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27:02And he went for it and he even wrote one so it as a huge huge success. So movie and she enough when the movie twins came out, he was number one at the box office. And it made the most money of any movie that I've ever made at that point. And so it just shows you how daring this guy is. How much guts they had and how they kind of like did not take a no fun answer. There was a key to executive decision whenever work. That was doing this is a big mistake. And the same thing is said to Jim Cameron. The same thing the state to to John Millius when he said, okay, honor is going to be colon and at press men also said that honor is going to be and the director said at the beginning.

27:46No, no, no, I don't want to talk. They forced their way through it and that became Conan. And she went out after the third day of filming. The director came up to me. It was in the studio, this warehouse in Madrid that we were filming, the watchy scene that was in the movie. We shot it at kind of the beginning of the movie. And I remember that there was this freezing court of warehouse. He would be shot to the scenes and then he would come up to stairs. Up to stairs and he came right in front of me. And he ate it. He didn't want me to become. He came up to me right in my face. And he said, As you are the leg.

28:27Ah, your colonel. Ah, and turned around and walked off. So Chalmilius comes over to me running over me and says, What is he saying? What is he saying? As he said, Chalmilius, your colonel. and John Millions, the director, just jumped over me, hugged me, gave me a big, big beer hug. And his name is Congratulations, I love Congratulations. This is the greatest compliment that you can ever get from Deena. Deena loves the dailies. He watched short of footage with shot the last three days. He loves it. And he can say, I don't know, there's Conan. You got that? This is a compliment. This is the great.

29:05I said, but I felt kind of like, I was shocked that he didn't stay more. I mean, I just said, oh, there's this none of that's all you want to hear is this trust with this all you want to get that's really fantastic. And so John Milley is in the port of Red River, he got, you know, the celebrate the whole thing and we were smoking up a storm right then and then they're on the set. But they will be well all then so excited that they know finally bought in the idea that I'm calling them. And so since then, our relationship has been fantastic and Tina and I did other movies after that together and he became kind of like a mentor to me and treated me always like a son and he was absolutely fantastic.

29:43So I was very, very sad that he in the past away. I think he was like 91 years old. He never worked that in his life. But he always ate well and lived out the life of that. And so he passed away with 91. I was about to see these Yulachee many past the way he had to cathedral and the downtown Los Angeles. He was just a wonderful man that it just loved the guy. What's it like going through life, having people over and over tell you you can't do something? And then you do it in the biggest, most beautiful, successful way possible. What does it feel like? Well, I first thought kind of like an idiot because then as a voice, Everyone always say no you're gonna fail in that.

30:26Oh, you're never gonna make it. You're never gonna go to America Oh, what are you talking about? You want to be a world champion body body really is American sport You're asking why don't you try to play sock or learn to ski or something like that? So everything was always no no no I didn't really came to America. No one to get in the movies to say oh yeah, sure That's a good one you would movies. I mean look Hercules movies are out that the new ID's are, you know, dust half -moneyed up a cheetah and the Woody Allen And those are the new guys. They're all way out of the 20, 140 pounds. You had 250 pound body is out I mean, they're forget about it.

31:03So it's was always no no no even when I was going to run for you know governor They say, oh, we have to start the first for mayor run for mayor and then for state senator But you can't just go for governor. This is crazy said, always was note. But then I found out as time went on, the system was common saying that people told that if they hear a dream or vision, that it counts outrageous, people would just say, it's impossible. It's a natural thing. I'm sure you have heard that, right? Every step of the way. Every step of the way. Exactly. So be every, but it's because you do great things. So of course, when you say now, I want to do this record.

31:45I want the producers, I want to bring this and this musician together. I want to do this and sell out the stadium. So they say, I don't know where it guys out. He's always something. It's always the reason why they said no, it can't be done. And so this is wonderful lessons that I talk about also in the focus. Just done. Listen to the Naysayers. And because if you have a clear vision, that's where you go. So I think one of the things that all of the people, the directors that you mentioned that worked with me, that were really fantastic directors. One of the things that day I had in common, all of them was that they had another vision, that they had the guts to do it, that they didn't think small, they thought big, and they didn't use to do the lace hares.

32:31They said one of the things. I myself, now I feel like it's really a compliment, in some instances it's impossible because it means then kind of goes back to what Nelson Mandela said, everything is always impossible until someone does it. Yes. Right? Okay. Some of them said, oh, it's impossible. I don't, instead make actually motivates me to say, okay, I'm going to show you that it is possible. And then I break this ground and then everyone else can do. Yes. And then everyone else is, it's possible. You know, I did go back to, you know, weightlifting and there's many other examples because in weightlifting, I remember it was always kind of like it's impossible to clean a church, to lift overhead 500 pounds or over 500 pounds.

