Trump WH Swamped by Iran, Epstein, Prices, Court Losses

9 Jul 2026 · 41 min · 24 chapters

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In short

The episode covers multiple Trump-era setbacks: the Iran ceasefire unraveling, the Qatar “Air Force One” jet gift and security concerns, the ongoing Epstein investigation, and court losses for Trump (Kennedy Center name bid; E. Jean Carroll appeal). It also discusses ICE’s fatal shooting of an undocumented Mexican father in Texas and the family’s demand for accountability, plus an affordability crisis reflected in culture and music. It then pivots to politics: Democrats’ push to flip the Texas Senate seat, focusing on Democrat James Tallarico vs. GOP AG Ken Paxton, and why the race is unusually close.

Guests (backgrounds)

Checo Manduri (Obama campaign veteran). Tara Palmiari (veteran journalist, author; host of “Tara Palmiari” podcast). Jeremy Wallace (Houston Chronicle political reporter). Brian B. Miller (music writer; MTV/Complex veteran).

Key claims

Trump “losing the war and the peace” with Iran; White House lacks transparency (including health); Epstein oversight must restart with witnesses under oath; ICE deaths are avoidable and accountability is blocked by avoiding local probes; Paxton’s controversies and Trump’s drag hurt GOP turnout; Tallarico’s fundraising and messaging give Democrats a shot.

Notable examples

Iran ceasefire nearly over; gifted Qatar jet reportedly missing defenses; Epstein probe continuing with plans to re-call witnesses; Trump court losses in Kennedy Center and Carroll; ICE killing of Lorenzo Salgado Arajo after alleged vehicle threat (son denies); Texas polling tied within margin; Paxton alleged election-law violation and past scandals; Cardi B and Shibuzzi songs reflecting price stress.

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Chapters

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Trump's Foreign Policy Struggles

0:00 to 0:24

Exploration of Trump's failures in foreign policy and ongoing wars.

“This is Stute calling about your overdue account balance.”

Trump's Foreign Policy Struggles

1:08 to 1:54

Exploration of Trump's failures in foreign policy and ongoing wars.

“And we will bring you the latest on that in tonight's broadcast.”

Domestic Criticism and Consequences

1:54 to 2:20

Discussion on the criticism Trump faces from his supporters regarding the war.

“This has become a political problem that Trump can't shake, the Post reports.”

Concerns Over Trump's Qatar Jet Gift

2:20 to 3:25

Details on Trump's jet gift from Qatar and associated security concerns.

“How do you feel about this war continuing, about this war dragging on?”

Epstein Probe and Political Implications

3:25 to 4:03

Insight into the continuation of the Epstein investigation and its relevance to Trump.

“Trump to use a different plane flying back to the U.S.”

Trump's Legal Challenges

4:03 to 4:33

Overview of Trump's recent legal losses and implications for his presidency.

“A top court rejects that bid by Trump to get his name back on the Kennedy Center.”

Expert Insights on Trump's Strategy

4:33 to 6:00

Discussion with guests on whether Trump is losing the war and peace.

“And while he did make some noise down in Georgia, a judge recently ruling this week, it's too late to even go back down the memory hole of that old Trump loss.”

Analysis of Trump's Foreign Policy Decisions

6:00 to 7:22

Critical examination of Trump's foreign policy decisions and their outcomes.

“This war is not something anybody that's conservative wanted.”

Public Transparency Issues

7:22 to 8:38

Discussion on the lack of transparency in Trump's administration regarding health and finances.

“And Che, I mentioned all of the other assorted domestic problems, including this sort of lack of transparency on a lot of things going on with Donald Trump.”

Epstein Investigation Updates

8:38 to 11:20

Focus on the ongoing Epstein investigation and its political significance.

“And I'll be honest, as a Democrat, you know, Dianne Feinstein, that was a situation where there was a complete lack of transparency about her health.”
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Future of Democratic Strategy

11:20 to 12:46

Exploration of how Democrats plan to approach the upcoming elections.

“And we'll see what happens when Leon Black comes.”

Introduction to MAGA and Awards

14:00 to 14:24

Discussion on MAGA's reactions and Bad Bunny's Emmy nominations.

“And by the end of the hour, MAGA tears, MAGA complaints, but ultimately MAGA wrong.”

Midterm Election Dynamics

15:40 to 16:00

Exploring the upcoming midterm elections and indicators in Texas.

“All wars changed the world, but none of them like the Second World War did.”

Texas Senate Race Insights

16:00 to 18:15

Analysis of the competitive Texas Senate race between Tallarico and Paxton.

“because it depends on you and the voters and what people do.”

The Trump Effect on Republicans

18:15 to 20:02

Discussing how Trump influences the Republican Party and elections.

“Those are the ads that Texas Republicans and other voters have already been hearing about.”

Polling and Independent Voters

20:02 to 24:48

Insights into polling trends and the impact of independents on the race.

“We have two special guests on this, including a reporter in Texas when we come back.”

Tallarico's Unique Position

24:48 to 28:00

Evaluating James Tallarico's approach and potential as a Democratic candidate.

