Hall of Game Year-End Special: Jake Paul v Joshua Breakdown & Shedeur Sanders’ Hall of Fame Response

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2:14We two Hall of Famers will bring y 'all a show called The Hall of Game. A show where we discuss boxing, sports, life, and entertainment from our view. How much better than that can you get? Me and Roy don't always agree. But one thing you will get is a Hall of Fame worth a game. We back on the Hall of Game for the final episode of the year. And before I bring in my co-host, who I've been looking for, I've been looking for him. I've been asking y 'all to look for him. But before I do that, man, I got I got I'm a proud Navy father. I want to shout my son out, Andre Jr. He actually did his boot camp or basic training in P.

2:58Cola in Pensacola, Florida. And now he's stationed in Guam. Son, I love you. I miss you. We're looking forward to you coming home. We appreciate everything you're doing for the country. I just want to give my baby boy a shout out real quick. But I got it. I got to get back to my co-host. So every time I would get the drop on your location, you would go to another location. I ain't talking about statewide. I'm talking about from country to country. So I get the drop, and then you'll move on. I get another drop, then you move on. I got folks looking for you. You're finally back, Roy. We missed you.

3:28We happy you back, man. What's been going on? Man, life been good. Shout out to Pensacola NES, too, because they always support me to the fullest. So your son did a great job at a great place. Glad to hear that. Congratulations to you and him. Life been good, man. I've been going to a lot of boxing tournaments, boxing shows, professional and amateur. The boxing game has changed a lot, man. It's constantly changing every day. And if you don't keep up with what's happening, you can get lost. So, you know, I like to go out and see some of what's going on around the world just so I know. Because like I told you, I'm not a nationwide figure.

4:00I'm a worldwide figure. So when you're worldwide, you got to keep up with what's happening in the world if you're going to make a difference. And I'm the kind of person that tries to make a difference. So I got to know what's happening. Well, how they treat you in these other countries versus how they're doing in the U.S., is it different? Yes, much different. In Kazakhstan, it's like I was Michael Jackson in his prime. You understand me? And it's like these kids, they come out, they show up from four-year-olds on up, know Roy Jones Jr., know everything about Roy Jones Jr. You understand me? So it's like I hear when they talk about this legacy stuff, but it's like, can these guys go to Kazakhstan, four-year-old kids, understand and recognize and respect who they are?

4:36No, they cannot. So that list, they don't mean nothing to me. All them lists, they don't mean nothing to me. I look at reality, what God does. I look at God's work. God take me. I'd be all over the world and people in every country I go to be like, we want to meet Roy Jones Jr. We want a picture. We want an autograph. We want whatever, because they love and revere who Roy Jones Jr. is, what Roy Jones Jr. stood for and still stands for. So the rest of it, I don't care about. Yeah, we're not going to reference who the list came from. It's a lot of lists floating around. Yeah, I don't really care.

5:07Anybody can make them. anybody can create them but when one thing you cannot do though people try all the time is they try to rewrite history like history is s what has been done is what has been done what's set in stone is set in stone for the rest of our lives and what people try to do is they try to get creative and they try to you know mix and match and well i i didn't really like this guy so i'm gonna put this guy ahead of this guy just know you could do that everybody got can have an opinion everybody can have a say but the say isn't really respected and you lose credibility any credibility you had when you start to put out all decade list or you know 21st century list and you don't have certain names on there or you got certain names on there that uh how that happened you just lose credibility so y 'all can do what you do it's your platform it's it's it's your prerogative but just know man you cannot rewrite history no matter how hard you try before we jump into this boxing business, Roy, you know, we like to have at least one non-boxing take.

6:09We're not just former fighters and boxing fans. You know, we're sports fans. The Shador Sanders Cleveland Browns situation has been polarizing for, I believe, the nation, but certainly for myself. And this is a young man who was on many boards. Mel Kuyper had Shador Sanders going number one, but many people didn't see Shador Sanders ever slipping past the second round, and he didn't get drafted until the fifth round as the 144th pick. Some were saying it's collusion, it's to teach him a lesson. You know, the shield, the NFL, they want to send a message to Shadour, but more importantly to the Sanders family that, hey, this isn't going to be your show.