33:14They tried, they tried, they tried, and everyone always said this can't be done, this can't be done. We always failed in all this. And then one time a Russian very lived the name of Alexiev. He went and he says, okay, I want 498 pounds. And he wanted to, you know, those counts. Third lift, he wanted to be safe. And still break his record, could be the other recorders for 96. So they want to go for 98. And because they go back to Russia and they get money for that. So anyway, so it was in Columbus, Ohio. And they put on the 498 and they lifted it, pop, over here, where they're down, three green lights light up means it was a good lift.

33:55And now of course, because it's a world record, they have to roll it onto the scale. Because they have to be three charges just seeing that it's sacked. It is, you know, it does plates. It can always be a little bit off. You know, so anyway, they wrote it out and it was 500, then one pound. Wow. So now the world has seen the human being because they didn't know it was 500 pounds. If you would have known, maybe we wouldn't have listed it. Yes. But anyway, so now it's 500, one pounds. They're very same year for other weightlifters, this is the 500 pounds. Amazing. After it being impossible, I don't know if it's being impossible, but it just shows you the power of the mind.

34:35Yes. Because you were asking me how much the body really has to do with the body of the mind. The mind is extremely important in every step of the way in your life. Yes, we can well things with, but the will comes from your mind. And being able to say, I don't care if everyone says no, and it's impossible. I see it, I know I can do it, I'm convinced I can do it, and I go all out to do it. And so, you know, this is in weightlifting, we've seen it in the, remember the formula, a mile running on by all the below four minutes. There's endless amount of kind of examples that people have shown that possible becoming possible.

35:14You know, and so I think the key thing with all of this is, you know it, because just successful. I know it, because I'm successful, But there is a lot of people out there that don't feel they're successful. And there is always something or a lot of things that are holding them back from being successful. And the little thing like not having a vision, that knowing where to go, what to do next, can trip you up and already make you kind of freeze. And they say, what should I do? What whether or if they listen to people that say, you can't be done. You're stupid. Don't even try that. You know, so many things like that.

35:55Or those people that are just, you know, loners. And they don't know how to connect with people. And they always tell people it is so important to recognize that we are all into kind of like company. We all love to do things together. Don't float around by yourself. It's a waste. You got to be with people, be with people. I love training with people. I love bicycling with people. I like going to dinner with people. I like talking with people. I like traveling with people. I like going to the soapbox with people. I like the skin with people. We have people that need company because then you can have great conversations and you inspire each other.

36:40If you can't do it alone, Because there's no such thing, right? So that's why I said, there's no such thing as self -made math because we all need this kind of inspiration and this help. So I always urge people, that's why I wrote this book, because I wanted to let people know, here are some rules that you can use. They can help you forward, and it will be also to be successful.

37:04Tell me about the camaraderie of the bodybuilding community when you joined it. what was the feeling? Were they helpful to each other? Did everyone support each other? Tell me about it. Yeah, absolutely. It was kind of like almost without saying it, we understood that not everyone is always at your height every day. For no reason, we get up sometimes and things are a little off. Right? There's not that there's someone that's taking money from you. We have always made a deal. You know, you lost your house. No, there's no reason at all. But when you have friends, you cheat each other and you kind of inspire each other.

37:45So when you go to the gym, you just translate it to the gym and to the bodybuilding, I would go with my friends and they would be devastated by getting one in the gym. We started working out. And I would just say, all the day, I don't really feel good. I don't know. Everything is kind of sore. And it's like, I just don't sweat with the program the day. And I'd Franko would say my training partner was it. So why don't we just use very little weights? Let's just use light weights. Let's just do high reps. And we would light down and we would just do high reps and do with low weights. And then always had enough to have an hour.

38:18Franko was like, let's put that leg subplate on it. Let's just try it out. And then always had that realize that now I've gotten over this period of everything is painful, everything is sore and blah, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff is feeling bad about myself. They always ended up going beyond that and always in the way it's said and so pretty good. This is okay. Maybe we should go that some more way to make it said. And so together, he said, you know, I don't feel that great. They are with that. But let's just, let's just see how far we can go. And so you said, talking each other through that and always said, because you have two three training partners, you pop bitch out of the up and you forget about this and then always said, and you end up with a great, great workout.

38:56So this training partner said, pulled you out of this kind of dark spot, but he didn't feel good when he came into the gym. And now you left the gym feeling great and going for lunch and out together with the gang. And it's really a big, great, great pop in everything. So I think that doing things together and supporting each other and pumping each other up, I think it's so important. And it's also fun. I mean, when I see someone doing an exercise in the gym and I see them in a doing kind of like half reps. And as I said, is it you plan on doing half reps? No, why? And might we have reps? Wait, I don't know the criticize you, but the minute that seems to me that if you go to pull down exercise, why not go all the way up to the top with your abs, they put all the way down between the bar goes to the chest and then all the way up again, this is the full motion.

39:51I said, this is what I would do.

39:57I better it works. And then they said, well, thank you very much. That's kind of you. They say that I said, well, let me just check it out. Let's go for it. And then I just held out the reps for them. And then they feel fantastic. They have just now learned something. So this is how you help each other, even with bit strangers, I do it with strangers. And because it makes me feel good that I could help someone else because I know how great it makes me feel that someone helps me. Yes. And so this is always like a give and take with everything like that. Now, this is why I always say that people give back.