“Yeah, I think we talked in the last segment about there being the end of the Trump era with us winning the Senate, with Democrats winning the Senate, with a national vibe shift, a national paradigm shift.”

Campaign Strategies and Voter Engagement

28:00 to 28:40

Discussing the financial strategies in campaigning and voter outreach.

“And so Tallarico has this huge financial advantage.”

Tragic Incident Involving ICE

28:40 to 29:08

Addressing the shooting of Lorenzo Salgado Arajo by ICE and the family's call for accountability.

“MAGA is big mad as Bad Bunny's halftime show is being embraced by the Emmys.”

Public Reaction to ICE Policies

29:08 to 31:35

Exploring public outrage and shifting opinions on ICE and deportation policies.

“I saw a video posted on Facebook that he had been shot.”

Affordability Crisis Reflected in Culture

31:35 to 34:28

Linking the affordability crisis to cultural expressions and music trends.

“When we come back, I'm going to turn to this ongoing affordability crisis and a way you can sometimes spot these big issues like high price outrage on the pop charts before they're even in our politics.”

Interview with Brian B. Miller

34:28 to 35:44

Exploring music trends and opinions with music writer Brian B. Miller.

“You might not find every public policy solution on the radio, but an eye on the charts can definitely keep you tapped into what's on people's minds from Dylan to Cardi.”

Top Rappers of 2026 Discussion

35:44 to 42:01

Discussing the rankings and impact of top rappers in 2026 with Brian B. Miller.

“And I think she does, you know, have this sort of this remorse for for her fans having to buy her album at this point.”

Jay-Z's Influence and Anticipation

42:01 to 43:40

Explore Jay-Z's cultural impact and the excitement surrounding his performances.

“They were there when he first got his start.”
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Transcript

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0:49Take the next step toward a data-driven career. Learn more at geeseonline.illinois.edu backslash analytics. Welcome to Beat Everyone. I'm Ari Melber. We have a story tonight that we're following with the growing outrage over another ICE fatality, an officer killing an immigrant from Mexico who'd lived in the U.S. for 35 years, a father in Texas. An important story. And we will bring you the latest on that in tonight's broadcast. We begin with the president losing the war and losing the peace. The setbacks range from the domestic to the international. We have the Epstein scandal roaring back. We have the souring on the Trump economy.

1:27We have, of course, his Qatar jet gift and his own supporters turning on him over an Iran war that they did not want and that is not ending well. The ceasefire is all but over. Each side is attacking the other. So we have to say that while many had hoped that this could be another momentary set of volleys, it looks like something deeper, a crack up of the very end to the war that Trump had promised. He is losing the peace. This has become a political problem that Trump can't shake, the Post reports. It was clear that the president was in a rush, apart from what might have been the best type of diplomacy or what the experts would say, to try to get this thing claimed as wrapped up going into the summer and the midterms.

2:11that failed. And over on Fox, there are even Trump voters criticizing what they see as this obvious failed end to a costly war. How do you feel about this war continuing, about this war dragging on? I'm never a fan of it. So, no, I'm not. I'm not thrilled with this at all. So much uncertainty related to what's going on with Iran. It's going to have a direct impact on inflation. He was a no-war president, and now we're at war. The one thing we need is a different negotiating team. If we go to negotiations, and that's a big if, this team can't do it. Have a different team go in there, and we should demand different people.

2:53If you could talk directly to President Trump about this war, what would you tell him? I would tell him enough. Enough is how a lot of people are feeling, but the problem with starting these kind of wars, as Donald Trump once used to also agree upon that being a problem, is that they are harder to end than they are to start. And so here we are. There's also revelations about Trump's jet gift from Qatar. There was millions spent to refurbish this thing, which he then later wants to have for personal use after he leaves the presidency. But there's security concerns forcing Trump to use a different plane flying back to the U.S.

3:28overnight. National security veterans tell us The gifted plane lacks key military defenses of the original Air Force One, including the ability to refuel midair and missile defense systems. Meanwhile, as I mentioned, the Epstein probe has not ended despite Donald Trump's many efforts to make it kind of go away or get out of the headlines. Politico reports on that. A year after Congress started this investigations, Republicans are included in some of the plans to continue probing Epstein's powerful associates. Democrats say this will be central to their ongoing oversight of Trump if they win the majority in the midterms, something that he's clearly aware of and worried about.

4:05Then there are the legal losses. A top court rejects that bid by Trump to get his name back on the Kennedy Center. It is not the Trump-Kennedy Center, not under law. A Manhattan federal appeals court just rejected Trump's effort to try to get out of paying over$5 million in the E. Jean Carroll sex abuse and defamation case. This comes after a string of other court losses, including the quashing of one of those controversial election-related subpoenas where Trump was trying to relitigate 2020. And while he did make some noise down in Georgia, a judge recently ruling this week, it's too late to even go back down the memory hole of that old Trump loss.

