In short
The episode centers on two “historic firsts”: the imminent launch of NASA’s Artemis II, the first crewed mission around the Moon in over 50 years, and a political discussion about President Trump’s Iran war speech and related policy fights.
Guests and backgrounds
Josh Einiger (MSNBC reporter live at Kennedy Space Center). Danny Olivas (retired astronaut; 2 NASA missions, 5 spacewalks). Casey Dreyer (Chief of Space Policy, Planetary Society). Adam Frank (astrophysics professor, University of Rochester). House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (Democrat, New York; discusses Iran war and Supreme Court birthright citizenship case).
Key claims
Artemis II is a “proving mission” to test Orion life support and deep-space capability, with a 10-day duration, a farthest distance around 252,000 miles, and a lunar flyby/gravitational slingshot. Jeffries argues the Iran war is a “reckless war of choice” with no plan/exit strategy, and says Democrats will oppose a reported ~$200B war funding request and any health-care cuts.
Notable examples
Artemis II crew (Reed Wiseman, Victor Glover, Christina Koch, Jeremy Hansen). Launch details: 6:24 p.m. ET window, 10-minute hold, weather “90% go,” and a countdown to MECO/core-stage separation. Jeffries references Supreme Court birthright citizenship arguments and a War Powers resolution that failed in the House.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLive Updates from Kennedy Space Center
1:01 to 5:10
Josh Einiger provides updates on the Artemis II launch preparations and potential delays.
“And it starts with what you are seeing on your screen right now.”
Discussion with House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries
5:10 to 10:36
Leader Jeffries discusses the president's upcoming address and the ongoing war in Iran.
“Right now, we are going to turn to a special guest here on the beat for a big night in politics.”
Continued Political Analysis by Jeffries
10:36 to 14:00
Jeffries analyzes the implications of the war funding and discusses Trump's recent actions.
“Well, there was widespread public outrage about the bill that you just mentioned, but it did ultimately pass.”
Discussion on the Supreme Court and Trump
14:00 to 14:50
The conversation covers the Supreme Court's role and Trump's influence on judicial decisions.
“And as I think it was Justice Roberts pointed out, while the Trump administration, for whatever reason, is arguing that times have changed, of course that is in fact the case.”
Discussion on the Supreme Court and Trump
15:02 to 15:23
The conversation covers the Supreme Court's role and Trump's influence on judicial decisions.
“I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment.”
Details on Artemis II Launch Preparations
16:39 to 20:32
A report on the live launch preparations for the Artemis II mission.
“You're looking at live pictures from Cape Canaveral, Florida, where the Artemis II moon mission is scheduled to launch at any moment.”
Insights from Astronaut Danny Olivas
20:32 to 24:10
Danny Olivas shares insights about the astronaut's mindset and pre-launch protocols.
“It's a perfectly clear blue sky afternoon here on the space coast of Florida.”
The Importance of the Artemis II Mission
24:10 to 27:39
Discussion on the significance of the Artemis II mission for NASA and human spaceflight.
“Josh, you have an update from Mission Control.”
The Launch Experience and G-Forces
28:20 to 30:53
Understanding the rocket separation and sensations experienced by the crew during launch.
“You are seeing live pictures from Cape Canapal, Florida, where the Artemis II lunar mission is set to launch in just a few minutes.”
Commercial Involvement in Artemis II
30:54 to 32:04
Explore the role of private corporations in the Artemis II mission and its significance.
“What's their connection to this particular mission?”
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Challenges of the Artemis II Mission
32:05 to 33:10
Identifying the complexities and risks of the Artemis II mission for astronauts.
“It's a much bigger group of people involved in this that will hopefully will make it last longer than Apollo did.”
Live Launch of Artemis II
33:11 to 42:10
Witness the live launch sequence and initial moments of the Artemis II mission.
“as we are roughly 30 seconds away from launch.”
Historic Launch and Crew Overview
42:10 to 45:24
Discussing the successful launch of the Artemis II mission and the crew's significance.
“Integrity and nominal MECO, core stage separated.”
Implications of the Mission for Space Exploration
45:24 to 47:07
Exploring the broader implications of the Artemis II launch for future space exploration.
“And as calm as those NASA announcers sound, being there in person, that is the most intense and amazing experience just to witness.”
The Mood on the Space Coast
47:07 to 50:30
Describing the atmosphere and excitement surrounding the Artemis II launch on the Space Coast.
“This mission, that launch was the first step in getting human beings outside beyond just the envelope, the thin envelope of Earth, Earth orbit and into space.”
Future Challenges for the Astronauts
50:30 to 52:52
Anticipating what the astronauts will face as they continue their journey to the moon.
“And this is a big, big, big part of history that we are witnessing right now.”
Celebrating Diversity and Teamwork in Space
52:52 to 54:18
Highlighting the importance of diversity and teamwork in making the Artemis II mission possible.
“that they have to do there, but we are going to see them re-enter the Earth's orbit in 10 days.”
