In short
Arsenal’s 1994 European Cup Winners’ Cup final redemption in Copenhagen, beating Parma 1-0, framed as George Graham’s personal and club-wide “redemption” after earlier European disappointment (notably the 1991 Benfica loss and England’s European ban ending).
Guest backgrounds
Alan Smith (former Arsenal striker; later discusses the final and his role without Ian Wright); Tim Stillman (Arsenal podcaster; discusses anxiety lens and match atmosphere); Clive Palmer (Arsenal podcaster; describes traveling to Copenhagen and the fan experience); Gary Lewin (long-time Arsenal physio; injuries and Seaman’s rib protector); Nigel Winterburn (former Arsenal left back; reflects on the achievement); Amy Lawrence (journalist; ticket/travel logistics and Copenhagen trip memories).
Key claims
Graham built a defense-first system (famous back four), made unpopular tactical choices, and trusted execution despite injuries/suspensions. Paul Davis’s return after being frozen out post-Benfica was pivotal, including delivering the free kick in the second leg that led to Tony Adams’ goal. Alan Smith’s 20th-minute left-foot volley was the breakthrough.
Notable examples
Parma’s early chances (Brolin/Astrea, crossbar); Smith’s goal from Dixon throw-in after a Parma clearance miscue; Seaman’s injury and pain-killing; Seaman’s podium/trophy name with “Palmer” on it; Arsenal fans outnumbering Parma fans (~3:1) and the stadium feeling like a home game.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting the Stage for Redemption
2:07 to 2:18
Discussion on the significance of redemption in Arsenal's Cup Winners' Cup run.
“The entire Cup Winner's Cup run was driven by the need for redemption.”
Alan Smith on the Glory Days
2:18 to 4:19
Alan Smith shares his reminiscences of the late 80s and early 90s.
“bringing Arsenal back to the glory he experienced in the Fairs Cup as a player.”
Paul Davis: A Story of Resilience
4:19 to 7:49
Exploring Paul Davis's journey and his critical role in the Cup Winners' Cup.
“Within the squad, there were two stories unfolding that shone a light on players once vital to the team's everyday function that had become background pieces by the 93-94 campaign.”
George Graham's Redemption
7:49 to 9:44
Discussion on George Graham's journey and challenges leading to the final.
“Davis started all nine games against the European foes, and as we shared on multiple occasions, played a key role in decisive scoring actions, taking free kicks and assisting on clutch goals.”
Anxiety and Expectations
9:44 to 13:21
A look into the fans' anxieties and expectations during the Cup Winners' Cup final.
“Arsenal had beaten great teams to earn a trip to Copenhagen, such as Torino and PSG, and that was in a tournament that featured other great teams, such as Real Madrid, Ajax, Benfica, and Bear Leverkusen.”
Traveling to Copenhagen
13:21 to 14:00
Insights into the travel arrangements and ticketing for the final.
“The reality didn't stop fans from their enthusiasm or hope.”
Traveling to Copenhagen for the Final
14:00 to 16:49
Hear about the travel experiences leading up to the match in Copenhagen.
“One of our friends had a mate that lived out there who we crashed with.”
The Atmosphere of the Final
16:50 to 18:59
Experience the pre-match excitement and energy of Arsenal fans in Copenhagen.
“We went on the side because that's what you do.”
The Underdog Mentality
19:00 to 21:04
Discover the mindset of Arsenal players before facing a star-studded Parma team.
“So that seemed to be the story before the game.”
Player Insights and Expectations
21:05 to 23:36
Listen to insights on team dynamics and expectations before the final.
“Graham had instilled a belief within the team.”
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The Challenges Ahead
23:37 to 25:56
Understand the difficulties Arsenal faced with key player absences before the final.
“I think they had less than 50 appearances for Arsenal between them.”
Familiarity with the Venue
25:57 to 28:01
Explore the players' experiences and emotions as they arrived at the stadium.
“But it was a very hard-working midfield.”
Reflecting on the Atmosphere at Parma
28:01 to 29:12
The speakers describe the vibrant atmosphere of the stadium, drawing parallels to Highbury.
“there weren't many Parma fans there, and they were all singing the flags, the banners were all up.”
Setting the Scene for the Final
29:50 to 30:17
Discussion of the pre-match atmosphere and expectations before the final.
“Despite being shorthanded, fans and players alike believed.”
Analyzing Arsenal's Tactical Setup
30:18 to 34:18
An in-depth analysis of Arsenal's tactical approach and player roles during the final.
“A crowd of 33 ,765 packed into Parkin Stadium for the final.”
Fan Reactions and Historical Context
34:19 to 35:11
Exploring fan reactions and the historical significance of Arsenal's performance.
“I know in Fever Pitch, Nick Hornby makes the comparison to the Sex Pistols and Arsenal.”
The Match Highlights: Key Moments
35:12 to 40:49
Detailed recounting of significant events and key plays during the match.
“Vespria made a driving run through the defense in the opening seconds and appeared clear on a goal until Steve Bould made a last-second tackle to turn him away.”
Alan Smith's Redemption Moment
40:50 to 42:00
Focusing on Alan Smith's pivotal goal and its significance for his career.
“The ball ricocheting off a post into the back of the net.”
A Memorable Goal and Its Impact
42:00 to 43:35
Listeners will learn about the personal significance of a key goal in a player's career.
“Yeah, brilliant feeling for me because as I said, it had been an unhappy time.”
The Team's Spirit and Resilience
43:35 to 45:55
Explore how team spirit and resilience contributed to Arsenal's success during a tough match.
