In short
Arsenal’s 1994 European Cup Winners’ Cup run, framed as the club’s “cup team” identity—how camaraderie, defensive structure, and set-piece belief carried them through injuries, suspensions, and underdog status.
Guests (backgrounds)
Gary Lewin, Arsenal women’s physio; Alan Smith, former Arsenal striker; Amy Lawrence, football journalist; Tim Stillman, Arsenal historian; Nigel Winterburn, former Arsenal defender; Clive Palmer, Arsenal podcaster.
Key claims
Winning the 1993 Cup Double created knockout mentality and team camaraderie; Ian Wright’s absence (injury/suspension) tested the side; Arsenal’s European success relied on a disciplined defensive core (back four/back five), midfield solidity, and confidence to score from set pieces; George Graham’s tactics and preparation for Europe (serious officiating, travel differences, scouting) enabled results.
Notable examples
May 4, 1994 final vs Parma in Copenhagen—1-0; Wright crying in a bath at halftime of the PSG semi-final because he’d be suspended for the final; Nov 3, 1993 second leg vs Standard Liège—Arsenal won 7-0 (7-0 aggregate, 10-0 tie), with goals from Alan Smith, Ian Selle, Tony Adams, Kevin Campbell, and others.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting the Stage for 1994
0:00 to 1:53
Learn about the atmosphere and challenges faced by Arsenal before the Cup final in 1994.
“Current Arsenal women's physio Gary Lewin.”
Traveling and Preparing for Matches
1:53 to 3:40
Discover how travel and accommodations impacted Arsenal's performance in Europe.
“Part 4, A Cup Team With October behind them, Arsenal started November with the second leg of the second-round matchup against Standard Liège.”
The Second Leg Against Standard Liège
3:40 to 7:59
Explore the events and significance of the second leg match against Standard Liège.
“He was succeeded by Rene van der Aiken, who was at the helm on November 3rd when the two sides met again, though the outcome would ultimately contribute to making his tenure short-lived as well.”
Unprecedented Performance After Wrigh'ts Absence
7:59 to 8:35
Arsenal's record-breaking performance in the absence of Ian Wright showcases their strength.
Goals Galore and a Dominating Victory
8:35 to 14:00
Relive the thrilling moments and goals that led Arsenal to a commanding win over Standard Liège.
“and against different sorts of opponents.”
Arsenal's Dominance in the Match
14:00 to 15:28
Learn about Arsenal's overwhelming victory and its significance for the club.
“Kept things moving along nicely through the midfield.”
Shifting Dynamics in Domestic Performance
15:28 to 16:21
Explore Arsenal's domestic challenges following their European success.
“though they'd have to wait until March to take that next step in their European quest.”
Transition to a Cup Team
16:21 to 17:36
Understand how Arsenal evolved into a cup-focused team during a pivotal period.
“Well, we had become a cup team, it's fair to say, although we hadn't won a cup during that little spell.”
The Impact of Ian Wright
17:36 to 19:16
Discuss Ian Wright's unique influence on Arsenal's strategy and identity.
“And he changed to 4-3-3 in Europe to make us more solid in midfield.”
Cup Success vs League Ambitions
19:16 to 21:33
Analyze the balance between cup success and league ambitions for Arsenal.
“But what happened was that it made George Graham realize that his two finest qualities in his team were his phenomenal back four that he created.”
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The Perception of Arsenal as a Cup Team
21:33 to 23:26
Examine how the perception of Arsenal as a cup team developed over time.
“You know, taking that cupped team aspect into Europe was massive.”
The Evolution of Arsenal's Identity
23:26 to 26:04
Discover the evolution of Arsenal's identity and its implications for the team.
“So it wasn't too far away, that Chelsea away loss.”
The Triumphs of the Cup Team Era
26:04 to 28:01
Reflect on the successes and challenges of Arsenal during the cup team era.
“Teams had to be shaped by a single chosen identity.”
The Evolution of Arsenal's Cup Identity
28:01 to 30:00
Learn how Arsenal's identity as a cup team developed amidst changing competition.
“Manchester United were growing in strength.”
The Evolution of Arsenal's Cup Identity
30:36 to 31:25
Learn how Arsenal's identity as a cup team developed amidst changing competition.
“12 browser tabs, and one spreadsheet that everyone's afraid to touch, It's probably time for Odoo.”
David Rocastle's Impact and Team Changes
31:35 to 34:35
Explore the significance of David Rocastle's departure on Arsenal's strategy.
“both times beating Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 in the League Cup final and 2-1 in the FA Cup final replay.”
