In short
Q&A on transitioning from freelancer to agency without “blowing up” the business, emphasizing a shift from doing work to building an asset/system.
Guest backgrounds
No guest appears; host is Omar Zinhome. He references business coach Eamon Abdullah as the source of the “allergic to work” idea.
Key claims
Agencies are a delivery system, not the owner working harder. Productize your offer, sell outcomes (fixed pricing, deliverables, timelines) instead of hours, make the first hire replace you (leverage), document processes/SOPs and remove yourself over time, and build a system that doesn’t collapse when you’re unavailable.
Notable examples
Fitness “before/after” outcome framing; replacing admin tasks (email, scheduling, publishing podcasts/YouTube, forms/descriptions) with a first hire; missed calls/slow follow-ups as “silent killers.”
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFreelancer to Agency Transition
0:00 to 0:22
Exploring challenges freelancers face while transitioning to an agency.
“Mazda has been named Consumer Reports' safest new car brand.”
Freelancer to Agency Transition
1:44 to 2:17
Exploring challenges freelancers face while transitioning to an agency.
“I'm your host, Omar Zinhome, where I deliver practical business lessons three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday to help you start, grow, and scale your business.”
The Mental Shift Required
2:17 to 3:15
Understanding the shift from individual work to building an asset.
“Thanks for being a part of our journey to help others on their journey.”
Productizing Your Services
3:15 to 4:22
Learn how to define your core offer and productize services.
“allergic to work, which sounds very strange because hard work got you to where you are today.”
Selling Outcomes Instead of Time
4:22 to 7:15
Understand the importance of selling results over hours worked.
“It's not, I do design work or I do strategic consulting.”
Creating Leverage with Your First Hire
9:23 to 11:10
Key insights on making your first hire to leverage your time.
“Step three, your first hire is all about creating leverage in your business.”
Shifting Your Role as an Agency Owner
11:10 to 12:20
Understanding the shift in responsibilities when building an agency.
“Step four, one of the hardest parts of this system, and that is when you need to start removing yourself.”
Building a Resilient Agency
12:20 to 14:00
Recognizing the need for a business model that doesn't rely on you.
“And there's so many experts and so many people that can do the work for you.”
Transitioning from Freelancer to Agency
14:00 to 16:12
Learn how to evolve from freelancing to building a sustainable agency.
“They might have some sympathy for you, but at the end of the day, they have a job that needs to get done and they're going to find somebody that's going to get it done for them if it's not you.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02Mazda has been named Consumer Reports' safest new car brand. It starts with our approach. Every Mazda comes standard with proactive safety features. So you're more aware of what's around you, more focused on the road ahead, and ready before problems ever start. Mazda. More of what matters most to you. Go to mazdausa.com to learn more. Consumer Reports does not endorse or promote any product. Owning a small business comes with a lot of challenges. When I was starting out, I was chairing meetings. I was scripting and shooting podcasts. I was putting up social media posts. It's a lot. I know. I've been there.
0:41There is no doubt growing your small business is hard. It's even harder to do it efficiently. But with LinkedIn, you get all the tools you need to grow in one place. With LinkedIn, simplify your sales, marketing, and hiring so that you can, you know, actually run your small business. Learn more at linkedin.com slash MBA show. If you're a freelancer right now, I already know something about you. You're busy. You're probably making decent money, but you're also extremely exhausted because no matter how good you are, if you don't do the work, you don't get paid. And that's the ceiling you're dealing with.
1:19So today we're going to answer a great question from a listener who asked today's Q &A Wednesday's question, how do I go from freelancer to building an agency without blowing up everything in my business? We're going to break it down step by step so it's not intimidating, but at the same time, you're making progress in a short amount of time. Let's get into it.
1:44Welcome back to the$100 MBA show. I'm your host, Omar Zinhome, where I deliver practical business lessons three times a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday to help you start, grow, and scale your business.
1:58I got a quick favor to ask. If this show has helped you in any way, leave me a quick review. You could do so wherever you listen to podcasts. This helps me and my team reach even more people who need the same no-fluff practical business advice that you're getting from this show. It only takes a few seconds, but it makes a huge difference. Thanks for being a part of our journey to help others on their journey. The biggest mistake freelancers make when they're trying to become an agency, get out of freelance work, is they try to do more work, not different work. There's a difference here, and I'm going to explain.
2:33An agency is not you working harder. It's not you talking to more clients. It's not you answering more emails at night. It's you building an asset. An agency is a delivery system, not a person. It's something that you create to do the work for you. Your job is going to change tremendously. You're going to go from how do I do the work well to how do I make sure the work gets done well without me. This is a mental shift. And the best way I can teach you this is how I learned this. I learned this actually from Eamon Abdullah, who is a business coach. And one of the things you need to do is you need to start becoming allergic to work.
