an ECS tone, okay, endocannabinoid system toning. That means that we want to attune the things around us, attune the environment, and then also, yes, the things inside of us, but the main thing is our environment. Energy is the currency of life and our mitochondria are the bank. Katherine Arnston uses a brilliant relay race analogy to explain how we lose energy as we age and how algae, specifically the superoxide dismutase found within it, acts as the fireman putting out the flames of our inflammation in our cells.

1:44:26Your body makes this antioxidant for you from the moment you're born, just like it makes melatonin and estrogen for women and testosterone for men. But after the age of 40, your body slows down the production of these, and I'll explain why in a minute. And so you're now exposed because you don't have this antioxidant that's been there protecting you.

1:44:47Darin Olien:This endogenous powerhouse we're losing more and more of. And the reason why is that historically, we have been on Earth for 2 million years. But up until a couple hundred years ago, the average age was about 30. We died somewhere around the age of 30. So biologically, we are programmed to die around 30. So Mother Nature is very intelligent. She's not going to have us making certain nutrients if we're going to die. Well, you don't need estrogen because you're not going to be making babies or never used to after the age of 40. So this one antioxidant, superoxidismutase, is one of the ones our bodies stop making after the age of 40.

1:45:29And what does it do? Well, the way your body makes energy is through this thing called the electron transport chain. And the best way I describe it to people is like it's like a relay race. And everyone's seen a relay race where you have a runner who has a baton and they pass the baton to the next runner. and then the runner runs another distance and hopefully they win the race. Well, the way that your body is making this energy, instead of a baton, it passes electrons. And instead of a runner, you have these molecules or proteins. And the proteins pass the electron to the next protein who passes it to the next protein.

1:46:02And then there's four of them. And at the end, you need oxygen so it can literally cross the finish line to create what's called ATP. So when you're younger, up until the age of 40, this works really well because a byproduct of this stuff called ATP are free radicals. And free radicals are a molecule that have an unpaired electron. So it's very unstable and very damaging.

1:46:26Darin Olien:Right. It looks for that electron and pulls it from the inner environment. Steals it. Steals it from somebody else. It's like the kid who stole your lunch at school. And that's a natural process. It's a natural process. Yeah. Absolutely. And normally you have these antioxidants that have extra electrons. To give. That neutralize the free radical. The problem is in your mitochondria where all this energy is being made have a second membrane. All of your body, all the cells in your body have what's called a lipid membrane. And the mitochondria have one too. But they have a second inner membrane.

1:47:02I can tell you where they came from later on. Which is impenetrable by most antioxidants. vitamin D, vitamin C, vitamin E, none of those can get into the inner membrane. There are a few, chlorophyll, glutathione, and this one called superoxidismutase. They can get in. So back to the story. We've got these runners passing the electrons. A byproduct is free radicals, and the most damaging free radical is called superoxide, and it's only made in the mitochondria. And what it does, it's a free radical. It will cause the mitochondria DNA to get damaged because the DNA is right where the free radicals are produced.

1:47:43The superoxide dismutase, which is an antioxidant. Dismutase means to dismantle, if you look into the Latin, whatever. So the dismutase reduces the free radical superoxide into water and oxygen. Ta-da! ah, mitochondria are saved because now it's not being damaged. It's like having a big golf umbrella, but you lose it after the age of 40.

1:48:09Darin Olien:It's a beautiful, it's, you know, when you look at how miraculous the body is in that way. It's incredible. It's like, listen, okay, so we have metabolism. We have cellular metabolism. We have mitochondria that has its roots as a bacterial evolution and the fact that it's evolved, but realizing that it has these free radicals naturally, that it's produced this superoxide dismutase to mitigate the normal free radicals. And then over time, through lifestyle, through other things, that is accelerating, meaning that the superoxide dismutase is being used up not only with aging but from the environmental pressures and all of this stuff more and more so we need to do everything we can to bring in that balance again because our world is different because our foods are different because our environment's different right so again it's kind of going back to to the the the most powerful mechanisms to support so that we can stay healthier at a cellular level because it literally all starts there.

1:49:26Darin Olien:Society often tells women that menopause is an end. But Dr. Mindy Peltz argues it's powerful beginning. She dives into the grandmother hypothesis explaining how the female brain rewires itself during the transition to move from people-pleasing into a potent era of leadership and wisdom. So I took all four of their teachings and I tried to find the through line. And here's what all four of these are saying. The brain is changing and the brain is changing for the positive. Your brain, a woman's brain is going from more of a relational people-pleasing brain that wants to make sure you're happy, everybody else is happy, and that we're getting that feedback.

1:50:13Like, you look so pretty. You're so useful. You're so this. And everything's outsourced. Our happiness, our self-worth is outsourced. And that is what we've been taught by our culture, by a patriarchal culture. But what happens during menopause is that desire to please everybody goes away. And that was Lisa Moscone's, right? This is why all of a sudden a woman's like, you make your own goddamn dinner. Like all out of nowhere. And this is part of why the relationships are breaking apart is she's like, no, I'm not doing that anymore.

1:50:46Darin Olien:Different person all of a sudden. Yeah, different person. The evolutionary lens, what it showed is that actually back, and you'll love this is right up your alley, back in the tribal hunter-gatherer days is that when women stopped menstruating, what would happen is that they would move to a place of leadership in the culture. And they actually believe that the reason we're alive right here, right now as humans, is because of the postmenopausal woman. Because the man, the strong men, went out and they went hunting, and they came back with a big animal kill like 3 % of the time, one day out of 30.

1:51:22So sitting back at the tribe was pregnant women, little children, fertile women, and so who's going to feed them? So the grandmother, who no longer has a cycle, the hypothesis says she got fitness back. She got mental cognition back. She got leadership skills back so that she could go and actually forage for food to keep the women and children alive while the men were off looking for an animal kill. Wow.

1:51:47Darin Olien:So she got stronger. She got the ability to do what she did, but also had this wisdom, had all these other traits that that were suppressed at a certain point. So that was deeply rooted. That's in our... Pun intended. Yeah, like that's in our evolutionary biology. That's like, that's our, the way I look at it is that's our birthright. Right. But that doesn't happen in our culture. So many women are so scared of aging that they're like freezing their faces. And, you know, this is right up your alley too. They're toxifying themselves. But we have to look at that not as criticism to those women. Really at the core of that is they're scared to death to become irrelevant.

