Episode 357

27:05She, you know, as we were looking, she doesn't really notice him. She kind of taps her and says, hey, Sade. And she's like, oh, whatever. And because, you know, they had seen each other golfing. and then the girls, I mean, the night continued and the girls were talking and she said, yeah, my friends really like you. There was this one dude, though, and he said he was like crushing on me or whatever. And he said that he doesn't really open up to girls about his feelings and shit like this. So that's why I think there could actually be a motive of like jealousy or some shit like that.

27:37Mike Boudet:Josh, the Virgin was easy to talk to. He was providing a lot of insight into Sade's last movements. Insight that even her mother couldn't provide. So not only was this long-haired guy a possible person of interest, but Josh remembered even more. The only other guy that I know that could have maybe done something, but I highly doubt it, was her neighbor. Is that that real guy? Okay, now I guess you keep doing good and you're poking my mind, so I guess if there were three guys i would think of it'd be that guy from the bar if he had long hair there was an old ex about a month and a month a half ago she kind of got over him i she i think he was still on her like he called her and was still talking to the family and stuff so that could be it he's a truck driver white dude black dude hispanic dude i think he was black i mean i I think I was the first white guy that she dated because I met her family.

28:40They weren't expecting a white guy. Okay. Yeah, that's kind of like what her friends said as well. So you said it's that neighbor.

28:50Mike Boudet:But all Josh could remember Sade saying about the neighbor guy was that he convinced her to try some of his gummies. And she borrowed his phone charger. So that's all I really know about that neighbor, dude. that other ex and something you probably should be aware of is that I'd say two weeks before this her car was broken into yep and they didn't take like any of her personal stuff it was more of like a statement they just broke her windows and they took her cover wheel of her driving like the steering column yeah So if you were to look into it, I'd say it'd probably be one of those three guys.

29:38Mike Boudet:Josh had just given detectives three directions. A possible break-in involving Sade's car, a neighbor who may have made her uncomfortable, and the man she had gone out with that night. At that point, investigators couldn't rule any of them out. Every lead had to be checked. But while detectives were still sorting through those possibilities, more body parts were surfacing. Some were found along Milwaukee's lakefront. Others appeared miles away, scattered across different parts of the city. One discovery happened on the north side of Milwaukee. A passerby strolling through the park notices something in the grass in a playground area not far from where Sade's burned car had been discovered.

30:27Mike Boudet:At first, it looks like debris, some wadded-up paper bag, or maybe a discarded child's toy. Whatever it is, it shouldn't be there. The person moves closer and figures they'll just throw it away, whatever it is, in a nearby garbage can. But now they see what it is. A human foot. The skin is dark, and flaps of flesh poke up around where the ankle would be. The toenails are neon pink. Investigators are called and find additional pieces of human tissue nearby. Tissue that is much larger and looks like it was carved from, or fell away from, someone's stomach or thigh. Another grim discovery happened while a woman walked her dog on the beach in South Milwaukee.

31:17You can still see footprints all over this remote beach that's along Lake Michigan here in South Milwaukee. It's yards from my front door. Someone walking the remote beach around 7 30 this morning found a torso and an arm just yards away from Angela Buchanan's home. I'm definitely on edge now. The Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office believes the body parts belong to 19-year-old Sade Robinson. This is not something that anybody should have to go through, especially such a young girl. It just kind of makes me like scared now to I kind of want to come down here with my dog, you know, and do what we do every day.

31:54Because now it's, am I going to come down here and be the next one that's going to find more body parts?

31:59Mike Boudet:The worst fear in Sade Robinson's case was confirmed. The body parts belonged to her. What started as a missing persons investigation was now officially a homicide. While detectives chased leads across Milwaukee, Sade's family and friends, were doing something else entirely. They were searching for pieces of her. They walked the lakefront. They checked parks. They scanned the shoreline, hoping to find anything that might help bring the rest of Sade home. For Sade's mother, one thought repeated in her mind, that even after everything that was done to her, Sade had still managed to leave behind the clues investigators needed.

