Andrew Yang on How to Regulate AI and Whether He'll Run Again 

24:23Andrew Yang:OK. So if you were to take like a dollar estimate as to what's on the line, you could say it's like trillions and trillions of dollars, global dominance, military dominance, the whole thing. So that part is real. The part that is not real or smart is saying, OK, in order to defeat China, we need to have no safeguards, no taxes, no regulation. Just let us like do whatever the heck. And everyone has to use it too. Right. It's essentially the Trump administration's AI policy to the extent that they have one. It's let it rip. Yeah, it's let it rip. Hey, it's making you dumber, which, by the way, has been demonstrated.

25:04Andrew Yang:Like all of your college students are cheating with it. Like, just go for it. Right. It'll pay off one day. Like so like that part does not follow from the first part. Right. Like so to me, it'd be like, look, competition is real. We want to win, but we want to make sure it doesn't kill us. We want to make sure our kids are sane. We want to make sure we don't all have our identities pirated. We want to make sure that, you know, there are a bunch of reasonable things that our population should have assurance of us, including and the value is going to get shared with us. So that's the thing that comes in is not just going to blow my kid's job to smithereens.

25:46Andrew Yang:Right. Like it's going to help create a future. Right. I think I mean, back to the point you guys were making about social media, they totally whiffed on social media. I think that's why there's so much backlash right now is because normies, regular people walking around are like, you told you promised us the world that social media was going to like connect us and make everybody smarter. And it didn't not only did it not do any of that, I mean, everything worse in every way while making like a handful of people very rich. Why wouldn't that exact thing happen again with AI without these safeguards, right?

26:13All right. Hold that thought on the AI stuff. Let's get back to business here. Lisa, one of the bills that you've talked about in the op-ed that's languishing in Congress is the State of Men's Health Act, which would establish an office of men's health in the federal government. Talk a little bit about that piece of legislation. OK. So the State of Men's Health Act, it will create an office of men's health. We talked about this before. There's eight offices of women's health federally. They're zero for men. It's very simple. It's not going to take more money, not going to take any money away from women.

26:44And it was a Democrat, Troy Carter, who introduced it into the House. It got a little bit of support, not as much as you would want to really get a bill all the way. But then back in July, Senator Galeo and Senator Marshall, they introduced a companion bill in the Senate. So whenever that happens, more eyeballs go upon it. Ooh, what's going on here? So it was very politically brave of Senator Galeo to do that, in my opinion, and for Congressman Carter. I agree. And so I'm going to show you why I think it was brave. Because, again, you would think that this would not be particularly controversial, right?

27:25Eight federal offices dedicated to women's health. Nobody has any problems with that. To your point, this office would not be taking resources away from any of those offices, would not be adding spending to the debt, anything like that. Men are, to Andrew's point, right? Men are 50 % of the population, right? It's not like we're doing that. So why would anyone be against more resources to men's health and well-being? Okay. Well, allow me to introduce you to former Today Show anchor Katie Couric. Olivia, can we play this recent Instagram video from Ms. Couric in its entirety? It's like a couple of minutes long.

27:55I promise it's worth it to watch this in full. This is really something. Recently, Senators Ruben Gallego of Arizona, and Roger Marshall of Kansas, introduced a bill that would establish the Office of Men's Health. No, this is not satire. And yes, women everywhere are outraged. I wanted to take a moment to set the record straight about how men's health has been historically funded and studied. Let's start with the basics. Researchers were not required to even include women in clinical trials until 1993. Before that, there were major studies that didn't include women at all And if women were included, they made up only about 20 to 30 percent of participants, which means we created a medical system historically designed without women in mind.