4:44I want to bring in Checo Manduri, an Obama campaign veteran and Tara Palmiari, veteran journalist, author of the Red Letter on Substack, and host of the Tara Palmiari broadcast. podcast excuse me welcome to both of you uh che i put it simply because the old saying was in the middle east you can win the war right you could topple saddam hussein and lose the peace um here is it too simple too exaggerated to say that trump has lost this war by its own metrics and appears now to be losing the peace and the ceasefire yeah i mean he started a war and now he is losing it. He is absolutely showing an inability to execute the job of the presidency and be the steward of our foreign policy in a way that is smart or competent or well thought out.

5:35This is a disaster, a foreign policy disaster like I've never really seen in recent years. President Trump basically promised the opposite of this. He would stay out of foreign wars and we would have so much winning. Instead, he has gotten us into foreign wars and we have so much losing. It is an absolute disgrace. And it's one that, you know, I'm very sure the voters will punish him for in November. Here was Joe Rogan on this very issue. This war is not something anybody that's conservative wanted. Most people are horrified by the idea because Trump was elected. one of the pillars that he stood for, apparently, was that he doesn't want any more wars.

6:20Tara? Yeah, well, we know from reporting that inside of the White House, whenever Joe Rogan comes down on Donald Trump, this is a serious condemnation for them. And they are constantly trying to back channel to him, to control him on messaging. But this is a man who really can't be controlled, right? He's never been that type of person. But, you know, it's interesting that President Trump would follow the lead of Israel. They said to Trump, this is easy. The Shah is weakened right now. He just had an uprising. But if anything, they misinterpreted it. First of all, this is a country of 90 million people.

7:01This is not Venezuela with 30 million people, right? This is a massive country with a huge terrain and a relentless leader. And he had just actually quashed this rebellion brutally, but he had quashed it. It had shown that he had strength. And so they thought they were going to go in there and topple Iran like it was Venezuela. And it's not what happened. And if anything, he may end up leaving his presidency with Iran exactly where it is right now. And Che, I mentioned all of the other assorted domestic problems, including this sort of lack of transparency on a lot of things going on with Donald Trump.

7:37This is by no means a normal second term. There's no honesty or transparency about what he's doing, about his self-enrichment, about his medical situation, which is something, of course, he and many people hammered Joe Biden on, understandably so. One example, and again, I'm not a doctor, but it's something where they haven't actually been very transparent. So we We only have what dribbles out is the independent reporting on what was seen at NATO, which is Trump's sort of bruised hand in this sort of cover, whether it's what looks like possibly makeup or some other sort of thin coverage. And they report the recurring discoloration, which the White House says is a symptom from handshaking, although it's on the back of the hand, has become the subject of persistent scrutiny.

8:23And again, Che, with all due responsibility that we might exercise, which Donald Trump doesn't provide in his role, per se, does it raise larger questions about whether they're being honest about everything from his finances to his health as a public official? It's a public issue. It certainly is. And, you know, I think that what Trump has introduced into the body politic, which we are now seeing played out with this Mitch McConnell story as well, where we have a lack of transparency about his health and what is going on with his hospitalization, is we are going backwards as a society in terms of public officials being transparent about their health.

9:01And I'll be honest, as a Democrat, you know, Dianne Feinstein, that was a situation where there was a complete lack of transparency about her health. She was a sitting senator. She had signed away power of attorney to her daughter. And yet she was still responsible for taking votes in the Senate. That was not a particularly transparent situation. But this lack of transparency about health has really taken hold and something that Donald Trump really had introduced into the political system, really, I think, for ill. And Tara, we also want to— And also Mitch McConnell. Well, let me get you one question and take you on both.

9:40So hit me on McConnell. But I also wanted you to weigh in on what you're seeing on the Epstein issue. I mentioned some of that brewing. So give us give us your thoughts on both. Yeah, I was just going to say, I mean, in the same vein as Dianne Feinstein, Mitch McConnell has been missing since June 9th with no updates from his office. We don't know what's happened. It's been June 14th. It's been 25 days. and there are a number of major bills that are about to come before the Senate, like the housing bill that passed bipartisanly in the House. And where is he right now? We know there's a deadline for a special election coming up in August.

10:16I think there are a lot of questions about this and why so many of these leaders decide they want to stay into these roles until the end of their lives instead of passing the baton on. I mean, clearly there needs to be some sort of term limits. Now, as for the Epstein story, I'm so glad to hear from members of Congress like Melanie Sandsbury and House over ranking member Congressman Garcia that they see the Epstein story as the Watergate of our time because it is. And they're taking it seriously. And Garcia said he will bring back the people who have already testified because they didn't actually testify.

10:54They were just interviewed. They weren't under oath. And he said he'll bring them back. So that's encouraging. But they're moving at a really, really slow pace. And I don't think they can only bring back Bondi, Pam Bondi and Kash Patel. I think they need to bring back, you know, Bill Gates, Leslie Groff, Sarah Kellen, Bill Clinton. They need to bring everyone back and redo this whole thing again. But I'm encouraged to hear that it's not over yet. And we'll see what happens when Leon Black comes. I mean, he's been subpoenaed. Next week, he'll be back in Congress. And maybe this time it'll be under oath.