1:52:28Right.

1:52:29Darin Olien:Because culturally, there isn't a place for that currently. No. Yeah. Like you think about it in our culture, and you've traveled the world. Like in our culture, you know, you have a beautiful gray beard, and most people would look at you and be like a wise man. No, I mean. Got them all fooled.

1:52:52But by the sheer look, when we see a man aging and gray, we assume wisdom. Sure. We see a woman aging and gray, and we assume you're useless. Like just that alone. But when I actually looked at the evolutionary explanation, I was like, wait a second. We have a billion women in menopause. What if we could actually get women to move into that leadership position? what would the world be like then? So that was a big piece of like, how do we get women to look at menopause as a path to leadership? How do we get women to lead in the first place? But then I took Lisa Moscone's work, who said that the brain actually goes, women's brains are more relational.

1:53:35So we bring the right and left hemisphere to every single decision that we make. The right hemisphere is our emotional way we connect, and it's our creative center. The left hemisphere is logic. So as delightful as it sounds that we use both hemispheres, what happens is it means that we are constantly checking in with other people to make sure the relationship is okay. Like, you know, when we're menstruating, we'll give you an answer, but we're also going to make sure, is that okay for you? And if you actually look at the way so many women, oh my gosh, you probably see this. So many women are like, oh, I'm so sorry.

1:54:14I'm sorry. Like because we have this relationship brain that is always thinking about other people. And that is what goes away at menopause. That relational brain drops. And women have more of what we call a lateralized, independent, individual brain where we can go into our creative and our emotional and stay there and not have to go into the logical. and we can go into the logical and stay there and not have to go into the emotional. A little more like a man brain because your guy's brain is a lot more, you go to one hemisphere and then the other hemisphere. So I looked at that and I was like, wait, that's like a get out of jail free card for women.

1:54:55Darin Olien:And it's perfect. We think we know what the opposite sex wants, but the data says otherwise. Dr. Max Butterfield reveals the surprising mismatch between what men think women find attractive versus what they actually do. And trust me, it's not just about muscles. So there's some research showing that men and women misunderstand what men and women find attractive. So in other words, men think that women find super masculine buff guys to be attractive. When you actually ask women, which is what I would recommend, that is not the case. When you ask women, what are your top hobbies among men that you find attractive?

1:55:40Guys think it's going to be like lifting. Stuff that we like. Women, number one, reading. Reading. And so that's worth paying attention to. And it goes for physical attractiveness as well. So when you ask women, what do you think men want? And there have actually been these famous studies where they show like silhouettes of women ranging from very thin to very heavy. And women will, they lean on the thin side. They say, this is what men like. But when you actually ask men, it's a little over. And it's not the same. And so that to me is the key. rather than guessing or relying on our assumptions, which are often run, is to actually ask somebody you're interested in, hey, do you like me?

1:56:27Because I like you. It's like fifth grade. You send that no, circle one, yes or no. And that works, it turns out, when your goal is to find somebody who likes you back. And that's hard.

1:56:38Darin Olien:You really have to put yourself out there. Wow. So in this situation, okay, you've asked them out to dinner. Yeah. And at the end, you go, so. How did this go? How did this go? Yeah. That's really putting yourself out there. You know, I'd like to see you again. Yeah. Could we do this again? Now, there's going to be some pressure there. So suppose you do that. She's like, sure. It's kind of hard to say no in that situation. So maybe you do get ghosted there. Yeah. Because that's where people lack the emotional skills to say, like, yeah, it's not going to work out. Right. Or maybe it's Minnesota nice.

1:57:14You wouldn't say that to somebody's face. No. But you might not show up. Or you might text them later and say, hey, you know, it was nice meeting you. Sometimes people need time to think, hey, it was nice meeting you. I'm going to go a different direction. But at least then you know. You know, I wouldn't rush it. But at the same time, being open is really, it's a way to get the answer.

1:57:34Darin Olien:Yeah. Yeah, I've had situations where I knew, like, I met someone that were amazing people. But they also almost gave me an opportunity. Yeah. They optioned it. Like, hey, this was great. And literally it was like a multiple choice. It was easy. Because we have a lot in common. So there's some business stuff that's here. Or do you see this from Adam? No, I think there's business stuff. And those people are my friends to this day. What do you find? For me personally, I've gone through situations with some of the greatest women in my life. Even my ex-wife, Eliza, we're great friends. We've had to transcend and heal a lot of stuff.

1:58:24But I have some amazing girlfriends.

1:58:27Darin Olien:And sometimes that male-female, you have a connection with someone, and it's easy to project, oh, I'm supposed to be with this person, I'm supposed to marry this person. And sometimes it takes a little bit to really go, well, what is the real maturation of this connection that I'm feeling? Sometimes I don't know. But over time, it reveals itself going, oh, this person's my friend for a lifetime, literally. Depression is often viewed as a defect. But what if it was an initiation? Musician Kyle Nicolaitis shows a profound realization from an ayahuasca ceremony where he stopped seeing his depression as a terrorist and started seeing it as a necessity or a catalyst for his spiritual awakening.

1:59:23It was two nights sitting with ayahuasca. It healed 10 years of depression overnight. It taught me that my depression was a symptom. My depression wasn't even the problem, which was mind-blowing, because I'd spent my entire life being like, I'm depressed, this is the problem. It's actually not the problem. According to the medicine, infinite wisdom, it told me the problem was I had been disconnected from the mother, and when I say that it's synonymous with God, with spirit, universal intelligence, whatever you want to call it. I had lost my connection with the divine. I forgot that I was divine.

1:59:57I forgot that every single person on the planet was divine. And I forgot where I came from, who I was, and what I was made out of. So I had that realization in two nights of medicine, and the next day I was walking, and I talk about this in the first chapter of the book, but I was on a medicine called Wachuma. and I'm in this huge ranch in Petaluma, and I'm fully on the medicine, and I start thinking, like, what got me here? Like, what led me to this, like, reconnection with God? What led me to this spiritual awakening of sorts? And I'm like, oh, depression. I was like, depression was the prerequisite suffering I needed to experience to come back to God, to come back to meditation, to come back to spirituality.

