Andre Ward: ‘I Knew Going Into Kovalev 2 That Was My Last Fight’ | Virgil Hunter Part 2

24:45You said, no, you need to build yourself up to 175. Just because you weigh 175 doesn't mean your body settled into 175. So we were able to get two tune-up fights and then the third fight, November 19, 2016, we ended up fighting Sergey Kovalev. But when you first start hearing about Kovalev, what did you know about him and what did you feel about me fighting him? Well, I had watched Sergey Kovalev long before they even suggested that. Before he even won his title when he came on the scene. I watched him and I was real impressed with him. I realized that I never thought we'd end up fighting, but I was impressed with him.

25:22The way he did things, the way he went about things. So he never left my mind, but I was a fan at the time. You was a fan? I was a fan of Kovalev. Come on, man, you ain't tell me that before we fought. I was a fan of Kovalev. I like how he got down. For real? Yeah. That is crazy. I liked how he got down. You was a fan or you just liked his fighting style? Well, I was a fan up until the point we was going to fight him. Then I was the enemy. I was no longer a fan. That's crazy. But as long as we weren't fighting him, I was a fan. I actually rooted for him in fights. Wow. Because I liked the way he operated.

25:52I liked his smoothness. I liked his, you know, how he moved in on you. I ain't like nothing about that. But when they came with that, actually, they came before the Paul Smith fight with that. So I told Jay, I said, we need three tune-up fights. We need a whole year. Because I had been off. Of tune-ups, because he'd been off, and we got to acclimate and build into this weight. We're not just going to step up and take this fight, because that's what they really wanted us to do. Because Peter Nelson, Peter Nelson was a good man, but he allowed me to have open dialogue with him, not to suppress what I needed to say.

26:30And I told him I said I know the network is pushing Kovalev and they want to do it at our expense So since they want to do it at our expense, we need three fights We need three fights because he's not a light heavyweight yet And I'm not gonna sit he's putting him in a situation where he hasn't acclimated to the weight so they agreed so we got there with them them three tuna fights and Man, I training camp Leading up to that fight was crazy. It was a tough camp, you know continued to have issues with my right knee. It was a good camp, but it was a tough camp because the knee kept swelling up. It'd be three, four times the size of my left knee.

27:11I'd have a good sparring day, and then boom, my knee. I couldn't do nothing the next day. And I'm the type of guy, as you know, like I want to check my box, especially for a big moment. I did everything I was supposed to do. And God stripped that from me, you know. and I had two or three times at camp. I'm walking around my condo or outside, like talking to you and Virg and Josh, like, man, I don't know if I can take the fight. You're like, you're going to take the fight, man. We can't, you know. I'm like, V, but man, like that's the most dangerous dude I'm fighting. I don't have my best weapon, my leg, man.

27:44Trust me, man. God's got you. And it was like, I felt it and I believed it, but I'm caught in between the tension of like believing and not believing and just like in my mind, I'm like, why would he put me in a situation like this? Why this right now? And I was getting my knee drained two hours before I went to the arena. You want to know why it turned out like that? Because I think when you was at first turn pro and you started playing basketball, and I warned you, I said, look, when you first start playing full court basketball, don't play no more than two games for about a month. I said, because what's going to happen is you're in good physical shape, so you're not going to get tired.

28:28But your ligaments and tendons are not basketball prepared. And if you overdo it, you're going to pop something. And that's just what happened. Yeah, I was too young, too impatient to listen to that. I was too impatient. I said, don't play no more than two games at a time for the first month. Then add a game and you'll be okay. Because I played high-level basketball, I know, right? You can't just go into one sport and go 100 miles an hour because your cardiovascular system was so sound You wasn't gonna get tired, but your legs and ligaments are gonna get tired and that's how it popped How was you feeling walking to the ring for that fight knowing everything I've been through good camp, but imperfect camp I was very confident because I knew we had more than one plan I knew we had more than one plan.

29:12I knew from watching Kovalev over and over again certain fights I never saw him fight on the inside Never So that lets me know That you don't like inside fighting Or you can't fight on the inside Which we're both through to be true So that gave us a plan B Right So after the first two rounds And shaking Trying to find your steps And everything We went to plan B And plan B ended up Being up the second fight What you thinking When I got dropped though The second round I didn't feel no panic Because you only went to one knee Yeah Right? So I knew he was all right. And then he had 30 seconds left to land the finish line, and he never landed it.