40:32Don't just take the gift back. It's very, very important. You can make it feel just as good as receiving, just giving something. When I was a little kid, your book, the Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding came out. And everyone I knew had it. It was like the Bible. It was the reference book that every kid used who was inspired by you or by bodybuilding and just wanted to get into shape. It's amazing how successful is that book being over the course of its life? Must be insane. You know, it is insane. It's really unbelievable. And so I think that's what it's all about. I don't know if you remember when Mike Keybeth connected us.

41:12Yes, I remember because I called you because I was about to have a surgery and I was terrified and you had the surgery. So, and I thought if I talked to someone who had the surgery and lived, It would feel better than just going in blind and you really helped me a lot. Yeah, but I mean, that's what I'm talking about See I've known you Yes, and I've known your career and I've known your success And I know what to speak to I could have reduced the you are and record that you make most extraordinary records The working with the hugeest bands and rock most stars and all this I knew or this is it but But no matter how successful you are and how powerful you are, that is the scary thing that goes through to have a heart surgery.

41:55It's the scary thing that I know other than that, but when I went through it, so of course, when I went through it, I called people and they asked me what was it like to have a heart surgery and they would kind of Skype me through it. They don't worry about it. I mean, it's just one of those things in that they would take good care of it. You're going to be the hospital in Blahblah Blah. And so when I learned the deal of a heart surgery and Michael Keywiss said, do you want to talk to him? Of course, I want to talk to him. I said, because I need to let him know that it is not, it is a big deal, but then I had a son of a big deal because he doesn't have to do anything.

42:30You know, the heart surgery is doing all the work. You know, it's just like the other health issues here. And then you wake up and then he is going to expect that. So we went through it, what they expect when you wake up and from that point on and all and you know, I mean, you've done unbelievable because you've taken all the advice and I mean, how much weight did you lose set set? I lost 130 pounds over the course so from when my voice had been unbelievable. Miracles. I mean, how linear now? I mean, it literally looked like 10 years of youth of your life. Yes. Age -wise, I mean, maybe 10 years younger but being now lean on everything like that.

43:10So I mean, but this is the very thing I'm talking about is that it made me feel great that I could go and pump you up before hard surgery and then go and make you feel like it's okay. That's just the way you did it because the last thing you want is have the hard surgery and worry about it like crazy, right? So anyway, so this and the same thing is not. So of course there will be people that would be calling you and say, hey, I have heart surgery. Tell me all about it. So then you pump them up and you spend the half an hour or an hour or two hours and then phone with them and you talk to them and they make them feel good.

43:49Right? Yes. So this is this is what I'm talking about is it's it's so important that we recognize we are so powerful if we do things together and not just think that I can do it by myself or I can do it alone. I'm a self -made man. He's listening to so -and -so, we need each other. That is the key thing. I remember when I called you, you were in Europe, we were in a very different time zone, and you were smoking a cigar and playing poker. But you took time out from the game to talk to me, and I just remember the scene. It was just such a wild scene growing up watching you, now talking to you, smoking a cigar, playing poker, and trying to calm me down about heart surgery was a wild experience.

44:32So I thank you very much again for that. No, no, you're welcome. How has everything going with the music business? Everything's cool. Making music like a fiend can't stop. So we worked together back on last act of the year, right? Yes, I produced the ACDC song that was for the soundtrack for the last action hero. Yeah, and then I was in it in the music video. Yes. With them, but it was really a lot of fun. kind of like I think the story was of me going in there and Not really approving of the crowd that much and just being amazed and everything I saw I've got very close to the musicians and checked out and they made them move since With the way they played to get down or there was a lot of fun doing that because at that time I have done one other one which was with Axel Rose, Guns and Rosers.

45:29We have done it for Terminator 2. And so I really enjoyed that. That was also fun to do. And since that was, you know, that's simply amazing that I'm getting involved even though I'm not musically inclined, even though I love music, but I'm not musically inclined. My father played six instruments, really, with trumpet, saxophone, clarinet, and all of those kind of instruments. And he was also the conductor, the Shender Marie, which is kind of the police music in Syria, the province, the Dan crew up in. So he was, you know, playing a lot of funnels and a lot of times I did this in the city park where he dragged us to listen to him, which was because we had no interest in.

46:16So he always wanted me to learn an instrument. So I just never got it. You know, he decided to teach me how to play the trumpet, but I didn't get it. Then he decided to go and have me go to the farmer next door who was also a musician. And he played the guitar. He tried to teach me how to play the guitar. I didn't get that either. So it was the legacy. I did not understand when they had the music, the notes, and all of that. It just didn't quite connect thoughts there. And so they just gave up. Did your dad used to play in the house? Would you hear him play? Yeah, I would know that there was like, there was a kid, the, the my school colleague that was living a hundred yards from us in the little shack and there were, you know, four of them, you were, and he was very talented.

