Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Jack Kruse

29:15So the gentleman who actually was the cardiovascular surgery to do that was John Oshner. That's the son of Alton Oshner. And J .O. was a Southern, he was a pretty quirky guy, but he was pretty chatty. And one of the questions that I had after my first two years at Charity Hospital, what started all this is Oliver Stone film JFK, my intern year. So I was in the emergency room when they filmed that movie. So this is the reason why all this stuff percolated up. So I go to Oshner. And one of the villains in that movie was Ferry. Right. Who had worked in that lab? Right. But it had a lab in his own house.

30:02Well Ferry was the most interesting one that ties to your Fauci book. And that's the reason I asked you, did your dad ever tell you anything about the death of Ferry? Because one of the things you know about your uncle's death that I always found amazing is that the only place that anybody ever came to trial was in the Orleans because of the Clay Shaw link. Because of Jim Garrison. Right. But Jim Garrison went after Shaw and not Oshner. He knew about Oshner. And I don't know if you know that. That's part of the reason why I really want to discuss this with you because when Ferry was killed, your dad actually called you know, Ferry was just from the movie.

30:50He was a pilot trained in the air national guard in Louisiana with Lee Harvey Oswald. When Oswald was very young. I think he started training as a pilot when he was 16 years old on the North Shore of Louisiana. And then Ferry became a pilot for the Eastern Airlines. Yeah, but he was a pilot for the CIA doing gun running to Cuba. And when Jim Douglas's book The Hunts of the Equival, he was the pilot who was in Dallas on November 22nd when my uncle was killed and was allegedly transporting people you know some of the people who were involved including some of the people who were involved in my uncle's death.

31:37I know that. Yeah. And so and he was also involved with Dr. Ashwell. He had kind of a satellite lab at his own house. And when he was killed or died. Well, that's the funny part. Your dad calls. Yeah, to add to that. Yeah, I remember that my father called the coroner to try to figure out whether it was an accidental death or a natural death or whether it was suicide. A lot of this stuff you know, I'm reaching back for for years. He was an interesting guy because he was a very strange looking man because he when he had a alopecia and alopecia. So he painted a black thick eyebrows on himself and he had a very weird bad bad to pay.

32:27And he was part of this of the gay mafia in New Orleans, which was also part of that Cuban underground that was linked to the mafia. There were three mob families. Traffickingty who was from Telehazi, Giancana who was from Chicago and Colors Marcel who was the New Orleans Dallas boss. And he was I think he was he was a Libyan or Algerian. Correct. And my father actually had him deported repeatedly once he had him deported barefoot to the jungle in Guatemala. And he was in a jury trial that my father was you know trying to the day that my uncle was killed. He was on trial. All those bosses my father was prosecuting.

33:23They had all been involved with the casinos in Havana. And so when Bill Harvey who was the head of the Miami station recruited they wanted to get somebody to kill Castro. They went to the mafia. They went through a a mobster called Gianni Razzelli who then became liaison to the three big families. And they then you know all became and involved in training with the Cubans. First for the Bay of Pigs and then later on for in oh these were the people who were involved in present Kennedy's death. And just you know Ferry was one of the pilots that was involved in the Bay of Pigs. He was actually shot down.

34:07So that's the reason why he was anti -Canadie because he didn't get the air support. The other big part of the story is how does a guy who's a defraught priest fired from Eastern Airlines wind up working with the best cancer researcher in the world in Mary Stewart. Who was the person that put this together? Well Jim Garrison had the pieces. The key piece was Clay Shaw was one of the Neocons that worked with the CIA who had a direct link. And this is the really interesting part of this. When Ferry was killed his dad calls Nick Chetta. Ferry called up and said you just killed me. Correct. He called up.

34:52I think Garrison released his name. He did. And he called up Garrison and he said you just killed me I'm a dead man. And the next day he was dead. Natural causes. So wild. Yeah I mean the best book on this I don't know if you've read it but it's called The Unspeakable by Jim Douglas. I think the two that I brought you today I think you're very good. Those are very good but Douglas is in a different realm. I've read the both those books. Sorry. Yeah and Douglas is in a utterly different realm. He is an extra every word is documented. And what he's done you know the Warren commission have very very little data available.

35:34Since then there's been probably a million pages of documents released and many of the people who are involved in my uncle's death have made confessions. Probably 20 of them. Oh and that none of that was available in the 64 during the Warren commission and none of it was available in the 79 during the House elect assassinations committee. Investigations which was much more thorough than the Warren commission. The House select assassinations committee concluded that it was conspiracy and that Bob Blakey who was the chief council that commission believed that it was probably that it was a more mob than CIA but later retracted has since retracted and as says that he is convinced that there was CIA involvement.

36:23So all of the other 20 people admitted that they were part of it. Yeah I mean people like E Howard Hunt who was one of the plows in the who admitted being in on the initial planning stages. He didn't admit involvement in the end. He said I was there with Bill Harvey and I wasn't I didn't he said he didn't want to get involved because Bill Harvey but he set the plan with that plan to add evolve into my uncle's assassination. David Morales who is the chief headman for the CIA. He did the operation. Phoenix program after my uncle's death killed 25 ,000 people I believe in Vietnam and he was later you know and then and then he later died under mysterious circumstances.

37:20He died. You don't find that to recurrent theme. It's an unbelievable fact that we're still living in this numb propagandized environment. It's because it's effective. You know also you know it was illegal. The CIA to propagandize American people. That was in its charter. It's an act called the Smithmont Act. It was illegal. And then they admitted it you know when it came out in the church or in the church. They admitted it and they you know a lot of articles that were very alarmed and critical of it. And so the CIA at that point promised that they would stop doing that. They remained today admittedly the largest funder of journalism worldwide.

38:08So they pumped $10 billion through USAID to fund newspapers, newspaper journalists, television, etc. They own television stations, they own newspapers in all of the developing world and in Europe and they control them. They're the biggest funder journalism in the world under USAID. But in 2016 Obama changed the issue in executive order that appears to overrule the Smithmont Act and allowed the CIA to once again propagandize American people. So today you know you're seeing all these and we've done articles that show the elevation of people who are clearly part of the national security state to run major magazines and newspapers including the Daily Beast, Salon, Slate, Rolling Sun, Guy, who now you know Rolling Sun was the counterculture magazine.

39:19And it's now run by a guy called Noah Schlackman, the unwetter was pushed out Noah Schlackman, now runs it and he has deep you know, credentials and background in a national security state. And so then you see the reporting and plays like National Geographic, Scientific American, a lot of them you know pressed with it has kind of foreign orientation will you know is run but you'll see that they were all you know, COVID alarmists, they were all very promising you know dismiss of any any kind of questioning and and they're all pro -war pro -Ukraine you know but any war that they're they're pro so you can see these kind of propaganda threads that dominate those news organs and you know we've done a series of articles showing the you know the links between those magazines and the and the national security apparatus.

40:23The propaganda is a huge problem. Yeah you know both in centralized medicine but also in what you've been doing you know as an environmental lawyer but now running for president so I'm gonna ask you a question a lot of big corners want me to ask you it's pretty clear that you know that war is expensive. What do you think the connection between November 22nd 1963 is in 1971 and Nixon moving the gold standard? My uncle is worried about the out currency and you know if he had currency who was invented to fund war. That was its whole purpose and my uncle was worried about it and in just before he died he he tried to reattach our currency to our green backs to a base currency.

41:18So he is gold certificate still for stinking certificate. When I was a kid those were you know you could you could see them and it was kind of through all that you could actually redeem this bill for gold or silver and they I think they only last a year or something after he died but then in 1971 X and D couples you know the current our paper currency from the gold standard and that was sort of the beginning I think you know in many ways the beginning of the end and it was also he did it to fund the Vietnam War. Correct. That's why most of the big corners want to know from you since you're now running for president we have to make decisions.

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43:39We love that you came out for Bitcoin. People want to know how you learned about Bitcoin and was it endoggously because of what happened through your family? I have teenage and 20, 20, 30 year old kids. I heard about Bitcoin. But I became interested in it during COVID because I saw what happened in Canada during the truckers strike. Or you had truckers from all over Canada. It's very, very different. The truckers in Canada are very diverse. There's a lot of black Asian. They later deliberately tried to portray it as a right wing revolt. But it truckers were being ordered to comply with all kinds of mandates, including vaccines.