3:14Yes, allergic to work, which sounds very strange because hard work got you to where you are today. But in order for you to scale and build a business, you have to start saying, no, I can't do this because I'm allergic. I can't. And I need to get somebody else to do this. I need another system. I need a tool to do this for me. Whatever it might be, you need to start delegating and start expanding. Now, don't worry. You might think in your head all these questions like, oh, I can't afford it. How am I going to do this? Don't worry about that right now. Just understand the concept and then we're going to talk about implementation in a moment.
3:47Step one is to productize what you do. Before you hire anyone, before you get fancy, you need some clarity. You need to ask yourself some important questions. What do you do over and over again in your business? What do your clients hire you for every single time? What's the value? What is the actual thing that you solve for them? What part of your work creates the most value for them? Think about it for a moment. And feel free to pause and rewind and answer these questions in your notebook or on your phone. it's going to make a big difference and allow you to start implementing by just answering these questions.
4:17Because the answers to these questions are your core offer. It's not, I do design work or I do strategic consulting. No, it's I help X achieve Y using Z. What does that mean? Well, I help busy moms achieve their health goals using a simple workout plan and meal prep, whatever. However, the point here is that you are achieving an outcome for your customers. Your customers only care about the outcome. Just keep that in mind. If you can get them the outcome, they don't really care about how you do it. Okay, as long as it's legal and ethical, they're happy. So that is how you got to start thinking about your business, because now you're going to start thinking, what are some ways I can get those outcomes without me getting involved?
5:02Or at least you're involving yourself at the absolute minimum amount. Agencies, they grow by saying no to everything else outside of the outcomes. You have to get laser focused about what you actually achieve for your customers. Step two is to stop selling time and start selling outcomes. Now that you have a clear outcome, you have to understand that freelancers, they sell hours. And agencies sell results, right? If you want me to run your Facebook ads every single month, they get you results. This is how much you got to pay. Doesn't matter how many hours it takes me to do this. I'm selling you a result.
5:39I'm selling you an outcome. This means fixed pricing. It means clear deliverables. And it means defined timelines. Customers really love when these three are in place because they can predict what's going to happen, right? They understand how much they're going to have to pay. They understand what they're going to get. They understand how long it's going to take. Your offer should answer only one thing clearly, and that is what does the client look like after working with us? What's the after picture? You know, fitness is often used as an example when people teach business because it's one of the easiest ones to kind of see clearly.
6:12Like when you see those before and after photos of people that are getting fit, it's very compelling because you understand, you have a clear picture. This is what they're buying. They're buying this new body. What is that new body for you and your customers? When you sell outcomes, you can delegate all the execution to help them get to that outcome. But when you sell time, you actually undercut yourself. You actually devalue what you actually do. You're no longer selling an outcome, which is what people actually value. You're selling time and time is really relative. A lot of people feel like$5 an hour is expensive.
6:47You know, if you don't, I have some uncles and aunts you should meet. But the point here is, is that selling time is counterproductive for you and your customers because your customers are not really valuing how long it takes. They actually would prefer it to take less time and would actually pay more if you can get them the outcome faster. Missed calls and slow follow-ups are silent killers for your business. And that's exactly how businesses leave money on the table without ever realizing. That's why today's episode is brought to you by Quo, spelled Q-U-O, the business communication system built so you never miss a call.
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9:13Download the WhatNot app today and get free shipping on your first order. Just search W-H-A-T-N-O-T, WhatNot, in the app store and start scoring amazing deals. Step three, your first hire is all about creating leverage in your business. This is where most people mess up. Your first hire should replace you, not support you. You've got to look at all the tasks that you do that consume most of your time. And you need to take those tasks and give them to somebody else so that you can start doing high level tasks, tasks that actually bring in the big bucks. We're talking about somebody who could take 60 to 70 % of your work off your plate.
9:55This was the first hire I made in my business. It's one of the most important hires because they're going to free you up from all the admin work that you absolutely hate and also sucks all your time, whether it's email or scheduling or admin work or scheduling blog posts or publishing podcast episodes or filling in forms or descriptions or publishing your YouTube videos, whatever those things are in your business, they're very time consuming and you shouldn't be doing, you shouldn't be leveraging your time by getting somebody else to do this stuff. Yes, it costs money. Yes, margins feel tighter at first when you're making this higher because less money is going to be in profit because you're spending more now.
10:36But this is how you buy back your time. And time is the only thing that lets you grow. And by the way, time is limited to all of us. We only have 24 hours a day. You, me, Warren Buffett, Sarah Blakely, Barbara Corcoran, it doesn't matter how successful these people are. They only have 24 hours in the day. That's the equalizer. So how do you make sure you use your time that allow you to scale your business properly, where your time is only used on high leverage tasks, tasks, actually bring in the money that helped you grow your business so that you can make more hires so you can expand? You get the point.