47:02And he's still that they placed the trumpet in the flea one. So my father would go on the windows, and I was working out outside and in our house. And while I was working out, he would be playing the trumpet. and my friend then started to take the trumpet across the streets on the other yards away, also the trumpet. So I mean, the whole neighborhood did it. They took the trumpet at her daughter's music and they were going back and forth and back and forth. It was wonderful. Do you think that your dad's work ethic with music inspired your work ethic in the gym? He was very disciplined and he wrote music and I remember him writing the notes and all the pages of the pages of the pages.

47:45with the black ink and with the pen, you know, just put the ink well and then just write the music and all that stuff. And so he was really into it. I mean, it was like music was it. And I don't know where he got it from, to be honest with you because I don't know. I think maybe Marella, they've spent that maybe comes from music, I don't know. But I mean, he was really into it. You mentioned earlier about when Franco said, maybe we'll do lighter weights, more reps. Tell me about heavy weights, less reps versus lighter weights, more reps. What's the philosophy? Well, first of all, it's always better to go lighter weights and more reps.

48:23Why? Because so many people injure themselves. Because if you don't have a really skilled trainer with you, there's a lot of exercises they do like squats, their lifts, bend them around and shoulder presses and something like that. You really can hurt your back and then you can awaken back to these and your hips and your shoulders and all that stuff and up and back. So I always say to people, if you're trained in most cases, which is rather called lighter than heavier, I have found the joy of lighter training only by accident really because after I had my heart surgery, the doctor said to me, this is like, really you place your mouth.

49:06So don't go anymore like, you know, it's just kind of like lift 600 pounds. It's over. Is it because every time you do that, you're just raining and you keep your ear in and you try to lift a heavy weight, it puts a lot of pressure on that mouth. So the idea of it is to have that mouth last the smallest possible. Eventually, we have to replace the mouth. maybe in 10 years from now, maybe in 15 years from now, but the more heavy you train, the faster we have to replace. So that is the reason I forget that. I'm going to go and shift now. I'm going to just do 15, 20 reps everything until the lighter weight that they can easily do and really get kind of concentrated on those mats and get the same pump.

49:54And that's what I started doing and I tell you something my injuries went away and I still felt great physically. I've still got the pump and everything like this. So I realized that it is not advantageous to overload. Yes, if you are young, you're 15, 20 years old and you really want your muscles to grow and yes, you want to gain strength, then you have to do powerlifting training, then you have to go into the first said 15 reps, then 10 reps, five reps, three reps, three reps, three reps, three, order the real little bit of the mind and the body, no, this is the way you need to lift. So to get comfortable with the heavy heavy weight.

50:39So yes, the moment's like that. I did all of that then I was, yeah, when there was a weight lifting and power lifting, competing in a little bit of the best state, if it was like 710 pounds. Wow. And with squats, I was doing like 600 and bench press, 525 and all the stuff. So yeah, I lifted heavy weights, but to come to the time where you got to get off the heavy weights and then lift lighter weights to the exercises correct. And the key thing now is the mental aspect again that you got to be inside your body when you train. And though just to go look around and to go see the motion is not going to do anything.

51:19You have to really concentrate when I train my bicep, I'm bitmiring inside the bicep. When I train my chest, I'm inside my pectoral muscles and my chest. So I really mentally feel and I do chin -ups, I feel the lads and the wings in the back, you know, kind of moving and all this stuff. So I think the key thing is to really concentrate And I think that all the great assets were telling you that the more you are inside the sport, the more you can look at it as a mental thing, the better it is for you, the more success you will have.

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53:33Do you think it would be possible to put yourself inside the movement and do it with no weights, but still get the experience of the weight just mentally? Is it possible? Absolutely. You're good. And it's something that you would do if you don't have weights about it. It's better than not doing anything. It's like I remember the weightlifters when they didn't have weights to train with and would travel around the world to go to a world championship competition. They would just press against some door, you know, inside the door, they would just press against the door frame. They would pull against something really hard, something static and they would get just as much of a workout doing that and much, much better than not doing anything.

54:18You know, so that's that's always I think that the key thing. How did the movie pumping iron come about? Well, it's interesting you asked that because it was number one. There was pumping out that got at present the idea to buy the Conan rights and to have me play Conan. Incredible. So it was pumping out. It was not stay hungry or any of the other projects that I've done. It was pumping out because they could show my personality and everything. Well, George Butler, who was the photographer for the book pumping out that came out in 1973. 73 and the writer was Charles Gaines. He came to me in 1975 and said, I would like to do the documentary of Body Love and recorded Pumping Island.

55:02And I said, great Mrs. But the only problem is you have to retire last year if your body wasn't competition. So you would have to come back and compete again. Because I don't have a documentary. If you're not competing at it, I don't have a documentary. So I said, can you let me think about it? I thought about it for a while And then I told him, okay, I go back to the competition, go down to South Africa. Where the misalignment competition was in Brutoria and in the community again. And they would film my training and also my competitors with my competition, film their training also. And so that's what they did for the next four months they filmed everything on my training and the competition itself and all that stuff.

