In short
Part 1 of a two-part series about the disappearance and murder of 13-year-old Madeline Soto in Kissimmee, Florida (Feb 26, 2024), and how investigators concluded her mother’s boyfriend, Stefan Stearns, was responsible after surveillance and digital evidence contradicted his account.
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The transcript includes family and school/counselor voices. Madeline’s best friend describes their friendship and Maddie’s “run away to the woods at 13” talk. A school counselor discusses Maddie’s anxiety/panic attacks and home stress. A teacher describes Maddie’s behavior, IEP, and “student of the week” status. Madeline’s mother (Jennifer Soto) and Stefan Stearns are interviewed by police.
Key claims
Dispatch delays occurred due to lack of available deputies. Stefan’s timeline didn’t match surveillance; Maddie appeared frozen in the passenger seat across multiple camera locations. Evidence later showed Maddie’s backpack/laptop and a white trash bag near a trash compactor, and Stefan moving her body (trunk placement). Stefan’s phone contained extensive child sexual abuse imagery (reported as ~1,700 images over years), leading detectives to treat the case as homicide.
Notable examples
Church-area parking lot video (child sitting ~10 minutes, then walking away); Stefan’s car seen at gates/compactor with Maddie visible; trunk placement at 9:41am; phone factory reset attempt; explicit abuse images with Stefan’s face/tongue and genital/mark details.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Emergency Call
1:06 to 1:52
The initial 911 call reporting a missing child and details surrounding it.
Madeline Soto's Disappearance
1:52 to 10:48
The story of 13-year-old Madeline Soto and the events leading to her disappearance.
“9-1-1, what's the location of your emergency?”
Investigation and Search Efforts
10:48 to 14:00
Details of the investigation, including the police response and community concern.
“So I was dropped off close to school this morning, but never made it.”
Theories About Maddie's Disappearance
14:00 to 17:05
Exploration of different theories about Maddie's potential choices and motivations.
“including one that seemed plausible, that Maddie may have left on her own.”
Maddie's Last Morning
17:05 to 17:50
Details of Maddie's routine on the day she went missing and her behavior.
Family Dynamics and Relationships
17:50 to 21:51
Insight into Maddie's family relationships and dynamics that might have influenced her.
“The End On the morning of February 26, 2024, she was dropped off just a short distance from the schoolyard, a walk she had made before, and one that, at the time, didn't seem unusual.”
Understanding Maddie's Mental Health
21:51 to 24:29
Discussion of Maddie's mental health issues and medication impacting her behavior.
“In fact, they had a routine for the days he took her to school that included stopping at McDonald's.”
School Life and Social Challenges
24:29 to 28:00
Examination of Maddie's life at school, friendships, and social struggles.
“In this next clip, take particular notice of how she's explaining her behavior that night.”
Maddie's Anxiety and Family Stress
28:00 to 30:00
Exploration of Maddie's anxiety, family dynamics, and school experience.
“I was shocked when the kids were telling me about the live in the woods conversation.”
The Investigation Begins
30:00 to 32:30
Investigators consider every possibility regarding Maddie's disappearance.
“A mom who had her own mental health issues, a broken family, ADHD, but none of it really pointed to a child who was about to disappear.”
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Stefan's Account and Inconsistencies
32:30 to 35:10
Stefan's conflicting statements raise questions during the investigation.
“Then at some point during that time, he says he got a flat tire.”
Unraveling the Timeline
35:10 to 37:30
Investigators uncover discrepancies in Stefan's timeline of events.
“But it may also be a really good cover for someone who's trying to hide something.”
The Shocking Revelation
37:30 to 42:00
Surveillance footage suggests a harrowing truth about Maddie's fate.
“When you came back to get your key fob, what did you do when you got here?”
Maddie's Disappearance
42:00 to 43:09
Learn about the chilling circumstances surrounding Maddie Soto's disappearance.
“Stefan was driving around for much of the morning with a corpse in the passenger seat, trying to pass her off as sleeping.”
Stefan's Story Unravels
43:09 to 46:00
Explore how Stefan's narrative falls apart under scrutiny by detectives.
“The End would have started another day in her life.”
The Search for Evidence
46:00 to 49:18
Discover the evidence that led investigators to suspect Stefan of foul play.
“So, while Stefan is telling detectives about McDonald's, a vape shop, and a forgotten key fob, oh, and a girl sleeping quietly in the front seat, the evidence is telling a very different story.”
Stefan's Anxious Behavior
49:18 to 53:14
Analyze Stefan's peculiar behavior during police questioning and its implications.
“Then, later that morning, he takes off again, this time much farther.”
Disturbing Discoveries on the Phone
53:14 to 55:43
Learn about the shocking findings on Stefan's phone that revealed his true nature.
“And at one point, he takes my phone to start playing with it.”
Confronting Reality
55:43 to 56:00
Hear Jennifer's reflections on her relationship with Stefan following the revelations.
“Now that detectives had Stephan's phone, Jennifer was forced to reconcile with her understanding of who he really was.”
Unraveling the Lies
56:00 to 56:50
Exploration of the deception surrounding Maddie's case and its impact.
“and he's told me and shown me the lies he's done to his parents.”
The Dark Questions
56:50 to 57:44
Discussion about the circumstances of Maddie's death and trust betrayal.
“Jennifer asked detectives, how the hell does that happen?”
The Horrific Uncovering
57:44 to 58:35
Revelation of the deeper horrors surrounding Maddie's situation.
