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1:48It's Rice. What a goal! Declan Rice with an absolute rocket with a free kick. Arsenal lead 1-0. Cut inside. Saka! Sublime finish. He's back with a bang with Bukayo Saka. 1-0. Unbelievable.

2:10Let's just hope that Chelsea can match their record for losing on the pitch on Sunday as much as they did with their financial statements this week. This is the Arsenal Vision Post-Match Podcast. My name's Eli Smith. You brought me on Twitter, Yankee Gunner. Finance humor. Never fails. Always good. Giant Gooner, I know you're out there laughing. Chelsea setting records for the hundreds of millions of pounds they've lost under financial whiz kid Todd Boley. Arsenal released their financial statements. and a rosier picture, it is fair to say. We may touch on that today because Tim and I are both certified financial morons.

2:42I don't know, but we may touch on it nonetheless. Clive and I did the first rewatch in ages and what a rewatch to do. We rewatched the Tottenham demolition. The North London Derby was rewatched over on Patreon. And the way we do that, we put the game on the screen. We put our faces in a tiny little corner because our faces aren't the headline of that, thankfully. And we watch and we rewatch and Clive analyzes and I say things like, ooh, good shot. It's really good banter and great analysis. So you can join us over there, Saliba50 is the code, and you get everything for a few quid, see what you think.

3:10Oh, Will Balsam came on, we did our monthly now, monthly Academy pod on, what was that, Tuesday, I guess? I don't know, because I'm in London for the Chelsea game, and I am massively jet-lagged, which means my performance will be indistinguishable from usual. So we'd love to have you over there, we're thrilled to have you over here. Today we will talk Darby's, the one coming up, and the one that just happened, maybe a bit on Eza and Jokras and how they kick on from their performance. a bit on the Champions League as well, which threw up some actually interesting playoff games, and a quick little bit on the finances.

3:40But all of that will be covered with this man, Tim. Hello, Tim Stillman. How are you? Hello. All good, thank you. Yeah, it's been a nice week, hasn't it? You know, it's weird. It's like, I sat here and I'm like, what the heck are we going to talk about? There's been no midweek game. It's been so long since we've done a podcast where there's no midweek game to talk about. I think it's great because it gives us room to explore Arsenal topics that we wouldn't otherwise have the chance to, but I'm sure the players and the manager alike are feeling a nice respite from a run-in that is going to be relentless.

4:11Yeah, absolutely. I worked out, this is my first midweek free of football since September the 9th and 10th, because I mean, the men have probably had like a couple of free midweeks since then, mainly international breaks, which aren't really breaks for them, but like on the women's side as well the way the calendars work they tend to like correlate with one another and so like i this is my first this has been my first free midweek in nearly six months and then you look ahead and it's going to be the last one until until june basically so it it does feel really relentless particularly and this isn't a complaint whatsoever particularly when you're in the content game as well and you're like making content about it i as people know i listen to all of the content i even listened to a tottenham podcast this week um well whitewood fun really good fun really recommend it a little bit of a hate listen um but yeah yeah it's it's but it's this is if there's one win or one game this season ellia i wanted to resonate and to hang in the air a little bit i think it's this one.

5:21This is the one you want a free midweek after. It hadn't been the best six weeks or so for Arsenal, but following Wolves, what is the best thing that could have happened? Totally cleanse the palate with a demolition of Tottenham away a few days later, then a week to ruminate on that instead of the Wolves game heading into the Chelsea game. And we know they're going to be physical and we know they're going to be overly physical and overly emotional because that's who they are from an identity standpoint. And so having a week to really tactically prepare for them. First of all, I mean, I don't think we realize how little tactical preparation time we get to train the muscle to maybe help these players who have been picking up things like injuries and warmups and stuff to just get back to a more traditional training regimen.

6:02I think it's fantastic. You and I haven't had the chance to speak about the Derby, the one from last weekend, not the one this weekend. So I want to at least start with that. I mean, you've been to maybe hundreds of them at this point, and there's not a lot of times you go away and beat your hated rival 4-1. I just enjoyed the heck out of it. And I know there were moments where it could have been closer, it could have been nervier, but really it was total domination and huge games for Eze and Jokras, who I think we'll spend a lot of time talking about today in terms of how they kick on this Sunday.