32:51Sade is forever, she will be forever remembered as an angel, a light worker who's touched so many souls, so many lives in the Milwaukee community. She is our hero. She is forever leaving an imprint. She walks in her own path, her own light. She solved her own case. My baby solved her own case. That's how I raise my kids. We don't give up. We are fighters.

33:25Mike Boudet:Sade's mother was right. Before Sade disappeared, she left behind a trail of clues. Texts, messages, pictures. As intrusive as social media is, these small moments shared with friends in real time would act as digital breadcrumbs. But investigators weren't relying on digital evidence alone. There was also the matter of Sade's car. Not long after she vanished, her charred vehicle was found burned in an alley near the playground where her foot was discovered. At first glance, it was obvious someone had tried to destroy it. But detectives noticed something about the inside of the car that just didn't sit right.

34:10Mike Boudet:The driver's seat. The seat in Sade's car had been set for someone much taller. This is when detectives started closing in on the man Sade went out with the night she disappeared, Maxwell Anderson. Max lived on Milwaukee's south side, and as detectives compared notes, they realized he matched the description Josh had given in his interview. Josh had mentioned a man Sade ran into days earlier, someone she turned down for a date when she went mini-golfing with friends. But the man hadn't disappeared from her life. Just days later, she agreed to go on a first date with him. Max was 23 years old. To most people who knew him, he seemed quiet, soft-spoken, the kind of person who kept mostly to himself.

35:07Mike Boudet:He worked as a bartender and owned a house where he subletted to a roommate. And we're talking about Maxwell Anderson, right? Maxwell Anderson, yeah. Okay, just clarifying that. And does he own this residence? He says that he does, but I mean, and he also told me he put like$40 ,000 down on this and bought the place, But I don't see how, if he only worked two days a week, how he could afford this place to begin with. I don't know if maybe his dad helped him out. I know his dad will sometimes get like Steven Anderson mail here. So I don't know if he helped him out buy it or something like that.

35:41He was real flexible with rent, which is why, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to stay here.

35:45Mike Boudet:To paint a picture for you, Max looked like an urban lumberjack version of Brad Pitt. If that helps. Did he have a girlfriend? Was he in a relationship with anybody that you know of? I know that he texted me about on like March 8th and said that he had just broken up with this girl named Maya and he was feeling really bad about it. Okay. I don't know if that has anything to do with anything, but he's always had girls. I wouldn't say a ladies man, but he's also always had like girl companions over and stuff like that. Yeah. When detectives interviewed his most recent ex, Maya, she painted the picture of what seemed like a normal relationship.

36:24We're probably going to ask you some personal questions. If you choose to answer, cool. If you don't want to, I totally get it. But there's a lot of pieces to this puzzle that we're trying to put together. And some of the things that you might know might really, really help us.

36:42Mike Boudet:One of those personal questions was how many times Maya had had sex with them in the span of about two months they'd been seeing each other. And of course, what was the sex like? So would you say... 12 times. 20, 50. Probably like, go with like 12. Okay. Maybe. When you guys were hooking up, was there any kind of communication, whether it's through the phone or in person, where he was like, he expressed any fantasy things that he wanted to do? No. No? He was, no, he didn't really have any weird things like that at all. He didn't express anything, quote unquote, not the average thing you would do?

37:32No. Okay. He was, no, he was like very just basic, like, and very just gentle. He never like screamed at me or like he never put his hands on me ever.

37:51Mike Boudet:This didn't seem like killer type behavior. Maya went on to explain that early in their relationship, her dog was sick and she needed to put him down. She remembered Max asking to meet the dog and said he was kind to him. In fact, he had two dogs of his own that were well cared for. Although his roommate portrayed him to be a big drinker, Maya said she didn't go for that. Did you think that alcohol and Max were an issue or no? So I mean, obviously I didn't really know him for that long, but I'm pretty sure he was a pretty frequent drinker. And I kind of go through phases of that too, depending on like who I'm hanging out with.

38:40But like, when we were seeing each other, like I talked to him on multiple occasions, like, Hey, like, I know we're having fun, but like, I really don't want to be like drinking and going out this much. Like, I like to be in the gym every day. I like to feel good and get my shit done. And he was like on board with it. He was like, yeah, I'm down to not drink. He started going to the gym. He was trying to put his life together, it seemed like, once he met me.