“And how does this kind of sexual abuse happen for years in a home with someone you say you trusted with your life?”
Transcript
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0:12And when you guys showed me the picture of her, I believed the sexual stuff, but I didn't want to believe that he had done anything equal to her. I'm like, no, what if he did this stuff fine?
0:29Some of the stories we tell here on Sword and Scale will make you sick. They'll tug at your heartstrings They'll change your whole perspective On humanity They're the ones you can't get over The ones you can't really shake And they stay with you for a long time The story we're about to tell you Is one of them This is part one of a two-part series Let's go
1:06Thank you.
1:529-1-1, what's the location of your emergency? The call is coming out of Kissimmee, Florida, in a quiet suburban pocket near Hunter's Creek Middle School. police fire or medical police possibly I'm reporting a missing child and is she white black or Hispanic she's white okay and dirty blonde hair blue eyes okay hold on with me here okay and then how long has it been though since you guys have last seen her since this morning she was dropped off at school this morning and apparently she never showed up we called everyone we knew no one seen her. She was last seen at the church next to Hunters Creek Middle School.
2:35I think it's called Peace Church. I'm not sure if the exact address. She was dropped off that morning, just steps away from the school, but she never made it inside. By that afternoon, no one had seen her. Not her friends, not her teachers, not a single person at the school. She was dropped off, then just disappeared. Her name was Madeline Soto, and she was just 13 years old. This was her best friend. She came to school in the middle of the year in fourth grade. She was like the new kid, so everybody kind of just picked on her and stuff. She was in a different class than me. She got picked on a lot by people that nobody really liked and stuff.
3:21And then one day, I kind of went up to her and I was like, hey, what's your name? And then we got to know each other. Ever since then, we've just been best friends. As best friends, she and Maddie talked every day. Like every single day. She texts me every morning I wake up, and I always get a text from her unless she... But usually, I thought it was fishy yesterday when she didn't text me at all, because usually even if she doesn't go to school that day, she texts me like the night or the day I'll wake up early just to like text me like, hey, I'm not going to school. And she didn't yesterday, but I didn't think everything of it because I thought she slept in or something.
3:57That morning, February 26th, 2024, was supposed to be routine. A ride to school, maybe breakfast on the way. It was the kind of morning you don't think twice about until something goes horribly wrong. That morning, her mother's boyfriend, Stefan Stearns, drove her to school. Stefan, she was always on a call with him. She loved him. They were really close. They left earlier than usual. They had time to spare and talked about stopping for breakfast at McDonald's. But she changed her mind, as little kids do. She was sleepy, but she also just wanted to get to school early to hang out with her friends.
4:39Instead of waiting in the insufferable car line, she asked to be dropped off about a block away. She would walk the rest of the way to find her friends. Apparently, no matter who was taking her to school, Maddie preferred to be dropped off in the near vicinity. This was usually at the church across the street, where a lot of parents dropped off their kids to avoid the long lines. That morning, the car pulled over. Maddie got out and started walking. They're going to the pool to double check and everything, but from what we know, she wasn't there. So they should be back soon, too, because it's right next to her.
5:17That's fine. So if at least one of you remains there to meet with an officer, that's more than fine, okay? Yeah, I'll be here. I'll be here. Okay, then. All right. Thank you so much, ma 'am, and I'll go ahead and let you go. We'll be out there as quickly as we can, okay? When someone goes missing, every second matters. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how much you want a limited resource like law enforcement. If there's no cops available, there's no cops available. What do you expect after years of demonizing law enforcement? All cops are bastards, you say? Yeah, that has a negative but opposite effect.
5:54Duh. Police and medical. Hi, um, I called not that long ago reporting the missing child. I just want to know how long the cops are going to take to get here. Okay, hold on. Let me open up the call and let's see. The call is still currently pending to have the deputies respond out there, but we don't have any available deputies. We still have the call up the holding. Okay, so no one's on their way yet? Not yet, no. Does it take long for them to respond to the call? If there's a big emergency in the area and there's no units available, they put the calls on hold. But as soon as one becomes available, they respond to the next pressing call.
6:31I'll go ahead and update them with their information. All right, thank you. because this happened very recently, so we just want to get everyone here. She's been missing since 8 a.m. At the same time, her family started calling the school, reaching out to teachers to see if anyone had seen her. But no one had. Yeah, what's going on? They need police or medical. No, it's not a medical issue. We have a missing child since this morning. We already called three times, and the police didn't show up yet. Yes, ma 'am. I see it. There's a way for a deputy to respond. They haven't come here yet. I'm worried, ma 'am.
7:09I see it. They're waiting for a deputy to respond. They're waiting for a deputy to respond? Yes, ma 'am. And how long do we need to wait? It's a child missing. I understand, ma 'am, but I'm just not able to get by ETA. I don't know when they'll be there. So how long do we need to wait? This is an emergency. We have the information, but they're trying to get there as soon as possible. So this is not informed for you guys? Really? No, we're very busy in the area. Look, I understand they'll be there soon as they can, okay? They didn't just call 911 once. They had to call three times. The first call came in at around 4.43 p.m., then again at 5.16, and then another one at 7.21.
7:55It took officers almost three hours to arrive, and they didn't get there until 7.37 p.m. Deputy logs show the call sat waiting because no deputies were available. Units were tied up with other emergencies, and this one had to wait its turn. But before you blame dispatchers, understand that the people answering those calls weren't the ones heading out to search. They were taking information and waiting for someone in the field to clear. They did their jobs correctly, by the book, exactly as instructed. Maddie's mother was later told there were other missing children that day. Seems like an epidemic, right?