Changing Tactics in Arsenal's Cup Journey
34:35 to 40:43
Understand how Arsenal's tactical evolution shaped its identity as a cup team.
“I think he was heavily influenced by it.”
Historical Context of Arsenal's Tactical Evolution
40:43 to 42:07
Learn about the historical shifts in Arsenal's tactics and management styles.
“You know, they are athletes much more than they were in my time.”
Evolution of Arsenal's Tactical Identity
42:07 to 44:23
Explore the tactical evolution of Arsenal FC through various managerial tenures.
“He's known for introducing the WM formation, featuring three defenders, two halfbacks, two inside forwards, and three attackers.”
The Shift to Cup Success
44:23 to 45:54
Learn about Arsenal's transition to focusing on cup competitions and its impact.
“this defensive identity became not just the primary identity, but by some standards, the only identity.”
Attitude Towards Competitions
45:54 to 47:28
Discover how player attitudes changed in response to different competitions.
“rounds of the Cup Winners' Cup in late 93 and early 94, the gaffer would play with a 4-5-1, switching to 4-4-3 and attack, emphasizing defensive solidity first and attacking prowess second.”
Looking Ahead to Future Success
47:28 to 48:07
Reflect on Arsenal's potential for future victories as they become a cup team.
“the squad was just a few years removed from a league title.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Current Arsenal women's physio Gary Lewin. It felt like a continuation to me. Winning the Cup Double the year before and getting into that knockout mentality, I think, really helped us in 94. I think the team, because we actually went into the final with a couple of injuries and suspensions, which made it really difficult. but the biggest thing for me was if you talk to any successful team the biggest thing players and staff will talk about is a camaraderie between the team and I think winning the two Cups the year before really set us in a place where the team spirit was fantastic and there were times when we played I think it was all there away when we really struggled and right he scored an absolute screamer and then the semi-final against PSG.
0:57Righty got booked and he knew that he was suspended for the final. At half-time, he was sitting in the bath crying his eyes out because he knew he was missing the final. Things like that happen. It's that team spirit, that camaraderie that you build up over a period of time that really takes the team to that next level. The final was a classic. Everyone wrote us off in the final against one of the best teams in Europe. We didn't have Righty. We had a couple of injured players as well. I know our midfield was very, very inexperienced. But we all stuck together. We had a game plan. We knew what we wanted to do, and we became boring past them.
1:40On May 4th, 1994, Arsenal travelled to Copenhagen, undermanned and decidedly as underdogs, to face Parma in the European Cup Winners' Cup final. This is 1-0 to the Arsenal, the story of the 1994 European Cup Winners' Cup victory. I'm your host, Kent Malmros. Part 4, A Cup Team
2:08With October behind them, Arsenal started November with the second leg of the second-round matchup against Standard Liège. The Gunners had to travel to Belgium for a game on November 3rd, but had a three-goal lead in hand, making that road trip more palatable.
2:27Gary Lewin. Yeah, so for me, the biggest changes were the travel. They're staying in hotels. When you go abroad, you're never quite sure of the standard that you're going to be staying at. The food, the quality of the food. um i mean what we think is pasta and what the italians think of pasta is two different things i remember when arson first come over and he was with the japanese national team they used to take their rice everywhere with their own rice because they couldn't get rice anywhere else in the world so it was things like that and then and then the actual ground the atmosphere in the ground european supporters are very different to domestic supporters um uh the way the pitches are the standard of the pitches, the way the games are refereed are completely different.
3:16As a physiotherapist, the interaction between the officials and you is completely different. Whereas in domestically, you'll be talking English to the referee and you might be having a joke and a laugh and you'll be talking about in Europe it was dead serious and they didn't always speak great English. So it was the finer changes that made the big difference, I think. yeah historically i i remember we once played in our early days in europe we went to ukraine and we had to take all our vacuumed meat with us they vacuumized the meat in these plastic bags put it in freezers and take it with us and we had to go through all the agricultural laws and all the permits and licenses to take that with us so yeah i mean it's changed it has changed dramatically
4:09Not only did that win give Arsenal a commanding lead in the round, but it also created discord at standard as manager Ari Hahn, who had been with the team since July of 1991, left his position just days after the 3-0 defeat. He was succeeded by Rene van der Aiken, who was at the helm on November 3rd when the two sides met again, though the outcome would ultimately contribute to making his tenure short-lived as well. That day was celebratory for the Gunners, before the whistle even blew as Ian Wright's 30th birthday gave the team an off-field rallying cry. Happy birthday to you! Thank you. Happy birthday to you!
