In short
The Beat episode argues that the GOP’s midterm push is collapsing under record-high gas prices, escalating U.S.-Canada tariffs, and Donald Trump’s self-centered messaging and disputed 9/11 claims. It highlights Trumpapalooza in Dallas/Tarrant County struggling to sell tickets, with Republicans allegedly trying to “kiss the ring” and donors expecting preferential treatment.
Key claims
Trump is out of touch with affordability pressures; his 9/11 story is evolving/unverified; Republicans can’t successfully distance from him; and the party may rely on negative ads and “MAGA vs. socialism” contrasts.
Notable examples
AI/viral Trump assault images; horse-riding video criticism; Trump’s Arlington National Cemetery arch proposal; Smithsonian “purging” history; and Supreme Court fights over mail-in ballots.
Guests
David Litt (former Obama speechwriter; author of “Word Salad”); Joan Walsh (The Nation national affairs correspondent). Later segments add Janae Nelson (NAACP LDF voting-rights counsel) and Sky Perryman (Democracy Forward CEO; author “Ordinary People, Extraordinary Times”), plus Manny Rutanel (Colorado 8th District Democratic candidate; former state representative).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOImpact of Trump on GOP and Gas Prices
0:04 to 0:29
Discussion on Trump's challenges, gas prices, and GOP's political landscape.
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Impact of Trump on GOP and Gas Prices
1:09 to 2:54
Discussion on Trump's challenges, gas prices, and GOP's political landscape.
“Trump's trade war with Canada is escalating.”
Trump's 9/11 Comments and Their Implications
2:54 to 4:08
Analysis of Trump's statements about his 9/11 experience and their credibility.
“stay away, according to the Daily Beast.”
Political Commentary on Trump's Behavior
4:08 to 5:27
Guests discuss the implications of Trump's self-centered narratives on the GOP.
“I took a lot of my I was building a big building in New York and I took the whole crew down there right after this happened.”
Voter Dynamics and Midterm Elections
5:27 to 8:00
Exploration of voter sentiment towards Trump and the Republican Party.
“It's so good to have both of you here at the table with me this evening.”
Constituencies Affected by Current Policies
8:00 to 14:20
Discussion on various groups affected by Trump's policies and upcoming elections.
“Our story is not going to be the central story.”
Trump's Upcoming Event in Texas
15:02 to 22:24
Discussion on Trump's attendance and the political landscape in Texas.
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The Mail-in Voting Controversy
22:24 to 28:00
Exploration of the ongoing fight over mail-in ballots and voting rights.
“Turning now to the latest in the fight over mail-in ballots for this year's midterms.”
Election Preparation and Voter Rights
28:00 to 29:50
Learn about the critical preparations for the upcoming election and the importance of voter rights.
“That's really what everyone is obligated to do in this moment, because if you don't vote now, you may not have a right to vote to utilize later.”
Election Preparation and Voter Rights
30:25 to 30:37
Learn about the critical preparations for the upcoming election and the importance of voter rights.
“54 % of participants have lowered their blood pressure, meaning fewer heart attacks and more Sundays at the park.”
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Criticism of Trump's Priorities and the Arch Proposal
31:40 to 39:20
Explore the concerns surrounding Trump's proposed arch at Arlington and its implications.
“Critics of the president have long questioned his priorities, his level of interest in the plight of the average American voter.”
Manny Rutanel's Fight for Affordability
39:20 to 42:05
Hear from Manny Rutanel on his background and the personal impact of affordability issues.
“And still ahead, a special guest who is trying to break GOP control of the House and end Mike Johnson's tenure as speaker.”
Manny Routanel Discusses Economic Challenges
42:05 to 45:56
Manny Routanel shares personal experiences with economic struggles and discusses the impact of current policies on working families.
“And those are the same programs that Donald Trump and Gabe Evans are destroying to give tax breaks to their billionaire donors.”
Transcript
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1:16Gas prices hitting record highs, while Trump's approval hits record lows. And now the big Trumpapalooza convention is looking more and more like a potential flop. Right now, 49 % of Americans identify as Democrats compared to 39 % Republican. That's the biggest edge for Democrats since 2008. That is, of course, the year Barack Obama was elected. Canada just levied tariffs on$20 billion worth of U.S. products in the tit-for-tat trade war with the U.S. And meanwhile, gas prices hitting a record high of over$4 over Labor Day weekend. And according to AAA, quote, gasoline has never been above four dollars on Labor Day.