8:40Resources were stretched thin. In fact, nearly 1 ,000 children are reported missing in the United States every day. That works out to about one child every 90 seconds, or roughly 350 ,000 children under 18 each year. Think about that for just a sec. That's roughly the capacity of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. So yeah, an Indianapolis Motor Speedway's worth of children goes missing every year. But to Maddie's parents, family, and friends, statistics didn't really matter at the moment. This was serious and urgent. This was their own daughter. An entire day had now passed with no one seeing Maddie.
9:33Does she have a cell phone that she might keep on her person? She doesn't. She had one when she left it at home conveniently today. Okay. It was no surprise that Maddie left her phone at home. This was a common occurrence, and it wasn't just because she was forgetful. Okay, is she diagnosed with any medical mental conditions at all? I know she takes medication for ADHD and I think that I'm pretty sure that's it. At 7.37 p.m., officers pulled into the condo complex in Kissimmee, where Maddie lived with her mother, Jennifer Soto. Also in the home was Jennifer's boyfriend, Stephan Stearns, who was frequently there despite an on-and-off-again relationship.
10:16The unit itself was shared, with rooms rented out to other women. and the condo was owned by Maddie's grandfather. It was a crowded living arrangement with multiple people coming and going and limited space inside the home. By the time deputies got there that evening, both Jennifer and Stephan were there, answering questions and helping officers piece together the last known details from that morning. Officers started with the basics, documenting what Maddie was wearing and establishing a clear timeline. Hey there. Hey there. What's going on? So I was dropped off close to school this morning, but never made it.
10:56I went to school. I'm sorry. One second. Go ahead, sir. Are we looking for another kid or we have a kid? Looking for another one. Like I said, an epidemic, especially when Disney World is in your backyard. So she was supposed to be dropped off at school. Didn't make it to school. Didn't make it to school. I went to pick her up from school today, and she never came out. They announced it over the speaker, and I'm just like, maybe she walked here, because sometimes she'll walk here to this office. I came here, nothing. I went back to the school. They were closed. I got a notice, an email from the school saying she was absent, but I also messaged her teacher, and he looked at her entire attendance today and saw that she was completely not at school today either.
11:41Okay. So she never made it. Okay. What's her name? Madeline. M-A-D-E-L-I-N-E. M-A-D-E-L-I-N-E. I-N-E. Last name? Soto. S-O-T-O. S-O-T-O? Yeah. Date of birth? February 22nd, 2011. February 27th, 2000? 22nd. Oh, sorry. 22nd. 2011. 2011. Just had a 13th birthday. He said it quietly, but Stephan just pointed out that Maddie had just turned 13. In fact, just the day before, a Sunday, the family had a birthday party. Her mother Jennifer and her mother's boyfriend Stefan were not there, but her best friend was. But on Monday evening, back at the scene, officers needed to know what Maddie was wearing when she was last seen, so they talked to her mom and Stefan.
12:35Green hoodie. Green hoodie. White Crocs. White Crocs. Either blue or black pants. I think black shorts. Black shorts? Yeah. Black shorts? Mm-hmm. Okay. Black shorts. Alright, do you know she has like friends in the area? She does, but she doesn't know where they live. She doesn't know where they live, okay. I asked all of them. Okay. Is this like, does she like have any places that you guys know that she'll usually be at? Any friends' house? Any places that like she likes to hang out? Typically no. Not typically? No. Weight? 110 pounds. 710, 112. Hair color? Blonde. Blonde, like a dirty blonde.
13:22Like a dirty blonde? Okay. Eye color? Blue. Does she have any markings on her, like any scars? She has a distinctive beauty mark on her face here. On her face? On the face, like below the nose? Yeah, like right in that area there. It's very distinctive. You'd know it if you saw it. While one officer was talking to Maddie's parents, another was speaking with staff at the church, where she was dropped off that morning. Surveillance showed a child sitting in a parking lot for about 10 minutes before getting up and walking away. After that, the trail disappeared. At that point, investigators were still working through possibilities, including one that seemed plausible, that Maddie may have left on her own.
14:07It's possible that she came here and sat in the parking lot for a while. It's a blurry video, but it looks like an analyst child sitting right there, and she's hitting. The people here said that they were adamant they seen her on the property. But, like I said, it's a blurry video, and I don't see her getting into anybody's car in the video. I see her sitting on property for, give or take, 10 minutes and then locking off property. I don't know which way she went from there. The video was blurred, he said. But clearly it showed a child lingering for a bit and then walking away. Could it have been Maddie?
14:53There were signs, even messages and comments about wanting to leave. About going off on her own and living in the woods when she turned 13. Why the woods? Why 13, you may ask? Who knows? But wouldn't we all like to just go off the grid from time to time? Regardless, this half-baked plan was something she had confided about with her friend. We were walking around the bus loop, and she was like, she was talking about a gator. And then she was like, um, you know what would be, like, so cool to do? And I was like, what? She was like, if we like rent the woods, like, you know, that trail behind the scope.
15:35I was like, yeah. And she was like, it'd be so cool to like go there and just like build a little house. And I was like, the woods, like with like animals and stuff. And I was like, where are you going to get this like wooden stuff to build this house? And she was like, I don't know, I'll figure it out. And I thought she was joking and stuff because she kind of like smiled when she did it. So I thought she was joking, but I didn't take her seriously. And then when I found she was missing, that popped into my mind, and I told my dad. Her saying if she were to run away, go into the woods and find a place and stay there.
