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28:07Sure it's easy to talk, but it's taking it any either with the chair on top. The Belgian and the situations that are advocated imaginations. Moments that six to six, one of them want to fix it with a kiss on the lips, but I think I'm lying. Take the day by. I wanted to see the world and come through your eyes and through your mind. I think that I like to see it along your beautiful life. I think that's fine. Mom, do it all over again. I guess harder to breathe, but I take it and I want it and I look for new things because I'm craving expectations that are ununting all the temptations. I guess I just taste it.

29:09It was a point of trying, it turns into a wish because I think I'm lying.

29:27I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I wanted to see the world and color through your eyes and through your mind. I think that I like to see it along your beautiful life. I think I'm lying. I think I'm lying. I want to do it all over again. I mean the story of writing it. You know I used to hate it. I used to hate this song and now it's the first single and I love it. That's why I wrote it. It's the first single. I wrote it. I wrote the chords like a year ago.

30:54In LA and I didn't know what to do with them. I was like oh should it be slow song. And we tried making a demo and I was like to Jacob. I kind of wanted to beat to go and then I hated that. I was like we should go back to the original kind of rhythm. And Jacob was like no no I love that. I love that. And I was like okay and then that's when I started losing love. And then he made a demo to it back in London and added you know this beautiful piano. And like just kind of brought it to life a bit and then they wrote the lyrics to it. So you wrote the lyrics to this groove, this version essentially.

31:35Exactly. And I don't really do that much in music. It's always like I write on guitar all at once. I've got the same time. And what I like about doing you know writing to a demo is that you can play around with it a bit more. And I decided that I wanted to sing differently. I wanted it to be direct. I wanted to have a different flow. Like I've never really sang in that flow before. I wanted to be a little bit sexier than my usual stuff. But yeah it's cool. I think it's cool. What if the lyrics about? God well it's about...

32:17It's about me being toxic. I think it's acknowledging what I do in relationships. And you learn later on in the album why I do that and where it stems from. But this song is me acknowledging I tend to find a comfort in chaotic things. And so my mind goes to a different place when I'm in a relationship. I like almost make things up. Like I'm in the most healthiest, most loveliest relationship ever. And they will find anything wrong with it just so I can feel normal again. I see. And I've realized it's so unhealthy to do that. And like I've been in relationships before and I've done the same thing.

33:00And it's just timed just finally. Is it only in relationships or is it rooted in like what's your relationship with your parents like? I love my mom and dad but I think they're like any other human beings that make mistakes. And I was their first kid and all they were doing was just trying to figure things out. And so... You feel like they weren't equipped to be parents? Not so much. I think it's understandable. Imagine moving from the Philippines to the UK and like never even flying out to Europe ever. Why did they decide to move? Because of me. They wanted me to have a better education. So we had a good life there.

33:46We had quite a bit of money, we had added a good job. But they started from scratch in the UK. That's really difficult. Yeah, like my dad used to tell me stories and he was like when he was getting jobs. He was trying to get jobs. He had like an amazing job with the Philippines. But he was like queuing up for night and he didn't have a baby. They couldn't afford a baby setter. So I'd be queuing up with him. And I was only about three years old. He'd like be carrying me in the set of months of queue. Yeah. It's a beautiful story. They clearly really love you if they give up their life for you. Exactly.

34:21Exactly. So it's like you know as much as they are human beings. Of course. And they figure themselves out and everyone makes mistakes. But inevitably the things that I'd been through when I was a kid, they're always going to rub off for me in terms of my current relationships. And so I have a weird comfort to chaos. And the song is about that. Yeah. I think acknowledging it really helps heal it. Exactly. Like writing music is that. It's like I have no idea how to communicate these feelings. I know I do that. I'm never going to admit them like to my partner, but I can't admit it in a song. Yes.

35:03It's not interesting. Especially when the song is public. Millions of people can hear it and it's okay. But saying it to the person is difficult. I know. It's an amazing thing. You think it has to do with the music? What do you think makes that okay? Or feel okay I should say? I think you're at your most vulnerable state when you write a song. And I'm always by myself, I'm always in a room. It's just me and my guitar. Or it's me in the demo over this. And so I feel like the possibilities at Endless and no one is watching and I can say whatever I want. Like in that moment. Like your diary. Exactly.

35:45In that specific moment, like the people who are going to listen to it in the future does not matter. It's just me. And then I go through the repercussions of when I release the song. Has it ever happened? Have you been repercussions from anything you've said in a song? Like the song that has created drum in your life? Oh my god, are you joking? You know the whole story. I don't. I don't. One of the songs of the album that is like about my breakup and what happened in that breakup called This Is How It Went. That whole song is about the repercussions of me doing what I love to do and me doing essentially my job.

36:32And yeah, I've definitely had that. I've definitely had a couple of messages. It's hard. It's so hard being able to. Yeah. We'll get to that one. Yeah. What's next? I think it's cool. You're wearing a minorder. Yeah, it's cool. Like let me know when you're in the name. Can you remember the order? Yeah, a little bit. And I get lost in the middle. Are you going to put the original intro that you had? You had a really nice intro on the demo you sent. No, we're not. We're going straight in. We'll take a bite. Really? Yeah, I really like that intro. Oh, really? I really did. I do love that intro. Jacob made it actually.

37:10It's very beautiful. It just sets a tone for something. It feels like something important is going to happen after it. Yeah. So. I'll never mention for the intro. And we've got time. We've got time. We've got time. Time.