2:00:41And that blew my mind because then in that moment, everything I knew about depression was wrong. because I'm like, I asked myself, how could it be a bad thing if it led me to this bliss or this awakening or this knowing? So that was the main, one of the main messages of the book is I just want to inspire people to cultivate and create a little bit of space to question, like, what if this isn't a bad thing because you don't know where it's leading you? And just in that space, you can start to get curious because I know from my own experience, when I thought depression was a terrorist. I hated it.

2:01:17I hated myself. I was angry at it. Like I couldn't listen to any of his wisdom. But then when I started shifting to like, oh, maybe it's a friend or maybe there's some wisdom in it, then it completely shifts your relationship with it. And, you know, it's kind of the same idea as like parts work and, you know, people it's like, you know, if I, if I'm angry at my, my inner child all the time, it's going to keep us locked in a sort of like, you know, gridlock of how can I listen to what he needs? How can I tend to him if I just spend all my time hating him?

2:01:44Darin Olien:So, you know, the interesting thing, and that's beautiful what you said, if, if you've, if, if we identify depression as the source and it's not the source. Then it becomes a further blame, shame cycle, and it becomes this thing out here that is then the problem. And then it becomes a self-fulfilling cycle. And at the same time, you got support from a different perspective, obviously, the plant medicine. And just as a caveat, we can get into that later. Like, you know, I have a I don't know another way of saying it, but I'm just going to say it like this. But I have a love hate relationship with with plant medicines and stuff.

2:02:44Darin Olien:And again, it's not that it's it's the things around it. Right. So but we'll sit on that for a second. Of course. Because I always want to make people have steps, right, or things people listening today go and listen, I am not where I want to be. I might have some depression. I might have some anger. I might have some shame. Maybe it hasn't debilitated me completely. Or maybe there's people listening right now that are absolutely, you know, dealing with some heavy, heavy stuff. And they can't see beyond their hand in front of their face. And that's real, man. It feels so real. And at the same time, I don't want to even make this flippantly.

2:03:40Darin Olien:Just the idea that it's happening, just the idea of someone's listening, that they allow for a second that this may be happening for you, like you said. Yeah. You cannot think you're way out of trauma. And Dr. Amy Abagane explains exactly why. Using a profound study on learning helplessness, she illustrates why we get stuck in freeze states and why the body needs to physically move through the experience to find the exit. What I love about trauma and especially how it presents in the body is that we can go as deep as we want to into the biochemistry of it at the cellular level. But for some people who don't know that stuff, we can stay at the emotional level and the mental level because it's all really going to be the same definition.

2:04:28Which is anything that for any reason at that time overwhelmed our ability to respond. That can happen emotionally. We can be flooded with emotions that feel too confusing, too big for us to respond to in the moment. This often happens when you get unexpected news. Someone has passed away. and there's just this overwhelming feeling that can paralyze you. But then we can also look at that psychologically. But inside of the body, there is this biochemical process that's happening, and that goes down to the cellular level. So our cells are experiencing this overwhelm and inability to respond just as much as we're feeling it psychologically or emotionally.

2:05:18Wow. And when we look at the role of the nervous system in keeping us alive, we see how the nervous system has to keep track of all of the different elements that affect our capacity to respond. And when it senses, and here we go into perception, when it senses, whether it's real or not, true or not, that our capacity to respond to a demand, to a danger, to a threat is not enough. It's not going to be enough to overcome that. Then the survival strategy is to shut down. And there's an element of let me conserve my energy in order to wait it out because that's probably the better way to survive this than if I'm not able to overcome, but I still try to overcome and use up priceless energy in the process.

2:06:11So we look at this is happening at the mitochondrial level, which is in so much of where your work comes into play, because toxins and our environment, what we consume is directly going to impact our capacity, which means directly impact our threshold for what will just be a stress for us and what will be a trauma that breaks us.

2:06:35Darin Olien:So what is the response happening when something is stressful versus a trauma? Yeah. Inside of ourselves, we have this machinery that keeps everything running. And when we look at the mitochondria specifically, they are the ones that make energy. They do many other things. They also signal. They also are the major influencer for determining our capacity. because our mitochondria, depending on how many we have, depending on their efficiency, depending on how much we have built them through practice and exercise, they have a certain capacity for how much energy they can make. And when they reach their threshold, if the demand, if the danger, if the threat feels bigger than what they can adjust to, then they switch strategies.

2:07:30So when they are first confronted with what would be a stress, they're going to hunker down. In the microscope, you can actually see them hunkering down. They change shape in order to be able to make energy more efficiently and make more of it. And so they're literally turning all online. If you could see inside the body, it's like all these lights are turning on. Go, go, go. and they are all responding in order to help us respond to this danger or threat.

2:08:01Darin Olien:In an acute situation. In an acute situation. And this is going to be true whether this is an actual danger or this is a demand like a physical exercise, marathon, or some intense activity where you're needing to focus more. Those are all demands. And so we move into this higher energy state, which is what stress is. Stress, I liken it to a sprint. A sprint is something where you are going to be focused. You're going to be intense. And it's not bad. It's not good. It just, I don't know why you're sprinting, but it's a sprint. And everything in your body is responding, both at the cellular level, but at a systemic level.

2:08:41So your whole digestive system changes. Your whole immune system changes. Everything in your body changes based on the state that your nervous system is in. And in the stress state, everything changes to literally help you have the most energy possible.

2:08:57Darin Olien:For that particular situation. Everything is frequency. Aaron Bigelow explains the science of the human voice as a holographic blueprint for our health. Listen as he details how 30 seconds of your voice can unlock the secrets of your body's imbalances. That's the voice print, right? Yeah. And the way when you first told me about this, and again, I've been around this stuff, so I can receive stuff differently than someone who hasn't been. But even when I heard about it, I was like, oh, my God, what? So you've been able to take essentially 30 seconds of someone just speaking. And people say, well, it's their voice.