55:47And then after they've edited it, they actually saw some stories that kind of came out of filming that were not fully developed. And then they went and shot after it was done in order to make the stories become alive, so to speak. But they were not really kind of like true stories. They were kind of like bogus. So the only thing that bumping out and was true and was reality was the training and the competition. So with everything else when you saw Vincent's bike cats looking for his underwear backstage and it made it sound like Ken Waller, he's combating the front in kind of hit -demons to throw him off a little bit.

56:32That was only just because they had the footage of him looking for the underwear, but now they said, let's go back and feel Ken Waller's like, I'm gonna hide this underwear. I'm gonna fuck up his beard and his brain a little bit. I think that they made news because of that. It's your my cards, the laws, the competition. You can watch them. Those were the kind of things that were kind of like fabricated, little things like that. But so they could, that's why we only had that darkened drama rather than the darkened entry. But everything else was a darkened, a darkened entry. It was a real footage.

57:03And because people got really interested in the personalities and the movie, it became like a huge hit. came, one of them became one of them was popular documentaries, I think of all time. And it was huge. It was played in the car, in car when we opened it, we did the film festivals with a huge smash, we got international release from the movie. So it really got the kind of attention as that regular movie would get, except it was a documentary because around 800 ,000 dollars, I think they're originally 500 ,000 dollars the budget eventually made to $850 ,000 and it was a fantastic success. I was very happy that I was in it.

57:45It helped my career. I think when the Hollywood foreign press saw pumping on, I think they gave me the gold global world for say hungry videos for them because of pumping on. I think that this, both of these movies, then they saw my personality and they got the gold global world, it's a bit of an active debt because of say, I'm great, but I think it was also because of pumping out. So pumping out was really very important for me and for my career and for bodybuilding. Remember that this movie, this documentary, is being seen day and night in thousands and thousands of generations all over the world all day long.

58:24Like in Gold Shib,

58:33we've people get inspired that you still can see on television. I mean, it's really fantastic. It's a beautiful movie and it really is inspiring and it gives us a view of a world that you can't imagine. If you're not in that world, you can't picture it. I just want to tell you also that when I talk about there's so many ingredients that helped to make bodybuilding as big as it is today. And one of those ingredients is George Butler the directed coming on and Charles Scains that wrote the book popping on and also that wrote the book Stay Hungry, which is if the movie did it did. So those guys came along in the early 70s and they did a lot of features for various different magazines about bodybuilding and other sports and when they came around, they started a pick and lady so well and photographing bodybuilding.

59:27This is really what has a tremendous impact. And all of a sudden, the book pumping on became a best seller. And it was like selling everywhere around the world. And bodybuilding became more and more popular. So those guys were extremely what for the growth of bodybuilding and new on the stage. Tell me something about bodybuilding that people who are not bodybuilders can't know. I think that probably what people should know is that it doesn't matter if you're five years old or if you're a hundred years old, you can do it. People always think this is a for young people, but it's not. There is a guy with the name of Henry Downs, that's a Canadian body, but he's not 90 years old.

1:00:15And I competed with him at the Miss Universe contest at Lutter and I was 19 and he was already over 30 years old. It was like 36 literally everyone's the oldest body, and we listen to the bed at this. And I just saw the month ago, a video of him still exercising and it was 90s. I'm gonna think about that. So it shows to you, there is people that are working out women and men that are working out and doing it for forever. And they feel like that this is really good. I was like, what is interesting about it is, in the old days, he was an absolute no -no to do weight training. As far as the guy, he was in the Henry Towsons, big towns that I was talking about.

1:01:02We were able to Canadian that big towns. I just remember it's for us that big towns. But anyway, so in the early days when I got involved in bodybuilding, this bodybuilding is paid for your health. You know, you get muscle pounds, it's paid for your heart, this is paid for that. And all that stuff, now it's exactly the opposite. All the research is shallow. The view to exercises every day that it belongs to life. It doesn't matter if you're women or men. It doesn't matter what your condition is, your health condition. You got to exercise every day. And now they're using it for therapy. I mean, weight resistance training has become the number one thing.

1:01:42My girlfriend is a physical therapist. And she has a clinic in Sanamonica here. And she's like 46 people working first. She's like 150 to 200 patients coming through every day and they all work out and do resistance with weights. The football players that are coming in that they have surgery, it's these surgery, they're working out with weights right after that. The baseball players that are having shoulder surgeries and elbow surgeries, they immediately go back with the weight resistance training. I mean, hard patients to weight resistance training. I mean, everyone is doing weight resistance training.