37:53I've never felt that. Who is the same from the inside? Wanted a change and took a big bite. Call in a bluff. You'll see a real time. Wish it could see it's been a rough ride. A square ride. A square ride. Got to fact your heart always thought you knew that. Then you should fall in love. Guess how you do that. Who you still can be passed and try to live in so fast. It's not the plan. You wouldn't understand. Who is the same from the inside? Wanted a change and took a big bite. Call in a bluff. You'll see a real time. Wish it could see it's been a rough ride. A square ride. A square ride.

39:25Keepin' it quiet to where it back and I know. They won't listen to us start a crack and I've picked up the pieces of what they left. And I know. Keepin' it quiet to where it back and I know. They won't listen to us start a crack and I've picked up the pieces of what they left. And I know. They'll never know. They'll never know. They'll never know. They'll never know.

40:18Tell me the story of that one. I loved this one. That bridge is one of my favorite. It's so cool. I can't wait to play that live. That's the one thing I'm like, this is going to slap. The meaning behind it essentially is about tour and how I'm always in California. And I struggled a lot with coming to terms that, oh god, it's part of my job to do this. Like going on tour a lot. But it came to a point where I was doing it too much and I was getting put onto a lot of shows and a lot of tours. And on top of that, I was doing press on top of the shows and it was getting so intense. And I think it took a lot of courage for me to be like, I cannot do it like this.

41:04But I don't regret doing all the tours and having to go through all the stress of that. I think it definitely made me realize what I wanted and it's like I can do three weeks max. And that's it. And it took a long time for me to realize that and to say that. I was getting so good. The beauty of that is you want to do it for a long time. Yeah. And if you burn out and start not liking it. Yeah, exactly. And it stops. Exactly. Like the more I, like if I'm on tour for three months, I'm never going to want to go back for the next year. Like because it's literally every single day show. Yeah. Especially if they're not putting on a lot of like days where you're chilling.

41:46There was not a lot of like three days.

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43:28Have you ever had trouble singing a show? Oh, 100%. What is the sick or... I think all you think of being sick, feeling depressed, feeling emotional. Yeah, emotional or tired or overworked. I was very unhealthy at one point. I started going on tour when I was really young. And when I went on tour, I did this one, the Fast UK toy ever did. I was getting smashed every single night. Every single night. It was ridiculous. I was making the worst decisions. I was doing a lot of drugs. And yeah, it took a massive toll on my singing voice, 100%. And I got so used to that lifestyle that I kind of put tour in this box.

44:22I was like, tour is when I can go out and get fucked up all the time, right? So it's not really work. So it's sick. So that's kind of how I saw tour for ages. But it's not that. You have to take care of yourself. You have to exercise. You have to save your voice. Like you have to be sensible. It's like being an athlete. Exactly. No, exactly. You have to show up and do your gig. Right. And it's hard. It's literally. It's so hard. And now I have to do ballet twice a week and I train twice a week. And that's really helped my stamina on stage. I'd find myself performing for an hour and half by three.

44:59Because I need to quit smoking. It's just a bad habit. It's hard. A lot of sacrifices have to be made. How different is it when you're in a place with a high altitude? Do you notice the difference? Oh my god. Yeah, my ears. Yeah. Because obviously like I wear in ears. I don't think my voice gets drier depending on the weather. But I don't think it affects my voice. It affects my hearing so much. And also I just have a really bad time on flights with my ears anyways. So yeah, it's really bad. I have some tricks to share later. Oh really? Yes, I used to have your problems on flights and no more.

45:39Oh really? Yeah. Because I'm kicking and screaming on flights. Absolutely techniques. Okay, awesome. Yeah, I need that because I'm not sure she's getting on a flight after this. So far what we've listened to has a much bigger rock sound than your previous material. Yeah. Was that intentional? This song in particular, I wanted it to be rock song because I wanted to scream. I wanted it to be so, it was built up frustration about being forced on the tour so much. And missing home so much and feeling like I wasn't heard at times. And obviously like playing rock songs live is so much fun. So I feel like it comes hand in hand with the subject of tour and feeling frustrated.

46:23Do you feel like the energy of the music usually reflects what the lyrics are saying? Not always. Don't have to. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It depends how I feel at the time. The music you're making is guitar based music in a world where guitar based music is not the main music anymore. And are you aware that you're doing something new old? It's your way to bet. Yeah, I guess so in some ways. I think it's pretty cool. I love all music and I think the music now. I'm always going to listen to electronic. I go out and dance to techno and I would never listen to techno on the bus. But I think it's, I don't know, to me it always feels timeless playing guitar like guitar music and the bands I listen to, the bands I grew up listening to.

47:21What did you do with the suit growing up? I had a lot of phases really but my mom played a lot of the cardigans in like the Sundays or cranberries. And then when I met my girlfriend in school it was a lot of the smiths, the cure, stone roses, like. And these were bands that were from way before your time. But that was what everybody was listening to in your school? Well, my group of friends. That's interesting. Yeah, well we also listened to like when I was 13 I loved one direction. They don't get me wrong. They loved them. But then my friend Tara, she'd always like come to school and be like, I can't believe you listen to that bullshit.

48:04And she was just this like 14, 13 year old girl that would always be like, I hate it. I hate it. I'm like, no you don't understand Zane Malik. And then she showed me the smiths when I was 14. Like properly and I was like, oh I get it now. This is cool. And then I listened to it with the green day. And then when I started making music I was listening to a lot of sonic youth and pavement. I listened to a lot of deaf tones. And at the moment when I was writing this record I was, you know, I got back to listening to the Beatles and Fjörn Apple and Nora Jones and Elliot Smith, Amy Winehouse, like Pine Grove.