6:32Surely, surely the manager will want to pick them again. So just high level, how you experienced the Derby and any takeaways from it? Yeah. So I didn't go to this one. I'd been covering the women's game earlier in the day and I wouldn't have been able to make it across in time, particularly with laptops and stuff like that. So I watched it in a pub in Boreham Wood. And look, we all knew what was on the line here. We all know what would have been said had we not won and none of us would have had any hiding place from it if we'd lost this game or even drawn it. We know what everyone would have been saying and we wouldn't have been able to deny it.

7:07I think it's felt like, I think, the first proper knife-edge game of the season. Because we've been top for a long time and we've had a bit of a cushion. And that's eroded a little bit. And obviously with everything that comes with this game, this really felt like the first time where it's like, if we don't win this, not only does that put winning the league in doubt, it means it's probably not going to happen from here yeah you know like really can and it still might not but you know what i mean like i would have been properly confronting okay i think we're looking at a collapse here and i think we're looking at like maybe even just tailing off like that's that's all the stuff we would have been talking about so i was mega nervous for this one even more nervous than i usually am for a for a north london derby but the the thing you know especially in the minutes building up to kick off i start saying stuff to myself like i wish i could just knock myself out and wake up like and just know the result glad that didn't happen now and so you know you try and do those you try and have those thoughts to comfort yourself in that like what you know you try and get rational brain on like okay okay what's the calming voice in my head and the calming voice in my head was we are so much better than them play at 80 % of your capability and you will win right like this was a classic Tottenham can't beat us we can beat us just like Wolves and so I was a bit like surely we're not going to do that twice in three days and I think one of the things Elliot that's interesting about this season and you know forgive me for people who've listened to the ask cast today because I said this on there this season's been defined by a response to setbacks and defeats we've gone on good runs and had good results after setbacks and defeats this needs to be a spring this needs to be response to big endorphin rush result and we got another opportunity on sunday to get it's not quite the same as winning spurs away but beating chelsea makes everyone happy as well and we've got an opportunity here yeah a couple things if we're sitting fifth four one away at spurs would be all we talk about for the next two months it is a huge thing to do it hasn't happened much like that in the history of this i'm going to call it a rivalry even though it isn't much of one it's quite one-sided but even as one-sided as it is it hasn't happened like that much because there is a title race on i don't think we'll have the opportunity to enjoy it as much as we might like But if we go on to win the title and then we can look back at along the way, 8-2 on aggregate over Tottenham, I think that's going to be part of the story of this title run, a big part of it.

9:56You know, it might be on the cover of the book. So I think it's a huge moment. I think also managers like moments and seasons they can point to when the going gets tough. And a couple of things here. We got pegged back. We shouldn't have. It was stupid. But he can point to this moment and say, but what did we do? We attacked. We attacked with purpose and verb and urgency. And what did we do? We didn't win 2-1 and hold on, we won 4-1. Keep that in your mind that as long as we continue to play our game at our tempo with our insistence, then we are an unstoppable force. And I think the team getting the chance to really experience that is probably a really good thing, especially considering some of the way other games in recent weeks have gone.

10:37So it's a great lesson there. It's a teachable moment, isn't it? It's a teachable moment. and and and i also think with that and again uh tap the mug written about this today for the column um but every title winning season it has those victories that mean more than the three points it like every title winning season it has that do you remember when we did that and after that we went like go back to 98 we won at old trappard we won the next eight games after that and won the title like an unbeaten season you look at like we won some big games but then you know that good friday liverpool at home is it all going to come crashing down no it's not and we went and we went and did the business like and and we haven't had loads of those this season because we didn't beat liverpool we haven't beat man city yet and like you know we lost at home to man united we beat man united away but that's the first game of the season that doesn't give you the same newcastle away is the only real i think that's the other one i had in mind yeah 100 because yeah yeah it came after the draw against city and it was the start of that long run of wins and clean sheets what was it like eight in the league or something like that so and along the way included like the the win over atletico madrid and things like that so yeah that that that's what newcastle has to do now yep yeah yeah yeah i think that's that's spot on tim Quickly, before we shift gears to looking ahead to Chelsea, obviously there are two things that you'd take away from this game.

12:06Well, there are several things you might take away from this game, but one of them is, as is performance, and if we could just convince the opposition to wear white all the time, maybe he'd just continue to score goals at that clip. Maybe that's the next step of the No More Red campaign. All our opponents wear white now, yeah. There you go. See, as a charitable mind, he's just thinking of supporting that campaign. But I think the Yolkratz performance is really important. And re-watching it, I think even more important than the goals. Well, no, I don't want to be hipster. The goals are the most important thing.