29:52Right? So I knew we had it. Everybody was panicking at ringside. Come on. I said, look, leave him alone. He's going to be okay. Just leave him alone. Don't let him hear all this anxiety coming to ringside. Don't let him hear all this doubt in your voice. Just let him listen to me. Right? So we took it to the inside. And that's where his kryptonite was. I think that's the best fight you ever coached. Yeah. Because you needed to be that. You know, and them clips go viral every time they put them on the internet because it was real. Don't leave nothing to chance now. You got him, you understand? When this is clicking and that's hitting, you got him.

30:34That power jab, when he comes to you, step in with it and look at that target and bang, okay? And bring both feet with you, okay? Down low where you can latch through your legs, okay? Right when you step in, keep everything tight and crack. Now, I believe you closed the gap. We got to win every single round. You hear me? You start to put it together. You're great, man. This is what greatness is. Robinson done got up. Leonard done got up. Arlene got up. You got up. Do it! I didn't hear no panic, but I heard urgency. Yeah. Like, we need this. Well, I wanted to appeal to that side of you. You know, I didn't really go into boxing instructions.

31:13Right, right, right. I didn't say, news your jab more, do this more. I didn't say that. I appealed to your instincts, your ability to adjust instincts, and your will to win. That's what I appealed to. And gave you the picture, gave you the vision, and you've been done. It's crazy because, you know, my critics, they like to poke at that fight like it was something wrong with that fight. It's like, well, first of all, did y 'all forgot what y 'all said leading into the fight? Oh, Ward, you know, he deep. He ain't finna beat this dude. he finna get clicked. He was supposed to finish me. Right? We shouldn't even be talking about whether a fight was close or not down the stretch.

31:51But, you know how it is with people when they get able to see a knockdown. Oh, he won the fight just because of knockdown? That early? And, you look at the scorecards, I won that fight because I closed like a champion as opposed to close throughout the fight but in that 12th round. He took his foot off the gas. Fight fans who are not around fighting all the time, they see what they wanna see. They see what they want to see. They never even fight announcers today. Fight media. They see what they want to see. They root who they want to root for. And when you have that type of mentality to judge a fight, you're not looking at what the other person is doing.

32:28You're not looking how systematic this is changing around. Because you're only looking at your guy and what he does. So every time he throws some punches, you cheer. Yeah. You're not looking at the fact that I slipped him and that I blocked him. And then hit him with two body shots. And you don't realize when he's grabbing me, I'm sticking him underneath, breaking him down. You don't even realize right in front of your eyes he's breaking down. You don't even realize it. See? So quite naturally, fans of Kovalev are going to say Kovalev won. That's what fans of Kovalev are going to say. Or people that just don't like me.

32:58Or people that just don't like you, right? Because the networks have promoted him so much, and he was just destroying people so bad. And it was a legitimate reputation. Yeah, he had a legitimate reputation. And he was a darling to the networks, right? He was a darling to the networks. You know, the way they promoted him with the Sinister, smiling the jack-o'-lantern, he was a darling to the network. So it was a situation that fans are going to always see what they want to see in a fight. So I got on the ropes when they announced a decision, and my critics said, ah, you look surprised. They don't know that you whispered to me that...

33:36I already told you you won. I knew I won. I think it was Dino Duva that told you. He came, I think it was Dino. It was Josh. Was it Josh? It was Josh. Josh came and you said, hey, we got about one round. Before Buffer even had a chance to even read the scorecard. You thought you lost, brother. I knew I won. Like I literally knew I won. You kind of know. If you get somebody to look at me, hey, man, you got it. They'll send you a little kite and let you know. But it's so crazy, man. Man, that's probably, Kovalev 2 is like the polished, like we did everything we were supposed to do the first time type of fight, and it was beautiful and it was systematic.

34:18But that first fight is different because I had to get it out the mud. I had to, you know, dig myself out of a hole, something I never had to do as a professional, and do it against that dude on that stage. That's one of my favorite fights. And people don't realize that, like, I found out everything I needed to know about him in the first fight. leading into the second fight. I knew. I felt him weakening. I knew he didn't have no answers. I saw. I knew he didn't close strong late 11 and 12. We knew about all the bad habits. Right? And, uh. Say big on your landscaping project. Now at Menards. Whether you're installing a patio or a new retaining wall, Menards has the blocks you need to get the job done right.