5:09Though with a yellow card in the competition already, Graham kept right out of the matchday squad to avoid the chance of a second yellow and subsequent suspension. renowned arsenal historian tim stillman and i think a lot of us had a lot of curiosity about what's this going to look like without ian wright like how are we even going to play like because he just played all of the games all of the time and you know never substituted or anything like that so you know it's like oh it looks like he's gone a bit 4-3-3 here and um you know like i said earlier that ends up being unwittingly a dress rehearsal for the final in a very different way I think in the final it's much more of a 4-5-1 than a 4-3-3 whereas I think there's almost the sense in this game that probably they just had a level of freedom that they weren't really getting um at that stage under George where you're 3-0 up Ian Wright's not playing as well it's almost like um you know it's almost like they're allowed to play acid jazz you know they don't have to play the hits in this one it's like they can have a bit of a yeah i can have a bit of a jamming session um here and and actually that's that's a slightly uh i think underrated element of george graham's management that that he did let them off the leash sometimes there's a story in the year um in the preceding this they play in the 93 charity shield against manchester united they go to penalties weirdly david seaman ends up taking a penalty and missing and apparently one of the and he's i think he's like the fourth penalty taker so arson were not taking it seriously and uh it turned out afterwards that george graham had no idea that the game was going to go to penalties um they because they used to just share the charity shield if there was a draw and i think this was the first year they introduced penalties and he had no idea so when they came to do that so there were some very odd penalty takers like it's not who you'd think and it really was because he was like yeah I don't care go on then you can take one but also like something you would not associate with George Graham that there were you know like the players used to call him Gaddafi but there were times I mean when you look at maybe some of the drinking habits of some of those players there were times where he turned a blind eye to things and I think this game this second leg was probably a bit of, you know, not that George doesn't care, you know, but we've probably got a bit of freedom here.
7:42Without right, it was fair to wonder who would provide the goals. But that proved an unfounded concern as Arsenal delivered a record-breaking performance against Liege. Legendary Arsenal striker, Alan Smith. Well, yeah, I mean, as you say, we certainly didn't expect to be rattling home, was it seven away from home uh you know so yeah i mean i got the first goal that night which which was a nice one for me as i said i wasn't scoring freely that season so um to get us off the mark in europe that was pleasing nice volley kind of at the far post but then i twisted my ankle and i had to come off um but uh that was disappointing but to see see us rattling home those goals it was uh it was fantastic and i suppose at that point you're thinking oh hold on a minute you know we might have a chance in this competition.
8:33We're looking pretty good. And the further you go along, the more comfortable you get in playing in Europe and against different sorts of opponents. So, yeah, it was a bit of a standout game for us. I'm sure the fans at that point thought, oh, we've got a chance this year.
8:55Within two minutes of the opening whistle, Arsenal had put the tie away. Paul Merson delivered a beautiful weighted cross from just outside the top right corner of the box to a plunging Alan Smith to make it 1-0 and 4-0 in aggregate.
9:14It's Merson. It looked maybe to banish any doubts at all with a goal. Here's Merson taking that ball from Selly. Smith on the far side! And exactly what Arsenal required! That opening goal is a little more than two minutes gone. And that's good night, standard liege. Only Alan Smith's second goal of the season. And what a good one it was. Excellent work by Merson leading to it. And Smith, who pulled away on that far side, getting the volley 1-0. No one would have blamed Graham and his team for moving in neutral at that point and relying on the famous back four to simply lock down the rest of the game and help the team advance to the quarterfinals.
10:04Instead, a long line of gunners had a chance to add their names to the score sheet. It took another 18 minutes, but the second strike came on a counterattacking action. After a rare Liege opportunity, David Seaman collected a cross, played a throw early to Lee Dixon, who delivered a 60-yard progressive pass to Kevin Campbell on the right channel. Super Kev picked his head up, saw Smith and Merson streaking towards the net, and delivered a cross of his own. Merson couldn't quite handle it, but managed a touch that acted as a perfect layoff for a sprinting Ian Selle, who finished the team's second goal with an audacious outside foot strike that rifled into the bottom corner of the net.
10:442-0. And here's Winterbone for Arskel. Trying to get it down the line. Cut out once again. was by Jenner well handled though by Seaman and Dixon quick on the break and Campbell even quicker on the break Smith and Merson are waiting in the middle will it come to Merson it may not but it might come to City it's another one for Arsenal
11:22Terrific goal by Youngie and Selle. And Arsenal go two in the lead. What a great break, starting from Dixon, taken on by Campbell. The cross came in, the ball came loose, and Selle walloped it home for number two. And they were far from done. Tony Adams and Campbell each added on before halftime, making it 4-0. thing.
