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The $100 MBA Show - Episode MBA2293 Summary
Episode Title
When to Hire a Coach + Free Ride Friday
Episode Description
In this episode, host Omar Zenhom discusses the critical timing for hiring a business coach, emphasizing that the right coach can significantly impact your business growth—but only if hired at the right stage of your entrepreneurial journey.
Key Takeaways
- Importance of Timing in Hiring a Coach:
- Hiring a coach at the wrong stage can lead to disillusionment and wasted resources.
- The right time to hire a coach is usually after achieving traction with a product or service.
- Coaches for Different Stages:
- Different coaches can assist in various business stages:
- Early-stage: Focus on foundational elements (e.g., product development, understanding your market).
- Growth stage: Help with scaling strategies and operational improvements.
- Potential Pitfalls:
- Hiring a coach when in urgent need (e.g., business on the brink of failure) is often ineffective due to the time required to implement changes.
- New entrepreneurs seeking coaching without a clear direction or established objectives may not benefit as much.
Key Concepts Discussed
- Stages of Business Development:
- Traction Phase: This is when you have a product or service that has been validated by customers.
- Scaling Phase: This is when you look to expand and optimize based on existing success.
- Finding the Right Coach:
- Look for coaches that align with your current business stage.
- Coaches often prefer clients who have already demonstrated some level of success (e.g., making at least $10,000/month).
- Coaching Engagements:
- Coaching can be short-term (specific projects) or long-term (ongoing growth).
- Group coaching can provide additional learning opportunities through shared experiences and collective problem-solving.
- Advice for New Entrepreneurs:
- If just starting out, focus on training and foundational knowledge before seeking a coach.
- Books, courses, and workshops can provide essential groundwork for building a business.
Omar's Personal Experiences
- Coaching Journey: Omar shares his personal experiences with various coaches and how they helped him at different stages in his ventures, including his software company, Webinar Ninja.
- Significant Mentors: He cites Dan Martell as a pivotal coach who helped him significantly scale his business, highlighting the importance of accountability and expert insights.
Conclusion
- The episode concludes with a reminder of the importance of establishing a solid business foundation before seeking coaching. Once a business starts seeing stagnation, that is the time to seek new coaching opportunities for growth.
Free Ride Friday
- The episode also features a segment announcing the winner of the week’s Free Ride Friday, where listeners can win lifetime access to the $100 MBA program by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts.
Action Items
- For listeners:
- Reflect on your business stage and consider if you are ready for a coach.
- Evaluate the need for foundational training and courses if you're at the beginning of your entrepreneurial journey.
- Engage with community and group coaching for broader learning benefits.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:09Heyo! Welcome to the$100 MBA show. No fluff, just the good stuff every single day with our daily 10 minute business lessons for the real world. I'm your host, your coach, your teacher, Omar Zinhome. I'm also the co-founder of Webinar Ninja, an independent software company. I started my co-founder back in 2014. And today is Free Ride Friday. On Free Ride Fridays, we give away a lifetime membership to one of our programs. We're giving away our$100 MBA live program. It's a two-day live program where we show you how to improve as an entrepreneur 100 % guaranteed. If you want to win a free ride to the live, the recordings, lifetime access to those recordings, just leave us an Apple Podcast rating and review and you enter our weekly random draw we call Freeride Friday.
0:52Listen in on Friday to see if you won. It's that easy. We announce this week's winner a little bit later in the episode. In today's episode, you will learn when is the right time to hire a coach. In previous episodes, we talked about why you'd want to coach, how to find the right coach, and even when you don't need a coach, like when it's time for you to graduate from your coach. But in today's episode, we're going to talk specifically about when. When is it a good time for you to start looking to hiring a coach? Many people wait too long, meaning they get to a desperate situation where their business is about to go under and they're like, I need a coach to turn this around.
1:28This is the worst time to hire a coach because it's going to take time for you to implement what the coach is recommending. And you might not have that time in order to do it quickly enough to save your business. Some people try to hire a coach when they're just getting started But unfortunately a coach can't help you if you have no direction, you have no goals You don't actually have a business or product on your hand for them to help you improve There is a sweet spot though, there's a great time to hire a coach Where they're going to make a huge impact on your results They say timing is everything, this definitely applies when it comes to hiring a coach to help grow your business So let's get into it, let's get down to business I've hired several coaches over the last 20 years throughout my entrepreneurial journey.