Transcript
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0:38We do real, like real adventures to Mars or real journeys into the future to see how imagination can really take us to strange new worlds and real trips into the past where we meet heroes and legends way ahead of their time. Real rockets, real astronauts, real adventure. All at Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex. Discover something real. Welcome to The Beat. I'm Melissa Murray in for Ari Melber. And we have got a huge night ahead. And it starts with what you are seeing on your screen right now. The imminent launch of Artemis II, the first crewed mission around the moon in more than 50 years.
1:16Liftoff is expected this hour, and we will be bringing it to you live. Later in the show, we're going to talk about another historic first, this time on Earth. the President of the United States attending oral arguments at the Supreme Court today as the court considers his attempt to end birthright citizenship. Plus, we're just hours away from the President's live address to the nation on the Iran war. He will deliver that speech amid flagging poll numbers that reflect his handling of both the war and the economy. But tonight, we are going to start with MS Now's Josh Einiger, who is live at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
1:59Josh, what does it look like there for the launch? Is it all systems go? Well, so far, so good, Melissa. I've actually been listening in this year to the mission control updates, and there was just an issue that has come up involving a battery on the Orion or the Artemis, the whole launcher behind me in the distance back there, behind me, the SLS rocket. Right now, they're working on troubleshooting that. We have not yet heard if that's going to impact the actual launch. The launch window opens at 624 Eastern time, so a little bit less than 24 minutes from now. There is a 10-minute hold, meaning they will hold the clock at T minus 10 minutes to make sure that all systems are going.
2:42So that's when we'll know exactly what happens. The window itself is two hours long. So they have two hours when they can launch Artemis 2 and get it on its trajectory to meet up with the moon on this historic lunar mission, a return of humankind to the moon for the first time in more than 50 years. So we'll, of course, be watching and I'll be listening, Melissa. I'm feeling a little nostalgic here. I grew up in Florida, so I remember the space shuttle launches and there were always these wide windows so they could troubleshoot anything that came up. But there was also the chance that you could miss the window entirely.
3:17If that is the case, when is the next opportunity for this launch? Tomorrow. They've got several windows over the next few days, Melissa. And then if they miss all of them, there's one more at the end of the month. This, by the way, is the third month that they've tried. There was a series of days in February and then a series of days in early March. And they came up with problems in both of those times. In fact, the second chunk of time they went through this, what they refer to as a wet dress rehearsal. They went through all the tests and they determined that there were issues that had to be worked out.
3:50And they actually rolled the entire vehicle back to the vehicle assembly building, the VAB. It's about a four mile journey moving very, very slowly. So they resolved all those issues. They have new seals that had been the issue. And they believe, they say, that everything looks good for launch. But a couple of things have cropped up. And Melissa, you remember this growing up here in Florida. I, 20 years ago, covered the space shuttle program, several launches. And there are all kinds of issues that come up in this phase of the countdown. So nothing necessarily means that there's going to be a scrub.
4:24When it comes to weather, that's the other thing. All day today, they said weather was 80 % go. They recently upgraded that to 90 % because there was a little cloudy here earlier. the skies over launch complex 39b have now cleared. Of course, the issue also is the weather along the trajectory that the rocket is going to take as it circles the Earth, as it exits the Earth's atmosphere, of course, because if there has to be an abort, they need clear weather all along the route. So it's much more complicated than just, as you see there in that picture, the sun right now shining on the Orion spacecraft as it sits on top of the SLS, that space launch system, which is the replacement for the shuttle, which, of course, was decommissioned years ago.
5:08All right, Josh, we will check back with you later in the hour. Right now, we are going to turn to a special guest here on the beat for a big night in politics. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat from New York, is joining us right now. Leader Jeffries, how are you? Good. Great to be with you. Great to have you. Lots of questions going on here. The president is going to make his big address tonight to the nation on update on the Iran war. What are you hoping to hear from the president about this incredibly unpopular war? All Trump and Republicans have gotten us into a reckless war of choice with no plan, no objectives and no clear exit strategy.
5:49The war clearly has not made us safer, but it has made life more expensive in this country and it needs to end. Now, the American people, as you've pointed out, Melissa, have expressed themselves from the very beginning of this conflict because our view in totality is that billions of dollars are being wasted right now to drop bombs in the Middle East. But the same group of extremists, Donald Trump and Republicans in the House and the Senate, won't even spend a dime to make life more affordable for the American people. In fact, we know what the war is doing. It's increasing costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing through the roof, and it's hurting everyday Americans all across the country.
6:29So tonight, are you hoping to hear a plan for withdrawing from Iran? And if so, what will that mean for the control of the Strait of Hormuz, which still remains in the hands of Iran? That's a challenge that Donald Trump, of course, has created, had no clear strategy or preparation done to deal with this eventuality. And that's part of the problem of how this president and Republicans have conducted themselves from the very beginning, sort of just unleashing chaos and extremism on the American people and on the world. Now, it will be interesting to see if the president has articulated a plan to bring our allies together in order to get the situation in terms of the straight and foremost under control.