35:00We carry the largest in-stock selection. Ready to take home today. Stop in and get our 12-inch smooth patio block on sale now. Save big on concrete landscape blocks at Menards. Plus, check out our weekly flyer on Menards.com for all the great deals happening now. Save big money at Menards. After that fight, though, after the first cover-layer fight, I didn't come back to the gym for like three months. I didn't touch the gym. Didn't want nothing to do with it. And I was like, I think I may be done. You know what I'm saying? Like, I fight the guy that nobody wants to fight. I do what you say I'm not going to do, and it still ain't good enough.

35:37You know, it kind of felt like already dealing with the stuff physically, but then also it's like, what's the point? You know, what's the point? And we did decide to take the second fight, and, you know, it was a money thing at that point in time, and we got the money where we needed to get it. I don't know if you know, I don't think we ever talked about this, but I knew going into that fight that was my last fight. I knew it, you know, I knew it. And I think that helped me because I could see the light at the end of the tunnel. And I chose to do it like that, V, because, you know, I didn't want you coaching me different.

36:18I didn't want that on your mind. I didn't want none of that. You know, and I didn't even really know how you was going to take it. And I wasn't 100 % sure, too. I wanted some space, too. If I decided to not do it, I had that space, too. but I knew man I was 90 % sure that like this is it and I knew I had to win because if I lose or if it's close they're going to give it to him and we got to do a third fight we can't leave it 1-1 so I had a lot of motivation going into that fight man and that's probably the best camp I had I was happy I was super sharp and I remember before the first day that I came back to the gym after being off for three months you said we're going to stop him.

37:00I said, how? I didn't say it in disbelief, but I was like, how? He was like, to the body. And sure enough, that's what happened. That's what happened. I think he retired at the right time. It didn't bother me at all because we had talked about it for years. I mean, to go back to day one when I first saw you, to your last fight, that's a journey for a book. I mean, that's a journey, man. And when I look back on that journey and the years that it covered, it's a journey. So when you told me, I think that's it. I know I could tell your voice. You expected me to say, why, man, why? No, I don't have nothing else to prove.

37:39I came out on top. I'm number one in the world. I defended my title. I'm a two-time champion. But I got other options now. I got other irons in the fire. I got an exit strategy. You see what I'm saying? So it was the right time. And like I said, I think that God allowed these ailments to come on you, not to really hamper you, but to remind you, you know, that this ain't going to last forever. And if I got to go through each camp dealing with this or dealing with that, well, actually, this was healed, right? The shoulder was healed. The shoulder was healed to deal with this and everything like that and on and on.

38:17And now I'm coming off a high of stopping this guy. Now, what's next? I gotta fight another year or so before Bibble and Bidabev come along, right? They weren't even in position. Yes, so who am I gonna fight that's gonna bring me the recognition? None of them was gonna bring the recognition, Kovalev. Bibble and Bidabev have not been promoted like Kovalev was promoted. Kovalev was promoted big time. He was a darling of HBO. So you went out at the right time, my way. I did it my way. And it's always gonna be haters. but without haters we don't get the achievements that we have or we don't get to honor our achievements or enjoy our achievements so I beat I beat Kovalev the second time and well not to cut you off but look what HBO offered after the second Kovalev fight they called me and said Virg just pick anybody you want to fight that's a down that's going down you see what I'm saying so I can pick anybody anybody you want to fight just pick them yeah so So, like I think a month or so after the fight, you know, I start kind of feeling like, man, maybe I'll stick around because all my deals start renewing.

39:29Well, you actually came to the gym a few times. Yeah, I sparred. So I start, I remember I had on like that pink set I had on. I remember like it was yesterday, man, the winning set. It was all pink. My Jordan deal was getting renewed. My HBO, like fighting deal and my commentating deal was getting renewed. Other sponsorships was getting renewed. and I was supposed to train that day and I remember I was just sitting at the house and I was just it just hit me like I was I was turning the corner like man okay maybe maybe I'll do one more maybe two more it just hit me and I was just like I don't want to do this no more man I don't want to do this no more and normally when I talk like that my wife Tiff she she like it ain't it ain't time I feel you I know you know I know it's rough but man you she was like man Just hearing you talk today, she was like, man, I think the decision is already made.