44:21And they protested and they started a parade of trucks from Alberta and BC all the way across the country and they ended up in Ottawa and the capital. It was a very peaceful demonstration. They just wanted to meet with Trudeau. And if you look at the videos of the demonstration, it was like Woodstock. They were doing garbage pickups. They were doing cookouts and feeding the poor. It was really kind of this very magnanimous, idealistic movement. And there were efforts to betray it as right wing. And in fact, on two occasions, people went in with Confederate flags wearing box -flavoy and military boots.

45:12And the truckers chased them out. And yet that was the picture of the Confederate flags and ended up in the newspaper. So so Trudeau says declines to meet with them and says they're dangerous at their right wing. And he then does something that I had warned about a few months before I had gone to Milan and I had read about what was happening with central bank digital currencies in China, where they had now programmable currencies, which means that if you fall below a certain score on your social credit score, you get punished. So if you didn't have a mask on over your nose during a mandatory mass day, you'd be seen on facial recognition systems which are everywhere in China.

46:03They deduct from your social credit scores or if you get too close to your girlfriend during a social distancing day, they penalize you. And the way they penalize you is that your credit card won't work anymore except within made grocery stores within a certain radius of your whole let you get on airplanes, won't let you get on the subway, or any. I'm going to buy gasoline for your car, I'll let you get on some ways or anything else. And so it exists now, you're saying. It's a challenge. That's a challenge. But about a month before Canada, I was in Milan and they were doing vaccine passports and they were imposing them and I said, the second that you allow them to do that is the vaccine passport has all your medical records, but it has other things like you can have your financial records, etc.

46:50I said, the second that you do that, every right that you have suddenly becomes a privilege that is contingent upon your compliance with a government mandate. And I said, here's how they're going to enforce it. They're going to give you a social credit score. It sounds paranoid, but I said, that's what they're doing in China. So don't let them do it here. And then a month later, the in Canada, Trudeau then has all these truckers, they, you know, the Nuttamabin charge, but they use facial recognition system and they use surveillance systems to get the license plates on their cars, on their trucks.

47:26They know they are and they freeze all their bank accounts. It's illegal. I mean, because not in Canada, they change the law. Yeah, they change the law. Because of this happening, Trudeau actually invoked something to allow this to go on and the craziest part is the rest of the people in the legislature allowed it to go on. And these guys use Bitcoin to survive this event. That's the point. Not only that, but they collected on PayPal, they collected millions of dollars from a fund from people all over the world. I said 20 bucks. It's like a go fund me and PayPal froze it and confiscated it. Has that ever happened before?

48:08No. So I at that point, I understand what centralization, why it's a problem. I immediately saw with a lot of clarity at transactional freedom is as important of freedom of expression because if the government can starve you to death, freedom of speech becomes irrelevant. If they can take your mortgage, if they can put you and your children on the street, if they can put, I mean, I had one of these truckers tell me that he couldn't pay his album on me and the police were coming after them. So he, you know, because Trudeau had frozen his bank account, he was now in jeopardy of losing his freedom altogether.

48:49And at that point, that's when I said, okay, you know, Bitcoin is a way because they were also, if you remember, or in COVID, they started to say, oh, paper currency is red germs. And the ATMs started disappearing in a lot of countries. They took away the ATMs. I could see they're trying to shift us to, you know, all digital currencies, you know, and the tradition what you really want. That's the goal. And the reason why I'm glad he's talking about this is because, you know, in the Bitcoin community, people say, well, we think Bobby Kennedy just is learning about Bitcoin from David Bailey. And I said, I don't think that that's the case.

49:30I want to ask him directly, not only how this ties to his family, what happened in 63, 71, but this is - That's the David Bailey. David Bailey is a big Bitcoiner. Well, I'm glad that you're saying that too because that makes me even more happy because it sounds like you came to this endogenously and realize that this is an abridged to freedom. And you - Yeah. The question I have for you is, do you think that some of the recent current events that have just shown up because of scientists that showed there's a problem with the vaccine with SV 40 in it with DNA plasmas when that stuff wasn't supposed to happen.

50:14And when you consider some of the legalese that was in the - the emergency authorization, I'm concerned that the things that happened in that lab with David Ferry, the exact same things that they did before we knew about how molecular biology worked. They used a linux to create small little pieces of DNA and SV 40 to concentrate something. And it's beyond me how now we know because of Kevin McEarnin and because of Philip Buckholz, two guys who probably - you would have fought against in the last 10 or 15 years, now have shown beyond a shout -out that the same thing that Mary Stewart and Saras Stewart wrote in the treaties that was found that David Ferry died.

51:03That's the smoking gun that Garrison had. That - Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know, that book is very compelling, but I don't I don't know. Do you know the story of SV 40? No. So, SV 40 was in the early - about polyvexanes, they were growing the polyavirus on a substrate of a masticated monkey kidneys. African green monkeys. Yeah, they were using African green monkeys. They were also - there's other forms of the vaccine. Stanley Kupinski's was using bot -about chimpanzees, which there's a whole book about that's where the HIV virus made the leap into human beings. But anyway, what they didn't know at that time, because they couldn't - you couldn't see viruses.

51:58You can't find them. You know, they're too small. There was no micro scopes at that time. I'll say remember, DNA was discovered in 53. This is going on in 50 -51 -52. So, the state of molecular biology at that time was what I would call rudimentary. Right. So, what they didn't realize, these monkeys had hundreds and hundreds of viruses, that nobody knew what would happen if they jumped into human beings. And now, and what they - there was a very, very famous scientist who was most award -winning scientist at that time in NIH. I was - I was Bernie S. Eddie. And I think she actually knew Mary Stewart.

52:40No, not only did she know her, that - you're making me very happy, Bobby, because guess what? The fact that you know Bernie's, because I'm going to tell you the guy Kevin McKeeernen, and I just told you about, yeah, I tweeted at him yesterday, I said, when I talk to Bobby tomorrow, I'm going to make you as famous as Bernie S. Eddie, because her career was destroyed for telling the truth. She's the one and he'll know this - this story better. I don't mean to interrupt you, but I get excited when you you get right there. Marcus Hilliman, who was a leading researcher for Merck, gets all the credit.

53:15He invented that, MMR Vax, and he gets all the credit, though, for this story that Bobby is laying out. And Joe, just to tell you, kind of briefly what it is, she discovered that there were the virus, there's all these viruses in it. And one - My 1055. Right. And one of the viruses, they were - she called them simian viruses. So SV, and the 40th one she discovered was a virus that was extraordinarily oncogenic, and it was a carcinogenic. It didn't cause cancer in the African -Grey monkeys, but today, out of 2023, anytime SV 40 is in another vector, it causes cancer. Yeah, in fact, they use it in laboratories that are studying tumors.

54:04They use it to induce tumor growth. So you give it to a guinea pig and it will sprout tumors like a mushroom field. You know, it's the most - it's the most carcinogenic stuff that they know of. At least that when I was looking at it, it was absolutely sturdier. Why was this research happening in the 50s? What were they trying to do? Well, they were making polio viruses on the substrate, so the way that you grow a vaccine - Why, though? That the death of the night make vaccines. When you mass produce a vaccine, you need to grow the culture, and you have to grow it either on human tissue, which is hard to get, and you know, legal problems and ethical moral problems.

54:46Or you can - and also there are disease problems, because if the human has a disease, it could get in, you know, the vaccine is not pure. A lot of that monkey material is getting into the vaccine, and the viruses were getting into the vaccine, and Bernice, at a right before they distributed the vaccine, there was 98 million doses about to be distributed. She goes to her boss and I hate to say, you can't do it, because it's filled with this carcinogen that's going to give everybody cancer. She injected - just so you know, she injected the monkeys with the cutter vaccine, and they got polio, but here's with the story.