39:09Mike Boudet:But once he met her, his timetable didn't quite line up with hers. He seemed all in. I was talking to him, going on dates with him, and then he was moving things way too, more quickly than I wanted him to. Max was? Yeah. Okay. He was like trying to move things very, very quickly. I don't have good experiences with people moving these quickly in the past. So I kept telling him I wanted to slow down. And you say he wanted to move things quickly. Like, what do you mean? Like, what was his? Did he say anything? I mean, he introduced me to a lot of his friends right away. He wanted me to go to South Carolina and meet his mom and sister and he booked flights for us to do that.

39:54he would call me his girlfriend even though I wasn't his girlfriend.

39:59Mike Boudet:Just to be clear, you know that in 2026 you can't be boyfriend-girlfriend until the question is asked and the words are spoken. I mean, you can have sex 12 or 20 times and go on multiple dates, but that's just talking. That's nothing serious, you know? Anyway, the more questions detectives asked, the more sides of Max came to the surface. And so I did go on a date with someone else, and he did not like that. March 1st, I was working, and I got off early, and I went out to Dugout, another bar next door, with the guy that I was at Lux Golf Base with, and I was hanging out with him and his friends, and then my coworker called me, she's like, Maya, Max just showed up looking for you, and I was like, what?

40:52because he normally works Friday nights. Where was he looking for you at? He came into my bar looking for me, thinking I was still at work. Okay. I'm not sure. But he didn't text me or anything. He was, like, trying to surprise me, I guess.

41:06Mike Boudet:She was surprised, but not in a good way. She says that Max then started hanging out with her and the two guys she was with. But he was upset when one of them flirted with her. Max stormed out, and she later told him she needed space. she should be able to hang out with whoever she wants. Unfortunately, they had planned to go to the mini golf course in a few days, but now she wanted to blow him off. She said she didn't want to go with him, but she went anyway. That's when things escalated. I told him I didn't want to go with him anymore. I told him that I wasn't going to go in general. but he must have, I don't know if he just like sat there all night in the parking lot like looking for me to show up there or what.

42:02But I went there at like 7.30, 8 p.m. with, his name's Chris. We went there with Chris, we played golf. I was going to talk to a manager there because I used to work at Lux Golf Base. and I was about to swing and hit the golf ball and I hear behind me, he's like, you better not get too close to the edge, you might fall off. I thought it was maybe like an old co-worker like messing with me. I turned around and Max is there and like basically blew up that I was there with Chris, a different guy. And then he stormed off and we were on the third floor so we could like see the whole parking lot. So we were watching to see if he was gonna leave.

42:47He got in his car, he drove, but he reparked. So we're like, oh, shit, what is he gonna do? He circled Chris's car. He knew what Chris's car looked like because of when we went out that Friday before. So we circled Chris's car once, went back to his car, circled it twice, went back to his car. And he did it like four times, and we're like, what is he doing? the fourth time a bunch of police cars show up and he drives off immediately once the police cars show up.

43:19Mike Boudet:You're probably thinking that Maya and her friend called the police on Max. Well, you'd be wrong. It was the other way around. Not only did Max call the cops, but he also smashed out her friend's taillight and gave the police his license plate, telling them the guy was driving drunk. He was hoping the police would follow the friend and pull him over for the smashed taillight or even give him a DUI. Maya was Max's most recent girlfriend slash not-girlfriend. Although he was pretty devastated when she told him that he needed space and didn't know if she could get over what he did, he did not take his frustrations out on her.

44:04Mike Boudet:This was March, just one month before Sade would disappear. But Maya also remembered something else Max had said once. I know it's an uncomfortable thing to talk about. I know having sex is a weird thing to talk about, and I get it. It's fine. We're all adults in the room. It's just something that we're kind of looking into, and that's all. He was very gentle. more so than a lot of guys I've been with. He even made a comment, he's like, I think it's weird how some girls want to be choked. He's like, I really don't like doing that. Max had brought up the subject of choking during sex. Not in a threatening way, if anything.