11:28I'm hopeful. And Jay, politically, how do you view that with what the Democrats are planning? Because people remember once there was the so-called blue wave in 18 and the Democrats came in, it really shifted the whole tenor of Trump's first term. I mean, this was someone who had his, you know, surprise win and pushed the envelope as he has certainly this term. But after those midterms, you saw the investigations ramp up, you saw the impeachment, and then ultimately you had the onboarding of what was a decisive loss for Trump, which, as I mentioned, a judge just rejected his efforts to relitigate aspects of that six years later.

12:04Do you see that echo or do you think Democrats have to be more kind of cautious about assuming that they can repeat those plays on the investigative front? No, I think that they can completely repeat that. And they can if they can get this get hold of the Senate, which is something that they did not have in 2019, 2020. And I think that's a really big difference. I think when you have only the House doing this, you know, it's very limited what Democrats can really do in terms of that oversight capacity. But when you have two chambers in play, able to conduct these investigations, able to push that message, that will really, I think, bring an end.

12:46You know, I'm going to say rather optimistically to what we would call the Trump era in American politics. And 2028 would then be the beginning of a kind of a new era in American politics. Now, whether that's Democrat or Republican, way too soon to tell. But I do think if we can win the Senate, I think the nature, our ability to change the narrative, the momentum and shift the vibe of the country is enormous. Well, and Jay, as you know, no one has ever counted out Donald Trump too early. No one's ever made that mistake in American life, media, politics. I jest a tiny bit. Thanks to both of our guests on a bunch of issues.

13:21I appreciate you guys. Coming up, we turn to a very serious story. That father shot dead by ICE. You think about when ICE kills people in situations that have often been documented as avoidable deaths, possible crimes. Renee Good, Minnesota, we are back in that situation, according to many, and we have that update for you. Also, the focus on what Chaywis is talking about, whether Democrats can take a lead in the Senate, including in ruby red Texas. How did it get so close there? Why are Democrats so excited about that? We have a special guest from that state. So we're going to get the on the ground details tonight.

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15:58No one knows what will actually happen in the future midterms because it depends on you and the voters and what people do. But we are getting indicators that are pretty striking. Texas, which is a ruby red, very pro-Trump state, is closer than it's ever been in the modern era for Democrats to take back, which means even if they don't ultimately win this Texas race, there is a lot of indicators there about how rough the Republicans are doing. The Democratic push to flip the Senate basically boils down to these six states. You see Texas at the bottom. In Maine, Dems are looking for a new candidate to replace the scandal-plagued Graham Plattner, but some Democrats say this actually is a blessing to get it figured out in advance of the deadlines and they can put someone stronger in.

16:44So there's been a lot of attention, as you've probably noticed, on that state this week. But we're turning to Texas, where Democrat James Tallarico is going up against what many in the party, in the GOP, see as a big Trump mistake, ousting a relatively established incumbent senator who's won Senate races there before and putting in this Trumpy Republican Attorney General candidate, Ken Paxton. That has tightened what was already a tightening race. Look at this. Today, according to the reputable New York Times poll, they are tied within the margin of error, which means, if you believe that poll, it's anyone's race.

17:21A lot closer than we usually see between the parties there. Both campaigns also had to put out their fundraising numbers, and look at that. The excitement for the Democrat dwarfing Paxton's struggle, having been in a kind kind of costly and divided Republican civil war. He's got Trump's backing, but he doesn't have Trump's money yet. Paxton comes into this race with many scandals, and those have become attack ads from Republicans even during that civil war primary I mentioned. Crooked Ken Paxton cheated on his wife. She's divorcing him on biblical grounds. So now Paxton's wrecking another home, sleeping around with a married mother of seven.

18:02Why does Ken Paxton go easy on child predators? A Waco attorney, Adam Hoffman, sexually abused a child for three years, and Paxton gutted the case, offering him just a slap on the wrist. Those are the ads that Texas Republicans and other voters have already been hearing about. And, if they have a long memory, Paxton was previously impeached by Republicans for alleged corruption. We should note he was acquitted by the Texas Senate. But for all the narratives we hear about everything being super partisan, this is a reminder that at least at the state level, there were some Republicans trying to hold this other Republican accountable for alleged corruption.

18:41He was also criminally indicted for fraud, charges that were later dismissed. Again, he is legally presumed innocent and was not convicted in those cases. But the question of whether you think he should get a promotion to write new laws and be a powerful person is a very different standard than him escaping criminal conviction. Paxton has a new controversy this week. He may have broken an election law that he had promised to enforce using this address where apparently, allegedly, he did not live while repeatedly voting. For his part, Paxton says he did follow the relevant law. Tallarico has been hammering Paxton on this.