55:27That is kind of another part of that story. Let me tell you the part that I want you to hear. So, guests who is a big investor in cutter pharmaceuticals, Alton Asher. So, what did he do? He got the entire medical staff in 1951, in the amphitheater, brought his two grandchildren in, and injected his granddaughter and grandson - and the grandson died of polio five days later, and then guess what, the granddaughter got polios who survived. So, who tells me this story is John Asher, the guy that I told you before? It's an unbelievable story. Where goes Eddie reports this to her bosses at NIH, and they ignore her.

56:09They tell her to shut her mouth. Wow. There was so much publicity at that time that they had this vaccine that was going to eliminate polio, and it was, you know, there was like a freight train or an engine that they could not stop at this point. They said, no, we can't put the brakes on this thing. So, she then kept her mouth shut, but then about six months later, she was at a New York Academy of Science meeting. She went to a conference of scientists, and she, you know, was so frustrated at that conference, which was an insider's group. He told them, and NIH went berserk. They moved her to the basement.

56:57They took away her laboratory. They took away her telephone, and they told her that she was not allowed to talk to anybody without permission from the NIH bosses. And, you know, she really... She was scrubbed from scientificism. Yeah. But so was the people that worked with Rennies. And by the way, our generation, which, you know, I'm 69, how old are you? 60. Yeah. So, my generation was that baby blue generation. We all got that vaccine this year, and, you know, I think the soft tissue cancer, which the cancers that it causes are 10 times what they were in the previous generation, from my generation.

57:38All these, you know, breast cancers, colon cancers, et cetera. And in many of those cancers, in the tumors, they find us V40. Wow. So, Rick, think about this. Who was the first head of the National Cancer Institute? Alton Asher. Who was one of his best friends, Richard Nixon? Who declared the war on cancer? 1971. Richard Nixon and Alton Asher in the back seat of a Lincoln Continental. I told you I had the picture of it, right? So, you asked Bobbie a question earlier. How and why? Alton Asher knew that he caused a huge problem. So, what was the solution? To go find the two best scientists in the world that could somehow figure out how to and activate SV40.

58:23What was the idea? To go get an off covert ops through the four congressmen, I told you about Louisiana, Hal Boggsme and one of them, and they got a Hill Burton grant for Oshner to get a Linux. The Linux was put in the basement of the US public. The Linux is a linear accelerator, which is one of the most complex and expensive these emissions. Even today it is, but just so you know, Bobbie. And it was put in a US public health hospital across the street from children's hospital on Henry Clay Boulevard. Makes no sense. Well, it makes a lot of sense when you understand the story that I want you to understand and how I came to know this stuff and why I came out so hard and heavy against COVID, you know, before the vaccines in 2020.

59:18When I told all my members, if you take this, you are going to have a problem down the road because I felt and I've been vindicated now that the same things that happened in that underground lab on magazine street and at the US public health hospital would show up and cut our 2 .0, which is what we're living through right now. And guess what? Kevin McKeeernan was the first guy who did what Bernie said he did. He said, look, just so you know, he's the guy that worked on the human genome project. He's a molecular biologist, very, very good guy. He now works in the cannabis industry doing molecular biology for them.

59:56He happened just to take some expired vials, decided to check it. And he found the DNA plasmids, which shouldn't be in there, according to all the... For the SA -40, right? ...and regular DNA plasmids. And he reported it. So who got on his case? This guy named Philip Buckle, who is a huge geneticist from the University of South Carolina. So they got into a Twitter war and Buckle said, I'm just going to cut to the chase and prove this asshole wrong. So he does the same things, takes the same vials and finds exactly the same result. The reason I'm concerned now, because I made the... What is Buckle's dead?

1:00:39Does he come clean? Oh, he's an academician who's totally part of the vaccine lobby. But guess what? Now he's confirmed the modern -day Bernie said he's finding. So now where we are, and I know you've been busy the last couple of weeks, this is the latest current events going on in this world. Yeah, I saw references to it, but I haven't that they've now found it. They've found it. And the reason why this is interesting... These contaminants, and well, why don't you explain what they are? What the DNA plasmid is. And I want to go back to really what... Sarah Stewart, Mary Stewart, and the linach meant for this.

1:01:21Why did Oscar get in this game? He was trying to solve a problem that he caused. So he thought by radiating these viruses a good idea. Sarah Stewart was the smart, smart smart one. She went to medical school at the University of Chicago with Sarah Stewart, and she was the first one that ever came up with the idea that viruses caused cancer. Everybody in the NIH at that time thought she was batch at crazy, so they put her to the side until the stuff of polio showed up. Then she gets reassigned from the NIH to the US Public Health Hospital where Mary Stewart is there. So what is Sarah Stewart? Because Sarah Stewart wrote the recipe of how the science has done.

1:02:03Jim Garrison found that in David Ferries apartment when he was dead. Okay? Sarah is the Einstein who is the theoretician to figure this out. Mary Stewart was the experimenter. She is the one that was trained in nuclear physics at the University of Chicago. She know how to use a linach. So what did Oscar do with the help of the people in the government? Remember, these are the people Russell Long who used to be UEP Long's son is a prominent senator. Elender, Hale Boggs, there's all four. They controlled the entire military budget. And one of the guys get fried in that linear accelerator. That's the story that I'm going to get to, Bob, because guess what?

1:02:50Who got fried? It was Mary Stewart. Yeah, that's right. And Mary Stewart gets fried. Why? Because what was the goal? Explain getting fried. Well, we're going to get there. But there's parts of this that you need to get. I remember reading about it, but it's not a good thing to walk into. No, there was a guy literally. There was a guy that actually built linear accelerators. His name was Nygarde. And he happened to walk in front of one and he completely disintegrated. Like he had no body left. But here's where the story gets interesting. So what did Oscar do? He gets the people to give him a hillburt and grant.

1:03:25Hale Boggs is one of those guys. They buy this machine, put it in the US Public Health Hospital, reassigned Sarah Stewart, get Mary Stewart from Austin to go over there and then begin to irradiate the SV40 virus to try to kill it. And what did they find experimentally that they actually strengthened it and it became a bio -eapon. So that's unbelievable. No, it's not unbelievable because guess what? We know how it works. Why? Because let's fast forward now to today's scientist. Why did I warn people this was ancient to guys like Buckholz and and McKeehrnan that 7 % of DNA is naturally transmitted from the virus into humans.

1:04:15That's the base rate. When you add an x -ray like the electromagnetic spectrum to the mix, you stimulate DNA repair. So you concentrate the effect. That's effectively what Mary Stewart found. Why doesn't modern day McKeehrnan know this? Bobby probably is already putting this together because this was a covert operation that was never published in the literature. So he has nothing to go back and say why this happened. I'm telling you why it happened because at the time in New Orleans when Oshner saw that he couldn't solve the SV40 problem, he actually saw another way to take care of his Cuban problem.

1:04:58If you make this virus and put it in tobacco or get somebody to inject, guess what? You can induce cancer literally overnight even in humans. And guess what? Ferry, Judith Ferry Baker, Lee Harvey Oswald and Mary Stewart found that it worked. Why did Clay Shaw get put on Trabah Garrison? Why was he the guy? Because the day before Martin Luther King's speech, I have a dream. Clay Shaw drove his black catalog to Clinton, Louisiana with David Ferry and Lee Harvey Oswald, where they transferred a patient from Angola prison to a mental hospital in Clinton, Louisiana. Why did they pick Clinton? Because it's a sleepy little town, mostly black.

1:05:45Nobody would be there. But what magically happened that day to let you know that the orthodoxy behind his uncle and his father's ultimate demise was coming, Lee Harvey Oswald decided to register to vote in the middle of a black town the day of I have a dream speech. And the reason for that is because that's the day they were going to inject the bio weapon into the prisoner. When did all hell break loose? It worked. They brought Judith Ferry Baker up to test the prisoner who got the cancer literally and was dead within two weeks. She went nuclear on Alton, OSHA because she was promised as part of this lab that she would be able to go into Tulane Medical School, get advanced standing because of all the work that she was doing with Sarah Stewart and Mary Stewart.