28:44Only one percent of global health care research and development goes to female specific conditions, excluding cancer, meaning that one percent of funding is being used to study everything from pregnancy to postpartum depression, endometriosis, menopause, PMOS, PMS. The list goes on and on. Women are diagnosed on average four years later than men across 770 diseases. That's 1 ,460 days women spend waiting for answers that men already have. While women generally outlive men by about six years, they spend 25 % more of their lives in poor health or managing chronic disabling conditions. And speaking of chronic conditions, did you know about 80 % of people with autoimmune diseases are female and we still don't know why.

29:32Did you also know that two out of three Alzheimer's patients and deaths are women? You may be surprised to hear then that 99 % of Alzheimer's mouse studies were done on male mice and only 12 % of funding for the disease goes to women-focused studies. I could go on. And then there's the sexism and gender bias in the care women do receive. Women are more likely to have their pain dismissed or written off as normal. One published study found that women who went to the emergency room with severe stomach pain had to wait almost 33 % longer than men with the same symptoms. Heart disease is the number one killer of women in the United States, and yet women are 50 % more likely than men to be misdiagnosed when they're having a heart attack.

30:18McKenzie found that because women's health is so understudied and undertreated, Women around the world lose about one week of healthy life every year, adding up to 75 million years annually. So while it's true that men are more likely to die of alcoholism, drug use, suicide, and homicide, and those are, of course, issues we should take seriously, we already have centuries of knowledge about the male body that can allow doctors and scientists to hone in on those issues. What makes me and many experts concerned is the fundamental lack of knowledge about women's health. Our bodies need attention in order for us to level the playing field.

31:01And Senator Gallego, I know you said that you're championing men's health because you want to be a good father. But I think one of the best ways to show up for your family is to ensure that your daughter and wife have access to the same quality of care and information and research as you and your sons. I'm sorry to make you guys sit through that whole thing. I think it was instructive. It is instructive. OK. There's a lot there. The point that she's trying to make, I guess, is that because there's all these blind spots in our understanding of women's health, that ipso facto, putting funding or even not even funding, just like putting an office of men's health in the federal government is therefore unnecessary.

31:45Is that how you – what is she doing here? Well, this is the thing. A lot of people in my space and our space who stand up for boys and men's issues, we constantly say this is not a zero-sum game. It's not either or. It's not either or. Standing up for one thing does not mean you're against the other. When we're asking for one office of men's health, because even all the things she listed that negatively impact men, that's why we need an office of men's health. Suicide, overdose. She makes her point in the end. And she's like, oh, and by the way, men do suffer worse from these things. But so she's making the point that she's setting out to refute in the piece.

32:27But when I saw this video, I was, oh, no, because I know I know what they do. I know why this happens. There's a lot of funding going on in D.C. when it comes to health. Just a few weeks before this came out, women's organizations went to Congress and asked for$20 billion over the next 10 years to address the women's health gap. Don't get me wrong. I'm a woman. I've experienced some of the issues that she even mentions in that of understudied women's issues and not being believed. So both of those things I've experienced personally. I'm not saying we don't need to fund women's health or downplay women's health.

33:12I'm saying we shouldn't be underfunding and downplaying men's health. There's two things.

33:16Andrew Yang:Yeah, I agreed with just about everything she was describing about like the gaps in the system vis-a-vis women. I actually had this thought that was like wouldn't funding men's health specifically actually augment our ability to treat women effectively? because then you'd look at it and be like, oh, not all people are the same. Right. Men are men. Women are women. Oh, like you women have very specific like issues like, oh, let me be responsive to that. Home in on that. So that the I mean, they're massive problems in our health care system where women are concerned, like for sure. And my wife has like had some experiences with them.

33:54Andrew Yang:I've like witnessed it. Sure. Sure. But the like acting like having an office for men would somehow diminish the resources for women like that's really the problem. It's like that. You can't do two things at once. Exactly. Like we're we're asking for an office of men's health for the first in history, by the way. They're asking for 20 billion dollars. There's no competition there. You can have both. You can have your own conversation. We can walk and chew gum, right? Exactly. But there's something very important there, which is I referred earlier to the feminization of the Democratic Party operative class.