11:56Arsenal back to full strength, Alan Smith back on and taking up a position inside that standard liage six yard area. As Paul Davis will hoist another corner in for Arsenal, leading by two goals to nil, 5-0 on aggregate.
12:15and knocked in and pushed away, Tony Adams! It's 3-0!
12:30This is developing into a route now. Beautiful corner served in well there by Davis, Campbell knocked it out, Vidalong can only shovel it out to Adams.
12:56Kevin Campbell 41 minutes gone 7-0 on aggregate Brainstoff again just lifting it over Murneron it's not just a rout it's a massacre now incredible performance and all remember without Ian Wright.
13:22Even as a fan, Wright was impressed by his teammates. Then Campbell scored again along with Merson and Eddie McGoldrick in the second half. Came off Merson. McGoldrick.
13:42He's gone around his man beautifully. There's the cross coming in towards Masson!
13:49Well, if anybody deserved a goal tonight, it was Paul Masson. Now, that's Arsenal's fifth, and they lead 8-0. And Standard have never been an English side in European competition. Masson with number five.
14:09A gold rack. The little touch again for Davis. Kept things moving along nicely through the midfield. Davis and his good work by Eddie McGoldrick. And it's another one! And it's Campbell!
14:25And probably got the touch. And Arsenal take the score to six and the aggregates to nine.
14:38Goldrick did so well here yes and Campbell just got the touch that mattered his second goal Arsenal's sixth
14:54safe landing again by Seymour not only that a super tour but since Merson racing forward McColdrick again. What an amazing goal to David McColdrick.
15:12Sheer simplicity from one end of the field to another. An astonishing goal on a truly astonishing night. The leg would end 7-0, the tie 10-0, and Arsenal sailed through to their quarterfinal matchup, though they'd have to wait until March to take that next step in their European quest. It was a game that a few thousand fans watched on brand new Jumbotron screens at Highbury, so they had a chance to celebrate together. It gave the Arsenal community a strong start to what would be an up and down month domestically. Because just three days later, Arsenal lost at home to Aston Villa 2-1. Then a congested end of the month proved better, with the Gunners beating Chelsea 2-1 at Stamford Bridge on the 20th, before managing just a 0-0 draw at West Ham on the 24th, but finally beating Newcastle at home 2-1 on the 27th.
16:05Those results had Arsenal in third place domestically, but already well off the pace of Manchester United. That meant that season was, once again, headed towards a cup focus.
16:21Alan Smith. Well, we had become a cup team, it's fair to say, although we hadn't won a cup during that little spell. That was the disappointing aspect, I think, everybody involved who'd been there when we'd won the league in 89 and 91. And then we kind of tailed off and we weren't challenging at the top, but we'd still got that amazing back four, stroke back five. and Ian Wright came to the club and, you know, obviously fantastic goal scorer. So we were kind of, we turned into this quite efficient cup team, which was a bit of a disappointment for us all. But he ended up winning trophies. So, but yeah, I do remember obviously the experience.
17:08As I say, we were having won the league a couple of times, then we weren't league challenges. So we're all disappointed about that. the players that have been involved. But the back four, the stroke back five was still, you know, our strength really. And Ian Wright had come to the club who could nick a goal out of nowhere. So we were a good cup team. And so it proved in the next few years. But George Graham decided to change the makeup of the side because he thought we were too open in the European Cup when we got knocked out by Benfica. And he changed to 4-3-3 in Europe to make us more solid in midfield.
17:46So on a Saturday, we'd play 4-4-2. Then on the Monday morning, we'd work on shape for the upcoming Wednesday game, as it normally was. And it worked really well. It made us more solid and obviously got us all the way through. But I don't think we had any massive expectations because compared to some others in the league at home, we weren't one of the best. so it's not like we went into it as favorites or anything like that, but we just hope that we give it a good go.
18:22The end of November gave the team a chance to avenge its loss against Villa just a few weeks earlier when the two sides met for a fourth-round League Cup match at Highbury. A 1-0 loss took the Gunners out of the competition and meant that for a Cup-focused team, they had two opportunities left for glory, the FA Cup and still the Cup Winners' Cup. Fortunately, Graham had built the squad just for this moment.
18:53Journalist Amy Lawrence. But what happened next was the Arsenal, the axis started to shift away from them being a league team to being a cup team. it's still even now a little bit puzzling as to as to why that happened but essentially being hard to beat was one of George's kind of golden aspirations for any team and when Ian Wright joined who was a kind of extraordinary presence to suddenly walk into Arsenal because he just seemed to be so different. He had this crazy energy and he was unpredictable and he wore his heart on his sleeve and nobody knew what he was going to do and he was a showman and, you know, this sort of slightly uptight Arsenal, you know, well-behaved class vibe.