1:06:34So she takes off. Alton, OSHA says, you're never going to medical school. You're done. Just so you know the timeline here, this is the end of August of 63. The timeline between the people in the book that you talked about before, this was a race. Do we get Kennedy or do we get Castro? Then they knew that they had this weapon. Here was their problem. Do you remember when Lee Harvey Oswald defected to Russia and then went to Mexico and everybody was this seems like the weirdest story. They needed him to defect to Russia so that he could get in to Cuba to deliver the bio weapon. Turns out there was a big flying out of him and that Castro was on top of that.

1:07:17So what happens eventually? The whole lab dissipates, goes away. Six months later after his uncle was killed, Mary Stewart is going back to continue her research and magically the kill switch, there's a huge problem. She grabs it with her right hand, pulls it down. Her right arm is completely disintegrated. Her thoracic cavities exposed underlying organs exposed. This of course makes big news in New Orleans. It's in the time spiky in and the NOPD says that it was a mattress fire that caused this problem. Well, they took her body and put it in there. They moved the body from the US public health hospital to there and here's the thing.

1:08:02Nick Chatter to her apartment and a niche that I had a mattress. Right. And they lit it on fire. They lit on fire but it only half burned and it just was, you know, there was no way that the forensics matched the injury. Yeah, anybody actually I think in that book that you gave me before, I think it was Mary's monkey. The author of that book describes kind of graphically and very interesting that he goes to a lot of crematoriums. And he interviews the people in the crematoriums about what does it take to actually disintegrate a human body and it has to get up to, you know, 100, 2000 C because what's always left is the bones.

1:08:50But remember, and he shows he has no right arm. The bones aren't even there. Right. Yeah, that's right because the crematoriums say and he can't get rid of the bones. They have to grind it up. That's actually what's in your ashes. I mean, people probably listen to this, they're probably like, great. I don't want to know this now. And he looks at the calculate. And he talks to people about what temperature of mattress burns and mattress was just ascended. It wasn't even like properly burnt.

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1:10:40Long story short though, this murder goes down six months after his uncle's killed, but do you know why? Because that she was the only link. What happens in the autopsy, Nick Cheddar, the same guy we talked about, Fairy, does the autopsy on her and finds that there was a surgical wound place between her six -in -a -coastled space. Neither one of you are doctors, but you happen to be sitting next to one. I'm going to tell you that's exactly a kill shot to get into someone's heart. Why was that the case? Because when she got this electricity, she wasn't grounded. I went down to this hospital when I was a resident.

1:11:19There was huge grounding things on either side. That current went straight through her. She was still alive when this injury happened. They transported the reason they had to get rid of her is because she was the hard -linked evidence back to Oshar. That was the thing that I was very concerned about. I didn't tell you this earlier. How did I put all this together? You know who my emergency room nurse was? My first month of residency for Jenny Garrison. She worked in the Echarity Hospital. What is her relationship with Jenny? Jim's daughter. She told me she goes, I know that later in your neurosurgery residency, you're going to go to Oshar.

1:12:05She goes, I want to tell you, be very careful when you go over there. I thought, you know, this was shocking because this is a woman who was just like her dad. She was a bulldog. I'll never forget what she said to me. She goes, just be careful especially with the sons of Alton. That time, Alton Oshar died in 81. He was dead about nine or ten years. And everybody in New Orleans to this day still thinks glowing things about him. But when I got into neurosurgery and I started to realize going down to the basement, the linach move from Mary Stewart, injury, they called the linach eye up to reconfigure the platinum hood.

1:12:43It shows up in the basement of the place I do my residency. Where is it now? Well, I can't tell you where it is now, but it was in the basement I residency when I graduated in the 99. And I can tell you that I used it with the neurosurgeons there to do brain tumor surgery, acoustic neuromers and things like that. The reason I want to bring this up to you is because I had the opportunity to talk to J .O. before he died. And he told me straight up that his dad worked for the FBI, any work for the CIA. And the reason that nobody knew that Tulane University was on par with Harvard, Hopkins, and the Mayo Clinic is because this stuff, the stuff that you wrote about in Fauci's book, about Forti Trick.

1:13:26I want you to know the original lab was on magazine street. And it was in the US Public Health Hospital. It was then transferred to the Yerks lab that I worked at as a resident. And then in the Yerks lab, I happened to work with an anesthesiologist whose dad is the first, really, the first person that ran the Delta primates on our incoming. So hopefully your question that fits maybe this would be probably chapter zero of your Fauci book. Where did all the stuff that Oster and Ferry and Mary Stewart go? It's my belief that it went to the Delta primates center in coming to Louisiana. And that happened in 61, on 64.

1:14:14Where was it eventually transferred to Forti Trick? And that's when Bobby Kennedy's book picks it up. And the reason why I think this is important, Bobby, especially with you running for president now, my belief is if we forget history, we're doomed to repeat it. And I'm seeing it unfold this story that started with your family back in the 50s and 60s is now manifesting right now. And this is how I feel. And I probably shouldn't get political about this, but I'm going to the day your uncle was killed, the heart of the American populace was removed. In 68, when Martin Luther King and your dad were killed, that's when the head and the soul of the country was more injured.

1:15:06I think what you're doing right now, the way you've come to run, this is the heart transplant that American needs right now. It's a travesty, concerning what we've talked about today, what your family's been through and what you've done. I mean, let's face it, you put the target on your back. I will say this, because it's an interest, what you said. This morning, I had a guy come over my fence. That's why I was late getting here. And I would previously sent me a week ago, an email through another person that gave it to me, threatening to put a bullet in my head. And this morning, my security guards saw him come up with a fence and were able to arrest them.

1:15:57That's why I was late coming here. And I mean, one of the issues, I worried about my family, of course. And my wife was doing a Twitter space at the time and watched him come over and then get arrested.

1:16:13But also, it's disturbing to every, it ought to be disturbing to every American, because it's part of this politicization of law enforcement agencies, which we've seen, which is one of the first things my dad did when he got to the Justice Department, was to call all the attorneys into a conference and say there's going to be no political prosecutions here. That we treat everybody the same. And he ended up prosecuting people who he knew well, including his brother -in -law for an unannoted trust issue. So, you know, President Biden has a bus, my father behind him on the Oval Office. But this is something my father felt very strongly about not politicizing the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, the IRS, and it's disturbing that that's happening today.

1:17:17But it is so relevant towards happening, which is really the decline of the Republic. You know, and we know it's going to happen at some point. There's no empire that's lasted this long and actually democracy is such a tiny sliver of the human experience. There's never really been, you know, a democratic government. The democratic government is rarely the human experience. Oh, we know, you know, it's unstable and it's fragile. And we know that it can't last forever, but I don't think any mess was sawed in declining so precipitously. My uncle came into office with a real activity toward war. You know, he immediately encountered the military industrial public and he said that he didn't want African children to, and Latin American children, and Asian children when they heard about the United States of America to think of a man with a God.

1:18:18He wanted to think of a B -score volunteer of the Kennedy Milk Program, which gave nutrition to tens of millions of malnourished kids around the world and the Alliance for Progress and USAID, which he created to put America on the side of the floor to end run the military hunters, the olicarquies, who were hoarding American dollars at that point and instead, you know, put it into actually building middle classes in this country and creating democracy. And then four months in, you know, the big invasion, he was lied to by Dallas, by Richard Bistle, by Charles Kabel, the three top officers of the CIA.

1:18:59And when the men were dying on the beach, which was the lowest point in his presidency, he publicly took the blame for the invasion for that episode, but privately he said to his Aids, I want to take the CIA, shatter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds. Bobby, I don't think a lot of people know how all these pieces all fit together. I cannot believe that the president of this country doesn't have the common sense to protect you irrespective of what the rules and everything I'll say. Just for what your family's been through, we owe it to you as taxpayers. And for him to make that decision, to me is unforgivable, absolutely unforgivable.

1:19:48And for anybody to question you why you're not going to run as a Democrat and you're going to run as an independent, that alone stands as a perfect reason why you need to do it. The key thing is people need to know that freedom is under attack. It's under attack in many different ways. The architects that Eisenhower talked about are now taking pitchforks, chain saws, and nuclear weapons to the pillars of this country. What's in our constitution? And all of us collectively have to come together and say, you know, we're sick and tired of this shit. We need to take the country back. We need to do it's right.