34:32This is the point.

34:33Andrew Yang:Yeah. And maybe of the party generally. And so check it out. Ruben Gallego, also probably running for president, decided to do this. Let's see. And then the base of the Democratic Party is women. And so women all of a sudden are like, oh, you're some chauvinist. Yes. Which is, by the way, the comments on that video on Instagram are all that. They're all yelling at Ruben Gallego saying, I'm a constituent. I won't vote for you until you pull this. As though he introduced some like crazy – Well, even she starts the video off right from the beginning gaslighting women saying, no, this isn't satire.

35:08And so she's telling them they should think this is a joke right from the get-go.

35:13Andrew Yang:How is that a joke? I mean how is it like, OK, I want an office to study the health of half the population. For your sons, for your husbands, for your brothers. I don't want to – I mean we are. I don't want to gang up on Katie Kirk, whatever. But the reason why I played it, Andrew, is what I want to ask you, right? The visceral reaction that she had to, again, something fairly anodyne, right? An office to study the health of half of the population. This stuff codes as right wing when you talk about it, right? To your point about the feminization of the Democratic Party. Democrats, including the liberal women in my life, I'm sure, probably in the same camp as Ms.

35:49Couric there. It codes as right wing. It makes liberals angry. How do normie democrats, of which you were one, now you're an independent, how do people counter that?

36:00Andrew Yang:My genuine belief is that you need more than two parties. Yes. So I am the co-founder of the Forward Party. And I think we are the middle ground where most reasonable men and women would reside that are not the nagging school mama or the crazy uncle. It's like, hey, we're like reasonable people. Let's try and figure it out. So the problem right now is all the social media energy is feeding into this polarization. Yes, it rewards stuff like this. Yeah, and you have this emotional reaction. It's like, oh, the other side. Right. Oh, the other side likes bros. Then, you know, like I hate whoever wants to help them.

36:35Andrew Yang:And like you're my enemy now, Ruben Gallego. It's a terrible dynamic. But it's where we are unless you had a third party that could say, look, guys, don't think either of you really have your acts together. You've let things get worse for us all. Right. And if you want to actually solve some problems, like let's come together. And some people hearing this are like, oh, you know, it's like fantasy land. But I'm going to give you a couple of examples that I'm super excited about. Please. There's an independent running for Senate right now in Idaho named Todd Achilles. And the Democrat dropped out of the race.

37:14Andrew Yang:It's just Todd versus an 83-year-old incumbent Republican. He's 83 now. and he's running for another term and you know so uh and then you have uh brian bangs uh who's an independent in south dakota the democrat dropped out it's the same thing so you could have a couple of independent but they're both military veterans too it's just probably not a coincidence they're you know like uh guys who saw what was going on right um in the country so imagine if you had two or three independent u.s senators in the middle who could then say hey guys we should to have an Office of Men's Health. Who could that caucus based on, depending on where the balance of power in Congress lies, right?

37:55So they would have no power.

37:57Andrew Yang:So believe it or not, Yang has been working on building that fulcrum for the last five years and it may pay off in November if Todd, Achilles, and or Brian Banks prevail. Now, you know, it's an uphill battle, but that's what I do. Do you plan to run a candidate under the forward party in 2028 for president i know i will say and this was fun writing the op-ed um with with lisa it's like if you wind up um with a vacuum i i think you know nature abhors a vacuum right like there's like a real opportunity let's say it's vance kamala yeah uh sure i mean i i would say that that would be that would be the unsatisfying matchup for a lot of people um but 49 of americans now identify as independence and i'm just going to speak I'll speak for myself, whatever.

38:48Andrew Yang:So I'm a reasonable guy, I think. I was a Democrat for a long time. I don't think that the parties want to hear from reasonable guys. And I talk to reasonable guys, and they're like, look, I'm not into the MAGA stuff, but I also don't think that I'm personally the root of all evil. Right. I'm just trying to have a life and a job and a family. And we're caring for my family. So maybe I'm now with you. And it's like, yeah, it seems like it. So there's this huge swath, really the silent majority in American life. And I'm very, very happy to try and talk sense to the Democratic Party, the Republican Party to get real things passed.