7:12But he's not going to be able to accomplish that objective by criticizing and bullying and name calling our NATO allies, which is what this guy has done from the very beginning of his presidency and is completely and totally ineffective. So one of the criticisms of this war is that the president has never really consulted with Congress, as is required under the Constitution. Last month, a War Powers resolution that sought to restrain the president was issued but failed in the House. It was not passed. As this unpopular war continues, do you think the momentum on Capitol Hill is going to shift?
7:48And do you think there will be more members of the Republican Party who are willing to criticize this president and the way this war has been conducted in the absence of congressional approval? Certainly is my hope, but I'm not holding my breath because House Republicans have, from the very beginning of this presidency, conducting themselves not as a holy, I mean, not as a separate and co-equal branch of government, but actually like a wholly owned subsidiary of the Trump cartel. These people continue to bury their heads in the sand and just serve like a reckless rubber stamp for Donald Trump's extreme agenda.
8:22The war is so deeply unpopular. It's been so ineffective in accomplishing whatever objectives Donald Trump has articulated from day to day. And of course, it's making life more expensive for the American people. It is my hope that upon our return, when we will have the ability to bring another war powers resolution to the floor of the House, that a handful of House Republicans, we just need a few more to join us and we can successfully enact a resolution that would require Donald Trump to end the war immediately. You mentioned one of the dynamics that has made this war so unpopular, just had real constraints on affordability.
9:01Now the White House is reportedly eyeing a$200 billion funding request for the war. And the president has also reportedly suggested that additional cuts to health care may be necessary to fund the war. How is the Democratic caucus going to respond to these measures? Will you be opposing this? Will you seek concessions on other issues? Are you planning to make this an issue as we go into the midterm cycle? Well, it's my expectation that there will be strong opposition amongst House Democrats and Senate Democrats, as has already been expressed by many members across the Capitol. And, by the way, there should be some Republicans who join us.
9:40The notion that Donald Trump entered this country into a reckless war of choice is spending billions of dollars to drop bombs in Iran, but won't spend a dime to actually extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, to reverse the Medicaid cuts, to deal with the damage that has been done to the economy as a result of the Trump tariffs, and then wants to come back to the taxpayers and ask us for as much as potentially$200 billion is out of control. And, you know, I think one of the reasons why Donald Trump is now talking about trying to do this through the budget reconciliation process is because he knows his only hope is to try to jam this down the throats of the American people in an extreme partisan way.
10:25But I think the American people, as they've done with the one big ugly bill, will furiously react to any effort to continue to cut health care or cut nutritional assistance in order to actually fund Donald Trump's reckless war of choice. Well, there was widespread public outrage about the bill that you just mentioned, but it did ultimately pass. Are there steps that you all are taking to oppose this potential funding measure if it comes to the floor of the House? And what might it look like in the Senate? Well, it passed by a single vote, I believe, in both the House and in the Senate. And that was, of course, as a result of the fact that Republicans largely did what Donald Trump told them to do, notwithstanding the fact that many Republicans had previously committed not to cutting Medicaid or not to cutting nutritional assistance.
11:19What we'll need to do is just get a handful of House Republicans to join us. We'll just need one or two more. And I expect there will be complete Democratic opposition in the House and in the Senate, as was the case against the one big ugly bill. And we just have to continue to forcefully lay things out for the American people. The American people want their taxpayer dollars spent to make their life more affordable, not actually to rip away health care, to unleash violent, masked and untrained ICE agents, to brutalize and in some cases kill the American citizens. And in some and now, of course, dealing with this dynamic as it relates to funding a deeply unpopular war.
12:05Speaking of ICE, there is now a measure that is likely that has gone through to continue funding DHS, although there is an exemption for the provisions that would fund ICE and Customs and Border Control enforcement. What was the process like for that? Are you and your caucus happy with this resolution to what has been a standoff with the administration? Well, what we've made clear to Donald Trump and Republicans during this entire Trump-Republican shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security is that we should fund TSA, fund FEMA, fund the Coast Guard, fund our cybersecurity professionals, and make sure that there are actually dramatic, bold, meaningful changes to ICE so that ICE is brought back under control because we know they're conducting themselves in a violent and extreme fashion.
12:54immigration enforcement in this country should be fair, just, and humane. We need to get the Department of Homeland Security reopened in terms of every other part of it that doesn't relate to Donald Trump's violent mass deportation machine. And that's a positive outcome from the American people while we continue to fight the battles that need to be fought in terms of the type of reforms that need to be put into place before ICE gets another dime in taxpayer dollars. So, Leader Jeffries, President Trump was at the Supreme Court this morning. What do you think that was about? Why did he choose to attend these oral arguments the first time a president has ever done so?
13:33What was the play here? Well, it's very King-like behavior, it appears, in terms of Donald Trump showing up. I don't know whether he was trying to intimidate the justices that he had previously appointed in some instances, but I think appropriately so. and you certainly are one of the top legal scholars in the country. But the Constitution, the 14th Amendment, the Birthright Citizenship Clause is very clear. And as I think it was Justice Roberts pointed out, while the Trump administration, for whatever reason, is arguing that times have changed, of course that is in fact the case. This was a Reconstruction Amendment, but the Constitution remains the same.