6:55We're going to do things the way we do things. That's not proven, but that's what a lot of people have been saying. And credit to Shador for not taking the bait because he's been baited multiple times after the draft, but then also since he's been drafted by the Cleveland Browns and he hasn't taken the bait. And that's not just media training. A lot of people say he's media trained. No, he's got good character and he has a lot better character than I think a lot of people thought he was going to have, because to be a projected first round or early second round pick and drop as far as he dropped, that can be very embarrassing.

7:34That can be very discouraging. But I've seen Shador Sanders up to this point do nothing but respond like a consummate professional, like he's been in the league 10, 12, 13 years. You know, reporters try to throw some bait out there, and it's really a knock on them, and it's really showing them how they feel about him because bro why would you try me like that why would this is this is national me this is worldwide media that's listening why would you ask that kind of question about my head coach if if if you thought I was intelligent enough to answer it the right way why would you do that and I think reporters don't realize that they ask certain questions and they don't realize that that's really a reflection on you brother but for asking me that right now because you know and I know that I can't answer that the way I want to or I'm not going to answer the way you want me to.

8:24Roy, where are you at with Shador Sanders? He's had several starts late in the season. He didn't get a lot of first team reps throughout the year. Yesterday was a tough game, but man, he's had great moments and some great games, and he's still got a lot of buzz. Yeah, I gotta be really careful here because my wife is looking at me, and she won't get mad because our son is trying to go to the NFL, so she don't want me to speak my true mind, so I gotta keep a muzzle on what I gotta say. You understand me? I respect it. The facts of the matter is that I've been kind of upset and humiliated about the whole situation since it happened.

9:00I text Deion earlier in the year and told him to tell his son, keep his head up. He's very smart, doing the right thing. He just played football and enjoyed himself. We know wrong treatment when we see it. And for me, in 2025, this is still going on. It's humiliating. You know, it's disgusting that we live in a place where in 2025, this kind of activity is still taking place. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sorry, but my mind is my mind. I am allowed to speak my mind. And that is effed up that that's going the way that's going. Because you know he was supposed to be the number one draft pick, not a number one draft pick.

9:32He was supposed to be the number one draft pick. But word got out that, I mean, they got the call, no, don't draft him. And he didn't get drafted by no team. Not just one team, no team. Then the team that did get him, I found out yesterday, I heard somebody say that somehow with Deion, made a through water on the coach back in the day or something. I don't know. and that's why the coach don't like, I don't know what the hell, but it don't matter what it is. There's so many stories around it that it's crazy, but it's like how can you draft a player that's supposed to be number one? Y 'all wait and don't let him get drafted until the fifth round or whatever it was.

10:08Then you usually draft him and sit him down. And every time he go out there and play, he's sure he's the best quarterback on the team. He might be one of the best quarterbacks in the league. He's sure every time you put him on the field. You know what I'm saying? Until yesterday, yesterday might have been the work they had. that he might have had three interceptions yesterday. That's the first time, but he ain't got the reps with the first team. He ain't got to play like he was supposed to get to play from the get-go as a starter being the guy that led the nation in passing yards last year. So it's a whole lot going on there.

10:34And like I said, it's bad to see that this kind of activity is still going on in 2025 and finna go into 26 in our country. So it's just crazy, you know. It befottles me. yeah it's man it's a lot of ways you can feel about this and but i always try to look for the response right like whether it's boxing or whether it's any high level sport things are going to happen it's not going to always go according to plan but i love shador's response you got to know that offline at home he has moments you got to know that he's having conversations with his father like man pops what's going on with this what you think about this his father has been there and done that right and but Shador has been in the spotlight since he's been a kid they had a reality show that you know where the world knew who Deion's family was he was a top prospect in high school he bought out in college and just to see his response man is a powerful powerful thing for me and sometimes God puts you in those positions because he's making you into something greater maybe Shador doesn't become all that he's supposed to be if he gets that first second round third round pick or that you know excuse me the if he becomes a first round pick or goes in that first round there's some things that I think Shadour is gaining from this moment that you can only gain from going through it is it fair no I don't seem fair is it right no I don't seem right but sometimes guys looking at that situation different and I don't know why he's going through this or why this is happening but man Shadour Sanders response not just when he has a camera in his face But on the field, at practice, man, it's a powerful, powerful thing.