39:27Andrew Yang:But I'm not optimistic, honestly, because like they're kind of captive to their own bases. Well, there's no question about that. Are your days of running for office over? I am too young not to run at some point. Right. I mean, look at me. I can speak multiple sentences. I can touch my toes. I can do all sorts of things. It's sad, but honestly, that alone might be enough for a lot of people right now. I will throw out there a vision for 2028. Imagine if there was an independent primary and you could vote on your smartphone. Like, you know, you like me, you like Mark Cuban, you like whomever. And then millions of Americans would be like, ooh, this is actually a genuine democratic process as opposed to the weird primaries that like you haven't participated in.

40:22Andrew Yang:It rewards the extremism that we're talking about on both sides. You have to go, you know, and I mean, like most people could barely pick Iowa out of a map, you know. It's not even the first state anymore. Andrew, since I have you, I want to ask you a little bit about UBI, universal basic income, which was the big sort of tentpole issue back when you your campaign in 2020, which, by the way, people forget, was an incredible insurgent campaign in that primary. Yang gang. Thank you. Yang gang was legit. Andrew was talking about a lot of this stuff way before anybody else. He was ahead of the curve.

40:57Does UBI – here's my thing with UBI because didn't we kind of do it a little bit during COVID, right? I mean, I'm just thinking back to like my wife and I worked through through the pandemic. I think between us, we got something like eight stimulus checks. Right. Which was just, you know, printing money out of thin air, putting it in our pockets. We weren't spending any money. Right. So it just went and, you know, it went to whatever it went to Amazon, DoorDash. It didn't really work right for the federal government. Printing all of that money didn't do. I think what I mean, I guess it did in some ways.

41:28So I'm trying to work it out in my head right now. Like in some ways, it probably did save the economy from disaster. But the other hand, I mean, now we've got, you know, 4 % inflation for the rest of time. Like tell me why UBI and how you would structure it is different from what I'm talking about.

41:42Andrew Yang:All right. Check it out. Check it out. So we printed about$4 trillion during COVID. If you do the math on that, that would be maybe like$12 ,000 ahead. And you and your wife did not get$24 ,000. Right. No. You got. But it was like a few grand. You got maybe 3 ,000. Yeah. So where the other 21 ,000 go, I mean, 83 percent of the stimulus went to the pipes, more or less. It went to corporates. It went to cities and states. We shored up every municipal government. It went into the system. And so to the extent that we juiced the economy, in my opinion, we just did it wrong, which is like we put the money into the system.

42:23Andrew Yang:We essentially ensured that shareholders would be made whole. And then we gave 16 percent of it or so to families. And so the mistake is thinking that the inflation is driven by the money that families got. It wasn't. It was driven by money into the system. OK, that's a good point. I guess my concern with UBI is sort of more – I don't know. It only solves for a part of the problem, right? Like if AI is about to make some percentage of white-collar work redundant, what do you do about like the dignity problem, right? Because there's a lot of people out there like you work, especially men, I think.

42:57I mean women too. But I think especially with men, there's something about you go to work. You provide for your family. You're the breadwinner. If you take that and you replace it with like$1 ,000 from Uncle Sam every month, it doesn't solve the meaning problem. You see what I'm saying?

43:14Andrew Yang:Oh, 1 ,000%. So check it out. Check it out. I have an Asian joke here too. It's like I'm Asian, so I love work. OK. But so jobs provide more than a paycheck. They provide structure, purpose, fulfillment, community, value, a place to go in the morning. And that's what we need for as many people as possible. I want to paint the picture. Right now, again, one third of working age American men are not in the workforce and not looking. And our labor force participation rate is down to about 61 and a half percent, which is anomalously low compared to both ourselves in the past and also other industrialized countries.