1:58Never. Campaigns are now in full swing heading into the midterms, but Trump and his allies, they seem out of touch with the political reality. He's posting AI pictures of himself physically assaulting the prime minister of Canada, which Trump fan accounts then use to AI animate. while his daughter, Ivanka, one-time senior White House advisor, well, she's raising eyebrows with this bizarre horse-riding video, critics calling it a tone-deaf, let-them-eat-cake kind of moment while Americans are struggling to put food on the table in this economy right now. And then again, this Trumpapalooza, or the GOP's midterm convention that seems to be all about Trump.
2:38Their festivities are kicking off tomorrow in Dallas, a major hub for the GOP. but one day out and things are looking a little bit dicey. The Republican Party is scrambling to give away free tickets in a frantic bid to pack the arena as countless GOP lawmakers and candidates stay away, according to the Daily Beast. For some reason, despite his historic unpopularity, the president wants to make these final weeks before the midterms all about him. Even some Republicans think this is a major risk. The White House is pushing a big bet. It's like we're at the tables. They're pushing all the chips on, saying we if we make this about Donald Trump and if we make it about Donald Trump's record and put him at the center of this, then we've got a shot to pull this thing off.
3:23I'm a little bit nervous about it because, look, we're in the final stages of campaign. I'd be more comfortable if this had been held in June or July and set a thematic that could be pursued for four months or five months rather than for 56 days. And today, while he was honoring emergency personnel involved in 9-11, Trump added to his constantly evolving story about his own experience on that day. The Times reports, quote, he said that he was watching television the morning of the attacks and that he later took a construction crew with him to the site, a claim that has been disputed by a biographer and former police officials.
4:00Mr. Trump said that during his trip to the site, two large firefighters picked him up and took him to safety when he observed an unstable building. And here he was today. I want to just thank my people. I took a lot of my I was building a big building in New York and I took the whole crew down there right after this happened. And they were they had no hesitation. Everybody went down with me. We went down as a big group of people. wasn't too much we could do. I'll be honest. It was raw. Nobody's seen anything like it ever. We had other buildings. The United States Steel Building was creaking, really creaking.
4:39Now, we thought it was going to fall down. The truth is it creaked a lot. It creaked. There's still creaks, but it never came down. And I'll never forget two firemen. We thought it was coming down on top of us and two firemen, big, strong guys. And I'm not the smallest guy in the world. They grabbed me under the arms and said, got to get out of here. And they literally lifted me up. This is not easy to do. I'm big. They lifted me up and they started running with me. I said, fellas, I can run myself. But they were amazing. But they thought it was coming down. It didn't come down. And joining me now is David Litt, former Obama speechwriter and author of the word salad on Substack, and Joan Walsh, national affairs correspondent with The Nation magazine.
5:27It's so good to have both of you here at the table with me this evening. Thanks. Thanks. So I want to start with where I just landed there, with the president telling a story about himself on a solemn occasion that can best be described, I guess, as evolving, perhaps unconfirmed. David, what's going on with him? What's going on with Donald Trump? I like that you start with the easy to answer questions. That's what I think. That's right. I think that there's two possibilities. One is that he knows that what he's saying is to be very kind about it, an exaggeration, maybe stretching the truth about where he was on 9-11 or what he did around 9-11.
6:09The other is that he doesn't know. And I think part of this is we all lived through four years and in retrospect warranted real questions about Joe Biden's cognitive abilities. Right. If Joe Biden had not been able to keep his 9-11 whereabouts or events story straight, that would have been a news story, a national news story for a very long time. And this sense when you when you watch that clip of Trump that you just played, it does not look like somebody who is in full command of his faculties, even for Donald Trump, even by Donald Trump standards. And that might be even more dangerous than the possibility that this is just the lying narcissist we've all come to expect.
6:45Joan, do you see his willingness to make a moment like this sort of about himself and and maybe a less than grounded and truthful account of his role in that day as connected to sort of the larger political problem around him right now? I mean, Trumpapalooza making the midterms all about himself when voters could not be more clear, actually, that there is they're over him. Yeah. Yeah. Is that how you see it? That's how I see it. I think that's a really, it's a great analogy because he's putting himself in the center of this national tragedy. It's 25 years ago, Antonia. We all, if we're old enough, we remember where we were.
7:23And he doesn't belong there. We've never heard it before. You know, he's had a lot of years and a lot of time in the spotlight to tell that story. He did say one true thing, though. He's a big guy. He'd be hard to carry. So let's give him truth for occasional honesty. But right. It's just like the Republicans don't want him in the middle of their midterms right now. They don't want him to come. And, you know, I think you probably know more about this than I do, David. But, you know, I know that President Obama and Vice President Biden, I know going back to Bill Clinton, you know, when presidents knew they were facing one of those midterms, they were very respectful of people.