16:11If this were true, if she really had planned to leave, then where did she go? He dropped her off a couple of block away and drove away. Did she ever go to school? No, we called school. She was walking in that direction. She was rifling through her backpack. Just literally something I thought maybe she was just looking for headphones before she got her walking on. Yeah. But she was just kind of, you know, shambling over in that direction. It looked the same as any other morning. Okay. But it wasn't just like any other morning. On any other morning, Maddie would have been safe in school all day.
16:46But she wasn't. She would have made it home after school like every other day. But she didn't. Whether Maddie ran away or something far worse happened, the truth was that she wasn't just missing. She had vanished. She had just turned into a teenager, and now her family feared she would never make it. To adulthood.
17:53The End On the morning of February 26, 2024, she was dropped off just a short distance from the schoolyard, a walk she had made before, and one that, at the time, didn't seem unusual. But that morning, she never made it inside. Hours passed before anyone realized something was wrong. Her family made calls to the school, then to 911. By the time deputies arrived that evening, Maddie had already been missing for hours, and no one could say where she had gone after getting out of the car. At first, there were explanations. Maybe she left on her own. Maybe she wandered off. She had allegedly made comments about wanting to leave, about going off into the woods when she turned 13.
18:43Maddie lived with her mother, and she also spent time with her grandmother. From the time she was about six, her mother's boyfriend was also in the picture. Jennifer and Stefan were in an on-again, off-again relationship for years. For the majority of that time, they lived under the same roof. According to Jennifer and other family members, Stefan was like a dad to Maddie, and they had a great relationship. But she also had a great relationship with her biological dad and her sister, who lived miles away. If she didn't take off to live in the woods, maybe she took off on a bus or plane to see them.
19:24Her friend remembered her preoccupation with getting money for her birthday. Once I turn 13, I'm going to leave this house and never come back. Why 13? Because I think, because she would always brag, because I said that I can't wait until my birthday. And she was like, are you having a birthday party? I said no. And she was like, oh, I get a whole month of money, like$500 something. dollars on my birthday you know like that's like so much money and I was like yeah like I get money but like not like that and I don't really like having birthday parties the last birthday party I had was so much drama so then she was like oh okay she would always talk about getting money for her birthday and um I didn't give her money and I already had given her a gift I brought it to school um she kind of got mad that I didn't give her any money or anything I was like I spent money on this.
20:14I didn't physically give you any money, though. And then when we also got there, I was like, how many presents did you get? And then she was like, I barely got any money yet. Like, I'm kind of mad because, like, I want more money. I think she was waiting to turn 13. That way she could get all the money and go. She talks to her sister. Her dad is in Washington, D.C., and I think her sisters too. Her and her sister are close. Missing her biological dad and sister weren't the only reasons Maddie may have taken off without telling anyone. Her friend said she didn't always get along with her mom and she had ADHD and other challenges.
20:54Based on what I know, I think she kind of just wanted to be free and kind of just not live under, like, her... The word mom, or mom's rules, was redacted. But that's a reasonable inference. That she didn't necessarily want to live under her mom's rules. She had just turned into a teenager. Was she, like, defiant? Like, didn't like to follow the rules? Sort of, yeah. I mean, it depends if she took her meds. If she doesn't take her meds, then she's like really crazy and she doesn't think, she just does stuff. Like impulsive? Yeah. When investigators took a closer look at what actually happened that morning, Maddie's disappearance seemed less like a troubled teenager looking for escape and more like a vulnerable girl who may have been abducted.
21:47On the morning of Maddie's disappearance, Stefan drove her to school. This wasn't unusual. In fact, they had a routine for the days he took her to school that included stopping at McDonald's. But that day was different. Maddie was more lethargic and slept the whole way. She refused breakfast twice. Woke up around 7, 7.15, somewhere around there. Which is an early start for us, but we had talked about getting McDonald's breakfast beforehand, so we wanted to make good time. we did make good time we got out the door maybe 7 30 7 45 ish maybe got over to that area she was asleep in the car most of the time just snoozing until we got there we got to mcdonald's we're close to mcdonald's i said you still want it wasn't interested in mcdonald's anymore so we continued on and she wanted to be dropped off a little down the ways from the school.
22:52She's got this phase that she's been into lately where she's very particular about what car she's seen getting out of in front of the school. I get it. It's an image thing. But that was sometime probably between 820 and 840-ish, somewhere in there. It was along the stretch of the road that, on the right side, it has all the communities on it. Before you get to the overpass, you could see the overpass from where it was. So it was on that side, on that stretch of road, and that's where I dropped her off. She said she was going to go wait for her friends. She was going to go find them and hang out and wait for her friends.
23:32And I asked if that was going to be okay. She said, yeah, it's fine. Kids get dropped off early enough, as it is. It's not totally unusual for that to happen. It's just not usually that early that I drop her off. I do school runs every once in a while for her. Jennifer was happy to have Stefan in her life. He was a huge help to her. He was able to give insight to Jennifer about Maddie's ADHD because he, too, had ADHD. According to Stefan, his ADHD was severe. But Jennifer had issues of her own, including bipolar disorder, which she was medicating for. Typically, the medicine would help regulate her moods and her sleep.