“Commentators noted how anything passed to his feet stuck, marking the mastery of his hold-up play, a key to controlling the tempo wherever possible.”
The Significance of the Cup Winners' Cup
45:55 to 48:07
Discover the historical importance of winning the Cup Winners' Cup in 1994 and its impact on Arsenal's legacy.
“But Sensini, I think, was the player who was offside.”
Diversity and Change in Arsenal's Squad
48:07 to 50:29
Learn about the diverse makeup of Arsenal's squad and its role in shaping the club's future.
“I mean, for me, it's big because it's Cup Winners' Cup and, you know, you just have to look quarterfinal on.”
A Strategic Shift in Management
50:29 to 52:58
Examine how George Graham's tactics and decisions set the stage for Arsenal's future success.
“but it was at the time, ahead of its time.”
A Transformative Moment in Arsenal's History
52:58 to 54:09
Understand the pivotal role of the 1994 Cup Winners' Cup victory in transforming Arsenal's trajectory.
“The emphasis on and expectation for winning at Arsenal was largely created through the exploits of George Graham and the famous Back Four.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00George Graham:Mom, can you tell me a story? Sure. Once upon a time, a mom needed a new car. Was she brave?
0:05Alan Smith:She was tired, mostly. But she went to Carvana.com and found a great car at a great price. No secret treasure map required. Did she have to fight a dragon? Nope. She bought it 100 % online.
0:15George Graham:From her bed, actually.
0:16Alan Smith:Was it scary?
0:18George Graham:Honey, it was as unscary as car buying could be.
0:20Alan Smith:Did the car have a sunroof?
0:21George Graham:It did, actually.
0:23Alan Smith:Okay. Good story. Car buying you'll want to tell stories about. Buy your car today on... Carvana! Delivery fees may apply.
0:36George Graham:Arsenal legend Alan Smith
0:40Alan Smith:Well it's it's a moment in our history and a big moment obviously but you know all the teams in England have won the Champions League they've won the European Cup and we haven't so you just want the club to go that extra yard and win the biggest one out there uh but it'll always be special the cup winners cup it will uh against that palm side there was just something i think a lot of fans look back maybe you know with a lot of nostalgia to those times when they felt the fans a little bit closer to the players um there was a bit more a bit more of a bond perhaps obviously players now they're so precious they're kept at arm's length and you know and it's maybe not quite the same feeling but um Yeah, a lot of fans look back to that period, you know, late 80s, early 90s and that as the halcyon days, if you like.
1:37Alan Smith:They really enjoyed it. So it's, yeah, lovely to have been part of that generation.
1:44George Graham:On May 4th, 1994, Arsenal travelled to Copenhagen, undermanned and decidedly as underdogs, to face Parma in the European Cup Winners' Cup final. This is 1-0 to the Arsenal, the story of the 1994 European Cup Winner's Cup victory. I'm your host, Kent Malmros. Part 8, Redemption Story.
2:13George Graham:The entire Cup Winner's Cup run was driven by the need for redemption. As you've heard so many of our guests say, George Graham was fueled to win in Europe, bringing Arsenal back to the glory he experienced in the Fairs Cup as a player. Alan Smith.
2:31Alan Smith:I mean, I've spoken to some of the boys who were involved, like Bob Wilson, obviously involved with the club. Frank McClintock, spoken to him about it. And they said it was the most amazing night at Highbury in that second leg and the noise was deafening and then all the fans invaded the pitch and they were actually in fear of the lives almost. Their fans were ripping shirts and shorts off all the players and they were struggling to get back down the tunnel. So it was an incredible night that. But yeah, it's obviously a long time ago now.
3:11George Graham:When he finally had the chance after England's ban from European competition had expired, his team lost in devastating fashion to Benfica in the fall of 1991. From that point on, Graham was looking to redeem himself, yes, personally, but also on behalf of the club. That's really the undertone of that entire season, that epic run, and so many of the decisions that came before it. He built the famous back four based on a core philosophy of defense over all else, but then won two league titles with a group that he dismantled in some ways to find a different level of success specifically in Europe.
3:56George Graham:An evolved attack built around Ian Wright made them a less potent scoring team, but more prepared to counter off-defensive actions and reliant on just one or two players. Working on the margins, he upgraded to David Seaman when no one believed goalkeeper was a priority. It wasn't just Graham or the club whose redemption drove the Cup Winners' Cup win, however. Within the squad, there were two stories unfolding that shone a light on players once vital to the team's everyday function that had become background pieces by the 93-94 campaign. Paul Davis was one such player. He joined Arsenal as a schoolboy in 1977, became an apprentice in 1978, and made his senior team debut by 1980.
4:45George Graham:Davis quickly became a regular after that debut, solidifying his spot on the right side of the midfield and then later pairing with Stuart Robson to become stalwarts of the team. He was hampered by an injury leading up to Graham's arrival in 1986, yet, at 25 years old, remained a central figure in the gaffer's plans. Now partnered with Steve Williams in the midfield, Davis was excellent in Graham's first year in charge. But then he hit some speed bumps. The injury bug took its toll early in 1988 with hernia surgery, keeping him out until April. Then in September of that year, Davis punched Southampton player Glenn Cockerell, breaking his jaw and earning him a nine-game ban.
5:30George Graham:Combined with another injury that season, Davis played just enough to earn a medal as part of the league-winning squad, though he did miss the classic game in Anfield. Arsenal podcaster Clive Palmer.