19:55He was very different. But what happened was that it made George Graham realize that his two finest qualities in his team were his phenomenal back four that he created. And Ian Wright, who was this live wire striker who could do amazing things on his own. so I guess because of that it was just too tempting to to to be drawn into those two high high qualities as being the most important aspects of the team so maybe the the entirety of the team with different aspects got a little bit lost along the way so suddenly the league form dipped but as a cup team all the ingredients were there you you want to score against arsenal good luck uh can they get a goal against you yup if they do can you get back into the game not very easily so that's brilliant for cup football and in the you know they were very successful at it In 1993, they won two domestic trophies, both the first time it had ever been done to win them both.
21:19By being dogged and resilient and competitive and turning it on on a one-off occasion. And the next step was George's obsession. You know, taking that cupped team aspect into Europe was massive.
21:44Social media has created an echo chamber. Timelines for analysis are short, and the race to reach conclusions is fast. We take for granted that our ability to process events historically used to require time. Well, now we prejudice the historical significance of something happening in real time. But the immediate need to create historical context has always existed in sports to some degree. Football is no different. Whether it's an involuntary neurological response to embed the moment in your brain by creating contextual importance, or maybe the desire to compare something superhuman that you've just experienced to something in the past, in order to make sense of that surreal event you've seen in the present.
22:34It shouldn't be a surprise that before Twitter Instancy existed, there was an immediate sense in the early 90s that Arsenal shifted from league dominance to a cup team. On the surface, it's shocking because Graham's Gunners won the league in 89 in legendary fashion at Anfield, and then again two years later in 91. The idea that same squad was somehow no longer focused on the Premier League when the 93-94 campaign started was certainly wrong. But also the notion that focus had shifted to cups was already conceived, internalized, and accepted, not just by the fan base, but also by the players and the media.
23:22Arsenal great, Nigel Winterburn. I don't think we discussed it in great detail I think when you're on the start of a journey You get a feeling with a club and a group of players And you're sort of right We turned into a little bit of a cup team But I would say it would be later than after Because in 1991 we won the league only losing one game which is where I do some of the tours at the club now and I call myself nearly an invincible. So it wasn't too far away, that Chelsea away loss. So we were still a brilliant, brilliant league team. But I think you see that it's... I don't know for us, it seemed to, after we won the league, you hit such a high and you want to go on and achieve something greater but it is right, teams around you want to beat you that following season obviously we didn't do it again in 90 but we did it again in 91 92 no but then the 93 the 93 season was I know it did feel a little bit as if, you know, maybe you still focus on the league because the league is what you're really judged by.
24:59But we just had brilliant runs in the League Cup and the FA Cup in 93. And it did feel as if it was like it was a cup, you know, it turned into almost a bit of a cup team. But I don't think, you know, we felt, oh, we're not good enough to win the league now. Because when you've won stuff, you just think you can win everything. And then obviously Europe is, once you start winning things domestically, everybody, I don't know whether we talked about it as a group, But you know there's a feeling that you want to try and test yourself against some of the best teams in Europe, depending on what the competition we're in.
25:47But it didn't really matter back then what competition you're in. You were usually up against some very, very big and very, very strong teams.
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25:59The implications weren't made for lack of ambition. Rather, the opposite. In an era when teams weren't state-sponsored and couldn't spend hundreds of millions of dollars to build a roster so deep, the quadruple was truly an option. Choices had to be made. Teams had to be shaped by a single chosen identity. That's the origin of the idea that Arsenal had become a cup team. They built a team made to win those very competitions. With acceptance that Arsenal becoming a cup team wasn't based just on fan perception or the rapid circulation of a popular social media driven take, it's important to examine the results that drove that narrative through traditional linear media and good old fashioned interpersonal fan chat.
26:49Most of it taking place at the pub, of course. Graham's Arsenal coaching success actually started with a cup, though that's not what made them a cup team. While Arsenal finished fourth in the Gaffers' first season in charge, they went on to win the 1987 League Cup, beating Liverpool 2-1 at Wembley. Arsenal then lost the League Cup final the following year and found a path to domestic success quickly thereafter, winning the 88, 89, and 90, 91 league titles. After that early European loss to Benfica, the team's shift to cup specialists became rather apparent. Arsenal podcaster Clive Palmer.