43:52Andrew Yang:So we're already at a point where a lot of people are disengaged, detached, et cetera. Now, how do you create more jobs for as many people as possible? There are in my mind – so the Bernie Sanders approach and I had a conversation with him about in 2020. I was like, I don't love – is like a government job guarantee. Now, you can imagine in your mind what those jobs end up looking like in real life. And my joke to Bernie was why not give everyone gray overalls while you're at it? You know, you have a lot of people doing nonsense, make work. And then if you challenge them, they'd be like, no, no, my job, like, you know, wrapping and unwrapping, like, you know, things is really important.

44:33Andrew Yang:Right. Like you just end up creating nonsense. It'd be super oppressive. I see. So that's like a bad way. I'm going to suggest. Now, the best way is that you put a little bit of resources into people's hands and then you end up with a massive boom in entrepreneurship and like organization formation and volunteering for your family formation. So one study by the Roosevelt Institute found that if you were to do the Yang UBI plan, it grows the economy in perpetuity by 12 percent. And that growth would come from a million bakeries and small businesses that people would then start. And then the jobs that you'd have would be more likely to reflect what you wanted for yourself, what the community actually wants, as opposed to a government bureaucrat being like, hey, you know what?

45:22Andrew Yang:We're going to kind of create some nonsense for you. Now, you could say, look, there might be some other ways to create jobs, which I'm all for. I'm all for a wage subsidy. I'm all for like, you know, massive investments in entrepreneurship, though unfortunately now that has tended to veer into like, you know, specific industries that don't employ a whole lot of people and employ very specific types of people. But that should be the vision that we're actually challenging each other on is like, OK, how do we create millions of fruitful opportunities that people are excited about? I agree with you that the government jobs guarantee just strikes me as opening a huge Pandora's box.

46:01But it does seem like the problem that Bernie is talking about could be solved with something, Lisa, you and I have talked about before, which is mandatory national service, which, again, would dovetail with a lot of these men's issues, which is just saying to whether they're 18 or 22, saying you have to take a year and you don't have to go to the military, right? It can be painting the median on the local highway or like picking up trash or planting a garden or something. But you have to do something, some version of service for this country that contributes to the community and gets you in line with time management and authority and everything like that.

46:37Exactly. Gives you something to do. Dangerous point. Gives you a reason to get out the door in the morning, which is honestly like solves 80 % of the problem. 80 % of the problem, right?

46:46Andrew Yang:Because they go out the door, you probably have to take a shower. I was about to mention when we were going back to the AI discussions, when we were talking about male-dominated sectors could be growing to build them out. But we still need to get men into those professions. We have a crisis today with young men getting them the trade education they need. We're looking at it almost like, well, we support our young men, so they'll be ready and be there. But we aren't supporting our young men. So if anything, we're probably going to see a shortage of the workers. There is a shortage. Maybe 100 ,000 electricians right now.

47:25Andrew Yang:So just being like, hey, there's a need. It's like you said, that young person is not getting out and going to that program. Where are you on like a mandatory national service thing? I'm all for all forms of engagement, including national service. It's actually part of my presidential platform. If you go in the Wayback Machine, I think we still have it up. Yang 2020, there's like, you know, a year of service. Again, you really were ahead of your time, Andrew. But then again, going back to UBI too, your UBI, because you mentioned about like just kind of getting money, like that kind of thing. How would that help?

47:58But your approach to even people getting their UBI would be to tax companies that have our data and our information. Technically, that's something we're already giving away for free. Well, I totally agree. The UBI monies, shouldn't it be coming from Anthropic and OpenAI saying, look, if you're training all of this data on us. On us. We're giving it away. We should get something out of that deal. It's like a commodity. Exactly. Like if we even got a little stipend or a payment each month, that actually makes sense for the amount of data and almost like a commodity we're giving away. It's like we're just throwing away oil for free to these companies.