6:12Alan Smith:He found himself again. And he was so good in Europe. He played to the rhythm and the pace of what Europe was at the time. And it's all about retaining possession. So he calmed the play down and recycled possession. As we would know, a number six do it today or six stroke eight do it today. He was doing it back then. And we had dogs around him. Dogs would go and get the ball and do the running. But then he would tidy up and keep it moving. So I do remember his influence. And it's a growing influence.
6:45George Graham:A shining moment of, yes, redemption, came during the 1991 season when Davis was back to his best self, helping Graham win a title a second time. But injuries riddled him again in the following season, and the team's performance dipped in direct correlation with his absence. The Benfica game that year that came to haunt Graham was also a source of conflict with Davis. After the loss, the midfielder was fined and then disappeared from Graham's first-team plans, all due to his criticism of the gaffer's tactics. That opened the door for David Hillier, and over the next 16 months, Davis appeared just twice in the first team.
7:29George Graham:Graham also made the veteran player train with the youth team. The longtime Arsenal midfielder asked to leave, but that request was declined. Davis continued dealing with the injury issues along the way, and while it was a contentious and difficult time, when the Cup Winners' Cup came along, his presence mattered and he was called on. Davis started all nine games against the European foes, and as we shared on multiple occasions, played a key role in decisive scoring actions, taking free kicks and assisting on clutch goals.
8:05George Graham:Arsenal podcaster Tim Stillman.
8:08Alan Smith:and then in the second leg it's it's not that much different it's you know if I tell you Arsenal win 1-0 from a set piece it really is don't let them get anything and see if we can get something on a set piece and there's there's actually a nice circular moment in this because it's Paul Davis who delivers the free kick in the second leg for Tony Adams to score and Paul Davis after that Benfica game is basically blamed for the whole thing by George Graham because he's quite a creative midfielder like lovely ball player really kind of modern midfielder but he doesn't play for like 18 months after that Benfica game he gets and this was a guy who'd been playing for us since the mid-70s like brutally I think really unfairly brutally handled by George Graham just left out of the team completely frozen out but he comes back and it's a really nice moment because he's got a wonderful left foot and he just puts a lovely sand wedge free kick in for tony adams and this really sets the tone for how arsenal win the cup winners cup like everything we're going to talk about psg palmer it's all in this this torino tie for at least one competition the paul davis
9:26George Graham:that had risen to prominence in the 80s, was back on full display and immortalizing himself within the hearts of the Arsenal faithful. It's hard to know if Graham and his team would have won the Cup Winners' Cup without Davis, but history tells us he was a vital figure during that shining moment.
9:51George Graham:When the time arrived for Graham to put his starting 11 together for arguably the biggest managerial game of his career, likely in his mind and certainly in the minds of fans, there was yet another redemption story that would be written. That of George Graham himself. Arsenal had beaten great teams to earn a trip to Copenhagen, such as Torino and PSG, and that was in a tournament that featured other great teams, such as Real Madrid, Ajax, Benfica, and Bear Leverkusen. But Parma that year may have been the best of them all. Arsenal podcaster, Tim Stillman. Anxiety is the word for it.
10:35Alan Smith:Yeah, I've always been an anxious person in general. So like anxiety is very much the lens through which I will watch Arsenal. And particularly at this age, it was like completely all consuming. And again, I remember my mum's other half West Ham fan, asking him how does he think the game's going to go. And he just said, I think what everyone said, which was if Arsenal don't concede in the first 20 minutes or if Arsenal go 1-0 up, they'll win. And actually we scored in the 19th minute, I think. So it actually ended up being quite an excellent piece of commentary really. But one of the things I really remember, I remember being told about how good Palmer are.
11:19Alan Smith:they play three forwards Zola Brolin and Asprea they are some of the best defenders in the world like Benariva and these are all names I've heard obviously I haven't seen Palmer but I've heard these names and I think they might have gone to the final the year before um as well they might have been I don't think they were defending champions actually they might lost to Ajax or someone but like they you know they were they were definitely the favorites and actually if you watch the game back in the first 10-15 minutes. Arsenal are incredibly lucky not to concede. Palmer hit the inside of the post, the ball rolls along the line and goes out.
11:59Alan Smith:They're just absolutely peppering us.
12:05George Graham:That meant that even at full strength, the Gunners would have been underdogs. But the team faced injury and suspension crisis, solidifying that position. Fans, players, and coaches alike knew that, in order to bring home silverware, they would need to overcome Ian Wright's suspension and injuries to two starting midfielders, Hillier and John Jensen, as well as often starting defender Martin Keown.
12:33George Graham:Long-time Arsenal physio, Gary Lewin.
12:37Alan Smith:Yeah, I mean, we used to joke that out of a starting XI, six would be playing with injuries. and that would be the case. And again, this is how the game's changed so much. In the modern game, a manager will not pick players unless they've got a decent amount of training in the week up to the game. George's attitude, as long as they can play on the Saturday, I don't care what they do during the week. And so it was, again, a slightly different mentality. And again, players had a different attitude towards it. But I think if you talk to some of the current squad and some of the operations they've had now as older people, Alan Smith being one of them and Lee Dixon and Tony Adams, that they gave a lot to the cause and they often play through injury.
13:25Alan Smith:But that was part of the sport.