12:20And every athlete, I don't care what age you are, should take notes from Shador Sanders on how you respond to the things that come your way. You're preaching to the choir. Same thing happened to me in the 88 Olympics. Same exact thing. I couldn't respond how I wanted to respond. I had to respond the way I would want a person to represent my country or respect my country in my response. This kid was raised by a Hall of Famer. He's responding like he was raised by a Hall of Famer. He's having Hall of Fame responses as a rookie. You understand me? You understand me? You understand me? So it's like it does not surprise me because the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

12:59It's just a matter now how high the apple is going to rise because it's going to rise. Whether it be here or somewhere else, it's going to rise. You understand me? They can't hold it down because when God put his hands on it, ain't nobody going to be able to do the stopping. it. And then they know how to be able to stop this either. So it's just the facts. Like I say, they try to ignore it all. Like you said, not even put me on the list. I'm too big for that list. Why would you put me on the list? Right. I can dig it. I can dig it. Last thing I'm going to say on this point is you don't know what you have in you until the pressure comes.

13:34You may think you know. You may have shown a glimpse of what you think you know about what's on the inside. these intangibles. But when the pressure really hits, like the pressure really hit, that's when you see what you're really working with. You better believe it, man. You better believe it. How long I been saying that? About some of you old fighters that don't fight? How long I been saying that? Okay, now you're coming down to my street. Now you're talking my language, sir. That is really good. That's real talk right there. That's what I live by. Absolutely. I want to switch gears since this is the last show of the year.

14:07You know, most sites and YouTube and all this stuff. They want to get into the end of the year awards and it's always the prospect of the year, the best punch of the year, best knockout of the year. But we do things a little bit different on the Hall of Game and with all the smoke. So we're going to go a slightly different direction. We love fashion on this show. I thought you love fashion, but you told me, nah, that's my wife. You know what I'm saying? I put my joint stuff on, but I ain't really into it like that. But the truth of the matter is, is Roy, like the youngsters say, You put it on.

14:39You had it on throughout your whole career in the ring and outside the ring. I want to start one of the awards that I want to give is the best fit, the best outfit. They say if you look good, you feel good. That was true. If my sparring stuff is right, it's going to be a bad day for you. If my boxing boots is right, like when I came to Pensacola. Don't know why I still travel with my stuff, but I did. I didn't come in there to do no slap boxing with nobody or do no sparring with nobody. But I promise you, I changed clothes and we were getting ready to shoot our segment on the ranch. And I looked down at my shoes.

15:17I said, oh, we and I looked in the mirror and I had one of my old boxing boots. They were brand new. Not not not a mark on them. I said, hey, man, I hollered at one of the youngsters in the gym. I said, come on. Then I looked at Kevin Newman because, you know, Kevin Newman is younger than me. so you know how the youngsters do they respect you but but they but they want to see about it I said come on get in the ring that wasn't because I felt good physically that day that was because I had on the right shoes so I want to talk about the best fit of 2025 Stephen Fulton came in with what the denim shorts with the Timberland boots that was crazy crazy creativity him and the shoe surgeon they cook something up crazy but I think I'm gonna go a different direction I I give Fulton credit and many will say he's the number one fit of the year because of the creativity and just the way you know the blue denim jeans with with with the wheat Tims but man I'm gonna give it to Terrence Crawford with his fight with Canelo Alvarez and I'm gonna tell you why when I look at a fit it's not just oh that's a good fit or that's good creativity I'm looking at your colorway i'm looking at the meaning behind your outfit are you trying to send another message and i love terrence crawford's outfit because most of the time when an african american fighter fights a hispanic fighter they'll do the mexican colors like floyd we've seen javante do it we've seen floyd do it we've seen other people do it terrence did it a little bit different his inspiration was the movie desperado so he had on black red and green love the colorway but the way the way they did it in the collab with off white i'm not a big everlast boxing boot guy a little bit bulky for me but that's who terrence is with man and the way everlast collabed with off white with the colorway and the entrance with the desperado theme song brother, I got to give this award to Terrence Crawford for 2025.