2:15Some coaches helped me for a short period of time, three, four months. Some of them helped me for two, three years. Some of them I worked with on just a project. And once the project was up, our agreement together, coach and client was over. But in my several experiences, I've noticed that the timing actually matters when I actually hire the coach. Sometimes it doesn't matter how brilliant of a coach they are. they just can't help you because you're hiring them at the wrong time. I mentioned a few of those times at the start of the episode. You see, this is something that people don't talk about.
2:48There are certain things that you need to figure out on your own. And then once you figure those out, your coach can help you take you to the next level. Here's another secret. The expert, the coach, the mentor, the whatever, they don't have all the answers. All they have is some skills and some experiences that they gain throughout their own life that they can share with you to help you along the way. So in my opinion, and in my experience, it's a great time to hire a coach once you just passed the traction phase, meaning you have a business, you have a product or service for sale, you've sold this product or service to customers, you've proven people actually want this, and now you wanna scale the business so it could be successful, so that you can earn a healthy living, so that you can expand it and grow it and hire a team.
3:36This is great timing. Why? Because you have a lot of things already established. A coach can come in, look at your business, and help you build the next steps. You have a foundation. You have a mission. You have a goal. You have a product. You have a differentiator. People know what you stand for. You have customers you can ask and get feedback from. And you're early enough in your journey for you to make some serious foundational moves that can help you move in the right direction and build upon solid ground. I did this several times in my own software company, Webinar Ninja. We had different stages and I had different coaches in different stages of the business.
4:13I wanted to get to another bigger stage in my business, so I hired the best SaaS coach in the business, who's Dan Martell. He is probably the expert when it comes to SaaS business. In my opinion, he is the best. So when we hired Dan to take us to that next level in our software company, did he just like sprinkle some magic dust and we all of a sudden blew up and grew 500 %? No, he held us accountable. He pointed out some of the weaknesses in our business. He saw things that we didn't see because he's been through this before several times, built several companies, had two exits, sold two companies.
4:49He's been through this before. And he basically just helped us move in the right direction. We did a lot of work to do that, made a lot of changes, took a lot of risks. But I can wholeheartedly say that his coaching at that time helped us a lot. And I noticed that we did a lot better than other companies in different stages. And I'll tell you what I mean by that. You know, his coaching program, SAS Academy, it's a group coaching program. So there was like over 100 different SAS companies in the program with us at the time. I got to learn from other companies, see what they're doing, see how they're growing.
5:25And, you know, we weren't the best company there, but we definitely weren't the worst. And the ones that struggled the most were the ones that really were wishy-washy on their mission, on what they're trying to do, on their differentiator, on their unique selling proposition, on how they acquire customers, who their target avatar is. They haven't established the basics. And therefore, the concepts and the strategies the coach was offering really didn't make sense because they didn't have the foundation. So you really need to have a solid foundation. And this is why I believe that in terms of stages of development, courses and training are great in the beginning for you to get traction and get your first customers and establish those foundational pieces and concepts in your business.
6:10And then once you get that, having a dedicated coach to take you to the next level is the next course of action. And there's lots of courses out there in entrepreneurship. There's free ones. There's paid ones. There's the$100 MBA. You know that this is my program. But no one's going to really be able to coach you through that. You got to do the work. And that's just the secret of it. And people don't want to talk about this, but coaches don't want to work with people that haven't established themselves. They want to have a good track record. They want to have clients that actually are successful.
6:42And they're going to be picky. They're going to be like, hey, I want somebody that is actually have proven themselves already and has a product or service that's selling and doing well. and I want to help them get better. They don't want to help somebody from zero to one because that's the hard part. That's what you have to do first, and it's super risky. And there's a lot of variables outside the coach's realm of influence, like how hard you work and if you actually take those risks and take those bets on yourself to put your product out there, put yourself out there. They want you after that stage.
7:14The best coaches that you could find, actually, are the ones that you are going to find after that stage. And that's kind of the funny part about it. You know, some of the best coaches will only take on clients that are making at least$10 ,000 a month first. And you want one of the best coaches, right? And for those who are trying to get to that point, it's actually kind of hard to find a lot of materials. This is why if you ever take my course, The$100 MBA, it's actually just six workshops, six modules. And it's the fundamentals. This is basically the strategies and the mindset and the systems you need to install in your business to get going, to actually have a business on your hands.