12:40But there's a lot of good in that performance. But it's also one of the rare times the manager kept him on the whole game. And I do think he can grow into games. And the things that he does well, I think he can continue to do well late in the games against tired defenders. and that's something that I'd be curious to see if Mikel tries to rely on more, to give him a chance to play his way into games. And I want to be clear, it is not like he's played well enough to earn it at every point this season. You know, when you've had six touches and no shots and you're not controlling the ball well and it's 60 minutes into the game and your team needs a goal, I can understand if the manager's got an itchy trigger finger.

13:22But do you think the performance he put up against Spurs and especially how he grew into the game, the way he played the last 20 minutes, might be a building block for Mikel to also trust him to go deeper into games, even if he's not having the involvement early on? Yeah, definitely. I know Clive referenced on the pod on Monday when he was talking about Jokeres, you know, and doing his victory lap because he hasn't slagged him off like I have. To which, fair enough. But he was talking about... Shut it down your throat, Tim, and I'm sure it tasted great. Yeah, absolutely. but he was talking about you know Jokeres that chance he had for Sporting Lisbon against Arsenal last season where he hit the bar and he like bludgeoned his way past Saliba and Gabriel I think that was in the last minute I might have misremembered that it was definitely late in the game it's very late in the game yeah actually because Kivior was on at that point actually that's it so yeah it was late in the game and Kivior had come on and he I think he spotted that he could overpower him and target him yeah absolutely so and look Look, I think that's probably the case for all strikers.

14:24More goals go in, don't they? I don't check the data on this. I'm sure I'm right. But more goals go in in the last half an hour of a game as games stretch and teams tire and blah, blah, blah. Certainly last night in the Champions League. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And look at the Sunderland home game recently. Jokrez comes on. He scores twice. And I think he's probably been quite unfortunate in terms of the injury situation means he usually has to start because Havertz and Jesus have had those question marks over their fitness. So he's not the guy that gets to come on. At the same time, he hasn't, none of them, neither him or Jesus have been good enough to this point to really justify staying on for the whole game.

15:10I kind of tend to think like your absolute A-star, A-grade attacker stays on. I think we've started to withdraw Saka a little bit more just because of fears over his fitness. Before that, he was a 90-minute every-game guy, just like Salah, just like Haaland. I do tend to think that the big guys stay on and Jokras hasn't been that yet and neither has Jesus and Havertz is not able to be that at the moment. So circumstantially, he's probably been a bit unlucky in that respect. But what he's got, if we look ahead to next season and the rest of his Arsenal career, is this has been quite... I remember saying this when Havertz got injured at the beginning of the season, like this is a good opportunity for him to start 10, 12, 15 out of 18 or something like that and really, really kind of get that kind of rhythm of playing games, which I do think will serve him better in the long run as well.

16:15and it's not just about him. I'm sure we'll come onto this when we talk about Eza. I think one of the things Arteta's worked out about Jokrez now is we need to get guys close to him. We can't have him. He's probably not technically good enough to hold a ball for 10 seconds and wait for people to arrive. It's kind of more likely to bounce off him. But, and again, you guys talked about this on Monday, if it bounces off him and Eza's five yards away from him, Havertz is five yards away from him, you know you can work with that and I think that's one of the things potentially Arteta's worked out is almost having that like second striker to support him and so we're learning about him as his as he's learning about us and that although it's felt quite slow and I'm not proclaiming any victory laps because let's have it right Wolves and Brentford he was rubbish he was absolute rubbish in both games so I don't think one game has totally changed course yet We need a bit more, but I do think there is something in Arteta working out.

17:19Let's get guys close to this guy. Yeah, well, and also, look, I think when you like a player and you want to defend him, you say the system is not supporting them. When you don't like a player and you don't want to defend him, you say they played like crap, right? I mean, the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. You have to platform players. And I don't see how putting the sprinters on the wings helps Victor Jokeres get the ball. I don't see how Martinelli, Nani, Jokeres is a sensible front three. I don't see that dynamic working. But Leo, Saka, Eza, players that like to get into more central spaces, players that are more adept at combining, right?