44:54Mike Boudet:He sounded almost disgusted by it. He told her he couldn't understand why some women liked that. Maya said Max had always been gentle with her, and when their relationship fell apart, he seemed genuinely hurt by it. At the time, it didn't seem like an important detail, but detectives would remember it later, because Maya wasn't the only woman investigators spoke to. Even before Sade and Maya, there was another young woman. We're going to call her Sherry for privacy. And what Sherry would eventually say would send chills down the spines of the most seasoned detectives. I've talked to two of his ex-girlfriends, and I just keep saying the same thing.

45:41We're working a case where there's a girl who disappeared. And, um, sorry, it's pretty much just a big puzzle piece right now. I'm trying to put everything together. So your answers might be able to help us figure out what was going on. So when did you guys start dating? We started talking November of 21, dating March-ish of 22. It was like kind of on and off, and then I completely cut them off, I would say, March or April of 23. Okay. How did you guys meet? uh heartbreakers heartbreakers i worked there as a dancer okay what did he do there how did did you guys just start talking or what was the connection yeah we would just talk and i was single and he was single i was looking for somebody older kind of got their life more together so i was like oh like this could work when detectives sat down with sherry the

46:50Mike Boudet:The story she told started in a way investigators had heard before. At first, Max seemed quiet, reserved, almost shy. But that didn't last. I mean, we would just like constantly get in fights. So he's either like really, really mean and just like using anything he could, like any insecurity I had. He wasn't ever like physical with me, though. Just always putting you down? Yeah, he'd either be super, super mean or super loving. There wasn't that in between. He would call me a slut, a whore. He had this weird obsession with my ex-boyfriend. They ended up getting in a bar fight on St. Paddy's Day two years ago.

47:40And then ever since then, he was just obsessed with them. So he'd always, whenever we got in fights, It's like, oh, like, why don't you go fuck Jack? Like, so immature. That's my name. That's why it's funny.

48:00Mike Boudet:Funny, creepy, not sure which. But go ahead. Go ahead. And then with all the drinking that I was doing when I was with him, I obviously gained weight. and like, you know, I wasn't a teenager anymore and he told me he liked, I mean, like 18. Okay. So as I was like aging and then drinking, I was gaining weight and like every single day it would be like, I don't want you to eat all of that. Just watching like how much I was eating. Called me like a fat whore like every day. Told me even if I did lose the weight, I'd never be able to keep it off. So. Sherry told detectives Max could swing between extremes.

48:47Mike Boudet:Affection at one moment, cruel the next. Arguments became more frequent. And sometimes, Sherry said, Max would talk about revenge. Not just arguments. Plans. Weird plans. My best friend ended up moving in with my ex-boyfriend. Ex-boyfriend's Jack? Yes. Okay. So my best friend Lexi ended up moving in with Jack. Okay. And Max was like, Jack took your friend from you. I'm going to take, I took you, his last girl. Now I'm going to take his next girl. So he reached out to Lexi. Okay. There was one instance where he knew Jack worked on Brady Street. So he told me he was going to Brady Street to find his car.

49:35I don't know if this ever happened or not, because at this point it was like, I was trying to leave him, so I was really distancing myself, so I don't know exactly. At one point, he asked me to invite Jack over to my place and to beat myself up in the bathroom and call the police to get Jack arrested. And he said, either I do that, or he will do it himself.

50:03Mike Boudet:This was becoming a theme, similar to what Maya had told detectives. jealousy, possessiveness, and weird revenge plots. And then came the questions about their sex life. Sherry's version was slightly different from Maya's. So this was for about a year? Mm-hmm. Okay. In the year, did you guys have sex a lot? In the beginning. In the beginning? Yes. How often do you remember? Oh.

50:39Daily? Yeah. Two times a day? Two times a day when I saw him. And then when did it start dwindling down? When I started getting married. Okay. Did he ever make videos with you?

50:53Mike Boudet:Yes. Okay. How many do you think? Two. Okay. Does he have the videos or do you have the videos? Yes. Did he ever send them to you? Okay. By chance, do you have a tattoo right here? Is it a scorpion? Okay. So, just something to keep in mind. Sleep with a criminal and the cops might see your tattoos. No matter where you hide them. And speaking of which, Max did have a criminal history. Just a little. A few years earlier, he was charged with disorderly conduct and criminal damage to property after smashing the windows of a car during a domestic dispute. Police had also been called to incidents involving arguments with family members at his home.