19:17The strategy has focused on the other side of questioning the Democrats' masculinity, a kind of attack the Wall Street Journal notes that we've heard before. Whether it works in a down economy with this kind of alternative is an open question. Now, Democrats have long talked about flipping Texas and never done it. But the story we're telling you tonight is not just about whether or not they get over the line. It is a story about Donald Trump dragging down the Republican Party, interfering in a way that put in a less viable candidate. That's the Trump effect. And if you are spending money and energy to defend a red seat you're supposed to win in Texas, how much worse is it for Republicans on defense in the rest of the country?

20:02We have two special guests on this, including a reporter in Texas when we come back.

20:13They claim the AG used secret email accounts, burner phones, and a fake Uber account to see his mistress. Paxton is a repugnant character. He's always been on the edge of sort of criminal activity. Three felony fraud charges which have lingered for nine long years. And in between it all, the state's top attorney had a mugshot. There are calls for Ken Paxton to step down. James Tallarico is a hypocrite when it comes to fighting for families. Tallarico wants to teach trans ideology in schools and let boys compete in girls sports. Tallarico says it's immoral to use the oil and gas that employs millions of Texans.

20:50That's what Texas voters are already seeing in the clash between these two folks who want to be the senator from Texas. A much closer race than usual. Democrats feeling optimistic. As promised, we're bringing in Jeremy Wallace, political reporter for the Houston Chronicle, who's been closely watching all of this and Obama campaign vet Che Comanduri. Jeremy, is it closer than usual? And what are you seeing on the ground that we might not notice nationally? Yeah, it's closer than usual on a couple of fronts here. Look, we've had some close polling before with Beto O 'Rourke when he ran in 2018 and even Colin Allred in 2024.

21:26There were close poll numbers. But when you dig into the poll numbers, both in that New York Times poll and a University of Texas poll that has also come out recently. You see the reason this is so competitive. Ken Paxson is just losing independence like crazy. I've never seen numbers this low with independence. He's at 12 percent with independence. Understand that even Ted Cruz in his worst moments was never under 20 percent. Ken Paxson has a two front war he has to deal with. One, he's trying to figure out how do you bring back those Republicans who did not vote for him and voted for John Cornyn and have always had a problem with him, right?

22:05You heard it in those clips before. He has a lot of Republican repair work to do. So he has one front there. And then he has to fight this other front war with independents who clearly don't like what they've seen from him. And they like Tallarico. Tallarico is hovering around 40 % with independents, which is better than Beto O 'Rourke or Colin Allred were at the same point back in their campaigns when we were going into the heat of summer, going into the midterm cycles. You're deep in the polling and what they call the crosstabs, and I know that gets Che excited because he's a huge campaign nerd, and they love that kind of stuff, you know?

22:42It's like candy to them. Jeremy, before I bring Che in, you can see how excited he looks. I mean, we know him. He's excited. Jeremy, before I bring him in, you mentioned that rough number with independents. Is that something that Paxton, you think, can still change because he's now in a different light? Or given so much voltage and controversy around his history, is it baked in? Yeah, it's partly baked in and partly because of President Trump, right? You know, with this war going on and these gas prices starting to creep up again, it's like that was the worst and the last thing that Ken Paxton needed.

23:18Like he needed that trend line to keep going so maybe people wouldn't be upset about that. he's now got to figure out how do I get, you know, Republicans excited about me. Remember, there's not much else on the ballot here in Texas that's going to be driving the electorate there. You know, the governor has his race, you know, and he's going to be doing his work. But he's in a different situation than Ken Paxton. Paxton's on his own. He needs to get out there and start, you know, trying to define who he is and try to present a better message. But here the thing is, he has no money. Like you pointed in the fundraising.

23:49I've never, you're going to understand, that$70 million that James Tallarica has raised so far is historic from a Texas perspective. That is twice the amount of money that Colin Allred or Beto O 'Rourke had at the same point in July going into the election cycle. Twice as much. He's going to have much more money to make the case of who he is while Ken Paxson's still struggling to raise the money to even counter him. That's why you see right now the airways are almost all James Tallarico here in Texas right now. He's run like probably 2 ,000 ads, you know, just in the last month. And there's nothing on the air from Ken Paxton.

24:29It's like you can see it's a lopsided advantage right now for Tallarico to make the case of who he is before the Republicans or Ken Paxton do it, which was always the downfall of both Colin Allred and Beto O 'Rourke. They let their opponents, Ted Cruz in both cases, define them before they could get out the chute. But here you have James Tallarico dropping three million dollars just in June to start making that identification with those independent voters before Ken Paxson can even wake up or get back in the back in the states from his vacation overseas. Jay? Yeah, I think we talked in the last segment about there being the end of the Trump era with us winning the Senate, with Democrats winning the Senate, with a national vibe shift, a national paradigm shift.

25:16If that occurred, nothing would signify that more than a James Tallarico victory in the Texas Senate. James Tallarico is the complete opposite of Donald Trump and Ken Paxton. He's young. He is vibrant. He is somebody who speaks about his religious faith, speaks about his personal piety and his personal religious journey. That is extremely, I got to think, very compelling and very different than anything we've ever heard about from Democrats in recent years. I mean, Democrats have been seen as largely very secular. And I think we should also remember that both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama talked openly about their faith.