17:56Players that will get closer to the striker and exchange passes. I think that's more the thing we need. And if you look at a couple of opportunities in this game, Jokeres' first goal, Eza's right there. They're two at the top of the box, one defender trying to mark both guys. the defender follows Ezza and Jokras has the space. If there's one thing I've noticed about Jokras, he doesn't get his shot off as much as I had hoped in the Premier League. And I think the reason for that, and I'm going to get into sort of technical analysis here, which is a dangerous place for me to go because I don't necessarily have the eye for it like some of the other people that are usually on this podcast and yourself, Tim.

18:29So I'm just going to throw this out there and if you disagree, you can tell me. But I think he likes to have the ball out of his body a little bit to strike. I don't think he's got that low back lift quick snapshot that like Saka has, right? He wants to roll the ball away from his body to shape the shot, to really create that power. And unfortunately, what he's finding in the Premier League is that setup touch is where you lose the ball. You don't have time. But if you look at his two goals in this game, the ball from Timber into him, the defender follows Ezza, so he's able to sort of bounce it off of one foot to stride on it with the other.

18:59And the second one, he actually steps on the ball, but he gets a little bit of a break because he gets some backspin and it just kind of slides one yard from his body and he's able to curl it. So I do think it would be great if he could develop his shooting so that he can take shots quicker with less backlift instead of having to set it up. But those combination players take defenders away and give him some more room to do that. So I think the combination play was really important. And that does get us to Ebrecha Eza because, Tim, it's going to be a big decision point for Mikel. He's played great in both derbies.

19:28I think he's been mixed outside of that. But the real key for Eza has been, can he get on the ball? And Mikel made some interesting comments about Eza post-match saying, you know, he was angry with me for not picking him. He had a point to prove and he proved it. But Mikel said, I figured out how to use him. It's an interesting comment to make. It's pretty honest and open in a way of suggesting to some extent that maybe you hadn't had the right formula for the player. If you look at his heat map in the Derby, it's the exact heat map you'd want to draw up for a player with his skill set, but hasn't been common under Mikel, which is all across the pitch, the width of the pitch left to right at the top of the box a bit on the right wing a bit on the left wing and a lot in the half space top of the box double pivot and a 10 exactly and that hasn't been our system and I'm not totally convinced that Mikel wants that to be our system but when you look at what as has been able to produce when he's in those positions and when you get him on the ball it's hard to argue with so can you help me parse what Mikel may have learned about this player when he says I figured out how to use him.

20:34I found that a fascinating comment as well and it's more revealing than Arteta usually is but in saying that you could interpret it a couple of ways because I think one of the things we underestimate in terms of when you buy a player you might know them tactically you might think you know them tactically you might have a vision and all of that I think first of all what Arteta's shown is that he's willing to change his thinking on a player so Havertz I think we signed him to be a left eight who could play up front um when needed that switched the other way around Rice I think we probably bought as a six who could play as an eight we've switched that round like when he learns about players and he gets them and watch them in training every day he's shown that he's prepared to pivot on them yep um and then build around that and maybe we're coming to that point with Eza as well it's like okay I know what I've got here tactically so yeah maybe when it's Rice, Zubomendi and Erdegaard they can all be sixes and eights and tens based on play when I've got Eza he needs to be the 10 he needs to be the second striker and I need to stick the other guys behind him to platform him to do that don't get me wrong I do think we've also done that at times and it just hasn't worked as well I do think there's something about the opposition here but when he said i've worked out you know how to get the best out of him that that's in a man management sense right and one of the things i've read many times that arteta is good at and it and it is evident it has to be he could not be doing this if he wasn't a good man manager and i've never heard anyone say he's not basically i've never heard any dissenting um no one's really fallen out with him if they accept mateo genduzzi and who hasn't he fallen out with even a bamiyang sounds quite contrite when he's interviewed now he's he's a bit like yeah it probably had to happen you know so he's clearly a good man manager but i guess it takes some time to work out the person you're managing as well so when he says that about eza does he mean i need him angry leo trossard style you know i need to um the player who you sit in a dark room and tell him he's not good enough for 12 hours yeah all that uh second simpsons analogy of the day um there's there's a scene where chief wiggum's teasing the police dogs like they're all in a cage and he's like waving a stake in front of them and singing off key like like is that who is it is it i need him to be angry or is it the other way around is it no this is an arm around the shoulder guy this is a guy that actually if i am gonna leave him out i have to sit him down explain why and I have to have a much more open line of communication?