51:44Mike Boudet:All of this pointed to emotional or impulsive disorders, but not murder. Yet their conversation with Sherry continued, giving detectives even more reason to suspect him. Next, they pulled from Max's diary. It says bondage equals rape, comma, role play. And I'm not judging, not knocking it too bad. I'm cool. It's fun. I get it. I really get it. Even if you are willing to accept that about yourself, you like to pretend you being raped because you otherwise can't feel anything. And he likes to pretend to be the rapist because that's how he'd imagine, I think he says, bed, finally get laid, or he'd finally get laid.

52:34Does that make any kind of sense to you at all?

52:38Mike Boudet:Sherry said no. It didn't make sense to her. But it's also possible she was embarrassed. So, one more time about the pretend rape comics. When was that, like, were you guys in bed together? Were you guys just, like, drinking? or like how was... No, I think it was just like a drinking... He just brought it up? Yes. And just said, I think that'd be hot? No, I think it like might have been, like it might have come up in conversation, like just like rape or like a movie or something. And he said like rape can be hot. Okay. So, but just so I get everything straight, he didn't try to like set that up with you?

53:18No. He just said rape could be hot? Right. Okay. Sherry denied participating in the rape fantasies Max mentioned, yet she did participate in another fairly common sex practice.

53:32Mike Boudet:I guess we're all adults. I believe I saw the video that you guys made. Do you recall the video? Yes. Okay. Are you tied up in the video? I think so, yes. Okay. From your recollection, what was going on? I think he was just fingering me. Okay. And then was that what the belt you described? Like you said you're, okay. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Do you know where you were at at that time? His bed. His bed. Say, where's the female detective in this picture? Just asking. Sometimes it was like a little more kinky. Okay. I guess. I wouldn't say anything super crazy, but. In the kinky times, what was it like? He had the belt on his bed frame, so he used that to tie me up.

54:32And then there were points. God, this is embarrassing. No, it's totally fine. Trust me. We've talked to everybody, and this is just adults talking. Don't be embarrassed about anything. There were points where he would try and put his whole hand in me. Okay. But that, like, usually ended up being stopped because it was painful and I'd bleed, so. Okay. Did he ever, were you guys, did he ever choke you? Well, yes. Okay. And you were fine with that? Yeah, he wasn't ever, like, crazy. It was just, like, normal. Like, I wasn't, I could not breathe or anything. Okay. But everything he was doing, you were cool with as well?

55:20Mike Boudet:Yes. Okay. Sherry was possibly so mortified at laying out all the details of her sex life with a potential killer that she almost forgot to mention something pivotal to the whole investigation. Anything that we did, like, date-wise involved drinks. So, like, going out to the bar, concert. When you guys went on dates, what kind of dates? Were they just mainly like going out getting food, drinks? Was it pretty casual like that? Did you ever fly anywhere with him? No. Okay. He did take me to a park. He wouldn't tell me what it was called because it was like his secret like private beach. So I would know if I like drove to it because there's a Mexican restaurant on the way that we always stop at.

56:11Mike Boudet:But that secret beach had a name. Warnemont Park. The same shoreline where pieces of Sade Robinson had already turned up. A place where Sherry had visited. With the very man detectives now suspected was the killer.

56:58We'll be right back.

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57:36Mike Boudet:It was April of 2024 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It started with a severed leg on the shoreline of Lake Michigan, then an arm all the way over in Illinois. And it didn't stop there. By then, investigators knew the victim was 19-year-old Sade Robinson, a college student working two jobs and building a future that ended in pieces scattered across the city and state lines. Detectives had already started reconstructing the final hours of her life, which wasn't difficult in some ways. Sade had left behind a digital trail. Her burned car, abandoned in an alley not far from where one of her severed feet would later be discovered.