8:00not wanting them to come. I don't need you here. Our story is not going to be the central story. It's also too late for that now. The notion that this would be, was it Karl Rove or somebody who said, oh, this could be a narrative, a through-line narrative if we started earlier. No, it would never be. There hasn't been a through-line narrative. He's just incapable of doing that. The only through-line is that he's the center of the story, and he will not let these Republicans who need to run away from him. Yeah. I mean, on the point of a through line, in fact, just a matter of weeks ago, my colleagues, Jake Traylor, others around the White House beat, you know, they were speaking to sources who were telling them that actually for the first time, basically, Trump was ready to let Republicans run without him, not make everything about him because they recognize the headwinds.
8:51So how did things change so drastically? Well, I feel like Trump loves to tell the, what is it, the scorpion story, right? Or the snake story. I don't know. It's one of the many stories. But it's the one that the moral of the story is people are who they are. You know who people are and they're not going to change. And I think even if, as you pointed out, if Donald Trump looked at the example of past presidents and said, maybe it is smartest for me to sit this one out and not make this all about me, he's Donald Trump. He's not going to do that. I mean, this is an old dog. He is not going to learn new tricks.
9:22And I think that what we're seeing also is there's this question of if Trump, if Trump's party, if the Republican Party could win by distancing themselves from Donald Trump, would Donald Trump consider that a win? I think he would consider that a loss. No, if people if people show up the night of the election and they actually Republicans, they won by distancing themselves, that he will be very sad. I think it's too late to do that, though. You know, I really think I think that they've placated him too long. If he were any of our parents, we would have stepped in a long time ago and taken care of them.
9:57Republican legislators should have done the same. Take care of him. Take care of us. They haven't. And it's going to be very hard in the next two months to really change the narrative. Is there I guess is it possible, though, Joan, that they're right to some extent that their best shot may be to run around whatever is left of his cult of personality and his appeal to the base, because people are kind of struggling right now, given everything that they are feeling in their own pocketbooks at their kitchen tables, to identify what the actual governing agenda is. Like, I guess, is it their best shot?
10:31Because this is what they got. I don't think so. They haven't done well with what they've got, Antonia, and I think a lot of people know that. I mean, he's losing support with his base. He's also losing the newer groups that he did manage to pull over in 2024, like Latinos, like Black men. People who were curious in 2024, they're no longer curious. They've seen it all. And so I think, you know, it's too late to distance themselves, but wrapping themselves in him is not going to work either. People are very, very alienated right now. You mentioned Latinos and Black men. There's also important constituencies like farmers who have been begging for different policy.
11:14I want you to take a listen to Brian Kilmeade on Fox. I mean, for Fox to be recognizing the problems and sort of openly talking about the problems facing this president. Take a look. And I'll add another thing is they're about to get hit with retaliatory strikes from us. So they have to brace for that. The one thing they did, like China, China retaliated against us immediately and we hit them. We went back and forth. We landed that plane. They never put our liquor back on their shelves. So they took it off. That hurt our guys. The one thing this does do is hurt farmers. They can't get fertilizer out of the straighter from O's.
11:47And now they're going to be paying more for fertilizer from Canada. So that's going to hurt. That's going to hurt in the election. Is there a constituency right now, a part of this base that can say, I am better off? Well, I think if you're a billionaire, a certain set of billionaires, if you're a member of Donald Trump's family, even his extended family, you're probably a lot better off. If you're Donald Trump himself, he's made$2 billion since taking office for himself personally. So he is much better off than he was two years ago. The rest of us, not so much. And I think this gets back to an important point that Joan made, particularly because this is a midterm election.
12:25So you need those sporadic voters to get out there. And so the voters who are hardcore MAGA, and there are millions and millions of them, but they're going to vote. The voters who are going to decide whether this election is sort of a blue ripple or a blue wave, those are the voters who are skeptical about Trump. They're also skeptical about voting in general. And so saying, I'm Donald Trump, remember how much you love me, is particularly unlikely to work with that specific group. Is there a state that you're watching really closely for this dynamic? Oh, you know, I mean, I personally, I've interviewed both John Ossoff in Georgia and James Tallarico in Texas.
13:02I think they're both great people. I'm a Democrat, you know, full disclosure. They also really lucked out in the people who they're running against. They're running against the worst possible people, Ken Paxton, indictments, ugly divorce, you know, Mike Collins, white supremacists, and somebody, you know, a staffer puts his girlfriend on the payroll. So, I mean, I'm looking at those two. I think that Georgia, he would have won anyway, I shouldn't say that too quickly, but... Ossoff would have won, you mean? Ossoff would have won anyway. But Tallarico, I think he's a very excellent politician, but he also really lucked out in his choice of Paxton.