27:54But you don't score enough goals, those draws kill you in a league situation. So, yeah, we just changed slightly. So I think it just sort of happened. You know, it sort of happened. And other teams were getting stronger. Manchester United were growing in strength. And so it just sort of happened around us, really. And so it was almost as though we said, okay, this is who we are. Let's focus on it then. You know, I remember going to League Cup final in 93. And it was a big game. Big game. you know and um it felt big to me you know and um we won that one now to get to a final again the same year against the same team oh can we do that and then and then we did you know and it was after replay and it was good it was just who we were right so it but that was okay at the time because there was there was three trophies that people really cared about you know for arsenal fans cared about and we were winning two of them you know so um and so that that's enough for bragging rights you know european competition seemed to be over there a bit for other teams didn't you know forest villa liverpool they were the teams that really did well in in europe leeds when i was much younger you know so um so yeah those are things so it felt over there a bit and we had our moment for a period you know in the mid 90s and then things started to change and then arson came in and then things changed in the dressing room etc etc so it developed it wasn't i don't think it's by design it was by this was left on the table and we're good at this and this team can keep clean sheets when they're focused and that's what you need to do in cup competitions don't you you know keep clean sheets when you're and score goals then you can decide and i can remember the one nil for the arson song i think it almost may have even started that night in Copenhagen.
29:45I could be wrong. But that was us. That was our identity. And we absorbed it. So when we scored in the final, well, nothing's going to tell me we weren't going to win. Get who they had. So then. Hey, World Cup fans. If you want proper analysis, honest opinions, and plenty of laughs along the way, give the rest is football a listen. Gary Lineker is joined by Alan Shearer and Micah Richards throughout the tournament as they break down all the big games, the biggest moments, and everything happening on and off the pitch. They'll also be chatting with some brilliant guests along the way. Whether you've watched soccer your whole life or you're just getting into it, they'll help make sense of the drama, the tactics, the joy, and the heartbreak of the World Cup.
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31:34In the 92-93 season, they were the first side to win the FA Cup and League Cup double, both times beating Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 in the League Cup final and 2-1 in the FA Cup final replay. It was that win that entered Arsenal into the Cup Winners Cup. And to win in Europe, Graham believed the team needed to play a certain way. In part three, we talked about the anatomy of that squad and roster and how it came to be. Mostly it was through the lens of incoming players. But to truly understand the shift informed Arsenal's identity as a cup team, we also have to talk about outgoings, about the true change in playing style that led both to the 94 Cup Winners' Cup win and ultimately Graham's departure.
32:20There's one move through which we can separate those two eras, the sale of David Rocastle. It's not that he was a top-class goal scorer or even a bang-on statue-level Arsenal legend. He was beloved, to be sure, having made his debut for the club in 1985 en route to 277 first-team appearances for the team, many of them taking place in successful campaigns. The month before his 20th birthday, he was part of that 87 League Cup win, a year in which he was named to the PFA Team of the Year. He also figured prominently in the team's 87-88 season, helping Arsenal win the Football League Centenary Trophy in a 2-1 victory over Manchester United.
33:01Rocky Roe Castle played every game in the 89 title-winning season and is remembered for a solo strike against Middlesbrough on November 19, 1988 and another audacious goal against Aston Villa on New Year's Eve. After a disappointing 89-90 season, Roe Castle was struggling with a knee injury and had a decline in form. And those struggles lingered into the following year when Rocky was limited to just 16 league appearances, though his presence helped the Gunners to another trophy. By the following season, it appeared he had returned to his full health, playing in 39 games and partnering in exciting fashion with new signing Ian Wright, his boyhood friend.
33:47But this is where the divergence begins. Roe Castle was a midfield player with flair, someone Arsene Wenger would describe as, quote, a modern player because the revolution of the game has gone on to more technique and more skill, end quote, and is having an exceptional dimension as a footballer. When he was sold to reigning league Champions, Leeds United, Arsenal fans were in disbelief. And there is lore around how Graham handled that transaction from a personal standpoint. The story of Graham telling Rocky in the parking lot in a seemingly impersonal way has been passed down through the Arsenal folklore.
34:28But the more pertinent piece of that story is what it represented, the first of a series of moves that would further emphasize the defensive identity for which Graham was then and would always be known.