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25:58Both of them attended church. Both of them talked about their connection to their religious beliefs. And I think James Tallarico is part of a tradition, a Democratic tradition, that certainly also includes Jimmy Carter, that we just haven't seen in national politics in quite a while. A Democrat of faith talking openly about their faith in a big battleground state. Well, and Che, to that point, I mean, it's also risky for Democrats who want to win in Texas to avoid faith because they're going to need some prayers answered to win back Texas. That was, Jeremy, I'm sorry, you're not on the show often.

26:35We do sometimes really bad jokes, like they're just, they shouldn't have been told, but it's live. We can't get rid of them. The final word goes to you, Jeremy, on this larger point of Tallarico's introducing himself. And he was on Rogan. He was on Colbert. He, as Che just reminded everyone, is totally offering a different mood. Has he done enough, in your view, to be his own person rather than a generic Dem? Generic Dems lose in Texas. The short answer is no. I don't think he's gotten there yet. He's got a lot of work to do, particularly in Houston and in Dallas within the black community. Look, you know, it's like he was losing some of those precincts that I'm most familiar with in Houston in those heavily black community.

27:24He was losing him nine to 90 percent to 10 to Jasmine Crockett. He's got to somehow get those folks excited about him. So he has a real problem there that he still hasn't fully addressed yet. And he's got work to do there. Secondly, look, you know, let's tie Maine into this, too, since you brought it up. You think that Maine and Texas are the two states that Democrats need to win to flip. You're talking 1988, the last time these two states both had a Democratic senator coming out of it. It's like that is a lot of history to kind of overcome. There's a reason why they've been in the wilderness in Texas for so long.

28:02And so Tallarico has this huge financial advantage. but now the question is, do you use that money wisely? It's like just having a lot of money isn't enough. You're going to have to use it wisely. How do you reach those voters in the middle? How do you reach those fake voters that we're talking about here? It's like, how do you reach them in a way that's different? You can't just do a TV bombardment like Colin Allred did and hope that you're going to come into a victory. It's like, so Puerto Rico's got a lot of work to do and this is still a big time jump ball here in the state of Texas. Yeah, I got a fin and break here at the half hour, But Jeremy, I'm sure you're going to be busy, especially with national attention on this.

28:38We'll, I'm sure, be coming back to you. Jeremy Walls, thank you, Che. On more than one topic, thanks a lot. MAGA is big mad as Bad Bunny's halftime show is being embraced by the Emmys. But next, we turn to a very serious story that I told you matters. The outrage against ICE. Allegations of excessive use of force in another lethal interaction. We have that and a lot more coming up.

29:07Turning to a story out of Texas The family of a man fatally shot by ICE this week Calling for an independent inquiry Lorenzo Salgado Arajo Pictured here was killed by an immigration enforcement agent During a traffic stop This was Tuesday Now he had been in the United States for over three decades He was a father of three He was also undocumented His son learned of his death after seeing A video of his father being killed on social media Here is what he said during an understandably quite emotional press conference. I saw a video posted on Facebook that he had been shot. I recognized him immediately.

29:48Not from his appearance, but from his voice, crying for help as he lay on the street, bleeding out. the video that was posted also features some of basically the time right after the incident dhs states that an officer was firing in claimed self-defense because there was a refusal to comply and in a concerningly familiar allegation which we have to fact check and look into of course but it's a defense we've seen in other killings they say that this individual was trying to run over the ICE agent with his vehicle. The son denies the allegations. His father is dead, so we don't have his statement, as is often the case with these alleged government brutality incidents.

30:32He was pursued, though, by two unmarked vehicles. The son says his father would have stopped and complied if they had any kind of ICE identification, and the notation that he also has no criminal record, which means it seems like a bigger allegation that someone would go from no history of violence from being a peaceful father in his community to trying to kill a federal agent with his car. We're seeing protests in Houston, the family demanding answers, federal officials again using the Trump playbook of trying to avoid accountability by avoiding a local probe. The deportation agenda, we should note more broadly, is opposed in America.

31:08Politico says one year in, It's on the ropes. ICE policies also losing in federal court thousands of times. And we're told we're a 50-50 country, but it's 58 % of Americans who say they now oppose deporting all immigrants illegally here back to their countries. That is a shift we should note, partly because of the aggressiveness of these tactics. Some of those positions were different in 2024. As I told you, it's an important story and we will stay on it. When we come back, I'm going to turn to this ongoing affordability crisis and a way you can sometimes spot these big issues like high price outrage on the pop charts before they're even in our politics.

31:56This affordability crisis is only deepening. We have surveys that show the vast majority of Americans see this as a crisis, even if they're not personally in it. About half of Americans say they now struggle to afford the basics like groceries and gas. Housing foreclosures, did you hear this, just hit a seven-year high this week. And while Republicans who control Congress and the White House are doing little about it, Trump's war, if anything, has of course spiked gas prices, the signs that people are struggling are now all over our culture and our discourse. You go online, there are memes about living on the financial edge, not sure if I have extra money or I forgot to pay a bill.