13:42And, you know, Donald Trump helped make that choice. Well, you're both sticking around with me because I want to dig in a bit more into Texas, in part because tomorrow is the beginning of Trumpapalooza. So, David, Joan, you're sticking around with me. We're going to be right back after this break in just 90 seconds. Tires matter. They're the only part of your vehicle that touches the road. Tread confidently with new tires from Tire Rack. Whether you're looking for expert recommendations or know exactly what you want, Tire Rack makes it easy. Fast, free shipping, free road hazard protection, and convenient installation options.
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15:38All right, we are back with David Litt and Joan Walsh. And we were just about to start talking about Texas. Trumpapalooza begins in Dallas and Tarrant County tomorrow. That is, I mean, really a GOP hub stronghold. A lot of Republican and conservative organizing happening down there. I've spent years reporting in that part of the country. A lot of Trump superfans based there and their community groups based there out of Texas. So why do you think he's having trouble selling tickets right now? I'm surprised. I mean, I'll be honest. I'm a little bit surprised. I mean, people are busy, but still, it should be, you know, it's a place that he should have had an easier time.
16:19So, you know, we're all busy. It's back to school week, whatever. And also, you know, not to have the people who whip voters, whip people who sit in seats, you know, all of that. There's just something, there's so much missing from this White House. I mean, I think Democrats have done a good job in certain states, but they've also gotten such an assist from this White House, which, you know, just misses its own opportunities and its own free throws and everything, you know, every day. And so this is going to be interesting. Also, choose to do it in Texas where people, the people, the voters are struggling, but also the candidates are struggling.
16:56I mean, nobody needs this, but Donald Trump does. What are your predictions for what will come out of this? Because it's so clear that Trump is going to make sure that he's in the limelight the entire time. That's going to create difficulties for Ken Paxton, who we were just talking about a moment ago. The AP reporting that Republicans familiar with the process around this said the president was involved in the events every detail. His control over the program was such, in fact, that anyone pressing for information in recent weeks was told it wasn't yet known because Trump was still making choices.
17:26So, you know, we have him doing all the construction projects in D.C. and then, I guess, planning this big convention in the middle of a war and so many other things going on. David, what are your predictions for what kind of impact it'll all make? Well, I want to start with something you just said, actually. I mean, this is we just can't lose sight of this. Right. We're in the middle of a war. We're in the middle of not an economic crisis, but an affordability crisis. And you have a president who seems to really be trying to become a wedding planner when he grows up. Like he's doing like decor and event planning and he's not focused on the things that are his job.
17:59Right. He wanted this job. So I think that sense that that the president of the United States is focused on his own petty details and not on your life. That's what's going to come through loud and clear. But the one thing that I will say about an event like this, the same as the UFC event at the White House, the Formula One, the White House Correspondents Dinner parties this year, and then the rescheduled White House Correspondents Dinner parties this year for Trump's Republican Party. These are also all pay to play events. And that's part of the function on paper. This is about a convention. It's about the midterms.
18:30But it's also about bringing your donors together, collecting a check. they kiss the ring, they reiterate their loyalty. And then when the time is right, odds are very good that they just happen to get preferential treatment from the government. And I think that's a terrifying thing that we're in that place in the United States of America. But I do think that's part of what has happened. You're right that there's such a pattern there that it's something we're going to have to keep an eye on beyond just the rhetoric and the remarks that come from the event itself. You've spent time, you mentioned speaking to Tallarico.
18:58And a lot of eyes are on this race. I mean, Texans, I was just there the other week. When you talk to Democrats in Texas, I think they're very nervous about feeling too confident because, you know, they've thought they were on the edge so many times before. At the same time, things really do feel different. I drove 1 ,100 miles the other week along the southwest border, basically. So in the Big Bend sector where Texans are outraged about what's happened in Big Bend National Park because the president has said they're not building a wall there, but they have been constructing these roads. And there's all this physical activity that's disturbing the park that is so beloved by Texans of all backgrounds there.
19:37There are ranchers getting eminent domain notices and being told their land may have to be converted in part to a border wall. I mean, and these are people who have often supported this president. And so there is this feeling that, oh, things could actually be different now. Yeah, I think that he is messing with parts of his base that should be there for him. And that is, you know, a reason to have it in Texas, but a reason maybe I mean, they'll fill the seats. They always do. But, you know, a reason it may be a tough ask and a reason that people are wary of it, because there are people who should be voting for him based on past behavior.
20:13who may not, or not for him, but may stay home, more likely stay home than go for a Democrat, maybe go for a Democrat. So he's really made, you know, dogs dinner of this, of Texas in particular. And when you describe the border area and when you describe what's happening in Big Bend or what could be happening in Big Bend, I mean, it's just, it's heartbreaking as an American. I'm not a You know, I think people's hearts are breaking and he's he's done that. David, is there a single thing in these final weeks? I mean, like 56 days away now, that's almost no time that this party, the Republicans, could do to turn all of this around?