1:20:33We may not always agree on every single issue, but the one issue that we do need to agree about. This country is about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It's in the founding documents. But guess what? John Adams and Thomas Sharerson never thought that the angle of attack to the US Constitution would be Anthony Fauci. And it took 200 years to get there until we get the by -doll act and back it up with the 86 vaccine, people forget. The by -doll act is the act that allowed researchers and NIH to collect royalties on any medical product that they work on. And actually NIH. So it incentivizes that?

1:21:23It incentivizes exactly the pervert. It's a perverse incentive that encourages the regular stretch is supposed to find problems with the product. And you know, you got now, I'll give you an example, the Moderna vaccine is owned by NIH, half of it, half the royalties go to NIH. And and there's six individuals that were hand picked by Anthony Fauci who worked for NIH, who have marched in rights for the patent. So they can get royalties of $150 ,000 a year for the entire, for as long as that product on the market as mRNA vaccines, which will be indefinitely on the market. So they're paying for their houses, their kids education, their boats, with that.

1:22:18And you don't, you know, they now have very little incentive to find problems with that product. Their incentive is to make sure that there's maximum uptake of that product because that maximizes their income. The mercantile ambitions of these individuals and the institution itself, as you can see, will ultimately naturally subsume the regulatory function of the agency, which is to protect public health above anything else. It's not a, it's not a good system. And that all started the by -doll act, which I think is 1984. 1980. And then the 1986 act came in. But the point that I want to add to, to the Sunday, he just built for you, this is the cherry, just realized in the last four months that Anthony Fauci and Collins got royalties over $350 million.

1:23:19Just realized that, and two of them did not get those royalties, people who worked, yeah, but they get to dictate where the money goes. That's right. Tell me your understanding of the medical industrial complex. I don't know whether you'd call it a cartel, but it's a, it's kind of what I would describe as a corrupt merger of state and corporate power. Oh, it's all of these, the unamnitics and mechanisms of what we call agency capture, I wish the regulated industries, the regulator becomes a sock puppet for the industry, it's supposed to regulate. There's a, you know, there's a well -documented phenomena that happens everywhere, kind of, into different accents and agencies all over the world in every state.

1:24:19But it's, it's unsterroids in the United States because there are, you not only have a pharmaceutical industry that's making, that is now the biggest industry in the world, but you also, you have a regulatory agency that are financially tied to the pharmaceutical industry, for example, 50 % of, or 45 % of FDA's budget comes from far amount, which is crazy. It's like, if I, you know, EPA is a captured agency, is captured by oil and coal and pesticides, I'm not by pharmaceutical, but it'd be hard for me to imagine how bad, how much worse EPA would be if, if it got 50 % of its revenues from coal companies.

1:25:12Which is bad. And it was dependent on, you know, on the coal companies making money. When I, I sued Monsanto, you know, we came across emails that show that at the head of the pesticide division at Monsanto for a decade was secretly working for, I mean, the head of the pesticide division at EPA was secretly working for Monsanto and he was taking instructions from them. And, you know, in one point, they tell them to kill a study that's being done by another agency. And he said, that's not even my agency. I'm going to kill it for you, but you've got to give me a gold medal. And the first two cases, they wouldn't let us show that to the jury.

1:25:55The third judge did and that's why we got 2 .2 billion. And that is what brought Monsanto to the negotiating table. That goes on throughout the industry, but what's happening with the public health agencies where C -45 % of the CDC's budget goes to purchasing vaccines and then promoting their uptake. So you don't get promoted at CDC. I find any problems with vaccines, you get promoted by increasing uptake. And that's how your salary, your evaluations, your promotions are all linked to that. And then NIH, which is the FDA CDC and NIH, NIH, as I explained earlier, the people at NIH are actually allowed to collect royalties on the vaccines they work on.

1:26:45NIH is now the biggest incubator of pharmaceutical products. They used to do straight science, but what it does now is it produces new drugs for the pharmaceutical industry and then profits on them. So their regulatory function has become corrupted. And then you have these other very, very troubling ingredients, which is the involvement of the military and the intelligence apparatus in vaccine production, and with other drugs too. But vaccines are a component of every bio -weapon. So, and we started, but we launched a bio -weapons arms race after the anthrax attacks in 2001. And you know, bio -weapons had been illegalized prior to that.

1:27:34But the Patriot Act has a provision in it, and I'll tell you what, what can I tell you a little bit about the history. Please. Okay, you talked about Operation Paperclip. Operation Paperclip was the first CIA project. So it began literally in 1947. The month of the CIA was created. And the first mission of the CIA was Operation Paperclip, which was a project to smuggle, take the Nazi scientists who had worked on missile production, on bio -weapon production, chemical weapon production, and make sure they weren't hanged at at Nuremberg. Because a lot of them had engaged in those, in those endeavors, in creating those they'd use slave labor.

1:28:27And you know, IG Farben, which created this icon B gas that was used to gas, that you use at Auschwitz and the other death camps was the biggest pharmaceutical company. It was a major player in the Third Reich. They were entire trials at Nuremberg that are called the IG Farben trials with their entire executive suite was jailed because they were, I think they had 60 ,000 slaves. And they worked at that 30 ,000 of those. They were also doing a lot of human experimentation and all of this kind of stuff. But they were developing gases and they were developing bio -weapons for the Third Reich. Which during the World War II they didn't use.

1:29:16Japan had a much more extensive program. Under a scientist called Shiro Ishii, who was like the Bengali of Japan. And they had had a extensive bio -weapon program they killed. They used bio -weapons during their war with China, which was happening simultaneously to World War II. And they killed half million Chinese using bio -weapons. They're the only ones really to deploy it on at scale. And they, and so the CIA's job was to go get those scientists, make sure they weren't executed. Give them new names, give them new identities, and then bring them over. Recruit them basically. Recruit them. Recruit them to Fort Dietrich or to, you know, some other biolabs that we had in the United States.

1:30:07So that they could, we could put them to work developing bio -weapons here. Our bio -weapons, we began pouring money in. It was run by George Merck. So the head of Merck rose about recruited him to run it. And it was being run, it was run between 1947 and 1969. You know Stanley Gottlieb, absolutely. It was one of the, you know, really terrible human beings who was running MK -Ulchra programs in Operation Artichoke. MK -Nahelmi MK -D -Trick MK -Ulchra, the MK prefix means mind control. So they were studying, they were using, they were using, obviously, you know, yeah, well, they did everything.

1:31:01They did psychotropic drugs. They did, immunosaturated sensory deprivation. They did all kinds of developing all kinds of poisons, all kinds of torture devices and propaganda. And they were studying at hundreds of universities where they were, you know, pumping money to social scientists at universities to study how do you control human behavior on an individual basis, including how do you create Manchurian candidates, involuntary assassins, and then how do you do a mass control? You know, one of the propaganda techniques that work, if a foreign entity wants to impose control on indigenous cultures, you know, so, yeah, and they were studying all these things for years and those, and those used a lot of chemicals which were tied into Fort D -Trick, which was the big lab that was created around that time.

1:32:01And then, but they were also dosing. They were doing open air. They did over a hundred open air trials where they would try out chemicals. They would, they would dose San Francisco or they would dose some other American city. They could say Lewis. Yeah, the New York City subway systems. That's true. They dose National Airport. The air conditioning system. They were, they were, they were, they were, probably 50 cities, you know, from the beginning, they weren't doing this to control other people. They were developing these to control. They were testing it on America. One, it has the vulnerability of America to a foreign bioweapons attack.

1:32:46That's what they said they were doing. They were, and by the way, it was all being supervised by Nazi scientists. It was really a buzzard. It's so crazy. I mean, Bobby is too much. It's unbelievable. In 1969, they had reached nuclear equivalents. They could kill the entire US population that you said for 29 cents per death, which was better than you could do with a nuclear bomb, with a nuclear bomb. Of that, ear, nixen does the greatest thing that he, he did, which is he goes to Fort D -Trick and he said, we're shutting it all down. The only thing I think he did in his presence, see that was good.