23:22Or is it, yeah, like Leo Trossard, that is a man motivated by grievance. So, you know, it does seem that Arteta can do both of those things in terms of man management. And it sounds interesting to me that he feels like he's maybe worked out the motivation side of managing Eberic as a, even if we'll see on the tactical side. Yeah, I mean, I guess we're going to find out because obviously there's going to be a lot of, I was going to say pressure on Mikel. I don't think Mikel feels pressure based on what fan expectation is for lineups. So I'll take that back. But I think there'd be a lot of reason for him to pick Ezza again.

24:04Now we know Mikel has endless belief in and confidence in Martin Odegaard, who is now back and fit. And traditionally, when Odegaard is fit, he plays. I don't know how you play as an Odegaard together unless you're planning to play as on the left. And while I think that would be an exciting thing to see, we've not seen Mikel do it. Well, not since the Villa game anyway. And until we see it again, I'm not going to have an expectation of it happening. Let's just talk about Chelsea for a second before we talk about the Arsenal. side of how we approach this game. Look, they've been a pain in our ass in some respect.

24:39We beat the hell out of them in the first leg of the League Cup, but didn't get the goals we should have. So it was a little closer than we'd like in the second leg, but we got through, no problem. We did get the fun Kai goal at the end. So fun moments there. Obviously disappointed not to beat the 10 men of Chelsea when we drew with them. They're just a pain in the neck because they're extremely emotional and energetic and they turn games into street fights. um they do have the talent so isn't it it is yeah it is and similar right like how bruno and joel linton run around trying to hurt people you have the same kind of thing with kaisado and kukurea um liam liam de lapp is a miserable bastard and so they can pick a very loathsome and detestable team even setting aside that they're wearing chelsea kits to begin with um i would say that they have an attack that really can cause problems but defensively they're a bit of a mess and fofano won't be there now because he picked up a red card in their draw against Burnley.

25:35It's been a real mixed bag for them. I'll ask you first what you make of them. And in particular, is this a team you just set out similar to Spurs to attack? Not because they can't hurt you, but because if this turns into a boxing match where you're going swing for swing attacking wise, we have defenders who can do a job and they don't. So is it a case of go get more goals than they can get? Yeah, I think so. I definitely look at the back half of their team as weaker than the front half because the way they construct their squad is entirely about resale value and attackers go for more than defenders, so they stack up on attackers.

26:15Which is working great, by the way, since they set a record for losses this year. Yeah, of course. But that is why they do it. That's why they won't buy a good goalkeeper because they don't sell for very much. So what's the point? So, yes, I would go with that. Again, I think that is the teachable moment from the North London derby. again i think that is the momentum we want from the north london derby and i've read something interesting actually about um about alex ferguson's manchester united in that you know one of the things they were kind of famed for was getting late goals throwing all the forwards on and blah blah blah and uh apparently ferguson maybe had said in one of his books or something that the biggest part of the reason to do that was the maths basically was like he knew one or two times I'm going to put on four forwards and I'm going to lose a goal and we're going to lose but actually I think most of the time we'll win if I do that but he also said the psychological kind of the he he thought that there was a greater value in wins psychologically where either you'd thrown all the forwards on and won it late or you'd given the opposition a bit of a battering he felt that that was like a more satisfying way to win and that that gave the group a better feeling.

27:32Don't get me wrong, if we do them in exactly the same way as we did in the Carabao Cup with a last-minute Kai Havertz goal, you're not going to find me doing anything other than dancing in the street. However, I do think there is a thing to... I think we want to try and bottle what Dr. Tottenham gave us as much as we possibly can and swig on it. for a little bit and like if we if we have to try and win one or two nil and grit out fair enough that's what the game presents but I kind of want us to ride this for a little while and go no no we've got loads of great attackers we've got guys that can score goals we've got Ezra and Jokra has got two each and Saka didn't get any Martinelli didn't get any Trossard didn't get any any one of those guys could have scored Madueke only came on in stoppage time I kind of want us to believe in that a little bit so I think there would be a real value in attacking this game I also think Chelsea are going to try and do the same thing probably that they did in the Carabao Cup semi-final and I think that would make some sense because they're not losing it's no I think it made sense in the Carabao Cup to be honest but I think they'll look at it and go yeah okay they did us that time but you know what nil-nil is probably not a bad result we won't have to chase anything this time if it's nil-nil with five minutes to go.