20:58I think that for a very long time, I mean, predating Donald Trump, really, it's the Mitch McConnell playbook of saying you may not like me, but the other guy is worse. And I think you're going to see a lot of that. First of all, there is so much money flowing through not just the Republican Party and the candidates, but all of these super PACs. So you're going to see a lot of ads on the air. And money does not win elections, but it certainly influences elections. You're going to see a wild imbalance of spending. And I think a lot of that spending is going to be harshly negative. And I do think, if we're being honest, it's going to tie Democrats to their most extreme candidates and the candidates who are the most avowedly socialist.
21:37because I think that if you look at, I mean, I looked at one poll recently, MAGA, I believe, had a minus 24 approval rating. The Democratic Socialists of America had minus 23. So it's a way of saying, listen, you may not love us, but you sure don't love them either. And I think you will see some of that. And it could matter in some marginal races. All right. David Litt, Joan Walsh, thank you both so, so much. Great to speak with you. Thank you. All right. Coming up, Trump's efforts to whitewash and sanitize American history going to incredible lengths. But first, the clash over mail-in voting.
22:08The administration going to the Supreme Court with less than two months until Election Day. That's next.
22:24Turning now to the latest in the fight over mail-in ballots for this year's midterms. Voters are already heading to the polls in some states or getting ready to send their ballots. and mail ballots are being sent out this month. Trump's fight to restrict mail-in voting is heading to the Supreme Court as time runs out to change the system in time for November's elections. The New York Times reporting that Trump's war on mail-in ballots has voters baffled. That may be the point, as state officials are at once reassuring voters that their ballots are safe and encouraging them to use drop boxes or vote in person.
22:58MS Now spoke to voters in North Carolina where the confusion is palpable.
23:06We would vote by mail back years ago in Georgia, but at this point, with what they're trying to do, I wouldn't chance it myself. I'm going to go vote early. They were afraid of losing this election. They know how unpopular Trump's policies are, and they are trying to keep us from going out to vote. That's part of the Republican plan, is to confusion. They could try to confuse everybody. There's no illegal ballots. I'm just I'm fed up with it. And just moments ago, a new defeat in court for Republican hopes of hanging on to the House. Just moments ago, Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh rejecting Missouri's request to approve a new GOP friendly congressional map for midterms.
23:52Another last ditch attempt by Republicans to shape the midterms thwarted by the courts just weeks away from Election Day. And joining me now is Janae Nelson, president and director counsel of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund and a renowned voting rights scholar. She was one of the lead counsels in a successful federal challenge to Texas's voter ID law in 2018. It's so good to have you here. It's great to be here, Antonia. Thank you. So I guess I want to begin with what you believe the administration is trying to do here with this battle. It's, of course, receiving immense pushback. Voters are, you know, they're calling it as they see it there in North Carolina.
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24:33But what is the grander project here? The grander project is to subvert the electoral process entirely, to make us believe that we have free and fair elections as they seek to undermine them. Now, what's important is that all voters stay focused. We still have a very robust right to vote. And even though there are all manner of efforts to try to undermine it, if we turn out in overwhelming numbers, if we ensure that we have our registration in place and intact and that it's current and we haven't been removed from the rolls, if we are vigilant and diligent, we can still vote in an election that will reflect our voices and our wishes.
25:13But we're going to have to be extremely dogged about having a plan and being prepared to vote. And then organizations like LDF are going to have to continue to litigate fiercely in these courts, as we are doing now to protect mail-in ballots. We have a brief due tomorrow in the Supreme Court. We have defended mail-in balloting three times in the past six weeks when the Trump administration went to the court, the Supreme Court, to try to rig this election. But we're not going to have that. we are going to push back in the courts and ensure that all voters have an equal voice in this country. Can I ask you, if a family member living in one of the states that we know the Trump administration has their eyes on, if they were to call you and say, I typically vote by mail, but is it honestly safe for me to do so right now?
26:00Would you tell them that it is? I would say that if that's the only means available to them, absolutely vote by mail. Right now, it is perfectly lawful. We were able to secure an injunction to stop the USPS, stop the Trump administration from pursuing this unlawful enforcement of an executive order that would limit mail-in balloting. So right now, every rule is still in place. Nothing has changed. And it is safe to vote by mail. However, if you can vote early and in person, that is the safest and surest way to cast a ballot. And it's worth it to make every effort to do that. It was interesting listening to my colleague there in North Carolina talk to those voters, hearing one of them say, you know, that it feels like the people are asking themselves, should they chance it right now?