2:09:47Darin Olien:but it's it's actually not their voice that you're hearing it's the frequencies and fields coming through their voice and the way i could understand it then is like oh that makes sense because every fractal is a representation of the whole yeah and traditional chinese medicine has been doing that for forever like years yeah yeah tens of thousands right so you can you can i mean i i go to this master uh acupuncturist and he was working on my back never touched my back sure he was working on the ear and the feet and then popping me in the head with something so i want to set that up because that's another form of understanding the flow of of frequency and and field effect yeah uh of that chi in the body right yeah so so when you say something like 30 seconds of me just i it could literally be recording me just talking like this to you right now and we pull off 30 seconds i send it to you you run you and matthew you run it through your systems and then it actually breaks down in a report that shows and when you first did this i never said anything about what was going on with me but musculoskeletal vitamins minerals all of it again people keep in mind this is everything is frequency so sometimes people are listening this going what but again this is matured yeah even longer than the the american medical system was even set up by several hundred years yeah yeah so this has been around yeah right so so when there's no hiding in the body so my body is vibrating coherent or not coherent at all times in all ways.

2:11:58Darin Olien:Yeah. And you're using the voice as a conduit to access some vibration. Yeah, it's a carrier wave. It's a carrier wave. I like that. Yeah. And then you get this report, and you guys gave me that report the first time. I'm like going, oh, my God. It's like it's picking up past injuries, different things. And I was like, oh. And by the way, since then, I've had several friends come to you. every one of them were blown away so that it is a you know there's i always love that there's no secrets in the universe right there's no secrets like even if you're like even the fun example of someone's lying to you on some level you kind of know it whether you want to acknowledge it or not it's like everything has frequency right and so this is such a powerful use of disseminating frequency yeah right so you you now have this amp coil this electromagnetic bioresonance pulsed electromagnetic field generate like it's it's which it doesn't you don't you don't it's not you're not you're using a different field that it's not electricity per se like you're not getting electrocuted right so yeah yeah these are healthy frequency ranges that the body resonates with which it welcomes as opposed to repels exactly some gifts defy explanation my friend Charlie Goldsmith takes us back to the moment he was 18 years old and felt a strange magnetic energy in his hands for the first time.

2:13:44Darin Olien:This is a story of his first accidental healing and the realization that his reality had forever changed. So basically what happened is I was doing work experience at a health retreat and you've probably been to many of the like school camps and I'm sitting, I went to sit down for breakfast and as I went to get my knife and fork, as I went to get them, my hands forcefully pulled together. I'm just going around the microphone, but it was like here. And I was like, oh, that's weird. And I pulled my hands out in and out and I could feel this phenomena I described. And I was sitting there doing this and I'm thinking, oh no, I've lost my mind.

2:14:28Like I have lost my mind. And if you'd said, have you lost your mind, I would have said 100%. I've just lost my mind. And I was in that moment feeling really distressed. I was very young. I was only 18. I had never felt anything like this. And it was very tangible. I may as well have been holding the microphone. It's like that real. So I'm sitting there thinking, like, this is it. and this is the end of sanity. And someone sitting diagonally opposite me is like, are you okay? Because I was obviously distressed. Like, no, I'm not okay. I can feel something between my hands. It's like freaking me out.

2:15:13And nothing's there. Nothing's there. No, no one can see it, including me. I could feel it. And I turned to the person next to me and I put my hand up like this and I was like, feel this. and the lady next to me puts her hand up and like I feel like in that moment the world stopped for me I don't even know why I asked her if she could feel it I guess it was so tangible for me it felt like I didn't think about it I just asked her and so she puts her hand up and when it met mine at a distance not not touching she was oh my god what is that and and I was like fuck oh she can feel it and so that was the first you know moment where I had this perception of energy or magnetism or whatever people call it different things I don't dare name it but it was yeah I can feel it and then what happened was other people started coming up to feel this phenomena coming out of my hands and I don't remember how many before this one lady came up to feel it and when she put her hand up so everyone was putting it up to feel what was coming out of me and could everyone feel it I don't think everyone but quite a big amount of people it was a it was a majority like I don't know if anyone couldn't in those first few I actually can't remember it's it's a trauma associated with that time.

2:16:40But I think most of them could. And typically you would still get more than 50 % of people feel it. So it's quite a high number anyway. So anyway, this lady puts her hand up. And as soon as she put her hand up, I was like, oh, that's so weird. You've got this lump here, out here. And no one else had it. so straight away I was like oh I wasn't it wasn't about her feeling whatever was coming out of me it was now me feeling like oh that's so weird there's this lump and I go I don't know why but I really want to get rid of the lump so

2:17:15Darin Olien:in between your hands you would feel from her a lump in the energy this is no so that's her hand yeah in between this is acting yeah and this is me and I'm feeling it and there was a lump out here got it but no one else had that and it was very tangible so it was like the table for me like it felt like it was something that even was probably hard to push my hand into so I'm going I don't know why but I've got to get rid of this lump we end up sitting down in front of a fireplace in front of you know uh way in the camp in front of a fireplace and I'm just with my hand it was there's nothing of what I do today which is very much a lot focusing in my head, but I'm just trying to smooth this lump out.

2:18:01I have no idea why I'm doing it, what I'm doing, what it may or may not do. I just am compelled. And so I'm very present, I would say, just focus. So I get about halfway, and I just take a second to notice my surroundings, and I look at her, and she's got tears streaming down her face. And there's a crowd around watching. And I was like, oh, I'm hurting you. I'm so sorry. You should have said something because I wasn't watching her. And so in that moment, I was like, I really thought I'm somehow causing her distress. And she goes, no, no, no, please keep going. And I was like, all right, keep going.

2:18:47So I get going. And I get to the point where the lump is sort of at the same, hard to explain, but the lump was basically gone. It was sort of at the same level as the rest of what I could feel around her hand, which was sort of a smooth magnetic surrounding. And she starts bending her finger and she goes, I haven't been able to bend this finger for 10 years. I actually always told the stories three, but then I spoke to her a few years ago, like 20 years after I did it. And she was like, no, it was 10. So I was like, OK, so I'll remember this 10. and so in that moment i went right back into a very internally distressed state i didn't feel good at all like i was i i didn't know what was about to happen i didn't know that it even could happen because it was so real to me that experience and i recognize that she knew what I was doing because she had the arthritic finger.

2:19:51So she was crying because she knew that I was working on something that she was aware of, even though I wasn't. And so that moment, it was probably up amongst the most stressful moments of my life where you're just like, whoa, what? Like, that's, you know, it was intense. And I didn't have any, it wasn't a soft approach it was like i didn't know these things could happen and next thing it's happened i've been a part of it right so that was the beginning and it was a it was um you know it was obviously a pretty big moment in my life it took me a while like i and after that i did embrace it even though there was still um it was like every time i helped someone after that it would still kind of like shake my world a bit, especially as the things got more and more serious.