58:24Mike Boudet:Surveillance cameras capturing her and her date moving between bars and restaurants. And phone data tracing her movements across the city in the hours before she disappeared. By the time investigators finished mapping that trail, one name kept appearing at its center. The man Sade Robinson had gone out with that night. Max Anderson. He was also the last person known to have seen her alive. It didn't take long before the evidence started piling up. Detectives obtained search warrants and started looking at Max's place. And before they even stepped inside, the yard looked like something had been clawing its way in and out of the ground.

59:13Mike Boudet:Max's tenant spoke with detectives about it. And do you know how long he's owned this place? I know there was one tenant before me who also moved out because she hated it here. Did she say why? I've never talked to her, but that's just what Max was telling me. He was like, oh, she was always calling the city on me because of, you know, the holes and shit that he's got out in the yard. Like he said that was going to be a shed. Like it was the big old hole. He says that was going to he was going to turn that into a shed with like a basement. And they said, like, when it gets cold in the winter, that's where I was going to keep my dogs.

59:45And I'm like, this is the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life.

59:48Mike Boudet:Dumbest or maybe sickest. Who adds a basement to the shed in their yard? and for dogs that are indoor dogs anyway well the answer is nobody and then in the top it was going to be storage for like long stuff or whatever that was his idea and then there's another hole going like back to the garage he said he was going to do an outdoor bar there and that's just weird man he had all these weird ideas that you just as a normal person you look at that and you're like That's never going to work. You know what I mean? The inside of the house was even weirder, as Max's ex-girlfriend remembered. Well, he had, like, the hidden closet.

1:00:32Okay, behind the TV you're referring to? Yes. Okay. He had that, like, marble piece that you could remove from underneath his bathroom counter. And he told me that he would store all his money there because he was just paranoid of somebody coming in. Yeah, he was just very paranoid. Okay. He had his little mushroom lab in the basement. The basement? Yeah.

1:00:57Mike Boudet:When she was questioned earlier about the so-called mushroom lab, detectives assumed she meant psychedelic mushrooms, but actually Sherry didn't know what the hell they were. Max never specified. He only told her that they could eat them, which she declined. Once inside Max's house, detectives found cutting tools, including a hacksaw, consistent with the saw marks the medical examiner found on Sade's bones. But the most disturbing discovery came from Max's phone. Investigators found pictures taken the night Sade disappeared. In one, Sade is lying face down on a couch, looking unresponsive while Max is grabbing her breast.

1:01:47Mike Boudet:During the autopsy, the medical examiner determined the same breast had been cut off. It was never found. By that point, detectives had seen and heard enough. On April 4, 2024, Milwaukee police arrested and charged Maxwell Anderson with first-degree intentional homicide, mutilating a corpse, arson, and hiding a corpse. Prosecutors told jurors he killed Sade Robinson after their first date, dismembering her body inside his home and scattering her remains across Milwaukee and along the Lake Michigan shoreline. They pointed to surveillance footage of the pair together. The digital trail left on Sade's phone, the pictures from Max's phone, and the cutting tools investigators found inside his house.

1:02:42Mike Boudet:Max's trial started on May 28, 2025, and after roughly two weeks of testimony, the jury returned verdicts of guilty on all counts. Both Max and his father made statements at his sentencing. Until this point, Max had said nothing. But now he was claiming innocence. I would like to start by saying that from the bottom of my heart, my deepest and most sincere condolences go out to Sade's family, as well as everyone else affected by this tragedy. That being said, Your Honor, I took this to trial without ever once trying to make a plea deal of any kind because I did not commit these crimes. And so I plan to appeal my convictions while I hope and pray that further investigations not only prove my innocence, but find and deliver true justice.

1:03:46Mike Boudet:Max's defense team made a similar argument throughout the trial. They told jurors the case against Max was built entirely on circumstantial evidence. That no one had witnessed a killing. No clear crime scene had been established inside Max's home, and no single piece of physical evidence directly proved he had murdered Sade Robinson. They urged the jury not to mistake suspicion for proof. When Max's father addressed the court, he spoke about loss. In an ironic twist, he referenced another young man he had once cared for deeply. It seemed like a tragedy had happened in that family long before his son was ever convicted of murder.