13:31George Graham:The reality didn't stop fans from their enthusiasm or hope. Amy Lawrence
13:39Alan Smith:well first of all there was first of all there was tickets but it wasn't like today I think we had to go to the stadium in person in queue to buy our tickets and sort of maybe have some sort of cutting out little vouchers and things like that to prove that you've been to other matches during the season and if you had enough vouchers that you could get your your tickets but we the myself and the people that i went with at the time went everywhere so it wasn't difficult for us to get tickets the bigger issue was the travel and here's a little insight into how much things have changed uh there was no price gouging or internet you know how quickly can you find your tickets to uh wherever um on websites uh if you wanted to travel in that period of time if you stayed somewhere on a saturday night your ticket cost about five times less than if you didn't stay a saturday night i don't know why this rule existed but it was a reality um so we decided to go out on the saturday before the final and spend a few days in Copenhagen.
15:04Alan Smith:One of our friends had a mate that lived out there who we crashed with. We were pretty young in those days. And Arsenal played, I think, West Ham on the Saturday before Copenhagen in a league game. And we, our little group of friends, had packed our bags and left them at a flat of a friend who lived in Drayton Park, which is just around the corner from Highbury, went to the first half of the Arsenal-West Ham game, at which point we had to leave, left the North Bank, went round and picked up our bags, got on the tube at Arsenal, went to the airport and went straight to Copenhagen and had an absolute fine time building up to the match.
15:48Alan Smith:And as the days went by, oh, it's a wonderful place. More and more fans were arriving into town and it was proper party atmosphere stuff. And the Arsenal fans outnumber the Parma fans by around about three to one. And because the Park and Stadium was a kind of rectangle, almost in the sort of shape of hybrid and it had red seats, it really felt like a home game for Arsenal. I think that was something really significant. The players commented on that. And the other thing that I recall is David Seaman revealing afterwards that when they got there, the players, they walked into the stadium and walked past the podium that they would take out onto the pitch when it was time to award the trophy and it had Palmer's name on it.
16:41Alan Smith:and uh yeah and um i think that gave them that little extra injection of determination when uh when they got in the dressing room and started to prepare for the game
16:57Alan Smith:clive palmer yeah so we flew in uh we stayed i don't know where we stayed there's a hotel out of town and then we got a taxi into town he says guys you're going in a bit early i think like one o 'clock in the afternoon and we we had our drinks and we said right just take us to where everybody is and there was a bit there was a big square in Copenhagen he dropped us near the square and yeah it's a big square I always remember the Burger King on the side street and we went down that side street and we stood there and that side street became the place and the square to be and it just started from there it was just joyous singing we just stood there we were drinking and eating and all the Danish people coming past they were so nice I thought this is a place I can live I mean it was just it was just wonderful so hospitable and and what was you know what was key was he went to the ground and I think for some reason we had a set of tickets but someone gave us another set of tickets I don't know why he just gave us their tickets there's three of us and so we went into the ground and we went into what we call on the side so the side opposite is where the players came out of the tunnel.
18:06Alan Smith:We went on the side because that's what you do. You go to the side bit because that's where the better seats were. And so as we got there, we looked behind the goal that we defended in the first half and the Arsenal fans were there very early and it was packed. I thought, I can't stay here. This is where all the corporate people are. We've got to go behind that goal. And where our original tickets were. So we came out of the ground, walked back behind the goal and went into that end. And I have many sayings on the podcast, as you probably know, Kent. I sometimes say a word, sometimes games are won and lost before kickoff.
18:38Alan Smith:The moment I walked into that ground, behind that goal, I don't care if they had Pele, Maradona in their team, there was no way we were losing that game. Because we had three sides of the ground, it was like the whole of London just seemed to just transmit itself to that stadium. And it was just amazing. And I can remember Ian Wright coming out before the game, everyone was singing his name and there's just no there was not an ounce of lack of confidence i can't explain it to you and um and if you think about the next year we had to play real zaragossa in paris and i can remember walking to the ground and thinking it's going to be exactly the same and it wasn't and basically they had half the crowd we had half the crowd and i was immediately tense and we end up losing that game you know so um i was immediately tense but this game in copenhagen it just felt like it was our time they were the champions they had all the stars it suited our underdog mentality it suited our dogginess it suited our britishness you know and and we were very much that type of team and um and even though we had a couple of major players that weren't there two or three including david hillier didn't quite make it for thank you yeah then Clint De...
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19:57Alan Smith:It was Keown, that was his... John Jensen, yeah. In his home country. So that seemed to be the story before the game. And that was the story. It was definitely that. And so, but in some ways, that bled into who we were. We were the unfashionable team from London. Palmer were full of World Cup superstars. I mean, Zola, Spriller and Brolin. I mean, that alone was just incredible, watching those three play football. And that is a memory I have, looking down when Thomas Brolin hit the post. I was looking down, thinking that's a goal. He didn't go in, and you think, this is our day. You know, this is our day.
20:40Alan Smith:But to watch Thomas Brolin in the first phase of that game was just incredible. You know, what a player he was. And so you just feel it's your day. And you can't explain it. You can't, it doesn't add up. We didn't have the best team. We weren't in the best shape. but they could not tell me we weren't going to win that game or anybody around me. It was just a really incredible moment.
21:05George Graham:It didn't stop the players either. Graham had instilled a belief within the team. They were told and they believed it. So it didn't matter who was in front of them. They had a chance. Amy Lawrence.
21:20Alan Smith:Yeah, I mean... I'm just going to start by reading something that was in the Guardian at the time. And it said, it's hard to believe Arsenal will be playing on the same planet, let alone in the same competition as Parma. You know, that tells you a lot about expectations. yeah palmer were a classical italian team of that vintage where they were steeped in the traditions of you know technical um smart defensively sound instincts but they also had flashes of absolute brilliance so the front line of Zola, Aspria and Brolin, who were three world-class forwards. It was a bit frightening. And I think Arsenal went into that feeling every inch the underdog, exacerbated by the fact that they're without a key player in midfield, in John Jensen, who's injured.