1:33:22They realized that, well, he passed the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, he created EPA. He did a lot of it, keeping his screaming, but he did some good stuff. But what they realized is that they were creating poor man's nuclear bombs that if they could keep them not only on nukes that they were in good shape, because there's only a few people could look for the program. If you develop a bioweapon, you do. The scientists who develop it against, his credentials from publishing. They were publishing what they were doing. They weren't widely read, but they were accessible to anybody who wanted them.

1:34:02They basically gave them blueprints for creating these things in a garage. They realized we're creating things that are going to be used against us, and that can be developed on a busman's budget with nuclear equivalents. Yes. They realized this is a bad thing, and Nixon and Kissinger decided to shut it down, and they unilaterally shut down all bioweapons developments. Right at the time, they were closing for T -Trick, they were destroying all of their stocks. The CIA's, Emily Gottlieb, Cindy Gottlieb, Lenny, and who's this guy who was this really insane scientist, who was one of his principal obsessions was head transplants, which he was doing a lot of unprimates.

1:34:54He was trying. He was trying to... Oh, Rick, I actually have pictures from the Eurick's lab. I actually showed it to him yesterday of the things that I used to see that we would take the skulls off, put the wires in, and do all kinds of different things. People don't realize that this stuff was going on in American universities everywhere. Two Lane was one of the CIA's hotspots, which is why nobody to this day knows that they were on par with Harvard, Hopkins, and Mayo. So, in 69, he says all over, Gottlieb goes in there into the Fortichrick lab and takes the worst cultures that they had, and Smogosam out, and Storesam and Warehouses in New York.

1:35:45And so the CIA maintains a ability to continue to develop these cultures. In 73, thanks to Nixon, basically a hundred countries signed a bio -weapons charter making it illegal to research bio -weapons, et cetera. That shut it down kind of. The CIA was secretly still doing it with Battal, Battal the engineering firm, and they developed an anthrax bomb. They did it all top secret, and illegally. But generally, it was shut down in this country. And then in 2011, we get attacked. And a week later, there's an anthrax attack. And the anthrax is then used as a pretense. It was explained on Saddam Hussein.

1:36:35And it's used as a pretense to go to war with Iraq and to pass the Patriot Act. 45 days. Yeah. Who got who got a head with the anthrax? The two senators who were leading the fight against the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act was taking off the shelf. 9 -11 and ran through Congress. Nobody read it. The only congressman to actually read it was Dennis Kucinich who was, you know, until recently running my camera. Also, you give credit to Barberley. She's the one that voted against it and took a lot of hand. Kucinich voted against it too. So they, um, what the Patriot Act then, the two senators who were sent anthrax with the two guys who were leading the fight against the Patriot Act.

1:37:20Tom Dash, and Leahy. And they, it shuts down Congress. The act passes in record time. You know, nobody's read it. But one of the provisions of the Patriot Act says that the bio -weapons charter is still sans and the Geneva Convention, which you know, made a death penalty for developing bio -weapons still stands. However, no federal officer can be prosecuted for violations of those acts. I like that. Indemifications. So they basically, they got rid of the, the Patriot Act now. What happened, the backstory is the FBI investigates the origins of anthrax, which are, we're already a war with Senaum for, for hitting us with anthrax.

1:38:05And after a year, the FBI determines this was Ames anthrax, highly sophisticated weaponized Ames anthrax. I could only have come from Fort Detrick. How do you like that? Oh, it was, it was, somebody associated with the Fort Detrick, was either me, the Army or the CIA. You were a side job. Right. Was that told? Yeah. So, the Patriot Act, so now they've reopened the arms trade. The bio -weapons arms race, because now Americans, but the Pentagon is worried about launching an arms race, because it is a death penalty. And what if the Patriot Act turns out not to be legitimate, right? You know, usually you can't override a treaty with a statutorily, you know.

1:38:54And so - And so - That means trees and they can be killed - Well, you can be, hey, crack that. Exactly. The Pentagon didn't want to openly start a bio -weapons program, so they began funneling money about $2 billion a year to NIH, specifically to NIAID. And they made Anthony Fauci the lead developer, biosecurity developer, which means bio -weapons developer. It's starting to see where this is all ahead. And he then gets a 68 % raise from the Pentagon. And that's why he was the highest -paid official in American history. He was getting $450 ,000 a year. The president gets $400 ,000. So I think there's 2 .3 million adult employees.

1:39:39He gets - he got paid more than any of them. The reason was because the Pentagon had more than doubled his salary to give him responsibility for bio -weapons development. Now, immediately he opens all these BSL -4 labs in Boston, Galveston, all over the country in North Carolina. And he pays for them out of this money. But then in 2014, three of his bugs escape. High profile escapes. They find leaks. They found a small box. That somebody had left. Unprotected in a lab and a broken box. And 300 scientists, top scientists in the country like Richard Ebert, send a letter to Obama saying, you have to shut down Anthony Fauci because he's going to cause a global pandemic.

1:40:36And Obama declares more to him, shuts down 18 projects of Fauci's. And Fauci responds to that, is to move his operations to Wuhan. And that's how he ended up in Wuhan. And to share the technology, cutting edge technology, when Ben Hu and all these scientists over there, Lin Fapat, the scientists over there who were ultimately responsible for developing the COVID -19, the virus that caused COVID -19 almost 100 % certainly. Tell me about the Monsanto trial.

1:41:25Monsanto, a company that I was fighting since I was young. I mean, I met Rachel Carson at my house when I was a boy. She had written the book. Up until then, the pesticides and the pesticides by most deaths at that time were from infectious diseases that were spread by insects. DDT, it stopped the Larry on its tracks, et cetera, in some of the Japanese wars. So they had won the war against, they had learned now, they were going to win the war against the bugs. And we were going to finally have abundant food, pests would be eliminated, et cetera. And everybody considered the hero until 1961. Rachel Carson published this book that shows Americans and she was a beautiful, beautiful writer.

1:42:22And her writing is like poetry. She was a marine biologist who did not, was born in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, never saw the ocean until she was 22 years old. But she had this gift or conveying complex scientific concepts to the public in lay language and beautiful, poetic lay language. So her book became a world record pest on spring. And she basically showed the public that, you know, although on the outside it looked like pests were being killed, we were all getting killed and our pests were getting killed and the birds were going to disappear. And these pests were actually, you know, critical, are part of the food web for America's songbird population.

1:43:09And that's why the, you know, the title of silence is that we're, you know, the bird songs are going to be a extinguish. She came under attack by Monsanto, which was the manufacturer of TTT, which did the blueprint further, you know, tobacco industry and everything else. How do you know? Every time they referred to her, they would call her a spencer, which was the modern, or the contemporary, uh, pejorative that suggested lesbianism. And so they went after her. She was dying of cancer. And she never rose an offender. So my uncle appointed a commission to study the book and the commission came back and completely vindicated her.

1:43:59And every, they went through every, she had three references for every factual assertion of the book because she knew she was going to be attacked. And she was a very careful scientist. My uncle vindicated her and DTT ended up getting banned in 73. She inspired Earth Day and 70 and 73 DTT has been. Monsanto needs a, uh, a, a new blockbuster flagship product. That time they, somebody had invented, um, glyphosate as a, as a tank to scale, to, to get the corrosion and the calcification out, to spend the rest from the inside of, of, um, you know, storage tanks. And something happened. I mean, there's a simplification of a, of a long story, but somebody throws this stuff out on the, in the yard.

1:44:54And they see all the grasses dead. They say, oh, this could be a good herbicide. And Monsanto, this is time Monsanto needed a new product. So it gives this herbicide. And at the first 20 years, it's applied by men from back, back, our farm workers back, back, so they walk through the corn fields where they see the weed, they spray, give it a little jolt and it dies. I don't have to bend over and pull it up. So it saves time. In 93, somebody sprays it on, on, on, on, this is again, a simplification of the story. You know, somebody sprays it on a weed that doesn't die. And they realize that weed has genetic immunity.