48:39So these guys can make trillion-dollar IPOs. OK, before I let you guys go, I want to talk a little bit about dating. It's been a while since I've been in the dating pool. I met my wife just as the apps started taking off. So I feel like I got in love. I was like the last chopper out of Saigon before. Nicely done. Yeah, I have friends who are on the apps who are like perpetually dating in New York City. It sounds miserable. The worst. Yeah, right? You guys remember. But Lisa, you have a piece out in Evie magazine titled The Economy Wants You to Stay Single. And you write, quote, quoting you here, Love remains everything.

49:11It should be our top priority, not an afterthought squeeze between promotions and solo trips to Ibiza, end quote. Explain what you mean here and what is from your state of mind, like sort of the current state of dating in America. Is it as bad as everybody says? Well, it's pretty crazy right now. I feel like there's this wave of articles constantly coming out, more directed at women, basically saying stay single. It's fabulous. You don't need men. And they're even kind of targeting married women now. Oh, divorce is so empowering. The New York Times, all these articles coming out constantly. In my inbox I'm getting, I regret having my kids, stuff like that.

49:51Yeah. I just got that from, I think, The New Yorker last week, my inbox. So it's this constant wave of single, single, you want to be single. And you're like, wow, somebody out there really wants us to stay single. But then you look at the jobs report coming out, and 98 % of the jobs went to women. They need women in the workforce. How do you keep women in the workforce for longer? They delay family. They delay love. They stay single, and they stay in the workforce. So it's kind of almost like it seems like a necessity right now to have as many kind of workers, female workers, to fill these roles as possible right now.

50:33But in the same piece, I also show another side of like – so you could say it would benefit the economy. But then you see the other side where it would harm the economy because we see the birth rates dropping. Well, exactly. Because people are staying single. So eventually – not even eventually, within the next 10 years, if the birth rates still drop – Yeah, that's a major problem. We haven't even touched on it. It's going to be a major problem that nobody – it's negatively going to impact our economy. I am pro-love. Andrew Yang is pro-love. You're running on a love platform in 2028. Exactly. I'm like, love should be the number one priority.

51:10Look, I'm with you there. I mean, check out this. This is a survey from the Institute for Family Studies. I know you've worked with them before. Twice as many men aged 18 to 39 were unmarried versus married in 2025. Bachelors in that age group surging by 50 % since 2000. Online dating, again, talk about technology that was supposed to solve a problem and did not do it, right? The idea that there's somebody for everyone in the apps, we're going to sort of like help put them together. If you talk to any man, at least any man in New York City who's on these apps, they will tell you the opposite thing, right?

51:38It's made the dating pool smaller. It's made women more. It's made their like their pool is larger. Yes. But men, unless you especially if you're a man and you maybe you're not six feet tall, maybe you're not making three hundred thousand dollars a year. Maybe you're just kind of like a regular guy. You've got no hope. Yeah. And on some of those apps, they even have height filters. Right. People are filtering. I'd be screwed on. It's insane. Like, and it completely takes away. You see a few, I think it was Bumble. Yeah. Who, because it was the one where. The whole thing was the women had to do it first.

52:11They took that back now because it wasn't working. You know, so even the apps are like, this isn't really working very well. But they want as many people to stay on the apps for as long as possible. So when you see like there's nobody's really rooting for your empowerment here. There's numbers behind all of this and reason behind all of this. Yes. They want you single. And again, you may not care about this, right? You may have met your partner and been in love for a long time. But it's just not a good sign for society. We should all care.

52:44Andrew Yang:I mean, I'm married, but I'm like sand for what's happening to large numbers of unattached men sort of just like ambling through the day. It's just not good for a society no matter what. Right. All right. Now I'm really going to let you go. But Andrew, I want to I want to ask you about something you're working on now. This sort of dovetails again with what we were talking about called Noble Mobile. It's a tell me. I actually didn't know about this at all. So tell me just. Check it out. Check it out. Check it out. So Andrew Yang wants to make you less broke. So runs for president to try and give you money.