48:45And then the list goes on, I listen to a lot of music. Would you say you're influenced by the things you listen to or not is not so much? Oh, influenced hard. Someone is like, come to the studio with a song and I'm like, this song. We're doing this song. And like, obviously like inevitably like I'm going to hear me through it. Yeah. Like I'm always going to shine through the inspirations I take because I never like, it's so boring just, you know, just taking everything you're not imitating anybody. You're always doing you, you're doing your stuff in another style or in a different, in a different genre.

49:23And like admittedly at one point I think there was a time where I wanted to be exactly like the smashing pumpkin. And I tried doing that and failed and realized maybe you know I should just trust my god. Yeah. Let's listen to the next song. Awesome. Oh, I love this one. One time.

50:16One time.

50:21One time.

50:28One time.

50:33One time. One time. One time. One time. One time.

50:48One time.

51:15One time. One time. And such a shame you don't crush my life. One time.

52:07One time.

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52:47So funny, like at the end every time I hear that back you can hear me and so be screaming the bridge. And we were in the live room and it was me and so be like, GIG A FAIGE! GIG A FAIGE! It was one of the funnest memories I have and it's from this place. P .S. is your good old break up song. I have always, because you know, throughout my music I have been in relationships the whole time. And everyone has been like, we have never gotten a BB Dubie break up song. We have gotten like angry rock songs but we were like an angry break up song. And I have like, yeah, I have never released the way things go and that is like a sad happy one.

53:27But yeah, I thought it was time to write a proper banger. It's one that sticks in my head a lot. Yeah. Like when I think of the record, this one is the one that like has this earworm, you know? Yeah, I remember because there was that bass note and it was like, one, we need to change that one bass note and we always, so if you're like, it's like, what is this bass? It's like, how much difference will it make and we change that one note and it made the craze. It was like, it just made everything make sense at different. So yeah, thanks. But I love that song. It's just, I love like the organs. I know that it's a rock song but I love like the element of, you know, it's not a real psychedelic vibe.

54:12Yeah, yeah. And I love the outro. Like the whole bridge and end. Yeah, yeah. So cool. Or with that bit always reminded me of Annie. Yeah. You know, like it sounds like it sounds like hard not life. Like just like kids like screaming. I think I just wanted something like, just to recreate like absolute female rage. But yeah. What's next?

54:39Real Matt, one of my favorites. That's one of my favorites.

55:12I think I just wanted something like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, just to recreate like, and then after I thought about, what is that feeling? She ran my heart as it bent, please forgive me Just for thinking I'm so fleeting the last She gets no one else I taught you how to feel real man Let your heart be done and take your last I gave you a chance I read the reassurance Baby, you are a silly unless But she used to be This is quite a fall and two facts If you wanna go and get it, I'm a hope you lost If you wanna go and get it, I'm a hope you lost But she holds it down and take her last I gave you a chance I read the reassurance Baby, you are a silly unless BUT she used to be This is quite a fall and two facts If you want to go and get it I'm a hope you lost If you wanna go and get it, I'm a hope you lost But you always down and take it That's a baby with chance Baby, you are a silly unless my My My Can you about writing And I will I was...

57:26I was single for little bit and I experienced a lot of disappointing men. And essentially it's a song of me, basically a song about me telling a load of men to just pull their weight up. I was also the second chorus. There's a lyric where I say, and I already told you I'm not part of the band, yeah, please give me just for thinking it's a fleet in romance. And for ages in my career and just being a woman in the industry, like a woman in general, I'm like carrying a guitar, for example, putting it in the back of an Uber. And the Uber driver is always assumes I am never the lead singer or the guitarist or I'm probably someone else.

58:23So, you know, it's strange. It's just strange in this position and I just wanted to kind of include that in a funny little way in this song.

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1:00:04The recording has like a 1920s vibe. When you wrote it, did it have that? Yeah, yeah. It's like honestly just based off three chords. I was listening to this unreleased Lana song called Why Am Ier? And it has that sort of like, do you want to show me on the guitar? Do you remember how you wrote it? I think it's on. Is it on Dad Fatter? Is it on? I used to mean the feel of your song, not on the Lana song. Oh yeah. What was the feel you're playing when you're on? It's just and then I wanted like, and then the melody of the bridge, I wanted to be super sexy and almost playful. And it's crazy like what three chords can do.

1:01:05You can write any melody on it and it's like, oh, so the chords stay the same even though the melody changes and it feels like a whole new point. Yeah, and then obviously there's lots of instrumentation in the song, but I think that alone is already quite playful and you can do anything you want with those three chords. I mean coffee was coffee is it's just the hat. It's very similar to six pounds on the rich, I guess me, but what can you do? That's okay. That is okay. What do we have next? Oh, tie my shoes. That's sad one. I'm really sad one.

1:02:46You see all this, all this screws I risk my own man He's gonna bring me loose But too, in my plans I always wondered how you felt Keeping all the secrets in Find it hard to reason with Like to a good hearted male But thought the world would view Trying to trust in something new Still waiting on you To tie my shoes It's all gonna loose Through this, this, this, this Oh, there's my own man He's gonna see you loose But too, in my plans It's such a good vibe It's lovely I love that song What do you remember about it? I remember recording it here And playing it with Abe He's the most amazing drummer And we recorded it live And I remember just like I was staring at each other And we were playing it No, we were on -click But we were just really concentrating on the groove And just playing it loads and loads and loads of times Just like, look, look in It's got a really hypnotic vibe That must be right Yeah, yeah, yeah, we literally did it over We were getting it I love that song I love the instrumentation I love the sacks I love how rich it is I remember writing the chord progression After I'd written a song that I didn't like And I was at home And I played it to my boyfriend here And I was like, you can write a better one And I was like, because the song I originally wrote was just like I've got two cats and I live in the house And I was at the chord to lovely But you should write something, you know, like maybe a bit more meaningful And I wrote this one And the lyrics, I think, is the lyrics on this song Probably the most heartbreaking lyrics on the record I feel like this encapsulates The reason why the way I am The reason why I am Basically It's a beauty It's a beautiful song And the guitar riff answer It's so catchy and beautiful Jacob really Yeah, right?