22:35Alan Smith:And, you know, the main man up front, Iliad Wright, who was suspended. so you knew that this was going to have to be something that was about a collective this was about everybody looking deep into their soul and providing every ounce of what i had inside them for the team um george created a plan it it required a few moments of fortune because there were a couple of moments where palmer maybe must think how the hell did we not score a few years ago I watched some of it back and actually was shocked at how much worse it was again than it was in my memory and really like how miraculous it was yeah it was it was a miraculous set of circumstances and performance to match and you know when you look at that especially the midfield of Davis had come back in from the cold he'd been sort of quite isolated for a while and Morrow and Selly were very young.
23:41Alan Smith:I think they had less than 50 appearances for Arsenal between them. So really not the kind of experience that you'd be hoping to have in a game of that stature. So it was a huge ask for them. They were told to do a specific job and that's what they did.
24:00George Graham:Even with the fans showing up in force, even with the belief Graham instilled in them and that they had in themselves, there was so much to overcome. Parma had purchased Gianfranco Zola from Napoli that season, the second leading scorer in Serie A. Zola joined Tomas Brolin and Faustina Espria to create an attack that simply dominated most teams. But that dominance gave them an arrogance that Arsenal players could see.
24:31George Graham:Alan Smith.
24:32Alan Smith:Well, I mean, obviously, first of all, excitement that we're in a European final Arsenal up to that point hadn't had many at all so we were almost treading new ground but Palmer were the holders and we obviously did video sessions having a look at them George liked to do that and quite often as a player you'd kind of zone out after 20 minutes or so and I'm sure the players do now as well attention span of footballers is notoriously short. But yeah, we look at their strengths and maybe weaknesses as well. But we all knew that they'd got Zola and Asbrillio, Thomas Brolin, who was in peak form of his career.
25:18Alan Smith:And you always felt playing Italian teams was not going to be easy because they had this reputation for being very strong defensively, don't give much away. So we thought it's going to be tight It's going to be tight. And of course, when he gets to the day and you travel over and we knew Wrighty was suspended, we knew John Jenson wasn't going to play. He was a regular in midfield. He'd done his crew shots. And then Martin Keown fails late fitness test. David Hillier did as well. So it was a makeshift midfield, to say the least, really, with Stevie Morrow and Ian Selle joining Paul Davis. But it was a very hard-working midfield.
26:03Alan Smith:But, yeah, I remember training on the pitch the night before and we had the pitch first. You're giving about half an hour, you know, the night before. And as we came off after our little session, the Palmer players were waiting to go on and glance across at you. And, yeah, we just thought, oh, they don't think much of us, you know. A bit of a sneer. Who's this lot? and they were always immaculate, you know, the Italian sides in the tracksuits and that. But we also saw, I remember the podium, you know, which when you lift the trophy, you end up standing on and it had Parma winners on it and we went, what the hell's going on here?
26:49Alan Smith:They think Parma have won already, but we didn't realise that Arsenal was written on the other side of it. So they'd turn it around according to who'd won. So that got our go-to bit. But, yeah, I remember, first of all, when we got to Copenhagen, we stopped in this hotel and we thought, wow, this isn't very nice, is it? It's a European final, not much of a hotel at all. We had the hump about that. But it was outside the city and I think, you know, George wanted that because, you know, the fans and everything, trying to keep you awake at night and it was fine in the end. It was quiet and we got some rest.
27:30Alan Smith:but we thought, oh God, the club hasn't even bothered to pay out for a decent hotel. You know, typical footballer's reaction as well, you know. But yeah, it was an amazing night. I remember going out for the warm-up and we all thought, oh my God, we've gone out and it felt like a home game because not three quarters of the ground, but you'd say four-fifths felt like it was Arsenal fans, there weren't many Parma fans there, and they were all singing the flags, the banners were all up. And we came back in after the warm-up and went, wow, this is amazing, you know, it does feel like a home game. And the Park and Stadium, it was kind of configured a bit like Highbury, so it really felt like home.
28:19Alan Smith:So just after the warm-up, which is quite unusual, it gave you a lift, you know, that it felt like a home game.
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29:34Alan Smith:Was it scary?
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29:46Alan Smith:Carvana!
29:47George Graham:Delivery fees may apply. The scene was set. The plan was made. Despite being shorthanded, fans and players alike believed. Whether George Graham truly did or not, we may never know. But it was clear to everyone around him that he wanted to win. And when the whistle blew, he had done everything, both long-term revamp of the roster and short-term attention to tactical detail, to accomplish his ultimate European goal. All that was left was execution.
30:23George Graham:A crowd of 33 ,765 packed into Parkin Stadium for the final. It was a relatively new venue at the time, having opened in 1992, and it was the first time it hosted a major European competition final. It was also the first time any European competition's final had been held in Denmark. What the massive crowd saw was a tactical match, a masterpiece by some accounts. That Parma attack was on display early, with outrighty to generate the counterattacking threat, and with Jensen and Hillier injured, Arsenal's starting midfielders was Ian Selle, Steve Morrow, and Davis. The attacking outlet wasn't unfamiliar, it just wasn't the first choice.
31:08George Graham:Alan Smith was given a lone role up front, with Paul Merson and Kevin Campbell lined up as wide midfielders.
31:18George Graham:Alan Smith.