2:20:48As a young person, you know, where there is no support and mostly negativity for these things, there is a lot to process. Everyone thinks they'd love to do this sort of thing. But the reality of doing it in a world that is very abrasive for it, especially back then, but I don't, it hasn't,

2:21:09Darin Olien:It has changed a bit. When the medical prognosis is grim, the mind becomes the final frontier. Maya Ricora takes us to her lowest moment in a hospital bed, where a nurse's rude comments sparked a fire in her to use visualization, not just as an escape, but to heal her body and walk again. I guess no one could have ever predicted or warned me what life was really going to be like. because for the next four and a half, maybe five years of my life, I was fighting, fighting my body, fighting my mind, fighting every part of my soul every day. And I never, I find it really difficult to like explain to people what it's like, because I think we can only compare it to what we've been through, right?

2:22:04Whether it's a stomachache, a period, whatever. but every day you know I would be let's say going to the toilet 30 40 times a day and you are screaming for your life because you are like bleeding but then you can't even scream because it's like the pain just takes over your body you feel like kind of animalistic and paralyzed then you're so weak that you know your brain starts to tell you the pain's going to come again And it's just this constant torture and agony. But the physical symptoms weren't even just it. It's everything that came with it. Because with colitis, unfortunately, everything is affected from you going to the toilet, you eating, you drinking, you socializing, you traveling.

2:22:53And I think people can probably relate to the fact that, let's say you've got food poisoning or you've got a bad stomach. It is the worst thing, right? You just stay at home. Don't speak to anyone. But now like a hundred times that every single day.

2:23:08Darin Olien:And it doesn't let up. No. And it's just like, you know, I was wearing nappies and people never knew I'd have to run because I'd be having accidents. I'd be like shivering in a car that was like a three minute journey because I'm so scared and I don't trust my body. um so this disease took everything from me everything every little bit of light and joy i had in my life it was gone and of course i had to give up on things like badminton school anything like that um and then it was in hospital where basically this nurse was like to me well, Maya, if you weren't in hospital, where would you be? And I was like, what a rude question.

2:23:58I don't know why. I just found it so insensitive. And then I closed my eyes, and the first thing I wanted to do was walk again. That was it. And I just saw that. I literally, in my mind, saw step by step what it was like to walk again. So literally feeling in my body movement and sensation. and like I was watching myself like a movie literally um and then the mind is a fascinating thing because I guess it pushed me to think well Maya what if you could do this what if you could walk again what if you could go to university or college what if you could run play sport again um and I guess a very very long story short is when I left hospital I then dedicated everything everything to learning about why did my brain help me in that situation why did it give me hope why did I ask myself a different question and that's what led to a passion for the brain it led to me trying everything from meditation to yes visualization to retreats to books everything but it always came back down to the fact that visualization can rewire the brain I was like this is fascinating um so passion turned to obsession breaking autopilot requires a physical

2:25:23Darin Olien:interpretation lori woodley walks us through the cross backwards technique a simple physical exercise that demonstrates exactly what it takes to rewire our brains and stop reactive behavior in its tracks can we do it right now oh shit yeah super easy it's not a trap Okay, just cross your arms. Cross my arms. Yeah, like this is easy for this because everybody listening can hear. Yeah. All right, so how hard was that? Not hard. Right. Did you have to think about it? No. Right. I call that autopilot. We're always on autopilot. Autopilot just takes over. It's, you know, how we either snooze or don't snooze the alarm in the morning.

2:26:11It's how we make a dinner. Like we just aren't really thinking.

2:26:14Darin Olien:Yeah. It's just routine, right? Right. But nothing changes in autopilot. Right. So now I want you to cross your arms backwards. Behind me? No, no. Put your arm, cross your arms backwards, put the other one on top. Oh, okay. Okay, yeah. Now, what did that take? It took me a second to be like, whoa, wait a minute. Because the autopilot was easy because I always had a way I would do it. But then doing the other one, I had this, there was a neurological little shift. Right. A shift. And what did you have to do to make it happen? I had to think about it. Yeah. I had to step in and be conscious. Yeah.

2:26:51And you could feel that in your body.

2:26:53Darin Olien:Yeah. Yeah. So that's what we call two steps forward. In order to create something new, we have to first cross backwards. And it's uncomfortable, not impossible, not really even hard, right? Right. Some have to think about it. Yeah. But it didn't take that much time to have to think about it. Right. Right. Like it's not such a huge thing that everything else in life has to drop so you could do that. Right. But in order to be off autopilot, you have to cross backwards. and if you just play that way like as soon as you lean into the bad mood that you're used to the the you know misery mining conversation that you're stepping into like if you just like no cross backwards what do I want instead right so for me that is like I can be in a training of a hundred I just did a train 135 people and the you just open that way and the invitation is is today we're going to cross backwards and we're going to go two steps further.

2:28:02And we ask people, look, can we count on you stepping into two steps further than you want to go or that you believe you can go? Because they're different. Many of us stop short of the next thing. Like a teacher might stop short of asking a student a deep question because they don't think they can handle the response. Not because they don't care. Or, you know, a parent might not believe that their very movement-oriented kid could sit still to read a book. So they never really require or ask them to.

2:28:39Darin Olien:Right. So they've already decided based on what they're getting. Right. So if we cross backwards and we believe in ourselves for two steps, not a whole lifetime change, because I believe that once we take those two steps, one step might be enough to step right back. But you go two steps forward into it and you have enough of a beat to be like, oh, this isn't as bad as I thought. This isn't as scary as I thought it might be. Oh, that reaction from the person on the other side of me, they're actually leaned into me rather than ran away from me. So I feel like that whole silly, it's pretty simple, cross backwards thing is an opportunity for us to open the crack.

2:29:27And then we step into having a lot of fun, like in trainings or some of the ideas in the book.

2:29:32Darin Olien:When you are fighting for your life, your mindset is your greatest weapon. Chloe Tempchen shares the radical shift she made to take full responsibility for her illness. flipping the script from a victimhood to empowerment to reclaim her health. I think this is going to sound a little bit weird. And the answer is I can only tell you what I think because I don't know where that comes from really, right? But ultimately, again, this is the sort of weirder part that's been very helpful to me, is almost doing the opposite of what people say. So people typically say, you know, know, it's not your fault that this happened, don't blame me.