24:16But at times, she'd forget to take it, or her dose needed to be adjusted. She often didn't sleep well and appreciated that Stefan and Maddie had a solid father-daughter-like relationship. And he could pick up the slack. In this next clip, take particular notice of how she's explaining her behavior that night. As if she's trying to explain away a question that hasn't been asked yet. I got home around 1030. I started getting ready for bed myself. I started eating and taking my meds because I have to take meds. When I went to take my meds, I realized, oh my God, I forgot to take my Saturday night's meds.
25:00which is why I felt so weird, so abnormal, and not myself Sunday while I was at work. Everyone at work noticed I was acting different and not being myself. Like, I couldn't smile in front of the guests. I felt this wave of depression that I hadn't felt in years. It was my bipolar symptoms coming up again, but I just, I've been medicating myself for all this time. So Sunday you took your meds. What meds, if you don't mind me asking, what meds do you take? I'm like, how does it, do they put you to sleep deep? Does it help you fall asleep? Or does it help regulate you? what kind of happens when you take the beds?
25:32So they do all of the above. They make me sleepy. They help me stay asleep. And they help me function. So I'm stable all day. They only work well if I've got a good night's sleep and if I've eaten with them the night before when I take them. Or the night I take them. The medication is called Giodoc. Generic brand is called Zipfrazidone. I took my meds, and then I told them to start getting ready for bed, to start heading upstairs and get ready because it was already almost 11 o 'clock. It's past her bedtime. She needs to go sleep. Even by her own account, when Jennifer did take her medication, it didn't just help her sleep.
26:17It knocked her out. She described feeling groggy, disoriented, and sometimes not fully aware of what had happened the night before. Sleep was very important to Jennifer in general, so the next morning she remembered Stefan coming into a room to get the dog and take him for a walk before he took Maddie to school because she needed to sleep in and didn't want to take her. Stefan confirmed that he took the dog for a walk and then he said he and Maddie had an early start. Other than Maddie being excessively sleepy and not wanting McDonald's, this was a typical trip to school. Then she just dropped off the radar.
27:00Dropping off the radar wouldn't be as easy for Maddie as it would for other students. Her teachers were paying attention. She had an IEP, Individualized Education Program, or Special Ed, as it used to be known. She has been in my class all year around. She's always very sweet and she struggles a bit. I mean, all my kids, kids, kids, kids, so they're the students who are struggling. She was on my door decorating team. She was actually chosen to be my student of the week from two weeks ago for helping us win our door decorating competition with her friends. She had been reading a book a couple months ago and it had kissing in it.
27:40And it was a graphic novel and she was like scandalized that there was a kissing scene. Seventh grade was the year sex education was introduced in this school system, so it wasn't surprising the kids would make a big deal about a graphic novel. But she also remembered something Maddie's friends told her after Maddie went missing. I was shocked when the kids were telling me about the live in the woods conversation. I was shocked to hear something like that. She was very excited about her birthday. She had just been made student of the week. She was quiet, she struggled, and she was happy about her birthday.
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28:18These were descriptions officers heard over and over. But they also heard that Maddie had a lot of anxiety, not just typical worries, but panic attacks. This is the school counselor. When she has come to me, it's often been those feelings of panic. She's come to me like in the middle of class or during lunchtime just feeling really panicked, kind of heavy breathing, feeling really overwhelmed. And when we've had our conversations about what's going on, what's making you feel this way, I've gotten responses saying, well, it's my anxiety. Sometimes I don't know. I'm just really overstimulated with all the noise in the cafeteria.
29:02But she also talked about things being stressful at home. Her mother was usually the focal point. When I pressed about that, it seemed to be things along the lines of, well, she gets upset that I'm forgetful or that I don't clean my room the way she wants me to. And we talked about what that does to affect her. And she says yelling, that makes me get overstimulated. And then I can't respond to her in a way that she wants me to. So we discussed strategies for kind of calming herself down. No one at school was raising any real red flags. A lot of this seemed pretty normal for a seventh grade girl with hormones and ADHD.
29:43She also has an IEP. Oh, okay. So do you think maybe… No, I always thought that it was partly because she struggles with learning. So I always thought young kids that struggle with learning also are a little bit withdrawn and have a hard time focusing on IEP. So yeah, there were struggles. A mom who had her own mental health issues, a broken family, ADHD, but none of it really pointed to a child who was about to disappear. But investigators had to consider every possibility, whether she left on her own, met someone, or was picked up along the way. None of these explanations held up against the evidence.
30:23There was no footage of Maddie getting out of a car, no camera capturing the moment she was dropped off. The only video investigators could locate came from the area near the church, showing a figure believed to be Maddie sitting briefly before getting up and walking away. After that, the trail stops. There were no more sightings, no confirmed movement, and no indication she'd made it any farther towards the school. There is no evidence that she ever met anyone, no sign that she left the area, and nothing to suggest she went anywhere at all. The timeline doesn't extend. It just comes to a dead end.
31:07The last person to see Maddie was Stefan, so detectives had no choice but to dig deeper into his version of what happened. I said, okay, let her out, have a good day, love you, thanks, love you too. And I turned around and was driving away and was watching her in my review mirror to make sure that she was going where she was supposed to go. She was moving in that direction, but she was rummaging around in her backpack or something. What I assumed was probably headphones or something like that. But I found out later that she forgot her phone here, so she may have been rummaging for her phone. But she was still kind of making her way towards that direction, so it looked okay.