31:21Alan Smith:I think for me it was kind of okay I can roll back the years here to the times when I was up front and scoring goals you know we haven't got Ian Wright to depend on there's more onus on me to maybe nick a goal to lead the line and I remember going into it maybe because of that I don't know I just felt fairly confident and my general play was good. You know, you always want to get your first few touches right when the ball's played up to you and my first touch was nice and I was holding it up and so that gives you a bit of confidence.
32:07George Graham:Fortunately, the famous back five of Seaman, Dixon, Adams, Bold and Winterburn took its standard spot on the team sheet. The game model then was to play a disciplined 4-5-1 staying compact and opportunistic.
32:24George Graham:Arsenal podcaster, Tim Stillman. What I do, being incredibly anxious,
32:31Alan Smith:obviously Arsenal are kind of banking up. They're 4-3-3, very much goes into a 4-5-1. Ian Selle is amazing in midfield at 19 years old. Really only came to appreciate his performance when I watched the game back without the anxiety. but one thing I do remember as well is you could just see as the game went on, Palmer were losing hope. They were like, oh God, we're not going to break these guys down. And you can see that in these games sometimes where the team you expect to win, the team that's attacking, you kind of get a sixth sense, but whether they have belief or not. And I think you can see Palmer start to lose belief.
33:11Alan Smith:and actually some of the injuries and the suspension to Ian Wright, I think it just copper plates the way Arsenal have to play in this game. I think they'd have done it anyway, but it's like we're massive underdogs now. We have to bunker in. We have to play this way. And I think there was a total commitment to it. And in the end, the result's kind of a fair one, really. Like I said, Palmer could easily have scored in the opening minutes, But particularly if you go second half, Palmer don't create a great deal. They have that goal disallowed. But yeah, for me, the feeling of anxiety and then relief when it happens is just incredible.
33:55Alan Smith:And this again is in a context where Man United are kind of beginning to feel their way in the Champions League and trying to navigate their way through it. And those are really the only games we see on TV. so no one really talks about Arsenal and the Cup Winners' Cup. So it's a very Arsenal triumph. We do it in a way that is not pleasing to the neutral when nobody's really been talking about us, when nobody... This is who Arsenal were in 1994. I know in Fever Pitch, Nick Hornby makes the comparison to the Sex Pistols and Arsenal. He felt like Arsenal were like the Sex Pistols. It's like, you know, if you weren't like a part of the tribe, you probably hated them.
34:42Alan Smith:And this, yeah, yeah, yeah, this felt, yeah, exactly. This felt a bit Johnny Rotten, if I can use that as a verb. And I just remember going into school and just all the Arsenal fans just being incredibly unbearably smug, which is exactly how you should react to something like this as a fan.
35:11George Graham:Parma was on the front foot almost immediately. Vespria made a driving run through the defense in the opening seconds and appeared clear on a goal until Steve Bould made a last-second tackle to turn him away.
35:31Alan Smith:Here's Brolin, who's so hard to track, turning it through for Astrea. Wonderful tackle by Bold. And the danger averted by Dixon.
35:44George Graham:Brolin had a header that went just over the reach of a committed David Seaman, and then the crossbar.
35:53George Graham:Trepa.
35:57Alan Smith:Benaribo, who's a right back with a really buccaneering style. Pull in! Well, when he glanced it off, he cleared for Arsenal.
36:12Alan Smith:Any sort of touch with Seaman committed, but it was too hard.
36:18George Graham:Arsenal had its own chance. A Paul Merson corner was headed wide by Kevin Campbell.
36:38George Graham:Then Brolin on a counter just seconds after that corner hit the upright post in the 14th minute.
36:47Alan Smith:Smith, everything up to Alan Smith is sticking. It's a good sign. Davis, Campbell, Parma were appealing for offside, he's in there as well. Suddenly Arsenal putting men forward from midfield, Davis. But the worry when they do that is the clout in the Parma counter-attack, started by Esprija. Here's Zola, on for Brolin, homing in here, the inside of the post, and Fortune favours the Gunners. A sweeping counterattack. And Thomas Brolin, a whisker away from putting Palmer into the lead for Nebio Scala.
37:34George Graham:The strike from distance by Brolin nearly put the Italian side on top early in the contest. So still the game stood tied at 0-0 until the 20th minute, when the last major redemption story of that season was written. There's no question that Alan Smith was one of the most adversely impacted of Graham's squad evolution, targeted towards European glory. Smith was the man to lead the line at Arsenal through Graham's initial glory days. He was the gaffer's first big sign and coming from Leicester City in 1987. He subsequently became Arsenal's top scorer for four consecutive seasons, including two golden boots that not so coincidentally coincided with the team's two title-winning campaigns in 1989 and 1991.
38:23George Graham:Of course, despite the volume of goals, the most famous singular moment was the first strike in Arsenal's 2-0 victory at Anfield on May 26th, 1989, that brought them the title that season. And yet, with one stroke of a pen, he became more or less overshadowed by Ian Wright. What teammates will tell you is that Smith's role changed, but his importance to the team remained the same, and also that his ability to adjust, to transform really, was a testament to his quality. His technical and tactical acumen allowed Smith to become a facilitator over the next few years, often adding link-up play needed to spring on the counter or recycle possession for service into the box.
39:08George Graham:With right out for the final against Parma, Smith was thrust into his old role of leading the line. He was the one intended to partner with Kevin Campbell or produce his own moment of magic, which is exactly what happened. Arsenal podcaster Tim Stillman.