1:06:24With the piano Excellent, beautiful I love that one Typically the lyrics come fast when you're working on a song It depends, it depends, you know I think I got really into Everything I was feeling at that moment when I wrote this song And it was after I'd written, you know, the breakup song And like, take the bite And I was thinking, I was digging deeper To why I act the way I act And it always stems from what you see when you're a child And the song essentially is just me saying Like, I've never, I always, I never want to put my hopes up for something Because I'm a scared I'm just going to get disappointed constantly Yeah You still feel that way?

1:07:21Not so much Not so much anymore, which is great Yeah Yeah, I think honestly writing music and this song, especially definitely helped You think I, like, pretty get out into the world that somehow has some healing effect on you? I guess so In some ways, you know, like a message from someone who says they've listened to the song And saying that they relate to it makes me feel like I'm almost less alone Or I saw Sabrina Carpenter the other day And I, we were talking about music and I talked about a song that I really liked Because I really relate to it and I never really heard a musician sing about, you know, that, like, those sort of situations And I don't really listen to, you know, that genre of music But I really connect to that song and I really respect her as an artist And she named a song of my last record that she said she loved And I was like, that's so funny because I'm singing about the exact same subject as you were Wow And it was, and we connected through that and I felt way less alone I felt so much better Beautiful Yeah That's great, but we have next Um, girl song I'm figuring it out at my own pace Just a girl who all thinks about proportions or waste The creases on her face They like no other And just another Another day All I wanna do is find the words and make it up to you Making all the same mistakes I guess they're still a lot to prove And there's something I can't say in an ordinary way They like no other And just another Another Another day Waking up The hardly recognizing my own face Just a stranger in the mirror thinking Oh what a shame Didn't think she'd like this way Don't look no different Tell her what looked yesterday All I wanna do is find the words and make it up to you Making all the same mistakes I guess they're still a lot to prove And there's something I can't say in an ordinary way They like no other And just another Another day My brains no good to fight in My hands are tied in all my loose And I don't know good at lying I'm better at denying The consequences that stands Down my knee to helping hand They like no other And just another Another day That sounds like a song that could have been written 50 years ago And could be written in 50 years It's outside of time Thank you that much Yeah I love that one And to think it was born out of a bad spot in my face Is that what it was?

1:12:43A really bad spot Are you ready to write it on guitar? I wrote it on guitar originally And I remember always wanting it to be on piano And I wrote the bridge on like the third day at Shangri -La And that is one of my most favorite bridges I ever wrote And I can't for the life of me remember the actual chords on guitar But I remember writing it And then going straight to the studio and I think Benny was there And I was like these are the chords And I'm showing it to him and he's playing on piano And then when we recorded it There's no comps, it's just one take And it was me and Benny in that room Yeah it was a really lovely experience It was very healing God that spot really didn't matter Because this song is great, right?

1:13:32You can really hear the intimacy between the piano and the vocal Yeah They're really connected Yeah no 100 % I mean Benny is an amazing pianist Cool, what do we have next? Coming home I'm scared of it But you always know just what to say And I'm sorry If I'm coming home too late I'm waking up to the gap on my blindspeak And sunlight I do anything just to be with you To sit and watch You slowly waking And I'm sorry If I'm coming home too late A hotel room Only rings I'll be with you soon And my very can stay Makes me feel so far away So I promise This time I won't be late And I'll fly on the roof Not a good way to leave you too And I'll see you on a plane Only shows that were miles away So I promise This time I won't be late I'll see you on a plane I'll do the dishes We'll carry the load Because we have time I emptied the trash like I said I would And it never gets what I'd have to say I'm not sorry Because this time I won't be late So cool What was the occasion that brought that song to us?

1:16:00I was an L .A. And I was away from my boyfriend And home My name is Tim so much And what's funny is that there's a lyric in that song Where I'm like And the pie on the roof It's not a good way to leave you too And that was so specific of the time Because it was like our first argument in L .A. And it was on a bar On the roof of our hotel And obviously I didn't think he's dated a musician before So when he played in the song he was like Oh! Wow, I'm like, I'm sorry! But it's so sweet, it's like It really is, it's an apology song that is having so much fun That there's no way you can be mad Like it takes all of the sting out of the story Exactly!

1:16:48It's so much fun And at the end it's like Well at the end of the day I'm not going to be late I don't need to promise you anymore Because I won't be late And I think it was you know I wrote it around the same time I wrote California about tour And it was after I finally managed to be like Three weeks marks, this is what I want I know what I want And so at the end of coming home I'm like Finally I can do what I want now And I understand You know my situation And I can now stand up for myself Which is great So I love that song If I was better at ballet I would dance to the song That could be a really good video though I know but I'm not there yet I'm really not there Something to practice for me I think even like not being good at it could be really cool too Yeah and like doing it my own way Because there's so many rules in ballet Like you're doing everything wrong at one point So you can start doing it the right way And then be frustrated and then make your own way Yeah And go Bell My pal is you would not be happy about that I can try again, Vincent I can see kids in ballet class all over Rebellion changing ideas and ballet That would be fantastic That would be awesome When did you start keeping a journal?