17:17I can't get that award to Terrence Crawford. I got to get it to Fulton because Fulton had the outfit of the century. Fulton came in with the outfit that took it back. It's going to be hard to beat Fulton's outfit for a long time because of the creativity, the fact that it can go to the streets. You can take that same outfit and go put it on the street and be dope with it. You heard me? So he took the streets and brought the streets to our arena, which is what I think we all should always try to do. Make that connection. He made that connection that people can remember from now on. You know what I mean?

17:53They'll never forget that. Right. A lot of people ain't gonna remember that Desperado Cullen movie and all the stuff you just said, but that's what he did. That's gonna be remembered from now on. Now, now to go a step further because I know we're going there too, I think, but for the ring walk, Terrence Crawford number one for sure. Because the way he did that with that movie, what that movie stood for, and the things he did in that, that was dope. That's one of the dopest ring walks of all times to me. You understand me? So his ring walk, yes, it's impeccable. Not to be touched with this year.

18:28You understand me? But the outfit, I got to give it a default. Got to give it a default. He probably the pick for the number one outfit because of creativity and because it's more memorable, right? but I think a little bit different man you know I appreciate that you know but I also got to ask myself would I wear that that that's that's also what gets me excited them could the colorway that Terrence Crawford had for Canelo and with the ring walk and everything else in the off-white because I'm a big off-white fan too right right man I got to give it to Terrence Crawford on that one but what about the biggest upset of the year there were some upsets throughout the year and And some would say Roley Romero, Ryan Garcia, Terrence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez.

19:13And I see a lot of people switching up on this Crawford-Canelo stuff. I see a lot of, oh, we knew he was going to win. How about that Terrence Crawford? Come on now. I saw a lot of people, even Crawford fans, online getting at me like, man, why you promoting this fight like that? You know this weight situation ain't right. They got weight classes for a reason. You know Terrence is just trying to get a good payday on the way out the game. What? But I'm a once again give the award to Terrence Crawford. This is the man who had a career starting at one thirty, one thirty five, one forty and many years at one forty seven.

19:53He just had one little one little fight, just one little fight at one fifty fifty four against Majumov. And many said he didn't look good and Majumov looked stronger. Got to realize something that styles make fights. It ain't just wait for weight. is styles. Your style is tricky. You may make me look like I'm not as good as I am because you fought a good fight and you had a good game plan. I think that's what the Majumov situation was, but what it did was, that may have been a blessing for Terrence Crawford because I didn't hear Canelo Alvarez saying he would be willing to accept that fight until after that fight.

20:26Right after the fight, he said no, but some time passed, the money got right, the situation aligned, Canelo Alvarez accepted it. I think that's the biggest upset for me because as a life as a lifer in this game if i'm not on the edge of my seat like this trying to see okay what's gonna happen right now like i know what i think is gonna happen what's but what's actually gonna happen this not really a threat it's not really a big fight in a fight where terrence crawford could have got hurt in that fight he had the 54 fight and then he leap frogs to 168 ain't no feel-out period at really at 54 but at 160 and spent no time at 168 to me given the magnitude of the event given who he did it against i know people say canelo's oh canelo's who he's been for many years fighting the same way same skill set same power all the stuff that made him great was in the ring when he fought terrence crawford that fight for me is the biggest upset given the stakes, who was involved, it was on Netflix, the money, the legacy implications, and the fact that Terrence Crawford jumped two, maybe three weight classes to get it done.

21:37And he demanded the fight. Talk to me. Yeah. That was not my upset of the year because that was kind of highly expected. I know we on this show. I know we on this. I'm just keeping it real. I'm just keeping it real with you. That was expected. I never, if you know Terrence Crawford, by me, if you know Terrence Crawford, Terrence Crawford ain't trying to lose to nobody. We know that, but I'm saying the masses. Yeah, I understand. But what I'm saying, if you know Terrence Crawford, you've seen what Terrence Crawford has done, Terrence Crawford ain't going to lose to nobody. Terrence Crawford ain't going to go in and give nobody nothing.

22:03Canelo, to me, underestimated Terrence Crawford because Terrence came in, Terrence had been 185 for quite some time now, was what people didn't realize. You understand what I've seen in that? You got to remember, this is a guy that went from 154 to heavyweight. I know what I'm looking at. When I seen how big Terrence Crawford was, I said, that's a wrap. If Canelo can't hit him and drop him with the furry punch, it's over with because Bud ain't going to have to lose in nothing. If he's going to lose, then he ain't going to do it. You understand me? So that's not the upset of the year to me. The upset of the year to me was I never thought this guy would almost beat Caleb Plant.