39:26Alan Smith:But by a lot of luck, Arsenal do hang on. And actually, and then they scored the goal. And it's Alan Smith with a left foot volley outside of the area. I mean, again, I said he was good at everything, but actually a left foot volley from 20 odd yards out is not the sort of goal you associated Alan Smith with. And it was a lovely moment for him as well, because I think in terms of how people viewed him, he'd gone into the background a bit with Ian Wright. So for him to have that moment again where he's the main man, I think was really fitting and really the last moment of his Arsenal career. I think he gets an injury the next season and has to retire.
40:07Alan Smith:I always consider that like this is really the last moment of his Arsenal career.
40:14George Graham:In that 20th minute, Arsenal found its breakthrough, thanks in part to a miscue by Parma and brilliance by Smith. It began with a Lee Dixon throw-in collected by Smith, a familiar sight. His return to Dixon elicited an ambitious pass to streaking Paul Merson. Sensing the danger, Lorenzo Minotis attempted an audacious stretching clearance that was misdirected. Smith had been working off the ball into space after his layoff to Dixon, saw the miss hit, and collected the clearance down off his chest, then struck it, what can only be described as perfectly with his left foot from 20 yards away, to beat goalkeeper Luca Bucci.
40:55George Graham:The ball ricocheting off a post into the back of the net. 1-0 Arsenal. Dixon. Dixon again.
41:08Alan Smith:That's Minotti with the acrobatics. It falls for Smith. Oh! A superb goal for Alan Smith.
41:20Alan Smith:Just what Arsenal wanted. And Smith, who's laboured for so long, really, in the past couple of years in the shadows of Ian Wright when it comes to goal scoring. No Wright tonight. Smith ceases the opportunity. And that's football for you. Brolin hits the inside of the post. It stays out. Smith does. It goes in and Arsenal are in front. Alan Smith. And then, yeah, I took the chance, which, yeah, kind of came out of nothing really and I didn't realise it had hit the back of the net until the keeper, Luke Cabucci, had kind of landed on the floor and I'd seen it had hit the inside of the post and he had finished on the other side of the goal.
42:15Alan Smith:Yeah, brilliant feeling for me because as I said, it had been an unhappy time. I wasn't happy in my work at all and so that was a bit of a port in a storm. And to do it on the big stage, any professional will want to be able to produce his best when it matters on the big stage. And so I was pleased, satisfied that I was able to do that. And I'd done it at Anfield in 89 and some other games. So it's a professional satisfaction that you can do it when your team needs you most. So to look back on that, yeah, it's nice to be able to say that. Quite naturally, people all mention the Cop Winners' Cob because it was the most recent and also 89, for those old enough to remember.
43:07Alan Smith:But, you know, those diehard fans, they'll pick out certain games as well. You know, some game in darkest December, whatever. Oh, yeah, I remember you, Nick, won at the end, whatever. That was important. But, yeah, I suppose it's only natural that they remember those big occasions when you, runner, came to the fore.
43:29George Graham:The redemption story wasn't complete, but it was mostly written at that point. Smith's play throughout the game stood above the rest. Commentators noted how anything passed to his feet stuck, marking the mastery of his hold-up play, a key to controlling the tempo wherever possible. Combined with the exploits of a young Ian Selle, seldom used Steve Morrow, and the famous back four in particular, Bold, the team felt confident it could hold on to the one-goal lead.
44:08Alan Smith:Technically, Parma have a real pedigree. So can they battle? They need to here against one of the most resilient club sides you'll find anywhere in the world. Aspira. Zola. Lovely play from Parma. And, well, David Seaman, we know is injured, but you'd never guess it from the agility. He had to show that.
44:38Alan Smith:A move again of sheer class from Farmer and a sensational save.
44:47George Graham:Long-time Arsenal physio, Gary Lewin.
44:52Alan Smith:Well, David's a funny one because I actually went to Newmarket to get a rib protector from the jockeys. And we got one specifically made. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got a specifically made for him to protect those ribs. And there was at times when he was having some pain-killing injections to get through games. Yeah, at different points of the season, you picked up different injuries. But that also then comes back to the spirit within the squad. You'd lost someone like David Seaman, but everyone would give that extra 1 % to make up for the loss of such a great player. and I think all teams over the years, you look at all the successful teams over the years, have that element of pulling together when times get tough.
45:38George Graham:They were able to control Zola and Espria. They defended their lead to the last second and in doing so became the fourth London club to win the Cup Winners' Cup trophy.
45:55Alan Smith:Again Arsenal funnel back. The defensive line has been so solid. There's an offside given. The ball's in the net. It's not going to count.
46:13Alan Smith:It was a very close call indeed. But Sensini, I think, was the player who was offside.
46:23George Graham:Arsenal have won it! A tactical triumph here for George Graham.
46:35Alan Smith:Well, please, just a great night for everybody concerned with Arsenal. In front of wonderful supporters who certainly played their part, Tony Adams leads off Arsenal to collect the European Cup Winners' Cup. Well played, Arsenal.
47:17George Graham:Winning a European trophy on its own merits is definitely the story here. As we've broken down throughout the series, European competitions were different at the time. The transition of importance to the Champions League overlapping with the Cup Winners' Cup and then the subsequent expansion of the field has likely tarnished the shine of that win in our memories. The fact remains that fewer teams had a chance to compete in Europe then. That meant it was only the best of the best, even in what was considered the second-tier competition. In some years, like 93-94, the field was arguably even better than the top European competition.
47:57George Graham:That alone makes the win worthy of a spotlight, even three decades later.