1:18:07Since I can remember really like Eight years old How did you get the idea to start? I don't know I've probably seen it in the movies And I was like oh my god, I really love English I love writing So an excuse to write at one point in my life Which is crazy to think about I used to find random topics And I'd write essays about it just for fun Which is cool Yeah, but I would make you a better writer I guess so, but like I find like with the way I speak And like sometimes like the way I communicate My words are all jumbled up sometimes And especially like in some of my songs Like sometimes it doesn't really make sense But it makes sense to me And when I wrote these like essays And when like I was never really good at English Despite me loving English so much And these essays weren't necessarily good I just liked writing I just liked words Are you always writing songs?

1:19:06Not so much I think I'm getting busy in that So I can't really But I try I try write every day Despite it being really hard And it's And most of the songs are trash But I think it's just getting in the habit Yeah Always playing Yeah I think it's good also because you never know when You never know when a good one's gonna come Exactly And they don't come on demand Exactly So getting the not so good ones out of the ways Exactly And also like you can revisit it and make it better Absolutely Because some of the songs in this record Came from ideas I had recorded on voice notes On my phone And I was like I like the vibe of this Or I like this one chord Like I'm gonna try recreate that And then it can become something completely different And something new So Would a voice note typically be just Singing into the voice note or might you be playing in singing?

1:20:02It'd be playing in singing Yeah But then for example take a bite Take a bite? No, I didn't even record that on voice notes I went to the studio straight away I just went and saw Jacob the next day Because I couldn't do that because it was singing over a demo Yeah But it's always guitar Welcome to the house of macadamias Macadamias are a delicious superfood Sustainably sourced directly from farmers Macadamias A rare source of Omega 7 Linked to collagen regeneration Enhanced weight management And better fat metabolism Macadamias Art healthy and brain boosting fats Macadamias Failure friendly Keto and plant -based Macadamias No wheat No dairy No gluten No ghee M .O.

1:21:05No preservatives No palm oil No added sugar House of macadamias I roasted with Namibian sea salt Crack black pepper And chocolate dipped Snack bars come in chocolate Coconut white chocolate And blueberry white chocolate Visit house of macadamias .com Slash tetra Do you feel like you can maintain your privacy now in your new life? Yeah In a lot of ways Obviously like, the thing is for me is like I love Sharing And I'm like At the end of the day like a 23 year old girl on the internet And like I will post pictures on my cats Like I will post the animal I'm with I will post my boyfriend Like that's just who I am I'm never gonna change that But you know I'm not gonna tell the internet And like everyone my entire life Yeah I mean apart from the music But I think You get to choose Exactly I get to choose And I do what I'm most comfortable Great You know Who are some of your current favorite artists?

1:22:27My current favorite artists Hmm Like musicians now like We'd be excited to go to see Ooh I'm always excited to see Tom Stahlgig I can tell you that And they were here when I was Yeah, when I was recording What is it about them that you like? I just love their life performances I think the lead singer has like Such a way performing Like he almost dances like a ballerina And since doing ballet I appreciate so much more I'm like it's super hard to do that spin And like how the hell does he do that While singing perfectly and screaming Like it's shit is crazy And the band are incredible So I love them I love Chapel Rowan I think she's awesome I definitely go see her play live I just saw a video for her that her That was great Just a little clip And I was like Her live is like Like her live shows are just so much energy And now Really good Have you seen her live or not yet?

1:23:32No, not yet But I was spoken to her briefly online There's this one song Like her new song that she released I can guess the hundred boys and But it sounds like Kate Bush Like I haven't heard a song like that in ages Like Oh my god, it's awesome She's cool Maybe you guys will get to tour together some Point Yeah, I hope so That'll be fun Have you been one? Yeah Where we have next? Ever seen Can't help but look through it Where it's just the condom And let me do it I might spend And I'll show it Wasting all my time just waiting for me Spend some time waiting for you first Don't wanna risk just waiting all the same mistakes But how is that thing got for me That I have to pray to the surgery Ever seen I'm still waiting I'm still waiting I'm bound up with a purpose I've been through this too many times And I've known this Spend a while But I felt worse But for worse I've back up and known this Cause your special sounds have my 30 face Don't wanna risk just waiting all the same mistakes But how is that thing got for me That I have to pray to the surgery Ever seen I feel like real size on the head I've been through And you've sent me All the parts of you With sheikaze That it feels much better when I'm with you I want to get you high And I can't breathe I can't lie He has a pretty sharp tongue I love him Pretty sharp tongue I love him Pretty sharp I love him Pretty sharp tongue Pretty sharp tongue Pretty sharp Who's it about?

1:27:22Jake Yeah, it's so light. Yeah, I love that song. It's so lucky for us. We're actually filming the music video in a couple of weeks. Because it's a single of that one. Oh, cool. So I'll be out when this is out, but I'm doing it in Tokyo. Cool. How many times have you gone to Tokyo? Only once really. I was a spareyance. It was so sick. What's the concept of the video? Just me being in love really. And I'm, because the song is so euphoric and it's a base. The song is about taking too much XC and gastrorefestival. Yeah. And coming up and having the worst come down ever. But like, at the end of the day, I appreciate it.

1:28:05Oh, my God, I'm in love with you. And I should just like shut the fuck up. I'm just like, I'm about all those stupid things and just focus on how beautiful your eyes are. Do you know what I mean? But yeah, it's a sweet love song, I think. And I think the whole music video is based on like me and my boyfriend did a music video for the song Glue Song. And we filmed it in my home country, Ila Ila. And he, the camera almost acted like his eyes. Like I was kind of looking at him. Beautiful. And it's always different like walking with your partner, especially like walking with Jay. Because we have such like a lovely relationship.