34:45Amy Lawrence. I think he was heavily influenced by it. I think he felt having won the league twice, he wanted to test his mettle, his tactical ideas and intelligence, his philosophy against the best in Europe and the world rather than just the best in England. you know it it's it's quite hard to emphasize just how differently we felt about the global game back then just because you know in a pre-internet age um in a pre-mobile phone age you know there was so little football on tv um there was very little written about there wasn't a lot of access to what was going on in the wider world and sometimes the only time you got to see people as a fan was you know once every four years at the world cup or maybe in a European cup final but then they didn't even show the European cup final on tv when England English clubs were banned from Europe so it was very cut off and you're also dealing with an era where it precedes the kind of cross-fertilization and globalization of footballers going from different countries and playing in different leagues.
36:06So the English league was basically British. The French league was basically French. The Spanish league was basically Spanish. The Italian league was basically Italian. There were a few remarkable talents that would crop up. You know, Serie A was the glamorous league of the time and did attract the best Brazilians and Argentinians and this, that and the other. But in general, if you go and look at the World Cup squads from the 1990 World Cup, you will see that there are a lot of those competing nations where virtually every player played in their domestic league. so the whole concept of you know when when when Arsenal signed Anders Limpar in 1990 right and he was playing in Italy actually as a Swede so that in itself already was like wow but did anyone know anything about Anders Limpar any Arsenal fan you know nothing and that where did you look to try and find out about him there wasn't anywhere to look so when you compare that to you know the second that the club is linked with a player or maybe he isn't even linked with a player people are saying look at this um scouting report on so and so here's all these youtube clips the you know there's the kind of absolute immersion and bombardment of it's possible for the ordinary fan to be incredibly clued up about people from all over the world and their history, right?
37:42Well, believe it or not, it was, and I remember I'd been to the World Cup in 1990 as a fan, and I'd been to a Sweden game, and I'd actually seen Anders Lindpar, and I was like, oh, my God, I've seen this player. And that was like a ridiculous freak accident almost. so you know it is a very very different thing so when Arsenal play Benfica or when you know George Grahams preparing for that even getting even for their manager to get proper scouting reports and video VHSs of games to try and study and show the player you know this is who you're up against it was like looking at a bunch of people that you just had no idea who they were or what their qualities were.
38:34So it was very, very limited. And George was slightly ahead of the game because he was like, I am going to prepare. He did everything he possibly could to gen up on all his opponents and to prepare his team to play against whoever was coming up next.
38:57The exit of Rowe Castle led to the entrance of John Jensen, a bruising 5 '10 midfielder who was described as combative. Anders Limpar was similar to Roe Castle in that he was known for attacking flair and creativity. Off injured, the Swede delivered exciting wing play and crowd-pleasing goal contributions. But the acquisition of workmen like Eddie McGoldrick before the 93-94 season spelled the end for Limpar a few months later and marked yet another shift in mindset for the gaffer. Meanwhile, Arsenal's longtime fixture Paul Davis was another highly technical and creative midfielder. Though he remained with the club, Davis fell out of favor.
39:40It was clear how Graham was changing the image of the team, deepening the defensive identity and building a functional midfield with instant attacking prowess taking a backseat to workhorses with defense-first mindsets. That's what Graham believed was needed to compete with the biggest teams in Europe, because even as a cup team, that's the level of competition Europe would throw at his squad. And at the time, there wasn't the ability to create multiple team identities. Yes, there was similar fixture congestion, but in many respects, you had to choose your identity, build the roster, and then play out the season.
40:24Alan Smith. Oh no, it's changed definitely in terms of physical intensity. The game is now quicker and you know, it's just progress. Sports science is heavily involved. The pitches are better. The game, the ball moves faster. You know, they are athletes much more than they were in my time. But we didn't have the rotation so much that you see quite often now. not so much at Arsenal, because he hasn't really got the players to do it. But yeah, there's a lot more rotation. And it was kind of then, if Georgie's kind of first choice XI was fit, they'd play. So there were times where you felt a little bit jaded.
41:15But yeah, it is so much more exerting, I think, than he once was. And people go, oh, well, you play the same games, the number of games, you know, and we managed it back then. But yeah, it has changed a lot, I think, definitely on a physical level.
41:36There is no escaping the idea that tactically being a cup team translated to being a boring team. But that was just one example in the continuing tactical evolution that occurs at any club for any number of reasons. Arsenal fans know, at least at a high level, the way Arsenal's tactical history evolved through the various managerial eras that marked the club's progression, starting in real terms with the arrival of Herbert Chapman in 1925. He's known for introducing the WM formation, featuring three defenders, two halfbacks, two inside forwards, and three attackers. It was considered revolutionary and dominated football for decades to come.
