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Episode Summary This episode discusses the recent announcement from Ilya Sutskever, co-founder of OpenAI, about his new company, Safe Superintelligence (SSI), which has successfully raised $1 billion before launching a product. The podcast also covers various news updates related to AI, including potential advancements in AI models, market reactions, and the implications of corporate strategies in the AI sector.
Key Topics
- Ilya Sutskever and Safe Superintelligence
- Background: Ilya Sutskever, a prominent figure in the AI community and former co-founder of OpenAI, has founded a new company called Safe Superintelligence, which aims to create safe superintelligence.
- Funding Announcement: SSI has raised $1 billion with a valuation of approximately $5 billion.
- Mission: The company focuses on developing superintelligence while ensuring safety measures are prioritized alongside technological advancements. Their approach aims to create a distraction-free environment, allowing for focused research and development.
- Excitement Over New AI Models
- GPT-NEXT Speculation: At the KDDI summit, a representative from OpenAI Japan hinted at a new AI model, possibly named GPT-NEXT, expected to be 100 times more powerful than current models, leading to public excitement and speculation.
- Interpretation Challenges: There are concerns that the anticipation could be based on misinterpretations of the presentation, emphasizing the need for caution in such announcements.
- Market Reactions and Economic Implications
- NVIDIA Market Performance: NVIDIA faced significant losses due to a subpoena from the U.S. Department of Justice amid antitrust investigations, leading to a historical drop in market cap.
- Broader Economic Effects: The podcast discusses how NVIDIA's situation impacts investor sentiment in the broader tech market, with fears of economic uncertainty influencing stock performance.
- Corporate Strategies in AI
- Acquihire Trends: Amazon has recently hired the founders of Covariant, showcasing a trend where companies acquire talent without taking on full acquisitions.
- Apple's AI Integration: Apple’s upcoming iPhone release is noted as a critical test for the integration of AI features into consumer products, with skepticism about whether this will drive sales.
- Controversies in AI Media Representation
- Oprah's AI Special: The upcoming AI television special featuring Oprah sparked controversy and criticism from tech critics who view it as a marketing effort rather than a genuine exploration of AI's impact.
Key Takeaways
- Investment Landscape: The episode highlights a bifurcation in the AI investment landscape, where some investors view the potential for enormous returns as justification for high-risk investments in companies like SSI.
- Importance of Safety in AI Development: SSI's focus on safety in superintelligence development reflects an increasingly critical stance in the AI community regarding the ethical implications of advanced AI technologies.
- Public Sentiment and Media: The excitement and skepticism surrounding AI advancements underscore a complex relationship between the public, media representations, and the actual capabilities of AI technologies.
Conclusion The episode provides a thorough overview of the current trends and controversies in the AI field, particularly focusing on Ilya Sutskever's new venture and its implications for the future of AI development. As the market reacts to both technological advancements and economic indicators, the conversation around AI safety, investment, and public perception continues to evolve.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Today on the AI Daily Brief, OpenAI co-founder Ily Osucuskever's Safe Superintelligence Inc. has raised$1 billion. Before that on the brief, the president of OpenAI Japan seems to indicate that GPT-NEXT is coming and it's 100 times more powerful than GPT-4. The AI Daily Brief is a daily podcast and video about the most important news and discussions in AI. To join the conversation, follow the Discord link in our show notes. Welcome back to the AI Daily Brief Headlines Edition, all the daily AI news you need in around five minutes. We kick off the day with a conversation that ripped around Twitter slash X yesterday, at the KDDI summit, a representative from OpenAI Japan shared a slide that seemed to indicate that GPT-Next, which was in quote, so isn't necessarily an official name, is set to be 100x more powerful than the GPT-4 era models we have now.