2:30:14You know, I went the completely other direction because when you are ill, I think the number one thing that happens is you feel powerless. Right. And so I told myself the opposite. I said that you created this, you, and I took the responsibility of having created my own illness, even though I didn't do it. It was, you know, I got it maybe from a bird or it doesn't matter. I let that in. So, and I do believe in psychosomatic illness. Now, nothing I had was psychosomatic, but I do believe in the immune system. It responds to your life, to who you are, to how you feel, to if it was a bird, why didn't the guy I was living with at the time get the same thing, right?

2:30:57So I decided I was going to take full responsibility. This was happening to me to teach me a lesson. Unfortunately, a lot had to happen for me to understand the lesson, but I looked at the entire experience that way. And so for me, it was almost a little bit of a challenge in a, I didn't see it as, oh, no, that's it. It's over. Why me? Why did this happen? I never actually once thought of it that way. I also think that's a bit of a dangerous place to be. And I always saw it as, all right, how am I going to, and this is a lot of what I talk about, creativity, but not in the form of, you know, music or painting.

2:31:37It's the creativity of how am I going to get from this to that, from A to B, which is impossible, though I don't believe it is. There is a way. I just have to figure out what that way is. So that's how my mind works. And I do see what you're saying quite a bit in people. And recently, somebody that I talked to, and I remember recounting to my mother, I was like, I don't think like they don't have there's a little bit of a giving up in this person that I can feel and how can I reignite that and the only way that I think that becomes reignited is going to sound so corny and so basic and so simple but is with hope and the reason that I put my whole life out and try to share good things you know versus bad things is because I want I basically tried to create the person that I wanted to find at that time, which was somebody thriving with illness and this disease.

2:32:33I wanted hope. And when you go online and you see death and progressive, and you don't feel that. So you have to create your own hope. And that is what my mission became to save my own life. And then to ultimately be the one person, if there was only going to be one, hopefully there are more than one, but that people could think of when a doctor was telling them, yeah, there's nothing, you're going to die. They could think, well, wait a second, one person didn't. And so the answer, even though I don't really know the answer to what you're asking, I don't know what makes that difference. But I think if you can reignite hope in someone, there's that potential.

2:33:14The hope can lead them to having a little bit more of that will, because when you feel hopeless, you don't, there's the give up in there. And then you're like, well, it's not worth the work because it's too much work. I don't want to do it. And it's understandable when I, you know, it's, it's understandable. And when I was lying, especially on ECMO, on life support, and it was the most excruciating pain I've ever experienced. I can't believe it was happening and I can't believe it was real. And I was being, I was intubated on adrenaline. So I was hallucinating at the same time and I was choking for 12 hours straight and I was strapped down and I just had a trans, the lung transplant and every part of my The pain combined with the hallucinations combined with the choking for 12 hours straight made me realize at that time I thought, yeah, I can see how people would just give up right now.

2:34:05I could absolutely see that. I get it. And that's the choice of that person. You know, that makes sense if that's what they want. I get it completely. In my case, that's a whole other story. I had to lie to myself for 12 hours straight. But I understand all of it. I understand those that wouldn't want to put in that kind of work because it's so difficult and it's so painful and it's so exhausting. Some people don't have help. I had help. I had a partner at the time and have continuously that was there. You know, so everybody's facing a different circumstance. And I really do understand all of them.

2:34:43And so while that was a long answer to just tell you that I think the magic word is the simplest one, which is hope. and just that glimmer of hope, which leads them to, wait a second, there's a chance. And if there is one, maybe it's worth putting in the work and maybe it's worth trying at least what she did, or maybe it's not over. Or, you know, so I think as far as I know, that would be my answer.

2:35:10Darin Olien:Trauma gets stored in the strangest places, including our jaw. Jurgen explains a somatic release technique that didn't just relieve his pain but mechanically shifted his body so profoundly that his wisdom teeth finally had room to grow in in his 30s so a lot of times it's you know we all clench our jaw grind our teeth most people so there's a really simple one and it's just where you go with your fingers into the mouth and top teeth on the molars onto your gums all the way back and you push back it's going to hurt but over time the more you do that obviously again slow deep breathing each exhale you push a little bit further back over time it will release here and then when it releases here the hips are opening up and then all of a sudden my body moves differently it's nothing different someone clenches a chaw eight hours at night if you make a fist eight hours at night your entire body is tight so it's the same here but it's it's so overlooked when i started doing this after four months my wisdom tooth started growing in what yeah because it was so i created so much space in my mouth that it actually was able to grow it oh my god yeah so i'm not making this up that it happened to me and i always had very tight hips and you know took me 33 years to get really tight i can't i can't expect that it's going to be open in two months you know yeah so it's not going to take 33 years practice but every day like i'm my squad was terrible my to go down in a squad is not able to now pretty much shake all the way down and it's getting better every day you know so this is very important to start with and then from human garage is a really amazing practice which is a stress reset which are two back to back of those techniques fascia maneuvers it's totally twisted and anti gravity and i purposely slow it down a lot with the breath and what it is is a total spinal and untwisting as well as a spinal decompression and we do that every morning it takes about 15 to 20 minutes depending how you breathe it makes a huge difference especially if you drive a lot sit a lot of fly it's amazing so that's what i these are two things i put people on is like start with 15 minutes in the morning and evening breathing start to do the fascia maneuvers if you You have a really tight jaw.

2:37:35Do this one as well every day. And then that might altogether occupy maybe 45 minutes out of the day. But what I've seen is, first of all, people change a lot when they do it every day. Within 30 days, the person is very different, not just on a physiological level, also mentally and emotionally, because it's not that you have a massive release when you do those kind of practices. some people do but most of the time it's like it's gradually you're peeling that onion you know every day a little bit more every day a little bit more and all of a sudden you wake up like wow i'm out of pain i feel different and this is something 45 minutes out of the day it's nothing and then what i've seen is like people want to do more and then they stack yeah it's like this habit stacking you know you do more a little bit more a little bit more i personally have now practice i mean i get up before five o 'clock and i'm i'm busy till like seven which i personally enjoy you know it's all it's like i mean you have the same thing you we do this you know there's a practice involved in that but it's also i know when i miss it i'm not the same person because i it's almost like it it's the anchor for my ship so it's not like bouncing around on the way yeah and i think

2:38:46Darin Olien:listen i think everyone should can start with that you know few minutes of breathing yeah first And like you said, don't look at you or me as a, oh, my God, I'm overwhelmed. I don't have 45 minutes. Just you didn't. All our problems stacked. So do our solutions. We stack those solutions. And that's the point. It's not the perfect pill, the magical mantra. It is a literal practice. This life is a practice. Failure can either break you or make you. Jeff Turner takes us back to the eight mile moment in high school, a rap battle where he got absolutely crushed, but instead quitting. He found the humor and the spark that launched his career.