1:28:46Every time we walk together, especially when I'm singing about love and I'm singing about him, there is like a connection I can't really get with any other song or any other person when he films me. Yeah. It's almost like the videos can be an extension of your relationship. Yeah. Beautiful. It's fun, it's fun, it's fun, it's fun, yeah. You know, it's not performance, it's your in it. I just, I love making things with people I love. Yeah. And I think Jake is talented, like generally if we want even together, like he would be making my music videos. I don't know if I'm seeing him over there, but yeah, he's cool.

1:29:28What's next? Cool affair. I remember raw dancing to this song. I think.

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1:31:25Oh, who is exaggerating? We both celebrated, crying all over fear.

1:31:40Who's funny?

1:31:52It's funny because I spent that whole week, I remember when I was writing the song, because I actually Jacob wrote the chords and I was in the studio and I was trying to come up with the lyrics and I was like, that past week I'd been comparing myself with so much girls on the internet and absolutely hating the way I look. Because it's stupid, very stupid. But I wrote that, like, almost like I wanted to put like a fun twist on it and that's why in the end I'm like, she's a catch but so am I. Like we both, like everyone has the same problem. It's like it's not like I looked any different yesterday, I just feel different, I just feel a little bit share today but that doesn't mean I'm any ugly, I like and that girl I see on the internet, that in my opinion is the most perfect human being I've ever seen, probably feels the exact same feelings I do.

1:32:47So, yeah, I decided to write a song about that. Do you ever talk about it with your girlfriends? Oh, all the time. Tell me the conversation. Oh my god. Um, Sophie, well this song in straight in my ass Sophie, because we're just like super toxic together. It's really bad. Um, and like a lot of my other girlfriends like from school, but my other girlfriends, they're just, they're so sure of themselves and they look at them and I'm like, wow, like you really just don't give a fuck. Like I love that. But I think when you're just on your phone and so online, like there's an inevitability of just like seeing a lot of beautiful women or like society tells you this like ideal version of what you should be and that is not true.

1:33:31The filtered version? Yeah, 100%. They're filtered, posed like version. Ringlight version? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Um, and we'd like sit there and talk about it at the ages and be like, oh, oh, I just want to like like this, like I want to die in my hair, blah, blah, and that the end of it just like that conversation just like didn't help with anything. Like we just sat and complained. And it's got on way better. I feel like this was, you know, before a lot of things had happened in our lives. So we were just still like, like we still felt very young. I feel like a lot of things had happened in the past year that made us grow up like that.

1:34:07Yeah, you ever not look? Oh, recently I definitely haven't cared. I think it was, I think it's because I'm busy and I'm too busy thinking about a lot of other things right now about this album, about releasing this album. It's because that they were after showing me a lot. I had a lot of time off. I had Christmas and then he went holiday and like just chilling at home. They went out a lot. He went out partying and yeah, drank too much, got really sad. A lot of the times could paired myself to a lot of people. And yeah, I just felt so over myself and I was like, what am I doing? I just made one of my favorite things ever.

1:34:51The coolest dude ever. And why am I sat and crying over some stranger? Are you joking? And I realized it was so stupid. And then I was like, I've got the perfect song for this. What was crazy is that? And like on my way to like all my lessons, like ballet, whatever. And I could listen to anything on Spotify, but I'd always, there's always a song for the mood I'm in. And this was after we made the records. We had this link and I was like, there was so many times I need to listen to cruel effects. I need to laugh about this situation. Or like, I want to listen to beaches because I miss Shangri -la so much.

1:35:30And like there was always a song for something which I why I love this show. That's beautiful that your own songs can be therapy for you even after the fact. Oh yeah. It's like I need reminding. Yeah. Like especially with like take a bite like every time like me and take like get a thing around like, oh my god, I feel like I'm spiraling again. I mean listen to take a bite and we're like, oh there you go. That's why I'm smiling. I'm like, they should acknowledge why I'm being annoying. What's next? I'm post.

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1:38:37Do you still write letters? No, but I used to. I used to get those letters written to me. That song is interesting because it was like a mashup of all the experiences I had. I had about breakups. I wanted to encapsulate everything I've learned and heard into this song. It's not a storyline that I've experienced word by word, which is quite different with my other music. Which is cool. And then, sonically, what I love about the songs I remember writing it, I found a tuning that I really liked. I was just fizzling with the little tuning heads. I can't remember. It's written down somewhere. And then it literally consists of two fingers just going up and down the neck, which I think is cool because it's just the simplest thing ever.

1:39:36In those moments when you're messing around on the guitar, do you know what's a song when a melody comes or might you just like the music? It's interesting you say that because I went to the studio with just the chords because I just really liked the chords. They were so open and sometimes it starts off like that. And sometimes it takes me a while to finish that song. It took me a while. It took me a bit to finish that song. But you liked the chords. You just didn't know yet what the vocals were going to do. It wasn't really like I knew the melody. It was more the lyrics. But I love the openness of like open tuning.

1:40:13So much that you can sing any melody in it all while. What do you reading habits like? I read a lot about cats.

1:40:27My favorite book is If All Cats Disappeared from the World. And it's translated from Japanese. If you've got who wrote it. But it's an amazing book about a man who has cancer and he gets visited by the devil. And he's like if you want to live, you have to get rid of something in the world. And he gets rid of phones, he gets rid of everything. And then it comes down to cats and he's like wow. If All Cats Disappeared from the world, it would make such a difference. But if I, one single person has no family disappeared from the world, it would make no difference. And then it just makes you, the book almost made me like appreciate a lot in life.