1:45:38Oh, they remove the gene from that weed. They identify it and they put it in a corn seed. And now they've got a, they've got corn called Roundup Reddy Corn, which is immune to, uh, to glyphosate. So now they can fire all the farm workers. They fly an airplane, one guy in an airplane over, saturate the entire landscape with Roundup and everything green dies except the Roundup Reddy Corn. It becomes very, very cheap for the first couple of years before they cause a start loving it. And then would you still call it corn or is it a new thing this round? Well, you can dispute angels on that at the bed, but it is a GMO.

1:46:22It's a GMO. It's a GMO. It's an alien that lives on the planet. Yeah. And, uh, so then in 90 and, and so it quickly gets 85, captures 85 % of the corn market in this country, 99%. And there's all kinds of other problems that go along with it. They own it, you know, and they, you can't, they won't give you seeds for the next year. So you have the buy it from every year and there's all these losses. It's a nightmare for farmers, but they end up becoming getting on that turbo wheel and not being able to get off. Then in nine, in 2006, they discover that glyphosate one, they're, they're, they, by now they have Roundup Reddy Corn, Roundup Reddy Sour, Soy, I think barley, a bunch of other.

1:47:13So now everything's Roundup Reddy, but now wheat. Wheat is where you eat most of it. And your bread, your pasta, you know, your cereal, all this and up. They, Roundup Reddy, so they're on Roundup Reddy wheat, but what they find is that if you spray Roundup on the wheat right before harvest, it dries it out. So if there's a rain storm, a spring rain or a autumn rain, it, uh, you won't get mold on it, which, which mold is a huge rain on farm income? Uh, and so they, they, they tell all the farmers, starts spraying it as a desiccant and they do it. Now what that means is that, um, they, Roundup, that almost all, but not probably 90 percent of the Roundup development sold has been sold between 2006.

1:48:02And now, because that was the biggest years, but now they're spreading it, spreading it directly on food. Because it's right before harvest, this stuff is ready to go to the mill before they were spraying it early in the season, you know, unweeds that, uh, until they couldn't catch up with the corn and then you don't care about the weeds anymore, right? Now, so most of it was getting washed off during the year. Now, they're spreading it right on food and all of it's on that year. You see this burst and, you know, in gluten allergies and, you know, uh, sealeac disease. When you say it washes off the food, where does it go?

1:48:42Well, it goes into the soil and it destroys the soil biome, right? Which is not good. No, so it's not, yeah, so it's not just for anything that's decentralized. In the short term, it destroys what it's destroying, but in the long term, if you wash it off, it's destroying whatever, whatever, which is the basis of the entire food web, but it actually goes in our ground water and eventually into our waterways. Yeah, it has, it has, it doesn't have, let me put it this way and enduring half life. Oh, it's not like atrozen or PFOA's that once they're in your water, they're yours. Those are the forever chemicals.

1:49:22Yeah. Can you explain what forever chemicals are? The forever chemicals are chemicals that, I mean, PFOA is the most notorious one. I've litigated on that too. They made a film about my lawsuit called Dark Waters with Mark Ruffalo on that suit, but you know, they don't, your body cannot process them. The molecules just are bio -acumulate and they cause all kinds of problems in fluke, a lot of them are endocrine disruptors, but they're carcinogenic. You know, the atrozen is the worst endocrine disruptor. You know, it literally, you know, there's this very famous experiment where this guy, Dr. Tyler, I forget what his last name is, but you can look at Google and he took 27 male frogs and put them in aquariums with water that was contaminated with atrozen at levels that were below the EPA permissible rate for drinking water.

1:50:28This is water that could be in the drinking water supply. Yeah, the EPA, there would be no trigger if up until that, the public water supply, has no duty to tell you that it's in there because it's not at a danger level. Okay. And what happened to the frogs? Of the 27 male frogs. Twenty of them became sterile. Seven of the males turned female and were able to produce fertile eggs. Oh, you know, it sounds incredible, but I, all you have to do is just Google the 27 male frogs. The first name of the scientist is Tyler, I forget, but anyway, it's a well known science. I mean, we've known about it for a long time, and it's a huge problem.

1:51:18So, is that one of the things that you fought against? Yeah, atrozen, who makes atrozen what's it used for? For pharmaceutical company, but do you know what it was used for? Yeah, it's a pesticide pesticide. Anyway, I'm with, with Monsanto, and you ask, how do you sort of break up the medical and I can, you know, tell you how do you get decentralized medicine? Correct. If I'm present, I can do that. And I know exactly how I'll tell you that I'm very interested. Well, what, what you, first of all, I'm going to go to NIH, my first week in there, and I'm going to say that NIH is a 42 billion dollar budget.

1:52:01It's giving that money to 56 ,000 scientists, who are mainly universities in the US, but they're getting this, and a lot of them are doing drug development. The rest of them are mainly studying infectious disease, in which there's a lot of money. And they do gain a function. So, with infectious disease, it's not the big problem in this country, chronic disease is we've gone from a chronic disease rate of 6 % when my uncle's president, 11 .8 % 1986 to 54 % Wow, 2006. And then NIH stopped publishing that data. We don't know those data. We don't know what it is. We know it's a lot higher than 54 this time.

1:52:43Yeah, probably, it's probably 60, I mean, one out of every seven kids, all is auto -meant disease. Just think about this, this is what I said to you yesterday about centralized medicine, is if you look at it just on a financial basis, the return on equity, probably you'll tell you, we spend more money in this country, and we get the lowest return on equity for health. The budget for health is 4 .3 trillion. The military, including national security is 1 .3 trillion. So this is 4 .3 trillion. 3 .7 trillion goes to chronic disease, which was practically nothing. It's 22 times higher than what was being spent in 1960 in relationship to GDP.

1:53:31And we had during COVID, this shows the impact of that. We had during COVID, the highest death rate, the body count in the world. We had 16 % of the COVID deaths. We only have 4 .2 % of the global population. I don't know why people are getting medals and, you know, millions or a war or a Nobel Prize. Yeah, for makes no sense. Right. Well, because we miss handled it. We're rewarding shitheads. Yeah. And part of that is because of mismanagement, catastrophic mismanagement, and data chaos and all this stuff that went along with it. But also, we have the highest chronic disease burden in the world.

1:54:10And CDC said the average person who died from COVID at 3 .8 chronic disease. So they had obesity, diabetes, asthma, and something else. Right. And then some of them had eight or nine. So we're the sickest population. And that makes us more of the these people were not dying of COVID. They were dying. You know, they they were dying. We pushed them off the cliff. Yes. So I'm going to go over there and I'm going to say, look, we're going to give insecticide disease a break. And we're going to find out what's causing the chronic disease. Now, all just rates have gone from one in 10 ,000 in my generation.

1:54:45So men today, right now, my generation, one in 10 ,000, full blown autism, which means nonverbal, non toilet trained, head banging, stimming, hand flapping, toe walking, you know, the, the stereotyping features a lot of one in 10 ,000. My kids' generation is one in 34 children. That breaks, that breaks every law of neo -darrism and Darwinism. So and then everyone's going back. Completely backwards. Congress said to EPA, tell us what year it started. They didn't ask CDC, ask EPA, EPA is a captive agency, but it's captured by oil, coal, and pests, I'm not by far, because it doesn't regulate farmers.

1:55:32So it came back with a real science. And it said, it's a red line 1989. So 1989 also was the year that all of these other chronic many of the other ones, food allergies suddenly appeared, peanut allergies. So what happened in 89? So what? Okay, let me tell you what happened in an neurological disease. 80 -D -80 -HD, speech -related language -like, ticks, teresidium, narcolepsy, ASD, autism, autoimmune diseases. Um, rumours went either right, it suddenly exploded. Juvenile diabetes, I never saw as a kid, suddenly exploded. Loop is, groans, all these weird diseases that we never heard of suddenly, they're everywhere.

1:56:13And then the allergic diseases, like peanut allergies, food allergies, eggs amount, you would never heard of eggs amount as a kid right now every classroom has kids with eggs amounted. And all of these, you know, asthma exploded. My brother had asthma, he was told by a doctor. He was told, there'll never be a cure for asthma because it's so rare that nobody will ever study it. Well, now it's one out of every eight black kids in our city. And this 89 was the better year when all this stuff starts happening. And we know it's an environmental toxin because genes don't cause epidemics. They can provide the vulnerability.