48:06George Graham:Legendary Arsenal left back, Nigel Winterburn.
48:10Alan Smith:I mean, for me, it's big because it's Cup Winners' Cup and, you know, you just have to look quarterfinal on. And people now would probably, well, PSG are huge now. But back then, Torino, PSG and Parma were big teams. So it was a big achievement from the team that I played in. But, well, I mean, to me, obviously, 89 is still, for me, the greatest because the drama, my first league trifle. But I would say that this sits pretty high. I always obviously talk about with Wenger the 98 because it's a domestic double league and FA Cup. But I think this one's got to sit way up there because of the teams that we played from quarterfinal onwards, if I'm completely honest with you.
49:07Alan Smith:And we go into this game at such huge underdogs simply because of the injuries that we, you know, yeah. So, yeah, you know, listen, it doesn't matter if you've got a famous back four or not. If you put their team together and list it and put ours together, I don't think too many people are thinking that we're going to win. So it just shows you what team spirit, organization, obviously scoring at the right time can actually do for you.
49:49George Graham:That George Graham transformed his approach to team building and tactics in an effort to define his legacy with the European win is notable as well. He made challenging and unpopular decisions, knowing a certain style of play was needed, not just to avoid the repeat of the Benfica outcome in 91, but also to run the gauntlet of teams they'd see in any European Cup. There are other clear reasons, though. We as Arsenal fans should appreciate the significance of that win. Arsenal had a roster at the time that, despite its deep English roots, reflected a racially diverse community, and a global one.
50:28George Graham:It wasn't as heterogeneous as any Premier League roster now, but it was at the time, ahead of its time. That likely planted the seed that a manager like Arsene Wenger, after Graham's unexpected and unceremonious departure, was the right person for the job. His global mindset fit something the club had seen work, something embraced by fans, during that 94 Cup Winners' Cup run. Clive Palmer.
50:57Alan Smith:When we hired, obviously George time came to an abrupt end. We tried to do something in-house with Stuart Houston, etc., which was just very briefly. And then we go to Bruce Rillard, the brightest manager around in the league. But he was very much local versus global. He was local, you know, very much local. And there was a rumor that there were players offered to him. They didn't know their names. I mean, players like Roberto Carlos, for example. And I think David Dean said to himself, this isn't right. So he'd already had words with the board about Arsene Wenger. So now it's like, okay, the world is changing.
51:37Alan Smith:And we need to recognize this. The game is changing. And we have somebody here that maybe is made of the right stuff. And he walks into the English game and says, okay, we're a bit behind here. We need to step this up a little bit. And so he had a green field from which to work from and knowledge of the markets that he needed to understand to bring players in at good prices. And in the middle of London, which is two hours from Paris, I mean, crikey, I mean, how good is that, right? So in hindsight, understanding the globality of football and how it was about to happen, the changes in technology around the late 90s into the year 2000, I think set Arsenal up for the next phase of its history.
52:27Alan Smith:And I think the launch point for me was the mid-90s to see our potential. And then when we started to play at Wembley for games later in that decade for the European games, I think the club saw its potential even further to think about moving grounds. So Europe played a part in understanding who we were and understanding our reach and size and potential for growth. So yeah, local versus global.
53:03George Graham:May 4th, 1994 in Copenhagen was a sliding doors moment for Arsenal, not just because it brought the club's silverware, but because it arguably changed the direction of the club in a way that triggered its most historic period of all time. The emphasis on and expectation for winning at Arsenal was largely created through the exploits of George Graham and the famous Back Four. The 1994 Cup Winners' Cup victory was engineered by a visionary manager. It was delivered by a stout and famed defense that defined the era, and a group of players that combined talent with discipline layered in belief. Arsenal fans often talk about the club's history as being devoid of European glory.
53:53George Graham:In mass, that may be true, but in reality, the 94 Cup Winners' Cup stands up as a triumph worth remembering and a moment that we can likely thank for opening the doors to global adoration and a modern era that inarguably changed the face of English football. All thanks to 1-0 to the Arsenal.
54:22George Graham:That's all for 1-0 to the Arsenal. I'm your host, Kent Malmros. Thanks for taking a trip down memory lane with us. We'll see you soon.
54:45George Graham:Hello for you! Hello for you! Hello for you!
54:50Alan Smith:Hello for you! Hello for you! Hello for you! Hello for you! Hello for you! Hello for you!
55:03Alan Smith:It's been a great few years and hopefully I can have a load more. We know you've been great. Thank you very much.
55:17Alan Smith:I love this song, you brilliant fans, you brilliant captain eigen, thank you very much. Cheers!
55:39City Oslo! One ne-o!
55:45City Oslo! One新! City Oslo! One ne-o! City Oslo! City Oslo! The tour! City oslo! It's another way.
56:00Alan Smith:See you next season!
From the publisher
Part Eight, the final installment of the series, walks through the final against Parma in Copenhagen. Guests recount their memories of making the trip with the team as well as their concerns about how an undermanned squad would deal with one of Europe’s fiercest attacks. The episode also breaks down how that game was one of redemption for key figures in the squad, as well as George Graham himself. Highlighted by the memories of Alan Smith, who scored the game’s deciding goal, this series finale contains contributions from players and fnas alike.
“One-Nil to the Arsenal” recounts the 1994 European Cup Winners Cup season and victory in eight parts.
Host: Kent Malmros
Guests: Alan Smith, David Hillier, Nigel Winterburn, Amy Lawrence, Tim Stillman, Clive Palmer, Gary Lewin
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