0:48The speaker was Tadon Nagasaki, who was announced back in April as the president of OpenAI Japan. Now, the way that Twitter slash X is taking this is that this 100x improvement on GPT-Next is a specific real estimate rather than a demonstration of the exponentiality of AI, and that GPT-NEXT is the name of the model. I'm not totally sure that something isn't being lost in translation. It seems fairly possible to me that this slide was meant to just represent the exponential nature of AI growth, and that the slide which said GPT-NEXT in 2024 and had it at 100x more powerful than the GPT-4 era was not, in fact, saying that the next model would be called GPT-NEXT, that it would come out in 2024, or that it would be 100x more powerful, but instead was more meant as a demonstration, and then just got picked up and ripped around the internet as the internet does.
1:34Still, I think the excitement around it shows just how hungry for whatever comes beyond GPT-4 people are. And frankly, it was probably pretty dangerous to put this in a slide if it wasn't actually claiming that GPT-Next was coming out this year and was going to be 100 times more powerful. One of the things we've been discussing a lot recently is Wall Street's relationship with AI. NVIDIA had a terrible day yesterday, wiping out$279 billion. That is the single biggest day of market cap loss in history. Over the last three sessions, since it reported earnings, it's now down 14%. Now, part of the specific reason for NVIDIA's losses was that the U.S.
2:09Department of Justice has apparently sent a subpoena to NVIDIA as part of a larger antitrust probe. Bloomberg characterizes the antitrust probe as escalating. As they put it, the DOJ, which has previously delivered questionnaires to companies, is now sending legally binding requests that oblige recipients to provide information. This takes the government a step closer to launching a formal complaint. The concern is that NVIDIA is making it harder to switch to other suppliers and penalize buyers that don't exclusively use its chips. Now, while some of the issues may be NVIDIA-specific, NVIDIA's place as a bellwether for the rest of the market means that these big losses have people looking at downstream implications as well.
2:44Again, Bloomberg writes, NVIDIA route has traders watching$100 share level amid vacuum. After earnings, there are few potential catalysts on the horizon. Said Michael Kerbride, portfolio manager at Evercore Wealth, we're in a bit of a void right now. We're through with earnings and there's lots of economic data coming up this month. There's a lot of caution ahead of that. When you're in a trading vacuum, it becomes a shoot first market that is very short term in nature. And indeed, it does seem like broader uncertainty is coming home to roost as the main market force. The information writes, just what we needed a stock market chill to remind us that summer is over.
3:15Investors on Wall Street were dumping stocks left, right and center on Tuesday after anemic manufacturing data reminded people of economic uncertainties they had put out of their minds. Tech stocks were a sea of red from the smallest to the biggest. Later they write, enthusiasm for both Microsoft and NVIDIA has been dampened by questions about the staying power of corporate spending on AI chips. Apple stock, meanwhile, has outperformed other big tech stocks in the past three months. Its rally may be premature, however, as Apple can't escape its own version of the AI question. The company next week unveils its newest iPhone, which means we're closer to seeing whether the addition of AI features can jumpstart stalled iPhone sales.
3:47There's no guarantee that consumers will be any more willing to spend for AI-powered services than businesses are. This should be an interesting fall. That was reflected in a conversation on CNBC with a portfolio manager who said, we like Apple for its sustained business model, not its AI story. Anyways, lots of interesting things coming up in the weeks ahead when it comes to the markets. Next story today, we have yet another acquihire non-acquisition thing. Amazon has hired the founders of the industrial robotics company Covariant. The company was last valued at$625 million back in April 2023.
4:19And once again, this same model of hiring the founders and licensing the startup's foundation models is the alternative to an actual acquisition. Only around a quarter of the company's employees are joining Amazon, all who will be joining the fulfillment technologies and robotics team. I don't know how this trend ends, but I do know that if startups keep selling themselves and ditching out on the payday for half or more of the company, it's going to be a lot harder to hire people into startups. Lastly today, the Oprah AI special hasn't even come out, and already it's controversial. Ars Technica writes, Oprah's upcoming AI television special sparks outrage among tech critics.