40:20It's tough for me, V, because, you know, like, I didn't say nothing to you about retirement. You was the last person I called, man. Because I just, it was tough, you know? And I'm a person that I can carry other people's stuff, you know? I can carry other people's, you know, what I think, how I think they gonna respond, you know? and you hadn't mentioned nothing to me about retirement. You hadn't said nothing like that. So I didn't, I didn't, I knew you wasn't thinking about that. And I remember the night before I announced it, I didn't tell really anybody, man, because I didn't want it to leak and I didn't want, I didn't want nobody to try to talk me out of it.

41:02And it was just a personal decision, you know. And so I told you the night before. I called you that night. I was at Jack London Square in Oakland. And I was like, man, I got to call him. I'm going to announce this in the morning. I got to call him. And I remember I called you. And I didn't know what you was going to say. And you was like, he was like, man, I'm happy for you, man. You know, he said, man, they never got a chance to see you beat up, bloody, slurring. He said, I'm happy for you. And, but it's hard to believe that I believe you was happy for me. but it's hard to believe that that was like, that's all you felt though.

41:44That's tough to say. I mean, like, I'm going to be real with you. It's days, even today, where I feel bad. I feel bad because we had a system, we had a program, and just that one decision shook everything up. You know what I'm saying? It never came negative to me because we had talked about it from day one and I knew it wasn't my plan. Yeah, but for the day to be here is different than talking about it. You mean being here at this moment? No, no, I'm saying like the day arriving, oh, he really going to retire. Like that's different than saying, well, you need to retire on top one day. That's in the future.

42:27But when the phone call comes through, it's a different conversation. It's real now. it didn't affect me one way i was happy come on no i was happy i was happy what you you had no regrets no struggles no the only thing the only thing that i say and i don't regret it the only thing i say is after the second covalet fight you had gotten to a real groove because that was your fifth fight after the layoff so and i said your best years would be 35 and 36 right So that's the only thing I'm left to wonder with. Wonder what he could have been at that time because I saw it. Once you got into that groove and once you had beat Kovalev, now he's going to be very difficult to deal with.

43:13I don't care what they say about Bible and Bita Bell. They're great fighters, powerful fighters, but that will to win is something they've never been confronted with, the style that you, the jack-o'-lantern, the jack-of-all-trade styles that you could do. That's not knocking them. I think both of them dangerous, and I wouldn't be surprised if they won the fight. Against who? Against you? Nah. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. You're going to put that out there for the people, man? I'm just kidding. That's crazy. I'm just kidding. I just wanted to get a reaction out of you, OTV.

43:45Hold on, bro. No, but I was happy because it was done, and I knew everything was right. I knew you didn't have to take a fight. That was what I didn't want to do. I was taught by old trainers when it's over, whether they physically done or they mentally done. They done, right? Because once you start wrestling with should I retire, shouldn't I retire, that takes an edge off of you. Because you got should and shouldn't involved. Instead of I am, I should, and I'm going to do it. It should, maybe I'm not going to do it. All these factors come into play. So you can find yourself in a fight that you're supposed to dominate, and you'll slip.

44:23You know, you'll have a poor performance because you're jacking with yourself. You're playing with yourself. You're like, should I or shouldn't I? And that's not a good attitude or good mindset to take into the ring. Yeah. But, I mean, when I looked around, everything was set. Your family was set. You were set. Everything was taken care of. What more can't you want? They can throw money in your face. If you announced that you was coming back today, somebody would have a couple million, two or three million dollars on the table for you. I was going to be worried more than that. Well, more than that.

44:54If you announced it today. so just knowing that it's consolation for me it's consolation for me and then I have a great example, a great target piece to other fighters that come in that's so curious about you and wanting to come in and change their careers and everything I have something that's very factual something that's proven to tell them, now whether they embrace it or not that's another thing but you left me with a foundation and you know I'm benefiting from that foundation to this day. You see? So, no. I'm very happy. I didn't have one negative thought about it. Did you think I was going to do it?

