News tells you what happened. Drawing shows you how it felt | George Butler

0:03You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hu. Every day, all day, images of war flash across our screens. Blown open buildings, scattered lives, rubble where a home used to be. It's constant, and if I'm honest, there are nights it leaves me feeling numb or helpless or mainly just wanting to look away. Maybe you know the feeling. For reportage artist and TED Fellow George Butler, it's different. He spent two decades in places like Ukraine, Syria, and Gaza, doing something that runs counter to that rush of images. He sits down, and slowly, he draws.

0:44The news can tell us what happened, but the drawing can show us how it felt. You may remember George from a conversation we shared last year with TED Fellow's program director, Lily James Olds. He talked about his medium, ink on paper in the middle of conflict zones for magazines and newspapers, has allowed him to go deeper than the headlines. This time, he brought that work to the TED stage. In his talk, George shares the stories of the people he's met in places under bombardment. And he makes a quiet case for a different way of paying attention, to witness these stories rather than just consume them, to slow down and to hold on to our connection to one another.

1:23I believe the news is failing us. It promotes destruction before humanity. Drawing, he says, is almost an excuse. What it really buys him is time. Time to sit with one person long enough to hear their story. And the people you'll hear about in this talk, found in the rubble, in hospital beds, at the very edges of catastrophe, are impossible to forget. The talk is coming up right after a short break.

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4:12And now, our TED Talk of the day. A couple of years ago, I stood on the streets in eastern Ukraine, in Kramatorsk, in the aftermath of a Russian cruise missile strike on a residential apartment building. I remember the front of the building was blown off. You could see a living room and a kitchen inside, belongings burnt, scattered on the floor, mixed in with the rubble. There were some weapons inspectors on one side, an excavator in the middle. And of course, in amongst it all, the journalists were there trying to interview those involved. One lady in particular had soot on her face. It was very moving to watch.

4:55she gathered her belongings from the rubble and she put them on the floor and she sat on them for safekeeping. These are the sorts of scenes that are broadcast around the world every night. I found them to be so moving and let me tell you, the destruction is truly captivating. But around the back of the same building, I found a library of books had been blasted into a rose garden and in amongst the thorns and the roses stood Petro, age 70. On his morning walk, he couldn't go any further. He felt it was his duty to stop, pick up the books, stack them in neat little piles. And as I drew him, he challenged me and he said, I was brought up that if I see a loaf of bread on the floor, I'll pick it up.

5:46It's the same with books. They are food for the soul. I've drawn mass graves in Ukraine, a Caesarian in Afghanistan, and the war in Syria. And over two decades, I've had one realization over and over that there are many truths to war. But on that morning in Kramatorsk in Ukraine, it was so stark. It was Petro that captured my heart, this gentle soul standing amidst atrocity. This is what I do. I draw for magazines and newspapers in ink, on location, and over weeks and weeks in Ukraine, it became my mission to be slow, to delve deeper. And I found that the news can tell us what happened, but the drawing can show us how it felt.

6:42In Kiev, I met Madame Olga, age 99. She was too old to get out of her bed when the air raid sirens rang. I remember she had a Bible tucked under her pillow. She was very muddled. She was confusing Putin and Hitler. And she held the translator's hands about six inches from her face. And in this moment of wonderful clarity, she said, If you be quiet, I will tell you the story from the beginning. She was born in 1923. She was taken to a collective farm with her father. She survived the Holodomor, the great famine which killed four million Ukrainians. When World War II started, she worked as a slave for a Nazi family.

7:28She recounted the story about one time they fed her worms. She ran away on another occasion to the police station, but the policeman returned her straight back to the house. When the war ended, she began to walk home to Ukraine. she met her husband on the way, future husband I should say they got married, she had four children, she lived another 80 years if it hadn't been for the process of drawing I wouldn't have shared this moment with Olga and I wouldn't be able to share it with you she died a couple of months after we met peacefully in her sleep before her 100th birthday I believe the news is failing us it promotes destruction before humanity it's polarizing and fatiguing it gives the illusion of certainty you might feel helpless or hopeless we'd certainly be forgiven for turning it off my antidote is to wander the streets and stand on corners I work with local translators and fixers to interview the unsung and the understated like Oleg, 23-year-old mixed martial arts fighter and football fan from Ukraine.

8:46He joined the military to fight the Russians with his football friends. But on this day, I drew him being served borscht by his mother, Lisa, the English teacher from that town. And he posed for me with his Kalashnikov, but also, more unusually, with his guinea pig, Almond. and throughout the sitting he whispered to Almond affectionately you are a big pig you are a big pig

9:22it's people like Sergei that remind me that these stories are continuing as I stand in front of you perhaps the most ordinary of them all an architect whose house fell on his head when it was hit by a Russian missile. And I met him in the hospital, bandaged wrapped around his head. I said, I asked if I could draw him, and the nurse translated, and he looked at me down his nose, and he grinned from ear to ear, and he said, yes, but I will also draw you. And a date, very formally, a date was arranged for the next day, and I came back, and we sat in one of the wardrooms. The windows are still sellotaped up in case there was an explosion.

10:02and we sat and we drew each other. We didn't share any common language. We were both shy about our drawings. Like all good artists, he blamed his tools for the quality of his picture and he'd probably be secretly proud to know that I was showing you this. Hey y 'all, Elise here. Up on the screen behind George, we see two drawings. On the left, Sergei's drawing of George. He's looking down at what we can imagine is his drawing pad. On the right, George is drawing of Sergei. He's standing, slightly angled, and looking towards George, or us. His face has the most detail, including a thick mustache, and he's wearing a hat, an overcoat, and leaning on a cane.

10:50Sergei, this is your story. Of course, these are only four stories from Ukraine. But over the years in Syria and Tajikistan, Gaza and Iraq, I have met and drawn hundreds of other people. But why in the age of immediate news do you need to know about Alman the guinea pig or Sergei the architect or Olga the great-great-grandmother or Hamdo, Lisa, Dimitri? Well, perhaps it's obvious. I believe they could so easily have been one of us. They are the true consequences of war. And I tell you them, I share them with you tonight because they are ordinary people who had terror poured on their lives and resisted it with their hearts.

11:48I'd like to finish with a confession, more of an admission, if you like, but a difficult one for artists, I think, to admit. As it turns out, it isn't really about the painting at all. That's just an excuse to sit a little longer, to give time. We've heard about listening accurately today. This is about observing, seeing properly. Drawing is the only way I know how to do that. But today I invite you, more than that, actually, if I'm allowed, I urge you to witness these stories and not consume them, to be deliberately slow, and to cherish human connection. Thank you for listening.

12:43That was George Butler at TED 2026. If you're curious about TED's curation, visit ted.com slash curationguidelines. And that's it for today. TED Talks Daily is a podcast from TED. This episode was fact-checked by the TED Research Team and produced and edited by our team, Martha Estefanos, Oliver Friedman, Lucy Little, Emma Taubner, and Tansika Sungmarnivong. Additional support from Daniela Ballarezzo, Christopher Faze-Bogan, Valentina Bohanini, Banban Chang, Brian Green, and Lainey Lott. Learn more at podcasts.ted.com. I am Elise Hu. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feet. Thanks for listening.

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