1:02:20This is where the action is today. So I mean, everything that they used to think is bad. Now, everyone is writing about it that it is the best thing that you can do and you have to do it every day. Amazing. Conan was the first movie after Pumping Iron? No, so I did the first stay hungry was in 75 and then after was pumping out in 75, 76 And then after that in the streets of San Francisco and the chain man's field story and then did a movie with Kirk Douglas and then Margaret called the villain. And then after that I got the counter draw. It was the first in the national big studio movie. It was like the number one, it came out number one in the box office.

1:03:09As a matter of fact, when we had test screenings in Las Vegas, they had a theater for 500 people and out there was 3 ,000 people standing in line, 3 ,000. So I mean, every gymnasium, I think, in Vegas and around Vegas or the other, they heard that Conan was being screened so they all came to the theater and they had to have three more screenings after that because people wouldn't leave. So there's really so many universal studio you're about it. There was so ecstatic to start to put in more money in the budget Of the promotion of the movie and all that and the movie was very very successful What was the experience like going on to a set starring in a movie not a bodybuilding movie But an acting movie an action movie essentially.

1:03:59What was it like? What was going on in your head? Well, I felt that I had to do the work because Conan is one of those roles, one of the lifetime roles either means so you get it right or you don't. And so to me he was important and I think the director John Millius, he had me watch with Funi in the Seven Samarites and he said watch me Funi and watch Seven Samarites very carefully because this is the attitude that Conan should have. And And that's exactly when I saw it as a form of fullness, like a sword master. I mean, he looked fantastic as a samurai. So okay, I got the message from Millius.

1:04:46I should really practice the sword really a lot. And so three years before the movie was filmed in 1977, I started working with the sword and with the sword master at the name of Yamasaki. sent him to Yamazaki, who just passed away literally like 10 days ago, whatever it was, but he became my trainer and he spent every week, three times, three hours with me practicing with swords. But literally summarized swords, bronze swords and wooden swords and plastic swords and all kinds of different swords he would bring around and then practicing with axes and with spears and all this and so we were practice and practice practice and then the horse begwriting was also extremely important and so I would just you know train the horse begwriting going out here with Terry Leonard who was the stunt coordinator of Conan and so he would take me out three times a week horse begwriting then then we went to Spain months before we started filming I was horse begwriting every single day all day long I was sitting in a horse we were going for lunch with the horse, we going for dinner with the horse, everything was under horse.

1:06:01So it became second nature. And then having always the sword with me, practicing the sword. So when we actually started filming, I never really got intimidated by the scene so overwhelmed by the scenes because I always felt kind of I was ready. It was kind of the seven piece proper prior planning prevents physical performance, right? So this is what it was. It was like I don't just be prepared. The proper power planning is extremely good because you don't want to give a shitty performance. And so this is what I was training, training and training, practicing and practicing and rehearsing this scene, the dialogue.

1:06:39I had to was the two actors that were like genius actors, one was changed in all Jones, who is unbelievable. He played falsetto. And so I went to him regularly to his motorhouse to work with me at my acting and how to deliver the lines in a dramatic way and all this stuff. And then there was Max Conceder, who was now in a academy with what winning and dominating character character, who was extraordinary, who was in the movie, played the priest in the exorcist, and he did many other movies of course. But the man he played the king, King Herod, I think was his name, the Conan. But so anyway, I would do him also to his trailer and ask him to help me with my acting.

1:07:24I would just anyone that was able to kind of help me, I would ask him for the help. And because I always say, you know, just shut your mouth and open your mind. This is always my rule. It's one of the rules in my book because there is a, instead of talking as so much when you go to the set, just listen to the wise actors in the middle and just open your mind and let them teach you how to become better and greater. That's how it becomes successful. So it's really about being humble enough to be open to learn, to not feel like, you know, everything, not feel like you have to do it your way, but to learn the wisdom from the people around you with more experience.

1:08:04But absolutely, you know, there's no one that I know that likes to learn more than me. I mean, I'm like a sponge. It's fun. Why I love to listen because I always feel like there's so much that you need to learn how to know you're fucking idiot. You know nothing. That beat myself up all the time. You know, you know nothing. Open up your mind. It's just listen. And so it was like, you know, it doesn't matter if you're a second man, then you listen to the legislators, to the all of the various different and problems that they have, listen, listen, listen. And then listen to the experts and other softness problems.

1:08:44And listen to that, if it's a Democrat, they're already probably getting listen and just let the get the oldest information in your mind. And that's how you get enriched. And so I did this with movie making. I did this in politics, in my after school programs with education and special Olympics. And I became the international culture of special Olympics. at least very carefully how do you deal with the special habits how do you train with them how do you train them how do you reward them and all this kind of stuff so it was like in a life to me it's kind of an ongoing never -ending learning experience as soon as you feel like you know it all that's when you're the stupidest because I was you would never think you know it all

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1:10:50When you first went into acting or when you first went into politics, do you think that there was some advantage you had by not having experience or not having the baggage of the past that you were coming in with a clean slate? Was that one of the strengths you had? Well, it has certain advantages when you kind of like a leaf because I remember when I became governor, one of the Republicans said, because I made a certain decision and he He said to the Asian public in college, it says, you know, I support Governor Schwarzenegger, and they were always supported. But we have to recognize that he's politically naive.