7:55Everything else is up to you. You got to do the work. I basically give you what really matters. This is what you need to focus on. So what happens if you hire a coach outside of this kind of period? Nothing disastrous, but I'm just saying we're going to get the most value, like the highest value per dollar you're spending on a coach. I've had coaches where I wasn't at that timing. I was past that point or before that point in a product or a business, and it was still helpful. I still had somebody who held me accountable. I had somebody to ask advice, bounce ideas off. But if I'm gonna talk about exponential growth, you wanna hire them when you are in the flow, when you're actually in traction and you're not stuck.
8:37Now, I've been doing this for a very long time, so I kinda could predict when it's gonna start getting stuck. meaning we're starting to slow down, we're not growing as fast as we used to, this is like a red alert for me, time to get a coach to take me to the next level, whether it's a short-term engagement or a long-term one. And I did this. Even sometimes having short-term engagements can really get you out of a rut and push you to the next level. I had one of those with Eamon Abdullah, the former president of AppSumo, who took their company from$3 million to$100 million, and he unlocked a whole bunch of things for me in the few sessions we had and it was enough for me to move on and improve and get to where I want to go.
9:19I know I will need another coach along the way. I know this is going to happen because I've seen it throughout my life, throughout my entrepreneurial career, through different projects, through different products, through different businesses. This is just the nature of business. It's levels, right? Certain levels, you're going to need certain assistance. So to wrap up today's lesson, here's my advice. If you're just getting started, you don't have any business on your hands, you don't have any customers, you don't have a brand, you don't have a direction, you don't have a mission, you don't have a USP, you don't have any of that, get started with some training and courses.
9:55Shameless plug, check out the$100 MBA, it might be right for you. We guarantee 100 % of your money back if you don't feel like you've improved at the end of the two days of training. I also recommend picking up the classic books that will help you change your mindset. Autobiographies, biographies. There's tons of must reads here on the podcast. Just search must reads over at 100mba.net. I recommend books constantly that you could read to improve. From there, once you have traction, once you're making money, once the business has proven that there are customers that want what you have, it's time to find a coach.
10:28We have episodes in our archives about how to choose a coach, how to find them, all that kind of stuff. And as you keep growing, once you start seeing your growth not going in the same direction, meaning you're not growing as fast or not growing as fast as you did the last three months or last quarter, this is time to call on a new coach to take you to that next level before it's too late. That wraps up today's lesson, but today's episode's not over. Let's see who won this week's free ride. and the winner is Green Solitaire that's the handle on Apple Podcasts Green Solitaire says everything I wish I'd known after 20 years of running a business and about 10 episodes into the$100 MBA show podcast I wish I had a time machine to send these episodes back to my former self when I was getting started there's so much business advice out there often veteran business owners that are spouting things are either obvious or downright incorrect but the$100 MBA show nails it thank you Green Solitaire for that amazing review.
11:30Your mission is to email me over at omar at 100mba.net so I can make sure I hook you up with the lifetime membership to the 100RBA program over at 100mba.net. If you want to win a free ride, just leave us an Apple podcast rating and review and you enter our weekly random draw we call Free Ride Friday. Listen in on Friday, just like right now to see if you won. It's that easy. Thanks so much for listening to the podcast. If you want to continue to hear amazing business lessons, just hit subscribe, hit follow on your favorite podcast app. It's the best way to support the show and show those podcast apps that you love this podcast.
12:06Before I go, I want to leave you with this. I'm a big fan of actually joining group coaching programs instead of one-on-one coaching. Why? Because you not only learn from the coach and the advice they're giving you and the direction they're giving you, but you're also learning from the experiences and the mistakes and the advice that the coach is giving other entrepreneurs in the group. You also learn from their wins and what worked and what didn't. It's like a think tank. It's like a collective experience that you can just grab and use in your own business and your own journey. Thanks so much for listening and I'll check you in Monday's episode.
12:42I'll see you then. Take care.
12:56Thank you.
From the publisher
You might think “If only I had a coach…” And you’d be right — a good business coach can make a world of difference. But that’s only true if you hire the right coach for the moment you’re currently in.
What do we mean by that?
Well, different kinds of coaches can help you in different stages of your business. The person who gets you from A to B may not be the person who gets you from B to C. It all depends on where you and your business are in their development, growth, and potential.
Get the wrong coach at the wrong time, and you’ll end up losing faith in coaching altogether. But nail the timing, and you’ll accelerate your growth.
Today, Omar shares his view of the best time to get started with a coach, plus a few other key milestones on the journey where a coach can help you move to the next plateau. He would know — he’s been both coach and coach-ee more than once.
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