14:17And that has not been changed. And so hopefully Supreme Court justices are going to do the right thing in terms of ruling as has been the case in prior Supreme Court decisions or every other federal court that has considered this matter. And Donald Trump's last ditch desperate effort to show up and try to intimidate the justices will go nowhere. All right. Leader Jeffries, thanks so much for joining us to get us started tonight. Thank you. Just ahead, we are minutes from the launch of Artemis II. This is the first crewed mission around the world, around the moon in more than 50 years. And liftoff is coming up.
14:57We'll cover that when we come right back from this break.
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16:39You're looking at live pictures from Cape Canaveral, Florida, where the Artemis II moon mission is scheduled to launch at any moment. This is the first crewed lunar mission since 1972. The launch window for this mission opens at 6.24 p.m. Eastern, and it will remain open for two hours. Right now, you're seeing here the SLS rocket, It is a massive instrument, measures 322 feet tall, it weighs 5.7 million pounds with fuel, and it generates 9 million pounds of thrust. And all of that is headed to space. Here is the crew of the Artemis mission, and it's comprised of three Americans and one Canadian.
17:24If the mission is successful, these astronauts will set the record for the farthest anyone has ever been from Earth, an incredible 252 ,000 miles away from this planet. The crew will fly to the moon, circle the far side of the moon, and perform what is known as a gravitational slingshot, which will then propel them home. The mission is expected to last 10 days and will be a test of life support systems for a future moon landing. Again, we are just minutes away from the launch window opening. And to make sense of all of this and to give us a sense of what those astronauts are doing right now, we have a great panel to guide us through this historic moment.
18:09MS Now's Josh Einiger is live at Kennedy Space Center. Danny Olivas is a retired astronaut with two NASA missions and five spacewalks under his belt. Also with us is Casey Dreyer, the chief of space policy for the Planetary Society. and we are also joined by Adam Frank, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Rochester. Josh, again, what is the mood on the ground at the Cape? Well, there's sort of a hush right now at the press site at Kennedy Space Center, Michelle, because at the moment, we are listening, I'm listening in this ear right now, and a lot of people are listening to the NASA team right now doing their final poll for launch, all the various modules within the launch control, within the flight testing control.
18:56They've been going from point to point to point asking if they are a go for launch. And the crew just said they are a go for launch. So right now we are waiting for them to resume the count. They are right now in what they call a 10-minute hold, where they hold the countdown at 10 minutes and give the launch team time to really make sure their T's are crossed and their I's are dotted and they are ready for a safe launch. As you said, there is a two-hour window that starts at 624, but it doesn't end, of course, until 824. And so they have a cushion of time. They don't really have to start, actually start the launch sequence and launch at 624.
19:36That said, an interesting bit of information that they said there are 150 individual times within that two-hour window when they can't launch. And that's because there's a lot of other things orbiting the Earth. There are satellites, there's junk, there's debris. And so there are times when they can't apparently launch Artemis because at that point they have to make sure they're basically traffic cops in addition to making sure all the systems on the vehicle are go. So we are waiting. You're looking at it on the pad, Launch Complex 39B. And a message to the crew from the launch director just now, Godspeed, let's go.
20:16So it does sound like they are perhaps moments away from resuming the clock, which still sits at 10 minutes. So it is a pretty exciting time. They've had a number of issues that have popped up in the last hour or so as they've been counting down to this point. They did say for each of them that they had resolved them. The weather is clear. It's a perfectly clear blue sky afternoon here on the space coast of Florida. And we are right now waiting for the clock to resume, the count to resume. and to watch history here on Florida's Space Coast. So, Danny, you have been in space. You have been exactly where this crew is.
20:54What's going through their minds right now as they prepare to get the word that liftoff is a go? Well, I guarantee you that they are focused right now 100 % on their procedures, on everything that they've been training for for all these years, as is everybody on the ground. Everyone is basically laser-focused on their assignments and what the data is supposed to tell them, what it's not supposed to tell them, and they are looking at everything as tightly as they possibly can. This is a very, very delicate time during the launch sequence, right, as you get into the find count. And if something is not right, now's the time to sing out because you just don't have a whole lot of time to work the problem.
21:34So we do build in a 10-minute hold to make sure everybody is ready, everybody can catch their breath. As you head into that final 10-minute count, basically, you're just firing up the bird and getting ready to go explore space. So, Danny, what are the kinds of last-minute quality control checks that the crew is doing right now? They're all strapped in, ostensibly. What are they looking at? What do they need to deal with before this can actually happen? Five minutes to what? Well, as you can imagine, with the complexity of a vehicle such as this, There are so many different subsystems that have to communicate with one another.
22:10So a lot of it is data communication, making sure that the sensors are all reading what they're supposed to, that they're communicating with the computer systems to make sure that the very small valves and very small components are operating properly. I mean, this thing is instrumented to the nth degree. And everything has to be working perfectly before they actually light that candle. Because once you light the solid rocket boosters, you can't shut them down. And so you're getting ready to go on a very long trip. And right now, this is the opportunity to test everything out in the final counts.