2:39:40So at this point, remember, I was, I was, it was just poetry. That was my experience with writing and then some journaling. But I saw two crowds of people coming together and they looked like they were going to fight or something. And they were both walking, young guys. There was guys in the front. And where was this? In high school. Oh, in the school. San Jose, uh-huh. And I was a sophomore and they started walking towards each other. I was like, oh, they're going to fight or something. And then I was like, all right, look at it. And then they walked and then they got close. It was like a movie.

2:40:07And then a guy in the middle came and he was like.

2:40:13And they started rapping. And I was like, whoa, oh, they're not fighting. so they started battling and I remember the feeling of watching this I remember just that day I was like how cool you know there's I remember seeing the circle and I remember oh wow they're using poetry and rhyming and bringing people together in real life and then um and i loved the beatboxing i loved the exchange and the conversation that this that it was the cipher right and so um from there i jumped in a battle i watched for a couple i watched for like a month wow and then one day i was like all right i'm gonna go today's the day i'm jumping in one i'm gonna go battle and i had no you know you need a lot of yeah so it was your own eight mile it really was yeah and so i came in i was like all right i'm a battle i was like all right all right i'm ready i'm ready and this guy from virginia super swaggy super cool dude guys cool as hell tall and lanky and he's doing for virginia down south man just a natural and he was he was rapping and just whooping whooping people and so i jumped in i was like yo such and such something something with a fork and a spork.

2:41:40And then he came at me, and oh, man. I can't even say what he said, but damn, I remember. And he just executed it flawlessly, just super cool. Oh, man, look at this mother. And everyone laughed. I remember the laughter. And I remember going back to class. I was like, that'll never happen again. So it really was an eight-mile moment, because I remember I hadn't had a... I hadn't had a situation where I was so engaged with the world up to that point, the public. It was always like my inner story, me, my family, my brothers, my social worker, my foster parents, my story. But then now it was...

2:42:21Darin Olien:You had no other community. Yeah. And all of a sudden, I was in a circle with all this and hearing his story. And I was putting mine out there like, yeah, I have a voice too. And I remember going to class. And man, he whooped me. And that was a classic battle stuff. But overall, just the cypher, people getting together and sharing through the art of rhythm and poetry. So from that day, I started making music. I started really digging into the pen. And then I started producing. And then I produced my first album, released it on the day I graduated high school. Wow. Yeah. And then that was on the...

2:43:02Darin Olien:So two years. of just like, so not only did you just get crushed the first time, but you actually sparked something in you, this outlet opened up. And you were like, no, no, I'm not going to go away from it. I'm actually going to turn into it. Yeah. I remember that walking back to the class that I had a choice and that, you know, I always just with resilience, like you said, and also I've a sense of humor and a sense of not comparing too much. And I knew I had a choice whether to be bitter or to learn from it, even back then. And I was like, and I was super inspired, and you need to be pushed to bring the best of you out.

2:43:49And that was natural. I was glad, thank goodness, that was in me. I don't know where it came from. I kind of grew up myself and learned myself from the world. But this moment, instead of just insecurity, I was like, I laughed too when he said the line. But I knew that I was being pushed to bring better. And so for a couple years there, when I started producing, it was all just fun and joy and stuff. And then when I was 18, and let me know if I'm going on too long. No, no, no, go. These are just the forming parts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. that that romantic letter the freestyle at 16 and then at 18 when i produced excuse me i was in the middle before produced in the middle of producing that album and trying to graduate high school um and um after going through all that stuff it was it was very difficult to stay on my studies stay knowing that it was that i was worth um building up and not just skipping class and you know anyways.

2:44:53Darin Olien:We trust our doctors and dentists to keep us safe right? But what happens when the tools of the trade are the problem? Dr. Michelle Jorgensen shares her harrowing personal journey with mercury poisoning and how it led her to uncovering the toxic truth about the modern dentistry. The only thing I learned about mercury in dental school was that it was completely safe and yes silver fillings have mercury in them we were told that every dentist was, but they were completely safe. And if I told someone that it could affect their health, I would lose my license. That was it. How is that possible? That was it.

2:45:30Yep. So when I heard this, I thought, uh, that can't be true because that is completely safe. Yes. Those fillings are 50 % mercury, but they're completely safe. And he said, it just might be worth getting tested. So I got tested and that's what it was. Mercury poisoning off the charts. So then I just took a deep dive. Like what in the world? What else do I not know? First of all, in dentistry that could be affecting health.

2:45:53Darin Olien:It's a matrix moment. Yeah. And what am I living inside of here? So I just started learning obviously first about mercury and yeah, in the 1800s, barbers were doing dentistry and they were filling holes with this paste or putty they would make from mixing silver shavings with liquid mercury. And the doctor said, whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't know if that's a great idea because hat makers at the time were also using mercury. They were using it to create felt for felt hats. So they would rub liquid mercury on fur and that would create the stiffened felt that they would make all these felt hats with.

2:46:30Well, have you ever heard of mad hatters? That's where the term comes from. The hat makers were mad, were literally losing their minds. In fact, they were in their often early 20s. They would shake so bad they couldn't feed themselves anymore because of mercury poisoning. So the doctor said, I don't know that it's a great idea to put mercury in fillings because we see that it's literally killing these young men who are making hats with mercury. And unfortunately, the dollar won. And they said, well, we're making money on it. We think it's a great idea. And that's where they came from. Still used today in the United States.

2:47:05In other European countries, they've been banned. But in the United States, they are still absolutely in use. The FDA has said to not use them in children under the age of six and pregnant women. And then I say, well, why anyone then? And they're still used, often in lower demographic areas because they're inexpensive. So you get mouths full of these fillings that are 50 % mercury still today. And no one's talking about it. Right.