31:48It looked like any other day, and I just continued on. After dropping Maddie off, Stefan tells investigators he left the area and went to a nearby vape shop, but it wasn't opened yet. So, he says he returned home briefly. Jennifer was just getting up because she had slept in. They hung out for a bit and then he went back to the vape shop once it opened. From there, his account becomes harder to follow. He describes driving along Highway 192, stopping at multiple places, including a comic shop and a Target. So yeah, that's what an adult male is doing on a typical weekday, shopping for comic books and weed, maybe stopping by Target.
32:30We are so cooked as a society. Then at some point during that time, he says he got a flat tire. He pulled over and changed it using a spare. He explained apologetically that the flat tire caused him to fall behind, so he missed the opportunity to pick Maddie up from school with Jennifer, as they had planned. On its own, none of that stood out as unusual. Running errands, losing track of time, even getting a flat tire. These are the kind of things that happen to everyone every day. But it created a stretch of time that wasn't clearly accounted for. A window where his movements relied almost completely on his own recollection.
33:14And his recollection wasn't great, because remember, he has ADHD also. So far, no footage had confirmed where he was during that period. No independent witnesses placed him at any of those stops. As cooperative as Stefan was, he gave a series of locations, times, and explanations that became harder to pin down the more they tried. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. I apologize for that. I'm trying to help you out the best that I can, but I just... Right, so like, if you drop her off around 8.40, let's say, give or take 10 minutes, you make it to the shop around 9, the smoke shop, and you sit there and wait for a couple minutes for it to open, you said you waited for maybe 5 or 10 minutes, right?
34:10Does it make sense that you're still there at 10 o 'clock? I was there at 10 o 'clock. Okay, so what did you do before that? I dropped her off, and I made my way over. Not a direct route, but I made my way over there. Did you stop anywhere on your way to the smoke shop? I don't think so. Do you have problems with your memory that you can't recall what you did? Yes, I'm extremely ADHD. I'm sorry. So, just details start to get fuzzy after a while. Even the times I'm giving you are my best guesstimates here. I didn't have my phone with me at the time, so I wasn't aware of exactly what time. There's no time on your car?
34:57It was transpiring. There probably is, but it's not my car. It's my parents' car. ADHD. No phone. Unfamiliar car. I mean, ADHD is a real thing, don't get me wrong. and it does affect memory and the ability to recall details or keep track of time, all of those things. But it may also be a really good cover for someone who's trying to hide something. And that's when the investigation started to shift away from what Stefan said and towards what could actually be verified. He gave the investigators every little detail, but he couldn't account for big gaps of time. And while Jennifer corroborated his version of events, she was also unable to explain gaps of time, probably because she was asleep or at the doctor's office, maybe getting medicines readjusted.
35:52So, investigators turned to the one thing that doesn't rely on memory or even coherence, his phone. His phone showed him going home, leaving again, and doubling back in a pattern that doesn't match the simple errands he described. What should have been a simple morning became a series of trips and changes in direction he couldn't really explain. Jennifer corroborated Stefan's morning. I'm pretty sure he called me around 1018. Uh-huh, what did he call you for? To let me know that… We didn't go to McDonald's as planned. He had asked her multiple times if she wanted to stop at McDonald's because that was the plan the night before.
36:32That they were going to wake up early. He was going to take her to McDonald's, do like a special McDonald's breakfast and then drop her off at school early because she wanted to get there a little early. But on his way to school, she was very sleepy and wanted to sleep in the car. And she said she did not want to do McDonald's. She just wanted to be dropped off. Also to let me know that he left his phone at home because I had called him multiple times and he had picked up. He had left his phone at home by accident. He had went to the vape shop, but they didn't open on time. So he had waited for quite a while in front of the vape shop.
37:06They didn't open, so he left and came back and we hung out a little bit. Then I think he left again to the vape shop to go by with him. Okay. Detectives already knew something they weren't telling Jennifer. Something they had already discussed with Stephan. His car was caught on camera with a passenger in it for longer than he admitted. including turning around en route to circle back to the apartment because he forgot a key fob. When you came back to get your key fob, what did you do when you got here? Ran inside, got the key fob, ran back out again. Okay, where did you park? Right up here, I think.
37:54Okay, how long would you say you were inside your apartment for? literally long enough to run in grab the fob and come back out so okay and then what did you do what did you do when you came back up uh got back in the car and went back on went back on a morning mission okay the camera has you in the complex for 12 minutes does that seem about right yeah coming into the complex driving around parking Getting the fog, coming back out. Sounds about right. Okay. And then you leave, what time would you say you dropped her off at the school? Or not at the school, but in the area? My estimate was sometime between 8.20 and 8.40.
38:45Okay, the camera has you leaving the complex at 8.31. 8.31, okay. So it must have been closer to 8.40 then. Around about, I think. okay so like let's say you drop her off at 8 40. we don't see your car coming back south until 10 o 'clock in the morning so what are you doing between 8 40 and 10 o 'clock um cruising around a little bit okay but i asked you earlier you know like what you were doing and you said you were there for like five or ten minutes and then you came back home yeah i went to the smoke shop like I said.
39:23But I was probably, I may have been reandering around the area, but I made my way home. Okay, but I'm asking you earlier, right? And even like the first time we talked to you, you're not telling us that you're like, you know, just cruising the area, like you're coming home. So I need to be able to explain to my supervisors why there's such a time gap. Stephan tried to make the return to the apartment sound routine. He forgot a key fob, he said. So he doubled back, ran inside, and came right back out. But investigators were already seeing cracks in that story. The stop took longer than he claimed.