1:56:52Say that again, because you know what? That's what decentralized medicine has been pounding the table about for 20 years. And that's, see, that's genetic. It's not genetic. It can provide the vulnerability, but you need an environmental toxin. Remember what I said to you, Bromant? I said that the NIH spends their money focusing on RNA and DNA when the real problem is the mitochondrial DNA, which is the environmental smoking gum. I mean, loud and clear. Yeah. So there's a toxicologist, very famous to have the college is called Phil Langerian, and his own downside in New York. And I've used him on a lot of cases.

1:57:28He shy of me because he knows vaccines as a, you know, is a death trap for anybody with obvious problems. He won't go there, but he knows something happened in 89. So he's done a bunch of papers that says, okay, what could it be? There's a limited universe of things that, and you have to, you have to find a toxin. I became ubiquitous that year. So every demographic from Cubans and keep us came to, and you know, in the last car effect, it, and then there's some other features that are interesting, which is it should be a toxin effect, boys at a 41 ratio of neurological disorders, a 41 ratio to girls, right?

1:58:14Because that's one of the features of this that boys are deeply impacted by all these neurological injuries.

1:58:26And so PFOA is one of these follow the timeline, which are flamert hardened that was put in all of our furniture, childhood pajamas around that area. Life has say, okay, which again, you know, around the early 90s, 93 is when it, you know, they developed a round of red accord, atrazine, nianicotoid, pastisides, same timeline, cell phone, white phone radiation, right? That's the one that Uncle Jack highly favors from this list that I've been teaching about. But there's a lot. I think it's actually multi -faculty. It's cute. It's cute. Our kids are, and they all, they all operate on similar biological pathways, which is the connectivity between neurons that is, that is, that dies when your immune system is as, and you have mitochondrial weaknesses.

1:59:21That's the link to immune system begins demanding energy, and your body gives that a presence of your brain, and your brain, particularly for a kid, is the biggest demander of energy. It gets 20 % of the cardiac output and children. The cardiac output is even greater than it is in adults, which is the reason why they go through exorbitant growth, because remember humans are the silly talking primates that aren't born with their brain fully developed until they're 25 years old. And then the vaccine schedule changed in 89. We went, during this period, we went from the three vaccines I got as a kid, and you got to the 72th at our kids' got.

2:00:04And 1989 was the big change year, because 86 was when they passed the vaccine act, and immunized the country of companies from liability. So suddenly these companies made a gold rush, because here's a product that, number one, you, the federal government pays for almost all the development costs. Number two, the biggest cost to every medicine is downstream liabilities. Now that's just been eliminated. Number three, there's no advertising and marketing costs, because the government is forcing 76 million kids to take it. And number four, there's no safety testing. So vaccines are immune from pre -licency safety testing, the only medical product, because it's essentially a military product.

2:00:47That's every single vaccine, right? There's not one of the 72 vaccines that was ever tested properly licensed her, including the one that we all just were forced to feel as tested one industry. So, okay, you ask, how am I going to fix this? I'm going to tell them, first of all, we're going to do the real science. You know, I'm going to call in the journals and say, you know, to the Justice Department, say we're going to file racketeering, since it's got a shoe for retracting these, you know, these free rejection. Just so, you know, you know, who make Rico stancher, right? Yeah. He's dead. He's the one that brought it in.

2:01:27And then, but also, I'm going to say we're going to study chronic disease from now on, and we're going to find out what's causing it. So he's going to fund Doug Wallace's research. What is he saying? He's going to stop with the RNA DNA. And let's go, let's start looking at other places. So now you'll say, well, even if you find out for sure that a certain product is causal. These companies are so powerful and their lobby at farm is the biggest lobbying companies in the world. And, you know, let's say if you find out the high -fructural scorn syrup is causing the obesity epidemic, you know, why is it when my uncle is present, 6 % of American kids were obese, they 42 % are obese, and 75 % are overweight.

2:02:11Well, how does that happen? The kids just suddenly get lazy. They're being poisoned. But you also understand high -fructural scorn syrup is a huge industry in this country. There's millions of farmers that are tied into it. There's an entire corn lobby. There's, you know, one of the most powerful lobbies on the capital, how do you fix that? Here's how you fix it. You do enough studies at the trial lawyers are going to be able to get into court and they all start suing them and the government doesn't have to do anything. It's just like we did with life to say, when we sued on glyphosate, which everybody said we couldn't do, we had enough studies to get past the doubt, but hearing, which is the threshold.

2:02:50And then we sued them and we made it too expensive and they removed it in all from gardening. But glyphosate is still being used for other things. Agriculture, we couldn't sue for agriculture because agricultural workers are exposed to so many pesticides. No way to figure that. It was impossible, but home gardeners, a lot of home gardeners, we were representing 40 ,000 and they all said the same thing. I bought the glyphosate because it said save as aspirin. It said it is safe and it said you don't even have to wear moon suit. You can go out and have the guy on the cover we showed to the jury of the container is in a vermutable shirt and shorts, and glyphosate.

2:03:34They were telling them this is so safe, you don't have to take any precautions. Then we showed they knew that it was causing non -hotjes and famine all these people. They've removed it from there, but we couldn't sue for food.

2:03:50Because agricultural workers have so many co -variables. So it's still in the food? Yeah, it's still on the food. You couldn't even be in organic food or no? What we found is that if you eat organic food that all the glyphosate has gone in 75 days from your body. Considering that you're in probably the most well thought of democratic family in the history of the country, is it odd to be cast out by your party? Well, I mean, I feel like I thought it as hard as I could to stay within a democratic party, but it became clear that I was not going to be allowed to compete or to run. The DNC has in its charter that it's not that it's supposed to be neutral.

2:04:39But what happened was, Rick, you remember in 2016, Debbie Wasminsholtz was a secretly helping Hillary against Bernie. And putting not only her finger, but her leg and a lot of other stuff on this scale to make sure that Bernie couldn't win. And so, Cooper Bernie's supporters sued the DNC after that election to say, hey, it says in your charter, you're not allowed to do that. This is like showing up at a football game and the referees are wearing your opponents jerseys, right? And you're not allowed to do that. So, by the federal judge, they litigated that case. The federal judge said, yeah, they did it.

2:05:29They fixed it, but they can do it. It's legal. They're a private club. They can make up their own rules. They can change them what they want. They don't have to pay them. They can run it anyway they want. It's a private club. So, this time is really the first time where they've said, oh, there is no boundaries to what we can get away with now. And so, they came right out and they endured publicly and doors Biden. And then they merged their campaigns. Biden and the DNC were indistinguishable. They were operating out of the same office. DNC was fundraising and they can break all the fundraising rules.

2:06:09They're not bound by the rules. I was a $6600 maximum. They can get 700 ,000 from an individual. And basically give it right to Biden's campaign. And so, I was fighting this behemoth and then they were changing the rules. They changed the new Hampshire rules so that any photo I got in New Hampshire would count for a present Biden not for me. And they're all politicization of the and the weaponization that we've seen of the law enforcement agencies with them not giving me secret service protection. We're seeing that on every level. The censorship that was being done of me in cooperation with FBI and the CIA, the Zoll documented in Judge Doty's 155 page federal decision that's now in the Supreme Court.

2:07:02And so, it really became impossible for me to run in the Democratic Party. And then the media also, which is aligned, the media outlets, like CNN, MSNBC and New York Times that are completely aligned with the DNC. And there's a whole lot of Democrats who that's all they read. And that's all they see. And if you're living in that, if I was living in that information bubble, I would consider myself a very disreputable crazy person because they never allowed an unfiltered interview with me on any of those outlets. And it was all, you know, just mischaracterizations, what I said or I supposedly said, and a stream of defamation that I'm not complaining.

2:07:47I'm just answering your question, is this, you know, at some point it became impossible for me to compete on those landscapes. And so, it was an obvious choice that I had to make. And once I'm sure of a choice, I do it without regret.

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