45:37Once you told me you was. And then what else is left to prove? I don't have nothing else to prove. I just beat the boogeyman in the division. What else do I have to prove? And I went out and I stopped him. Something that you guys never thought was possible. never envisioned him being stopped never envisioned him quitting before he got stopped see no that's going to be a hard one to top that's going to be a hard one the last fight they remember is going to be that one they're not going to remember you on the ground they're not going to remember you taking fights when you waved past your prime look at Joe Lewis right now a great heavyweight right but they still show fights that he shouldn't have took with Marciano with Ezra Charles and places like that.

46:24It wipes out all the great things you've done. And then when you got to fight because you have to fight for money, it's a sad situation. The young guys, I tell them all the time, I haven't told them, but I wonder, why when you start making big money, the next thing I do, I see you at the ringside with$250 ,000,$300 ,000 around you. Well, they ain't never had it. And it's like, that's what they've been looking at when they didn't have it. Here's a case of having men around you. Where is somebody to say, wait a minute, man? you can take this money, put yourself in a position where you can own the jewelry store over a period of time.

46:57And then you can wear everything free, like Johnny Dang, right? He owns a jewelry store so he can bling up any time he wants to, any which way he wants to, because he owns it. You got something around your neck that's going to depreciate, right, in time. So you take that$300 ,000 and you can go get four or five houses, put$50 ,000 on houses in certain neighborhoods, and now you got income coming, equity building and everything like that. It's none of my business, but it does affect me in a way when I see value around your neck. When I see generational wealth being put around your neck and hung up in the closet somewhere when you're not doing it.

47:39I see generational wealth. Because you're going to need it. Right. You're going to need that money one day. Right. when you go buy, what, a Bentley or something like that, you see? If you can afford it. If you can afford it. But that's the tricky part, can you afford it? Can you afford it? No. Not the flaw. So, but it's a short sport. It's a short game. It can end at any time. Straight up. Any time. I don't care how good you are, anything. One wrong move. Just be injured. Wrong, wrong punch in the wrong place. And it's a wrap, you see? And you never recover from that. So, no, I appreciate when you got out.

48:15And I don't ever have to look back. You know, I used to tell you I don't ever want to be an old coach on a stump sitting somewhere talking about, man, I should have done this because I allowed somebody to keep going and getting brain damage. I don't care who it is. If I got guys in here now and it don't look like they got it, I'm going to tell them. I don't care if you got a million-dollar payday on the table. I'm going to tell you because I'm not going to sell out to money. you know I care about you you're in a sport that you can get hurt killed and affect not only you but your family and everything else you know so take the sport serious because it's a serious sport it's a deadly sport and when you have ability and you're going through the routines and everything and everything is shining your way still something can show up out of nowhere there's always somebody that's your kryptonite always somebody that's your kryptonite and usually you meet them at the time that your skills are eroding.

49:09You see, what do great champions have to do to keep their name going? They've got to fight somebody that's more superior than them at the time, but their name brings the value, so they make money on their name because that's the only way they know how to make money because when they were making money, they never took the time to invest the money and learn how to make money, make money for them. You know, they're too busy partying, too busy having a good time, too busy hanging around with a whole bunch of 10 to 20 in the posse and things like that. But to each and every one, I don't knock everyone's journey.

49:38I don't knock everyone's desires on how they want to get down. But just being my age of 72 and being around, coming through the civil rights era and things like that, and being around so many incarcerated kids, you know, I do have a desire in my heart to see these guys make it. I want to see them make it. I want to hear some stories. Man, I own the block. Terrence Crawford owns the block, right? I hear Shakur got houses and things like that. I want to hear those success stories that if it ends today, I got something to fall back on. You know, and go to school. If you don't go to school, start reading everything in sight because if you could read and comprehend, you're going to be able to make it.

50:21Yeah. I think the last thing you told me the night before I retired was, and don't come back either. You said, don't come back. Don't come back. Because it ain't going to never be the same. You ain't never wanting me to come back? The only reason why I can see you coming back is because you have to come back. Right? And you didn't have to come back. So don't come back. But if you, sometimes you play games with yourself, three or four months later it could change. But I would have definitely asked you, are you sure? Are you sure? Because you, three months ago you weren't talking like this, but you're talking different today.

50:57But I know how fighters, they'll change. Right? Because they're going through these camps, tired of these camps. I'm tired of being away from my family. I'm tired of the negative media. I'm tired of being shafted here, shafted there. I'm just tired. But then after a month or two, you watch a fight on TV, you say, no, man, I'm going to get back with it, right? So, but when you retire on top, everything else is beneath you. You don't have nothing else to prove. I proved it in my time frame. I don't have to prove it in yours. I don't have to prove it in nobody else's. I proved it in my time frame.