4:53AI opponents say Gates Altman and others will guide Oprah through an AI sales pitch. The show is of course airing on September 12th and quote, aims to explore AI's impact on daily life. You can read the piece for yourself, but basically it shows once again, just how fraught the discourse around AI is. That's going to do it for today's AI Daily Brief Headlines edition. Next up, the main episode. Today's episode is brought to you by Venice. Venice is a private, uncensored, generative AI app. It accesses open-source models to enable text, image, and code generation without the fear of being spied on or having your data exploited.
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7:13One of the big questions surrounding the firing and then ultimately rehiring of Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI last year, was whether there was some advance, some technical innovation, some breakthrough that had happened that had spooked some folks inside OpenAI, creating a rift between them and Sam Altman in terms of how they would think about releasing that breakthrough onto the world. The way that this was popularized was a phrase, what did Ilya see? Ilya was, of course, referring to Ilya Sitzkever, one of the original co-founders of OpenAI and the company's chief scientist. On November 24th, as the whole thing was happening, A16Z's Marc Andreessen wrote, seriously though, what did Ilya see?
7:53Elon Musk responded, yeah, something scared Ilya enough to want to fire Sam. What was it? For months, this conversation persisted, despite the fact that all the people involved with OpenAI said that it wasn't an issue of safety that caused their firing of Sam Altman, and a board review after that found the same thing, the question never really went away. And whatever the answer to the question was, it seemed pretty clear to many that Ilya was probably not long for OpenAI. Even though he had dramatically switched sides and come back to working with the company and supporting Sam Altman, he was largely absent for the following six months.
8:25Indeed, it was almost exactly six months until May when Ilya announced on Twitter, after almost a decade, I've made the decision to leave OpenAI. He continued, The company's trajectory has been nothing short of miraculous, and I'm confident that OpenAI will build AGI that is both safe and beneficial. It was an honor and a privilege to have worked together, and I will miss everyone dearly. So long and thanks for everything. I'm excited for what comes next, a project that is very personally meaningfully to me, about which I will share details in due time. A little over a month later, we started to get some details.
8:52Ilya announced that he was starting a new company called Safe Superintelligence, or SSI. The company announced itself with a post on X, superintelligence is within reach. Building safe superintelligence, SSI, is the most important technical problem of our time. We've started the world's first straight shot SSI lab with one goal and one product, a safe superintelligence. It's called Safe Super Intelligence, Inc. SSI is our mission, our name, and our entire product roadmap because it is our sole focus. Our team, investors, and business model are all aligned to achieve SSI. We approach safety and capabilities in tandem as technical problems to be solved through revolutionary engineering and scientific breakthroughs.
9:29We plan to advance capabilities as fast as possible while making sure our safety always remains ahead. This way, we can scale in peace. Our singular focus means no distraction by management overhead or product cycles, and our business model means safety, security, and progress are all insulated from short-term commercial pressures. The founders of the company included not only Ilya, but prominent AI investor Daniel Gross, as well as AI scientist Daniel Levy. Now, upon the announcement, there was some skepticism. AI safetyist Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote, If you have an alignment plan I can't shoot down in 120 seconds, let's hear it.
9:59So far, you have not said anything different from the previous packs of disaster monkeys, who all said exactly this almost verbatim, but I'm open to hearing better. Still, by and large, the sentiment was excitement, with more than a fair bit of speculation around just how much this company was going to raise. The sense around the AI space was that ILIA likely had a blank check. And now, a couple months later, that certainly appears to be the case. Today, once again, they tweeted, SSI is building a straight shot to safe superintelligence. We've raised$1 billion from NFTG, A16Z, Sequoia, DSD Global, and SV Angel.
10:31The announcement also came with an exclusive in Reuters about what the company wanted to build. Additional details shared in Reuters, the$1 billion came at apparently around a$5 billion valuation, adding in perhaps the most duh sentence I've ever read, the funding underlines how some investors are still wanting to make outsized bets on exceptional talent focused on foundational AI research. The rest of the Reuters article doesn't have that much in the way of details. SSI is saying that it plans to partner with cloud providers and chip companies to fund computing power needs, but hasn't decided who it will work with.