1:41:06And like not only just cats, but everything and how important the simplest things are. But yeah, that's honestly like my favorite book and the other book I've read is another book about cats. Yeah. When did you get your cat tattoo? Before I actually owned cats, I got this tattoo. Wow. I got it on tour. I don't know why I like cats so much. So you always have, has it always been? I love cats. I loved red pandas a lot. I had like a red panda Instagram account where I like, I'd edit my face on like red pandas. And like I'd like post pictures of red pandas and like post red panda facts. And then, and I still love red pandas.

1:41:48It's just like cats were always such like I was never really allowed pets growing up. So I lived in a council estate and they didn't really let you have dogs or cats. And so as soon as I was actually, as soon as I got back from the tailor tour, the tailor's have to shake, surprise me with a litiginja cat. And they called him Kim. She knows like he can't be alone. We need to get his sister. So the next day I got his sister called her Miso. And the rest is history. Did they sleep in bed with you guys? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We think about this all the time. We're like, you know, one day we're going to have kids like where the cats can sleep.

1:42:27And he's like, oh, where's the cats going to sleep? I'm like, on the bed, like still, like everybody will be in bed with us. Yeah, family bed. Exactly. Like, and we've got such a big bed as well. I like to imagine like a baby three cats at that point, hopefully four. I would have more. And a dog. All in bed. Perfect. And what do we have left? We've got four more. This next one is about this place. Just to get. Yeah.

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1:45:06I'm going to have to go. So, thank you for coming. Thank you for taking care of me. I'm afraid of fall down But I understand the coming outcome Freaking up the final win Can't help it Can't help us Days blend the one when one's the right beat Chairs and the walls pain and white They tell me all the same There's no way for all the time Just to do what you feel in Cause I'm sure I'm out I'm sure That's my thing So cool Tell me the story Well I actually was the one song I didn't write at home So it was the last song I wrote for this record And it was literally like a week before we had to leave And I was like we have to send my house Squeezes into the album And they wrote it about being nervous about doing this Like doing this whole experience And going all the way to Malibu To record this album Cause I had never made a record out of London before It was always in like the comfort of the city I lived in And with the people I would always hang out with So this was a new world for me And I was basically shitting myself And I got here and I realized wow Like I would have been stupid if I didn't go fully in And there's a lyric like one of my favourite lyrics And on the whole record is don't wait for the tide Just to dip both your feet in And I think it just encapsulates Like if you get an opportunity like this Don't do it half fast Like put your all into it It has a California sound too Something about it maybe the harmonies I'm not sure Yeah it's all like I haven't written a rock song in a while On standard tuning And I feel like And like cause I always tune my guitars in a different way And like with this song it felt It just feels so natural to play And almost like effortless And it's by far my favourite song off the album And when I listen to it like literally transports me back here Beautiful Yeah I love to see it works What else was next?

1:48:27Everything I want Ready?

1:48:43Good and list all of the reasons You're everything I want Falling more in every season You're everything I want I'm everything I want And you are Now I see The weather's got me down Like the sun you come around I have finally figured out You were just around the corner Oh such a pretty sign I'm just around the corner Like the moon Trying to do everything is done Out of all the silly feelings People can't say what they ever say Cause you're everything I want And I don't need another thought Now I see The weather's got me down Like the sun you come around I have finally figured out You were just around the corner As the light shone on my face Like the sun I almost taste And it stayed with me for days I'm a hopeless forever Your eyes such a pretty sign I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do it all in this time I love how effortless the vocal sounds I think I think of all the songs in the album I think that's where my vocals are the best Yeah it just feels effortless Yeah thank you I think that's one of my other favorites That song because it's just so I love the honky tonk piano I think it's so playful and really sweet And it matches the meaning behind the song It's just like I Like I'm always going to wear my heart My sleeve and I am just like I love being in love Sort of passing Yeah I love it What's next?

1:52:12Man you left too soon And it stayed with me for days I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done I'm trying to do everything is done At least you look at the same old I wish I met the man who has left too soon It's another one that feels like It's another one that feels like It could be a musical theater piece It can be a musical theater piece There's a little personality in this song Did it come from a real...

1:54:10Looking at the moon story Looking at the moon story Tell me Tell me I think it's I think it's I think it's I think it's like family death. Like I've never ex, like I had a couple of family members that died but I was very young. So my boyfriend's dad died a couple years ago and watching how that affects people was very eye -opening experience and like it made me really grateful to have my parents and I wrote this about his dad. And I was thinking about death and thinking about how you remember someone and I always thought like the moon is all it comes, it comes about to the same place on the sky every night and it's comforting knowing that somewhere out there you're looking at the same moon whether it's like even when I'm miles away from tour on tour and my parents are back home they go at least we're looking at the same moon and then it's the same concept when you think about you know someone who's passed like at the end of the day they're always around somehow and he just sounded like an awesome guy like the coolest guy ever and I wish I had met him and you know what's funny with this song is that I you know I played it to my boyfriend and he played it to his family and I was like you know like just like are you guys comfortable with me singing about this whatever and what I found so interesting was that his dad before his part before he passed he painted moons he painted the even painted the moon for Jake his sister his brother and his wife amazing did you know that when you wrote song yeah so cool yeah it seemed like an awesome guy all his he was an amazing artist and a lot of his paintings are hung up on that house so beautiful and what else do we have this is the last one this is how it went so it's like the closing of the record scared to speed finding words for an email to you try to see through the herd to find a snuck on my shoe well just move on and let me ride a song like all the songs I love to listen to riding because I'm healing never writing songs to hurt you using one and best at an amp you do the same show me a movie before planning on something to say and turned off the TV and I laid in my bed a sand thought was filthy listening to Elliott raining songs he did the same about situations but it been just the same you had to make it off the us welcome just let me ride a song like all the songs I love to listen to riding because I'm healing never writing songs to hurt you using one and best at an amp you do the same sure maybe i'm not I'm planning on something to say And you messed up Don't buy yourself And I sat right here secretly Try to help And I did my best And you never know Your short side is factions For you just a glowed And it was my song Oh just the song You made it worse just by singing along Just keep busy Or make a movie And don't stick to writing My songs can't get tired Don't speak Oh please let me go To sleep can't get tired Don't wanna speak Oh please let me go To sleep can't get tired Don't wanna speak Oh please let me go To sleep can't get tired Don't wanna speak Oh please let me go to sleep Charming song Thank you I love it How did that one come?

