

Gina Rosero’s coming out and transition journey, framed for International Transgender Day of Visibility, plus a brief onstage Q&A about how parents and allies can support trans children.
Gina Rosero, a model, director, and transgender activist; Catherine Schultz, a journalist who interviews her onstage.
She says gender identity is fluid and self-identification should be allowed; she hid her story for nine years due to how society treats people who “break free”; she links trans acceptance to reducing fear and shame, and calls for allyship.
Assigned male at birth in the Philippines; wore a “hair” T-shirt as a child and knew she was a girl; met T.L., a transgender beauty pageant manager, at 15 and won pageant honors; moved to San Francisco in 2001 and changed name/gender marker after surgery in Thailand; cites Aylan Nettles’ murder and notes trans suicide rates and the Nov 20 vigil.
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Elise Hu introduces Gina Rocero and the significance of her talk.
“Because of my success, I never had the courage to share my story.”
Gina shares her journey of self-identity and coming out.
“or wherever you're listening to this podcast.”
Gina discusses her experiences with acceptance and love from family.
“I would always wear this T-shirt in my head.”
Gina recounts her experiences in beauty pageants and finding her identity.
“is a pageant queen for transgender women, but I'll take it.”
Gina describes her move to the U.S. and the empowerment she felt.
“I mean, for some people, their ID is their license to drive or even to get a drink.”
Discussion about the struggles faced by the trans community and the need for vigilance.
“My deepest truth allowed me to accept who I am.”
Gina's heartfelt plea for allyship and support for the transgender community.
“But it's this gender identity is in the core of our being, right?”
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0:03You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day. I'm your host, Elise Hu. Today is the International Transgender Day of Visibility. Founded in 2009 by activist Rachel Crandall, it was created to combat the discrimination that transgender and non-binary people face across the world. and to celebrate and honor the resilience, joy, and accomplishments of trans folk everywhere. We are resharing a talk that is as moving today as it was more than a decade ago from model, director, and activist Gina Rosero. She shares her story of becoming who she always knew she was.
0:46Because of my success, I never had the courage to share my story. not because I thought what I am is wrong, but because how the world treats those of us who wish to break free. I'm here at this stage because it's a long history of people who fought and stood up for injustice. Today, this very moment is my real coming out. And stick around afterwards for a brief onstage Q &A between Gina and journalist Catherine Schultz. That's all coming up right after a short break.
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3:49And now, our TED Talk of the day. The world makes you something that you're not. But you know inside what you are. And that question burns in your heart. How will you become that? I may be someone unique in this, but I am not alone. not alone at all. So when I became a fashion model, I felt that I finally achieved the dream that I've always wanted since I was a young child. My outside self finally matched my inner truth, my inner self. At that time I felt like, Gina you've done it, you've made it, you have arrived. But this past October I I realize that I'm only just beginning. All of us are put in boxes by our family, by our religion, by our society, our moment in history, even our own bodies.
4:54Some people have the courage to break free, not to accept the limitations imposed by the color of their skin or by the beliefs by those that surround them. Those people are always the threat to the status quo, to what is considered acceptable. In my case, for the last nine years, some of my neighbors, some of my friends, colleagues, even my agent did not know about my history. I think in mystery, this is called a reveal. Here is mine. I was assigned boy at birth based on the appearance of my genitalia. I remember when I was five years old in the Philippines walking around our house. I would always wear this T-shirt in my head.
5:46And my mom asked me, how come you always wear that T-shirt in your head? I said, mom, this is my hair. I'm a girl. I knew then how to self-identify. Gender has always been considered a fact, immutable. What we now know, it's actually more fluid, complex, and mysterious. Because of my success, I never had the courage to share my story. Not because I thought what I am is wrong, but because how the world treats those of us who wish to break free. Every day, I am so grateful because I am a woman. I have a mom and dad and family who accepted me for who I am. Many are not so fortunate. There's a long tradition in Asian culture that celebrates the fluid mystery of gender.
6:50There's a Buddhist goddess of compassion. There is a Hindu goddess, Hidra goddess. So when I was eight years old, I was at a fiesta in the Philippines celebrating these mysteries. I was in front of this stage, and I remember out comes this beautiful woman right in front of me, and I remember that moment, something hit me. That is the kind of woman I would like to be. So when I was 15 years old, still dressing as a boy, I met this woman named T.L. She is a transgender beauty pageant manager. That night she asked me, how come you are not joining the beauty pageant? She convinced me that if I join, that she will take care of the registration fee and the garments.