32:34Relatable. And then there are artists who came up from poverty trying to meet people where they are in this economy. Bronx artist Cardi B showed, frankly, a lot more awareness than many D.C. politicians when she recently was mixing her album promotion with a direct acknowledgement that many people and her fans can't afford necessities today. She told folks in a video that rents too expensive, questioning how a one-bedroom in her native Bronx goes for$1 ,500, adding, I'm so sorry for asking y 'all to buy my album. Pretty aware. And in a materialist culture that often pushes people to just spend more, her newest line of hair products are all listed for under $20.

33:12She says you can still get quality products that shouldn't be out of reach for everyday shoppers. So yes, she's an entrepreneur in business, but she's also trying to meet people where they really are in this crisis. Now there's other recent hits that channel the familiar struggles of what it means to just get by. Take Shibuzzi's remake of A Bar Song, which I will remind you, hit number one on the charts during the 2024 campaign as Americans were recoiling from rising prices. Shibuzzi updated the original song's lyrics to recount a woman wanting a very pricey designer bag while he was stuck worrying about gas and grocery prices.

33:55all night long. Gasoline and groceries, the list goes on and on. It's nine to five ain't working. Why the hell do I work so hard? It was catchy, but people were also feeling it. It was a leading indicator that folks were fed up with that Biden era inflation, just as they're mad at Trump gas prices today. As we've said around here, culture can often channel the general public faster than our sclerotic, broken political institutions. You might not find every public policy solution on the radio, but an eye on the charts can definitely keep you tapped into what's on people's minds from Dylan to Cardi.

34:39And that brings us to a journalist who's very tapped in right now, Brian B. Miller, a veteran of MTV and Complex, a music writer who just published his top artists of 2026. As you said, opinions from total strangers take you out of your ways. Does that still bother you at this point in your career? Depends on what narrative we're talking about. Does it feel like it's been 16 years? Not at all. Not for me, anyway. I mean, I don't know where the time went. You do not want to be in high school with a hit record. It's too much power for one man to have. Being in a high-profile relationship and, you know, making sure everything looks good in public, but, you know, when doors get closed...

35:20Nah, it's just life. We are now joined by Brian V. Miller back on the beat. Welcome. Feels good to be back, Ari. Good to have me. Good to have you. Thank you. Appreciate it. We'll get into your list, but how about that? Cardi B seems more in touch than a lot of politicians. She's kind of saying, yeah, I get it. It's hard out here right now. Yeah, she's right, man. It is hard out here. I thought groceries was the magic word. Got me. But yeah, she's right. You know, it's hard out here. And I think she does, you know, have this sort of this remorse for for her fans having to buy her album at this point.

35:54But, you know, she's doing the best she can and helping out everybody. Yeah. And a lot of artists are aspirational. So there's such an emphasis on the next step and making it. Exactly. And then some say, OK, I'm all in that fashion, you know, Paris vibe. But others seem to be saying, no, I get it. Like they see who's coming to their shows and they're still in that interactive mode. I think that's part of Cardi B's appeal is that she is down to earth. She seems like a round-of-way girl. I think that's why a lot of people can relate to her and like her. She's a real affable kind of person. An LL Cool J reference.

36:23There you go. Look at you. We didn't know you were so old school. I thought you were new school. I'm so old school on it. Yeah. Your list gets people talking. Yes. Some people do these annual lists. You do it at the half-year mark. Yes. Let's look at your top three rappers of this year. The best ones. Yeah. Yeah. Explain it, and we'll put it up. There we go. So we have Drake at number one. I think Drake so far is the best rapper on the planet. He dropped his new album, Iceman. And it's kind of like his comeback. Don't call it a comeback, maybe. There you go. And he's just been killing it right now.

36:56It's one of the best albums of the year. T.I., another one, he has his new album. It's called Kill the King. And it's supposedly his last and final album. But, you know, rappers never retire. No, they don't. But I'm old enough to remember Ho's retirement. We'll get to that. We'll get to that in a minute. But, yeah, T.I., he's killing it, too. I love his singles. I love the freestyles that he's put out throughout the year. And he's doing his thing. And then, of course, J. Cole, he kicked off the year with his birthday Blizzard mixtape that was free, available online. And he has his album as well, The Fall Off.

37:27Yeah. Let's go back to I'm going to go back to top three. We'll go back to the first slide, because if you're right and some people say you're not, you get people talking. Yeah. then your list suggests that the battle's really over. Because you got two of the top three slots with people who were basically in that Kendrick battle or Cole bowed out. Yes. I do think the battle is over and the grass is greener on the other side. I think Drake has weathered a storm. And I think Iceman is an indication and reflection of that. You know, he has songs like Whisper My Name, National Treasure, Dust, Janice, S-T-U-F-U, S-T-F-U.