40:09The timeline didn't hold. And while he was back at the complex, surveillance caught him doing some things. things that made the forgot my fob explanation seem maybe well like a cover did she go inside with you no she was in the car still she was asleep where in the car passenger seat the front seat correct okay did she at any point go in the back of the vehicle like in the back seat no so she was in the front the whole time awake or asleep she was asleep okay she was confident How was she positioned in the front seat? Leaned back in the seat. It was kind of conked out and happened. Where was her head in relation to the seat?
40:59Against the seat, I think. Against it. Was the seat leaning back? The seat was leaning back. She leaned the seat back so that she could recline. Those questions seem kind of like who cares questions, right? This all took place before he dropped her off at school, according to Stephan. They had been up early. Maddie was tired. She slept on the way. She didn't want McDonald's. They were making good time, and he realized he had forgotten the key fob, so he just drove right back to the complex. She was still asleep in the passenger seat. The problem is, well, the problem for Stephan, was that detectives weren't just looking at the one stop back at the complex.
41:43The more they reviewed the surveillance footage, the more they realized the same car Stefan was driving kept appearing. Different locations, different times. But every time, the passenger looked exactly the same. Her position never changed. She wasn't sleeping. She was already dead. Stefan was driving around for much of the morning with a corpse in the passenger seat, trying to pass her off as sleeping. Maddie never made it to school that day because she never got out of the car.
43:09The End would have started another day in her life. School, friends, homework. Instead, she disappeared and never made it to school. What started as a missing child case was now falling apart, right in front of her mother's boyfriend, Stephan Stearns, who was the last person to see her. Stephan said it was a normal morning. A school drop-off, a few errands, a stop at a vape shop. But the more detectives checked his story, the less it held. The timeline shifted. The details changed. Surveillance exposed gaps he just couldn't explain. And whatever hope was left started fading fast. This was no longer a search for a missing girl.
43:54It was a search for a missing corpse. Detectives had to break the news to Jennifer, so they showed her a picture of the Lincoln in the driveway at about 7.30.
44:18Jennifer takes the picture in her hand, scrunches her brow and looks closer at her daughter. It's an odd way for her to be laying down sleeping. Right now, we are probably going to start working this case as a homicide. We believe he possibly has done something to Maddie, and we want to know where he would possibly go. Surveillance picks up his silver Lincoln again and again that morning. At 7.35, it's at the trash compactor. Stefan gets out and throws a white trash bag inside. Maddie is still visible in the front passenger seat, her head tilted to the left, mouth hanging open, seat belted in.
45:15At 8.19, the car is seen at the front gate. At 8.31, it leaves through the back gate. And in every one of those videos, Maddie is still in the same position. A sleeping 13-year-old doesn't usually remain frozen in the same posture across multiple stops, multiple gates, multiple movements through a complex. But a dead body does. And then the cameras at the compactor made the morning even darker. Near the tread from a tire matching Stefan's vehicle, they recover a white trash bag containing Maddie's backpack, a white croc, and her school-issued laptop. So, while Stefan is telling detectives about McDonald's, a vape shop, and a forgotten key fob, oh, and a girl sleeping quietly in the front seat, the evidence is telling a very different story.
46:14The car didn't just stay in the Kissimmee area. Investigators later traced Stephan's vehicle out towards St. Cloud, about 30 minutes away. License plate readers and traffic cameras followed the Lincoln to Hickory Tree Road. And by the time the car was seen coming back, it had a spare tire on it. And this time, Stephan wasn't lying. At some point that morning, he really did have a flat tire. Someone saw him pulled over on the side of the road. Coming home from 192 on Hickory Tree, I observed that great vehicle, Lincoln is it? Okay. With a black rear tire. He was on the side of the road. Okay. Stooping down in the back, looking at the tire, which I found odd.
47:06Okay. So normally, I just blew it off. That was around 1230. The guy didn't see Maddie in the passenger seat because Stefan had already moved her, possibly to her final location by then. It's plausible he got a flat tire while off-roading, and off-loading, the body. Just three hours earlier, surveillance footage from a parking garage near the vape shop caught him in the act of moving the body. Stefan backs his vehicle into a parking space by the stairs. He exits his vehicle and walks towards the rear. Then he opens the trunk. At 9.41am, Stefan is seen placing Maddie, who was wearing a green sweatshirt, into the trunk of his vehicle.
47:53He then exits the parking garage and heads onto 192. Detectives don't tell him about their mounting evidence. They're still feeling him out. When he's questioned on details about his timeline, his answers are very polite. And he's sticking to his story, his vague story. I'm so sorry. That's okay. I know the details are important and just the way our brains work with ADHD is those things can get fuzzy. Are you on any medication? I'm supposed to be. I have not been medicated lately. Okay. So I'm just not a morning person. I'm very time blind on the best of days and forgetful. So I understand that none of that is helpful in this case.
48:42I'm pretty sorry. We're going to have the apartment secured for the rest of the night. Okay? So the investigation is not going to happen tonight? It is. He asks whether the investigation will still happen that night. It would. It would. But that didn't stop Stefan from continuing his movements when the interviews ended. Because before sunrise, while the search was still very much alive, he takes Jennifer's car and leaves the hotel, heading out towards St. Cloud around 3 a.m. Then, later that morning, he takes off again, this time much farther. Records show Jennifer's Nissan traveling to North Port.