2:47:30Darin Olien:So they're not stable. You're gassing yourself all the time. All the time. It's going in your blood. It's going in your nervous system. It's going in your brain. It's like... And people talk about mercury in fish and in vaccines. but is anyone talking about it in fillings? It's actually the number one source of mercury in the environment is fillings because I didn't get sick because I had fillings. I got sick because I was drilling them out of people's teeth. I was a cosmetic dentist and people were saying, these are really ugly. Can you get them out of my teeth? Sure. My head's right above their head.

2:47:59As you drill on it, it creates gas and vapors and it literally filled my head. So research now shows, I won't lose my license to say this now, research now shows that those fillings do release mercury 24-7 in your mouth. Every time you chew, every time you get a hot or cold change, so you drink cold water, you eat hot soup, it's releasing mercury from those fillings. Jesus. Yeah.

2:48:20Darin Olien:It's crazy. And so what were the first steps that you took then to kind of chelate those out of your system? So first I had to quit putting them in. And that was the biggest challenge, you know, because either I lose my entire career or I figure out how to do this. So thankfully there was an organization that already had protocol. I had never heard of them either. And so they already had protocol for how to do this safely. So we started doing all kinds of protection. I had this crazy mercury, you know, mask that I wear when we do these procedures. We cover the patient head to toe. We use a giant vacuum.

2:48:53All of these things had to happen. And I always tell people, if you're going to get these fillings removed, do not do it unless you find someone who can do it like that. Because you'll just get a whole bunch more mercury in your system. So don't do it unless you're going to do it safely. So that was number one. And then I started doing chelation. And like you said, people might not know what chelation is. Mercury goes to hide. It goes, hangs out in the brain, the kidneys, all these other places. And you can't just get it out. You know, you can't just do a blood test or you're like, it's just not there.

2:49:23You have to pull it from those places and then make it available to actually detox. So I had to get all of my detox organs working. My liver had to be working. My kidneys had to be working. Everything had to be working to actually be able to get rid of it. And then I did a real slow chlorella, lots of chlorophyll, which is lots of green foods. That was my detox because anytime I tried to speed it up and do it faster, I got deathly ill. I could not go faster than that. So the earth gave me my chelators through lots of green foods, lots of chlorophyll-containing foods.

2:49:56Darin Olien:Isn't that amazing? Yep. It was already there. Right. It's right there. Nature's got the answer to some of our fumblings. Yep. Speaking truth to power comes with a price. Robin O 'Brien details the character assassination she endured when she first blew the whistle on the food industry and how the pain of that rejection stripped away her need for validation and forged her resiliency moving forward. Those who are newer to my story, because there really were. I mean, you in one of our conversations described it as a crucifixion, and it was a strong word. And at the time, I just remember feeling that so completely in my body that that's exactly how it felt.

2:50:44You know, I was speaking to this in 2006, 2007, 2008. My background is finance. I've been on a team that managed$20 billion in NASA. to mean I had the background to really do this analysis. But, you know, the groups that I was attacking just came at me in such an aggressive personal way as a blonde woman, as a mother of four, dismissed, marginalized, discredit. And I can count on one hand the friends, you know, back in 2009 when that first book came out that stood by me and the organizations, and they were not who you would think they would be. And that was probably one of the earliest lessons.

2:51:21who has the courage to stand beside you when everything is really, really hard. And that kind of the kind of character assassination that I endured and the knowing the knowing the depth of the research that I had done. I'm a dual citizen with New Zealand. The ability to reach out to organizations around the world because of that citizenship. You know, I had always as a child viewed myself as a global citizen before anything else. And I still do. And that assassination was, it is one of the most intense things I think I've ever been through. And it was, you know, the first book came out in 2009.

2:52:04And a couple weeks ago, I was at an incredible event, very private, where I was meeting the president of Iceland. And it was five of us that were meeting with her. And one was a woman who had written for the New York Times. And she looked at me and she said, everything you said was true, Robin. And I just appreciated that she had been there to bear witness to it, you know, and that thankfully I'm still here today to, you know, to continue to speak to it. But that persecution, the intensity of that persecution was, you know, it was a complete burning down of everything that you thought you knew and any type of social infrastructure or conditioning that you thought might hold you to a persecution like that.

2:53:00I think it really was, you know, that a lot of my early resiliency was born then, but it was incredibly stripping. And it was also incredibly difficult for my children. And, you know, they speak to it. And I realized, you know, in the last couple of years, there's a real PTSD that comes with experiencing something like that. I had always been sort of really much more academic and cerebral and very happy behind the computer screen, not somebody that ever wanted to be in front. and so I still tend that way and when people try to pull me forward it's um takes a lot of work on the inside to step into it but I really have gotten to a place where the knowledge is such a gift the love is such a gift that I just view it as this is a gift that I am so lucky to be able to share and offer with people that care about this or that I love um But that early persecution, you know, it felt it was incredibly intense.

2:53:58And as I've come through that, you know, I think that in the pain that was that period, again, rather than try to end run around it, I really have learned that I'm not afraid anymore of the fact that pain is a beautiful teacher. Wow.

2:54:17Darin Olien:To hear all of those voices back to back, from the depths of the ocean to the frontiers of neuroscience, from the toxicity of our clothes to the divinity in our own DNA, it really drives one thing home for me. We are not victims. We have the power. If there is a single thread connecting the science of C-15 to the spirituality of the Nazarenes or the grit of a burned survivor to the psychology of happiness, it is this. You have agency. You are not a bystander in your own biology or in your own destiny. Whether it's filtering your air, you breathe, rewiring the script of your trauma, or simply having the courage to ask a different question, the tools are right here in front of you.

2:55:14Darin Olien:We just have to be brave enough to pick them up. Thank you for being on the ride with me this year. Thank you for your curiosity, your open minds, and your willingness to look at the hard truths so that we can build a better reality together. We have some incredible things planned for the next year, conversations that will go deeper and solutions that will push the boundaries of what we think is possible. But for now, take these stories with you. Let them be the fuel for your next chapter. If you loved this episode, please share it with someone who needs to hear it today. Let's keep walking this path together.

2:55:56Darin Olien:I'm Darren O 'Lean. I love you guys. And remember, this life is a gift. Don't just live it. Live your super life.