22:44They've been testing up until now, and they will continue that testing right up before launch when they basically hand over the control over to the bird. So, Danny, when you were in this position, what did your day look like? The day you were going to light the candle and go off into space, how did you start your day? What do you do? Are there special protocols about what you can eat and how you prepare for the rest of the day? What does it look like? Well, a lot of people think that all they do is simply just drive up to the bird, jump on top of it, and then away you go, right? I guarantee you this crew has already been putting in a full day and a half of work on their end.
23:21They started early this morning with their pre-flight checks. They loaded up around, I guess, around 2 p.m. Eastern time. So they have actually been, you know, in place and actually working with the ground team, the launch control team, to make sure that the bird is healthy and ready to go. By the time they make it into orbit, I mean, it's literally the end of a very, very long day. We're talking in the order of 10, 12 hours, especially if you go near the end of the window. So when Artemis finally launches, the crew is going to be exhausted by the time they get up there. And they still have to take this rocket and convert it into an on-air platform that basically keeps them alive for the next nine and a half days or so.
24:01So there's still a lot of work in front of them. They're focused on it. But that's what they train for. That's what we all train for when we get ready to fly in space. All right. Josh, you have an update from Mission Control. What's going on on the ground? They have now entered what they refer to as terminal count. They have restarted the count at 10 minutes. So we are counting down now to 635 Eastern is the new actual time when Artemis will launch. The Orion spacecraft sitting on top of the new SLS rocket, which replaced the space shuttle that we all grew up watching launch from here at Kennedy Space Center.
24:40Orion, by the way, has been named by the crew as Integrity. So when we listen to their communications from Orion itself, we're going to be hearing the word Integrity a lot. That is what they're calling the vehicle, which is, by the way, the size of about a six-person tent. And that's where they'll be living for the next 10 days. All right, Casey, we are in the middle of a countdown. What does this mission mean for NASA, which has been in somewhat of a lull since the end of the space shuttle program? Well, debatably, I think they landed on Mars multiple times with robots. We've sent missions to Pluto.
25:18There's a lot of science happening. There's a lot of climate and Earth science happening. Human spaceflight has been in a transition period. And I think we're seeing the end of this transition period today. The space shuttle was a 40-year program. This rocket that they're sitting on now is a direct descendant of the space shuttle. It was actually mandated by Congress in 2010. This is the first time it's flying with humans. During that time, we have all this new era of commercial rockets like SpaceX Falcon, which actually carries astronauts too, but only to orbit. But this is our first deep space rocket that the United States has had capable of launching humans since the Saturn V, since the 1960s and early 70s.
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25:56So this is a fundamental upgrading capability. The shuttle never could have gone to the moon. This is designed to go to the moon. Professor, why is it so important to head back to the moon? What's the play here for the space program? And again, this isn't going to land on the moon, but it will get around the moon and is understood to be a dress rehearsal for future moon landings. What's the importance of the moon here for the space program? Well, the important thing is, you know, 50 years ago, we went and then we stopped going because we'd done what we needed to do, which at the time was kind of beat the Russians.
26:32But now everything has changed, right? Now we're going back to the moon and we're going to stay. The space economy right now is already hundreds of billions of dollars. It is projected to be trillions of dollars within the next decade or so. So it's not only exploration that we're interested in now and establishing a base, a permanent base on the moon. But really, we're beginning to transition to becoming a spacefaring civilization, a spacefaring race. So that's really why we're going back. This is a first step in becoming in staying out there. All right. We have to take a very short commercial break, but we are going to stay on this.
27:08And when we come back, we are going to be in full countdown mode. So join us on the other side of this break.
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28:53You are seeing live pictures from Cape Canapal, Florida, where the Artemis II lunar mission is set to launch in just a few minutes. We have an all-star crew here on live with us telling us what is going on on the ground there. I want to go back to you, Danny. What is it like in the rocket separation process? What will it feel like for this crew as they begin to feel the kinds of G-forces that will be pulling on them as the spacecraft separates from the rockets that take it into the air? the engines that are being used on sls are actually the same style of engines that were built for the space shuttle era and i can tell you from first-hand experience that the that the feeling is exhilarating and extremely um um i guess it's really it's hard to describe how incredibly uh violent and and um significant those vibrations are you know it's the the maximum extent of random vibrations you could possibly imagine.
29:57There's no way that your eyeballs can keep up with it. And it really gives you quite the bit of a shaking. And the crew's going to feel that. As soon as they, six seconds prior to launch, they'll fire up the main engines, make sure that they're running healthy because those run on liquid oxygen. But then when they get the T-minus zero, the solid rocket boosters will light. And as soon as that happens, there'll be a big kick in the pants and next thing you know, you're on your way. And it is a very, a lot of vibration As you make your way up, you eventually go through 3G throttling as they throttle back the engines before they go through maximum aerodynamic pressure.