26:47You know, as someone who's covered campaigns and talked to voters, including in states like North Carolina, over the course of the last 10 years, I know that sometimes people are, they lose motivation over something as simple as it's raining outside. Or like, you know, I got a call from my boss and now I have something else I need to do. So I forgot to go vote. So to hear that, oh, there are all these legal challenges, I'm not sure that this is safe to do. The USPS is now involved in elections in an unprecedented way, potentially. Add to that that we have Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen at DHS. And we have this potential for there to be federal agents out as people try to cast their votes.
27:26I mean, is it not just enough, actually, for the confusion, for the discomfort to be out there? Will they still end up actually getting to their goal? I hope not I think the message to take from all of these Attacks on the right to vote is how Very valuable the vote Still is for every American Who can Who has the ability to Get to a polling site or to Cast a mail-in ballot it's clear That these efforts would not Be so robust if People didn't fear the power Of our vote so I say don't be discouraged Stay tuned look at And trusted sites like ldf.vote, where we have nonpartisan voting information, where voters can find out how they can get more involved in elections, where they can get up-to-the-minute information that is true, that is careful and curated.
28:20That's really what everyone is obligated to do in this moment, because if you don't vote now, you may not have a right to vote to utilize later. This is a make-it-or-break-it election, and we can't be discouraged by the chaos. We have to stay focused and see right through it and know that there are organizations like LDF here to protect the right to vote. What's the most serious, concerning scenario that you are preparing for for Election Day? We're preparing for a lot. I mean, you mentioned Mark Wayne Mullins' horrific comments and threatening the right to vote. We're concerned about DHS at polls.
28:56We're concerned about ICE at polls. And we're, trust me, going to push back and ensure that that sort of threatened intimidation cannot happen and will not happen. But we are asking everyone to make a plan to vote. And we're also asking people to be poll monitors. We have a broad election protection effort where people can come and make sure that their fellow citizens are able to vote safely and securely just by being present, just by making sure that there are no shenanigans at the polls. So everybody's got a job to do this upcoming election. We are eight weeks from the last day that you can vote in person, and that is November 3rd.
29:36So we need to get ready and get going. Some places will be starting early voting as early as next week. So the time is now. They heard it here. Janae Nelson, thank you so, so much for the work that you do. Thank you. And still ahead, the midterm issue that's front and center and can likely decide which party controls Congress. A special guest on that by the end of the hour. But first, critics slamming Donald Trump's fitness for office as he obsesses over vanity projects and AI memes over real American priorities.
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31:46Critics of the president have long questioned his priorities, his level of interest in the plight of the average American voter. But Trump's obsession with construction projects across D.C. amid an intractable and costly war with Iran, well, it's taking things to a new level. Take Trump's planned arch, which would tower over Arlington National Cemetery, a solemn and sacred memorial to the nation's fallen soldiers. The outrage and resistance is intensifying, most notably from veterans themselves. What the Trump administration proposes is to plant a 250 foot tall arch right here to break the sight line between the Lincoln Memorial and the cemetery, which is entirely inappropriate and borders on sacrilege to the men and women buried behind me.
32:34There will be an observation deck. We don't need tourists overlooking funerals. If Trump thinks that we'll be quiet about this proposed arch, he's wrong. A different group of veterans is suing Trump to stop construction before it starts. This is an emotional issue for military families. But to Trump, it seems to be just another real estate project, another piece of his own legacy. You see him holding a model of the arch there like it's some kind of special toy. And this isn't even the only Trump scandal brewing on the grounds of Arlington National Cemetery right now. The Washington Post reports that the administration has stripped any mention of slavery or the Confederacy from a marker where a Confederate statue used to sit at the cemetery.
33:20Again, to the point of the president's priorities, we're left to wonder how and why this administration even has the time to delete history or sanitize the reputations of traitorous Confederates when we are in the middle of an active and uncertain war right now. It comes as Trump spent the holiday weekend posting dozens of memes, rambling messages and AI generated images, including an image that shows North America and Greenland wrapped in a U.S. flag. Then throwing out the suggestion he's going to rename the state of New Mexico. And with the president's constant stream of, frankly, bizarre posts comes new calls for invoking the 25th Amendment, a move that would remove Trump, of course, from office amid concerns about Trump's age and, quote, mental acuity.
34:11Joining me now is Sky Perryman, president and CEO of Democracy Forward and author of the new book, Ordinary People, Extraordinary Times, How to Reclaim Your Power, Fight for Freedom and Reimagine Democracy. Skye, let's start there. What is the path for Americans who want to reclaim their freedom, re-imagine democracy and push back against what they're seeing? Well, I'm so glad you started out with all these examples of the outrage minute by minute that's coming out of the White House, because this is something by design. This is an administration that doesn't want people to feel like they have power.