28:56And maybe we'll get something. Maybe the margins will come out on our side. So I am expecting, at least initially, Chelsea to be that cautious again. I could be wrong about that, though. They've only conceded 10 more goals than us this season, which it's not that that's nothing, but they're not terrible defensively from that standpoint. But almost 20 more goals on XG. We've been quite unfortunate. It has been popularly publicized that we've allowed more goals than our expected goals, which is not common for us, especially recently, but almost 20 expected goal difference defensively. When you look at the attacking side of the game, again, Chelsea have 48 goals, Arsenal have 56, but they have 52 expected goals to our 48.

29:44I think actually they are the top XG team in the league with City and Arsenal close to each other in second and third in that order. So, you know, again, it is the case that they can hurt you in attack. But I've been saying this a lot recently, Tim. I think there's scope for, to your point about the way it feels winning by attacking and going, getting goals. But also, when you invest as heavily as we have and as much talent as we have at the back, what is the point of having that talent if it doesn't give you some freedom to go attack more with the premise that that talented defensive unit can bail you out if you're a little more exposed than you might otherwise want to be and I get that our structure is about control but when you have Rice and Saliba and Gabby and Timber and Riot like you could probably commit more to the attack and you could probably tolerate having an Eberachia as in there who you know you might say isn't as switched on defensively now it's his ball recovery that leads to his second goal in the Spurs game.

30:47So also great to see that. Every player should do everything, but different players have different skill sets. I'm curious what you think he might do defensively though, because I presume it'll be Timber again. I don't know that Ben White is fit. Timber's also carrying something though. Mascara has looked great. So there is the chance that he might want to lean on the player who is more fit and not play Timber into an injury. Piero and Cappy has been playing great. Calafiori is back. So I think he does have some interesting choices to make at fullback. Could you see Mikel rotating Timber out to keep him safe from injury or rotating Calafiore in light of how well Pierron Capi has been playing?

31:26I think the fact that there's been a week's run-up to this game suggests we probably will see Timber. But obviously, we've got a midweek game away at Brighton as well. So I think, you know, in terms of the selection, guys we don't see in this game we might see on Wednesday night. I think what we saw against Tottenham was that Mascara is more than a serviceable substitute at right back. I actually think Mascara's substitute appearance is bad news for Ben White. Actually, maybe short and long term. Like, I can put this guy on at right back for the last 20 minutes and he's very good at him. And that feels a little bit ominous for me, for Ben White.

32:06I'd be really interested to see what he does at left back. my instinct is that we'll see the same team actually I think Hincapier is playing really well and while that is the case he will kind of keep the shirt and again Wednesday night is a chance to rotate there if if necessary um and I kind of think he kind of has to start Eza and Jokerez after after last weekend and I think one of the things you know that Arteta was referring to in Eza being angry was that he played really well against Wigan. And Saka got that position in midfield. That was really weird, wasn't it? That was really weird. Yeah, so I did feel like that felt harsh or ominous on Eza.

32:56It's like, oh, so the second Havertz came back, he took that kind of central spot. And then Saka plays it for 45 minutes and now he's got it ahead of you. so I kind of feel like he kind of has to but at the same time maybe he wants to make him angry again maybe he wants to say I'll leave you out and then I'll play you against Brighton and you're an ex-Palace player so you probably don't like them very much and you know you like scoring against like in in those sorts of games so you know I but I I tend to think that the delta what Arteta usually does is if a player's played well I think he tries to keep them in generally speaking particularly if they've scored and actually like he referenced that part of the reason he started Eza away at Spurs was because of what happened in the home game like I'm sure it was mainly a tactical decision i.e Spurs do dumb stuff that Eza and Eza's goal scoring record against them for Palace is very good like Spurs give up spaces he likes I'm sure that was mainly the decision.

34:01But I do think that Arteta respects the vibes, as it were. And he's done that before, hasn't he? I'm sure he's done the like, oh, he scored against them in the last game, so I've played him in this game. He clearly believes in the good feeling, the vibes-y selection. So I do think we'll see the same team again. And then on Wednesday, we might see a couple of changes. Yeah. I don't think it's just vibes, by the way, because I think when you have a big squad, you have to try to generate a meritocracy so players at least understand if I play well, I get in. What you don't want in a big squad is a player who knows there is no world where they can impact their selection.