7:39And that night, I won best in swimsuit and best in long gown and placed second runner-up amongst 40-plus candidates. That moment changed my life. All of a sudden, I was introduced to the world of beauty pageant. Not a lot of people could say that your first job is a pageant queen for transgender women, but I'll take it. So from 15 to 17 years old, I joined the most prestigious pageant to the pageant where it's at the back of the truck, literally, or sometimes it would be a pavement next to a rice field, and when it rains, which it rains a lot in the Philippines, the organizers would have to move it inside someone's house.
8:27I also experienced the goodness of strangers, especially when we would travel in remote province in the Philippines. But most importantly, I met some of my best friends in that community. In 2001, my mom, who had moved to San Francisco, called me and told me that my green card petition came through, that I could now move to the United States. I resisted it. I told my mom, Mom, I'm having fun. I'm here with my friends. I love traveling, being a beauty pageant queen. But then two weeks later, she called me. She said, Did you know that if you moved to the United States, you could change your name and gender marker?
9:07That was all I needed to hear. My mom also told me to put two E's in the spelling of my name. She also came with me when I had my surgery in Thailand at 19 years old. It's interesting, in some of the most rural cities in Thailand, they performed some of the most prestigious, safe, and sophisticated surgery. At that time in the United States, you needed to have a surgery before you could change your name and gender marker. So in 2001, I moved to San Francisco. And I remember looking at my California driver's license with the name Gina and gender marker F. That was a powerful moment. I mean, for some people, their ID is their license to drive or even to get a drink.
9:59But for me, that was my license to live, to feel dignified. I mean, all of a sudden, my fears were minimized. I felt that I could conquer my dream and move to New York and be a model. Many are not so fortunate. I think of this woman named Aylan Nettles. She's from New York. She's a young woman who, courageously living her truth, but hatred ended her life. For most of my community, this is the reality in which we live. Our suicide rate is nine times higher than that of a general population. Every November 20th, we have a global vigil for Transgender Day of Remembrance. I mean, I'm here at this stage because it's a long history of people who fought and stood up for injustice.
10:54Today, this very moment is my real coming out. I could no longer live my truth for and by myself. I want to do my best to help others live their truth without shame and terror. I am here, exposed, so that one day there will never be a need for a November 20th vigil. My deepest truth allowed me to accept who I am. Will you? Thank you very much.
11:34Thank you. Thank you.
11:41Geena Rocero: Gina, one quick question for you. I'm wondering what you would say, especially to parents, but in a more broad way, to friends, to family, to anyone who finds themselves encountering a child or a person who is struggling with and uncomfortable with the gender that's being assigned them, What might you say to the family members of that person to help them become good and caring and kind family members to them? Well, first, really, I'm so blessed. I mean, the support system with my mom, especially, and my family, that in itself is just so powerful. I mean, I remember every time I would coach young trans women, you know, would mentor them.
12:19And sometimes when they would call me and tell me that their parents can't accept it, I would pick up that phone call and tell my mom, mom, can you call this woman? and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But it's this gender identity is in the core of our being, right? I mean, we're all assigned gender at birth, so what I'm trying to do is to have this conversation that sometimes that gender assignment doesn't match, and there should be a space that would allow people to self-identify, and that's a conversation that we should have with parents, with colleagues, and the transgender movement, it's at the very beginning to compare to how the gay movement started.
13:04There's still a lot of work that needs to be done. There should be an understanding, there should be a space of curiosity and asking questions, and I hope all of you guys will be my allies.
13:15Geena Rocero: Thank you, that was so lovely. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
13:48Nivam. This episode was mixed by Christopher Faze Bogan. Additional support from Emma Taubner and Daniela Balareso. I'm Elise Hugh. I'll be back tomorrow with a fresh idea for your feed. Thanks for listening.
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When fashion model Geena Rocero first saw a photo of herself in a bikini, "I thought ... you have arrived!" As she reveals, that's because she was born with the gender assignment "boy." In this moving talk, Rocero tells the story of becoming who she always knew she was.
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