30:33And when you get to orbit, you're pointing something on the order of around 3Gs, you really feel it. But when the main engine's cut off and you are now safely in orbit, it's an exhilarating feeling because all that vibration goes away in an instant. And next thing you know, everything's floating around you, and it's just a surreal experience. Casey, one big change in the space program is that now private corporations are more involved in space missions. What's their connection to this particular mission? We've heard talk of Blue Origin being involved. How exactly are they involved and what will their influence be?
31:08The big change is that commercial contracting is getting services for landing on the moon, for launching astronauts into space. This particular mission, Artemis 2, is very much a more standard NASA mission that we've been seeing over the last few decades. But I'll note, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, any number of contractors, Teledyne, private companies are building this thing. It's just that NASA takes ownership of it. It is the subsequent missions, the missions that land on the moon, SpaceX and Blue Origin are actually going to be providing lunar landing services, which is a really fun phrase to say.
31:42But NASA is paying them to deliver astronauts to the surface of the moon. They'll launch on this rocket, travel to the moon on Orion, and then dock with one of the landing surfacing capabilities, pieces of hardware, land on the surface by SpaceX or Blue Origin. So it's a really, it's a group effort. And that's the big change really compared to Apollo, that this is a much bigger coalition. There's international partners involved in this, commercial partners. It's a much bigger group of people involved in this that will hopefully will make it last longer than Apollo did. Josh, back on the ground in Cape Canaveral, what's the hardest part of this mission or anticipated to be the hardest part of this mission for these astronauts to execute?
32:22And what exactly makes it so complicated for them? Well, what's complicated, I think, as some of the other guests have mentioned, is that this is a really a proving mission. Humans have not gone on an Artemis mission yet. They are going farther than any other humans have before. They're going 248 ,000 miles away. If all goes well, they'll be there on the backside of the moon in around six days. We're, by the way, at one minute now, I am hearing. So it's 56 seconds and counting right now. A lot of it is unproven. They haven't put humans up there. The point of this, one of the points, is to show that the Orion spacecraft can support human flight, life support systems, in the course of this very delicate mission.
33:05and then, of course, land safely when they splash down in the Pacific Ocean in 10 days. All right, let's pause here and watch what's happening at Cape Canaveral as we are roughly 30 seconds away from launch. Great call out. The rocket is on its own. Four brave explorers ready to ride the most powerful rocket NASA has ever launched.
33:30Sound suppression water is flowing. 15. And here we go. 10, 9, 8, 7. RS-25 engines lit. 4, 3, 2, 1. Booster ignition. And lift off. The crew of Artemis II now bound for the moon. Humanity's next great voyage begins.
34:00Good roll pitch. Roger, roll pitch. Houston now controlling the flight of Integrity on the Artemis II mission.
34:16Integrity, AMT High. AMT High. Mod time passes the 30 seconds to the ones. Integrity passes the alternate Mico. Target milestone. Mission Control Houston seeing good performance in the Boeing engines. Space Launch System core stage. Integrity. Three miles in altitude. Traveling more than 1 ,200 miles per hour.
34:58Mission elapsed time, passing one minute, approaching Max Q. On, Bonsai Leon. Stan, we have you loud and clear on Bonsai Leon. Have you the same. Communication signal transfer confirmed as Integrity and its crew go supersonic. Approaching 90 seconds into the Artemis 2 mission. Integrity is 14 miles in altitude, 8 miles downrange, traveling more than 2 ,600 miles per hour.
35:411 minute 50 seconds of mission elapsed time standing by for main engine throttle down to 85 % ahead of solid rocket booster separation expected at the 2 minute 9 second mark We see throttle to throttle down
36:01Confirmed separation Main engines throttling up, guidance converged
36:14Integrity, guidance converged, performance nominal, upper stage RCS ready Copy all, spin.
36:27Integrity SM priming complete. SM priming complete. 2 minutes 45 seconds of mission elapsed time into the Artemis 2 mission. Frusters on Integrity and Upper Stage confirmed in a ready state, head of service module fairing separation.
36:483 minutes into the flight. Integrity 49 miles in altitude, 78 miles downrange. Now passing 5 ,000 miles per hour.
37:10Standing by for launch board system jettison.
37:16Houston Integrity, good last genesis, great deal. Happy genesis, team eco eight plus zero two.
37:28We see you sail on board, Stan. And Houston has you loud and clear on Tidra's at the common line.
37:39Outstanding, Stan, we have you sail on. 3 minutes 50 seconds into the flight of Artemis II, Wiseman, Glover, Cook, and Hansen cross the boundary to space with good comm checks. GPS signals acquired after last jettison now working on internal checks to verify accuracy. Flight Dynamics Officer analyzed the time of main engine cutoff confirmed at 8 minutes 2 seconds, time of MECO.
38:31Integrity, GPS profiting.
38:37Outstanding, Stan. We see the same, and we have a beautiful moonrise. We're headed right at it.
38:47Approaching five minutes into the flight, Commander Reed Wiseman confirms he has visuals of his destination. GPS guidance, navigation, and control software finishes internal checks and sends to navigation channels.
39:02Integrity, three engine clamp.