11:00Reuters also writes, Sitzgevra was an early advocate of scaling, a hypothesis that AI models would improve in performance given vast amounts of computing power. The idea and its execution kicked off a wave of AI investment in chips, data centers, and energy, laying the groundwork for generative AI advances like ChatGPT. Ilya says he will approach scaling in a different way than his former employer without sharing details. He said, everyone just says scaling hypothesis. Everyone neglects to ask, what are we scaling? Some people can work really long hours and they'll just go down the same path faster.
11:27It's not so much our style, but if you do something different, then it becomes possible for you to do something special. So basically, there is a sense of some different approach that they're going to take, although what that different approach is remains obscure or hidden at least to the public. In terms of immediate reactions, some of the discussion was about technical debates. Karam Kaya writes,
11:56Others pointed out that this probably had something to say about the current state of AI funding. Accelerate Harder writes, If you were wondering if AI investment is drying up, here's a$1 billion raise for a company that probably doesn't even have a demo yet. Sure, it's about the team, but that's still quite a data point. Mark Andreessen said, we at A16Z are delighted to be on the SSI team and enthusiastic about the mission and strategy. Now, I want to talk about this idea, as reiterated here by Andrew Curran, that SSI's only goal and product is superintelligence. For many, this idea that you could raise a billion dollars on a$5 billion valuation just on the strength of a team will seem ludicrous.
12:30They will take it as a sign that the AI bubble is reaching some sort of peak. However, I think that there is a fundamental bifurcation in the way that people are looking at the AI space, particularly when it comes to AGI or superintelligence. On the one hand are those who view AI through a traditional business lens of needing to have a return on investment. This is where we get the type of analysis expressed in Sequoia's AI's$600 billion question, although I will note that Sequoia was listed among the SSI investors. In any case, the idea here is that the big tech hyperscalers have spent a huge amount building out AI infrastructure and are significantly in the hole on that investment, at least a half trillion dollars.
13:05On the flip side, though, are those who think that the opportunity is so large that the possibility of winning that dwarfs any cost right now. As summed up by VC Sarah Tavel in a recent blog post, if you're a big stack player like Meta, Microsoft, Google, or any of the other foundation model pure plays, you have no choice but to keep raising your bet. The prize and power of winning is too great. If you blink, you are left empty-handed watching someone else count your chips. It's likely hundreds of billions will be destroyed and trillions earned. Later, she writes, The prize is theoretically so large, and if a clear winner emerges, their market opportunity so uncapped, you have to keep increasing your bet.
13:41This, I think, is the simple logic behind all of this investment. It's as simple as trillions of dollars of upside, handicapped at the possibility that any particular team wins. One of the things that I think is most interesting about SSI's approach is that while many are wondering how they're ever going to return on investment when they say they won't have any sort of business model or commercial distractions, I actually wonder if some of investors are sitting there thinking to themselves that that lack of distraction is actually the optimal way to pursue AGI. While XAI, Google, Meta, and Microsoft are all messing around with quarterly reports and the fickle vagaries of Wall Street expectations, SSI blissfully ignores any sort of commercial pressure.
14:21There's a certain logic there that I think people are missing. Then again, the question is where will the next billion dollars or really the next 10 billion come from? As we've discussed recently, even having raised$13 or$14 billion at this point, OpenAI is likely heading back to the well for more. Will SSI be able to raise similar-sized funds? Or, because they're not planning on releasing a ChatGPT competitor, will their costs be dramatically lower? There are all these really interesting questions that to me keep coming back to the idea that a team that's totally unencumbered by any sort of commercial pressure or consumer product pressure might actually be in a better position to win this space.
14:57But of course, we're just going to have to wait and see. In any case, it's clear that they have some resources to go after this new mountain, as Ilya called it, and it will be very interesting to see what they come up with. For now, though, that's going to do it for today's AI Daily Brief. Until next time, peace.
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