51:31That was my time, and I proved it. So I don't have to go soliciting any more time or soliciting any more approval from anybody. And I know that where I left, where I left off, any era type of fighter, I could fight in any era and get respect. That's right. Not an era that's out there from a toughness standpoint, a skill standpoint, an endurance standpoint. Like, I feel like I would have been a great 15-round fighter. And most important, your peers respect you. Yeah. See, when you get respect from your peers, whether they like you or not, they got to respect you. You know you did it right. You didn't cheat the game.

52:10You didn't cut no corners. You put everything you had in the game from the time you was nine years old. You put your whole life into it. Like you said before, you sacrificed a childhood. But what would that a childhood entail? God wanted you to be a man quick. And by the time you was married, you was a man. But if you'd had other activities going on and everything, you still might have been a playful guy around that time. So we can't ever question our journey We just got to look back and make sure that people who are coming up behind us that seem to be on the path of the same journey I took I could tell you where the pit stops are the pitfalls.

52:42I could tell you where don't go this way, man I've been this way. Don't I could tell you all these things whether they listen or not is a different story But if they don't listen and then encounter what you warned them about Now that's a lesson right there from them to listen to you now. You see what I'm saying? with me telling you you was going downhill, that's something that you can actually validate. You can validate it, right? Because I saw it, right? I saw it. But I knew my position. I knew I had to be there. And I dedicated myself to being there because I knew it was not in vain. I knew it was for nothing.

53:19I just knew it. I'm going to say this in closing, man. You know, it's been, you know, man, I'm super grateful, man. Like, I can't even describe how grateful I am to be, to have sparred and fought as many rounds as I fought and still be able to live to talk about it. Yeah. You know, and to be that example. Because I didn't have a lot of them examples. As a professional, I'm like, oh, he got out on top. He got out on top. She got out on top. We didn't have a lot of that. No. It's tools and fuels. You know, you can count on one hand. And I know that what I did is going to have impact throughout generations.

53:56I don't care what people say. I don't care how they try to spin it. That's, man, it's a handful of people. Even Floyd ain't even been able to stay away. Pacquiao. You know what I'm saying? They ain't even stay away. And they're all-time great fighters. So it's a unique place. And you see, you know, other generations, Terrence coming behind me doing it, and then it's going to continue to build. And I believe the Shakur's and hopefully Devin Haney and other ones are able to do the same thing. You know what I mean? And I wish I was around the gym more, man. man, V, it just be tough sometimes, man.

54:27It's like - I know, I understand. It's like you kind of mourning the career. Like, it ain't bad, but it's just, I remember walking through these doors every single day. You know what I'm saying? For some of the biggest moments of my life and grinding on them heavy bags and in this ring and jump roping right in front of that mirror. And it's like, sometimes it's cool and it's like it gives you life to be around fighters. Other times it's like, bang, bro, like, I'm never going to do this again. You know? So if you don't see me a lot of times, man, that's a lot of what that is, man. It's just be tough sometimes.

54:59No, I understand. And the other part I understand that it's good you stay out of the gym because it's a drug. Yeah, you start getting some thoughts. And it's just like any drug happens. You can kick the dope for 10 years, but you go around it again. Might get up. You're tempted to take a hit or you're tempted to shoot something in your arm. So it's good you're not around it. Yeah. Right? Like I hit you out the blue there one day off the couch. I said, man, come spar real quick. Yeah, just get it out your system. Just as it be you. No, it's good to stay away. Once you're done, you're done. That chapter is closed.

55:32I'm on the bigger and better things. And I think that's, you know, some of the lessons that we got to learn in life. If one chapter is closed, open up another one. I don't care how good I was. I don't care how good this chapter was, how much impact it had. I'm opening up another chapter because that part of my life is gone. You know, but it paved the way for the rest of my life. You see what I'm saying? And so when you have a chapter in life, make sure it's paving the way for your next chapter. And we're going to leave it there, man. I love you. Appreciate you, man. That's it, man. We out of here for the Art Award, man.

56:02We're going to catch you next time. Hope y 'all enjoyed that one.

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