34:49They certainly don't want to be held accountable. And so they do all of these things to try to distract people from what we really need to be focused on, which is demanding a government that serves and works for all of us. And so I wrote this book, Ordinary People, Extraordinary Times. We have seen such just in the last two weeks. We have seen such an amazing response. It's already been on the USA Today and New York Times bestsellers list because people in this country are ready. They want to know what to do and how to plug in. And so the book contains really practical steps that people can take.
35:21But the first step is to actually shift our mindset and to remember that people in this country have power and we need to be using that power and building community with each other. This is an administration that just wants to distract and not be held accountable. And so we've got to be the ones that push back against this outrage moment by moment. I want your reaction, too, to what we just heard from the video I played moments ago, the Vote Vets group. You hear the man there say that this borders this act with the arch and what it means for the cemetery, that it borders on sacrilege. Do you agree with that?
35:57Absolutely. And it's so consistent with the way in which this administration has operated with respect to a range of national treasures, with respect to a range of fallen national heroes. We had, you know, reports coming out that the administration wanted to rename the Doris Miller aircraft carrier for the president, which is, you know, he was a fallen, amazing hero from my hometown of Waco, Texas. So this is just more of the same. And it's not surprising, actually, to see veterans pushing back. And it's really important that those that are listening at home pay attention to the many veterans' voices that have been out almost from the beginning.
36:32I mean, we filed a lawsuit on Inauguration Day on behalf of a range of plaintiffs, including veterans challenging. Remember Elon Musk's doge that went and ran roughshod over people's rights. So veterans have been making their voices heard for a very long time. This is an administration that has never prioritized actual veterans benefits. There's a lot of corruption they've sought to to enhance. They've sought to sort of put in the VA and with veterans benefits. And then now, of course, you see this, you know, this really, really harmful attempt to undermine people who gave the ultimate sacrifice.
37:06I want to ask you, too, in terms of sort of this larger project, as Trump seems so invested in his personal story and an image that he wants to project in the years to come, and the sort of national story, too, interfering with the way in which we tell the story of who we are as a nation, we learned that the head of the Smithsonian Institution, Lonnie G. Bunch, that he's resigned. The Washington Post reports that his resignation, quote, comes at one of the most politically fraught moments in the Smithsonian's 180-year history, as, quote, Trump has sought to purge what he calls improper ideology from its museums, while his administration has threatened the institution's federal funding, tried to hire a museum, fire a museum director, and challenged its authority over personnel and exhibitions.
37:53What do you think Lonnie Bunch's exit represents? Look, I mean, for so many people, it's concerning. I know that he has had a really long tenure and has come out and said that the current pressures are not the reason for his departure. We have to take him at his word there. I know he has grandkids that he wants to see. But there's a symbolism with this that I think is right and really raises a lot of concerns for so many Americans. We hear from Americans across the country who are concerned about what this administration is doing in trying to erase history. Our team at Democracy Forward has had to go to court to block the president from trying to erase history out of national parks, as an example.
38:33This is American history, and it's all of our history. And the president doesn't seem to really love America. He doesn't love all of the history that it represents. He just wants to pick and choose little pieces of the history or misinformation about our history. And so I think that, you know, we continue to be concerned about what the administration is trying to do with the Smithsonian and with so many national treasures. That said, what we've seen is that people are pushing back. We are pushing back in the courts, but people are also really pushing back and using their voices. And that should give us hope that we are going to come through this chapter.
39:04And it will be another chapter in American history where people really had to fight for their freedom in new ways and that they did it. Sky Paramin, you wrote the book on it. Thank you so, so much again. For people at home, ordinary people, extraordinary times, how to reclaim your power, fight for freedom and reimagine democracy. And still ahead, a special guest who is trying to break GOP control of the House and end Mike Johnson's tenure as speaker. That's next.
39:42In this final sprint to the midterms, affordability is the top issue for many Americans, and brand new polling reveals growing pessimism about Donald Trump's economy. 66 % of Americans believe it's going in the wrong direction, and Trump's net approval on prices and the cost of living cratering at 17%, with voters sounding off on the economic squeeze. If you could pick one word to describe what it feels like to live under these economic conditions, what would that word be? Chaotic. We have to cut back on a lot of stuff. We don't eat out as much, cook mostly at home and stuff. I go without food often and I feed my kids.
40:24Yeah, I maybe eat maybe once a day and nine times out of 10, I eat what's left over from my kid. I don't know what the politicians are doing. I don't know what they say or what. I mean, they may be living high on the hog here, but us lower people here, we're struggling. And they don't care. He ran on Make America Great Again, but he's trying to make Donald Trump great again, I think. So affordability has been a winning message for Democrats and has been central to a key House race in Colorado where Democrat Manny Rutanel is locked in a competitive race against incumbent Republican Gabe Evans. It's a seat Democrats believe they can flip in November.