1:11:28Now I was sitting right there and he said that. And I didn't so offended by it at all because the fact was I was, but it was my advantage because by being naive and not accepting just things the way that were, made me recognize that we in America have cherry mandering and cherry mandering is the evil of all evils. Explain to me about cherry mandering. I don't know anything about it. It's just, you know, that the whole United States is coughed up in districts and this is where our representatives from. Like the Congressmen, whoever said the district, Congressional District. So the way every 10 years because the population moves around, sometimes this moment, no one is going here or there, there's more foreigners here, there, and more white people there.

1:12:19There are always, so all of this is being just kind of like watched and then you go and redraw the district lines accordingly. But what happens is the district lines have been drawn in most cases by politicians. So then we were drawn to this again in a way to predict their job. So the Democrats would throw the district lines so that all the Democrats and what the area so all you have to do There is just be way to the left and you will win the Amination from the Democrats and the Republicans will kind of close in and lock in their district So it's a Republican district So all you have to do there is be waited the right and then you win your district now imagine when the Democrats and Republicans get out now to succrement that or whatever cap of the dance.

1:13:09And one is way to the right, one is way to the left. Nothing gets done. So now the idea is just how do we go and get them closer together so that they can work together? Well, the way the districts are drawn, you can't do that. So what I said was just wait a minute that we are having a fixed system here. I know I should do anything. And you always can't be elected if a job security. But the mean I'm not saying it's getting done. They said, yeah, absolutely right. And so I said, well, we're going to change that. We're going to go and have the district strong ordinary folks to the experts in maps, but not by politicians, where you can't do that.

1:13:45So Democrats and Republicans are like, well, I've really battered. They said, how could you start tackling this problem? This is not the problem. We love it. And this is, you know, blah blah blah. So anyway, I put the bullet on the ballot. and initially they're on the ballot, they're off the people vote. And twice we lost because we couldn't really explain what their folks would redistribute them is about and they would cherry man do it's about those. What some people were saying is, why didn't he give up, it's never gonna happen. Why didn't he end up at the Naysayers, right? Why didn't he give up, it's not gonna work and all this stuff.

1:14:20We're sure enough in 2008, we won. Then two years later, we won also primaries. So now both of those things, so now one, California now, cough itself out of being unique, it was kind of one of the first states that created its own kind of independent redistricting commission to draw the district lines and take that responsibility away from the politicians. So now the politicians went nuts because of that, but it now created fear districts and now became the model for the rest of the country. So now one third of the districts in America already draw by independent Commissions so there's still a lot of work needs to be done because this is a 200 -year -old kind of like Bill in America that is totally a fixed system and where people sometimes have 70 % of certain votes, but they get only like 30 % of representation through the congressional and seats and all this I mean, it's just a terrible terrible system.

1:15:24We fixed it in California, and I'm kind of like promoting it all over the country that they should fix it and to have independent redistributing commissions. So there's certain things like this, but it's because of my naïve day. I saw that and I found that they can think that you have to do something about it. We shouldn't have taken that line down as it. That's the way it always was. That's the way, you know, they meant to do it 200 years ago and therefore we should go along with it. So I kind of like felt being an outsider, no, this is unacceptable. We got to do something about it. So this just gives you one example and there's many other examples like for instance when you are a little bit more than you for about things, you're just in general not accepted to status quo.

1:16:07Yeah, you don't know what's impossible. Exactly. That's right. So it's a bit like for instance in California, you know, they always say, you know, when we have an emergency, we are not really prepared. And I said, well, it's inexcusable. People will be prepared. And so we go and we started practicing and preparing ourselves, which drove everyone nuts, but I did it because I want to make sure that if you haven't heard, like, we are prepared to really know what the procedure is. If there's an earthquake and everything is coming down, all of our infrastructure and all this, what is the procedure?

1:16:39Where do we go? How do we communicate in all these things? what hospitals would be available? How would the hospitals increase in the amount of bed size? And the beds, the amount of beds that they have, the amount of rooms they have, surgery rooms, and all this stuff. So we worked on all of that stuff. And to me, I think it is very, very important that we kind of like step outside and take a different approach rather than just accepting the status quo. So to me, there was always an advantage. Bodybuilding also looked at bodybuilding differently. Not to look at it the same way as everyone else did.

1:17:13And way lifting was the same way. And acting was the same way. I was the first one that really said to Universal Studio, you guys are crazy to just promote the movies in three countries, in Japan, in Germany, and in America. I said, it's insane. You should go to 10, 20 different countries and promote the movie and set, increasing the popularity of movies in these other countries. And this is none of your crazy. Well, I went with Conan the barbarian to 50 different countries. Wow. They were successful in these 15 different countries. And now, of course, they're sending the actors all over the world because now finally, they realize that the world is a marketplace.