11:11Step four, one of the hardest parts of this system, and that is when you need to start removing yourself. At this stage, your role starts to shift again, right? You start focusing on sales, you start focusing on client relationships, you start focusing on systems and HR and quality control and recruitment. You start to document everything, you start building SOPs, you get your assistant to help you with that as well. You get a better understanding of who are the clients you're serving so you can have better messaging in your sales materials, all that kind of stuff. And a lot of people view this as a little bit boring, a little bit unsexy, and they feel like, oh, I used to love rolling up my sleeves and actually doing the work.
11:47Yes. But you have to remember, if you want to build a scalable business, you're going to have to do things that are a little bit uncomfortable out of your wheelhouse, because at the end of the day, you have to make a choice. Do you want to be a worker bee or do you want to be the architect? The worker bee is going to do the work and pull out all the stops and do the art, and that's fine. Okay, you can do that. But If you want to scale your business and go beyond just yourself and make exponential amount of revenue, then you're going to need to sacrifice and start doing some of the work until you build a business to the point where you can just jump in.
12:20And there's so many experts and so many people that can do the work for you. And then you could just do the design work or whatever it is for fun. Or you can be part of the meetings that brainstorm ideas and have creative ambition and work, whatever it might be. The point here is that you have to understand that there is a period of time where you're going to do less of the stuff that got you started because what got you here won't get you there, won't get you to the point where you want to go. Now, you might be thinking, Omar, okay, I build this agency. How do I stand out? How do I differentiate myself from other agencies?
12:54Well, I know that this is something a lot of us are thinking about, especially in today's day and age. And this is why I created an episode just on this topic called, why does it feel harder than ever to grow and stand out? And by the way, you're not imagining this. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast because this is coming out very soon. I crafted this episode to make sure that you understand, like, why is this happening? Why does it feel really crowded in whatever space you're in? And how do you actually become unique and really get the attention of the right people that you're trying to attract?
13:27So make sure you subscribe. that episode's coming out soon. Step five is confronting the hard truth that if you're an agency that only works because you are involved in everything, you don't have an agency. You have a fragile system. Listen, life is unpredictable. I'm telling you right now, there's going to be a time where you're not going to be able to be there full time. You're not going to be able to give it your full attention. It could be a family crisis, you know, God forbid. It could be a health scare. It could be, you know, something as small as an accident that you need to take care of.
13:57And, all this stuff is kind of piling on your plate because you have other things to attend to. Clients want predictable results. They might have some sympathy for you, but at the end of the day, they have a job that needs to get done and they're going to find somebody that's going to get it done for them if it's not you. They don't care who presses the buttons, right? As long as it gets done, that's when you're becoming an agency, when you're building a business, when you're building an asset. Now, the reason why I really stress this word asset is because when you build an agency that doesn't rely on you, this is an asset that you can sell one day.
14:35You can sell your business easily because the buyer understands that this business runs regardless if you're at the helm or not. They can get somebody else to come and be the leader, the manager, and the customers get what they paid for. They get the results. Your reputation doesn't take a hit, all that kind of stuff. So the value of your business sustains and you're able to exit your business and make some life-changing money. When you transition from freelancer to agency to building an actual business, your income starts to stabilize. Your time comes back. You stop starting from zero every single month.
15:11You have consistency. You build something that's actually sellable one day. This is where real businesses are born. This is kind of when you graduate into real entrepreneurship. Before I go, I want to leave you with this. If you're a freelancer right now and you're listening to this and you're feeling the tension, that pull, that's not burnout. That's not you being weak or anything like that. That's growth. That's growth knocking on your door. The move to be building a business, to building an agency, it's not about ego. It's about you having the ability to do what you're doing sustainably. You can't be a freelancer and grow unless you start charging astronomical amounts.
15:51It's very, very hard for you to be a freelancer and be sustainable for a very long time. And when you build a business around what you do, this builds freedom for your life. It's about building something that doesn't collapse if you take a week off or a month off for that matter. If this episode lit a fire under you, your next episode should be this one. Three ways to force yourself to take action. because knowing the path isn't enough. Execution is absolutely everything. That's one of our previous episodes. You can find it here on the podcast. And of course, subscribe so you don't miss what's coming next.
16:28And thanks, Will, for asking the great question. If you've got a question you want to ask here on Q &A Wednesday, go ahead and ask it over at 100mba.net slash Q. If you found today's episode helpful and you want more practical business lessons to help you start, grow, and scale your business, the best thing you could do is subscribe to this podcast. Hit subscribe or follow on your favorite podcast app, the one that you're using right now, whether it's Apple or Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. By hitting subscribe, you get our next episode automatically and it's the best way to support the show.
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Are you stuck in the freelancer grind, wondering if it’s even possible to build something bigger? Will sent in today’s question: how do you go from hustling for clients alone to leading an agency? If you’ve ever asked yourself the same thing, listen up!
In this lesson, Omar digs into the shift from solo work to agency building. Instead of hustling harder, you’ll hear how to rethink your role, reshape your offer, and set up the foundations that let your business grow beyond just you. The answers aren’t about hype; they’re about clarity, leverage, and the first moves that make scaling possible.
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