39:08Three engine press. On time now, passing 5 minutes 20 seconds of mission elapsed time into the Artemis 2 mission. At this point, three good main engines are all that's needed to carry integrity to a nominal main engine cutoff target. Though at this time, we're seeing four good engines here in Mission Control Houston. Integrity 75 miles in altitude, 330 miles downrange, approaching 10 ,000 miles per hour.
39:47Up. Integrity looking good at six minutes.
39:56Same on board, Stan. Good trajectory and engine performance. Booster officer will soon report the shutdown plan to Flight Director Judge Freeling expected at the seven-minute mark. Integrity, 78 miles in altitude, 460 miles downrange. Integrity, expect nominal shutdown.
40:22Integrity copies, nominal shutdown.
40:306 minutes 40 seconds of mission elapsed time. Shutdown plan is as expected. Again, the time of MECA was confirmed at 8 minutes 2 seconds into the flight.
40:517 minutes of mission elapsed time.
40:58Throttling down as we approach the abort once around option. Milestone at the 7 minute 30 second mark. Now 84 miles in altitude, 650 miles downrange, traveling more than 15 ,000 miles per hour. A-O-A open.
41:22A-O-A open. The window is now open for an abort once-around option that with targets splashdown in the Pacific Ocean, still following nominal ascent at this time.
41:44About 10 seconds remaining until the main engine cutoff of the Space Launch System Core Stage. Standing by for confirmation of MECO and Core Stage separation.
42:13Integrity and nominal MECO, core stage separated.
42:21We see the same onboarding, Stan.
42:318 minutes 40 seconds into the flight, we have a nominal main engine cutoff heading in the right trajectory on the way to swing around the moon. Core stage has separated, done its job. The Space Launch System upper stage, the Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage, or ICPS, still attached to the Orion spacecraft.
42:52Nine minutes of mission elapsed time. Integrity crew of Reed Wiseman, Victor Glover, Christina Cook, and Jeremy Henson now in orbit around the Earth at the beginning of their journey to the moon.
43:09Integrity Houston looking ahead to PRM. Numbers so far for the pad. All right. Right. So Commander Reed Weissman, Victor Glover, the pilot, Christina Koch, the mission specialist, all from the United States, and Jeremy Hansen, a Canadian mission specialist, have successfully launched. Danny, as you can see from the photographs, this is a very small capsule. What is it like for the crew to live in this space for the next 10 days? Well, it looks small. I certainly don't think about it from a long gravity environment, but in space, you've got lots of room because it doesn't really matter where you work.
43:53You can work upside down, right side up, on the floor, on the walls. Actually, a little bit of space turns into a lot of space in a real quick hurry. In fact, you lose a lot of stuff, too, because things seem to float all over the place. I just have to say I'm absolutely thrilled to see this. It was such an impressive launch. I mean, by the books, they went right by the numbers, and it was just absolutely magnificent. When you hear those words, Miko, that's when I can breathe. So I'm just thrilled that they're there. I'm just so excited. This was a thrilling thing to watch. Casey, this is an historic mission, the first time a crewed ship is headed back to the moon.
44:35And it's historic in a lot of other ways, the nature of the crew. Pilot Victor Glover is going to be the first African-American on a lunar mission. Christina Koch will be the first woman to circumnavigate the moon. What does their selection represent for the future of space travel? Yeah, I mean, it's certainly much more representative of the country that is funding this whole endeavor. But I'm sorry, this is the most amazing thing I'd ever seen. It's the first time I've seen a launch to the moon, right? This used to be history for anyone under the age of 54. This is spectacular. This is how many engineers and scientists were just made because of that moment we just watched.
45:17Scott, I'm looking at you. You are going to be. I know so many kids watching this, and it's just spectacular. What an amazing thing. And as calm as those NASA announcers sound, being there in person, that is the most intense and amazing experience just to witness. You feel the power of these things. It is. What an astonishing event we just witnessed. And again, this is why we do these kind of amazing things. It reminds us what we're capable of. And it really brings out literally the best in us and all the astronauts and tapping from our large, from all the talent that we have available to us in this country and in all of our allies.
45:57It's fantastic. No, it is an amazing thing to watch. And as you say, we do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Professor Frank, these astronauts have done something that most Americans can only dream of, and yet this mission may have real consequences for life on this planet and beyond. So what does this mission mean for the American public and the future of space exploration and the scientific gains that may be gleaned from it? Yeah, I have to say, first of all, I also have to have my moment. I mean, this is just such an extraordinary thing. And to your point, you know, what just happened is something that will be remembered long after all of us, anybody alive today is long gone.
46:39Because this is not just a launch, you know, to go to the moon. This is really the opening of the permanently opening the frontier beyond Earth orbit. Like we've been in Earth orbit now for decades, but to actually open up the rest of the solar system. And, you know, when you think about it in 1900, you know, somebody found out like, oh, we had an airplane. Somebody flew an airplane. Big deal. Now everybody flies all the time. In 100 years or so, 200 years, we can expect there can be many, millions, hundreds of millions of people living and working in space. This mission, that launch was the first step in getting human beings outside beyond just the envelope, the thin envelope of Earth, Earth orbit and into space.