49:27Later, Jennifer would say he came back with a Wawa cup and claimed he'd just gone to 192. He never told her where he'd actually been, which is important because Northport isn't around the corner. It's two hours away. At one point, we moved close to where his parents live right now. They live in Northport, Florida, Sarasota County. You caught that, right? The one place these killers always seem to head towards after killing is back to mommy and daddy. And in this case, that was Northport, Florida, where Stephan's parents lived. Obviously, you live down in Northport? Yes, sir. Okay. I'm just going to shoot you today.
50:12I respect you and everything else. I appreciate it. There's a storage unit down there. Yeah, I have a storage unit. You have a storage unit. Is that your son's storage unit? No, it's mine. That's your storage unit. Yeah, okay. Does he have access to it? No, I have the keys. Were you aware that your son come visit you on Monday morning? This Monday? Yeah. No, he left Sunday. Okay. Stefan's dad sounds confused because he is. You see, Stefan had been living with his parents for a few months after another breakup with Jennifer. But they were still on good terms. And because of his strong bond with Maddie, Jen invited him back for Maddie's birthday.
50:55So his dad is talking about his son leaving on Sunday to head to Kissimmee for Maddie's birthday. He doesn't know yet that just three days later, Stefan would quietly make that same drive back without telling anyone. It would become apparent later in the investigation that Stefan had traveled to his parents' place in Northport because he had a hard drive there containing incriminating material, let's say. And as if the Northport trip wasn't incriminating enough, what they found on his phone was worse yet. But he had tried to erase it. When I saw him at the house, everything was normal. We were chatting, we were talking, he was acting normal.
51:42He was sitting in my computer chair just messing around on his phone. While we were hanging out, he mentioned something along the lines of, Oh man, I've been avoiding this phone update for a really long time. I should probably update it now. And I said, do it. Don't avoid it. Just get it over with. And he updates his phone. And then tells me, oh my god, I don't know what button I just pressed, but I just factory reset my entire phone. And I said, how the hell does that happen? Well, that happens quite simply when you have something to hide. You deliberately go to your phone settings, find the reset tab, and tap it to erase all the content.
52:25And that's what Stefan thought he did. But a computer scientist, he was not. So earlier that day, I think Detective Pop came, or somebody came, and asked Stefan for his cell phone if he would willingly give it up so that they can look at it or if they would need a warrant and I remember him saying should I have asked a warrant should I have and I'm like no if you've got nothing to hide give him your fucking phone and then when you guys came in the evening and you guys told us to wait outside and we waited in my car he started getting very anxious and very panicky going I want my phone back I want my phone back and I said listen at this point it's their phone it's theirs for fucking ever I don't give a shit we will buy you a new phone it doesn't matter anymore whatever they need they need like let them look at it and he's like I just want my phone back and I'm just like do you are you trying to make yourself more suspicious because like you're if you were to go demand your phone back right now that would look suspicious as fuck like what are you doing um I'm thinking he's just getting impatient because he's bored and wants to play on his phone.
53:37And at one point, he takes my phone to start playing with it. I give it up. And I said, here, play on my phone. Have fun. Just two days after Maddie went missing, detectives had Stefan's phone and all the evidence on it, which was quite a bit. They found graphic pictures and videos of him sexually abusing 13-year-old Maddie Soto. In one picture, Stefan's face is visible and his tongue is on Maddie's nipple. It was explicit, undeniable, and extremely disturbing. And it had been saved among an album of child sexual abuse material. They didn't just find one picture or one scene. They found hundreds.
54:27Basically, a typical Redditor's stash. These pictures pointed to repetition, duration, a system of abuse. Later reporting would describe roughly 1 ,700 images linked to Stephan's accounts, stretching back at least two years. So the phone did not just prove what Stephan had done. It showed that he had been doing it for a very long time. And the investigators matched the abuser in those files to Steffen's own body parts, if you catch my drift. Reports about the pictures describe a bright pinkish area below the head of the penis and a black mark or freckle on it, also visible in some pictures. Yuck.
55:24They also collected penile swabs from him, which I'm sure was quite humiliating. By then, detectives weren't just looking at abuse images. They were connecting the penis in those images directly to Stephan Stern's. Imagine that being your job. Now that detectives had Stephan's phone, Jennifer was forced to reconcile with her understanding of who he really was. Like, I look back at shit now and I'm just like, he was fucking lying. He was fucking faking. What else has he been lying to me about? I know he's like a master liar manipulator because he's done it to his parents and he's told me and shown me the lies he's done to his parents.
56:09But I don't know why I never thought not me. That would be because Jennifer forgot this stark truth. that people will always show you who they really are if you pay close enough attention. I told him to call his dad because I had a feeling y 'all knew something and it was going to come down on him. And I'm just like, they're focusing on the wrong person. They have the wrong person. In my head, I'm convinced you guys are just... that you have the wrong person. He was definitely a wrong person. just not the wrong person for these crimes. But what happened to Maddie was not an accident at all. Jennifer asked detectives, how the hell does that happen?
56:59Well, the detectives wanted that question answered also, and they wanted to know if Jennifer was complicit. I don't know what you want me to say or do or just want my daughter back. And this is exactly what I was just talking about. We are literally having a conversation right now about Maddie possibly being dead. Yeah. And you have yet to shed a tear. By now, detectives know Maddie is dead. They know Stefan is responsible. But the questions that are about to get a lot darker are these. Why did he kill her? And how does this kind of sexual abuse happen for years in a home with someone you say you trusted with your life?
57:55Jennifer may have trusted Stefan with her life, but Maddie was the one who paid for it. And what they're about to uncover is far worse than how she died.
58:33Thank you.
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