42:20He also emphasized counterattacks, which was a contrast to the all-out attacking style most employed at the time. After Chapman's death in 1934, Arsenal continued to forge a unique tactical identity. George Allison and Tom Whitaker's tenures as manager maintained those core principles while making just subtle adjustments, bringing a long period of success for the team. Bernie Mee's tenure in the 1960s saw further refinements as well. He emphasized defensive organization while still allowing for more creativity and attack. And then Graham's appointment in 1986 marked the beginning of a whole new tactical era, one that emphasized mostly that defensive identity.
43:07His tactics were based primarily on discipline and organization. For current Arsenal fans under Mikel Arteta, this may sound familiar. Graham drilled his team regularly, ensuring tactical IQ with a standard that every player must know their role inside and out. And his approach extended to set pieces as well, where Arsenal became specialists. The team's ability to score from corners and free kicks became critical to its success.
43:41Gary Lewin. Coming down to George's teams was ingrained in you that if you did not concede, we would score from a set piece. And we always had that belief that as long as we didn't give anything away, at some stage during the game, we would score from a set piece. So every time you got a corner or a free kick, the confidence was very, very high. And the players really believed that. And I think that showed in the games. And again, you didn't have any computerized digital analysis. You had a bit of play from the wall.
44:17As the team shifted from league success to cup success with a focus on European success, this defensive identity became not just the primary identity, but by some standards, the only identity. And that came to a head during the 92-93 season. The season before, the team was the top scorer in the division with 81 goals, but scored just 40 in the first season of the Premier League. Arsenal scored less goals than any other side in the top flight, including Nottingham Forest, who finished bottom of the table. The dearth of goals led to a 10th place finish. The shift in focus was the culmination of a simple plan.
44:58Rely on the famous back four stroke back five, solidify that midfield, and then rely on the scoring prowess of Ian Wright, and basically Ian Wright alone. It was a stark change from the high-scoring, golden boot-winning ways of Alan Smith-led lines. But with Michael Thomas and Rocky gone, Paul Davis and Anders Limpar now out of favor, only an emerging Paul Merson produced that creative flair. David Hillier and John Jensen were now the core of that midfield group asked to do very different things. And while the domestic pace fell off, the shifting style of play to focus on cup outcomes, it worked.
45:38Arsenal was the first team in history to win both the domestic cups in the same season, beating Sheffield Wednesday, as we described before. Purely in the context of the cups, it was working, and that meant Graham would do more of it. As the team got into the later rounds of the Cup Winners' Cup in late 93 and early 94, the gaffer would play with a 4-5-1, switching to 4-4-3 and attack, emphasizing defensive solidity first and attacking prowess second. The tactical transformation was complete. But would it work?
46:18Alan Smith
46:22It's a funny one. There's comparisons, to be honest, with Manchester United and Spurs. This year, you know, 16th and 17th, but they both got into the Europa League finals. And it's one of those, you play on the Saturday, you're not playing with confidence, you lose the game, but come down to the Wednesday and you think, oh, OK, this is a different competition and we've been playing well in this, and your attitude towards it changes. and so you play better quite often. And, you know, as you say, if we've gone out the two domestic cup competitions, it's putting more importance on the cup winner's cup.
46:54And, yeah, it's funny how you can feel differently, although it's the same, you know, game of football. You might not have been playing particularly well, but then you go, oh, it's Europe. We've been doing well over here. Let's go again. So it's all to do with attitude, really.
47:14It's hard to truly recall how aware fans and players alike were at the time that Arsenal had transitioned into being a cup team. Hindsight is very powerful in this case, and as Nigel said, the squad was just a few years removed from a league title. By the end of November, however, a cup win of some sort was inarguably the team's best hope of silverware of some type that season. Still, they were getting fewer and fewer chances to produce. For Arsenal to deliver something memorable, it would likely have to come in Europe, with some of the best teams in the world still ahead of them, and a long wait to return to the Cup Winners' Cup, after defeating Standard Liège.
48:03That's all for Part 4 of 1-0 to the Arsenal. We'll be back soon with Part 5, Attacking Flair. I'm your host, Kent Malmuros. Thanks for listening.
From the publisher
Part Four dives into Arsenal’s metamorphosis from league winners to a Cup team. We explore how players and supporters alike were aware, at the time, of this transition and why it set the squad up for European success, even if there was a diminished focus on the league. Through the episode we emphasize choices made by Graham to optimize the team for a different type of football, with an eye towards ultimately delivering European silverware.
“One-Nil to the Arsenal” recounts the 1994 European Cup Winners Cup season and victory in eight parts.
Host: Kent Malmros
Guests: David Hillier, Nigel Winterburn, Amy Lawrence, Tim Stillman, Clive Palmer, Gary Lewin
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