22:38Never thought in 100 years this guy had a chance against Caleb Plant. Never. Never thought he'd beat Caleb Plant. Now, Rolly, I told the guys, I can't rock. I said, listen, if Rolly hits Garcia, you're going to see a different fight take place. Man, it ain't going to happen. I said, Roley is a watered-down version of Prince Nassim Hamid. Yeah, but that's a lot of water. But he can punch, though, bruh. He can punch. Y 'all ain't understanding. He can punch. I'm just keeping it real. But the guy from, I think, I kept saying, nah, that's a lot of water. I said, but listen, if he hit him, it's going to change the way things go.

23:14He hit him that second round. No, no. Explain that part to me. When a fighter gets hit with something and it changes the game plan and the course of the fight. Stay there for a second for me. What do you mean by that? a lot of guys that have been either knocked out or rocked before, when they get hit, it takes them back. You remember how your boy, your boy, Keith one time was talking about the towering Inferno. He was telling the truth about that. Warning, warning. Exactly. When they get hit, them alerts go to going off on them. You understand me? And unless you strong-minded, you can't ignore them alerts if you ain't strong-minded.

23:47Brian has had so many issues already with his life. You know he's not, he have many issues all the time. having those mental issues mean that if you get hit, them lights are going to go off in your head because you already have issues. You understand me? So I knew if Roley did hit him in them first two rounds, them lights were going to go off and it was going to change the process, change the whole thing with the fight. And that's exactly what happened. So that was not upset to me either. Now, the other fight was upset too, you talked about the boy from London, but I know neither one. I know Josh Taylor.

24:18Josh Taylor, yeah. But I don't know what Josh Taylor is going to show up for me either. So that was kind of, yeah, and I didn't know Azuman. So I heard Azuman was good. So I wasn't surprised by that either. But Caleb Plant situation, I was completely taken back by that. I never expected Caleb Plant to lose to that guy. So that was my upset at the year. I'm not judging at all. I'm just kind of giving you what mine was. I'm not saying for the whole public. Because the public see boxing different than I do, you know, so. It's subjective. Yeah, it's subjective. Yeah, I agree. People that knew boxing, like really knew boxing, I'm not even saying like pundits.

24:51I'm saying like people that lived it you knew that okay this isn't a given fight for anything can happen like Canelo can hit a gear and something can happen it's fighting, it's boxing but the other part you felt like but Crawford should get this done this Bud, Bud is not finna go if you ain't 100 % if you ain't 100 % know what you're doing you not finna beat Bud and Canelo has a few if you is 100 % You know what I'm saying? No, you're not. Yeah, yeah, but Canelo has a few flaws that people have not been exploiting. You understand me? And I knew Bud was going to exploit those flaws. And the thing that I kept telling people even before the fight was made, long before the fight was made, was that I can't bet against Terrence Crawford because I haven't seen the blueprint to beat him.

25:38I haven't seen anybody break him yet. I haven't seen him broken where you talked a good game, but then he turned you away, bro. Oh, man, you know, something happened in that fight. yeah you didn't give up but you stopped fighting you stopped trying to win i never saw that from him so nah i kept saying everybody respects canelo's fight game you would be a fool not to but he's got to show me and he wasn't able to show it on fight night we talked a little bit about ring walk you gave it to terrence crawler for his desperado theme ring walk and steven nelson who i've had as a sparring partner he he creates all the inspo so i love that his family attached to it and rascendo robles was was the one out there doing it he was doing all the stuff singing he that's his childhood friend like that's powerful right like to be able to give your people that you've come up with an opportunity in your biggest moment on the biggest stage i i love that kind of stuff so it take it take it's even deeper than just the inspo it's it's family My brother created this But then my other brother that I came up with Robles He used to be a boxer I heard he was a very good boxer Before he stopped He's up there singing with his band Doing his thing, getting that exposure And Terrence Crawford sealed the show with the performance So we gotta get Terrence Crawford getting a lot of awards this year Official awards Unofficial awards That's what happens when you step up Like you're supposed to And you call for the biggest fights and you perform like you're supposed to.

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