41:03House Speaker Mike Johnson admitting the outcome here could decide control of Congress. And joining me now is former state representative Manny Rutanel, the Democratic candidate for Congress in Colorado's 8th district. It's good to see you. So, you know, after listening to the voters that my colleague Alex Tabbit just spoke to there, I want to ask you a bit about your personal life experiences because your background is a bit different from the typical background of a member of Congress in this country. You've talked about the fact that you've worked for McDonald's. You had a single mom. You've sold plasma before when money got tight.
41:41Can you tell me a bit about how your personal experiences may have shaped your political philosophy? Well, Antonia, this is deeply personal for me. This fight for Congress and affordability and lowering costs and fighting for working people, it's not theoretical. It's personal because I'm the son of a single mom who came to America in search of that American dream, and we worked hard every single day, but we struggled. I remember being 10 years old the first time I was filling out food stamp and Medicaid forms. And those are the same programs that Donald Trump and Gabe Evans are destroying to give tax breaks to their billionaire donors.
42:16Those are the same programs that allowed me to live out that American dream alongside those McDonald's shifts and the fact that I sold my blood at a plasma center over 100 times. But folks are feeling the pinch everywhere they go, whether it's at the pump or at the grocery store. and I will fight back with everything I've got, not just to take back the seat and take back the House, but to fight for working families when I'm in Congress. Your district is a swing district. It went for Trump in 2016, Biden in 2020, Trump again in 2024, always by slim margins. So tell me about the conversations that you're having, how you reach those voters who may kind of switch teams, not be necessarily deeply embedded in either party.
42:58How do you talk to them and what are the issues that resonate right now? Yeah, as you've noted, Newsweek just ranked us the number one race out of 18 toss-up races across the country. This will decide whether we take back the House. It's why over 100 ,000 folks have gone to MannyForColorado.com and chipped in an average of 27 bucks for a grassroots campaign. And I've been going to these in-person town halls across the district, town halls that my congressman refuses to go to because he's scared of his own constituents. People tell me all the time, Manny, I feel like I've been lied to. Donald Trump and Dave Evans said they were going to lower gas prices.
43:30And instead, they've sent us into this forever war in Iran without any plans, putting American lives at risk and raising gas prices. They said they were going to cut health care costs. And instead, they have destroyed Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act. They said they were going to lower grocery prices. And instead, they've started these tariff wars that are corrupt and chaotic and raising grocery and housing prices along the way. We're focusing on the issues that folks care about. And we will be fighting for them, just like I have as a state legislator in Colorado. Can I ask you about the role that you think Latino voters are going to play in your race in this election right now?
44:04Because, you know, I think Democrats have gotten the Latino vote very wrong in the past. They've made certain assumptions about where their priorities would lie. I think many Democrats just thought that Trump's rhetoric would almost do their work for them, that they might be so repulsed by some of the things they heard the president say about Latinos. And then we actually watched him make major inroads. And data is now suggesting to us that he's losing that ground. But what's actually happening there? Do you think that they're being won over by Democrats like yourself? Or do you think they are just frustrated with Trump?
44:38Well, I think that Latino voters will decide this election in the 8th Congressional District. They make up 40 % of the population. It's the most Latino district in the state, one of the most Latino in the entire country. I'm fortunate to be a fluent Spanish speaker. I can speak directly to them about the issues that they care about most. And I hear them every single day that I'm knocking doors and at these town halls, that they want someone who will focus on making their lives a little bit easier. They're working hard every single day, but they can't get ahead. In the state legislature, I learned a very important lesson, and that is that poverty is a policy choice.
45:12And I learned it firsthand because I introduced the earned income tax credit expansion, which because of that bill, we cut childhood poverty by 40 % overnight so that working families can get a little bit of relief whenever they get that mechanic bill or they go on a grocery run so they don't have to choose between prescriptions and putting a roof over their child's head. That's the kind of economy that I want to be working for. That's the kind of economy that Latinos across this district are looking for. Manny Routanel, I know that if you win, there are going to be a lot of voters who want to see you recreate what you did at the state level in Congress.
45:44And that is that is not easy to do. All right, Democratic candidate for Congress in Colorado. Good to see you. Thank you so much, Manny Routanel. And Routanel's challenger, Congressman Gabe Evans. He's also welcome to join the beat at any time. We're going to be right back.
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September 8, 2026; With 56 days until the midterm elections, MS NOW’s Antonia Hylton reports on the latest developments and is joined by The Nation’s Joan Walsh and former Obama speechwriter David Litt. Plus, Hylton examines President Trump’s fight to restrict mail-in voting with Janai Nelson, president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund.
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