53:16Andrew Yang:Loses, unfortunately, first of all. Congratulations, everyone. But then I was like, well, you know, there must be a way that I can make you less broke even now. And my friend Mark Cuban started a company called Cost Plus Drugs. I call Mark and like, Mark, you're a genius. This is great. You know, everyone saves money on generic drugs. And I thought, is there anything else that we all spend money on that I can cost plus? So you go down the list of expenses for the average American household and it goes, in case you're curious, housing, health care, education, food, fuel, transportation, media. And the number eight is wireless.

53:49Andrew Yang:The average American spending$83 a month on your wireless. Average, how much do you spend? Verizon, guessing? Verizon, yeah. Yeah, it's like$100. Yeah, I was spending$150 on Verizon before I wised up. Average European spending$35 a month. So that delta of$48 a month times this all,$100 billion a year in extra spend. And this is immovable money. Like everybody needs a cell phone. Yeah, yeah. So that's like, oh, it's like oxygen. But it turns out we're all getting gouged on our oxygen. Of course. So then I went to the carriers and said, hey, which of you will give the best deal possible to the American people?

54:21Andrew Yang:T-Mobile said, we'll play ball. So now go to noblemobile.com and you can get unlimited data for most people are paying us$40 a month. And if you don't use data, we give you half the money back at the end of the month. So it becomes an angel on your shoulder saying don't doom scroll that extra hour because you're costing yourself like a smidgen of money. Oh, wow. Yes. Can you see how much you're saving? You have a meter and this little angel. So it's like behavioral economics on your behalf, but it'll also chop your bill in half. And so I'm saving myself over$1 ,000 a year. If you go to noblemobile.com slash yang, you can get three months for free.

55:02Andrew Yang:I'm still the magical Asian man from the future trying to dole out money. But in this case, it's money in the form of savings on data because, you know, like we all breathe. It's brilliant. And it helps young men, too, because all of this Institute for Family Studies now shows how much they're on the phone. It's brainwashing my kids. Brainwashing me on a bad day. Yeah. No, I mean, it's something we all struggle with. Yeah, even with this. And then you have things like gambling, pornography that are specifically targeting sports betting. They're specifically targeting young men. Again, I see it in my own cohort.

55:34It's like, why are we talking? Like, we used to just talk about basketball games like the Knicks winning the game. Now it's like, oh, whether I get a parlay. Yeah, exactly. It's like, when did that start?

55:43Andrew Yang:By the way, the Bank of America thing just came out showing that if you gamble online, you'll have 40 percent less savings or something ridiculous. I mean, it's crazy. But I believe it. Yes. And it's like over half of young men are gambling today. And obviously the house always wins, as we know, in Vegas. But it really always wins. It's behind closed doors. People in their showers. All of your friends are the only ones who are smart enough to win.

56:10It's not even smart.

56:11Andrew Yang:I mean, it's not a smart thing. No, of course. All right. Let's leave it there. It was a lot to digest. Lisa Britton. We'll put all these links in the description. Her work is at Evie Magazine. Andrew Yang, most recent book, Where's My Thousand Bucks? Look, you even signed it for me? I did. Amazing. Thank you, man. The op-ed is on Newsweek.com. We'll link to that as well as Noble Mobile. Check that out and try it out for three months free. That's pretty cool. Three months free. That's what I'm talking about. I'll probably save you$300. Free money guy right here. Off the bat. Huh? Ryan Reynolds has nothing on me.

56:42Andrew Yang:Look at this. Plus, I'm American. You're great. And I'll say it again, Andrew Yang, you were ahead of your time. I hope we hear more from you in some form or another coming up in 2028. I appreciate it, man. And Lisa, thank you very much. See you guys soon.