2:00:01Oh Oh It's very honest I can say that I think you know it's the end of the album For a reason Because at the end of the day With my music Everything I write about As much as it Helps writing These songs How much it helps my brain I'm writing it because it Either Deeply Deeply heart me Or made me made That made me really really happy Because there's always a really strong emotion And with this one it was Very deep sadness And a lot of confusion And a lot of just like Life and inevitability And just like this is This is what happens Like this is what it Takes to be a musician Like I am going to write What I wanna write about And when I put it out in the world Then so be it what happens Like it's not Really my song anymore And you know a lot of things That happened in the past year Where I felt like I couldn't do that And I felt like I was I wasn't allowed to do what I love to do And when I meant to be doing And yeah Made me feel really strange Like I look at I quote Elliot It's merely say that I was sat in bed listening to Elliot Writing songs He did the same about situations And it's like All my favorite artists They do that Taylor Swift Every one of her songs About makeup Song is like I felt like I was Yeah like it was a bad thing I did that And it was weird And it was It's strange because I put out my This breakup song called The Way Think Is Go And it was almost out my hands And And There was so much attention on The wrong side of it Because Someone put attention to it Like it was just a song It was just a song For people to relate to And it was You know And you were singing your truth And yeah That's all it was It's okay There's no right or wrong It's just Yeah This is my experience Yes And I think that There's a lyric in that song where it's like Just go make a movie And I'll keep writing my songs It's like R is R And like You express yourself With R And that's what I do With music And Yeah That song Every time I hear it Like I posted this thing on it My close friends It's like Listening to the bridge On this is how it went Which is the song name Is like Self -harm It's like The bridge is so good It's made the best part of the song Yeah I love the bridge It's so honest But it's so triggering And it's still And it's something That I have to talk about And therapy a lot Because I feel like I I've spoken a lot of stuff That happened in my childhood And you hear in the music And this album Where I feel like I'm coming to time To what happened And I understand it And And how it doesn't really affect my relationships Anymore Because I'm acknowledging I'm either acknowledging it Or Finally accepting Everything I had been through And you know This situation that happened to me And how this song was born Is something that I'm still Trying to understand Because I had blamed myself For years And so It's something that I'm Still trying to figure out When you listen to it Is if you're scarier Does it give you a sense of freedom It definitely gives me a sense of freedom I think it's scary Because it Just because it It's so specific And it says things It like Something like I remember that day A lot of things that happened in that day And as soon as I got back To my hotel And I wrote this song So it was word for word Everything I Everything I did Everything I felt In that exact moment And it takes me Like features It takes me back To Shangrila With this song It takes me back to that hotel room Yeah But that's the Power of Getting to put it into a song Yeah Instead of slitting your wrists Exactly I would like to see the beauty of it Exactly It's like you're getting it out Exactly Like instead of feeling anger Yes And feeling Sadness towards a person Or putting a blame onto someone You're just Expressing it Through something positive And something And people will be thinking Exactly So there is You know That's the positive side of it And that makes me happy That's enough for it It's to make me happy How many do you do your job?

2:04:33Exit is my job It's exactly your job It's the bills Yes Like Against the cat It probably saves your life Exactly It's my job It's what people do But I also can't help doing it Yeah I feel like you would do it either way Yeah It seems that way Yeah Thank you so much for talking To me I love singing Yeah you do Yeah it's always so nice Yeah I used to come back here again And Sleep there Are you looking forward to Um Playing the songs live Oh god yeah Do you have any gigs booked? I've got two nights at the Greek In LA Wow When's that Um Sometime at the end Like September And November Amazing I'm doing like UK and Europe as well Have you ever been there at the Greek Where have you played there?

2:05:21I played there once It's great It's awesome My favourite show It's a great place to see a show too Like for the audience It's one of the best places to see It's beautiful you see everything right And all the trees around Very beautiful places It's such a good venue And I was like Your late turn to get me to play In another Another venue And I was like It has to be I'll play the Greek twice Yeah If I get to play the Greek again But you should come You should come here I will A whole stage design thing Beautiful It's cool Everything is starting again It's very Scary A lot of like I've been talking about the album so much And like Playing the album to loads of people And it's just It's all feeling very real And it's quite scary What's the most interesting thing Someone has told you back When you played them something Um I was interested Well I got a text message the other day From a good friend of mine And he said Listening to the album was like That scene in Ratatouille When he like It's It's like the Lausagne And he takes him back through time Yeah And I never tasted anything so good before Right And I thought that was really cool I thought that was sick Cool All right Shall we wander?

2:06:34Yeah This is You You You