1:17:54It's not just America and Germany and Japan, but you think it's their own world. It's the least of its African countries. Maybe there's less money coming from the spaces on the south America. But let's go and promote the movie in every country, in every continent, all over the world. So does that kind of like having a fresh mind and being an outsider, you look at things different. Considering you married into the most important Democrat family in the history of the country, how did you choose to run as a Republican? Well, I was a Republican from the time I came to America in 1968. So when I listened to human humtory who was running for president in 1968 and then I listened to Richard Nixon So there was no two ways about that to make my mind coming from a socialist country that I was war with Nixon So I felt like when Humtory talked it was like being back in Austria as if that's that's not what I want I was something different and so I became naturally because of Nixon and Republican and it was clearly a Nixon Republican, which means that he was also minded, because Nixon was a Republican, but he also was seeking for universal healthcare.

1:19:10He was also starting out the EPA in Washington, the environmental protection agency. So he was in the environment, protecting the environment. He was also for fighting in a pollution. So it was a lot of things that he had in the genius informed policy, especially with his sidekick, you know, Henry Kissinger, who was also very, very smart. So all of this, so this was known to Maria when I went out with her at the beginning. And also her father always stayed in the dinner table. I'm a Nixon fan. And of course, in the later 70s, there was a good thing to say, because now we have gone through Watergate and we have gone through, and Sergeant Strava, a father ran against it because he was the vice presidential candidate with the governor.

1:20:06So Sergeant Strava said, I love mixed, you know, he always said, coughing, he's a crook, he's a crook, you know, that's upset. So, which I tell you understood, you know, that there's some of his point of view, because then, you know, then why charge of, and then responsible for breaking into the national health court as a democratic party in order to, and it will major, major mistakes made. At the bottom of 90s policy wise, I always admired him and thought it was great. So I modeled myself kind of after that. But I mean, that didn't mean that I closed my mind to the democratic way of thinking.

1:20:44So when I listened to conversations at the Shriver House or at the Kennedy House, wherever we were, you know, I thought they were really profound and very interesting ways of approaching problems. And what I loved about the family was that they always talked about solving problems, solving issues. And so I was kind of like so excited about it. was like in the early days when someone talked to me about, around me about fitness and about weight training, this was kind of a new world that I'm always setting picking up orders information, never learning things that I never thought of and obviously I'm thinking about it.

1:21:25So it was really great that I was kind of learning from them, getting motivated and inspired by them and about policy and then later on that actually has an effect them, they wanted to run for governor, but they never changed party because of that. And I just thought today, if good ideas, I have good ideas, we're probably going to have good ideas. And the trick of it is for us to work together. Democracy is probably going to have to work together to utilize 100 % of our brain power rather than just 50 % of the brain. And get the job done. Not just be stuck. Not just be stuck. It's all about getting the job done.

1:22:03That's amazing. Yeah. Of the three different work lives you've had, which would you say was the most difficult? You know, I don't think I could put a thing on any of them because I think that bodybuilding was extremely difficult. You had to work your ass out to become a champion and to say it for a long time, no, that stuff. So it was really, it was really tough. And the service and the show business and the amount of injuries that you get and stunts in show business and the dangers that you face, you know, that you can't be, you know, One day up high and every movie that comes out, it goes through the movie in the box office.

1:22:38The next day you come out with a movie and it goes into toilet and then I was sitting here nobody. So you always as good as the last movie. So it's kind of, it's dead, that's all so tough. And then of course I have to say that the biggest responsibility is being governed because Because when you do movies, it's not kind of the end of the world if a movie sucks and it goes in a toilet. And it's just that people say, okay, the movie was not that good. But in many as government, you serve 40 million people. You know, that is the huge responsibility. And now, I have to kind of connect and find out what is it that the people want.

1:23:20It's like, John of Canada said, let's not seek the Republican answer to a problem or the democratic answer to the problem, let's get the right answer and the right solution. And this is, I think, the big challenge that you have at all times to find the right solution for the problems and those problems change all the time. So we have to recognize that also. But so I think the responsibility was, it's the biggest responsibility that was being governor and also the most pleasurable, I mean, to me, I got the most satisfaction out of serving the people is nothing like it than to serve the people of California and also the disavowability of the fact that you help people all over America and like we've got about mental issues and good government practice zones.

1:24:08There's a rippling effect on over the world. So we have had an impact worldwide. So I mean, but I was very fortunate to have three careers, do you have learned from all three careers that are talking about in that book be useful? And now I'm combining all of those three talents into one so that I can use all of those three talents and move forward and make it just a better world, make people more fit, motivate people, make them more successful and do my TV series in the full bar and other TV shows and the movies and stuff like that and continue with my after school programs. So I'm having really a great time doing all my different careers.

1:24:50Thank you so much for doing this. I feel like I could talk to you forever. Thank you so much for sharing the wisdom of your incredible life and look forward to seeing you soon. Okay, you got it. Thank you very much and good luck with everything.

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