47:25And the consequences of this are going to ripple through generation after generation. Josh, we're all a little verklempt here. What's the mood like on the Space Coast? I mean, you know, it's easy to be verklempt watching it on the TV. From here, I mean, it's like it's impossible to describe what it's like to see one of these things in person. We're four miles away from the launch pad. And it is just, you know, the force is so incredibly intense. It shakes your insides together. It shakes the water on the lagoon behind me. Everything just shakes. Our equipment went offline briefly. It was taking some hits.
48:10So that's how powerful this was. And I just want to say, and I've been hearing what people have been saying on this panel, this incredibly distinguished panel. This is such a triumph of ingenuity. And it really is just such a culmination of years and years of work by thousands of people, not just the four astronauts on board integrity. But this entire space program, this has been in the works now for about a decade. And so far, they are on track to reaching their goal. There are a lot of steps along the way between now and when they actually make their moonshot later this week. But, you know, look, the actual launch of a rocket like this is so fraught.
48:55There are so many points where things can go wrong. And to see it go successfully is just an amazing sight to see. Well, to your point, I remember growing up in Florida, it was not uncommon to know families who were connected to the space program in some capacity. And these days were heady ones, but also really complicated, I think, for people who are watching, people who had loved ones who are connected to the mission. As you say, lots of things can happen. A mission can be scuttled. Things can go wrong. What was the mood like among the crowd as these astronauts exited Earth's orbit safely? So where we are is a site within the Kennedy Space Center complex, and it's mostly press and NASA employees who are back behind us.
49:45And these are people who do this for a living, who were cheering, jumping up and down and cheering when this was happening. There are thousands, tens of thousands of people up and down the Space Coast who were watching this from public parks a little bit farther away, but still close enough to get a really good look. This is a huge tourism boom to this part of Florida, which has not seen something like this in quite some time. Hotels have been booked solid for weeks. In fact, they've been booked and then unbooked because people who've wanted to come here from all around the world, frankly, booked trips in February.
50:20And then the February launch windows were scrubbed. And then they booked trips again in March. They were scrubbed. And now here we are, April Fool's Day. But this was no joke. This really went. And this is a big, big, big part of history that we are witnessing right now. Right. We can see them strapped in there earlier in the day. Can I come back to you, Josh? Just again, the mood was so ebullient when this happened. But obviously, this is an ongoing mission. They're going to be working on what is happening on the craft itself, all of the various tasks that they have to do here. What's the next big milestone for mission control in this crew?
51:04So, like you said, there's a whole series of tests that they have to do to make sure that the actual vehicle is working properly, the systems on board are working properly, and it's going to be another day or two before they begin the sequence of events that slingshots them around the moon. Remember, this trip is mostly a proving mission, right? It's a way for NASA to show that the Orion spacecraft and the SLS that sent it up into orbit are viable for this moon, this series of moon missions, this priority on the part of the space administration and the part of NASA to build a base on the moon and then use that as a base for future deep space exploration.
51:48for as long as man has been looking at the sky, man has wanted to go to the moon, man has wanted to go to Mars, man has wanted to go and explore deep space. I have not, Josh, just to be clear. Well, right. And I should say humankind, but of course I like standing here and watching it myself. But it is the sort of the, just the magic of exploration that really does attract so many people's attention. And quite frankly, in the last several years, NASA has not really provided public inspiration the way it did before when you and I were growing up. And the new administrator of NASA, Jared Isaacman, has been very clear saying he wants kids to grow up and dress up as astronauts for Halloween again, which they haven't done in quite some time.
52:42This is a priority at the highest levels of the federal government right now. And they appear at least a few minutes into this mission to be well on their way. All right, Danny, just before we go, the next big point for these astronauts, obviously the work that they have to do there, but we are going to see them re-enter the Earth's orbit in 10 days. What does that look like? What challenges do they face? And what will you be looking for? They're going to come in streaming at close to 25 ,000 miles an hour and the temperature on the on a stagnation point, it'll reach somewhere in the order of about 5 ,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
53:20So it'll be sporty. But the crew is ready. The vehicle is ready. We had some experience with Artemis 1. We learned a lot as a result of that test flight. And by the time a crew comes home, they will have accomplished something that this country hasn't seen in a long time. And they will have done so in a diverse manner, where we have demonstrated the wonder that we can accomplish through embracing the diversity of what America is. I mean, everything and everyone. Tens of thousands of engineers and scientists and researchers and space lovers across our country have come to make this mission happen.
54:02And we have four astronauts right now that are making their way to the moon to come back and prove that we can do phenomenal things when we work together. And a whole generation of space lovers born tonight on this historic evening. Josh Eindiger, Danny, all of us, Casey Dreyer, and Professor Adam Frank, thank you so much for walking us through all of this. We will be right back. Thanks for joining us tonight as America once again makes its way back to the moon. That does it for me. Every day as a small business owner feels like solving a puzzle. One moment you're cruising along, And the next, there's a shipping snag that has you scrambling.
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