38:05So, yeah, I think he's a... When you mentioned Janice. Yes. I cannot confirm or deny whether in the MS newsroom today there was a cup of green tea being used as a dad joke prop in a Drake discourse. I can't... You can't confirm or deny. I can't. But it's a hint the way I said it. Absolutely, man. So I just think, you know, Drake is... I think he's back. I think the boy's back on top. All right, let's go to your next folks. Freddie. Freddie Gibbs. Not a national name. Tell us about these next three. Yeah, Freddie Gibbs is one of the best rappers right now in the game. He has his new EP, RBT. He also has his album is the deluxe version of Only Die Once.

38:46And he's been littered with a couple of guest features throughout the year as well. Big Boss Rabbit. Big Boss Rabbit. Okay. Then we have the very controversial yay. For folks who despise his politics, his use of his platform, his sowing of hate and anti-Semitism, let's explain, because we're objective in the news, explain why he still has people coming to his concerts for his music, perhaps not for his very regrettable views. I think for that very reason, the music, you know, music has always been a panacea, you know, for wrongdoing. People tend to get amnesia if you have a hit record. The hit record seems to be the problem solver.

39:23But, you know, this new album, Bully, it feels like he's on his road to redemption with this project. And it's really good, you know, for it. Musically. Musically, of course. So if we have a viewer watching who says, well, this seems like they're going to a hate rally. When you fill SoFi Stadium in a liberal city... it's probably not everyone endorsing his politics. Absolutely not. I think a lot of people repudiate what Kanye stood for and maybe still stands for, but at the end of the day, I think people just care about the music. Now, me, I love a throwback. Yes. This is of 26. This is not of all time.

39:55No, this is just for the... And you put Juvenile... Juvenile! ...back on top, explain. Yes, Juvenile from the Cash Money days. Respect. Yes, absolutely. Well, I think about Juvenile. He has this new album called Boiling Point. And, you know, look, the old dog still got some tricks in him. He has a gold single right now with Megan Thee Stallion called BBB, and he's just been impressive throughout the whole project. So I recommend that. Which name on your list has gotten the most criticism? Because people criticize your list. Oh, man, the most criticism. You know, they hate the boy. They hate the Canadian Drake.

40:25They hate him. So I think that probably might be the most criticism I've received. Do they think you're compromised? I can't. Maybe. Maybe I am. Maybe I'm not. You know, there's been so much going on in New York City. The Knicks, obviously. Jay-Z's marking this 30th anniversary, sold out Yankee Stadium three times over, and just did his first kind of performance in years. We're playing this now for the first time, so our viewers are going to see this for the first time probably, which is acapella. Sometimes rappers kind of flex and demonstrate their abilities because there's very little going on in the background.

40:57And this was what they call a freestyler of verse, where he was addressing his critics, talking about a range of issues. This was in Philadelphia with The Roots. People know them from The Jimmy Fallon Show. Tonight's show, let's take a look Yep I'm the one who's strong in pain That hill you can die on It's way too much flat That comes from those wings I'm killing them softly With something still don't need to be explained The world can't be my eye I got magam Republicans Them shots came from the very top of the government Good luck with them I'm governed by God You're trying to break the government I've been for 40 days My neck get flooded again Wrists get flooded again You brought a chart, champ.

41:37You got to look up a kid. Look up the hole. I never looked up to them. I'll just remember. Even when the trees pretend. Not to punch on my name. Don't forget who I am. I was there for that. I'm happy to say I was too, Washington. The roots remember. Yes. What's he talking about? It's kind of a play on words. You know, the roots are the band. They were there when he first got his start. And, you know, at the end of the day, no matter how tall a tree grows, the roots are always going to remain the same. So, you know, you are who you are. You can't change that. You're getting very close to saying it.

42:18You can change, but that's just the top layer. Aubrey, you got me. He was who you was when you got here. What does it mean to see him in full control and giving us new ideas and thoughts there where he was addressing a lot of criticism? Yeah, and, you know, whenever Jay-Z speaks, all eyes on him, you know, and we're anticipating new music from him. It's always a stream of consciousness whenever Jay-Z speaks. So, you know, it was always great to hear him. He doesn't do too many interviews. He doesn't do too much press. So, you know, he gets his point across through the music. He speaks still through his art.

42:50Absolutely. Yeah. And there he seemed genuinely outraged that various people would put dirt on his name with everything he's achieved and the level that he's at. Kind of like, as he said at the end, don't forget who I am. Of course, don't forget who I am. You know, at the end of the day, Jay-Z is still Jay-Z and his name means a lot, you know, so he's going to stand by it. A lot of New Yorkers filling up Yankee Stadium. 20 seconds. Do you got any predictions for the shows? Man, I think Eminem is going to come through night two for the Blueprint Renegade. I think we'll get that performance. I think we're going to see the return of Foxy Brown, Sauce Money, of course, Memphis Bleak for Coming of age and going to have some surprise guesses maybe on night three.

43:30I can't wait. Respect. And Memphis Bleak is supposed to pop by the beat soon. You got Bleak. Early update. Brian, always great to see you. Respect what you do on your platform. We love hearing from you. We will be right back. Yep.

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