1:04:33On behalf of myself and my family, I'd like to say a few things. First, to Chavez's family, there are no words that I can share that will reduce your pain. You are all in my thoughts every single day. Although it is not the same, having lost a boy, I was like a son to me 10 years ago. I have some sense of what you are feeling. It took me a very long time to get past the pain that I felt for the person that contributed to his passing. I'm not asking you to forgive anybody or anything that is between you and your God.

1:05:27Mike Boudet:After making this mysterious comment, he turned his attention to his murderous son. We want you to know that we love you and support your plan for self-improvement. In this, we hope for a path where you become a positive influence for society, both while you are incarcerated and hopefully after. But there was no path forward for a cold-blooded killer like Max. We don't know much about him, even from his own father's words. But we know the facts. And we know that the jury voted quickly and unanimously. His father talked about hope, self-improvement, and the possibility that someday Max could contribute something positive to society.

1:06:22Mike Boudet:The judge and the jury didn't see it that way. I've weighed your character, and as I've indicated, I find it wanting. I've also reflected on the needs of society, and are you a good risk? And sadly, you're not. So how do we protect society from a man who clearly has had darkness in his past, who engaged in behavior that is, it's the facts that you see written in horror novels, That's what we have to determine. And you know, it isn't easy. I can tell you that when you think about, is there ever something redeemable in a person? You'd like to say at some point there is. And I can tell you that at the points in life where I've come to the conclusion that there isn't anything redeemable, you know, you do think about, I think it takes away a little piece of my soul.

1:07:18How come I couldn't find anything good? How come I can't find anything? that I can say at some point you'll be a better person.

1:07:26Mike Boudet:Sometimes people are just not redeemable, no matter how hard to try to see the good in them. There just isn't any. Maybe they started as a good person, and life's events just eroded the goodness away until there was nothing left but darkness. Or maybe they were just born with a heart of darkness. If that's even possible, who knows? I'm no philosopher. I'm no theologian. That's what makes this case so unsettling. Maxwell Anderson looked like every other guy. He wore that mask perfectly. As for Sade, she was trying to do everything right. She did everything everyone expected her to do. She did the things people are told to do to stay safe.

1:08:21Mike Boudet:She told friends where she was going. She shared her location. Her movements that night were captured again and again on security cameras across Milwaukee. Restaurants, streets, parking lots. Almost every step of that evening exists on video. All except one. The minute she walked into the house of secret compartments. There, rumors have it, they watched a movie about a serial killer who dismembers his victims. If true, was this a trigger? Or was this just foreplay for Max? Because after the movie ended, he killed her. Then he dismembered her body, burned her car, and took her to his secluded beach to leave parts of her body there.

1:09:16All right. Well, I'm going to send the deputies down there. Just hang tight. It should be not too long, okay? Thank you. All right. And what did you actually find? It looks like the back and the butt and the arm. Back arm and the rear, the bow back. Okay. Okay. All right. Expect a call from one of the deputies. I'm assuming they're probably going to give you a call so they can figure out exactly where you are, but we'll be there as soon as we can. Okay.

1:09:49Mike Boudet:He then scattered the rest of her remains across the city. To this day, she has not fully been recovered. No one knows where Sade put her head to rest. After the trial, allegations surfaced that Max told someone weeks earlier he was going to kill and dismember a woman he had recently met. That claim came from an informant tied to search warrants in the case. It was never fully tested at trial, but it raises the disturbing possibility that Sade may have been targeted from the very beginning. Some people close to Sade also believe she initially rejected Max. At some point, he seemed jealous of her friend Josh.

1:10:38Mike Boudet:It's possible the date happened only after she tried to smooth things over, something many women do when they feel pressured or uncomfortable. If that's true, it adds another tragic layer to the story. Because what may have looked like an ordinary first date may actually have been the final step in a situation that had already turned extremely dangerous. Or worse, if it can get any worse. Maybe, just maybe, Sade would have been the first of many unbeknowing women to follow in her path. All the way to Warnemont Park and all the way to Max's private beach.

1:11:55Mike Boudet:Well, we hope that'll keep you satisfied until next week. We know it won't, but, you know, boy can dream. Go check out Tails and leave us some feedback. We'll see you next week. Stay safe.

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